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Friday Pebble Report: Buster Posey can't hit Greg Smith's 88 mph FB, Joe Table's nephew putting on the hits with Casper,

Colorado Springs: L 6-7

I guess the thing to look at in last night's box score was the work of the MLB experienced pitchers that may help the Rockies later. Greg Smith had a decent start, Jason Hirsh struggled in his second relief appearance of the season, and Ryan Speier pitched well. Smith's performance along with that of Brandon Hynick with the Sky Sox thus far is decent to keep in the back of your head in case an injury bug hits our rotation. These guys aren't going to meet the level of our current starters at their best, but they aren't going to damage us terribly at the bottom end. The other good news from this game was despite the loss, our pitchers made Buster Posey look bad in his AAA debut:

Fresno Top 1st

Buster Posey grounds out like a weak four year old girl, shortstop Mike McCoy to first baseman Edwin Bellorin.

Fresno Top 4th

Buster Posey grounds out, third baseman Kenny Perez to first baseman Edwin Bellorin and starts crying. Buster Posey moves to time out on the play.

Fresno Top 6th

Buster Posey out on a sacrifice fly to right fielder Daniel Ortmeier. Eugenio Velez scores. Buster Posey given lollipop and pat on head by Grizzlies manager.

Fresno Top 8th

Buster Posey grounds out, shortstop Mike McCoy to first baseman Edwin Bellorin. Right side of Sky Sox infield gets jealous.

Fresno Top 10th

Buster Posey merely flies out to center fielder Chris Frey in Colorado Springs, where even Kenny Perez can hit dingerz.

Well, that's how I read it anyway. Demoralizing the enemy at the minor league level probably doesn't help us win the wild card, but it makes me feel happy.

Tulsa: Postponed

Modesto: W 3-1

Connor Graham continues to be just good enough to be a legit prospect right outside the elites of the Rockies system, but not good enough to get into that next level. At this point given his age, his stuff and the starting depth that the Rockies already have, I have to think his role with the MLB team in two or three seasons will be in relief, and he's going to be good at it.

Charlie Blackmon had three hits and a walk to once again lead the Nuts offense. Rhadames Nazario also pitched in two hits.

Asheville: L 2-7

Kiel Roling had two hits including a double and Tyler Massey also had a pair of hits. Ethan Hollingsworth had one of his least efficient starts of the season, but still managed to put up some pretty impressive numbers, striking out ten while walking two. He gave up three runs on seven hits in five and two thirds innings.

Tri-City: W 3-2

Rod Scurry got one of those wins that detractors of the stat point to as a reason it's fundamentally flawed, as Scurry gave up the most runs of any Dust Devil pitcher to throw last night (2), in the least amount of time (one third of an inning), but because the offense rallied to save his tail in the next inning, he got the W rather than Sheng An Kuo, who allowed zero runs in five and two thirds or one of the other relievers. Speaking of those other relievers, we haven't talked about Kyle Walker much this season, but he is showing some nascent lefty specialist skills. Walker threw 1.2 innings last night in the win. On offense, Ben Paulsen, Orlando Sandoval and Jeremiah Sammy each had two hits.

Casper: W 8-1

Eliezer Mesa had a 4 for 5 night for the Ghosts, he has ten hits in his last four games and is now seven hits ahead of Angelys Nina for tops on the team. Trying to figure out how Mesa measures as a prospect, if at all, is kind of difficult. The obvious cons:

  1. He's repeating the level
  2. He doesn't walk
  3. He doesn't hit for power (4 out of 27 hits for extra bases in an easy power environment)
  4. He doesn't steal enough for a speedster
  5. When he signed, we were told he may wind up in a corner, which makes cons one through four worse.

Honestly, this should be enough to write him off, and it's why we don't really talk about him much in our Pebble Reports. However, it's not quite that simple as there are reasons not to totally dismiss him just yet.

The pros:

  1. Still at least somewhat young (21 in November)
  2. Pro bloodlines. Don't discount this as an X-factor as a familial professional resource has helped several otherwise midgrade prospects hone their skills to the point that they actually deserved MLB jobs. EY2 would be a prime example.
  3. He gets hits. Contact is king at the lower levels and Mesa isn't striking out very much, particularly lately. If you subscribe to the theory that power develops late, why not keep him around and see what happens?
  4. He's playing center field right now and playing it pretty decently.

Chances are he stays what he is as another decent average, no power outfielder that will have difficulty cracking a AAA squad let alone an MLB team. There's little chance he cracks our top 30 prospect list anytime soon, but that doesn't mean we're completely ignoring him. Mesa's in a look but don't touch phase of development, still just an egg.

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It cracks me up the level that you and others follow our farm

I’ll say “tell me about [Pitcher/Player XX]” and you say “well he has [various tools related to his position] but nothing else really developing. He shows [detail] from [arm slot/stance/swing] and at his age he compares [adverb] to other prospects at [level, league, organization, postion]”

And I say “Wow, that’s awesome! How long until he’ supplanting [whipping boy]”

And you say “Oh, I’d be surprised if he cracks the majors”

and then I get perplexed and wonder why we care so much about kids who won’t help the big club.

But that’s why we’re giant nerds.

Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 17, 2009 10:25 AM MDT reply actions  

Or why

we need to be humble when predicting and projecting.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Jul 17, 2009 10:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I meant it more to be kind of admiration for the level of attention put forth

Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 17, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

As with most giant nerd hobbies, I'm sure it's very amusing to the outside, but I find it fascinating

I mean, by and large these stories don’t pan out, but every now and then when you have a player like Esmil Rogers, for instance who you can follow from these very raw stages through their development into solid players, it’s pretty rewarding. I mean, I’m sure it’s much more rewarding for the players themselves and the scouts that found them, but like following professional sports in the first place, we’re just leeching onto the success of these players and drawing inspiration from them. It’s good to see the players that beat the odds and make it anyway, and that’s what I really love about this.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

rogers still needs to eat

That is, if thw program was correct in Tucson. Still listed as 6’1" 145

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 17, 2009 1:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

They're definitely using the old data...

He has put on some pounds since he first came over.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Heck

The Rockies still list Fowler at 6’4", 185, which, if he really put on ~18 pounds this offseason means he was bulking up from 167.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 17, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great to hear good things about Kyle Walker. Him being from my hometown and all.....

Now lets hope he’s one of those players who continues to develop. Heaven knows we could use players with “nascent lefty specialist skills”. Not making fun here, just thought it was a better description that normally read in most blogs. Good job.

"I've had pretty good success with Stan Musial by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine

by pedalpusher on Jul 17, 2009 12:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Eliezer Mesa

He related to Jose Mesa or something?

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 17, 2009 1:32 PM MDT reply actions  

I was going to say something snarky...

But I want to save that for the Giants and their fans. As the title to the post indicates, Eliezer is Jose’s nephew.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2009 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oops.

I should read the titles to these posts sometimes.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 17, 2009 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

i read it and still didnt get it

I was thinking “what kind of name is Joe table?” I’m slow today’s

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 17, 2009 1:55 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rox Girl,

It will be lovely to see Posey exact his revenge on your comment, year, after coming year.

I wonder what will sign Matzek for sandwich level talent will be drafted with next year’s compensation pick:)

Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball

"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson

by haverecords on Jul 17, 2009 1:57 PM MDT reply actions  

It will be lovely

to see Matzek present young Gerald with the golden sombrero in the former’s major league debut.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 17, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

see type good to you and sentence construct

Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 17, 2009 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh..., oh dear, I guess I didn't realize how much this would offend you..,

Poor poor Giants fans. Poor-poor-poor-poor-poor-poor and sad little Giants fans. Here, maybe this will cheer you up

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2009 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

It did me

Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!

by Redhawk on Jul 17, 2009 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Your putting down of division rival prospects amuses me.

Please continue in this vein in the future.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jul 17, 2009 3:07 PM MDT reply actions  

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