BtB - Jason Hammel finds control with Rockies

Tommy Rancel writes that Jason Hammel's success with the Rockies looks legit right now.

over 2 years ago Rox Girl 10 comments 0 recs |

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I had recently noticed his drastically better BB/9 rate

Hopefully he has indeed found control rather than just finding a temporary groove with his control. A couple bad starts could derail that via lower confidence. Still it’s good to see the fancy peripherals point to legit success thus far, though watching him, I’m not the least bit surprised.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 2, 2009 4:38 PM MDT reply actions

Homer-friendly Coors Field?

Just me or do other teams players labour under so heavy a home park burden? Do Texas or Philly pitchers come with similar caveats? Anybody looked at Brad Hawpe’s home/road HR splits? Ahhh, probably just me – go Hammel!

by Since1993 on Jul 3, 2009 12:10 AM MDT reply actions

New Yankee Stadium, maybe?

I swear, if they don’t start dinging Yank Me field players for the same stuff they’ve been downrating Rockies for for the last 17 years, the sports media have no integrity remaining…

by Chrysicat on Jul 3, 2009 2:10 AM MDT up reply actions

They will if...

the Yankees players put up inflated numbers year after year like the pre-humidor Rockies have.

Pre-humidor Coors was insane. 120+ park factors?

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 3, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions

If you use ESPN's Park Factor

Coors is only 13th in HR, actually even beat out by “Land Shark Stadium” in Miami, among others. Still doesn’t change Hammels home/road splits

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 3, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions

ESPN uses 1 yr factors, right?

That makes a difference. Statcorner lists the park factor on HR/FB rates at 121.6. Presumably they’re using a 3 yr park factor. (I don’t know how that ranks.)

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 3, 2009 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions

O'Dowd gets some credit on this

Dealin’ Dan makes a good whipping boy for many things, but Hammel for Aneury Rodriguez (who’s had a very mediocre year in AA with the Montgomery Biscuits) is a great trade.

Let’s hope Alberto Alburquerque works out as well.

No records in the last 10 years should count.

by Maris6161 on Jul 3, 2009 6:34 AM MDT reply actions

I was one of those that was not on board w/ the Rodriguez-Hammel trade

and so far I have to eat crow, which I’m happy to do. Rodriguez has not been very good in AA, but if you look at his last 10 starts, he has had 2 really bad starts, but the other 8 he has given up 3 runs or less. I still think he might be pretty good. The other reason I feel good about this trade, is how good the other 5 starters have been at Tulsa. I know you can never have too much pitching, but how can it get any better than a rotation of Chacin, Rogers, Deduno, Roe, and Weiser. Weiser has been inconsistent for the last month or so, but thats still quite a rotation. So I think the combination of Hammel being so good and Tulsa’s rotation not missing him much has been a major victory for O’Dowd at this point.

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

by smokinRox on Jul 3, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions

I think Rodriguez is going to be fine,

But I still say that his ceiling is what Jason Hammel is, and I think the big issue that you and others (including most Rays fans from what I could tell) were having was that it was hard to wrap around the thought that Hammel himself hadn’t peaked yet. We like to put player development in this neat box where everything builds to an age 27 season and declines from there, but that’s just the cumulative effect, individuals are on different clocks.

by Rox Girl on Jul 3, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions

especially pitchers

I think it’s a safer bet to downgrade a position player if he’s 27 and hasn’t produced, and isn’t thought of being particularly toolsy. But a pitcher could finally master that extra pitch and be off like a 30 yr old Mike Scott.

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 3, 2009 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions