Rockies 4, Diamondbacks 3: Todd Helton hits game-winning homer and 500th double to take two of three
by Russ Oates on Jul 22, 2009 3:54 PM MDT
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PrintTodd Helton became the 50th player to hit 500 career doubles when he knocked one off the right field scoreboard in the third inning. He would then hit a solo homer in the bottom of the eighth inning to put the Rockies ahead of the D'Backs 4-3.
We salute you, Todd Helton!
The bullpen pitched well today, as Matt Daley threw a 1-2-3 inning with two strikeouts and Juan Rincon followed in the eighth with a 1-2-3 inning. And just to shake things up, Huston Street also threw a 1-2-3 inning.
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whitesell ks to end the game
I only had gameday. Were they strikes? Gameday says all three well czlled strikes but all were outside the zone. Especially the last two. I guess that doesn’t jive with dbacksskins’ theory that the location is adjusted to make the umpire look better
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 22, 2009 4:00 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Last two were balls
Second strike was a makeup call for ball two, which definitely was a strike. Then Whitesell started jawing at the ump, which is why I would guess he got rung up on the last one.
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by SC Memphis Raines on Jul 22, 2009 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions
It's not adjusted immediately,
but rather, a little later. I’m not sure if those calls were bad enough to get rewritten, though.
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Sorry dude
Those calls were BS. They made me smile, but it’s a cheesy way to lose a game.
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
They were terrible calls
Really inconsistant.
by GoldenNugget on Jul 22, 2009 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice
I totally forgot there was a game today. Wandering in here and seeing that they won is like finding money in your jeans. A nice surprise brought about by your own forgetfulness
Way to go boys. Glad you did OK without me.
YOU SUCK TODD HELTON
you couldn’t have done this last night when I was at the game, and not today when I’ve been working the phones and emails, like I don’t think I ever have, and missed it all?
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
ESPN just showed
that Todd Helton is only the 5th player to get 500 HRS, 320 Hrs, and have a .325 career batting average.
And those other names….all legends. Stan the Man Musail, Babe Ruth, Ted Wiliams…I didn’t catch the others
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Once the stats start to get quite so selective
It’s not really all that meaningful. Just like saying “omg the Rox are so great since June 4th” when the season began, uh, two months earlier.
Helton was mentioned with 5 other Hall of Famers
and it’s not meaningful?
There are no Rockies in the HOF…to have one listed with those…is very meaningful.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
The problem is making your guy the lower bound
He’s got to be good to even be able to do so, but it makes it misleading. “here are are all these inner circle guys and my guy.”
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Well if their was some crazy stat
like, guys with goatees, or Names that start with H
but it’s not…it’s 500 Doubles, 320 HRs and a career BA of .320. These are not “fluke” stats, or obscure stats
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
My pt isn't the value of the categories, it's the misleading use of them
As if Helton can only look good if we use stats in the lamppost-supporting-drunk style.
We see this all the time. I don’t see why it should be any more acceptable when the media pulls this sort of braindead stuff to try to make Todd look good. They cherry-pick the baselines so the guy barely qualifies for the club, then point to all the superior members.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
When you talk career stats like that
it becomes VERY meaningful.
You’re confusing focusing on a small sample size with looking at entire careers.
by ShadowPenguin on Jul 22, 2009 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Well okay
How does it look if you up the qualifying mark to 330 homers? It’s an arbitrary figure chosen purely cos it makes Todd look great. He IS great, but that doesn’t mean it’s not artificial. You may as well add “and who are famed for their goatees” and then I’ll bet he’s even more exclusive.
Is "320 homers" a recognised milestone?
At least say you know where I’m coming from. I’m not just being churlish, I just think it’s a bit contrived!
Nah, actually
I think the career batting average is a better indicator/milestone.
But yeah, it’s probably one stat narrowed too far. Take out the homers, I’d like to see that company. 500 doubles and .320 BA.
by ShadowPenguin on Jul 22, 2009 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions
500+ doubles and .320+ career BA
Gave me these names (in descending doubles #):
Tris Speaker
Stan Musial
Ty Cobb
Nap Lajoie
Honus Wagner
Paul Waner
Wade Boggs
Charlie Gehringer
Tony Gwynn
Harry Heilmann
Rogers Hornsby
Joe Medwick
Al Simmons
Lou Gehrig
Cap Anson
Ted Williams
Ed Delahanty
Babe Ruth
That’s 18 other players, with some pretty damn big names.
by ShadowPenguin on Jul 22, 2009 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Too bad none of them
played at Coors. Maybe I’m being pessimistic, and I don’t know who will be the BBWAA voters whenever Helton is eligible but I just see him getting slammed for being a Rockie unless he puts up another 4 seasons like the one he’s having this year. Sigh
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
If you set the bar at 330
you end up wiith 5 Hall of Famers…and Todd within striking distance. You don’t end up with any additional marginal talents.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
"marginal talents"
if you look at ShadowPenquins list…you get 18….all hall of famers.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Who are the 5?
I am missing one; I have: Ruth, Gehrig, Musial, WIlliams
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
He obviously just like me better.
…and who would blame him? ;-)
Man, it seems like yesterday I was argueing with my dad that Gallaraga needed to give way to the the guy who would become the face of the franchise.
Congrats, and in the immortal words of the rockiescast guys, “All Hail Todd!”
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I feel ya...
I just got home from work and got on the Row expecting to see the pitching match ups for todays game, figuring it would start at 7:05 because that is the most common time to start our home games.. too bad. I guess as long as they won its alright but I feel like I really would have enjoyed waching Heltons 500th 2B.. I remember where i was sitting and watching the game when Biggio got his 3,000th hit against us. Theres something about watching milestones reached live that are so memorable, its like a flashbulb memory.
by Jay Doubleyou on Jul 22, 2009 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing.
It looks a lot better from this direction. Yesterday’s was brutal.
All Hail The Toddfather!
I could not be happier for #17. And for the Rockies. I try very hard not to overstate the importance of one win over another, but I really did feel that this game was pivotal in the playoff chase. Winning this series was just something I felt we really had to do with the Giants coming in for the week-end.
The atmosphere at Coors will just be electric come Friday night. I’ll be there on Saturday, and can hardly wait. Go Rox!
Free Seth Smith, damnit!
I'll be at Saturday's game too
Third year in a row for me and Squeaky, it was better when there were fewer people there. I’ll be the girl in the Greg Reynolds shirt (I credit it for our win today. :P)
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
Greg Reynolds shirt squee :) <3
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by AtkinsandTulofan on Jul 23, 2009 1:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Fantastic game
First win I’ve seen in person. Beautiful day for ball at 20th and Blake, and huge thanks to Roberbola, who graciously let Squeaky and I use his terrific tickets in section 135, 25 rows back of the screen. We WON a series against the Dbacks (be still my heart) and it was great to be there for Todd’s 500th. He got a great ovation, and the noise Coors made when he hit that homer is one of my favorite things in the world. Huston did his bit to finish it off, and we’re in a pretty good position for the Giants. I can’t believe our luck in missing both Haren and Lincecum. Which means…
Go Rockies!
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
OMG JOHN KRUK JUST SAID WE HAVE A GREAT CHANCE AT THE WILD CARD
No, seriously, he did, on Baseball Tonight. It was hilarious.
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LOL I was just watching that!
Baseball Tonight did a decent coverage on the Rockies..talking about our pitching (namely Ubaldo Jimenez), defense (namely Iannetta, Dex, and Tulo) and hitting (namely Helton and Hawpe). And then to put the cherry on top, Kruk comes out and says hey these guys have a nice chance at winning the Wild Card!! That pissed me off lol..3 weeks after saying we had no chance he takes it all back. Ugh. Pathetic
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 22, 2009 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow....
The Rockies are discussed on ESPN, What’s next — I’ll turn on sports radio in Denver and hear someone talking about the Rockies?
Nah…. that’s too unrealistic.
It's the local guys that really get me ...
I would like to see move coverage on national media outlets like ESPN, but that isn’t what bothers me at all. Listening to 104.3 and the local sports talk hosts drives me up the wall. I don’t know what bothers me more, them ignoring the Rockies 95% of the time, or the 5% of the time they spend complaining how the Monforts won’t spend enough for the Rockies to be good in the future. Far be it to spend any time of the Rockies right now, talking about their strengths, their depth, possible trades, etc. Just a vent :)
P.S. It was 10x worse even in 2007 prior to and during the Rockies run. I can’t remember how many times Joe and Jim reminded us that the Rockies were irrelevant, that we were just passing time before Broncos season, the Rockies would never make the playoffs with the current ownership, etc. It made Rockober especially sweet. I think maybe 104.3 has an agenda to keep people from listening to 850 for the games, so that’s why they don’t hype up the Rockies. Maybe I’m just paranoid.
lol
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Of course he never admits that his position has changed
…and nobody else points it out either.
Another reason to not get over excited about what any talking head on TV says. None of them have any credibility.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
But did he ever say on BBTN itself that he didn't think they'd get the WC?
If it was only that column, it would be pretty weird to refer back to an online-only column in order to point it out.
Yes, he said they wouldn't even contend for it
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Seriously? That's great!! It's about time he did
I expect more of the Rockies on espn these next few months.
Mr Chip is having surgery
Who comes up, Herges?
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-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 22, 2009 5:39 PM MDT reply actions
"If all goes according to plan, he could pitch again in September"
Not that I’d be counting on much.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Maybe
Or Flores. or Peralta. or maybe O’D has a deal ready to go.
Too bad about Manny. Let’s hope he comes back strong next year.
I'd Assume Herges
but Deduno IS already on the 40 man roster.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Chacin was pulled after one inning tonight
Is he coming up? Was he injured? Inquiring minds want to know.
Wow
We won. I had to go to work right after Baldo have up the 3 run homer. I expected to come home to a blowout.
consulted Beckett
The article said he consulted Beckett for advice. Derrek Lowe also had heinous blister issues.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Stupid Class
I was gone all day and I didn’t even know we won until about 15 minutes ago. Go Rockies!
And now it seems that me collecting all 430+ Helton cards is paying off (not that I care either way). CONGRATS TO #17, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
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