Jhoulys Chacin promoted from AA to bolster 'Pen

by Andrew Martin on Jul 23, 2009 10:15 AM MDT in Transactions & Rumors Comment 67 comments

According to Troy Renck and Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post, Rockies top pitching prospect Jhoulys Chacin has been promoted from AA Tulsa to the Rockies to fill in the Rockies' ailing bullpen.

While not expressly linked, the move may very well be in reaction the announcement yesterday that reliever Manuel Corpas, will be undergoing arthroscopic elbow surgery to remove bone chips from his elbow.

Chacin, who was posting a 3.14 ERA in 18 starts, is expected to be a future starting pitcher for Colorado, and has developed major-league command of a sinker and changeup to the point where the front office deemed him ready to hit the Majors. His solid work in AA combined with his strong showing in Spring Training made him a prime candidate for making the jump to Coors.

In 106 2/3 innings pitching this season, Chacin is sporting a 54% GB% as well as a 2.21 K/BB ratio.

SBNation blog Minor League Ball covered Chacin as a transition candidate here.

While this may be the most exciting move recently, the Rockies may yet make other, and are still linked to the Orioles' Danys Baez and the Indians' Rafael Betancourt. Randy Flores, Joel Peralta, and recently signed Matt Herges are also available for callup.

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If Randy Flores is the answer

I don’t want to see the question.

Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!

by Redhawk on Jul 23, 2009 10:24 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

hey hey

nowhere in there does it say “the answer” so you just cool your pants off mr….hot..pants – ok that didn’t work.

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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 23, 2009 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey

I look sexy in my hot pants

what…..like you don’t dress up on a Saturday night…just to feel sexy

Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!

by Redhawk on Jul 23, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not in hot pants...

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s really sad how many discussions on this site make my head go immediately to Simpsons episodes.

“Would that be the hot pants, sir?”
“Aye, the hot pants.”

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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 23, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

"We need one more throw-in for the Halladay trade. Who should we include, EY2 or Flores?"

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Jul 23, 2009 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 1 question I have is if

Chacin is going into the pen why are the Rox being so secretive about this? I understand it if he was going to start, you don’t want to give the Giants a leg up on scouting, but in the pen they don’t know when or if he is going to be used anyways.

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

by smokinRox on Jul 23, 2009 10:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

super cautious

1) They don’t want the Giants or any other team to do a lot of scouting even as a reliever
2) You never know what can happen. He might trip on some stairs carrying deer meat, or trip over his dog in his driveway, or mangle his hand in a snow blower incident. They want him on minor league roster in cast this happens. If he’s on the major league roster, the Rox would have started his clock..and not gotten to use him
3) He’s being traded to Toronto (ok….I just want to keep the rumor alive)

Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!

by Redhawk on Jul 23, 2009 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

This just in ESPN

is reporting that the Rockies have the backbones of a trade in place for Roy Haliday, the Blue Jays ace.

The Rockies would give up Ubaldo, Chacin, Eric Young Jr and a player to be named for cash considerations.

(Just keeping the rumor alive.)

by lizardlad01 on Jul 23, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phew

I thought you were serious

Some hope?

by rockiesfan4ever on Jul 23, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just had a minor heartattack

by Muzia on Jul 23, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

We ought to trade Atkins for him

That way Atkins will be in the other league, and it won’t come back to bite us.

by brian8065 on Jul 23, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

A deal for Atkins and Q?

I’d be up for that.

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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 23, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can we throw in Torrealba while we're at it?

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Jays want a catcher

Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!

by Redhawk on Jul 23, 2009 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

PLZ SEND OVERPAID BACKUP CATCHER

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I heartily approve this message. Was at the game yesterday, and he looked awful/pathetic/terrible (pick your adjective).

by SoxRoxFan on Jul 23, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he is going to start a game over the weekend

while Marquis’ blister heals, and then be put in the pen when Marquis is ready to go back into the rotation. Most teams don’t try to hide a BP arm coming up, its somewhat pointless.

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

by smokinRox on Jul 23, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

hopefully he pitches tomorrow or sat.

ill be at both those games. i’d love to see him in person

by purplesocks on Jul 23, 2009 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You think so?

It seems like kind of a pressure situation to give him a start right out of the gate in a fairly big series.

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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 23, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am now seeing the quotes from DOD that he is going to the pen

so I guess I’m wrong. I just don’t understand what it helps to keep it a secret if he is in the bullpen. Maybe they didn’t want to break any news and instead wanted Todd to get his moment in the sun. He deserves it, but thats a long shot.

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by smokinRox on Jul 23, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because of service time concerns

I doubt that they will call up Chacin until absolutely necessary (i.e. right before the game on Friday.) They can DL Corpas retroactively anyway.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some DOD quotes from the Post

“Yes, we are calling up Chacin,” Rockies general manager Dan O’Dowd said this morning. “This is something that has been in the back of our minds all year. We knew that if we needed some pitching, and couldn’t find it from outside, that Chacin would be an option.”

“We want to ease him into this a little bit,” O’Dowd said. “We will see how he does and then go from there. We want to keep developing him.”

by moomacher on Jul 23, 2009 10:50 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I like this move

Despite enjoying last night’s thread, it never seemed plausible that the trade for Halladay was in the works. The dodgers did this with both Kershaw and Billingsley to much success, obviously Joba and Price and countless other examples. If he’s ready to roll, let’s go. I like this a lot more than the forced Reynolds debut last year, which was all about trying desperately to make an impact move to generate some buzz.

by Teekalong on Jul 23, 2009 10:52 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Matt Capps?

I heard that Capps might be traded from Pittsburgh and do you think that’d be a good deal for the Rockies to get?

Some hope?

by rockiesfan4ever on Jul 23, 2009 11:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

everybody is getting traded from the pirates lol

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 23, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Pirates

are planning to call up the entire Indianapolis roster to play out the string this season, in an effort to win the Bryce Harper Sweepstakes.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Nationals

would still have the worst rotation

Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!

by Redhawk on Jul 23, 2009 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

hahaha yep

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 23, 2009 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The sad part is

this is probably correct.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather go after Grabow than Capps.

by WolfMarauder on Jul 23, 2009 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If pictures are any indication

Chacin definitely subscribes to the Brad Hawpe School of Facial Hair Non-Growth, which is not a good thing.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:15 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Hahahahahahaha

That is hilarious.

by GoRockies!! on Jul 23, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like this move

Although I’m not sure how I feel about Baez or Betancourt. Baez kinda sucks and I think our current options are just as good if not better than him. Betancourt I like but he has a 50% flyball rate which might not be too good.

Only 8 days to make something happen, hope it doesn’t suck…

The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.

by Resolution on Jul 23, 2009 11:15 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

FB concerns with Coors get overstated...

See Hammel, Jason. O’Dowd’s been pretty shrewd of late to realize this.

by Rox Girl on Jul 23, 2009 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

idk if i exactly understand what your saying

but hammel has been really bad when he pitches at coors.

7 HRs in 9 games with a 7.62 ERA and .379 BAA to go with it

by purplesocks on Jul 23, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess what I'm saying is that despite the Coors handicap,

Hammel’s been an overall plus by a considerable margin. If O’Dowd automatically decided not to pursue a quality pitcher just because of a high FB rate, we would be cutting out a large chunk of pitchers that would actually help the team.

by Rox Girl on Jul 23, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok i get it now

and i would agree. overall hammell has been a nice aquisition

by purplesocks on Jul 23, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

A closer look

shows that Hammel has been really unlucky at home. Not that he should be pitching like Cy Young but I think he could develop a home ERA of 4, 4.50, not one closer to 8. His k/9 and bb/9 are identical between home and away. Of course, he has been lucky away so there’s some room for regression there too.

by Resolution on Jul 23, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks for the legwork

what are his BABIPs looking like

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 23, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

BABIPs

Home: .414
Away: .274
Overall: .340

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also

his LOB% reflects a similar disparity

by Resolution on Jul 23, 2009 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

seems like his away numbers aren't too outrageous then

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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 23, 2009 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unsustainably ugly

by Resolution on Jul 23, 2009 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

his away numbers are the good ones

Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 23, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh my bad,

yea they’re not too far off. woo

by Resolution on Jul 23, 2009 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea? Good to know.

by Resolution on Jul 23, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow this is a big call-up.

I love it! Hopefully Franklin will develop into a legitimate reliever and Jhoulys can hold the fort this year. The Rockies MUST acquire a potential set up guy though. MUST.

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by Hollidayrain on Jul 23, 2009 11:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Why not?

I don’t see why we don’t try this. As has been mentioned, several players have eased into their role this way though the time in the pen has seemed to hurt some of them on the development on the third or fourth pitches you need as starter.

I am a bit surprised they went with Chacin from AA when they had already promoted Rogers to AAA, but I like it overall.

My prediction is that Atkins stays put as insurance on the corners, without Baker, we don’t really have another corner infielder. So a minor leaguer and Q will rpobably have to get a reliever.

by brainteaser on Jul 23, 2009 11:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think

a package including Q will net us anything of value, unfortunately.

by Muzia on Jul 23, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think forcing a team to take Q will hurt us

in any trade package.

by realmenwearpurple on Jul 23, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not really

He’s making the league minimum, has a good glove, and can play 2B and SS. That’s the kind of player who doesn’t necessarily help, but is not going to hurt.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Personally would rather have Jamie Carroll back to fill that spot.

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by smokinRox on Jul 23, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Personally

I’d kind of like Clint Barmes to fill that spot and EY2 to be starting at 2B.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be good w/ that too, even EY2 off the bench would be ok

give us some speed late in games.

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by smokinRox on Jul 23, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Barmes filling the spot

and Kinsler starting at 2B :V

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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 23, 2009 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

While we're at it, can we get Longoria to play third?

He could probably give us added production there over what we have…

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 23, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Walker nixed that trade didn't he?

by Resolution on Jul 23, 2009 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Q

Q is a good player. He is in a very tough situation. We KNOW he can handle the job defensively. You take a player and never play him, this is what happens. He was certainly good enough in the spring to get this job. The next time he should be evaluated is the off season/next spring.

He is a good player, and has proved himself in the minors.

by brian8065 on Jul 23, 2009 12:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

The problem with Q

While he’s a useful player, the Rockies don’t have much use for him: when you have a starting SS who’s excellent defensively and, while he isn’t Cal Ripken, doesn’t need that many days off (I’m talking about day-to-day fatigue, not the injuries that have sidelined Tulo); and a starting 2B who’s capable of filling in at SS and is also above average defensively, there just isn’t that much use to having a good gloveman on the bench.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 23, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs