owners say no more money
by cowboycr278 on Jul 28, 2009 2:21 PM MDT
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According to a report on FOXSports.com, the Rockies are struggling in their search to find another southpaw to complement Franklin Morales.
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It's good to include the article link
I assume you’re referring to this Ken Rosenthal article.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
You forget
that the Rockies management already added over $7mil dollars of payroll this year, a 9% increase in a down economy and after a disappointing season in 2008. They are also paying Hurdle not to work for them and just added the $1.1mil for Betancourt that you just mentioned for what will probably amount to about 20 innings of work for the rest of the year. Not to mention starting Chacin’s service clock early for the sake of bullpen relief.
I daresay they are showing the fanbase and the club that they are serious about winning and have made significant financial steps towards proving this point.
Hurdle still works for them!
just…not in the dugout!
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 28, 2009 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, lets run through what we spent
We spent a good 2 million on Embree, added about 5 million by getting rid of Vizcaino but adding Marquis’s salary, we had arbitration raises for Atkins, De la Rosa, Barmes, and Buchholz, and we took on Street’s salary. We also took off Holliday and Fuentes from the payroll, saving a ton. Now, we’re having Marquis’s salary off the books, Embree, Torrealba, and Betancourt have an option, we have the ability to cut Atkins this year, though Street, De la Rosa, Barmes, Tulo, Spilly, Corpas, and Iannetta are due for raises. Most likely, Spilly will be traded this offseason, the Rockies have to consider trading Barmes, all of the options will be declined, Marquis won’t be offered arbitration, and Atkins will be cut.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 28, 2009 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Also due for raises for 2010
In addition to your list: Hammel (likely arb-eligible), Hawpe ($2M), Corpas ($2M), Francis ($2M), Jimenez ($0.5M).
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Oh, and for the record
the owners always say no more money
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
Oh well
I like this team. They can get the job done. A LOOGY would help but it’s okay, our ownership has proven to us fans that it is dedicated to winning.
For the record
I think the Rockies should trade for a LOOGY and take a chance with the cash. Just having Franklin Morales as the only lefty in the pen isn’t going to work when he has a set up job to help with, and Flores shouldn’t belong on an MLB team at this point.
For the record, Rhodes and Beimel make 2 mill in total this year, Feliciano makes 1.6 in total, Hendrickson 1.5 in total, Sherrill 2.7, Grabow 2.3. (I don’t know how much is remaining on any of their deals) It seems that Feliciano or Hendrickson would make the most sense in financial terms, so should Feliciano be the target? Right now the Rockies have connected to all the relievers above except Feliciano.
Right now, if we need money, then the best option for the Rockies would be
to trade Atkins (who I personally do not want to get rid off) or Torrealba, who is making 3.75 million this year, then call up Paul Phillips/Edwin Bellorin. Say if the Rockies eat at least 2 million off the contract in a possible trade, would they A) Have any takers and B) Have enough money to trade for a LOOGY?
I like Torrealba, but he is expensive and replaceable because of Phillips, Bellorin, and even McHenry, who seems destined to be the backup catcher of the Rockies.
And other teams will take Torrealba and his salary why, exactly?
And clubs who have cheat, talented pitchers on their staff will trade them to us why, exactly?
If we trade Atkins but are forced to eat his salary – as would seem inevitable – we won’t be any better off financially! Your desires are mostly flights of fancy with no base in reality, but you post them like they’re serious. I don’t get it.
Catching is one hell of a position to fill.
I never said that the team would’ve to give us cheap pitching, more or less like a move like we did Baker, but for something I said we would eat about half the salary, so we would have about a million left for a LOOGY. A taker could be team like the Cubs who have one catcher on the roster because of an injury. The Rockies have shopped Torrealba, but they didn’t have any takers because of the salary issues.
“Your desires are mostly flights of fancy with no base in reality, but you post them like they’re serious. I don’t get it.”
Way to put in an insult there. Give me a few examples? From what I’ have remember posting on the site, I’ve said I would like the Rockies to trade for Beimel, for EY2 to start sometime, and for Fowler to sit for a while due to change his approach to the plate so that he could strike out less. Of course I’m a little serious about them, otherwise I wouldn’t post them, but it’s not like I could make anything I said happen. They’re what you said: desires.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 28, 2009 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Bad Catching is actually pretty easy to fill
there are a ton of AAAA catchers that float around every year for several years in their careers. The Rockies have 2 in Fasano and Phillips, and Bellorian is getting into that category as well. AND they are cheaper usually league minimum contacts
The problem with the Rockies not adding any more payroll…is that is also the problem with about 20 of the major league teams. If both want to get cheaper, then it’s impossible to make a trade.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Yorvy plays at jussssssssssssssssssst above replacement.
0.1 WAR to be specific.
So yeah, there’s a lot of catchers who could be Yorvit and muchmuch cheaper. Like Danny Ardoin.
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Interestingly enough
JD Closser is putting up a .360 wOBA with the Dodgers’ AAA club. Awesome.
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2009 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Like the PCL stats mean anything this year
which is very odd. It seems that AAA, specifically the PCL is further from the big leagues in terms of talent, then I can remember
Unless we are talking about EY2…and his numbers are all legit (in fact I think they are too legit) of course.
Common everyone….it’s Wednesday morning the Rockies are down….you need to dance with lines cut in your hear like Tulo!
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
esp. places like the Springs and Albuquerque
given the altitude, they’ve always tended to be more higher octane parks of PCL. Prob. Salt Lake City, too.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Ardoin
It was kind of fun that year he got a bunch of starts. The team wasn’t going anywhere, and he wasn’t much of a hitter, but he sure could play the position.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I had a friend that went to Spring Training
when Ardoin was on the team. She was a very smart baseball girl, not your air head “david wright girl” fan at all. When I asked about ST and did any of the players stand out, the first thing she said was, “Danny Ardoin is very pretty”
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
He was a nice guy too
My dad is still a big fan
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions
might have been a nice guy
but also had to be one of the (if not the) worst offensive players in Colo history. Made Manwaring look like Piazza.
oh yeah
even my dad doesn’t deny that.
I seem to remember an Ardoin grand slam. Anybody else remember this?
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Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Nope.
Never drove in more than two runs as a Rockie.
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