Dodgers acquire George Sherrill
Ken Gurnick from MLB.com is reporting that the Los Angeles Dodgers have acquired LHP George Sherrill from the Baltimore Orioles in exchange for 3B Josh Bell and RHP Steve Johnson.
Sherrill , the closer for Baltimore, was 0-1 with 20 saves and a 2.40 ERA, complemented by a 3.00 K/BB ratio through 41 1/3 innings of work.
Sherrill will likely be the primary setup man for Dodgers' closer Jonathan Broxton.
What this means for the Rockies is that there is 1 less LHP bullpen candidate available for trade. The Rockies will now turn their attention toward veteran Mark Hendrickson from the O's or perhaps to Toronto for LHP Scott Downs.
Bell, 23, is putting up a .296/.386/.497 line with the Chattanooga Lookouts, the Dodgers' AA affiliate.
Johnson, 22, made the jump to AA this season, and has a 1.69 ERA in 2 starts for the Lookouts.
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Ummm
am I missing something here? Because that doesn’t seem like much of price for Sherril
Did anyone believe someone would actually offer that?
O’s start by asking high, as they should. The other side in negotiations tries talking them down. I guess the O’s figured this was good enough, though it does seem underwhelming. Bell was toward the end of organizational top 10 lists, it seems.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I knew they were asking for the moon
but I am just surprised at what they ended up agreeing to, it seems very underwhelming to me.
Thanks to wishEYEhadCRABS and NewMexicanSteven
for pointing out some glaring flaws
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
Grabow about to go to the Cubs
Per ESPN. I may be in the minority but i would ship EY2 for Beimel like now. Everyone is loading up and we are going to get left. We will still have a good year but mid market teams ned to make there playoff runs when they can.
I'm hearing Grabow to the Cubs
along with Gorzelanny.
The Pirates are doing a great job at cleaning house.
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Honestly....
we need more than a LH reliever. A legit bat in LF (or maybe just starting Smith everyday). A legit bat at 2B. A rotation upgrade from Hammel. Then maybe a LH reliever.
At this point, I think the Rockies are going to be passed by the Cubs/Cardinals & Braves unless they make another move.
We have the OF bats
It’s the management’s willingness to play them.
Barmes’ bat at 2B, as we’ve discussed ad nauseum, is countered by his glove. His bat, as it stands, is just below average, but when you account for positional adjustments, Barmes has been a 1.5 win player so far this season.
I don’t think we can feasibly acquire a better 2B. Brian Roberts would be nice, and he has a better bat, but his glove plays as below average anymore.
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Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I also think
that any starting pitching will come from within. Smith/CarGo has been a good platoon, IMO, and CarGo has shown some life recently.
This is clearly a bad stretch for the Rox, but I think overreacting here would be terrible.
Not an over-reaction...
I like the future potential of the bats on this team but if we’re serious about making the playoffs this year, we’re killing our chances while we let Stewart, Fowler and CarGo develop.
I understand that for the long-term benefit of the team, this isn’t really the year to make a run (hence why only Bentacourt was aquired). My point was merely, if we wanted to be serious about this year, we needed another bat in the lineup.
Yeah agreed
but there’s always the “what if Iannetta, Stewart, or Hawpe turn into Atkins?” question about 2010. I think we should be better next year but who knows. Todd will be a year older, injuries, etc…I feel like if you are leading the wildcard on August 1 you should seriously make an effort for the playoffs.
Our bats can suffice
Everyone would like more offense. This team loses the majority of its games from bad bullpen. Whether itis/was Balisle,Rincon,Peralts,Corpas. Embree (early on more so). the starters have had many quality starts only to be let down. rincon throwing the way he did Monday is not tolerable by a playoff contending team.
Beimel is available and if it takes EY2 to get him than so be it.
The problem isn't just one batter
the problem with the Rockies is it’s several batters. If you look at say one…lets take Barmes, you can say he brings enough to the table to be a plus…but not offensively. Same with LF, where we would expect good offensive production. Not happening lately. Same with Catcher, same with 3rd base. All of these positions haven’t produced enough. Individually you can make a claim all are ok…but when you add it up that’s too many spots in a line up not producing enough.
Solutions? With out spending money? Look at the teams that are adding talent. The Dodgers, The Cubs, The Phillies all are big market, big pocket teams. The Mariners & Cardinal have had payrolls near $110 million are very much in the upper middle class of teams. The Rockies don’t have the money or the payroll …and fixing the economic disparities of baseball, is something I don’t know how to fix. (and I personally don’t think the powers that be want to fix it..as having successful big market teams is better for baseball)
Ok…back to what can the Rockies do to improve their team.
Catcher: I’m not sure there are many catchers that hit…so this one is a push for most clubs, and not upgradeable. However, having Torrealba or Phillips in the line up, I don’t think we lose much offense…so I might trade Iannetta if I could get a player of need (specifically a AA young corner IF with up side)
2ndbase: I bring up EY2. Have him split time with Barmes. Not a straight split…Barmes is the “starter”….EY2 gets like 2 starts a week..if he does good..more.
3rdbase: Stewart was on the up swing for a lot of July…then slowed down. I PRAY he works out long term and short term. He can’t bust. Only Stewart can up grade 3rd base. Atkins just isn’t the same player he once was.
LF: Smith has really fallen off since the all star break. .167/.273/222 in his last 8 games. That’s a huge fall fast. Is he hurt? Is there a new book on him?
CF: Fowler Has really struggled, but even more so lately .200/.349/343 since the all star break with only 4 SB.
RF: Hawpe has slowed down .280 since the All Star break but only one HR.
OF: Spilly has looked terrible of late…..so the solution….play CarGo a lot more, especially in CF, but in all spots giving guys a break. Hope he’s improved enough to be an offensive improvement. Maybe a little rest will spark one or all three of our OFs
I’d also DFA Rincon, and bring up Deduno in the pen. I move Hammel to the Pen (or even try to trade him as I don’t think he’s a good fit for Coors Field, not enough control or power), and start either Fogg or Chacin.
Is this hard? Yeah…this is a playoff race. Not t-ball. I don’t give a damn if your widdle feewings are hurt.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Flip Hammel and Fogg
Ditch Rincon. If you don’t make the playoffs it isn’t the end of the world. but this team needs to compete and not be satisfied with average. Santana is a stud he can shut down any team. But this team is as streaky as they come with the bats.
I agree with what you have to say....
EY2 up and either Deduno or Rogers. The big thing we need is another OF bat. LF is a sinkhole right now. If we’re committed to Fowler in CF (good thing) we need a reliable bat in LF. That’s where we need to upgrade.
Washington
Has a ton of LF bats laying around. I think this is where a deal needs to be made. Dunn or Willingham….(preferably Willingham)
Washington's pitching is a joke
you’d think they would like some pitchers. Hammel would be their ace.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Willingham is good
because we desperately need a RH bat
this is a fact
Much as I think that Adam Dunn would be awesome to watch at the dish, we need a big RHB.
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions
problem is it's buying high
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah but not dramitcally so
he has been above average in his career….and he has what, 2 years left until free agency after this one?
something like that
which will drive his price higher. Washington isn’t just going to give him up for nothing.
We already have an OF logjam.
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd expect we would send them one of our OF
and we could give up a couple of mid prospect pitchers, as the Rockies have a lot of em
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
I would trade Cargo
for a corner OF who can hit and is under control for a few more years. But I think Washington is done with toolsy headcase outfielders for a while
Or Seth Smith
and I see Smith vs CarGo as a Mary Ann vs Ginger.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Willingham has always been solid
iirc, his problems have always been injuries…
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 30, 2009 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions
The only way to upgrade
with out taking on Salary is internally. And if you think that is the real issue, then you play CarGo there, and hope. Smith’s been solid (if unspectacular) all season, but has nose dived since the All-star break. I’d expect him to be back to solid if he’s not hurt.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
cherry picking
Smith is hitting that .167/.273/.222 in 22 PA’s. You’ve never seen a player have a stretch like that over 22 consecutive PA’s?
Helton is having a remarkably consistent season, yet from May 22 to May 26, he had 22 PA’s, and hit .111 / .273 / .167.
What does it all mean? The mostly likely answer is that the guy didn’t hit well for 22 PA’s.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
again
you are right. You can defend each player individually. Barmes, Iannetta, Stewart, Smith, Fowler, Hawpe, Each one has a case to be made, on “it’s not as bad as it could be”
My point is I just listed 6 players. Out of 8 positions…..that’s too many players that need defending.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
teams have slumps though
All of them.
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm waiting on the Dodgers and the Giants
Good teams slow down…they don’t slump. Mediocre teams slump. Some don’t unslump.
Honestly June and the 1/2 of July the Rockies played incredible. Way over their heads. They one and scored runs with a terrible BA, cause they had big hits, timely hits and great pitching.
Now I’m afraid we are seeing the “real” Rockies…which to me is a .500 team. Too young to be consistent enough. Lacking good proven veteran bats
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
slow down, slump, whatever, it's all semantics
http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/split_stats_lg.cgi?full=1¶ms=month|June|NL|2009|bat|AB|
check out #13
Looks like a slump to me
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions
The Dodgers
were 14-11 over that period, and still have the most wins in baseball.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
That wasn't the point
I’m saying that even the best teams have offensive slumps.
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure the bottom line
of any stats discussion should be winning and losing. I think that’s kinda important….in fact…it’s the ONLY thing
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Semantics
Now I feel we’re getting into semantics. “Slumps” vs. “slowing down.”
Teams will have their ups and downs. Why put the punctuation mark where you’re putting them? July for some players, the last 22 PA’s for Smith, half of July for the team.
I don’t disagree with most of what you’ve written above. Maybe some players are pressing, or are even tired. Spot starting some guys for might well help.
But I don’t see why one should exaggerate the effects of a bad series any more than one should assume the Rockies are always going to play like they did in June.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
If I use No stats and say it’s my perception…I get jumped on
If I use some state, then I picked the wrong stats, as I didn’t pick the ones someone wanted me to pick
I’m just pointing out that this team has issues. Ignoring those issues or pretending they don’t exist, or will go away, is up to you.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
C'mon, why exaggerate
I don’t think there any many who think there aren’t any at the moment. Few are ignoring them or are pretending they don’t exist.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
This is a good point
I was just thinking yesterday about how the team doesn’t have any “holes”, i.e., Danny Ardoin type guys that are auto-outs with no upside, but the fact is we have no “stars” either. There are only a few guys that would be candidates for top 5 at their position, and nobody is close to #1.
The thing is, this team has not been a “sum of its parts” squad. Under Hurdle, we were less. Under Tracy, we have been more. As Redhawk suggests, the real team is somewhere in the middle, and probably not good enough to win the wild card stretch. I just don’t know how you “fix” this situation. Just gotta hope that we can play over our heads enough to separate.
I think most of us have come to the conclusion
that this ‘09 club is a .500 team and I tend to agree, which is all the more reason we don’t sell the farm for 1 LOOGY. Beimel, Downs or any other LH pitcher in the pen is not going to turn this team from a .500 team to a playoff team and even more a team that can go deep into the playoffs. Thats why making a trade right now is not a necessity. We should mostly go w/ what we have unless there is a deal too good to turn down, and use some of our young guns if neccesary. It is not a guarantee that Dex, CarGo, and others will improve next year, but I don’t think all of these guys are .220 hitters either. I think we have a chance for a lot of improvement next year, and especially the pen, when guys like Weathers, Lindsay, and Escalona may be ready to help the big club. Maybe even Reynolds and Friedrich at some point. I just don’t think its time to flip out and start making trades.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
My real problem
is my head is having a hard time breaking it to my heart that the Rockies probably won’t be making the playoffs.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
You gave up on the Dodgers for WC thing quickly :)
60 games man
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 31, 2009 1:13 AM MDT up reply actions
you give up so fast
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Seriously, that was the first series we've lost since the All-Star break
while Boson AND the Dodgers each had losing streaks of at least four games in the last two weeks. LA’s lost 5 of 7 and playing in Atlanta this weekend won’t be easy. Not saying we’ll catch them, but man, every team has a bad series
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 31, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, Higgs had a pretty awful series
He only had 2 hits, but you can probably spin that.
He really gives some mass to the rest of his lineup.
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
maybe if it's at night
you’ll need to be away from the city, usually too much interference out that way in major metro areas. I’m in Dallas and I can pick it up 50 miles outside of the city but not inside
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by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 30, 2009 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Now the Cowboy says we are in on Nick Johnson
I don’t get it….lefty 1B
Word is we're looking at Nick Johnson as a bench bat
WHY
also
Talk of the Rockies trading for Blue Jays lefty Scott Downs was strongly denied by a source with one of the clubs.
WHY
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9871032/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Thursday%27s-edition
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That's really bizarre
Maybe he can pitch. Or maybe Todd’s about to go on a hunger strike.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Nick Johnson?
HUH? We need another lefty bat off the bench? One with a pretty good sized salary?
The ONLY way that makes sense is if there are more players involved, and Johnson is more a salary dump to go along with other players coming to the Rockies
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it still doesn't really make sense
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 30, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions
No sense ever...
They better not do this.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jul 30, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, if it didn't cost big name prospects
And we had a ton of cash, I would love to have that bat, off the bench.
Depending on who the Rockies give up
I don’t have a problem with Johnson on the bench as a PH. Not sure how it’s better then Smith or CarGo as a PH off the bench (lefties)
Maybe…they look at Helton and how he’s done with days off…and plan on giving him more…but don’t like Aktins as the fill-in.
And this only works if Atkins goes to the Nationals….which makes the Rockies even more Left handed.
I dunno…it makes no sense
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just thought.....3 way trade?
Nick Johnson makes no sense to the Rockies…but a 3 way trade?
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
where is all this pesimisim coming from?
before the mets series it seemed like everyone was gunning for the dodgers, now its that we’ll be lucky to be in it if we dont make a move.
we made our move. we got betancourt. we promoted chacin. our lineup has just hit a snag against the mets in a city where we historically have been terrible.
its not yet time to panic. if we leave new york and the offense still looks anemic at the end of the road trip then it might be time but i have a feeling we will turn it around once we land in cincy
trade deadline is tmrw
so we can’t really wait
YOU are right "purplesocks"
The Cubs just made a trade and gave away nothing for 2 LHP. The Rockies minor league guys are so good they should be filling the gaps. Right? And before you say trading away the future you better look some of these guys ages.
To "smokinRox"
“when guys like Weathers, Lindsay, and Escalona may be ready to help the big club. Maybe even Reynolds and Friedrich at some point. I just don’t think its time to flip out and start making trades.” Lets see, Weathers surgery, Lindsay hasn’t pitched just about all spring he’s hurt, Escaclona, set up guy, AA again next year. Reynolds bad back not to mention where is he? Friedrich yes, forgot one, the Tulsa closer Johnston but he is already 25.
if you want to reply directly to someone
You can click reply right under their comment rather than typing your comment in the bottom of the thread
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