Washington Post Reports Rockies acquire Joe Beimel
by Rox Girl on Jul 31, 2009 1:25 PM MDT
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PrintChico Harlan of the Washington Post is reporting the Rockies acquired left handed pitcher Joe Beimel from the Nationals to bolster their bullpen, although it's unclear at this point what they've sent in return.
Earlier reports linking the Rockies to Beimel indicated that they were asking for Eric Young Jr., but the Rockies were reluctant to part with their second base prospect. As more comes out about this trade, we will update.
UPDATE: MLBlogs is reporting that the trade is "for two minor league pitchers" but not Eric Young.
UPDATE II: Troy E. Renck indicates that Sky Sox closer Ryan Mattheus might be one of the pitchers returning to Washington. Beimel's agent says he's excited about the opportunity to play with the Rockies.
UPDATE III: Per the comments, MLB Network reported the trade is Beimel for Mattheus and 23 year old RHP Robinson Fabian. The Nationals get a couple of live arms, but there's plenty of risk from their end.
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Would rather have seen Reynolds up w/ the big club
unless we gave up Colonel or Miller, or something that will not damage the farm too much.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Reynolds isn't going to be ready until next year at least
He has 10 innings above A+ ball.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Once a guy hits AA
I think the team is confident he can move from there to the big club, unless its a guy they are just moving based on age and no real dominance. All we are asking for is a lefty that can get other lefties out, not to be a set up man. I would rather see what he has first, then give up too much for the likes of Beimel.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
4 months late, O'Dowd
4 months of Alan Embree
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
In all aspects
Beimel was incredibly overrated last year. Now he’s gone to other side of the spectrum wand being underrated. His WHIP has been lower this year, especially against lefties, and that is with the worst defense in the MLB behind him.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Still an improvement over Rincon
and still another lefty
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
And I think
this is the key. More lefty (and he’s not bad) and less Rincon
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
hah, good point
Scary stat? Rockies bullpen ERA minus Street’s contribs: 5.17
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Is it an upgrade from Rincon? Sure. But...
Beimel’s got almost no platoon split this year – righties OPSing .714, lefties at .705 (and most of that is slugging.) He’s got an 11/10 BB/K ratio against righties.
Betancourt was a good trade. This seems like a panic deal, although we’ll know more once the cost reveals itself.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
The question is who blinked?
If it was the Nationals suddenly coming down on their price, than it’s not really a panic move. If it was the Rockies acquiescing, than I think you could be right.
Definitly.
I can’t imagine the Rockies were the ones who panicked though. They were nut under the gun to get him.
I agree
I’d be pretty upset if we gave up somebody the franchise is pretty high on for a guy who is at best going to be the fourth or fifth best reliever you have. Which is why I’m both scared that they did but fairly optimistic that they didn’t.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
It could be a panic move
look at all the deals that have gone on today. I’d like to think it wasn’t, because we’ve been tracking him for a while. It may have also been a panic on the Nationals side realizing that this could be their last chance to move him. I really doubt Beimel would move unclaimed through waivers
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Only one of the moves today really has an impact on the Rockies, though...
And that would be LaRoche to the Braves, which might not be that big of an upgrade over Kotchmann. I don’t know, I worry about Atlanta, but we still have a pretty good leg up on them.
I think I agree with small upgrade
Since Kotchman seems like a better fielder, and LaRoche isn’t great shakes himself as a 1B.
At least they took the time to take a little stumble the same time we made ours.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I really do think that the Nationals made this trade happen
DOD said we were going to stay put.
I’m not eliminating the possibility of this being a panic move though. Getting Nick Johnson would prove we’re panicking.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions
I missed this
LaRoche is back with Atlanta? That has to be interesting… we don’t want/need you so we will send you to our AAA club in Pittsburgh and get you back when we do need you
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
LaRoche sucks
He’s an OK bat but it doesn’t play at 1B at all
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
This was somewhat unexpected
after the events and statements from the last few days. I’m glad we now have more help, but didn’t Joe try his hardest to stay away from Colorado. I hope he comes in here expecting to win.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
All I can say is
If this is true, Beimel must be ecstatic to get out of Washington.
If the asking price....
..wasn’t too high, then kudos to D O’d for this one. Beimel’s a solid pro who won’t get blown up and gets lefties out. It takes pressure off Morales and gives Tracy another veteran who can handle late inning work.
It gives Tracy the ability to work Morales whenever he wants
instead of having to play the game of lefties with him because Morales was the only lefty in the pen.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey, he is also a type B
So, if we offer arbitration to him and Bets, and they leave, we will get two picks!
Hahahahaha
Beimel was avoiding the Rockies like the plague last year, so I have to imagine he declines to give us the picks. And no harm if he does stay.
I want Betancourt to stay though.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions
option?
doesn’t Betancourt have a 5.8m option for next year or something? Can we decline the option and offer arbitration?
Yes and yes
he has an option and we can/will decline it when the season is over making him a FA. We will the probably offer arbitration and see what happens from there.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
My thoughts exactly
I hope he chooses to pitch well here and not worry about altitude purposes.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
Gotta imagine it's
Reynolds plus like an A pitcher…..
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Matt Reynolds, I'd guess.
But word earlier today was that the Rockies were reluctant to part with him too.
Dannon and Yoplait.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
This deadline is smoking...
seems like there has been more action than in the last few years.
The media thought that the waiver trades would be up. Whoa.
I got nothing.
Contract for next year as well...
Heyman is on the trade show on MLB.com saying that he will help them next year too.
I got nothing.
Its a bit lame
that they added Rolen right as we’re about to face them…
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
That was a long time ago.
He’s batting a tidy .209/.333/.374 this season.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
oh yea...
I guess that’s my not so subtle point. Big Time Prospects bust all the time.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Like yogurt!
Were you in on that thread earlier today? I don’t remember.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
Yep. I worry that CarGo and Chris Nelson will follow this sort of path...
Not too worried about our other prospects just yet.
I think Ian Stewart
mostly cause of the 3rd base.
But…I also think Stewart still has the potential to be on of the biggest Rockies ever
Which is why I’m so frustrated with him.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
And he's taken a sad slide down since.
The guy has no business on the left side of the infield, or in the outfield, or at second base, catcher or pitcher, and first base is kind of iffy. Plus he’s a terrible hitter.
reds still delusional?
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions
If it's Edwin Encarnacion plus nobody major
Jocketty isn’t a madman.
When Rolen isn’t injured, he’s a major plus glove and an above average bat, and he’s under contract till next year, though he’s expensive.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
no i know he is a good bat
but they are not in it and yes he is expensive
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Hahahaha I win with the Rolen deal!
Encarnacion plus minor leaguer for Rolen.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
And so is Encarnacion
He was a good power bat then fell apart
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
smoking deadline...
Yeah, it’s fun! Lots of news.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
EY2
Had better turn out to be a good MLer after all the hand wringing about dealing him this season. Madonna would be jealous of all the hype he’s gotten. :)
2 minor leaguers in return
i guess it wasn’t anybody very good….didn’t say yet
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
so weird
they gotta be packaging Kotchman to get Heath Bell or something
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
lol yea seriously they have enough infielders?
there like our outfield in spring training
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I think so, I was thinking fair enough when they got rid of LaRoche
but when it was Kotchman back I was thinking huh?
He’s too marketable to be a bench bat/defensive replacement
Wasn't Kotchman a big part of the Angels deal for Teixiera?
they’re trading A defense for a bat……this isn’t going to work well for the Braves. Really bad trade for the Braves.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Why do you think so?
LaRoche is a slightly better hitter over his career, and they probably feel good about him since he’s from their system.
Kotchman may be one of those “needs a change of scenery” types.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Kotchman is probably one of the best defensive first baseman in the MLB
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions
That's why they like him
They’ll probably use him like they used Mientkiewicz back in 04.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
I went to a Yankees/Angels came
a few years ago and he made a handful of plays that were just awesome
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
yep not at all
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Doesn't the trade deadline
end in like 5 minutes?
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
everything always comes in late like this
crazy
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions
yes
but there are deals turned into the league office…but not approved of, for an hour or so
Also…the next period is called the “waiver” period. The teams put players on waivers and if they are claimed they are pulled back. If they cleared waivers, they are then available to be traded. The guys on waivers…don’t actually get released.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Yea
I know about the waiver period, good stuff.
So deals can still be publicized/come to light an hour after the deadline ay? Cool
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
WOW
I love this deal!!! i’ve always been really high on Beimel and I’ve always wanted him to come here. Now what I’m worried about is who we gave up and how much he wants to play here. He BETTER come here wanting to win. I think is a very very good trade. Kudos O’Dowd!!
He got dealt
from the worst team in baseball to a team in the thick of a pennant race. He’s very happy right now, I assure you.
I don't know....
He chose the Nationals over us. We were projected to be better than them…
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
We were in talks with him
and he didn’t want to sign with us except in a stupid deal for us.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm guessing it was mostly due to money
We already had Embree on the team, and probably offered him less than he thought he could get.
I think you nailed it.
He didn’t want to sign with the rockies because he thought a better offer would come along. He waited too long and got stuck with whatever team would take him. I don’t see that as mattering to how he regards the team now. I would want to play for the team that is in contention, playing good baseball, not the poor team that may or may not make it to 55 games…
cough....Fogg....cough
Funny Dog to Make Life Worthwhile
by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions
we weren't gonna pay him
and he basically shot us down then, and suddenly realized that nobody really was, so he signed with the Nats
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
It was more like he realized the season started in two weeks
and took the first team that called him back.
The Huston Street Bridge
appears to have been rebuilt.
Flores-Embree-Peralta-Rincon has become Bettancourt-Beimel-Daley-Morales.
Nice turnaround in a short period of time.
I know which one I like better
Although the first one was amusing in a “Holy crap, this is actually working?” sense during that big winning streak.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
I find this deal to be stupid for the Blue Jays
Encarnacion was a useless player. Rolen is sick with the glove and good with the bat, albeit injury-prone
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Encarnacion was injured
And could find his groove again. Rolen’s OLD and EXPENSIVE. And he only has 8 homers. He’s on the decline.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Encarnacion plays like he's Rolen's age. I see him a lot out here...
He should be a first baseman, but he doesn’t hit well enough to be one.
True, you would know better.
I don’t keep tabs on the Reds.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Alonso is in the deal as well
Red’s first round pick last year…although strugs city this year
OK, now I think it's a little stupid
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
It's deals like this
that make you realize our FO is one of the better ones around.
Ick.
Major power bat coming to the Jays
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Encarnacion, Josh Roenicke, and Zach Stewart
for Rolen
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
People are probably sorting through faxes trying to figure it all out
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Its just kind of a confusing trade
from both sides…
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Ah
if the Jays get Alonso, it’s a lot less confusing…
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
So anyways
tell me more about this encarnacion…
"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."
-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Marlins have acquired Nick Johnson apparently
He’s a good bat to plug in front of Han-Ram
yepo for a double A pitcher
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions
It's Aaron Thompson
Average double A pitcher
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
yea he sucks
from what his stats show
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Where does he fit with Cantu at first?
Or does Bonafacio finally get booted from the third base job he never deserved, and Cantu goes back there?
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm a little more worried about the Marlins than I was last week.
And I was a little more worried about them then than I was the week before, I don’t know if I like this trend.
Was looking at records last night, and they're two wins behind us.
Can the young pitching hold up? Don’t think so, but we’ll see.
I got nothing.
They're one of two teams in the race that can point to a
natural maturation of their young players as a reason that they could get better as we go along. Luckily for us, the Rockies are the other team. Everybody else seems pretty much at their peaks.
Yepo
Bonifacio gets stuck in the super utility role.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Same blog post from the top
Says the Johnson trade fell through. He’s still in Washington.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
I'm seeing Johnson to the Marlins, that it DID go through after all
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Latest update at WaPo
Says it didn’t.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
I don't doubt you
I just still see Fox as the headline saying the Marlins got him
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9875596
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Conflicting media rules.
I would tend to trust the WaPo beat writer since he’s in the clubhouse with the team.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
And now the WaPo guy just confirmed it again.
D’oh.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
Biemel
didn’t want to sign with the Rockies this off season. To the point he signed a one year deal with the Nationals. Does that affect this trade? 2 minor league pitchers…for 2 months of Biemel who doesn’t want to pitch in Colorado.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Way too much is being made....
of this “he didn’t want to be here” stuff. It was a business deal that didn’t work out. if we hated Colorado, he wouldn’t have entertained an offer.
Plus, look at it this way: he’ll be a FA again this season, so he’s going to give everything he has right now. And, if he leaves, as mkorpal points out, we get a nice draft pick.
I said above
that we didn’t want to give Beimel the length or volume he was looking for. So he said “fine I’ll go do whatever” expecting to get a big contract from someone. And it didn’t come, so he had to sign with the Nats.
See: Fogg, Josh; Affeldt, Jeremy
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Why wouldnt you want to play for a team that is contending?
(or would it be in contention? I suuuuck at grammar.)
Pitchers Elevation
Coors still has a bad rep for some pitchers. Release points on pitches are different and breaking balls break different even with the humidor
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
but if a pitcher stuggles here
and are a free agent….that could cost them money on their next contract
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Fine
Good stuff but had dealt with some injuries and the results had not been there for him. I can live with that loss.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
good
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think he was going to make it with us
Wasn’t he having Tommy John surgery or was just injured? Either way I’m fine with him gone I suppose
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
stands to reason
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
i assume so
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
This is the
article from Renck.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
A player has 5 days to report to his new team
usually they get there on the first plane.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
that's not a long trip
"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."
-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions
from Renck
“He’s excited about this opportunity,” Beimel’s agent, Joe Sroba, told The Denver Post. "It’s not like he was the last man standing. They tried to sign him in the offseason and have liked Joe for a long time.
“He’s anxious to be on a contending team again.”
Contending Team
is the key here. I’m liking our new bullpen
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
I'm hearing murmurs of Halladay to the Angels
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
Keep him out of the NL West (unless it's the Rox)
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
I feel like
the Rolen trade had something to do with a Halladay trade. Not directly but more in a “we’ve realized we’re not going to compete next year” kind of way…
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Look here
“Mark Saxon of the OC Register thinks an Angels trade may be in the works, with the Halos recalling catcher Bobby Wilson and infielder Sean Rodriguez despite one free roster spot.” (From MLBTraderumors) Erick Aybar may be gone….and he’s only going in a Halladay deal…..
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
who else is at work refreshing MLBtraderumors like a mad man
"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."
-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM MDT reply actions
Im at home
but still doing the same…
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
I'm not getting anything about Halladay
And I haven’t heard anything much lately about him either.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah that's me
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
So
What number is he going to wear?
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
I think 97 is available.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
Some kind words are due...
our GM and (gulp) our ownership.
O’Dowd is good. flat out. When I’ve doubted him (see Ramirez for De La Rosa) I’ve always had to eat crow. He fills needs smartly and doesn’t get taken. People have to reach back nearly a decade for a truly bad deal he’s made (Figgins in 2001). he does it all with budget restrictions that would choke most GMs. Extend his contract, I say.
As for the Monforts, they are ponying up for Bettancourt and beimel’s salaries in an effort to win now. I give them great credit for that.
yeah
our groundbreaking moves are …. well, they’re small, but significant
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I've never gotten down on DOD
And I’m proud to say that. I’ve always backed him, even when everybody said they wanted him out.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
If i had a drink
I’d drink to DOD
"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."
-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
And for some reason I’ve always wanted Beimel. He should be a great fit (sinkerballer at Coors).
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
a lot of that comes from his decent HR prevention
he’s relatively mediocre otherwise. This will free up Morales to attack more batters, I guess.
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
With this defense,
keep it in the ballpark and somebody will go get it.
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Ask me when we find out who the other guy is.
But I think it makes the team better.
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Agreed
And I don’t think the other guy is anything of importance. O’Dowd is not ignorant.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions
We still aren't even sure if Mattheus is one of the guys, keep in mind...
There’s nothing definite in Renck’s report.
"Fly ball, Right Field"
“It’s heading for the wall…Hawpe is running in the wrong direction…”
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
"Hawpe back to the wall...
“he hits his head against the wall… it’s rolling back towards the infield! This is a terrible thing for the Rockies!”
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When I read that
I totally pictured Hawpe’s head rolling back towards the infield.
That's a line from the great Jerry Coleman
voice of the Padres. He actually said that during a live game broadcast. Coleman used to have some great mishaps in the booth.
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UGH! Jerry Coleman....blech
I was listening to a broadcast last year..and he actually said Tulo needs to have someone teach him how to play shortstop with grace….My jaw dropped..
Coleman can take his star and hang it somewhere I won’t mentiont…grr..
i didnt see any mention of it in this thread yet
what do you guys think about boston getting vmart? talk about having to juggle lineups now with Vmart and Varitek at C, Ortiz, Vmart, and Lowell at DH, Vmart, Youkilis, and now Kotchman at 1b, and Lowell and Youkilis at 3b.
its clint hurdle’s lineup situation dream
Reynolds says it'll break up the chemistry.
And I usually agree with Harold..but not on this. I think the Red Sox got better.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Varitek is a 37 year old catcher
winning will fix any chemistry
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
truth
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Here Here!
"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."
-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Third
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
Still
I don’t think this is something that heals with time.
"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."
-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I also dislike the Boston Red Sox
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I grew up there
Still love the Sox. But… Before you start throwing rotten’ tomatoes at me:
I am a Rockies fan too.
*Throws rotten tomato*
Booooooooooooo
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
LIAH!!
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Now for the real test:
who’d you root for in 07?
ROCKIES!!!
Woot woot! Too bad we lost to cheaters.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
oh stop
we lost fair and square
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
They were juiced
That’s not fair and square.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh come on now
Matt Herges was in the Mitchell Report too. That means we were juiced.
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herges is a little different than Manny and Ortiz
although im not using it as an excuse and in all likelyhood there could be more rockies names on the list that havent come out yet
I'm just saying
We have as much evidence that the Rockies were ‘juiced’ (player on team linked to steroids) in the 2007 season as we do that the Red Sox were (player on team linked to steroids). It’s a really dumb line of thinking.
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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
wah wahhhhhhh
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by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
lol
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
8 day layoff beat us
The Red Sox just capitalized
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
I was in Boston during the dark times
Bucky ‘EFFING’ Dent, Bill Buckner. So you don’t just give up on the team you grew up with. But as a reference point, I was also a Mariners fan in the mid 90s when I lived there, before moving back to Denver
No, I completely understand.
I’m the same way. My second favorite team is the Phillies. There. I said it.
Don't worry
My second favorite team is the Yankees. My whole entire family roots for them, and I get caught up in it….
Don’t kill me….
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I have a friendly rivalry
With a guy at the office who’s a Yankees fan. It’s actually more fun when you’re not in the thick of it back east
Who cares about Boston?
They didn’t need him…..
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions
"need" is a strong word
He’ll help. They’re uncertain about Lowell’s ability to stay in the field, so if they need to slide Youkilis over, VMart can play 1st. Varitek is old and now he can share time with a guy who can actually hit. Then there’s 2010.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
They have Kotchman to play first now, and pretty damn well too
Kotchman, Youkilis, Pedroia, and Lowire/Green makes a sick infield defense. Varitek’s doing fine at catcher, Ortiz resurged, and they still have Lowell. Martinez makes them gluts for punishment.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
They're right around league avg offensively
So VMart will definitely help there. I’m sure they see this as much for the effect on 2010 as the rest of the year, too.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
What the hell do they do with Kotchmann now?
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
that was my thought too
I’m wondering if there was one more trade we hadn’t heard of
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Good question
He looks like he’s out of options and there’s prob a service time issue there anyway.
They may have to cut ties with the backup catcher (Kotteras) and hope someone volunteers to get in front of Wakefield when he returns.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Red Sox Got Better
This deal makes sense on several levels. Varitek is not the same threat he used to be, despite being one of the better “pitcher’s catchers” out there. So V-Mart is an upgrade offensively. You can DH him with Varitek behind the plate (benching Ortiz), and use him behind the plate to give Varitek a breather. With Varitek’s age, V-Mart takes over as starter moving forward
WOW
That kind of slipped under the radar, but you knew the Sox had the pieces to go get him.
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seriously
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Unbelievable!
But I kinda like the White Sox
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions
::blindside::
"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."
-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions
According to Joel Sherman
The teams agreed to let Peavy get traded off the DL.
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I first heard of this trade
Watching MLBN. When they announced the Rockies made a trade I went nuts. I got anxious and then they went to commercials. Haha it was ridiculous
Peavy really?
hmmmm, maybe Adrian Gonzalez is moving and Peavy said get me the heck outta here. Poor Padres…they are the WestCoast Pirates…kinda sad
except awesomer
and not football
so even awesomer than before
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
thank you
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I second this
I usually don’t say much about this topic but now seems like a good time to say
baseball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>football
in all aspects of everything
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
Have you ever heard George Carlin's take on baseball and football?
It’s astronomically and epicly phenomenal.
This
baseball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>football
in all aspects of everything
Needs more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
You may be right..
Maybe Peavy wanted out badly.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think he wanted out
so much as it is a rebuild and he knew he’d be pretty much irrelevant for the next 3 years
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Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions
You know the Padres have to be pretty bad
When it would make someone say, “You know what, get me the hell out of San Diego.”
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Halladay was not traded
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-Czech Proverb
by NewMexicanSteven on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM MDT reply actions
The Blue Jays insisted on Alan Johnson
but the Rockies are convinced he will be better than Halladay in three years tops.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
damn you
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
the Rockies wouldn't part with Alan Johnson.
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
apparently Bell for Kershaw is the word
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Words can not express how much I hate you
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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
there's more details in the link
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL!
Good one. I didn’t click it haha.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions
You may want to click that link.
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**** YOUR SOURCE LINK
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Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
READ AND LEARN PEOPLE
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I just realized that
blamb rhymes with damn. A new “Kruk” word around here?
there's more details in the link
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Hahahahhahahaahahha
When I first read the report on MLBTR it said one of the pitchers was Dexter..And I thought it was going to say FOWLER!! Lol
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Meet Joe Beimel
via the head of his fan club.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
lol
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Peavy is a White Sox
he approved the deal.
Poreda, Richard, Dexter Carter, and Adma Russell for Peavy.
What a stupid trade for the White Sox. Poreda is nasty and Richard was coming around, and Peavy is injured.
Yep totally agreed.
And Peavy is EXPENSIVE
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions
That is an incredible haul for the Padres.
I mean… wow. I could see that if a healthy Peavy were putting up Cy numbers right now… but for an injured Peavy?
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then there's that whole
his away numbers are kinda meh
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Sox got desperate?
Saw the Tigers make a move so they thought they needed to.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
this trade confuses me.
I mean, from the white sox perspective. What were they thinking?!
He's not even the best pitcher in the NL anymore
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions
That's
Jorge De la Rosa’s title now!
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
hahaahahahahahha
hahaahahahahahahaaha!!!!
wooooooooo
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Peavy is under contract for a couple more years
but why NOW, I don’t know. The White Sox actually lost a starter!
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
They just said on MLBN he has more years on his contract...
so he’ll be there for a while. How many more years on the contract? 2? 3?
I got nothing.
Peavy? Lots o'money and years left
Cots has: 10:$15M, 11:$16M, 12:$17M, 13:$22M club option w/$4M buyout)
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I'm a little late on this one.
YEAH!! WOOO BULLPEN HELP!
"There are only two important things in life: baseball and breathing. But at least you can survive without breathing for 3 minutes."
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nobody wanted their players.
They’re thinking they’ll get more in August when some teams are even more desperate.
do minor leaguers have to pass through waivers too?
if they are involved in the trades. or is it just people on the 40 man or even just the 25 man rosters that have to pass through waivers?
No
Because it’s like making a trade like today…if the Major leaguers passes through waivers I mean.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions
a lot of people wanted Qualls
but they wanted pretty high returns
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Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
When fifth starters are needed
turn to Doug Davis and Jon Garland
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions
i'm actually surpised
that the Cardinals didn’t try to get Garland or Davis. They think they need a 5th starter
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
They'd rather
try their luck with Lohse and Wellemeyer
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Lohse is already in there and Wellemeyer was demoted to the pen.
They are gonna try Mitch Boggs.
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Good point; they already have a pretty nice rotation too.
They could have been even scarier.
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
What are Beimel's stats
for this year and for his career? Was he actually a worthwhile acquisition?
He's been great the last few years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_stats_player.jsp?c_id=was&playerID=346847
The Rockies mulled signing him this offseason
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
He's been decent
He’s a good pickup, if properly utilized as a LOOGY.
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions
He was actually quite good last year
while on a team in contention. It seems more like he just lost motivation rather than get worse. How well would any great player do stuck on one of the worst teams ever? He should work in smoothly, especially since he is coming back to his old hangout, the NL West.
Not really a LOOGY though
Career splits are > lg avg, but not huge. That’s a plus for me, though, considering even LOOGY’s face lots of righties.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
you're right here
he’s just known as a LEFT HANDER, you know?
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Let's hope
we can keep him from hitting the bar solo if we make the playoffs…
Tonight's lineup posted:
LF Smith
2B Barmes
1B Helton
RF Hawpe
SS Tulowitzki
3B Stewart
C Iannetta
CF Gonzalez
P Cook
oh right, there's a game tonight
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
cook scratched
….FOR ROY HALLADAY
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions
By the looks of things,
Cook’s pitching against the Louisville Bats tonight.
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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
so true
"There are only two important things in life: baseball and breathing. But at least you can survive without breathing for 3 minutes."
www.soundclick.com/hollidayrain
by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Very, very nice lineup.
CarGo for Dex. Interesting!!!
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Ringolsby says the deal is Beimel for Mattheus
No mention of another piece going to Washington. Here’s the link.
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Hmmmmmm
IMHO, this seems like a loss for Washington
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions
well, it's a wash, sort of
they move some salary and woopty doo, they were awful anyhow.
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Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
They have a race
for the #1 pick. San Diego is closing ground. If the Nats sign Strasburg, they could also get the SI kid from Vegas!
Race to the bottom…..MLB network doesn’t cover that
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Good thing the Arizona D-Bags aren't far behind
They’re in the race for top pick, as well. He’d fit in well there.
definitely
But who knows really? Tyler Matzek is supposed to be a good kid too from what I’ve heard….hah
"There are only two important things in life: baseball and breathing. But at least you can survive without breathing for 3 minutes."
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought he was only supposed to graduate in 2011.
Either way, the Nationals will probably be set to have the number one pick at that point anyways….
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions
He got his GED and is going to be in junior college this year.
So he’s eligible for the 2010 draft.
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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1612ac7wCWE&feature=channel
HAHA, let’s get Dante!!!
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions
they get an injured reliever in return for one of their better, if not best, bullpen piece?
Mattheus is looking like he’ll never crack the majors at this point, and Beimel would’ve netted them a comp pick if he declined arbitration.
I still think it’s Mattheus + another minor league pitcher
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions
See below at MondoGarage's post
it’s Mattheus and Fabian
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Now this is a deal I can get behind
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Mattheus and Robinson Fabian
I have no idea who Fabian is, other than he had some hits about 50 years ago.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
scrolled on MLB network just now
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
Wow....
the Rockies just got a good lefty for their minor league crap. Fabian is terrible.
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
countdown to OhNo telling us we're wrong ;-)
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Fabian's not terrible...
He’s a live arm, over 90’s stuff, just very unlikely to refine his command to the point where he’s useful.
Wow, he's pretty bad
And 23, and still in Sally League. Player equivalent of a couple bags of balls and a pizza.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
Betancourt and Beimel
For Graham, Mattheus, and Fabian
Wonderful job on the bullpen, DOD.
/standing ovation
Good call...
basically what I said below.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
YEAH that's frikin' awesome
None of those guys fit into any of our plans. And we still have Jhoulys, Friedrich, etc etc
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Nationals-grade pitching
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions
On the radio, in 1958.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
It's obviously too early to REALLY tell,
but you’ve gotta hand it to O’Dowd for acquiring two solid bullpen options – SOMETHING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU WANTED – for a couple of fringe prospects and a guy who is terrible in a league that he’s too old for.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM MDT reply actions
Agree (w/muzia02, too).
Reasonable deal, even if those guys turn out to be something. The Rockies are really close, and I think it’s worth the risk to try to solidify this year’s position.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
None of them will probably be any better than the guys we traded for too.
Dan O’Dowd is proving his worth!
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions
This is what Peavy's agent said about the deal
“Frankly I am flabbergasted that the White Sox would want to make this deal with him in his physical condition,” Axelrod said.
He's already got the contract till 2013
And he got his client out of a terrible team.
He’s doing what everyone should be doing to the White Sox GM right now: cause him pain with words for the idiotic deal.
I wonder how White Sox fans are reacting right now
by bballrox4717 on Jul 31, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions
the reaction I'm seeing is
“God Dammit Kenny Williams”
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Aside from the picture of the guy committing suicide
SouthSideSox seems to be okay with the deal so far.
LOL
They are certainly taking it sportingly eh?
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions
With all of these Rockies Trades
I now have to change all of my baseball cards around. I keep any player that has ever played for the Rockies in my Colorado Rockies section (whether they are in a Rox uniform or not). Thanks DOD for making me work and look at my cards, it really is appreciated.
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JFK
But O'dowd Traded away MATT HOLLIDAY!
The Monforts, and the Rockies suck! They won’t ever win a game ever again!
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
HOW DARE THEY
THE MONFORTS ARE DESTROYING THE ROCKIES SELL THE TEAM TO KROENKE NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW THE ROCKIES ARE NOT COMMITTED TO WINNING
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Um..
Okay it’s kinda getting outta hand now.
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 31, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions
hahaha
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I would hope so
but since Daley and Morales have options left I wouldn’t know.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
I doubt it
Even if there were, a player with service time could refuse the assignment and become a FA instead. That’s how we ended up with him, Detroit wanted to send him to the minors and he refused.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I think that would be the best move.
I’ve had enough of Rincon and his nearly 7 ERA….
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 31, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions
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