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Rockies agree to terms with 35th round pick Tym Pearson?

In all of our Tyler Matzek focus, we've dropped the ball on other Rockies prep selections, notably the next best one left unsigned. I apologize because on August 5th, Oregon Live had this interview with Portland State Vikings coach Jerry Glanville. Here's the relevant part of the interview:

Then we signed a freshman quarterback (Pearson), and he got drafted as a baseball player, and he decided last week to go play baseball. We lost him as a freshman coming in, and we lost Tygue as a junior with experience, so all of a sudden our quarterback depth got shallow in a hurry.

This means that there's likely a deal in place with the Rockies with the athletic outfielder. Baseball America had this to say about him before the draft:

He's strong, is an average runner and has a strong arm reaching up to 90 mph off the mound.

which profiles well in right field.

This blog entry shortly after the above linked interview came out has a little more, apparently Pearson may have just chosen to attend a junior college and play baseball instead of choosing to sign with the Rockies. However, the silence with the media from Pearson still seems to indicate a pending contract.

I just want to update and emphasize that the question mark in the title should make it clear that this post is speculative and that we should know more about Pearson's status by tonight's deadline.

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better in RF or on the mound?

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 1:27 PM MDT reply actions  

The Rockies mus like him better in right,

I think most organizations do. He’s got a lot of power potential with his bat.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

where is this potential coming from if he's a 35th rounder?

Or was it a “yeah this guy is a top-10 rounder but he’s committed to football” situation

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's the latter...

His bonus will be much more in line with what we’d see in rounds 2 through 5.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Has that been the case with most of these absurdly over the top bonuses

that we’re seeing in the later rounds? I’ve been kind of watching, but not close enough to really get a feel for it.

How much of it do you think is “signing this guy for more because he was gonna go play cricket” or the like, and how much is “DFURRR HOW DO I MAKE DRAFT HELLO 18TH ROUND GUY HERE IS $1MILYON DOLARZ”?

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

two sport athletes actually get somewhat of an exemption from recommended

slots and always sign for a significant premium over guys that are baseball only. Jeff Samardzija’s insane bonus from the Cubs is an extreme example of this, but this has always been the case. John Elway got a nice bonus offer from the Yankees, IIRC, for example.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

.896 OPS in low-A Oneonta as well

Not bad at all

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

That would be a heck of a flyer pick if he makes it to the bigs

The last Rockies’ pick 35th or lower to make it to the bigs was Jesse Litsch in 2003. The last one to make it to the show with the Rockies was Darren Clarke, taken in 2000

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 1:40 PM MDT reply actions  

A's sign Max Stassi for $1.5MM

O’s sign Michael Ohlman for $995k

Brewers sign Kentrail Davis for $1.2M

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 1:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Miller to the Cards for $2.9M

Not the $3.25M number that was tossed about earlier.

by Muzia on Aug 17, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought the Rockies would not go above 1 million

and believe i got that word from a source. If so, he probably made himself an additional 300K, which isn’t what he was hoping for, but may have still made it worth it.

by David OhNo on Aug 17, 2009 6:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

hey read my Indy Ball vs College post at the bottom and lemme know how far off base I am

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't know, given the way he hit his freshman year,

And I know that with the butterfly effect you can’t really assume he would have had a similar breakout with Casper, but if he had, he would have at least been in Asheville this past season and Modesto next year. He’s probably going to start at Missoula next year for the Brewers, that quicker step to the big leagues makes up the $300K difference, and could be a more substantial difference down the road.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Assuming he starts at Missoula, which I would throw into doubt

He’s not going to play this year unless he is sent somewhere in a fall league (though I can’t remember if Hawaii is still playing off the top of my head). That would make his spring camp the determinant, and given his talent and the Brwers system, I would think he would start at Low A, which puts him only a year behind the traditional path (which is what the Rockies typically do).

by David OhNo on Aug 17, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry, my mistake, Helena, not Missoula.

Yeah, we’ll see what the Brewers do there, but my guess is that they give him some Pioneer League confidence to start his career and decide to promote him to Wisconsin or Beloit during the season from there.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Got a Twitter back from Law today. Said signs not looking good for Matzek… Obviously this isn’t anything terribly new, but it’s something.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 2:21 PM MDT reply actions  

"not looking good" is the safe default answer in the absence of new information,

I’m imagining he doesn’t know anymore than we do right now. I’m trying to get information if Matzek attended any classes today (Oregon has a summer session he’s apparently signed up for) because if so, it’s over and we’ll know for sure, but I haven’t received any confirmation on that.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

RG, if someone as perceptive as you

Thinks that Matzek taking classes would be game over, then wouldn’t it be the perfect tactic for the Matzek camp on the day of the deadline?

by biondino on Aug 17, 2009 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ah okay

I need to learn the rules!

by biondino on Aug 17, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't even know that rule

though it makes sense

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

What's the reasoning behind that rule?

I could understand if it was about practicing with the college team, but simply attending class? Or maybe it’s because they’re on scholarship and not paying for it themselves? But if that was the case, why would moving into the dorms not disqualify them?

by holly96 on Aug 17, 2009 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Attending class means that he is officially

at the university, which is, basically, as you state “on scholarship.” I thought the article about Matzek moving into an apartment in Eugene reported that it was not on campus and not tied to his scholarship. So if he signs with the Rockies, Matzek and Oregon are not in violation of any NCAA rules.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 17, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

he didn't move into dorms,

let’s get that straight because I think it was misreported that way by somebody along the way, but off campus housing. If he did move into a dorm, yes it would DQ him from a pro contract as well.

It looks like Russ answered the rest of the question.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Okay, that makes more sense.

I was still thinking dorms, so I didn’t see how moving into the dorms and attending classes would be any different.

by holly96 on Aug 17, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

well

It protects the school from taking a hit on their APR. It trying to keep from kids using schools and keeping the coaching staff honest with high caliber recruits.

by Jester76 on Aug 17, 2009 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rockies....

They sure do seem to like the football players—don’t they?

by DenverBears on Aug 17, 2009 2:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Particularly quarterbacks

Good thing Vick didn’t sign though

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

If he'd gone into baseball

He’d have become a pillar of the community, raising millions for charity and helping old ladies across the road.

by biondino on Aug 17, 2009 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

you know it

With a few exceptions, baseball brings out the best in people.

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Fair point

No way he would have gotten away with tomfoolery in the Rockies organization, especially since he had an easily moldable 20+ yo personality :)

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

No kidding

Imagine what a douche Lenny Dykstra would have been without the horsehide. Probably a full Madoff instead of a mini Madoff.

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by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Donovan Tate is in SD for a physical

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1646

They also signed their 2nd rounder

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 2:42 PM MDT reply actions  

Renck says still far apart...

I know this is probably old news, as Renck references a source from 11AM

Just talked to a National League source who said that as of 11 a.m. the sides were still far apart. That doesn’t mean the kid won’t sign, but that there is work to get done.

Has anybody heard if Matzek has even taken a physical yet with the Rockies? And if the lack thereof a physical could mean doom for signing him?

by bakerm on Aug 17, 2009 3:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Actually, not old news...

but not a change in status, either. As for a physical, I have not heard anything about whether the Rockies have or not. I know several other teams have taken care of the physicals of unsigned picks already this weekend, but I don’t know if that part is a necessary step before tonight’s deadline.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just shot an e-mail off to an old college friend who works as an adjunct professor at Oregon, asking if he’s registered for classes and, if he is registered for hers, begging her to add more coursework to make pro baseball seem more appealing.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahha

by that point, it’d be too late, but that is such a great idea

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

His roommate just signed.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4404422&name=mlb_draft

Not sure if this means anything, but seems like it’s relevant information.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 4:37 PM MDT reply actions  

It's at least partially relevant,

All the articles from Oregon have tied the two together, and it gives a little more incentive for Matzek to go pro as well. Plus, $700 a month is a lot harder to come up with than $350 when you aren’t signed a million dollar bonus. I wonder if Matzek’s going to make Marisnick pay his share anyway.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I suppose I just assumed the whole place is more corrupt than you do. I’m guessing — and this is just me throwing it out there, not putting accusations or anything — that Matzek isn’t paying a dime for his dorm. Or his food. Or his car. Or his gas. And I’m guessing his folks aren’t, either.

There’s a reason this kid’s so hellbent on turning down a pro deal and perhaps Phil Knight’s bank account is a tad lighter now… Maybe I’m wrong.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

sweet lovable Oregon?

Ha, everybody knows that USC is the only Pac-10 school with a professional program.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

actually off campus housing can be paid for by the athletic dept.

If his scholarship included “room” and they usually do, if the dorm is full, then the university can (and Is required to) come up with off campus housing and pay for it. What Okla. does is get 3 or 4 kids in an apartment, so it’s cheaper per head. Usually though this goes to the upper classmen, while the underclassmen and non-profit sports, like field hockey are the ones that get to fill the dorms up so the star upper classmen can live off campus.

Now as far as shady payments in major college athletics, as a graduate of the University of Oklahoma, I’m shocked…SHOCKED anyone would suggest such a thing.

by Redhawk on Aug 17, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

that last sentence

Represents the most pessimistic tone you have yet had towards matzek signing. Coincidence?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 4:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Me or her?

I’ve always been slightly pessimistic toward him signing and I’ve been even more pessimistic toward the NCAA for a long time. I’m assuming these big time athletes are getting more than tuition paid for, particularly at Oregon.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

no her

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 4:59 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Plus, that's one less offensive talent

that could try to lift their O out of the Pac 10 cellar. Not sure how much relevance that makes, but Oregon had a long way to go to put out a Pac 10 level offense, and Marisnick sure would have helped.

by David OhNo on Aug 17, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

good!!

That is good news!! The OU coach said he had his doubts that Jake Marisnick would stay at Oregon, but lets hope it is a sign from the baseball gods that Matzek is next.

by bakerm on Aug 17, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

It'd sure be nice

From a selfish standpoint, there’s a reasonable chance that Matzek would start off in Asheville next year, which would mean he’d be rolling through my town on more than one occasion. Chacin didn’t make a start here last year and I worked during Friedrich’s… It’d be nice to see a bonafide prospect pitch here.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, I feel like a creep. I’m paying way too much attention to 18-year-old college guys.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 4:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Rather than get warned for being ‘inappropriate’ once again, I’ll just choose not to respond. But my inner monologue is still laughing at my near-response.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know what you mean. I love prospect-watching, but then I realize I am trying to get information on an 18-year old moving into a college dorm.

by tulolgit2quit on Aug 17, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

but it might not be a dorm!

It’s an apartment!

Totally less creepy!

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about it

I mean, Jack McFarland does the same thing and he never felt creepy about it.

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by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

^5

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 5:00 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tate was a two sport athlete, third overall pick.

As we talked about above, two sport players always get considerably more than baseball only players, so that figure should have no bearing on Matzek’s bonus.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ah, okay

I’ve been wondering how other high school 1st rounders will affect the Matzek negotiations, since he was talked about being the best prep pitcher in this year’s class.

Who should we watch to see what will be the best comp to a future Matzek deal?

by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’d assume Shelby Miller is a good comp. Jacob Turner might be even better as he was taken a few picks ahead of ours, assuming he signs.

RG: Any particular site you’re using for info, or you just tapping sources?

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

A little of both,

Doing some intense Internet search and have sent some e-mails to try and ferret what I can from people who might know something. It’s been pretty quiet on the latter front this afternoon.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

btw, everything seems to indicate that he did not attend class today,

not that it means he’s going to sign, but there were still negotiations going on and that would have pretty much brought them to a halt.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well now he has to sign

I mean, he skipped class so he gets expelled, amirite?

Wishful thinking.

I still think if this is going to take a penny over $3.5m, he needs to just get his butt to class on time tomorrow.

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by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

NNNNN

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

At least it's still a ballgame!

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by FooMan on Aug 17, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

This whole thing is making me laugh, how on pins and needles we are.This is sadly my "game thread" for the week.

This is sadly my “game thread” for the week. I’m going down to SoCal to my grandparents house tomorrow until Sunday, and I highly doubt I will have internet access (unless one of their neighbors has unprotected wireless). So I’ll probably have to resort to just catching the scores each night or in the newspaper the next morning (luckily they do have tv and cable). What’s really annoying is that we play the Giants at the end of the week, so I will miss three of the few games all season that I could actually be watching. Sigh.

by holly96 on Aug 17, 2009 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll text you if you want

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eh, I'll be out and about mostly, anyway, and probably won't turn my phone on.

I’ll be able to find the scores every night. I’ll just miss following the actual course of the games.

But thanks for the offer!

by holly96 on Aug 17, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Shelby Miller signing supplies a baseline, Matzek should be above that...

The other three in the group are Zack Wheeler, Jake Turner and Matt Purke, if a bonus figure for any of those three gets announced, we should have a good idea of a ballpark figure that it would take.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t Purke announced? Or leaked? Could have sworn I saw something that said 2.4 was attached to him. I might be wrong.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m probably confusing him with someone else. Tough to differentiate after you’ve been reading all the stuff for a few weeks. All blends together.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 5:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

This whole process

isn’t altogether very interesting. It would be if we could be a fly on the wall for the negotiations, but just sitting here speculating and waiting around is lame. Baseball really needs to revamp the entire draft process. While the nature of the sport will never allow its draft/signing process to approach NFL/NBA interest levels, the present system is boring.

by Teekalong on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM MDT reply actions  

I just read something about the Rays' picks and was hoping someone could clarify.

One of their front office guys was commenting on their second round pick, who is expected to go to college. He said they knew they were either getting an incredible talent, or a similar pick in the 2010 draft.

So, if you don’t sign your draft pick, do you get a compensation pick in the next draft?

by RoxnSox09 on Aug 17, 2009 5:22 PM MDT reply actions  

Slotted after

the number they had this year.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 17, 2009 5:25 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep, if you don't sign your pick, you get

the pick after the same slot in the next year’s draft. So if Matzek fails to sign, the Rockies get the 12th pick in 2010.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

nope, that's why we shouldn't get too broken up about it.

There will be another big fish to go after next season.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, the year of lost development is a bummer, but MLB already does a good job of hindering development in the name of ‘keeping bonuses down’ even though bonuses are going to be at an all-time high anyway.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

So here's my question

Say Strasburg doesn’t sign. That means the Nats get #2 overall for Strasburg compensation. Do we get bumped back to #13? And then say Ackley doesn’t sign with Seattle. #14? SFG, Wheeler – down to #15?

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we mentioned this once before, but I also seem to remember no definitive answer

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exchanging phone numbers..

Perhaps someone should email Matt Harrington’s number to Matzek.

by roxhead on Aug 17, 2009 5:38 PM MDT reply actions  

very different situations

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Harrington had no college aspirations

he had to go pitch indy ball. then he tried again the next year, and then had to go pitch indy ball, lather, rinse, repeat.

Matzek might not sign, but then he has 3 years of education ahead, as well as a good pitching in coach (in what may not be a great program). So it’s not as if he’ll stagnate, he’ll be developing, just with a different program.

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

?

Harrington went back into the draft the very next year and his bargining power was shot because of poor performance and possible arm problems.

Matzek, being a pitcher, could have the exact same thing happen.

The scenario is only slightly different.

by roxhead on Aug 17, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

the difference is how good Indy Ball is for a young player

vs how good a college program is for a young player. He’s not losing as much leverage by going to college as he would if he had to play indy ball.

College will develop Matzek into a borderline A+/AA pitcher (I might be a bit liberal with that projection). Indy Ball is kind of stagnant, Harrington would be the same Rookie Ball pitcher he was when he started, MAYBE A- short season.

Teams want the HS pitchers because they’re full of raw talent and they can mold them and prepare them as they deem best. Indy ball would kind of start Harrington down a path the Rockies might not want, and trying to re-teach him might end up being counter productive, and while he might’ve been a 2/10 pitcher to start, he’d probably be a 2/8 pitcher after a year of Indy ball

Whereas Matzek might be a 2/10 pitcher right now, but coming out of college, he might be a 5/9 pitcher.

in summary, Indy Ball = stagnation, College = development

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sure

The problem with Indy ball as well is that the season starts so late that you’re really only going to get maybe five starts before the draft. It also puts much of the onus on the player to stay in physical condition and game ready, where often times a big time agent can help in this, but at the same time there isn’t the same college coaching, as well as strength and development. You have to consider a school like Oregon has world class weight facilities, as well as highly accomplished individuals in teaching and developing the proper physical attributes and work ethic.

by David OhNo on Aug 17, 2009 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the majors would prefer

their own dev systems to college or indy ball. It helps to have a coach with experience like Oregon, but some college programs concern MLB types due to the heavy pitcher workloads.

So I think the distinction in the summary is a bit too starkly drawn.

Also, wasn’t part of the issue with indy ball and Harrington that since it’s not seen as being as appealing to the player as a good college program, it decreased his leverage?

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by FooMan on Aug 17, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m saying Indy Ball will wreck your leverage, College ball will only somewhat decrease it.

Unless you are Stephen Strasburg.

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

To your first point

that’s obviously correct, but at the same time, if that’s not an option, I still would believe college is substantially better. There are only a handful of programs that are considered notorious pitcher abusers (Rice and Stanford the leaders) so I think that argument has to follow a case by case basis. Besides, I think if collegiate workloads were of major concern across the board, you’d see that reflected out in the draft more than you do now.

by David OhNo on Aug 17, 2009 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was wondering about Texas

They always had that rep, but I figured the coaching staff might have changed.

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by FooMan on Aug 17, 2009 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

They have the shiny beacon this year because of Wood

but they lack the notoriety of talent that has flamed out from workload related injuries. Plus, you could almost argue that outside of Wood, Garrido did a solid job managing his young freshmen Dicharry and Jungmann this year, while also keeping Workman relatively fresh.

by David OhNo on Aug 17, 2009 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

fair enough, but I know pro scouts avoid Texas starters

That reputation remains pretty strong with Augie’s program.

by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

We'll see what they say in two years

as part fo the problem is Texas hasn’t had one worth drafting high in a while, except for Kyle McCullough… who went in the first round.

by David OhNo on Aug 17, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good points

but 3 yrs of college vs. 1 yr of indy ball? I assume the teams would like to get these guys into their systems as young as they can.

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by FooMan on Aug 17, 2009 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well would you rather have a guy sit for 1 year, make like 5 starts

or exercise and pitch under legit supervision for 3?

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't know enough about the options

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by FooMan on Aug 17, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm assuming "competent to good" college program

and standard-issue stagnant indy ball

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, injury concerns don't really count

because the Rockies could break him as readily as the Ducks

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

The difference is

if the Rockies break him, they bought him.

by Junction Rox on Aug 17, 2009 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

true enough

But it’s not as if Oregon’s gonna go out of their way to break him either ;-)

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Different case. If Matzek chooses to go to Oregon, then he’s still in position to make some cash. This could be more of a Landon Powell or Robert Stock (sorry to rub that one in, RG) situation, though, where a kid was a high prospect out of HS and then, for whatever reason, isn’t as big of a prospect after college.

The only downside is the potential arm injury that comes from the inevitable overuse during the CWS (though, let’s be honest, he might never make the CWS). I don’t know what Horton’s track record is as a coach in terms of being pitcher friendly.

by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha I read that as

“A high school prospect out of high school” and was about to post DUHHHHHHHHH and then I put my reading comprehension goggles on

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is this the Matzek watch thread?

"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi

by nodakroxfan on Aug 17, 2009 6:21 PM MDT reply actions  

hells yes

I think he has a Casio

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

let's put it this way

it ain’t a rolex yet

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

ya you'd think phil knight

would hook those up

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by nodakroxfan on Aug 17, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Giving watches to a recuit is against NCAA rules!

That kind of stuff NEVER happens in college sports!

/sarcasm off.

This one would look cool on him:

by Redhawk on Aug 17, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

that's actually a bitchin' watch

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

My watch is big and square and makes phone calls

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Loser :P

I’m a with watches…like girls are with shoes

by Redhawk on Aug 17, 2009 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha

"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi

by nodakroxfan on Aug 17, 2009 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jeff Francis probably has that watch

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

It was his signing bonus.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Aug 17, 2009 6:53 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Woo hoo!

I sent the Renck link to MLBTR and they said “thanks for the tip”!

Thanks Rox Girl!

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