Tyler Matzek mojo changing overflow thread...
by Rox Girl on Aug 17, 2009 6:55 PM MDT
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At any rate, I wanted a new thread to centralize updates a little more, the latest of which is Troy Renck confirming that Matzek did not attend classes today, and that negotiations are ongoing.
Matzek's potential roommate, Jake Marisnick, has signed with Toronto, and as Renck mentions, Shelby Miller's signing with the Cardinals lays a baseline for the remaining high school pitchers.
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It's a press release, not press conference.
I would imagine it will come from their site, or someone like Renck might get it before they post it.
Had read "press conference" earlier in the day somewhere.
But you’re right, Renck refers to it as a press release.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Renck refers to it just as a "press release", and not a conference.
Hmmm.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Guess that answers my question.
Back to speculation!
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I tipped off MLBTR
I’m so cool
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This article from Baseball Prospectus is interesting.
Nothing specifically Matzek-related, and just this guys speculation about a shift in team philosophies, but interesting nonetheless. See his comments also.
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The only reason Michael Vick didn’t go to the University of Oregon is because if he killed all the dogs, there’d be no more women to hit on.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions
oh my, michael vick jokes
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions
You might consider erring on the side of caution
Given your sense of humor
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:18 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I made a very similar joke after he signed with Philadelphia (yeah, it’s come to that… I’m reusing material. Sue me) at my place of employment and nobody said boo. Sensitive ears around here.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Rockies blog, tiger
Nobody cares about vick here, and by extension, off color jokes about him.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
didn't we draft Vick?
Seems like it might actually be relevant, in a roundabout sort of way…
Fair enough
But the admonishment stands
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes they did
2000 draft 30th round as an outfielder.
I'm not sure
if this would be funny if Oregon wasn’t known for its beautiful girls…
Come on Matzek.
You know you want to go play up in Casper. Who doesn’t. We’ll come up and say hello if you want.
5 to 6 hours by car, I believe.
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Casper
Home of my favorite diner: Johnny J’s Diner. If their open-faced chili burger isn’t a selling point, well, I don’t know what is.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions
That would sound absolutely delcious
had I not had home-made pizza earlier.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions
I will so join that road trip
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:23 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes. We will all go up there
By the Way, if your reading this Tyler, if you sign, your invited down to Windsor (assuming you are playing up in Casper) for a few home brews from Poseidon and myself. We all know they are amazing.
Back when I lived there
Windsor had a restaurant that served Detroit-style Coneys. Still exist? On Main Street pretty close to the HS, I believe.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions
I've only lived here two weeks
So, I don’t know much of the town.
And I have no idea what a Detroit style coney is?
Detroit Coneys
It’s like a chili dog with onions.
by tulolgit2quit on Aug 17, 2009 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Ok
Doesn’t seem that special. But I might check it out. There isn’t anything to eat in this town really.
Are you in Detroit?
And if so, are you serious? I lived in Detroit last summer and always wished I had enough time to try all the food. Go to Dearborn, it’s home to the largest Arab-American population in the U.S., and, by proxy, some of the best Middle Eastern food in the U.S.
by tulolgit2quit on Aug 17, 2009 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh
I know a little bit less about Windsor, Colorado.
by tulolgit2quit on Aug 17, 2009 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm
from that area (Detroit). Lived in CO the bulk of my life, but all my family is out that way. Pops grew up right near 8 mile.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Just go south 10 minutes
Greeley has several great places, particularly for tasty Mexican food.
There also used to be a Mexican joint up in Windsor. Had a buddy who worked as a waiter there and he usually brought home food and booze from work. Don’t know the name of it, but they have some really nice tequila…
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions
I typically try to avoid Greeley as much as possible
I’m not sure why. I just do (other than the dugout store) I spend half my time in the Fort anyway.
I lived up there for about… Oh, 5 or 6 years. My second night in town was the worst night in terms of smell (lucky me). I probably truly felt the smell was bad less than 3 percent of the time. My roommate’s bathroom smelled worse than the town ever could…
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions
To be fair, I was there for 2-3 days for All-State Band
and I noticed it less by the end. But still…
I knew you were a bandie, but I didn't know you were that good
Congrats. I assume your HR enrollment was over 1100?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions
**HS
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
I made All-State my junior and senior years and made All-County every year (though I never did make the CU Honor Band, which bummed me out). My high school was about 1300 I think, so yes.
That means you made the legit top AS Band
I made it three times, but it was the “small school” group, for schools under 1100, so it wasn’t really All-State
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions
As related to this, trumpet
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Cool
I think my brother-in-law plays trumpet, and may have made All-State the same years as you. And my sister was probably there the same time as you for french horn. Though they both went to the same high school I did, so would have been in the symphonic band.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, you still got to be there.
That’s still pretty neat.
And we weren’t all cool kids. One year I was really glad when I got 2nd chair in my part and didn’t have to sit next to the annoying kid who got 4th chair. That was seriously my goal when we auditioned up there for chairs.
Go to band camp, you two.
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Is that an open invitation
for everyone to find the NY Times story I was in a few years ago?
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That depends on what it's about.
I could also go search for my favorite ever Sports Illustrated column.
I have a lot of lasting impressions
all negative. Smell, crime…
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Is it downtown?
There’s a nice Mexican place called Guadalajara, but I believe that’s new.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Can’t remember. I want to say the name was a female’s name or something… Maria’s or something.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Tortilla Marisa's
that closed down and has been replaced by a fancy Main St Grill, but the original TM is still in Fort Collins
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes. That was the place.
I’m getting a tad nostalgic for Northern CO again… Bummer.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions
The same family owned a steakhouse in FoCo that went under as well
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Also Golden
I’ll buy you beer or something.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:32 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
If a PurpleRow road-trip will motivate Matzek to sign...
I’m in.
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I’ll buy him a drink somewhere along the way.
by tulolgit2quit on Aug 17, 2009 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Let's remember he's 18
My brother is 18. This just got weird.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I was just going to ask if he's old enough to drink yet.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions
He is 4 years younger than me
And I’m spending my evening writing about him. Either thats weird or pathetic.
Nah
He’s a future Rockies All-Star. That’s why you’re writing about him. Now writing about some random 18 year-old you know of through your grocery store clerk would be weird or pathetic. Probably both. ;-)
I'll have another beer, please.
And let's be honest
We all wish that Purple Row were writing about us when we were 18.
by tulolgit2quit on Aug 17, 2009 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions
There's that, too
But the internet didn’t exist when I was 18. I will not take any further questions on the matter.
I'll have another beer, please.
He might be 18, but I’m guessing that won’t stop him from tipping a few high-balls.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Revised
I’ll buy him a pack of cigarettes.
by tulolgit2quit on Aug 17, 2009 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm guessing that the Rockies org will probably
want to keep him as far away from the Purple Row crowd as possible if they’re reading this thread.
Amen to that, Sister!
I’m currently in the throes of breaking my own nicotine addiction. Not easy after all these years.
I'll have another beer, please.
Jeez it's not fun
I’m not in quitting mode, but I’m getting there.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Toughest part is to not smoke while drinking or at work. Those are the only two times I ever want to smoke.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Oddly enough
It’s the work day that’s hardest for me. Been to bars, no problem. Mind you that no one can smoke in bars in CO any longer, but still, I’ve had an easier time while drinking than while at work. Weird.
I'll have another beer, please.
I live in the deep south. They practically hand you a Marlboro after the cut the cord.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Born and raised in NC
So I know what you mean. Even had a relative who was a tobacco farmer.
I'll have another beer, please.
I can only speak for myself, but I can tell you right now that smoking is an immediate turnoff for me.
So I would definitely encourage quitting.
(And don’t worry, it’s only when I’m around it in person. It doesn’t effect how I feel about online interactions.)
I only come out of cigarette retirement a couple times a year. I’m the Brett Favre of smokers.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Do you get obsessive coverage
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Oddly enough, Shelly Smith is camped outside my apartment right now. Probably just a coincidence… I live near a Krispy Kreme.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions
My...uh...former fiancée
Is asthmatic. You don’t need to tell me twice
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:01 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
This is probably no surprise to anyone, but Keith Law is on ESPNRadio right now
and said he’s hearing that the commissioners office is holding up a bunch of signings (probably more of the later 1st round or subsequent round picks) where deals are pretty much in place, so a slew of reports will come in during the last half hour before the deadline.
I'm betting that Pearson's deal is among those being held up.
A pretty good source is indicating that he will be announced tonight.
Probably not this year,
He’s sort of like Delta Cleary where we’d want to see how some of his raw tools translate before getting too excited. I really do hope this info is correct.
What source?
Cmon where you getting your info from?
Squeeeeeee!
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well...
It didn’t sound like this included any high 1st round picks. But it might, if they’re significantly over slot.
Let me have my thrills
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 7:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Matzek will be significantly overslot, any deal will be twice the 1.8 mill slot
Face it, we know nothing about what’s going on right now with the negotiations. For are we know, Law meant Matzek as well.
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
He could have.
And I can’t remember his exact wording now, but at the time my impression was that he wasn’t really referring to the top picks. But who knows.
Which hurts more
If he doesn’t sign does it hurt the long term future of the club (considering how hard it is to get a good starting pitcher)? Or does it hurt the perception that still prevails that the Rockies are cheap? (justified or not).
If he breaks the bank and signs and blows his arm out, that will hurt more than not signing him ever could.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Several years later
Not that $7MM for Matzek would equate to $121M for Hampton
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Welcome to Purple Row,
I’m not sure. Both problems you present could be remedied at the same time by the Rockies drafting and signing an expensive impact pitcher next year or even sooner in free agency. I don’t think either one hurts too terribly, particularly if the team goes onto the playoffs again this year.
Honestly, I think pitching-wise, this organization is in a lot better shape than folks around here are acting. Offensively, I’m struggling to find guys to peg as true impact bats up through the org. ladder.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you
Our pitching staff is strangely better than our offense for the first time ever, and there’s some legitimate pitching prospects on the farm. There are few impact power bats, at least among prospects knocking on the door.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I think there are a couple of decent bats, but I question whether they’ll be able to find a position in the bigs given the current roster and defensive liabilities.
This offseason could be a key one for DOD. It’d be nice if he flipped a few prospects.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I think we just want another ace pitching prospect
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree. Getting a potential No. 1 is tough. Ubaldo is the first we’ve ever had and I think even the most optimistic of us probably realize he’s bound to head to a bigger market when he’s a FA.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Well,
Morales was pegged as a future ace back in the day. Injuries and inconsistency have pushed those expectations back to a solid 3/4th guy or a very good set up guy.
Really?
I guess it depends on what you mean by “pegged.” While he has the stuff, he always showed control problems, so that sort of projection is surprising. Unless they meant he could be if he harnessed his control.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Luckily he signed for a good while or else I was just be depressed every time I saw his awesomeness. (sorry if I gush I saw him in person for the first time last week and my man crush was taken to a new level.
I don’t think enough was made about how tremendous of a deal that was for this team. In two years, he’s going to be a better value than any pitcher in the big leagues. That isn’t even hyperbole.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions
It was no guarantee to work out that way
Corpas would have been a great deal too if he remained in his 07 form as well.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I still like the idea of signing up the talent early like they did with Ubaldo, Tulo, and Corpas. Since younger players tend to be healthier and it has the possibility of saving a lot of money the last couple of years of the deal
They went *really* early with them, though
Pretty much after their 1st year. So there is some risk. But by giving them a little more early, it seems they’re able to buy out the arb and often the 1st FA year at quite a discount
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
It’s what we did with Helton, too.
It’s the only way a mid-to-small-market team can survive. Sign young guys for most of their prime, pay them more early to buy out a FA year and then let them walk. The Helton mistake came when they signed him for 79 years and $7.6 billion.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:23 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the strategy of super early singing worked. Next year we would have to pay Tulo and Ubaldo arb rates (yuck). Even if we would have let Corpas walk. I think we would have paid the other two more next year than we are going to pay all three.Then the numbers just get better for us the longer you get into these deals.
Yeah, it makes sense
since the high quality FA’s come at such a premium price.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
He's OPSing over .900
And is top notch at the back end of the groundout. We could be spending the money a lot worse.
Although I laughed at the figure you gave.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you mean Wells
Rios’s deal is a lot closer to Helton’s, in terms of whether it’s worth it or not
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He pretty much already is
I mean, sure, Lincecum provides more, but at $750,000 his season, Ubaldo’s value to pay is already pretty ridiculous.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Agreed
But I’d rather develop the arms and spend on the established bats whether they be free agents or resigning the bats we do develop. Basically because spending $10 million a year on a bat is a lot safer bet long-term than an arm. As for Matzek, I’ll probably be fine with it either way. If he doesn’t sign we get a simular pick in what might be a better draft. If he does sign (and it’s not a gawd awful amount of money), he has a very good chance of being a bargain in a few years.
So
Now I’m confused. OU Classes don’t start until September 29th. Was he taking summer classes. If not, I’m not too surprised he didn’t attend class ;)
I think so
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
ESPN’s Keith Law says he’s hearing "lots of reports of deals that are done, including “unsigned” first-rounders, whose contracts are being throttled by MLB to prevent other players/agents from using them as leverage." He expects there to be a flood of announcements from 11pm-12:30am ET tonight, so stay tuned.
I came off as a lot more mean than I anticipated. My bad.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I laughed
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Their win may sound impressive
but they shut down a horrid lineup, and all the runs they scored were off awful pitchers. It won’t make me lose sleep, especially since they are still in a horrid road trip and we get to end the last major one with the Nationals this week. :)
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, they split against the Mets at Citi Field
and now they have the Reds in Cincinnati, where I guess they take two out of three, whilst we should probably sweep the Nats. If we’re up 2 games by the Giants series, we’re in good shape.
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Sweeping the Nats on the road is no great cinch
They’ve played well under Riggelman in spite of their nameless rotation
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep, not as easy a task as one may think.
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by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions
The thing is with the Nats winning
is that most of their wins come from the fact that they smack the heck out of the other team’s pitchers. Their pitching has been somewhat better, but still suckish. The goal is to get quality starting pitching, and the rest will take care of itself, especially since we’re now road adjusted. Lets not also forget that the only winning team they beat was the Marlins (whom they won against by outslugging them): the rest of the teams they beat were the Dbacks, Pirates, and the Reds. The Braves beat the living daylights out of them, as they finally were faced with good pitching. Yes, they have been playing better ball, but that doesn’t mean they are a good team all of the sudden. If our pitching is bad like last series, then yeah, we’re not going to sweep them, but we have Jimenez and Marquis going for us. Hammel is the wildcard here in the series, and I expect a bounceback from him.
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I think we will play well...
as long as we put a good effort in and focus, we can win this series and possibly sweep.
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by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Don’t underestimate how badly Dusty is going to want to win those games. He will overmanage to the detriment of his team’s long-term outlook to beat the Giants.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Matt holliday just totally lazed a tricky fly ball into a double
All of our not hawpe not smith fielders get that fly ball.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:19 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Around 6 o'clock ET,
he gave four picks he didn’t think would sign and he didn’t include Matzek in that.
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That Gammons piece is so full of things inconsistent with what we otherwise know
That I wouldn’t give it much attention. I know for certain that Matzek hadn’t been signed when it came out.
It doesn't read to me like he saying there's conflicting reports that he has singed
but that there’s conflicting reports that he will sign before the deadline.
Peronally
I have a good feeling that we will. Just because it’s quite rare not to sign a high schooler.
I doubt it would run this late if he hadn't.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:44 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Which semantically, might be the same thing
the way the article reads.
If you believe Law
That may not be true. We don’t know whose contracts are sitting on Buds desk right now.
But it's definitely inconsistent with what we read from Detroit
About Turner and Oliver, who underwent physicals and are still talking with the club, for instance. I just don’t think it’s a very reliable article.
Well, Oliver was still talking...
signed for $1.495 million, which is a considerable upgrade from the straight $1 million Gammons said.
Is it?
Law is reporting that Oliver has signed.
Maybe
remember that Miller is the floor, and Matzek still has to weigh all the risks of school that he did ten minutes ago. Sometimes it’s not how high you can go, but how much you’re willing to walk away from.
And it's also possible a deal could be done or essentially done before
the Turner info was out there.
The major league contract is the biggie there.
They have to put him on the 40 man roster now, correct?
Wow, that's 2 now
As Porcello was also a high schooler with a ML contract
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
The Tigers, despite the fact that Detroit is turning into a wasteland, have no fear when it comes to spending money… I really wonder how that will impact the team long-term. That state is at like 20+% unemployed. That’s insane.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:04 PM MDT up reply actions
And their attendance has taken a heavy hit
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
It’s only just begun. I was just in Detroit a couple months ago. Every strip mall is bare and it seemed like 20 percent of the houses were for sale at ridiculous prices. Once the American automakers inevitably fail (because they have been failing for 20+ years), that state will be poorer than Mississippi.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions
There's little that's accurate about your post.
Anecdotes about these supposed bare strip malls aside…
The Tigers attendance is right in line with their 2006 season. One can’t forget that they’re only a handful of seasons removed from fielding one of the worst teams ever.
As such the season ticket install base is still low since it takes more than one season of hype to build that up. It was overinflated in 2007 because of the World Series hype and 2008 because of all the preseason predictions of Tigers greatness. After those letdowns, many season ticket holders of a more bandwagon persuasion bailed.
Gammons has lost his fastball. He’s still capable of getting outs, but he has to rely on guile and movement.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I find him to be senile and just more of an espn shill.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
True
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
You know
If you like reading about the red sox
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:57 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Keeping
MLB Network on, maybe Jonathan Mayo will have something.
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How good is that channel? I’m thinking about upgrading to get it, but not sure if it’s worth it.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions
The analysts are OK, but unbiased. They talk about every team, just sometimes they don't make sense.
Good channel though, they show live in games and on thursday/saturday show a game.
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 17, 2009 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Personally, I think "Quick Pitch"
is the best baseball show on television. It’s highlights with just the tv or radio announcers and not analysis. It’s great for just pure, HD, baseball. It’s the late night MLB Network show.
Agree 100%...
Nothing but highlights, mostly with accompanying TV feeds from both teams’ announcer, so you never have to watch ESPN again with its announcers trying to make their reputations with hip comments and other annoying banter. On MLB Network the game, not the announcer, is what it’s all about.
agreed.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I got DirectTv and subsequently MLB Network about 2 weeks ago
and I don’t think I have turned it to ESPN since. I love it. The analysis is way better and since it is dedicated to baseball they go much more in depth, especially on teams we don’t even see highlights of on ESPN (Rockies).
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Tigers signings currently
2nd and 6th rounders in the past 5 minutes
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Good thing the boys are off tonight
Hard to imagine a Game Thread and Matzek Signing Thread running concurrently. SBN asplode, I suspect.
I'll have another beer, please.
the row would be flooded with people
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Between the Row and MLBTR..
I haven’t had to go near the corporate abomination ESPN has become.
TGFPR!!
Bbr loads faster
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 8:57 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
True, however...
I’m not an “Insider” and anything worth knowing you can find a recap either at the Row or on MLBTR.
TGFPR!!
An Insider subscription gets you Buster Olney’s daily links, all Law and all Hollinger stuff. And the magazine, which has quickly been adding to its stable of writers.
Good deal, if you ask me.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
I've been an insider for awhile, and it's not very much.
I also like the college football previews, and a lot more. Although the magazine that shows up in my mailbox every week tends to get piled up around my apartment without me even looking at it.
Most of the info can be found for free
It’s not like they have a secret team there or something like that.
Well, I have long-lasting love for print media, so I’d much rather have the magazine in my hands. The layout/design is tremendous.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I’m not a huge fan of magazines. With the internet, I can get just about anything I need and I don’t end up with clutter (and I tend to have issues with tossing old magazines, so they tend to just pile up)
Every former Rocky employee just threw up and they don’t know why.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Heh
I have that latter issue as well. I think it’s because I always tell myself I’ll get around to reading them.
Put em in the bathroom and increase your carb intake.
Problem solved.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, we're certainly passing along the info.
But much of this info so far is coming from Keith Law from I can tell.
If this was 1980,
we wouldn’t even know who the Rockies selected outside of the first round. and maybe not even that.
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To that end...
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/draft/draft.jsp?year=1980
I’d thought, I’d’ve seen bigger names up top.
Okay, my full focus is on Tyler Matzek now.
Wow that was weird to say. But yeah just finished all my AP summer homework (school starts tomorrow, woot Ima be a senior!!!!!!) and it was a crapload. Come on FO, let’s get this deal in place.
Turner's deal is not as bad as Law made it sound, it's a $5.5 million contract
A $4.7 million bonus paid out over six years. Matzek should come in somewhere between that and Miller.
now they've changed the net MLB present value to around $5 million
It’s a tricky bit of work, it sounds like.
serenity now......serenity now
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
FWIW
My ceiling is $4.5 million that takes him through his arbitration years. Anything more than that and I think the dollars are better spent on international players and guys like Tym Pearson.
TGFPR!!
And odd,
but you only use odd numbers if you are lying.
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I’m not sure I’d want to go beyond double slot. Our draft class was pretty good this year and, with the Pearson signing, we’ve spent quite a lot already.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions
with Friedrich to
think about how that 1 2 3 would look
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and Chacin
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Rodgers
Struck out 9 in six innings tonight, giving up 3 ER’s. That’s 16 K’s in 12 innings his last 2 starts, against 4 BB’s. It looks like he’s starting to adjust to AAA. Top to bottom, the 5 you listed could be as good as anyone in a 4 or 5 years.
Eeeeeeeeeeee!
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
45 minutes,,,,
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Eeeeeeeeeeee!
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
good lord.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Matzek didn't attend voluntary conditioning workouts with the Ducks
As well as not attending summer school classes.
I think we’re going to get this done.
i dont believe it
if you're reading this, it means my undying support for your team will result in its failure.
by fantasyfencing on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I am not getting my hopes up.
But I really really want him to sign. He was the player I really wanted from the draft and I freaked out when we drafted him. This would be amazing. Our farm looks so much better with him in it.
Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:21 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
RMN
STOP making noices that I can misinterpret as excitement instead of suspense!!!!!!!!! haha
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Eeeeeeeeeeee is anxious anticipation
Squeeeeeeeeeeeee is excitement.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:25 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
ha
thanks for clarifying
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Well, that at least shows either he had every intention of signing if he got the offer he wanted.
That or he was trying to make it look that way, but I don’t know why he would do that.
Come on guys
If some think 3.5 would get it done, than do it. That isn’t anything that we can’t afford. Heck, I’ll even buy a beer next time I go to a game to help cover the cost.
Okay guys (and RG) can somebody explain this to me:
Okay third overall pick gets signed for $6.25 million. Shouldn’t Matzek sign for around $3mil then??
9th overall pick gets signed for $5 million plus.., riddle me that batman
It all depends on the player and the team and what both sides want or are willing to give up.
But you have to remember that the third guy could have gotten drafted to early
and Matzek just dropped because of the money.
In a more equitable world, maybe.
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by Russ Oates on Aug 17, 2009 9:24 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
You are allowed to sign for whatever you feel is fair. If you want to sign for slot, feel free. If you want to get paid what you would otherwise make on the open market, that’s your choice, too. It’s not like the NBA.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm drinking one of my homebrews
And It is amazing. So, I upped the % chance that he will take me up on my offer I made a while ago about giving him my homebrewed beer if he signs.
What’d ya make? What would it compare to?
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
A belgian dubble
I can’t really compare it to anything. But it is one of my early brews, so it isn’t perfect.
I’ll take eeeeeeeeeeee/squeeeeeeeeeeee
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:28 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Rally Cap Time?
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
If Matzek signs
are we likely to hear about it within the hour, or will the news trickle in after the deadline has passed?
It might trickle in a tad past midnight. If the team is in hard negotiations right now and gets him signed right at the deadline, it might take 15 minutes to type up the press release.
My guess is that he’s not signed and the release is ready to rock and roll.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
It depends.
They’re releasing a statement either way in 33 minutes. We could find out then, or another writer could break the story first.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks guys
I’m crossing my fingers for good news.
by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 17, 2009 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Which reminds me
What’s up with Ringolsby? InsideTheRockies hasn’t touched the Matzek subject much and hasn’t mentioned it today. He doesn’t write much on there, either.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions
I wish
Their advertisers were a little more “family friendly” and not the ads they have… I’m embarassed to have ITR up on the old work PC sometimes!
by Rox R Champs on Aug 17, 2009 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Download Adblock Plus for Firefox
It gets rid of almost all ads, and all saucy ones (in my experience).
man, I dug through this whole stupid thread for THAT?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 18, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Ringolsby writes for a lot of publications and does FSN work.
I’m not surprised he’s backed down from ITR recently. Etkin and Foster do well, though.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Could be, RG. If he didn’t have such a reputation, he’d have been picked up by the Post by now.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Huh?
Is that a joke about the Post, or is does Etkin have a bad rep?
I love how people are ripping Inside the Rockies for not providing updates. Maybe those guys have other jobs, or are enjoying a rare day off.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Clarification: I mean on the ITR comments section
Not PR
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
That's funny, isn't it?
It started out as mostly Ringolsby, then it was mostly Etkin in the first half of the season, and now it’s mostly Foster.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Best thing on that site: The quizzes they put up last week.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
I embarrassed myself with those due to my lack of Rockies knowledge before 2006.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
I was, uh, shall I say, more than a little inebriated and I managed 9 out of 10 on each. Damn you, Mark Mangum!
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Im back...
Getting nervous now. We have done all we can to make sure Tyler stays here. Word is he wants 4m. Earlier this afternoon, Rock’s were still stuck on 2. I’m here because this is a well run site and I’m sure you’ll be the first to know of his decision. If I hear anything up here, I will reciprocate.
thanks for the info
and have fun watching as we nervously await the decision
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welcome back... they've done a good job of keeping their cards close
It’s nerve wracking either way, believe me.
I don't know why
But this is more fun than a game thread anyhow.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
You’d like to think they knew it would take at least that going in… Though, 4 more than double the slot. I would hope they went into that pick thinking they could go over slot, though.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Wait a minute...
Did we forget to fill Matzek’s apartment with simulated $20 bills, to get him used to the idea?
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
If the Rockies wren't prepared to make their best offer 4 mil
before they drafted him, than this probably wasn’t the best avenue for the pick.
That said, I like our chances.
This is true...just think of that or even think of what Strasburg wants...
and this will all be put in perspective
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by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Has the newest Renck update been posted?
There’s no timestamp on his posts. It says that no deal is done yet, and it is likely to literally go right down to the wire.
Feels like there should be
an Airplane post every 5-10 minutes
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Looks like I picked the wrong night to quit sniffing glue
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Ha ha
I was thinking of the other one, but that works, too!
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Been up for a few hours.
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by Russ Oates on Aug 17, 2009 9:39 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It has?
WASHINGTON, DC –This much is certain. There’s no deal in place for Tyler Matzek. Calls have been exchanged throughout the evening between his reps and the Rockies. It’s becoming clear that Matzek’s going to have to be blown away to sign. That means possibly doubling the slot number of $1.8 million.
That one definitely wasn’t there hours ago.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 17, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I linked it here above at 11:02
so it probably was before 11:00
Oh, central time.
At least since 10
That’s when I believe I first saw it.
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by Russ Oates on Aug 17, 2009 9:46 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Going forward..........
I think this signing would be huge for the Rockies and the fan base in Colorado. We are in playoff contention, have up and coming players that should help us keep in contention for years to come still. Adding top notch talent like this, REGAURDLESS of how it works out, is in the best interest of all parties involved.
Fans like to see the team signing talent. Players like to see the ownersoing after talent and any free agents we bring in like to see that the team is being MAINTAINED to compete at the highest levels.
This signing would do all of that. And if it worked out the way it could it would only be all the bigger for the team…………..
I hope we get him in the fold.
99 percent of their paying fan base doesn’t know who he is.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't know that that's true...
A few people at work saw it in the paper or on the news and we’re talking about it.
I'd say 85% doesn't know
But sometimes all it takes is 15% of the hardcore true purple believers to get those other 85% of fans amped up about different things. After all isn’t that the job of those hard core nuts like us?
by cowboycr278 on Aug 17, 2009 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
True, but they don't have to
they just need to be told that ownership is spending money on top level talent in the draft and that helps.
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Read and learn people
This would definitely build faith in the organization
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Teams don’t make money off of the die-hard fans. They make their money off of the casual fan and that will never change. It’s why smart GMs like Jack Z in Seattle still have to do things like sign Ken Griffey Jr.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I could't disagree more
Hardcore fans are the ONLY reason the Rockies had the home crowd numbers we had when the times where so tough and this team was piss poor. The casual fans make the numbers look insane……..the hardcore fans keep teams afloat.
casual fans = maybe 5-10 games a year
hard core fans = as many games as they can afford
disagree
many come to the ballpark..just cause it’s a nice summer night. The fact that a game is going on is 2ndary to most fans. Most fans can barely pick out which side is the home team.
Plus your point above
The dedicated core can help foster a wider enthusiasm.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Your definitions there may be true
but the number of fans who attend 5-10 games a year far outweighs the others, so they become more important in comparison.
5-10 games sounds like a lot
I wonder how many people here see more than that?
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Yeah
I would say 5-10 or even less. There are tons of those fans, and they bring in a lot more money, I would think, than fans who attend more often.
They bring in the extra money
The guys that are there every night are kinda the “overhead income”.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
Sadly, I won't make 10 this year
due to a combination of minor surgery and lack of cash (see minor surgery). However, in a good year, I’ll be at the park 10-12 times a season.
I'll have another beer, please.
Griffey type signings
Absolutely I agree that teams make that type of signing to entice the casual fan to have more of an interest. NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT.
That said how many of us in here are guilty of having too much faith in the front office over the years and trying to overhype moves like Jay Payton or Jamey Carroll???
Hard core fans will buy tickets regaurdless, causal fans are enticed. But have no doubt the hard core fans that buy season tickets are THE MOST important fans for any team.
yeah, but putting great talent on the field and winning solves those problems
Griffey brings in a few fans for a short time, but winning keeps ’em coming back for more.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Absolutely
But after Reynolds over Longoria and Lincecum (I know, hindsight, but I’m speaking as a casual fan, kind of), saying we ponied up for the best talent available will at least build some faith in the organization.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I was hoping they'd wait for a reliever
to blow the lead. I’m rootin for the knuckleballer.
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Could he be signed
and it just hasnt been leaked
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Possible, but unlikely in this era of constant news.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
It's impossible to tell
There are a lot of picks still unsigned. I would imagine a lot are done, and not yet released.
the Molinas are like a traveling circus act.
Watch opposing baserunners steal at will!
Watch their bats magically DISSAPPEAR!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
News has been dead for an hour
but I wonder if people are concentrating their time efforting sources closer to Strasburg, Ackley, etc. Quite a bit left to cover for the national guys.
There hasn't been much of anything on them either
I think the league is just being incredibly tight lipped about everything.
Which pays off
Zack Wheeler at 3.3 mill
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
If only the draft played out how it was predicted and the O’s gone with Wheeler, leaving Matzek for the Giants and Hobgood for us.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Is matzek better than wheeler?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
just got in
Go Cardinals and padres…thanks a lot mets and dbags today
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!
and oh yeah
sign the kidd
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!
I have a feeling
this will be a bigger let down than prom night.
by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Aug 17, 2009 9:49 PM MDT reply actions
This is fun
Mike McCoy Status: BETTER BE A SEPT CALLUP
Seth Smith Status: Part of a Good Problem
Chris Iannetta Status: OH MY GOD GET SOME HITS YOU'RE MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Eeeeeeeeeeee
Mike McCoy Status: BETTER BE A SEPT CALLUP
Seth Smith Status: Part of a Good Problem
Chris Iannetta Status: OH MY GOD GET SOME HITS YOU'RE MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
When is it considered "done"?
Like, faxed signatures on a page, or it’s 11:59 and Matzek’s agent says “Okay, we’ll take it”?
"Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball." -Pete Hamill
If it's done, pretty amazing there's no leaks in that process.
"Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball." -Pete Hamill
As one who spent
this entire weekend waiting around for faxes (from Austria, no less) I sincerely hope that faxing has no role in this process.
Elaine Dickinson: You got a letter from headquarters this morning.
Ted Striker: What is it?
Elaine Dickinson: It’s a big building where generals meet, but that’s not importan
6 Minutes
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 9:54 PM MDT reply actions
3 minutes
if you're reading this, it means my undying support for your team will result in its failure.
by fantasyfencing on Aug 17, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Come on Come on comeoncomeoncomeon
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 17, 2009 9:55 PM MDT reply actions
Come on come on
Mike McCoy Status: BETTER BE A SEPT CALLUP
Seth Smith Status: Part of a Good Problem
Chris Iannetta Status: OH MY GOD GET SOME HITS YOU'RE MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 9:56 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Don't fret when the deadline goes down...
Kevin Goldstein says we won’t officially know until 20 minutes after deadline.
I got nothing.
I don't think I've ever used to Twitter in my life besides from today
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Which makes sense
otherwise, you’d have to believe a lot of teams came up short
This will relieve everyone
As we hit the five minute mark . . . A friendly reminder that we won’t know everything for another 20 minutes or more after the deadline.less than a minute ago from TweetDeck
Goldstein
roflpwnd
if you're reading this, it means my undying support for your team will result in its failure.
by fantasyfencing on Aug 17, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
the waiting lingering on doesn't comfort me...
all that much
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Elaine, you're a member of this crew, can you face some unpleasant facts?
No.
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:57 PM MDT reply actions
come on kid
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
They had a choice: Fish or Steak
Ah yes, I remember. I had the lasagna.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
YES!
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
He had that fucker ready to go. Excuse the language, but the Cowboy killed Renck.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
HELL YES!
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll be damned
I didn’t think it would really happen.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
O BABY
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM MDT reply actions
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IT HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM MDT reply actions
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
And it is not a ML contract
which is nice.
by realmenwearpurple on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM MDT reply actions
I am so happy/relieved
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
The Rockpile will be a sweet, sweet deal tomorrow.
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM MDT reply actions
something to read at work!
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
by nodakroxfan on Aug 17, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions
YAY...a happy ending
unlike prom night.
by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Aug 17, 2009 10:00 PM MDT reply actions
Well done
O’Dowd. I give full credit where its due here, the man got it done. Welcome aboard, kid. Its a great franchise. Time to start earning that money…
Purple Row Powers Combined!
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 10:00 PM MDT reply actions
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 17, 2009 10:01 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Depending on whether Chacin is still in the minors, he very well might be No. 1.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Chacin isn't in the photo
Matzek or Friedrich
Then Matzek for me. The real test will be whether he has the velo he had in the state playoffs or the velo from the regular season. If he’s hitting 95-96 like Law reported, watch out.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Didn't say he wasn't, but he's not as good as the top two
I’ll try and do a bigger fanpost on Matzek tomorrow to help everyone in making their decision as to where he slots, I’m sure most will find him number one, which is where he’ll be on mine.
I look forward to it,
I think he’s #1 on mine as well, but Friedrich has made a very good case for himself this season.
I have some visual aides too!
though I’m sure you’ve probably seen them by now…
If Chacin is still on there
then Matzek gets bronze from me. I want to see how he performs first.
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
We'll discuss this in Purp Discussion threads more
but I want to read a better argument than that for not ranking him high.
But again, we’ll discuss this later.
Agreed, I'll explain later
The fact that we are arguing about who’s the best pitching prospect about 3 legit top 50 prospects is just amazing.
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Is Friedrich really that good?
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
The numbers don't lie.
Go check them out, I’m too lazy to link them. He’s been incredible.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Aug 17, 2009 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I know he's having a great year
I’ve just always had a really uneasy feeling about the guy.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
If it weren't for his sore elbow
he would be destroying Double A right now
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
No accounting for that, I guess.
But, yeah, bad command the other night aside, he’s ripped through the Cal League and has absurd K/9 and K/BB ratios. The performance says you should feel much differently.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Aug 17, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
At that level of ball, I still like to hear about scouting reports
well, actually at AA and AAA, too. So I hope those get reviewed in the Purps threads, because I don’t remember what was said about Friedrich when drafted.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
The curveball and command he has at times is just unbelieveable
How he slipped to 25 come draft day last year doesn’t make sense. He doesn’t have as high of upside as Matzek, but right now he’s better
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
He might just be number one.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Aug 17, 2009 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Wooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!
by Russ Oates on Aug 17, 2009 10:01 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I gotta say
O’Dowd has really impressed me this season.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
extend him!
RIGHT NOW!
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
huge signing
oh wow I am stoked over this!!!
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 10:02 PM MDT reply actions
Extatic or however that is spelt
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
WOOOOOW
GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 17, 2009 10:02 PM MDT reply actions
well, not so wrong
They had to trade Tulo to free up the money.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
mmmm power lefty
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Where will he be assigned?
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Probably Asheville next year
don’t look for him to play this year.
I would assume Casper, but the season’s about over… Not sure what they’ll do.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Two people smarter than me got it before me.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
what it is blood?
The Rockies need some oldschool purple/white striped high socks. The team’s problem is it’s lack of swagger. I feel strongly that these socks will provide the swagger necessary to tap the potential that are the Rockies.
Wow
If there was ever a time for a “+1” for team management….
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
I included them in "Team management" in my mind
but I didn’t specify. All kinds of kudos to the much-maligned-money-spenders for ponying up and getting it done.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
he was #2
- is almost double that at ~15 they say (if he signs)
by realmenwearpurple on Aug 17, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Jesused.
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 17, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
whoa.
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Great deal.....
but I hope they don’t rush him. The expectations will be huge for the kid.
Some love for Charlie & Dick
Between coming up with the extra dough for Bettancourt & beimel, and now this — for the first time they’ve really showed me they’re committed to winning.
Hats off to the Brothers Monfort.
Agreed.
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 17, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I’ve been more critical of the Monforts than most people (while working at my campus paper, I was part of a lawsuit against Dick, who was the chairman of the board of trustees at the time). I will absolutely hand it to them, as well as O’Dowd for having the balls to make the pick.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
you already know but...
my scout buddy confirms the deal
good luck next year, I've always liked oregon
sorry that your lose is our gain
"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
by nodakroxfan on Aug 17, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I am all for this!
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Purple Row meetup time!
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
holy jeezus,
thats alot.
"Good is not good when better is expected." -Vin Scully
Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 17, 2009 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
He’s really, really, really good.
If he were Japanese, he’d have fetched a helluva lot more than that.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
.67
Seems like an odd number to settle at.
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Should we expect to face him tomorrow?
Ok, maybe Thursday would be more realistic… ;)
by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 17, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Deadline signees don't usually play in same year
but Strasburg would have a chance if Washington wants to take him all the way to the big club. Otherwise, he’s someone to watch next year.
haha
seriously though, i wouldn’t be surprised at all if he pitched for the big club before the season’s over
by Narcoleptico on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
From Heyman on Twitter
“strasburg appears to be close to agreeing to a deal for $15 mil, sources say”
wow
Just wow. Wow wow wow.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 10:09 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
wow
Just wow. Wow wow wow.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 17, 2009 10:09 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Actually worth posting twice.
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I was hoping that Matzek would come to Oregon
but, congrats. Hope he works out well for you
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
That was stressful,
Best of luck to Horton to continue to rebuild that program to you guys as well. May karma return you a few recruiting wins in the future.
Me neither
But that’s only because of Diante Jackson -_ -
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Ah, Diante Jackson
The Buffs could sure use him now with Simas’ issues and Simmons stuck in limbo at the moment.
by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 17, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Indeed.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Marquis won't be back next year
Not a chance. He’ll get at least what he’s getting this year.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
This offseason will be a different game for Free Agents
given the economy. Lots of teams are hurting.
that’s not saying the Rockies could be a player for Marquis though
Eh, I won't believe that 'til I see it
This offseason was supposedly a bad one, yet the Yankees gave $400M to 4 guys. I won’t believe that money will go down until I see it happen.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
This offseason was bad for the 2nd tier guys
The premium guys like Holliday will still do well. Esp. since there’s so few of them in this off-season’s crop
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Marquis might actually be reasonable in his demands
By all accounts, he truly enjoys playing with this club, and he’s revitalized his career here, and we pursued him in 2006. I wouldn’t necessarily throw a blanket “no way” over our chances of re-signing him.
As much as money, a lot will depend on what the team sees as it’s rotation in 2011, because he definitely won’t take a one year deal.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
What's reasonable?
Even with a down economy, he’s going to look for something close to his last contract.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Yes, I agree, and three years at $9m per for his performance would be fair
I just don’t see the Rox offering three years, based on their future prospects. If he’d take 2 years at $17-18m, the Rox may actually bite. Dude could still end up winning 20 this year.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't see him getting that
he’s had one great year, and 2 ok/good, not great ones. He’s also 3 years older.
I think he’ll be at 3 years 6 million per or so.
He's older, he's not old.
What is he, 32/33 tops? No, he’ll get much much more than $6m per.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
If his agent settles for that before February
He should be shot. It’s not like Marquis was a star when he signed his current deal. Guys who can stay in a rotation all year and be decent are worth quite a bit.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I'm telling everyone now
besides the top 8 teams, budgets and payroll will be tight this year. I see more teams going younger, and building from within, like the Rockies, Twins and Rays.
So, with small budgets will come smaller contracts.
so what makes you think one of the top 8 won't be interested in marquis?
those teams are always looking for starting pitching and are always willing to pay out the ass for it.
by Narcoleptico on Aug 17, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
that is the catch
but even they might start figure out they are competing/bidding against themselves.
If the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers will stay out…I think Marquis will slide to the middle class teams (which the Rockies are one of)
Now why would the Dodgers stay out?
More to the point, why would the Mets stay out?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
well ultimately
those teams can have only SO many starting pitching. The Mets are stupid…so…it could happen.
You think the Mets would be "stupid"
To sign a proven innings eater after a 16-18 win season with a 3.60 ERA in Coors Field?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions
yes
they love Oliver Perez and gave him a ton of money…
Personally I think the Mets are one of the worst run clubs in baseball….they just have a lot of money to cover up stupid
It's possible, but I doubt he'll slip that far
Teams are still trying to win. So that’s why I think his agent would be nuts if went for that low a dollar amount before Feb.
We’ll see how the Rockies read it after the season. If they offer him arb, it probably means they don’t think the market will be as bad as you think (or think they can afford the $10+ million he’d win in arb should he accept).
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
We'll see.
If the season ended today, he could ask for 10 million on the market, and probably get it.
I doubt they would be in on either guy
regardless.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Probably not as much as whether or not we make a deep playoff run will affect those chances
I don’t see us going after O-Dog under either scenario, though.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
$15.67m 4 year major league deal
Wow, didn’t even buy out all his arbitration.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
Don’t think they could have.
Will he pitch this season?
by LawrenceDavis on Aug 17, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Or most likely any of it, right?
That’s a 4 year deal that starts this year (or next year?), whereas his actual service time clock doesn’t start until he’s added to the active roster.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Ssshhhh.
Every franchise has their secrets ^ _ ^
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey, hey
If I know anything, I’m not saying.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
and it was his hand that touched home in 2007
by realmenwearpurple on Aug 17, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Good for the Nats...
that franchise would have been in deep trouble if they hadn’t signed Strasburg. I’m happy for their fans, who haven’t had a damn thing to cheer about.
Especially
with Jordan Zimmerman and his TJ surgery….I’m glad they signed the guy. They deserve SOMETHING good to happen.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow, wow, wow
Go to walk the dog, and look what happens. YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaah! Nice work, Rox. This should quiet the “Monforts are cheap bastards” Denver Post comments for a day or so. Well, maybe. You never know about those folks.
I'll have another beer, please.
There's no accounting for DP commenting idjits
But seriously, yes, given all of the efforts the Monforts have made since the All Star break, this should shut up any complaining until next ASB. If they don’t resign Marquis because he wants three years and the Rox see an entirely different rotation in two years, that’s a baseball decision, not a penny pinching decision.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Idjits
One of my favorite words. Even it’s not really a word. Down south, it’s almost abbreviated: igits. All means the same, however. Happy that someone else in these parts knows the term.
I'll have another beer, please.
Well I am from Austin...
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, this certainly makes my day
I didn’t think it would happen. Kudos to the entire organization, and I can’t wait to see the kid pitch.
I find myself looking forward to tomorrow’s Rockpile.
"Speak softly and carry a big (hockey) stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
Right now...
Mark Kiszla is desperately seeking an angle about how this reflects badly on the cheap monforts and how we shouldn’t have “dumped” Holliday.
I can see it now from Kizsla
Why didn’t we throw the money at him the day after the draft so he could progress this year!
It’s called negotiations, dude. :P
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
YESSSS!!!!
I wake up from a early evening nap to find out the ROCKIES HAVE SIGNED MATZEK?!?!?!? yesssss!!!
Kudos to the Rockies front office, and the kid for realizing the money is there and he can’t turn it away…
and kudos to the Nationals and Strasburg… that could’ve been ugly
i just hope he's worth it
if you're reading this, it means my undying support for your team will result in its failure.
by fantasyfencing on Aug 17, 2009 10:15 PM MDT reply actions
it doesn't take a whole lot for a baseball player to be worth 3.9 million
i wouldn’t worry too much about it. and even if he breaks his arm before throwing a pitch, hey, it’s not your money.
by Narcoleptico on Aug 17, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Too early to tell in the final analysis...
but on paper, is this the best draft in the O’Dowd Era?
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Dunno about that, but...
but on paper, is this the best draft year in the O’Dowd Era?
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by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Seems like it
this is quite the haul, and one of my favorite picks, Stavert, has yet to start pitching
He's and Oregon dude too, I think
How come he hasn’t pitched yet?
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
No other news about other signings
And it looks like we didn’t get the late rounder we were talking about before (I forget his name)
With the big names being signed
I wouldn’t be too surprised if the lower round guys are never actually reported by the press.
Aaron Crow hasn't signed, but he has a different deadline
It looks like the two not signs are Purke and Washington.
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Yup
I’m trying to find the whole list of 1st rounders who signed….
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Found it
Yeah, the only 1st rounders who haven’t signed are Purke, Washington, and Crow.
by bballrox4717 on Aug 17, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
This was a crazy good draft
We got a top of the rotation, closer, and speedy outfielder who can hit (all potentially) before we even got to the 2nd round.
Beat me to it, yahhh! A good night
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Unfortunately, the Mets’ epic fail kept us from a sweep of the day
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by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Now that would be a perfect night
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Cards beat Dodgers 3-2!!
A great night to be a Rockies’ fan…
Let me just say
Every day is a great day to be a Rockies fan.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 17, 2009 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
+1
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 17, 2009 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions
this.
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by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 17, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
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