Rockies 1, Dodgers 6: Rockies stop streakin' as Randy Wolf quiets the bats
by Russ Oates on Aug 26, 2009 9:46 PM MDT
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PrintLet's face it. We knew those good vibrations the Rockies had recently were going to end, and that they did tonight. Josh Fogg didn't live up to his 2007 namesake; rather, he pitched more like the guy Purple Row groaned and moaned about in 2006 (all right, that was mostly me since we only had ~20 members then). He allowed six runs on three homers, in addition to walking four.
But, uh, Juan Rincon was awesome tonight! Yeah, I didn't expect to type that tonight.
There was a whole lot of nothing for the Rockies' offense tonight outside of Ryan Spilborghs' third-inning home run (8). Eric Young Jr. had two hits, but he was caught stealing again on a basepath blunder.
Oh well, they'll get the Dodgers tomorrow afternoon.
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How many members are there now?
is there a way to check that?
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That's been turned off for us
due to some reason, but I can do it by finding out how many pages there are times how many are on each page. I estimate over 650 by now with maybe 100 really active here.
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"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - this greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
by nodakroxfan on Aug 26, 2009 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Slightly off topic
But this is my only stop for Rockies information and analysis now. I check the page 5 or 6 times a day on a game day and 2 or 3 on an off day. You all are doing a fantastic job.
thank you
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
This and Rockiescast on my ipod.
I have been with those guys from day 1…for better or worse, they are fun. I told you before RMN, but I never knew about PR before I heard you on Rockiescast.
awesome
I just was at the game with Scott
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
That is cool
The wife is from DC so we are going to time our annual trip next year with the Nats road series…hopefully we can meet up with the crew there.
yeah, prayers for Ted by the way
medical concerns prevented him from visiting
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay, this is just goofy in a "small world" sorta way
Totally random, but I know you’re in Austin, and okay, your wife’s from DC.
I’m from Austin, and met my wife in DC, where we each lived for about ten years until moving here.
Okay, not a microscopic world, but a small one….
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Randy Wolf? puh-leaze
he is obviously not worthy of the Dragonslayer’s best stuff.
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Poor Fogg..
I’m watching his postgame interview right now. He’s being a man about it, but there’s just so many ways you can answer the same question. He’s one of the good guys.
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I don't know, but he won't be the answer in the rotation.
Someone else will be replacing him after callups.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 27, 2009 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't see the team sending him down
Perhaps if we weren’t so close to September callups, but he has been a serviceable long reliever, and no reason to believe he can’t be next month. I doubt you see him on a post-season roster, but I’m pretty sure he’ll be with the club all next month.
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I really like him for some reason, totally independant of performance.
He just seems like a great guy, and his teammates always seem to really like him. Sad panda.
Very sad panda.. :(
I agree with everything you said. I hope this doesn’t hurt his confidence, or status in the clubhouse…I was hoping he’d get a little more run support…
exactly we saved the pen today
and it wasn’t a heart breaking loss we all kind of expected this tonight…we shall win the series tomorrow
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 26, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is very correct.
Despite losing by 5, it didn’t feel like a blow out. We all expected this to be our toughest game. We all needed a break: The team, the pen, and the fans. Let’s not hold anything back tomorrow!!!
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It felt like we got solidly beaten
but not a laugher
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree, it could have been much worse.
No one got hurt. The bullpen is mostly intact. JDLR is pitching tomorrow. Life is good.
Oh well.
That’s pretty much how I feel about this game. We weren’t going to win every single game, and I just can’t get too worked up about this loss. That’s why we play again tomorrow!
That's the problem with a losing history
and a winning team. You get upset at every loss and think for a split second “Well back to this again”
and then you realize that we were all expecting to lose this game anyhow.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
HEY speak for yourself
I expect the Rockies to win every game!
BUT….I really wanted and hoped for 2 out of these 3 games giving the injuries. Tommorow is the one where the Rockies actually have the starting pitching edge, so 2 out of the 3 is still doable.
Oh…and my man EY2 had 2 hits! Go Deuce! (my new nickname for EY2…like it?)
EY sure did have 2 hits
and I sure hope he learns how to steal off of major league pitchers sometime soon
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions
oh I'm still psyched for his potential
slapping 3 hits in 2 games, not bad at all. I think they should shut his running down for a little bit and let him get the feel of a base that isn’t 1B first, as in let his supporting cast drive him along.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Sooo
does Chacin get the call up for Fogger’s next start? Why not Rogers (is he on the 40 man?)
Tracy really avoided that question in the presser.
He said “ask me tomorrow or the next day. I don’t know right now.”
The FSN guys noted the offday Monday
So they could also skip the spot until the Arizona series the weekend of the 4th.
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I might do that
skip the spot and deal with it when we have to. I don’t think Fogg has more than 40-50 pitches now. And with his velocity the second time through
Dagger
4-3 Giants off a Molina 3-run homer.
oh that just sucks
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Well.
That wasn’t quite as much fun as the previous two games.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
Not much fun, but...
very few of us honestly thought we were going to win this one. I don’t think many of us felt like it would be pretty much over so early, but Rincon did yeoman’s work saving the rest of the pen.
So we simply move on.
Tomorrow afternoon, GO ROCKIES!!!!
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foggers next start would be on august 31st
which is an off day.
i’d skip the hole in the rotation and just go right on with the top 4.
They mentioned that in the post game,
I bet Tracy would go for that.
makes perfect sense
ubaldo, marquis, hammel and hip hip all seem healthy and strong – they don’t need the extra day’s rest that i can see – put the hammer down in that last LONG homestand.
we draw San Fran’s best when we head out there – Lincecum, Zito and Cain, coming out of that, we may not have much room to spare.
hmm, i think hip hip needs to bring his A game tomorrow – be nice to get an early lead for him so he doesn’t have to fight the mental pressures…
by RockyMtnCat on Aug 26, 2009 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions
the concern is that DLR and Hammel are heading into uncharted waters
in terms of IP
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions
always true
but they are both at an age where you shouldn’t have to worry much about that…. old enough to have built up their arm strength, but not so old that they have begun to wear down.
i’m not aware of any injury history for either of them.
is one day going to help them much??
i don’t really need to see fogg again – although it would be against the mets, so maybe…
may well depend on how we do in the next 4.
by RockyMtnCat on Aug 26, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions
you've heard of the Verducci effect, right?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_verducci/02/05/verducci.YAE/index.html
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
good point
I think the issue is more fatigue, as they aren’t really stretched out to a full season of starting work like this
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
oh, nobody
i wasn’t actually saying that we switch to a 6-man or something, just the fact that we might see them start to look more tired or whatever
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
absolutely
I expect to see Flores and Peralta back up, just to eat innings
Hopefully Chacin and Hynick as well.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 11:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Chacin back to the pen where they should have left him
Hynick as just another Josh Fogg type
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions
wrong on leaving Chacin
The Rockies need starters. The need one now, and will need more in the future They can’t move EVERY starter to the pen (Morales, now, I assume Deduno in the future, and probably Hynick as well)
I just wonder how much of his ill-fated first start was nerves
and how much was lack of seasoning and command.
I mean, ideally, sure, he’s the starter, but he was doing well in relief
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Lots of nerves
and sadly, lots of not great stuff. I really expected a great pitch…but he just has 4 good…not great pitches. Which will be great in the minors…and middling in the majors.
so we should start him anyway?
this is my concern, all of the things you listed there, and I’d hate to have him get romperstomped and lose a lot of confidence
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
well there is that
I guess, I think he’s good enough to improve and rise up.
BUT..is the playoff race the spot for on the job training from a starting pitcher?
I think we are right he needs more polish especially for a starter.
Two Words
“is the playoff race the spot for on the job training from a starting pitcher?”
Ubaldo Jimenez.
I know everyone likes to cite
Jimenez and Morales, but just because it worked for them does NOT mean it will work for Chacin.
The difference now and then is that we can do this WITHOUT Chacin. We just need the offense to actually show up when the 5th starter comes out to pitch.
Thing is with Morales, he showed how green he was between 07 and 08 with the balks and the penalty balls for going to his mouth. Little things started getting to him and he’d get completely thrown off after them.
I’m not saying Chacin = Morales, but I don’t want to put the weight of the world on Chacin either, I don’t know if a young pitcher can handle that.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I'll jump in
One of them will be a starter. I would assume Chacin, as he is the bigger prospect and has the best stuff.
Good point.
DLR’s max was 130 and he is at 141 IP.
Hammel’s max was 78 and he is at 132.
check minor league numbers too
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Hammel's
pitched about 170 before, JDLR has thrown 155. I think they’ll be okay, but it is something to monitor.
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precisely
I didn’t mean to scream that the sky is falling in terms of the IP barrier, but yeah, something to monitor.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions
This may be why they signed Ortiz
to spot start. and not use Chacin in that role. If you skip the spot next week he may be the guy.
No big whoop
We pitched 3 dudes that were completely unwanted this year, while the Dodgers ran out their hottest pitcher in a must win game, backs against the wall. Sure, it would have been fun to grab this one and watch the Mannywood Meltdown, but whatever. Fogg, Rincon, Herges. Just read that, then wipe the hands, on to the next. (not to dismiss Rincon’s fine effort, though).
Now, I say we have to look at tomorrow’s game in conjunction with the Giants series. Must go 2-2 here. I’m nervous about Padilla tomorrow, he’s a dude that might very well be pitching for his career.
yea i really would like a 3-1 next 4 games
but considering pitching matchups n all that def would take 2-2
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 26, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
i'll be doing back flips if we go 3-1
in the next four.
we could really do some damage in the standings with that as a springboard to the 10 game homestand with the mets, the dbacks and the reds.
by RockyMtnCat on Aug 26, 2009 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
I would join you.
The risk of cervical spine injury is worth it to me.
i didn't mind the loss at all tonight
and seeing the Giants were heading for a loss it was cool…but jesus christ damn it dbacks cant hold a damn 3-0 lead on the crappy Giants offense
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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Maybe you don't mind the loss...
but those of us who were at the game certainly did. Not so much that they lost, which was expected, but the inability to hit the slop Wolf was throwing up there made for a dreary night at the yard. And Fogg was throwing BP when he wasn’t walking guys.
Rincon’s performance was outstanding, no question. And young EY is FAST, almost beating out another routine grounder to short.
by alex colfax on Aug 26, 2009 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
it was such a BORING game was the problem
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
The Red Sox released Brad Penny
I wonder if the Rockies would go for him. He’s Brad Penny, so results > stuff. But he seems healthy (velocity is back).
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I seem to remember
Brad Penny always pitching like Cy Young in Coors. Lemme see if I can find some stats to back that up…
Gladly sharing a name with Dexter Fowler!
by ShadowPenguin on Aug 26, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Here we go
Brad Penny: 6-1 at Coors with 3.92 ERA, 1.387 WHIP, 5.7 SO/9, 1.77 SO/BB
Ok, maybe not as good as I thought, but still pretty good.
Gladly sharing a name with Dexter Fowler!
by ShadowPenguin on Aug 26, 2009 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
ew
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Daca can teach him a sinker in a bullpen session, right?
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
yeah just one
penny’s a quick student
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions
"Back to Back to Back AAU National Championships"
“This is the video that will get you results!”
-Joe
I don't think he'd go to a team that wouldn't offer him a starting job
Otherwise he wouldn’t have asked the Sox to release him.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Same story as Russ Ortiz
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions
You don't think Penny would get more interest than Russ Ortiz?
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Though maybe Red Sox release jobs are only good for St Louis
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
point is we HAVE Ortiz
although Penny does know how to pitch in the NL West
everyone prepare for 4 hour games because Penny is the slowest guy ever
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions
He takes a long time to throw his pitches, too.
(Rimshot!)
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c2EoJjICdk
0:09-0:22 is Brad Penny
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Loved the "that's so random" comment at the end
But wtf is videoing the TV in this day and age, lol
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
seriously, it was all i could find
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd trade Penny for Russ Ortiz.
Ortiz has nothing in the tank…nothing.
Penny? I don’t know, but I’ve watched him dominate the Rockies too many time
Why use him as a reliever?
Fogg proved today he’s got going to be an answer in the rotation long term. We can sign penny for the pro-rated minimum and get him in as the fourth/fifth starter. I want this to happen.
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 27, 2009 12:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Pro-rated major league minimum?
Though I suppose a player still has to pass through waivers to be released.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I knew we should've
went after Smoltz.
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he wouldn't have come here
not in a million years.
by Narcoleptico on Aug 27, 2009 7:45 AM MDT up reply actions
he wanted to start.
Colorado didn’t offer that opportunity at the time so I’m sure they didn’t even bother pursuing him
by Narcoleptico on Aug 27, 2009 7:53 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s a shame to see you guys had all supposedly given up on this game before it even started… where’s your fighting spirit? :)
Even though it’s Padilla on the mound tomorrow against de la Rosa, I’m excited to “steal” this one from you guys, although I don’t think it’s as lopsided as it’s being made out to be.
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
Fogg hasn't started legitimately in awhile
It wasn’t so much that we’d given up, so much that we were prepared to not flip out in the event we lost, because we’re starting our longman from the pen.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 26, 2009 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions
And Wolf has been about the Dodgers 2nd best pitcher this year
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Don't know if this is the right place for this...
But was watching postgame interview with Matt Kemp and he said…well, with these guys 1-8 they just keep coming after you. So once you have your foot on their neck, you just keep on it and on it." And he kept pushing his foot into the ground to demonstrate stepping on the Rockies necks. Well, I hope someone in that clubhouse saw that, and says "oh, noooo, you din’t, and returns the favor tomorrow.
I didn’t appreciate that…GO ROCKIES!! Destroy the Dodgers, Please :)
It's actually a compliment in a way...
He’s saying our team’s too good to let up on. I’d rather that than him treating us like, “oh, they have a couple of good players..,”
Still, GO ROCKIES!! I want you to Destroy the Dodgers too, please :)
Spilly did the high five just past 3rd base again on his HR last night
Isn’t that what he was warned not to do? Can someone have a word?
That may have been the third base coach.
Tulo was the one who had been warned for coming ouy to highfive Spilly before he reached homeplate
The rule in baseball is that if you touch a player on the basepaths in front of you, you're called out
either you or both of you.
So Tulo highfiving Spills would’ve resulted in Spilborghs’ home run being called a triple, out at home plate on interference. 3B coach doesn’t count as a player.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions
But once he's scored
he’s no longer on the basepaths.
Kind of a technicality on the part f the Ump.
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by rockieprogress on Aug 27, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions
He high fived Tulo before crossing home plate
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
oh oh tulo right
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
First post
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I hate to say this because he really does seem like a good guy...
…but I’m extremely happy that Josh Fogg won’t be ruining my afternoon in the sun today. Now I can get a Maker’s Mark or 5 at the Clocktower and enjoy the game in peace.
you watch the game from a bar within coors field?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Only when I'm actually at the bar ordering...
…or when it was 150 degrees like it was during that day game about a month ago.
ahhhh that makes sense
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2009 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions
**** your reply link!!!!!
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