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Giants 9, Rockies 5: Bullpen hands San Francisco share of wild card lead

Boom goes the dynamite

As bad as the Rockies were in the first two months, they had not lost five straight all year.  Until now.  They have now seen their four game wild card lead evaporate in just six days, the biggest fortune and extreme emotional correction I can recall.  After four dramatic come-from-behind wins against the Giants and DodgersColorado was finally in the limelight.  Five games later, nothing is working right.

The recipe for beating Cain in San Francisco had to be:

  1. Score first, providing confidence for Hammel and the sluggish offense.
  2. A strong start from Jason Hammel giving them a chance to scrape out enough vs. Cain.
  3. Chase Cain via either pitch count or beating him up with fists or bats.

Ironically, Colorado did all three of those, starting with scoring in the top of the first.  Carlos Gonzalez returned to the lineup and led off with a walk and stole second.  Troy Tulowitzki doubled that scored CarGo, marking the first time the Rockies have scored first in 8 days.   Initial lead: check.

Matt Cain threw 113 pitches in six innings, allowing eight hits and four runs.  Five of the eight hits went for extra bases and there were a few deep outs.  Patience and timely hitting vs. Cain:  check.

Jason Hammel appeared to be throwing his best start of the season after allowing just one run on two hits and 42 pitches the first five innings.  He left with a two run lead after allowing the first three hitters to reach in the sixth.  Good Hammel:  check.

What wasn't expected to be as critical was the Rockies typically strong bullpen against arguably the worst offense out there.  Unfortunately, the collective line of Franklin Morales, Rafael Betancourt, Juan Rincon, Joe Beimel and Matt Daley:

  • 3.0 IP, 7 R/ER, 6 H, 4 BB, 6 K
The big blow came on an Edgar Renteria grand slam off of Rafael Betancourt, who came in to relieve Morales, who was sitting on 38 pitches in his second inning of relief and had just loaded the bases.  The home run turned a 5-2 lead into a 6-5 debilitating deficit.  Despite the result of the move, I absolutely cannot fault Jim Tracy for putting Betancourt in.

I don't want to hear anyone blaming the offense for this one.  The club scored 5 runs on the road against Matt Cain with two home runs and six extra base hits out of 13 knocks overall.  That's better than anyone could expect against Cain in at AT&T Park.  Their 3-for-13 RISP hitting is not great, but frankly, that's not absolutely terrible either.  

Todd Helton hit a pop-up to the right field seats in the fifth for his 13th HR and Tulowitzki followed with his 24th home run, tying his career high.  The Rox added a sac fly from Clint Barmes and RBI single from Tulowitzki in the following innings for their fourth and fifth runs.  Tulo had 3 RBI on four hits and Ian Stewart was a HR shy of the cycle.  Todd Helton also had a three-hit day.

Box Score

72 - 59

 6 GB

  Tied-1st

 Lost 5

Pyth W-L:  73-58

2008:  60-71

2007:  67-64



Get off the ledge

Okay, so we've lost five straight games.  Winning the division wasn't really necessary to begin with, and let me check to be sure here...yep, we're still in first place in the wild card standings.  

For all of you claiming the season is over, you should absolutely be ashamed of yourselves.  Of all the fans out there, Rockies fans should know best what the meaning is of not quitting.  It's not even September, and we still control our own destiny to the postseason, and it's not such a tough road.  

There's a whole 30 games left in the season, 19 of which are at home including the next ten.  The next four opponents are New York, Arizona, Cincinnati and San Diego, four of the six worst teams in the National League.  The bullpen won't be this bad, and offense will get better, and this is the best position the team has been at this date in franchise history.  Let's rebound like San Francisco just did this week.

I'll just let SDcat09 wrap it up:

Comment of the Night

Let's just get our gear and get on home..

so we’re tied for the WC…not the worst thing ever…

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 5:21 PM MDT

Join after the jump for the  fangraph and the row call.

 

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WPA Heroes:
Franklin Morales (.258) - 1.2 IP, 3 ER, H, BB, 4 K, 2 LOB
Troy Tulowitzki (.216) - 4-for-5, 2B, HR, 3RBI
Ian Stewart (.189) - 3-for-4, 2B, 3B, R
Todd Helton (.153) - 3-for-4, HR, R, RBI

WPA Zeroes:
Rafael Betancourt (-.567) - 0.1 IP, 1 R, 2 H, 1 K
Clint Barmes (-.200) - 0-for-3, SAC FLY
Garrett Atkins (-.157) - 0-for-1, K
Jason Hammel (-.155) - 5.0 IP, 2 ER, 4 H, 2 K, 1 BB


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We were all saying in our GT that it was a BS strike call

I believe I commented then that karma had better not pay us back for that gift. ugh.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

So I guess I'm confused.

That pitch looked pretty close…and not as bad as it appeared on TV…or am I not reading this right?

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Pitch 6 yeah?

I thought it was probably a ball watching the game.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Look how skinny Panda is in that shot!

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

And the Giants...

Have a 3-game series at Phillies starting Tuesday…we could be right back up by 2 or 3 games in WC in no time.

by DeepPurple on Aug 30, 2009 5:57 PM MDT reply actions  

Maybe.....

the Rockies started believing their own press clippings.

They need to go back to feeling humbled and just focus on the task before them. Sort of like they did in early June.

by GoRoxGo on Aug 30, 2009 6:02 PM MDT reply actions  

I blame..

The press for paying attention to the Rockies lately. Maybe its better if we get no coverage as usual, Rockies play better that way.

by Colsportsfan on Aug 30, 2009 6:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Every team has a bad stretch

This is ours 90 wins should get the wild card that’s 18-13 the rest of the way. considering who we play. If we can’t play .580 ball we don’t deserve the spot. 7-3 homestand should put us back in front. and Atl is @ FLa for 3 so this could be a 3 horse race by weeks end.

by Roxfan24 on Aug 30, 2009 6:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Hear, hear!

All is not lost. Today was a gut punch, but they just have to move on. The upcoming homestand should be a good salve for what ills.

Paleface Destro, wildly hacking destroyer of rallies.

by Paleface Destro on Aug 30, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow, Comment of the Night...

So unexpected!! Thank you Thank you!

“I’d like to thank my mother and father..” and for anyone else I forgot, you know who you are!

That is too funny…but thanks again really!

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 6:12 PM MDT reply actions  

You must have been inspired by the Chula Vista LL team!

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Aug 30, 2009 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

maybe! I started feeling bad...and then remembered...

this is stupid…we’re still tied for the WildCard…and considering how badly we started this year…I’m pretty darn proud of this team….

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

If anything, take the fact Matt Cain is still Oh-fer-August as some kind of consolation.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I take way more consolation than that..

I actually think these games are more of an aberration than what this team really is…

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

True. REAL Edgar Renteria would have grounded into a double play in any normal game.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but not GRAND SLAM decent.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Half his HR this season have come against the Rockies. In the last week.

That’s like Yorvit going nuts and having a 5 RBI game with a grand slam

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Raffy

has given up 2 slams and both to Renteria.

by DieHardRox on Aug 30, 2009 10:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty quirky factoid, isn't it?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

Clearly we should never ever let him face Renteria with the bases loaded again.

by holly96 on Aug 31, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

"GRAND SLAM decent?"

Edgar Renteria has as many career grand slams as Dick Allen, Eddie Matthews, and Willie Mays. He’s one of the more dangerous hitters in baseball with the bases loaded. Couldn’t find his slash stats, but his career average is something like .370+ in those situations.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Aug 30, 2009 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sample sizes are fun aren't they?

One would expect Renteria’s actual “skill level” to be how he’s performed this season, not how he’s done with the bases loaded in his career. He’s not the same hitter that put up those numbers. Or you could believe you’d pick Renteria with the bases loaded just as often as Willie Mays.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Small sample size?

Dick Allen has over 7,000 career PAs.
Edgar Renteria has over 8.000 career PAs.
Eddie Matthews has over 10,000 career PAs.
Willie Mays has over 12,000 career PAs.

Each of them has 8 career grand slams.

How big a sample do you need?

The bottom line is that the active Giant you least want to face with the bags full is Edgar Renteria.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Aug 30, 2009 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

how many PAs with the bases loaded

there’s your sample size

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 30, 2009 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

LOL. I already told you I didn’t have the slash stats, but when we’re talking about thousands of career PAs, we’re not talking about small sample sizes of bases loaded situations.

Renteria is a beast with the bases full. I sincerely hope that there is further doubt on that, where the Rockies are concerned.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Aug 30, 2009 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

As I said,

the more pertinent data is Renteria 2009 season data, not his bases loaded career data. Which is closer to his actual skill level now? How he’s played in 2009 or a grand slam he hit when he was 25?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

yea seriously are you kidding me

idc what his career avg was hes in his mid 30s and has done basically nothing all year but against us all of a sudden he turns into babe ruth ridiculous

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 30, 2009 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

The best part?

There are still three more games to get direct revenge on the Giants. :)

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by Paleface Destro on Aug 30, 2009 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's too far ahead to really know for sure

especially with Aaron Cook’s spot changing face all the time

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Cook is still out...

then the changing faces could be Josh Fogg, Adam Eaton (if he’s called back up), Russ Ortiz (if he’s called up), Brad Penny (if he’s interested in joining the team), or someone else.

by CM85 on Aug 30, 2009 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Penny has already been eliminated as a possibility

and Cook’s spot this week will be skipped completely.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would like everyone to relax

and think back to how you felt on this day.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 6:27 PM MDT reply actions  

ahhh yes perspective...

Maybe you should share that with the Rockies themselves…in case their losing perspective…which I doubt :)

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

May I ask how you do that “Row Call” thing?

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

snakecharmer at AZSnakePit developed the tool

It’s here.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, a few mods att MCC have been wondering how to do this for awhile.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's funny

Make sure they know they have two divisional rival blogs to thank for it then!

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

If I did, I’d get cussed out, most likely.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

do it anyway

they need to grow up already

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 30, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Some of em, yeah. But the majority of them are nice people if you look past the profanity.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

and really

just because someone swears doesn’t make them childish

by sfoakbay on Aug 30, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

no it doesn't

but I think your message (my message) gets lost..

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Really?

I hope you’re saying that out of jealously…MCC’s site blows this one out of the water..they probably dont do the row because there’s too many damn people interested…

by bisquik on Aug 30, 2009 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

How does there site blow this one away?

Don’t all the SBNation sites pretty much follow the same design. Its just the content that differs, right? So its probably a matter of taste…

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

MCC is very proud of their style

They have a very very active community, with a lot more profanity, off topic banter, sarcasm and picture posting. It’s a matter of personal taste. If Purple Row were like MCC I might not even be an active commenter, but that’s just me.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Most there lack perspicacity(?)

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2009 8:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

perspicacity

good work

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 30, 2009 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thaks you, Lisa Simpson, all those years ago.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2009 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

WTF, considering that I was thinking of coming over to ask myself and I wanted to know in the first place because I thought it was cool that I’d seen other sbnation blogs with the feature (such as, yes, Purple Row), I can promise you that you wouldn’t get cussed out.

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by jponry on Aug 30, 2009 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, that's good to know

but Rowbots are hitting 1.000 on getting cussed out at MCC so far this week to my knowledge, so you’ll have to understand the context the perception comes from

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 30, 2009 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, certainly you can understand

the hostile reaction early in the week. We were more than a bit on edge. Plus, I would not exactly call the sort of comments made on MCC by Rowbots very friendly. I mean, I’m not sure what sort of reaction you’d expect, say, here or here.

And hey, it’s not 1.000, MohrPlease came by and we were rather polite in telling him that it was probably not the best time.

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by jponry on Aug 30, 2009 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair

anyone who thinks that the Rockies are somehow messing with the humidor is an idiot. “OMG Lincecum radar gun wasn’t fast so the Rockers are cheaterz!!!!!” Never mind the fact that a humidored ball feels way different and it would take an umpire about .5 seconds to notice. Granted, it is your board and Narcoleptico could have been a bit more tactful and actually stated the facts, but it is pretty childish to start making wild accusations of cheating just because you lost.

And we all hate Dinger as much a you guys do.

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by jcd823 on Aug 31, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Of course it was silly

But that was in the post-game thread with a lot of irrational and upset fans who had just been punched in the face three games in a row, so coming in all, “LOL YOU’RE SO PATHETIC!” was always going to get an angry response. That’s just how it is.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

"Get a haircut you punk" ?

wow, that completely crossed the line and deserved a barrage of profanity.

Oh, but please try to rationalize how your entire forum is right in cussing a newcomer out for telling a pitcher to get a haircut. The audacity of some guests, attempting to be humorous! They should know better than to try and nose in to your ironic pity party and cesspool of swirling negativity.

“Oh but it wasn’t very friendly!!!” yeah, neither was the cacophony of obscenity that followed it either. I daresay you just responded to a teasing poke by drawing and quartering me.

And don’t act as if I’ve gone out of line over at McC. I’ve talked trash at a very similar level over at TBLA and didn’t get met with 900 consecutive posts wishing death upon me and other horrible things, and the same goes for the ‘Pit. (I haven’t posted at GLB yet.) The responses haven’t been “oh ho ho, you really got us that time!”, obviously, but I’ll assure you that they’ve been far more intelligent and well composed than just “**** you” and “EAT **** AND DIE”.

My point is don’t try and tell me that my posting deserved the response I got. Narcoleptico, maybe, but your FYAD GTFO commune needs to quit being a bunch of dicks to everyone.

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 31, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

This page was linked elsewhere, decided to check in and see how y’all were taking this loss (as compared to us on Monday). As a proud lifetime McC member:

…ironic pity party and cesspool of swirling negativity.

Pretty much sums it up. Thanks for stopping by!

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by GameSix on Aug 31, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's not so much the loss

the Rockies rolled over and died. No question there, we were beaten solidly.

The flood of hatred wasn’t terribly necessary, though :-(

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 31, 2009 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, it wasn’t…but I’ll be honest with you: seeing a bare bones “f you” as the response cracked me up. Just because you were received warmly at other venues doesn’t mean you should expect the same everywhere. If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen! I think the P-Row’s rated G Ned Flanders-y brand of Nick Jr goodness suits you just fine.

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by GameSix on Aug 31, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh we dial it up to PG sometimes

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by Andrew Martin on Aug 31, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha

On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.

by GameSix on Aug 31, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sometimes Redhawk even alludes to X-rated material

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 31, 2009 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh please

It was blatant and obvious trolling. That’s how we respond to trolling like that on MCC. I don’t particularly care how True Blue LA or AZ Snakepit respond to your trolling – if you’re an opposing fan and you troll on MCC, you’re probably going to get a dogpile of profanity and the like (heck, if you’re a Giants fan and you troll blatantly and obviously like that, you’re probably going to get a dogpile of profanity). If you don’t like it, no one’s forcing you to go over there and troll.

Believe it or not, most of the people who post on the FYAD GTFO commune are very happy with it. Yes, I know it’s hard to believe but we LIKE being an ironic pity party and cesspool of swirling negativity. Being a Giants fan has been an ironic pity party and cesspool of swirling negativity since, oh, 1957. Someone earlier in the thread said that they probably wouldn’t post on PR as much if it were like MCC – well, I probably wouldn’t post on MCC at all if it were like PR. They’re different communities with wildly different populations and you can’t expect them to adhere to the rules/customs of the other while you’re visiting. I mean, I’m not sitting here swearing like a sailor like I do on MCC!

On the other hand, we have had plenty of more friendly conversations with opposing fans – but it’s very rare that those conversations come out of blatant trolling or gloating. (We had a lot of fun with Lookout Landing back when we played the Ms).

 I would say that it’s very rare that a friendly comment from an opposing fan would get that sort of reaction (unless it was, say, after a 14 inning game in which the Giants blew a 3 run lead by walking a relief pitcher with the bases loaded and giving up an opposite field grand slam to a bench player oh god why am I doing this?). Like Mike Benjamin Hit King said below, it would be strongly discouraged if it were to actually happen.

Anyway, I am sorry your experience with MCC was not a pleasant one. Maybe in the future you can give it another shot, though I hope you keep what I’ve said here in mind if you choose to do so.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

I guess you have a different definition of trolling than I do (and most people on PR, I would argue)...

RMN was simply trying to be funny and neighborly in a friendly crap-giving way (though I would have used hippie instead of punk) and MCC’s expletive-filled, vitriolic reaction was IMO overboard. I guess lightening up would be out of the question?

If your definition of trolling is any negative comment by an opposing fan, even in jest, well, you’ll have a difficult time interacting well with others.

The vibe that I’ve gotten on MCC is that you don’t care how others perceive you and that’s perfectly valid. That’s your thing and you guys are very good at it.

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by Jeff Aberle on Aug 31, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Trolling

is a comment that’s meant to stir people up. Generally, a subject-line only comment insulting nearly every Giants’ fans favorite player from a fan of an opposing team is probably going to come off as trolling. If RMN didn’t mean it that way, that’s too bad, but we’ve always had our share of visitors who like to show up and drop a comment along those lines (usually something like BARROIDS DID STEROIDS LOL) and they get that treatment.

Like I said, we’ve had good interactions with opposing fans in the past. But starting off the conversation with something like that is generally not going to get that interaction off to a very good start.

I’d also add that the difference in posting cultures between the two sites might be a factor – I mean, an expletive-filled vitriolic reaction on MCC is not that uncommon an occurrence. Heck, you can go look at a GDT and see how we react when our pitcher gives up his first run in the game. Obviously, here it would have a much different connotation than it does there.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

That said

You probably got a bit more guff than you deserved.

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by jponry on Aug 30, 2009 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Real Problem (besides Fred Lewis)

is that when (non-troll) people post at the other sites, they don’t know who’s a regular, community-approved poster and who isn’t. If a friendly comment gets a hostile response, that response is usually from the morons of the community, which then of course leads the original poster to conclude that the entire community is unfriendly rather than just those few idiots.

That being said, if you insult the other community or their team (or say, post the fangraph of a particularly painful game) on their blog, you deserve whatever you get.

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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Aug 30, 2009 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Rockies will have better luck at home

It has to be better than in Triple-A with the Sky Sox. They are in the middle of a 12-game homestand and are 1-7. They had a 7 1/2 game division lead when the homestand started, and now the lead is all but gone, with eight games left. Maybe some Coors Field home cooking with what’s left of the Mets might be the mid-week cure.

by CM85 on Aug 30, 2009 6:35 PM MDT reply actions  

un f*&^%n believeable

i was following the game on my phone at my aunt’s house at a family party and i almost lost it…we BETTER bounce back on this home stand…seriously wtf guys…

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 30, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions  

edgar friggin renteria too

of all people and friggin panda went 0 for 4 and the Giants crappy offense got 9 runs…i can not believe this happened today…i hope they are able to turn this around it has been a rough last half a week…if we can’t turn it around against 3 teams with less than 60 wins then we do not deserve to make it

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 30, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Calm down. All of MCC felt the same way you did on that Monday that went kinda bad for us.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

It ain't over til its over

I was getting as upset as you are…and then had a realization…

We are still tied for the WC …more than I would’ve imagined at the end of May :)

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

And that revelation got you Comment of the Day.

by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 30, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lol...well yeah...

that was certainly unexpected…but kinda fun…

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

yep i know it aint over

we are all even but it has been very frustrating these last few days and we must turn it around

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 30, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don't disagree...but I guess this will test our mettle to be sure....

I saw some positive things in the game today though. Hawpe seems to be out of his funk. ToddFather was dialed in…and Tulo is getting it back together…It looks to me like ToddFather..is tired of the Toddlers messing around and is ready to get back to the playoffs..

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

yep the offense woke up the last 10 innings of the series

that is a big positive going into a 10 game home stand vs 3 losing teams…i would really really like to see a 7-3 trip

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 30, 2009 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

no not being sarcastic lol

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 30, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

the bullpen gave it up

it was like they gave them a gift basket saying, “Here is the tie of the WC. Love, The Rockies”

Go Rockies!!

by Kittiesroxursox on Aug 30, 2009 6:58 PM MDT reply actions  

Well, that sucked

Gad what an awful loss. But the best thing to do is forget it, bring the boys home and hope they can dominate at Coors. The opposition is hardly formidable, but we’ve still got to bring it. I hope that they’ll be furious at this loss and take it out on the Mets, get on a roll and go 10-0 on the home stand. (Although I’ll be perfectly happy with 8-2.)

To make myself feel better, I decided to bake, which is both my passion and comfort. Apple-Praline bread in the oven right now. A nice bed-time snack later. Go Rox! We’re still in this thing!

I'll have another beer, please.

by rockhead on Aug 30, 2009 7:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Eh. . . .

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2009 7:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Good at least the Braves lost

them and the marlins could now duke it out and split a 4 game series and hopefully slowly eliminate each other….GO Phillies KILL the Giants.

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

"TuLoRocks2008 had the most comments I've seen in any game thread this year (322)...Can such a feat be eclipsed?" ..... Bring it on!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 30, 2009 8:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Time to face facts

We are a horseshit baseball team right now. We run into outs, we strike out too much, we don’t have a clue about situational hitting… the last three games were some of the worst goddamned baseball I’ve ever seen an alleged contender play.

The Giants have two good pitchers and half of a good hitter, and we can’t beat them one out of three. What does that make us?

Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.

by Franchise26 on Aug 30, 2009 9:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Step away from the ledge...

I have a cookie. Don’t you want a cookie?

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Aug 30, 2009 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey, weren't you going to jab yourself in the eye earlier?

or did you decide to use CarGo’s knife to mix the cookie batter?P

by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2009 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

I want the horrible baserunning to stop.

Seriously, I don’t even recognize the team that took the field the last three nights. They just played so damned… stupidly is the only word I can think of. Gonzalez getting picked off in the seventh is the dictionary definition of “horseshit” – without that, that seventh could have been a bigger inning – at least a two run frame, if not more, and that team is buried.

Tracy is panicking and the result is we’re running the bases like a bunch of idiots. It’s disgusting.

Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.

by Franchise26 on Aug 30, 2009 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

So this is what the Mirror Universe is like

….no need to panic. Yes, this team did not play well, on the road, against a team so “terrible” that they are tied for the Wild Card lead which means they’ve won a lot games. The Rockies didn’t hit in Candlestick…or whatever that park is called now…it could be called Yosemite it’s so damn big. Well, the poor Rox did get 11 hits today, Stewart was a homer from the cycle. Stewie…and he couldn’t hit water if fell from a boat! Hawpe, looks like he’s breaking out of his slump, Helton is still hitting, late in the season, heck we even get production out of our catcher when Yorvit is playing. The team even came back today in the bottom of the 9th instead of rolling over and dieing.

Now, we have a whole month and then some to play. The Rockies come home, and get to play some weaker teams, like the Mets AAA team that will be here this week. CarGo will get healthier, Fowler will get healthy, EY2 will relax and breath. We might find a 5th starter to replace Cook in all those Sept. call-ups. The day off tomorrow will do the entire teams some good.

Did anyone here think that the Giants would be buried this weekend? I sure didn’t. We have a month to do that.

(I can’t believe I’m the optimistic one, and you are the one upset)

by Redhawk on Aug 30, 2009 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly

We just went from a team that played .702 ball since June 4th to a team playing .658 ball. Heck when tracy took over I was hoping for a .500 season. None of would have thought 90 wins were possible when we were 20-32. We have a home friendly schedule in sept. And while it is early there is a good chance we miss Timmy in out next trip unless they tweak they’re rotation.

by Roxfan24 on Aug 30, 2009 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Stomach punch

I just spent 3 hrs with 2 Giants fans at my FFL draft and its fair to say they were feeling saucy about this weekend and today in particular. What a terrible week. But I choose to look at this as the scene in the movie with about 15 minutes left where the hero looks like he’s done, beaten, whooped, before he dusts himself off and rallies for the victory.

GO ROCKIES.

by Teekalong on Aug 30, 2009 11:06 PM MDT reply actions  

This is all my fault.

I’m here to make it better.

….

….

K, that should do it.

I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.

by A.J. Haefele on Aug 30, 2009 11:13 PM MDT reply actions  

One of my favorite sports rants of all time

Sums up this game nicely. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

"Good teams win games, horse**** teams have meetings." - Ozzie Guillen

by free7694 on Aug 31, 2009 1:44 AM MDT reply actions  

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