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Giants fan posted this on McCovey Chronicles, and most other Giants fans seem to agree:

 

For the longest time, I could not convince myself that the Rockies were actually good.  They have a solid pitching staff but definitely not one of the tops in the NL, and a bunch of .220 hitters with a lot of power.  To me, that doesn't calculate to a team that is about 18 games over .500.  Outside of Helton and Tulowitzki I can't see any real solid hitters in that Rockies lineup.  Here's the difference though, the Rockies are a team this year that knows how to win from behind and close games.  If you give the Rockies no more than 2 run deficit going into the 8th inning, they are most likely to come back and win that game.  They are a great 8th and 9th inning team, just spectacular.

I keep telling myself how lucky they are.  Just within the last couple of nights, they came back from losing 4-2 in the 8th and came back to win.  Tonight, they were down by 2 with Seth Smith up to the plate in the bottom of the ninth, and with 2 strikes and 2 outs, he gets a walk-off two run single.  In addition, the hit came off of a play that Brandon Phillips would have normally made.  Also, I hate to bring this up but how often are you going to have Ryan Spilborghs hit a walk off grand slam down by 2 in the bottom of the 14th.  The Rockies, despite any early (or late) deficit, know how to win games.  Whether the Rockies are the luckiest team in the NL or not, it doesn't matter.  What does matter is that whatever is happening to them is happening for a reason, and it just indicates that it may be the Rockies season. 

In addition, the Giants can't do the little things like bunt guys over.  Our fundamentals are atrocious, and despite that we still shouldn't lose a home series against the Padres.  Especially in the position that we're in, it is unacceptable.  If it isn't already apparent taht the Giants won't make the playoffs, it will be by next Wednesday after the Rockies leave San Francisco.

This may sound pessimistic, but I realize that this is a rebuilding season and we still have a bright future (more so than any other teams in our division).  It's just dissapointing because they are so close, but yet so far away.  No matter how the Giants end this season, it has been a fun one.




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Thank you for the kind words regarding our Rockies

It’s definitely not over for the Giants, but the Rockies have been playing very inspired baseball.

by amoeba on Sep 10, 2009 2:02 AM MDT reply actions  

lol at the end

the giants future is bright (more so than any other team in the division). let’s look at their young players compared to ours.

starting rotation: giants have lincecum, cain, sanchez, baumgardner. that’s a great rotation if sanchez continues to improve and baumgardner turns out well. personally i thought tim alderson was the better pitching prospect for them. they’re having fun with freddy sanchez though.

rockies have ubaldo,chacin, friedrich, matzek, hammell, morales. our starting pitching depth is better than theirs is no question. we have three top tier prospects in matzek, friedrich, and chacin. all three of those guys project better than wheeler. jimenez evens out lincecum and the rest of our prospects definitely is enough to match san fran’s.

in the bullpen, the rockies probably have the edge with buccholz and weathers coming back from injury.

the giants have some nice bats in their system in dominguez (wish we could have gotten him signed) neal (not a great prospect but definitely better than anything they’ve had recently and villalona. posey is ready right now but how does he help their future when bochy doesn’t play him? hypothetically he’s fired after the season and posey steps up big. i like him as a player. ishikawa has an average bat and although he’s talked up like he’s j.t. snow on defense i just don’t see it. sandoval is young and improving so they definitely have that going for them. velez, schierholtz, bowker, lewis are not starting major league players. overall i’d say their bats are on the way up, but there’s too many ifs in there to call it a great run producing team down the line. plus they’ll have to move dominguez, sandoval, or villalona unless one of them can move to left.

now let’s look at the rockies. our outfield of the future is seth smith, dexter fowler, and carlos gonzalez. boy are we lucky. lmao at them saying tulo and helton are the only legit hitters when cargo and seth have carried us. infield is stewart, tulo, and young jr. all of these players are 24 or younger besides smith who will be 27 at the beginning of next season. iannetta is 26 and hopefully is having a fluke year. our position prospects are down right now in the system but who needs them with the young talent we have right now? we’ve definitely got the brighter future between the two teams and probably the brightest in the nl west. sorry gnats fans, you’ve got starting pitching talent and low level position prospects, but outside of that and buster posey you’re future just doesn’t look that great. third place for the next five years sound good?

Popcorn chicken...with club sauce...

by lockeitup on Sep 10, 2009 3:32 AM MDT reply actions  

Let's just say this.....

You are wrong about Schierholtz he is a major league starting rf, the only problem is Bochy just loves playing the vets like Rowand and Winn ughhhh so Schierholtz never gets any consistency. My point is, if Schierholtz plays close to everyday, he can hit atleast .250 and have around 20 homeruns a season (much like many of the Rockies hitters this year). Velez I’m still not sold on so I’ll give you that. Bowker is another player like Schierholtz that given an everyday job he can hit around .250 with 25 hr. In the end that’s all you need as we can see from the Rockies. You have your backbone hitters (good average hitters) in Tulowitzki and Helton, with a bunch of guys hitting <.250 with 20 hr’s and you’ve gone 60-28 since like June which is remarkable. Well, Sandoval and Freddy Sanchez or Ryan Garko can be our backbone as far as hitting for average, and with Rowand, Bowker, and Schierholtz its a pretty similar situation as the Rockies, not to mention Buster Posey if he steps in hopefully sooner than later. The only thing is we have a gaping hole at ss. Renteria just sucks. But other than that it’s pretty similar. And pitching is solid for both teams, but its safe to say the Giants have the upperhand in that category.

The problem is guys like Winn, Renteria, Molina, and Uribe who take away opportunities from our young players because Bochy just loves playing his vets. Look at what the Rox do, Fowler gets hurt, they bring up EY Jr. and they play him almost everyday. They have faith in their young players. The Giants don’t. The young talent is there, there is just no trust in them. Everyone in the Bay Area is saying that there is no reason why Schierholtz isn’t an everyday player.

Anyways, you guys just keep winning 5-1 against the Reds. As much as I can’t stand your team right now I’ll be rooting for the Rockies in the postseason if they make it.

by Carmelballin on Sep 10, 2009 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

e e cummings disagrees with you.

in just-

in Just-
spring when the world is mud-
luscious the little
lame balloonman
whistles far and wee

and eddieandbill come
running from marbles and
piracies and it’s spring

when the world is puddle-wonderful

the queer
old balloonman whistles
far and wee
and bettyandisbel come dancing
from hop-scotch and jump-rope and

it’s spring
and the goat-footed
balloonMan whistles
far
and
wee

ee cummings

by Redhawk on Sep 10, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Burn! Burn! Burn!

So you don’t like the sad beauty of T.S Eliot’s “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock?”

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Sep 10, 2009 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or one of my favorites, Dylan Thomas's "Do Not Go Gentle into That Good Night."

I wrote an entire paper about that poem in one of my writing classes in college. It’s one of my favorite papers I ever wrote, and I got an A the first time (our professor was a tough grader, but allowed us to revise papers for a better grade).

by holly96 on Sep 11, 2009 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

RAGE RAGE

Against the dying of the light

Brave Saint Saturn is awesome, too.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 11, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is my favorite poem of all-time.

True story.

I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.

by A.J. Haefele on Sep 11, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had to recite The Raven by Poe in front of class in sixth grade

That’s the last time I enjoyed anything poetry

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 12, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

What is there to get?

"Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball." -Pete Hamill

by Bryce on Sep 10, 2009 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big poetry fan

but here is poetry:

Like music has different beats and rhythms to produce different emotions and moods. Poetry is doing that with words. The poet moves those words around to produce different “beats”. The one I have above, is about Spring time, and playing in the rain. The rain part is in the rhythm, and in your head.

Like Baseball, the beauty of poetry is not on the surface.

by Redhawk on Sep 11, 2009 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Teams with above avg pitching, above avg hitting tend to "know how to win"

It also helps to have a groundball heavy staff and a good infield defense.

The offense is deep. With the exception of Barmes, the primary regulars are all at least league average for their positions, with most being above average (including Iannetta and the pitching staff). Even Barmes and Torrealba are about even with the Giants’ cleanup hitter when park adjustments are taken into consideration.

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Sep 10, 2009 9:05 AM MDT reply actions  

OK, maybe not the most flatering post...

But you know what, it takes some class to lose with grace and it is hard to admit the strengths of your rival and competition. We tend to stereotype the MCC posters, but not every Bay Area resident is a foul mouth classless annoyance, as I think for the most part this post proves.

Carmelballin,
I look forward to competing with the Giants in the future and hope your example can elevate the discourse over at the MC Chronicles. Thanks for your post

by Rock Oax on Sep 10, 2009 9:17 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

It's the Rockies' year because their pitching has been better than the Giants' has (according to WAR and tRA)...

plus Colorado has plate discipline/can grind out professional at-bats. Outs are a precious resource to the Rockies, and so they attempt to maximize each opportunity.

As for one-run games, the Rockies are 18-18, so on the whole it isn’t really clutchness/luck, it’s regression to the mean from the awful start to the season that they had.

I’d take our next three years over your next three years (good luck with that offense).

And yes, Carmelballin, we DO have a great pitching staff. Seriously.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Sep 10, 2009 8:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Avg is not everything. Look at our SLG, OBP, and the pitches we take. We're up near the top at runs, OPS, and like Jabberwocky said, the pitching has been great as well. We have one of the top defensive infields in the majors, and we teach our pitchers to

Avg is not everything. Look at our SLG, OBP, and the pitches we take. We’re up near the top at runs, OPS, and like Jabberwocky said, the pitching has been great as well. We have one of the top defensive infields in the majors, and we teach our pitchers to get groundball outs, which the infield swallows up. It’s just the Rockies style of play, and a big reason why Tracy will probably win MOTY (If La Russa doesn’t win it).

POSITIVE THOUGHTS!

by bballrox4717 on Sep 10, 2009 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ugh, copy/paste fail

The bold was meant to be another great thing.

POSITIVE THOUGHTS!

by bballrox4717 on Sep 10, 2009 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

the NL West will be a division to be reckoned with over the next few years

This year may be the Rockies’ best opportunity to capture a playoff berth. I see the West improving next year. It along with the East (Phillies, Marlins, Braves) will be two divisions on the rise.

SF
Everyone knows SF has a helluva pitching staff. If their young bats can step up and they can find another big bat to protect Kung Fu Panda (Holliday?), they’ll have a really good chance to take the West. A lot of big if’s there though.

LA
Dodgers have a young 1-2 punch in Billingsley and Kershaw and nice veteran compliments in Kuroda and Wolf. Broxton is a dominant beast in the mold of Gagne, and I’m sure they’ll keep Sherrill around. Kemp and Ethier will likely be perennial All-Stars making up the heart of that line-up.

AZ
The D-backs have the pieces. I’m really surprised they’ve struggled as much as they have as I thought they’d be contending for the division title this year, though losing Webb and Jackson really hit them hard I guess. Assuming Webb returns healthy and re-signs, they’ve got a terrific 1-2-3 with Harren and Scherzer. Drew, Jackson, Upton, Reynolds could be a murder’s row. Colorado native Schlereth could be a lights-out closer of the future them.

SD
They’re clearly going through re-building mode this season, but they’re going to be competitive and are already showing signs of that this season. The future’s bright with Poreda and some serviceable arms in the Peavey trade, to go along with Latos. Gregerson has been impressive out of the bullpen. Trading Hairston and Giles’ slump this season hasn’t afforded A. Gonzalez much protection in that line-up, but if Headley or Blanks can step up, that’d be a huge boost for them. Cabrera could be a very good lead-off man for this team.

CO
In my biased opinion the deepest team in the N.L. as evidenced during this most recent winning streak when they played without Tulo, Stewart, Cook, Street and Fowler, yet still managed to find ways to win.

It’s time to invest in a good pair of shades.

by Geriatric Gerry on Sep 12, 2009 2:20 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree

I just don’t really feel the vibe with LA. They have a good core but so many holes they’re filling with veteran FAs. I guess as long as they have a wallet to flex, they’ll be competitive.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

pretty much this

their pitching, while defintely good, doesn’t compete with the rockies and giants. their offensive pieces are kemp, ethier, and loney. that’s it.

by sfoakbay on Sep 13, 2009 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Loney isn't even that good, especially considering his position

By wOBA, he has been an average MLB hitter the last two seasons

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 14, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

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