Amazing Eight! Mujica tries to bust Rockies mojo, but Yorvit Torrealba rallies Colorado to win with ninth inning double
Yorvit Torrealba's bases loaded heroics saved the night for the Colorado Rockies, as the streaking catcher continued a torrid month with a three run double off of Padres closer Heath Bell with two outs in the top of the ninth inning on Friday night to keep Colorado's win streak alive.
The Colorado Rockies got the kind of start they needed from Jorge De La Rosa after one shaky first inning, but nonetheless their offense failed to materialize as the San Diego Padres capitalized on a first inning walked in run and an effective performance from starter Edward Mujica and a handful of relievers to take a 1-0 lead on Friday night and for most of the game, it appeared they were on their way to victory. The Padres scored their run when De La Rosa loaded the bases following a one out David Eckstein double by walking Adrian Gonzalez and allowing a single to Chase Headley. JDLR then walked Oscar Salazar to push Eckstein home before regaining his composure and more or less cruising through the next six innings of his start.
The Rockies best chance to score before the ninth inning rally came when they loaded the bases with one out in the seventh inning. In the seventh inning when Todd Helton got hit by a pitch to lead off the inning and moved to third one out later when Brad Hawpe doubled. With runners in scoring position, Garrett Atkins popped out to first. Seth Smith pinch hit for Clint Barmes and was intentionally walked bringing Ryan Spilborghs (pinch hitting for Chris Iannetta) to the plate with the bases loaded and two outs. Spilborghs struck out swinging to end the threat.
In the ninth, Helton walked, Hawpe singled with one out and pinch hitter Jason Giambi also walked to load the bases for Colorado. Heath Bell struck out Matt Murton, but Torrealba came through with the bases clearing double that would give Colorado a 3-1 lead. A single by Paul Phillips scored Torrealba and pushed the lead to 4-1. Franklin Morales came on to pitch a scoreless ninth inning for the save.
With the win Colorado improved to 82-60 on the season and stayed two games behind the Dodgers, while expanding their lead over their closest competitors in the N.L wild card chase as both Florida and San Francisco lost.
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I turned the game off in the 8th I was so pissed off.
Good to see there’s still magic.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 11, 2009 11:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Never give up hope.
It was only 1-0, no where near over until the 27th out.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 11, 2009 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh it wasn't a hope thing
it was a pissed off thing
go yorvit
and hot fuzz was awesome
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 11, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
I did the same thing before the bottom of the 14th when Spilly got the grand salami. He sure taught me a lesson.
by kiraly41 on Sep 12, 2009 12:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My roommate did too that night
I learned my lesson when John Vander Wal hit a walkoff 3-run HR off Dennis Eckersley. I am completely unable to turn off games late when they are within three runs, no matter how bad the game was
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 12, 2009 1:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by oo_nrb on Sep 12, 2009 12:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just...
Love. Lots and lots of love.
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by Bryce on Sep 11, 2009 11:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
love it love it love it
Go Rockies!…can not stop them you can only hope to contain them
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 11, 2009 11:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Goodness
I am speechless. Way to pull through, Rox. This is what baseball is all about. And Eff the haters, this is our time!
by billybob420 on Sep 11, 2009 11:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yorvit Torrealba has given me an e-Rock-tion.
And I don’t see it subsiding in the next four hours.
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by Franchise26 on Sep 11, 2009 11:28 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Better go see your physician.
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by Russ Oates on Sep 11, 2009 11:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say that that's too much information,
if I didn’t have one too.
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by Bryce on Sep 11, 2009 11:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just as an exercise,
can we see what this wrap looked like half an hour ago?
by Foxhole Atheist on Sep 11, 2009 11:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
it probably wasn't as fun
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by pedalpusher on Sep 11, 2009 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rockies need to score more runs.
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
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by Russ Oates on Sep 11, 2009 11:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The Rox used 23 players
I wonder if that is a Rockies record?
by brian8065 on Sep 11, 2009 11:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
doubtful
2007 play in game had to have more
"They can outplay us all four games and if we end up winning the series, I'll be fine with that." ~Troy Tulowitzki
by HeltonsHeroes on Sep 11, 2009 11:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
13 pitchers i believe
"They can outplay us all four games and if we end up winning the series, I'll be fine with that." ~Troy Tulowitzki
by HeltonsHeroes on Sep 11, 2009 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but for a 9 inning game?
We used everyone plus our call-ups. I think it might be close.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 11, 2009 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
22 inning game as well
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 11, 2009 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 9-1 homestand was a Rockies record for sure!!!
by watermelon on Sep 11, 2009 11:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked Yorvit.
No, really, I have. I haven’t been a fan of his numbers or anything, I just like watching him. Like the way he reassures pitchers with theatric gestures from behind the plate. Like the way Morales seems like a different pitcher with him back there. Like the fact he’s one of the first guys on the top dugout step when somebody gets a big hit. Like the fact that he plays the game with the kind of passion that’s so evident that we fans know he cares every bit as much as we do.
I don’t know how glad I am that he’s our starting catcher, but I’m happy he got the big hit tonight.
And did you notice who the first guy on the top step to greet Yorvit was after he scored on Phillips’ hit? Yep, Todd Helton. Thought that was really neat too.
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by Franchise26 on Sep 11, 2009 11:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I'll ever get tired of
seeing Todd Helton jumping up and down like a kid at Christmas.
Never give up, never surrender.
by coolopotamus on Sep 11, 2009 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was the best, Helton has been with us forever and deserves these joys and it is great to see him fully appreciate them!!!
by watermelon on Sep 11, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate his numbers
but actual baseball production aside, I concur with this sentiment on Yorvit
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 11, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes yes yes
Whether or not his “talent” measures up, he’s clearly a great teammate with heart to spare. Cheer for him, it feels good.
And I NEVER will get tired of seeing the (rare) eruption of emotion from #17. Never. Gives me chills.
by Teekalong on Sep 12, 2009 12:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROXXXX!!!!
I have to say, I became a baseball fan watching the Red Sox win the world series against the Yankees a few years ago and really, Rockies how can anyone not love you this year? Way to come back for the win in this game, not in your crazy high altitude home park, and also your High Attitude that you can win no matter what, and that every win matters game by game more than ever before. All I can say is go EYJ, go Helton, go everyone on the Rockies, lets kick some butt and see the Red Sox in th world series and come to play. PS Jim Tracy I love you!!!
by watermelon on Sep 11, 2009 11:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox have never played the Yankees in the World Series.
I’m just saying…
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 11, 2009 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
um, that’s because the Yankees and red Sox are in the same league, so that’s not possible, do you remember when the red sox came from being three games back for the first time to beat the Yankees in the playoffs? But really I don’t want to get in a Yankees vs Red sox fight, I am just trying to say the Rockies are awesome right now and I would love to see them rematch my other favorite team the Red Sox!!!
by watermelon on Sep 11, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant to say initially the Red Sox beating the Yankees in the playoffs not the world series!Now I get it!!
by watermelon on Sep 11, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of rookie...
The Rox as a team still feel like a rookie player competing among vets like LA, SF, STL. One of those rookies that goes out and puts up a great year despite their lack of experience.
They are playing awesome ball everywhere they go (almost) and if they can figure out the Dodgers they can really show that they can hang with the big dogs and might finally get all the doubters to start thinking differently about this team.
If that has to happen after September is over, so be it. They need to step up and absolutely have the desire, the heart and gobs of talent to do so. Regardless of anyone’s opinion of the Rockies, they are a seriously scary team to anyone facing them lately. They are finally establishing themselves and boy is it ever sweet!
by billybob420 on Sep 12, 2009 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How are LA and SF more playoff vets than the Rox?
Rox were there two years ago, and many of our core players were on that team. SF hasn’t made it in years. The Dodgers made it last year, but that was their first playoff series win in 20 years.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier, Jonathan Broxton
James Loney, Chad billingsley, Clayton Kershaw
Tim Lincecum, Eugenio Velez, Pablo Sandoval, Brian Wilson, Emmanuel Burriss, Travis Ishikawa, Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Jonathan Sanchez
Jason Hammel, Troy Tulowitzki, ian Stewart, Dexter Fowler, Carlos Gonzalez, Chris Iannetta, Ubaldo Jimenez, Franklin Morales, Matt Daley
damn veteran teams
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yet...
…Tulo, Stewart, Jimenez, and Morales all have playoff experience…(not to mention Helton, Atkins, Hawpe, Cook)
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stewart has no playoff experience
I’m more saying that the competition isn’t all grizzled vets, they have a lot of young talent as well.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they do, they certainly do.
My bad, thought BOOM made the 2007 playoff roster. But we’ll have about half of our roster with playoff experience.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and what's best
is that a lot of the guys will now have the mindset of “let’s win this thing” rather than “wow we’re really here”
that’s part of what killed us against Boston
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that played some part
..but not as much as the 8 day layoff, which allowed the game intensity to lapse, big time.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
there were a lot of factors
but there’s not a right or wrong about it. I blame the lag and the fact that Boston was a top to bottom better team.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no doubt.
As a club, the Red Sox were much better tan the Rockies, of that there was never any doubt.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the more reason they need a rematch! If the Sox have it in em…
by billybob420 on Sep 12, 2009 1:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi, you must be new here.
Besides all the players from our 2007 roster, we have picked up quite a few with post-season experience:
Beimel
Bettancourt
GIambi
Marquis
So add those guys in, and you got more than 60% of our team that “has been there.”
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you look up "playoff experience" in the dictionary,
Jason Marquis is the definition. 9 years pitched, 9 teams with division titles. And I’d really hate for the Rockies to break his streak ;) .
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by oo_nrb on Sep 12, 2009 12:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis always gets laid off the playoff roster in years past.
Now he’s the number 2 guy….
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by bballrox4717 on Sep 12, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry; I guess I didn’t really make the point I was trying to make.
What I meant to say was that the Rockies as a whole are viewed by a lot of folks as unproven (sentiment such as “07 was a fluke” being common) but they are doing everything right and have been for a long time and sooner or later everyone including big-market media/fans will have to acknowledge it.
by billybob420 on Sep 12, 2009 1:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
you said you saw the Red Sox win the world series against the Yanks
Per our friends at McCovey Cove: The Rockies are 45604564-0 whenever they play baseball in the MLB. That just happens to be over 281509 season’s worth of baseball!
by realmenwearpurple on Sep 11, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, my bad, that series was more important to me than the world series that year I guess…
by watermelon on Sep 11, 2009 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who could even try
to say otherwise? The 04 WS was an afterthought and almost a foregone conclusion.
Needless to say the Cardinals have come a long way since then.
by billybob420 on Sep 12, 2009 1:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And over at MCC...
….they’re saying we’ll get swept by the Phillies in the NLDS.
Just like we did in 2007, lol.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 11, 2009 11:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
haha to be honest the Phillies don't scare me...
the Cardinals do however…
by Colsportsfan on Sep 11, 2009 11:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
They won't scare me much if we sweep them again
Remember, we did sweep them four games to none…in St. Louis. Started the 11 game winning streak that turned season around.
Of course, they didn’t have Holliday then, but we held Pujols in check, and beat a couple of pretty good pitchers in that series.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 11, 2009 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We also didn't face Carpenter,
and Wainwright and Piniero have gotten better as the season has gone on.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 11, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
As have Jimenez and JLDR....
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by Mondogarage on Sep 11, 2009 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
only because they started badly.
they have been as good as anyone
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by realmenwearpurple on Sep 11, 2009 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why u gotta harsh my buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?
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by Mondogarage on Sep 11, 2009 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because then when we beat them,
everyone will know just how good we are!
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd disagree on ubaldo
he’s as good as anyone in baseball now.
and JDLR is a mere 14-3 since june 1st, sooooo….
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 11, 2009 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes it's good to stop being a homer
and look at things objectively. What’s Wainwright’s record and ERA? Carpenter’s? I rest my case. Cy Young is for the whole season.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
W-L record is the worst method of evaluating a pitcher
period.
Ubaldo is a top 10 pitcher just about any way you slice it.
Chris Carpenter is having the best season of the lot, though.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
at some point, wins begin to mean something
and 14-3 is over three months is probably about that point.
of course JDLR is only our #3 starter right now…
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 12, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
this'll probably drop to the 2nd page before you read it
But I still don’t find that as very telling. Is that to say that DLR has pitched better than Ubaldo? I find that very hard to believe.
I’ve given up on trying to convince the old school crowd that Wins aren’t a very good measure of anything. DLR going 14-3 over 3 months tells me nothing more than “good”. It doesn’t tell me how good or anything like that. Sure, they “mean” something, but what exactly do they mean?
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 13, 2009 1:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're completely missing the point
Even with Pujols, we’ve hit nearly 30 more dingers. They don’t walk nearly as much as we do (in fact, they’re only 11th in the NL in walks).
Their pitching staff isn’t that much better than ours. We score 1/2 a run more per game than they do.
Why don’t you look at the totality of the rosters objectively, as you state, and not just their top three arms and closer?
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would still have to agree w/ others that STL is the class
of the NL, but not by much, and until you lead your division I’m not sure you can lay claim to being the class of the league. A week could change all of this though.
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but where do you rank collapsing teams and such? the Dodgers were the Class of the NL until they started crumbling.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Dodgers are absolutely feeling the heat, but
you have to give them the edge w/ the overall better record and head-to-head domination. Just looking at talent and they way each team is playing I think we measure up w/ anyone.
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Head-to-head domination matters much and concerns me
That said, the first nine of those games were with Hurdle at the helm. The last six games could easily have been 4-2 Rox favor.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but they still won 2 series w/ Tracy managing
I would love to turn all of that around w/ a season ending sweep and put the finishing touches on our 1st NL division crown.
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not suggesting the Rox are the class of the league, either
I’m suggesting we’re their equal, however.
And as long as we’re 4-0 against them this season, on top of only being 2 games behind them at present, I don’t see how anyone can argue that they’re demonstrably better than us, even if they have the MVP and Cy Young winners.
Last I checked, the playoff roster has 25 guys, not two.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a very good and deep roster.
They also have Franklin on the back end, Ankiel is clutch, Ludwick has been coming into his own, Molina is a top 5 catcher, Ryan could be among best fielders in NL, de Rosa is normally good, and so on…
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Franklin has made a deal with the devil
I fully expect this season to be his last, and his arm to drop off in spring training next year, hell, probably both arms
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel is hitting .231 with 11 homers and a .679 OPS
Are you just going based on fuzzy recollections of last year?
Ludwick is a nice player, but he’s no game changer. Heck, his numbers aren’t even at Brad Hawpe’s level for the season.
Molina has a nice average for a catcher, but no power. CDI+Torrealba >>> Molina’s season numbers.
Franklin is no better than Street (assuming Street comes back healthy, but Morales is 6-6 since then, anyway).
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at their numbers in close games
and the playoffs.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you still trying to win an unwinnable argument?
In tonight’s “close” game, they lost 1-0.
The cards are 22-16 in 1-run games. Nice, but hardly amazingly clutch. And the Rox are 18-10 in their last 28 1-run games.
I’d swear you’re just arguing to argue.
They’ve made more errors than the Rockies.
Can you cite any numbers that actually show the entire club is a class above the Rox? According to the season, they’re two whole games better than the Rox, but 0-4 against the Rox.
We outscored them 33-9 in four games in St. Louis, and we got tacos thanks to Wainwright and Piniero.
You say you want me to look at their close games, dude, the burden’s on you, I’ve given plenty of actual numbers to show that if anything, the teams are essentially equals.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yadier is .316 in Post season
w/ 11 RBIs in 29 games. Ankiel has 3 HR’s in Late and Close games in 2009. Ryan has a .986 Field % at SS (Tulo’s is .989)
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Tulo’s bat >>>>> Ryan’s bat. When you take the totality of those two players, Ryan is no where near the player Tulo is.
3 HR’s in late/close…lol sample size. Ankiel’s overall 2009 pretty much sucks. You can have Ankiel as a late inning PHer. I’ll take Smith as a PHer over Ankiel 8 days a week and twice on Sundays, and Smith will still hit .300 as a starter.
Yadier’s past postseason .BA has no bearing on which overall club is the class of the league in 2009.
But if you have to dig that far deep to try to prove your case, that alone says all that needs to be said.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I pretty much lost my arguement
at this point, but I don’t give up easily!
But we can at least agree, we pretty much have to walk Pujols every AB to have a chance.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
In theory, I might agree with that, but...
In the previous 4 game series, Pujols went 1-14 with one walk and three K’s.
Of course, his one hit was a 3-run dinger.
But we pitched to him the whole series and he hurt us once.
So we play that situationally.
His numbers are worse against the Rox this year than against any other team. (and yes, I know…sample size)
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
range is more important than Field%
Tulo >>> Ryan and Lugo
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Street > Franklin
I take Yadi’s defense over nobody’s except perhaps Mauer’s, and his bat is solid. I think Yadi > our catchers (haven’t looked at monthly splits)
Pujols > *
Hawpe > Ludwick
Fowler/Gonzalez > Rasmus
Holliday > Smith/Gonzalez (I kind of proved that the other day)
Stew = Glaus, if not Stew > Glaus. You could make a case for either.
Tulo > Lugo
Barmes = Schumaker
Cards rotation > Rockies rotation
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean over anybody's
but yeah, I agree with you on the whole.
To repeat what I said, whilst I think they are the best team in the NL right now, I certainly don’t think they aren’t beatable, and think it would be a great series between our clubs
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on the above...
I think that makes my case. When you take the totality of the two clubs, they’re really pretty much equal.
And while I’d definitely take Yadi’s defense over CDI/Yorvit, I’d take our catchers’ bats over his. I do think he’ll keep our running game in check, however.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
they likely have homefield advantage in a playoff series
admittedly it is close between the two clubs, as it would be between any of the likely four playoff teams, there should be some great matchups in the NL this year
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you say they "likely" have homefield advantage...
I get it, if we can’t pass the Dodgers, of course.
But…if we sweep the Cards and both teams otherwise play even, then we have a better record than the Cards at the end of the season.
And, might I add, our four game sweep of the Cards was in Busch, not Coors Field?
I do agree with your main point, there should be some great matchups. I do also see the Phils and Dodgers slowly falling apart, though.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say that scenario still makes it likely they get homefield advantage
we have to pass two teams who are 2 games ahead of us.
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct, but we have three games against each of those teams
In the end, I think LA probably ends up with the division, if for no other reason than they have seven games against Pittsburgh and the Natinals.
But Wolf’s missing at least a start, Kershaw may be done…so who knows? But you’re probably right.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're assuming Brendan Ryan
is coming off the bench?
I also think our bench is deeper.
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by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is your bench deeper?
We’ll have either Smith or Gonzales, we’ll have 20 HR Ianetta, we’ll have either Atkins or Stewart.
And Brendan Ryan is nowhere near the overall player Tulo is.
Your team has two players with over 14 home runs.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a Rockies fan
our bench = rockies bench
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
I am a die hard Rockies fan, but I also follow the Cards very closely.
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by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Cards are a good club
always have been. Not a bad team to follow as well, I have nothing bad to say about them.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither do I
There are few clubs I truly respect/admire as franchises. The Cards have always been one (as have the Twins). I had the Orioles in that class until Angelos bought the team in ’92 and immediately began running it into the ground.
I have nothing but respect for St. Louis as a franchise. I just don’t think they’re any better as a club than we are this year.
But I would LOVE to see a Cards/Rox NLCS.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahha Angelos
he’s the worst owner in baseball
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would too, if for
nothing more than to be able to talk shit to all my buddies in Missouri and Illinois.
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by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I work with a Cards fan
that’ll be epic
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that happens
that would be awesome, cuz then I would get to go to some of the games!
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by Chupathingy on Sep 12, 2009 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't DeRosa their starting 3rd baseman?
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by bballrox4717 on Sep 12, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
if so
Stew = DeRosa. Stew’s fielding numbers are all mucked up thanks to his time at 2B. Stew’s been the better defensive 3B, DeRosa has the edge batting.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 13, 2009 1:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
also the Cy Young award is typically awarded based on faulty reasoning
like wins and losses
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about ERA?
Strikeouts? Opp BA? QS? Those guys are among the top in all those categories.
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by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
including Ubaldo
Wainwright and Carpenter are having magnificent seasons. One of them will likely win the CYA, probably the former.
And that’s assuming Timmy Lincecum doesn’t.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies lead ALL OF MLB in quality starts
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I repeat what I said earlier...
The roster is 25 guys, not three starting pitchers. The two ballclubs are essentially equals.
One has a starting pitching advantage (that’s smaller than you think), the other has a hitting/defense advantage, and quite possibly an overall bullpen advantage (a wash, at worst)
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a bigger advantage than you'd think
sort of. If the Cards had a real infield defense, they’d be romperstomping teams with their rotation.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct, but they don't have a real infield defense
We aren’t dealing with the theoretical, we’re dealing with how the two clubs have actually performed.
And they do a terrible job of working pitchers, and get on base quite a bit less than we do.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a fan with how we work pitchers, either.
but yeah, their groundballers are almost being wasted, but then again, their pitchers’ ERAs are pretty indicative of their FIP/tRAs
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't there something the other day
that said we have the highest pitches seen per plate appearance in the NL
What do you mean by working pitchers badly?
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
we might be approaching this from opposite angles
you’re saying “working pitchers” like making pitchers work to get the out
I’m saying “working pitchers” like “ok let’s NOT have Hammel start off the 8th and give it to Betancourt, like his job is”
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh I see
my bad
Yeah in some ways I like how Tracy sticks with his starters longer than Hurdle used to, but in others I don’t.
I think there was an occasion when we played Seattle this year and Ubaldo had thrown 115 pitches through eight and we were comfortably up, and Tracy sent him back out for the ninth. To me this is just silly
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ubaldo is like 6th in Pitcher Abuse Points
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's it
We were referring to different things…I agree with you re handling of our own pitchers, but I was talking solely about working counts…even when we K or hit a weak popup, it’s often after a 6 or 7 pitch AB.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay my article
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the arguement was second half
so yes Cy young is whole season, but we are not claiming they earned the Cy young, just that they have been pitching as well as anyone in the second half.
Per our friends at McCovey Cove: The Rockies are 45604564-0 whenever they play baseball in the MLB. That just happens to be over 281509 season’s worth of baseball!
by realmenwearpurple on Sep 12, 2009 12:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes it's good to realize that regular season awards don't mean
anything on the field during the playoffs…
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 12, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals have to be considered class of the NL right now
they’re the only team likely to get in the playoffs with a better rotation than us for a start,
by djmbluemoon on Sep 11, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do they *have* to be considered the class?
We’re only two games behind them right now.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 11, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
they've gone 25-7 over their last 32 games
I’m not saying they’re streets ahead, I’m just saying if you were objectively picking the NL champion right now, it would be the Cards
by djmbluemoon on Sep 11, 2009 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
do they have the golden thong???
i rest my case…
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 12, 2009 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
although the only decent team they've played in that stretch is the Dodgers
meh, it’s still good
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, if I worked for the East Coast media
The Rockies are 64-32 over the last 96 games.
I honestly think the perception of them being the class of the league is just that…perception. I don’t think they’re measurably better than us at all.
Their bench is definitely not as strong as ours is, and the bullpens are equal, if not perhaps slightly so in our favor. And while Carpenter and Wainwright are the shizznitz, Piniero is doing it with mirrors (sorta), and their back end is not as good as Hammel/JLDR.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoltz?
Are you going to mention him? Hard to ignore him…
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by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not bad for a five inning guy.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
first glance made me think this said
“he’s not hitting bad for a five guy” and I thought “….. nahhhhh”
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pineiro is definitely not doing it with mirrors
He has a great FIP (3.05).
You can drop one of our backend starters in a playoff series
I just think that Wainwright + Carpenter + Pineiro + Smoltz > Jimenez + Cook + Marquis + DLR
As for the others, the bullpen and the lineups, it’s a toss up. I still think we could definitely beat them in a series though
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pineiro is getting absurd amounts of groundballs as well
he’s like a doubly effective Jason Marquis
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely give the Cards a starting pitching advantage...
…just not that big of one. but the lineups are not tossups. The Rox have a clear advantage in power, a bigger advantage in walks, a 50% advantage in stolen bases, etc….
In fact, as much as Pujols is walked intentionally, the whole TEAM is only 11th in the NL in walks. I was actually stunned to see that.
The St. Louis offense is pretty much bereft of real threats beyond Pujols and Holliday. Sure, they have a few guys who occasionally can do something (Schumaker, Ludwick, maybe even Ankiel if you’re generous), but we have threats up and down the lineup.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have inconsistencies up and down the lineup
it’s a good one, and they’re all threats, and they’re all wasted outs, it just depends on the game, you know?
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We waste outs, sure, but
…our team .OBP is 2nd only two the Dodgers (by .002), so how many are we really wasting? I’m concerned you may be focusing on specific instances, and not the whole.
If anything, we’ve run into some bad outs. But we get on base significantly more than the Cards do, so arguably, they waste more outs than we do, and yet we have significantly more threats to change the game on a single swing.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh I am
but you can’t deny that we’re a streaky team, individually speaking.
Hawpe is clutch! 2-out ribbie!
Hawpe is a wasted out. Why isn’t Gonzalez starting in RF?
Atkins is pretty clutch, for a bench bat
MAKE OUTKINS
Stewart looks lost out there
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, yes, totally
And you didn’t even have to mention Barmes. ;-)
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that's less of a game-to-game
and more a half-to-half
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Phillies have fallen off a bit
and the Cards are strong as ever. I concur with this.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 11, 2009 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a better record than the Phils.
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by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
we sure do
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think?
If the Rockies play the Cardinals in the playoffs, how will the fans greet Matt Holliday? I’m not quite sure what the general attitude is towards him, but I really don’t care for him much anymore.
by Mr. Rockie on Sep 12, 2009 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also don't
I think he’ll be cheered
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to go to the Friday game against the Cards and I plan to cheer the man
he did help us get to our 1st WS and he wanted more years on his contract, meaning he wanted to stay longer, I can’t fault him or hate him for that. On top of all that he is doing a good job of proving guys can be Rockies and be good hitters in any park.
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
except in Oakland
where noone is a good hitter
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:15 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
true, but even in Oakland he was starting to get hot before being traded
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh I agree
even with the huge slump the MSM gave him, he was still their best hitter
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the Rox did offer him a fairly large sum of money
and he didn’t bite. I’m starting to see him as sort of a mercenary hitter who only plays on winning teams and really has no loyalty, especially after how he handled Oakland. He wanted to play for a winning team, they lost, heee’s outa here! Couldn’t just stick around for one more year. Too bad. I hope the Cardinals get slammed and he starts whining for a trade again, then tries to find a winning team again for the rest of his career and doesn’t. And the Rockies win 3 titles without him, and he wonders…why?
Just a few of my feelings.
by Mr. Rockie on Sep 12, 2009 12:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
erm
I’m sure it wouldn’t have mattered if Matt had got an ‘I heart Oakland’ tattoo on his forehead.
Billy Beane was still trading his ass out of there.
I’ll take the return we got for him and our record this year, I don’t see how we would have been better off if we kept him this year
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he just seemed to stop caring for a while
Oakland fans didn’t like him, either, and believed he was reducing himself to lackluster performance due to his dislike of being on a losing team. Their perception was that he was pretty much begging for a trade through his actions on the field. That is where I base my perception on. Maybe I am wrong.
by Mr. Rockie on Sep 12, 2009 12:29 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't say if you are wrong or not on that, only Matty knows that
but I tend to disagree since he played very well in his last few weeks w/ the A’s. You could argue that he was playing well to try and get a trading partner for the A’s, but I don’t think so.
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some Oakland fans didn't like him
Those tended to be the ones that expected him to come in and hit .350/.450/.650 or something. When I looked on their SBN blog it was basically a split between those who didn’t like him because they thought he should be better and those who pointed out he was still hitting OK.
That being said, one of my best friends is an A’s fan, and he was amazed that UZR gave Holliday an average rating in LF, he thought he was horrible/borderline DH, so perhaps there’s something in that fielding
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday switched leagues, remember
it’s not really easy to just start hitting brand new pitchers
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't bite, but my understanding is that it had more to do
with the years on the contract not the money. He wanted to keep his family in the same place for more years, and I understand why he would want that and to a certain extent he earned it, just not w/ us. I never heard him whine to leave either, that was Oakland’s decision.
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know he wanted more years, but now he's about to change teams...
…for the 3rd time in 15 months. Just sayin’.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, the last year of a Boras client's team-controlled years
is always a crazy one
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
when has he ever whined for a trade?
DOD traded him once it became apparent he was heading for free agency the next year, I can’t get angry at a guy for wanting to play the free agency stakes
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats sort of a silly reason
To hate on one of the premier players in the history of our organization. With everything he did for this team, there is no reason for this. Unless we want to play the role of scorned lover, I can’t blame a guy for trying to get as much money and years as possible.
Sure we want loyalty out of our guys but Matt must realize this is his one chance to get a mammoth contract. How can you blame a guy for wanting to get 7 years/100 million over the 2 years/40 million that was (I believe) reportedly offered.
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by jcd823 on Sep 12, 2009 12:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
we offered him something like 4 years and like 16-17M per year
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still
the point still stands. “The Slide” will be right up there with “The Drive” in Denver sports history and Matt Holliday nearly knocked him self out as a result of that play. Sigh. I can’t blame Matt so I will blame baseball and their retarded no salary cap bs. Would it really be that hard to figure out a system that at least gives teams like the Rockies a chance to keep their homegrown superstars?
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by jcd823 on Sep 12, 2009 12:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do and don't blame Holliday
I don’t blame him, because this way when he’s 35-40 and can’t really play anymore, he has a nice bundle of money to support his family for their lives.
I DO blame him because how many more castles do you need to buy? 84M or whatever vs 100M? I know it’s a crap ton of money, but at the same time, what can you do with 100M that you can’t with 84M?
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that extra 16M can go a long way
if you invest it right.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it can
but how much farther do you need to go
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last until you're 84
instead of 72. Who knows how expensive it will be by that time.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that extra 16M can go a long way
if you invest it with me.
- Bernie Madoff
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was 4 years, $21m per year.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apologize to all those who are angered by my Holliday post
Had to post something angering to spark some debate. No hard feelings. haha.
by Mr. Rockie on Sep 12, 2009 12:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually don't fault/blame Holliday at all
However, he had to know that the moment he chose to hire Boras, that it would end the way that it did, because that’s the Boras way. Never to sign an extension that costs you a free agent year.
So he had to know he was going to likely be traded at some point, from the moment he signed on with Boras.
I presume he did realize this, because he’s never complained about the trade. But he’s certainly entitled to do everything he can to maximize his income potential, I don’t begrudge that at all. It’s just that from that moment, it was never going to be here.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 1:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
They offered him four years, $84m as an extension beyond '09
Face it, as a Boras client, he was not going to sign ANY deal prior to his free agency, unless we offered Teixiera money, which would have been insane.
He said a couple weeks ago, that he’d even consider coming back here.
Too bad, so sad, we don’t need you now. Not with Smith/Fowler/CarGo.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just had a disgusting mental image
of how devastating our lineup would be with Holliday-Fowler-Gonzalez
but then where would smith play /tears
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should get
and deserves, a standing ovation for his first AB. Then, treat him like Pujols.
by Teekalong on Sep 12, 2009 12:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the regular season, give him a cheer in his first AB
In the playoffs, he’s the enemy just like anyone else.
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by free7694 on Sep 12, 2009 12:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
comming from McCovey...
“Rockies have bases loaded, 1 out in 9th”
“or course they do”
“A bases clearing double by fucking Yorvit Torrealba”
“Rockies never ever lose ever.”
haha, god I love this
by Colsportsfan on Sep 11, 2009 11:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
2 games back
Long time listener, first time caller. Rockies are actually 2 back of the Dodgers. Don’t worry, ESPN got it wrong too…
by mfaybik on Sep 11, 2009 11:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 11, 2009 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw that
ESPN took away one of the Rockies wins, showing 81 instead of 82
They don’t really play close attention, unless Giambi was up to bat (ex Yankee and all that), which probably explains why several amazing defensive plays routinely don’t show up on their web gems, but usually are on MLBN.
by ddavis539 on Sep 12, 2009 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alanna is eyeballing him pretty good.
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 11, 2009 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love how they zoomed in to only show his face after a few seconds.
by theshiva on Sep 11, 2009 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's because he's only wearing the thong.
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 11, 2009 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
........
OH MY BRAIN. Where is the bleach?!
by theshiva on Sep 11, 2009 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thongwatch 2009....
I picture running like in Baywatch
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 11, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thongtember.
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 11, 2009 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not afraid to admit...
I am LOVING IT!!!!!
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun."
The Sandlot (1993) – Benny Rodriguez (Mike Vitar)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 11, 2009 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm wondering if he had his chest lasered
or if he gets a regular chest wax…
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 11, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So happy and at the same time disturbed right now!
But the Rockies are so amazing that I will take all the disturbia with it….thongs and chest hair/lack there of are fine with me….all part of the mojo!!!
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by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 11, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha I'm glad Giambi is here to help for strech
just for the weird and good things he does as a player
by Colsportsfan on Sep 11, 2009 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi's OBP for rest of the season
over/under .500…NOONE is pitching to him
by tulotulotulo on Sep 11, 2009 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he has a real good...
sense of the strike zone
You all though I was going to say something about the thong
by Rock Oax on Sep 11, 2009 11:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I worked last night, so I just watched the DVR game.
I’m glad that I kept watching till the end. Bare chested Giambi vs. Alana was a sight to behold.
by EricMedic on Sep 12, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bare Chested Giambi vs Bare Chested Alana?
giggity
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 13, 2009 2:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heard from the LA game:
Kershaw supposedly can’t lift his arm over his shoulder. Possible seperation.
well, if that don’t beat all.
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 11, 2009 11:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The real cause of his injury
“Joe Torre”.
When he ran into the wall, the duct tape and sticky back plastic holding it onto his torso fell out.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 11, 2009 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
this..this is a valid point
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 11, 2009 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is a pitcher doing running into a wall in the 1st place?
by Colsportsfan on Sep 11, 2009 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
shagging fly balls in BP
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 11, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody cue Carl Lewis.
One word for the Dodgers if this is true.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
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by Franchise26 on Sep 11, 2009 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot believe we won this game
Yet I have to believe it because we did. “Huge” can’t begin to describe Yorvit’s hit. Man oh man on man. What a win. Don’t know when I’ll get to sleep tonight. Go Rockies!!!!!!
It's Seth Smith's world. The rest of us just live in it.
by rockhead on Sep 11, 2009 11:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll sleep like a baby, that's for sure
I had a feeling we were gonna do something to make this magical. I just couldn’t put up with where we were.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost turned it off
But kept thinking that we’d rally somehow. After missing Spilly’s slam in the 14th, I’m determined to never give it up before it’s really over. Man, this one sure feels like ’07 right now.
It's Seth Smith's world. The rest of us just live in it.
by rockhead on Sep 12, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
except we've been where we are for like a month now
give or take. No pixie dust here.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is Giambi's record with the Rockies?
He might have a better one than Cargo’s winning percentage when he starts :)
by amoeba on Sep 11, 2009 11:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
on the team, 10-1
Per our friends at McCovey Cove: The Rockies are 45604564-0 whenever they play baseball in the MLB. That just happens to be over 281509 season’s worth of baseball!
by realmenwearpurple on Sep 11, 2009 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to say,
thank you Heath Bell for grooving a fastball on a 2-2 count. You are my hero forever!
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 11, 2009 11:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It can't be lost how bad that pitch was
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 12, 2009 1:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it...
…but something tells me that there’s a new meme at Gaslamp Ball to go with “Holliday never touched the plate”…
by Chrysicat on Sep 11, 2009 11:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He broke the plane...HE BROKE THE PLANE!!!
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by Mondogarage on Sep 11, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, pffft.
There’s a little something called “letting go.” =P
by theshiva on Sep 11, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sportscenter top 10
Yorvit doesn’t make it…biiiiiiiig surprise
by tulotulotulo on Sep 11, 2009 11:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
pfft, who needs to watch west coast baseball when a record has been broken in New York
by djmbluemoon on Sep 11, 2009 11:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Helton set the record for rockies hits last night
That should have been on sportscenter
by tulotulotulo on Sep 11, 2009 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh
Helton is somewhere around 2113 hits right now.
Larry Walker is 2nd with 1361.
I guess there’s a joke there or something but I missed it.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
so every hit is a new record…
by tulotulotulo on Sep 12, 2009 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
point
good catch
Yay Helton clinks glass
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would be awesome if he can last long enought for 3000 hits
by Colsportsfan on Sep 12, 2009 12:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably will not, but I am not too disappointed
I am glad he has decided to play the game right and not take performance enhancers to increase his endurance. He deserves the Hall, if only for his respect of the baseball.
I would be devastated if I ever found Helton cheated. But, I really don’t believe he did.
by Mr. Rockie on Sep 12, 2009 12:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't even watch that show anymore
mlb network does a much better job.
and they actually realize baseball is played in more than 4 cities..
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 12, 2009 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How true this is, no need for ESPN when you have a real baseball channel
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by smokinRox on Sep 12, 2009 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
On an unrelated note,
when do you think we’ll start to hear the “Thong Song” at Coors Field?
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:00 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we realisticly start thinking about
The road to the NL pennant coming through Coors Field?
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by free7694 on Sep 12, 2009 12:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We'd need probably 96-97 wins for that (14-6/15-5) down the stretch...
it could happen.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Sep 12, 2009 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll have to go some to get either of those records
with series in San Francisco and in Los Angeles, and against St Louis, on the other hand, with two series against the two teams we’re chasing, it’s in our hands!
by djmbluemoon on Sep 12, 2009 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny,
with 34 games left I said we could go 24-10 if we were good. People on here laughed. I’m telling you, it’s perfectly doable.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 12:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying this team will win the NL West
division for awhile. And still think they will.
And probably…On the Road, In LA, the last weekend of the season. That would be epic.
by Redhawk on Sep 12, 2009 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that series were in Denver, I'd be more inclined to agree
but winning a series at Dodger Stadium could be tough. Then again, all the pressure would be on Los Angeles if we were within striking range.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 12, 2009 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's also important to note that we must be tied with Los Angeles going into that series
in order to finish ahead of them with anything less than a sweep
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 12, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, it is in our hands (sort of)
But I suspect we end up with about 94 wins and come up one or two short. The Dodgers have a ridiculously easy schedule coming up.
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 1:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we can be within a game
at game 159, we will be in good shape.
-Joe
"Let me see that thong, th-thong thong thong!" -Sisqo
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 1:15 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A WINNAR IZ US!!!
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Sep 12, 2009 12:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
THE ROCKIES ARE LOVE
(my other car is a cdr)
by ejskater on Sep 12, 2009 12:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, fantastic picture caption Rox Girl
Even Scrappiness couldn’t beat the Rockies on Friday night.
+2
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by oo_nrb on Sep 12, 2009 12:44 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Love my Rockies
Keep it up boys!
Also, I this is my first time posting, and I love this blog. You guys do a great job talking about the Rox.
"Yeeeeeeeah Rox! Yeeeeeah! We too hot! Can't stop us!" -- Some kid at Union Station after the play-in game in '07.Those words are as true today as the day they were spoken.
by roxinoct on Sep 12, 2009 12:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it
because we talk about the Rox and know baseball. Most people talk about their team but don’t know shit about the other teams or the sport as a whole.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 1:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, and please know...
I wasn’t trying to be snarky…it was a healthy discussion. But I’m sleepy and outta here…’night!
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by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2009 1:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
likewise
night!
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 1:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love to argue,
and I follow the Cards along with the Rockies. That is why I wouldn’t relent. I do think we are a good team, but still have a lot to prove. A lot of that Cards team has a ring to prove their experience.
-Joe
by jcn7vc on Sep 12, 2009 1:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this to me is a sign of true FAN
If you know your team, and follow that sport..you should know stuff about other teams. A good fan would be able to recognize good players on other teams, and good play…Not….“WELL….um….you SUKZ!!!” Which is what you get from any Red Sox fan or blog.
by Redhawk on Sep 12, 2009 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome!
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 12, 2009 1:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is one of the few games I entirely missed this season (due to a concert)....
But I’m watching the highlights now and condensed version when posted in the morning. Talk about an amazing turn around!!!!! GO ROXXXXXXXXXX
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by Hollidayrain on Sep 12, 2009 3:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Giambi with the web gem to end the game!
How overwhelming do you think it was for Mike McCoy when Giambi came over to him for a high five at the end of the game? haha
A very lackluster performance by our offense….but then again, it IS Petco Park
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