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Postseason Roster Eligibility Explanation


Just to be clear, I can't find the official postseason roster rules anywhere on the 'net. Information is, at best, sketchy. For whatever reason, MLB.com only has the official rules of gameplay, but not of rosters and everything that they involve.

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The clearest explanation I've found, though I don't believe that it is entirely accurate, is this, taken from a Detroit Tigers blog that is asking the same questions about postseason roster eligibility rules that we are:

 

To be eligible for a team’s playoff roster a player must be on either a)the 25 man active roster, b)the disabled list, c)the bereavement list, d)the suspended list as of August 31st at midnight.

Now, I could be wrong, but I do not believe that this is all-encompassing. Unless things have changed in the last two years, which they may have, I am nearly 100% certain that teams have the right to set their rosters prior to every series, meaning that the entire 40-man roster is eligible, regardless of position. An injury does come into play, apparently. The rule was changed prior to the 2008 playoffs to make the deadline for a playoff series roster later. It used to be that the rosters had to be made official the morning that the series was scheduled to start, regardless of weather interference. Now, the roster for a specific series doesn't become official until the lineup card is handed to the plate umpire prior to Game 1 of the series. This means that, if Game 1 is rained out before it starts, teams can still change their official series roster.

Drew Goodman and George Frazier seem to get asked this question every Tuesday on "E-mail the Booth" night, and they always say that any changes to the roster have to be A) due to an injury, and B) position-for-position. That is correct, but from the best that I can gather, that is only the case if it is a change in the middle of a series. Prior to a series beginning, any injured player can be replaced by any player on the 40-man roster, regardless of position. In the case of an injury in the middle of a series, a player does not have to have previously been on the 40-man roster in order to be eligible. He could be moved on to the 40-man roster to take the spot of an injured player. The only qualifier here is that he must have been in the Club's organization prior to the August 31 deadline and finished the season in that Club's organization. This means that, hypothetically, if Jason Hammel were to be injured during a series, Tyler Matzek could take his spot (just a hypothetical for the sake of clarity). The team also needs to receive approval from the commissioner if such a change were to take place.

From a conglomeration of a lot of sources the best that I can gather is this: in order to be eligible for postseason play without an injury, a player has to be on the team's 25-man roster or any of the lists mentioned in the blocked quote above as of August 31 at 11:59:59 PM EST. I could be way off on this, but since I can't find the rule expressly laid out anywhere on the internet, this is the best explanation I could come up with.

Now, regarding Jason Giambi's postseason eligibility, I do believe that he is eligible for the postseason roster based on the "injury" rule. It's kind of a keyhole in the rule, and again, I'm not 100% certain on this, but in order to make room for Giambi and Paul Phillips on the 40-man roster, the Rockies recalled Greg Smith and Greg Reynolds and placed them both on the 60-day disabled list, meaning that, technically, Giambi and Phillips are replacing injured players on the 25-man roster. It's not in the postseason, but I believe that this counts toward postseason injury credit.

If someone manages to find the rule (again, the official rule is MLB Rule 40a) or a clear explanation, it would be great if you would let everyone know. I don't want to convey inaccurate information, but this is the best I could piece things together.

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I really think....

…an injury has to come into play. the Rox can’t (as far as I understand) simply say “we’re leaving EY Jr off the post season roster and putting Giambi in” Now, if EY (or whoever) is legitimately hurt, that’s another story.

by BroJB on Sep 2, 2009 11:50 PM MDT reply actions  

cross-post from Coolopotamous's fanshot

which sites the identical article:

We’ve been through this already.

So I won’t repeat and link the stories I’ve linked already. I linked a 2007 story that quoted Boston’s director of baseball operations. At that point, the rule had been changed, and the position-for-position requirement was no longer required for changes made prior to the start of a series. This is how Seth Smith was able to make the 2007 playoff roster after Cook’s injury.

Perhaps the rule has changed again.

I think at this point, we’re better served finding actual sources, or ask someone who has access to sources to clarify (RIngolsby, Cots, MLBTR, etc.).

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Sep 3, 2009 12:10 AM MDT reply actions  

I think so too

Didn’t see the FanShot. It just seems that nobody anywhere, not even Bud Selig, knows the official rules.

"You were born to be a player. You were meant to be here. This moment is yours." -- Coach Herb Brooks' pregame speech prior to the Miracle on Ice

by wtnelson on Sep 3, 2009 12:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bud knows them

He just doesn’t share well with others. To me that’s pretty interesting, if you think about it. Why wouldn’t MLB publish their rules? A cycnical POV would be they want incredible flexibility in how they’re interpreted, they don’t want to be challenged on how they interpret them (particularly by fans), and don’t want to be held accountable (particularly for past inconsistent applications of them).

Patrick Saunders: I think Kruk is lazy.

by Rawktober on Sep 3, 2009 7:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Patrick Saunders: I think Kruk is lazy.

by Rawktober on Sep 3, 2009 7:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

and from the mouth of Ringolsby:
As for the post-season roster, the players on the disabled list are wild cards as far as replacing them. Most teams, in fact, will reduce the roster by at least one pitcher for the post-season because of the off days. The requirement is that the player placed on the post-season roster must have been in the organization prior to midnight EDT on Aug. 31. The replacement player does not need to be of the same position. The player can go on the DL in September. The idea is to make sure a team has a whole roster.

Patrick Saunders: I think Kruk is lazy.

by Rawktober on Sep 3, 2009 7:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes I saw that too.

Good guy, that Tracy Ringolsby.

by Justus on Sep 3, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Crazy

Good job tracking down all this information. I am surprised that there is no MLB policy that directly lists all the rules, but it sounds like they change a lot :-/

But anyway, thanks for the information! As Drew said a couple weeks ago, the Rox have only made 2 postseasons, so the fans are new to this whole postseason roster maneuvering.

As for Giambi, it sounds to me like they’re going to use someone on the DL to get Giambi on the playoff roster, as he was in the organization August 31.

Gladly sharing a name with Dexter Fowler!

by ShadowPenguin on Sep 3, 2009 9:47 AM MDT reply actions  

Speaking of making 2 postseasons

Does anyone know why there’s no mention of the 1995 wild card anywhere inside Coor’s Field (like there was in 1996)?
I think we should still be proud of that.

"There's nothing bad that accrues from baseball." — Bart Giamatti

by Nominal Egg on Sep 3, 2009 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Everyone complained about it

That was the first year of the WC, and baseball “purists” got mad when the Rockies put up the banner that said “Wild Card Champions”. Of course, in their minds, there should be no postseason, and winning the Wild Card isn’t actually winning anything.

A lot of Rockies fans also agreed, believe it or not, so the Rockies took it down 2 or 3 years ago.

"You were born to be a player. You were meant to be here. This moment is yours." -- Coach Herb Brooks' pregame speech prior to the Miracle on Ice

by wtnelson on Sep 3, 2009 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I actually agree.

Jazzed as I was about the Wild Card slot in 1995 (I was at the clinching game), I don’t think you can count it as any kind of a major win. A wild card berth simply means you were the best second-place team in the league – you only prove how good you are when you knock someone better out of the running, like we did in ’07 to take the NLCS.

So far, I think we can only claim respect for the ‘07 NL championship. And really, that’s an achievement worth touting for most people.

Now, as for the “purists” and their wish for an old-school one-shot pennant race, good luck with that. MLB makes a ton of money from the playoff TV rights, so I don’t see it changing back any time soon.

by Duncan1800 on Sep 5, 2009 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'd argue that the Wild Card is still a major win

Of all major sports, baseball allows the fewest teams into the postseason. Making the playoffs in baseball is more of an accomplishment than making it in the NBA or NHL. Even the NFL has two wild card berths.

But yeah, I’m glad they took down the old ’95 wild card banner, it looked ridiculous there all alone. If the Rox get a couple more playoff berths, then they should put it back up. Looks better as a series of years; ’95, ’07, ’09, etc :-)

Gladly sharing a name with Dexter Fowler!

by ShadowPenguin on Sep 8, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

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