Cardinals 6, Rockies 3: Cards' bench powers past Rox for division title
A night after the Rockies collected around first base to celebrate a walk-off win, St. Louis met midfield to celebrate clinching the NL Central at Coors Field after defeating the Rockies 6-3.
For the second straight start, Ubaldo Jimenez struggled in the first inning. For the second straight time, the Rockies rallied against one of the top starting pitchers in the game.
To start the game, Ubaldo walked Skip Schumaker on 7 pitches and Albert Pujols on six, the latter with an assist to home plate umpire Dan Iassogna. A bloop hit, ground ball and soft ground ball single later, and the Rockies were quickly down 3-0. The bad first inning raised Jimenez' first inning ERA to 5.91. But like last Sunday, Jimenez settled down, allowing just two hits and no runs the next five innings.
Jimenez' rebound helped Colorado mount a comeback against Adam Wainwright. In the third inning, Todd Helton laced a two-out double, one of his three hits on the evening. Troy Tulowitzki followed with a ground ball to third, scoring Helton when Joe Thurston airmailed the throw past first.
The comeback was complete just an inning later when Yorvit Torrealba led off the fourth with a single. Then up strode Brad Hawpe, who in the last 24 hours, was pinch-hit for in the ninth inning and dropped to seventh in the batting order. To the delight of Rockies fans everywhere, he deposited a Wainwright two-seamer into the left-field seats for his 21st home run of the season.
The score would remain tied until the seventh, when Ubaldo hung a slider to Jason LaRue, who was only in the game after an injury to Yadier Molina. LaRue hit it out to left for his second home run of the year and just his fourth RBI.
Ryan Ludwick added a pinch-hit two-run homer in the ninth off Matt Daley for the final score.
Comment of the Night
The umps
have won the kesselschlact.
by Russ on Sep 26, 2009 9:17 PM MDT
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WPA Heroes:
Brad Hawpe (.319) - 2-for-3, HR, 2B, BB, 2 RBI, R, K.
Todd Helton (.124) - 3-for-4, 2B, R, BB
Yorvit Torrealba (.063) - 2-for-4, R, K
WPA Zeroes:
Ubaldo Jimenez (-.236) - 7.0 IP, 4 ER, 6 H, 3 BB, 7 K. 0-for-3, 2 K.
Ian Stewart (-.216) - 0-for-5, 2 K
Dexter Fowler (-.124) - 0-for-4, K
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I got comment of the night!
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!
Sociological term
it means acting only in one’s own self-interest.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Well it is at least as I was thinking of it
Gesellschaft. That works too.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm a military/diplomatic historian, damnit.
Not a sociologist.
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!
Dammit, I thought he was a StarWars only sort of guy
yoda-like
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
Forgive me for attempting to clarify your opacities
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Battle of encirclement.
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
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that's my question
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
How can Spilborghs be a WPA zero
considering he didn’t play?
Also, you forgot the umps on that list.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
I think you're blinded by anger :)
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 26, 2009 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Dan Iassogna can get fucked. That's all.
Enjoy this for the five minutes it’s up. Felt good to type it anyway.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Sep 26, 2009 9:37 PM MDT reply actions 21 recs
Actually, I don't think he deserves anything that good...:P
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions 10 recs
I really want to turn both these comments green.
Never give up, never surrender.
lol...
for the first time since I’ve joined PR, I fear my comments being hidden or being banned…because that’s how freaking angry I am about this game
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I think he can get trucked, however
as in, run over by a semi.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that like being Kruk'd?
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or trucked to Siberia
Stalin-style
Never give up, never surrender.
The "Ef The Umps" comment
got something like 8 recs.
Trust me, the mods are human too. And right now we/I am spitting mad.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
In fact
rather than multiple f-bomb-containing posts, I advise you all to just rec one.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
Just got back from the game, and couldn't agree more with this comment.
How many awful third strikes have been called on Rockies hitters this month? When Helton is caught looking three times in one game, something’s up. Tonight, the call on Giambi was absolutely brutal. That goes along with horrendous calls all week behind the plate.
I still think this all goes back to the celebration following Spilly’s grand slam against the Giants August 24. All these blown calls can’t be a coincidence.
But the RISP numbers were awful tonight. They really knocked Wainwright around, but just couldn’t produce any RBI hits except for Hawpe.
by alex colfax on Sep 26, 2009 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
They do need to learn to protect on 2 strikes
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions
You're right...
This garbage with the plate umpires has been going on for nearly month now. They should definitely adjust and swing at anything remotely close once the count gets to two strikes. Don’t leave it to chance…that obviously hasn’t worked out at all.
by alex colfax on Sep 27, 2009 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions
hizilla and I were talking about this during the game
More Walks = More backwards K’s
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:25 AM MDT up reply actions
This is absolutely true
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 27, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions
But with control pitchers like Carpenter/Wainwright
you’re not likely to get walked, both because they throw strikes and the umps expect them to throw strikes. Go back to the game plan against Haren, where they burned him on first pitch.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 27, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions
14 recs so far...
most rec’d post in PR history?
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make that 17!
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by Hollidayrain on Sep 26, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Some of Iassogna's shaky strike zone and base calls (last night)...
will ensure him that he won’t get a postseason assignment in October.
and it may have ensured we don't either...
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I wouldn't mind if he called a Dodgers game w/o us facing them haha
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
They are instructed to like the Dodgers.
Selig needs that market.
If its Dodgers vs Phillies
I think they would like the Phillies more.
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Me too
too bad I don’t think I will get to use them, as I truly don’t think this is on the up and up anymore.
I made a FanPost asking that very question
I don’t think it is, either.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
I'm not throwing in the towel,,
I’m extremely disappointed and angry about the horrendous officiating….and it leaves me cold..
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I don't blame anyone for thinking so
but we are still the frontrunners and we still have a significant advantage. We can all voice our fears and concerns, but the basic fact is we are A-HEAD.
A new position for us, to be sure. (And extraneous circumstances are not making it easy to be a fan.) But I wouldn’t trade our current position for anything.
That is the fault of our early season start.
We dug our hole, we have to finish climbing out of it.
And I have never been more proud of a team than I am of this one. They earn everything themselves, no gifts.
I know what you are saying is true and logical..
It just feels like we are being screwed…its difficult…
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
go to sleep
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
Blown calls are part of the game. Every team gets screwed countless times in a season. It only sucks more right now since it’s the end of the season.
I would be just as pissed as you guys are with all the crappy calls, but really, crappy calls rarely decide a game.
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
If we do, that means John Kruck was right.
That would really piss me off
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions
read my sig line..lol
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I can't decide if someone is on the take or if we're just witnessing incompetence.
Either way it stinks.
Its gross incompetence
and if the league does nothing…doesn’t review etc…Then I will actually believe in SHENANIGANS!
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
Personlly I think we are witnessing a vendetta
for the umps to prove they can affect games and playoff teams. Don’t ever show them up by celebrating a walk of grand slam, before the run is counted as safe!
I don't even understand how that is disrespectful.
But i agree — something is definitely up.
I think we're witnessing....
why baseball should go to the electronic balls and strike system. When tennis officials realized that the game was getting too fast to depend on the naked eye, they went electronic. Now you have guys breaking of 90 mph sliders and baseball needs to think the same way.
It’s crazy to leave the fate of entire seasons up to the subjective eyes of umpires, especially when what they’re ruling on is purely objective: the rule book clearly states a strike zone. Either a pitch is in it or its not. There shouldn’t be any room for “judgment” call s on something that shouldn’t require any judgment.
We’ve got the technology. We should use it.
(PS: I’ve felt this way for a long time. Tonight’s game was just another example of why I think it, but not the reason)
It'll never happen
Selig wants a flexible strike zone. Otherwise, your big-name hitters like Pujols get struck out looking too much, and your big-name pitchers don’t get to “finesse the zone” like all the Braves pitchers used to get to do.
It'll never happen ....
…because the umpires would probably strike over it. And the purists (who live happily with the DH) will raise a stink.
let the umps strike
I mean, they would be all but unemployed anyway.
I’m pissed sorry.
by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
last time they struck
the replacement umps were much better
they had real strike zones and everything…
watch this space for a soon to be created clever remark....
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 26, 2009 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure how I feel about this..
I think the better answer, is train the umpires better and severely punish for grievous errors like we’ve seen recently.
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
You rarely see Drew Goodman complain about umps
When the umps miss a call, he always has the same response: “The umpires have a very difficult job, and they do a wonderful job, getting 98% of the calls right. Sometimes they miss one.”
But last night, he really got on Iassogna for that missed third strike on Pujols in the first inning…and that was the first inning….no build up of frustration from several innings
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 27, 2009 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Jeff & Jack are mostly the same way.
They rarely get worked up about it and rarely complain. But the last couple nights they’ve done more of it than usual. I think some of it is the heightened pressure given the WC chase. But some of it is also the bad calls in critical situations.
another arguement for me to have it
Sports should be fair, and the same game for everyone. That’s what to me SPORTS is! anyone gets the same shot and the same….for all. If you perform, great…if you don’t…then fine….but it’s fair play.
I hope you can use them...
Can’t believe this WC is still close
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
any interesting updates from the postgame report?
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
no
real generic.
there is no must win when you are ahead. and we are ahead.
there were some questionable strike calls, but thats neither here nor there
Sort of
You can tell Tracy’s pissed about the umps, he’s just not the type of guy to get real overtly fired-up about it.
I hope he files a complaint though
"Admirably obsessive." - Uni Watch, March 24th, 2009
NA34 | HK | RMN
I wish he'd get fired up about it
and show his team that he really cares
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2009 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions
To heck with fines!
He can afford it. Call these guys out. I’m sick and tired of these crapola umps. Selig can kiss my can.
Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.
That's obvious....
considering no Rockies player has been ejected from a game this season, and they don’t want to start now, avoiding any possible suspensions during the final week.
I agree...money isn't the issue
its the suspensions…which sucks
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I mean seriously MLB will notice things....
when a player or manager gets kicked out because of bad umpiring….they need to call these fools out, this way we get rid of the bad eggs and have more consistency better called game
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
what is he saying?
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I just caught him
Talking about the one he left up there for Chesty Larue, how it was his first at bat and they picked the wrong pitch to start and he left it out there.
I was more talking about his demeanor. He was visibly shaken and choked up. I really hope that emotion goes to a good place, and not to a bad one, in his next start.
awww...Ubaldo...
needs a group hug
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
what is he saying?
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
Hell, I would be too
If the umpire handed the other team three runs in my first inning of work.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
Renck wussed out on calling out the umps more severely
He wrote in a way that made the Rox seem like whiners…and he didn’t really go into depth about how the strike zone directly negatively impacted the Rockies..
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I didn't read it as him calling the Rockies whiners
just that you can’t blame this game all on them.
maybe so..
but I do think he let them off the hook pretty easily…
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
he gernally makes fair points about the Rox lack of hitting....
…but he glosses over entirely that missed call on Pujols in the first that changed the complexion of the game. That was perhaps the critical moment in the ballgame.
i almost completely avoided it
I figured you all knew
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 26, 2009 10:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I just used the contact page on MLB.com to write this
I know it won’t help, but I figured it couldn’t hurt.
To Whom it May Concern:
Having watched the Rockies games over the last few days, it is very clear to see that several of your umpires, Dan Iasogna in particular, seem to have something against the Rockies. There have been many missed calls, obvious ones at that, that have gone against the Rockies in key moments. I don’t know the reason behind it, but a bias exists.
It may stem from an incident on Aug. 24 involving Angel Campos. Another possibility, which I hope is not the case, would be an effort by Major League Baseball to keep the small-market Rockies out of the playoffs.
This is an issue that must be addressed if the league and its umpires want to keep their good reputation. Please do so quickly.
Sincerely,
A Colorado Rockies Fan
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 9:57 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
It would make a better impact
attached to a brick and thrown through Bud Selig’s office window.
-Joe
"Let me see that thong, th-thong thong thong!" -Sisqo
LOL!!!!! THIS!!
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
some cuss words might make it more noticable :P
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I was trying to be nice and maybe actually get a response of some sort
Even an auto-generated one would be nice.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
Yeah cuss words
would make it too easy to dismiss as the typical internet troll.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
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by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure about the Person of Interest..
unless you are meaning it in the FBI use of the term…lol
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
P.S.
We now have your IP, so don’t think we don’t know where you are. Any further correspondence of this nature will be viewed as terrorist activity, and acted upon accordingly.
Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.
Good
I hope MLB hunts me down, I’ll tell them how I really feel.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
DINGERS DINGERS DINGERS DINGERS
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by Hollidayrain on Sep 26, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions
"Dear MLB"
“We didn’t score enough runs, so bad calls decided more of our game than it should.
Sincerely,
Whine whine whine"
I’m frustrated too, but you know that your contact is going to be regarded like this. I mean, I’m with you in spirit, but this just seems like we’re whining.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions
In an attempt at the rational...
Umpiring aside, we had major fail with RISP and our pitchers followed the not-so-grand Rockies tradition of 2-out-itis tonight. I have no idea why this “itis” continues to be a problem, but somebody better figure out how to fix it. Our pitching staff has been unable to close out innings for far too long now. I’m sure there’s a stat out there somewhere about this, but I wouldn’t know where to look. Get the third out guys. Quit the nibbling and the over-throwing. Gah.
Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.
I'm trying to console myself
with the fact that we were facing the likely Cy Young winner, but it’s still not working.
God how I wish the Braves would lose tomorrow, that Good JDLR will show up, and the umps will only screw us moderately.
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
THIS!
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I have to wonder if the EpicUmpFail..factored into our RISP issues tonight..
If you aren’t getting the calls, and you dont know what the hell to swing at…just wondering
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
I've seen that happen before
But it was a 4th tier college summer league where the umps were clueless.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
On a different note....
…can we once forever bury the truism that “you can’t through curveballs at altitude”? Wainright’s hook was plain sick tonight. And he can throw it for a strike -and sometimes not for a strike but get the call anyway:)
Wainwright's hook is usually sick
but having the umps on your side helps too.
(Yes! I am still very mad!)
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
to be honest, Wainwright didn't seem his best tonight...
we smack him around quite a bit and ump help him out as well.
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Even not at his best....
he’s damned good. And his hook is what got him out of trouble tonight. That’s a fabulous pitch.
I dunno about that
Wainwright was pretty “on” tonight. Even with some of the questionable K’s taken out, he still had 8 or 9 of them and threw 130 pitches. He pitched a damn good game.
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NA34 | HK | RMN
it's a much better pitch
when all you have to do is get it close and it’s called a strike….
watch this space for a soon to be created clever remark....
by RockyMtnCat on Sep 26, 2009 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions
well this game was very well played and felt like an October atmosphere
but damn the umps suck…but oh well hopefully the cardinals waste a lot of energy celebrating tonight and lay an egg on the field tomorrow…and can somebody beat the braves…seriously…i think once they lose once that will be it for them and there beliefs of making it
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
DO NOT CHOKE THIS LEAD PLEASE
Can anybody find a gameday of giambi's K?
worked the entire game, never got to see how bad the call was
on Gameday it shows it as a low strike..
but on TV it was below the knees
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Hell, gameday is probably siding with the umpires as well as MLB
Not surprised to hear that gameday showed a strike though, they have a knack for trying to make umpires look good
by Jay Doubleyou on Sep 26, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
It was a breaking ball that broke sharply....
and ended up crossing Giambi about three inches below the knee. Awful, awful call.
Looked horrible from left field
is that 3 inches on the front leg or the back?
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
yea if you can see that as a ball from left feild...
then the ump obviously missed it on purpose because this game was fixed.
by Colsportsfan on Sep 27, 2009 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions
I have this crazy technology that I had with me in Coors Field
called an “eye phone” and it has an “app” on it that shows me the strike zone and where pitches fall.
It was a horrible call.
Looked horrible from left field
is that 3 inches on the front leg or the back?
I fail to see where jrockies said the game was fixed.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
how does the i phone app show something different than gameday?
Gameday said in was right down the middle and a couple inches above the bottom of the zone
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 8:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
On another note.....
Can I enjoy one Rockies game in which I don’t have to yell “PROTECT THE #&$&#^ PLATE!” at a Rox hitter as he walks back to the dugout after a backwards K in a key situation?
Congrats, Clint Barmes, you were tonight’s lucky recipient of my wrath.
Can some, anyone please instill a decent two strike approach on this team?
No, protect the plate.
Foul pitches off (or at least attempt to) when you’re down in the count. It’s something you see Todd Helton do every game. Spilly is also excellent at.
I get being locked up, but you’ve got to have an approach. Good two strike hitters (Dante Bichette was superb at this) widen their stances, cut down their swings and wait for a pitch they can handle. Too many of our guys treat a two strike count as if they’re up 3-1 and watch strike 3 sail by because it wasn’t the pitch they were guessing.
thats what i meant...
you can’t look at a border line strike pitch and “hope” the ump will call it a ball. 50% of time they will ring you up.
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Their bts aren't long enough
The plate was a yard wide tonight when the Rockies were up in key situations.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
Barmes took a legit strike 3
he was guessing and got caught. With two strikes, guess less, protect more. Heck, my Little league coach told me that.
Well, as far as sports go, this day totally sucked
My college football team, UNC (the Bears, not the Tar Heels), completely embarrassed themselves today and then this game happened.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
Hey I'm a Bear too!
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
LOL!! They beat the USD Toreros!!
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
And the USD Toreros should be embarrassed.
We’ve won 4 games since I got to campus. I’m a senior.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
I'm an alumni...I won't say how far back...
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
CSU lost too...
they tried but turnovers and the defense couldn’t hold up has cost them
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Better than UNC
105 yards of total offense today. Against a team that isn’t all that good.
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
My UNC Tarheels
Didn’t fare any better. But then, the football team rarely does. Bring on the hoops, I say!
Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.
Watching an Ozzie Guillen rant from tonight
What would he have said if he was in Tracy’s place tonight?
Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.
He would have gotten so fired up
they would have had to send the reporter to the moon to follow him.
-Joe
"Let me see that thong, th-thong thong thong!" -Sisqo
he would have been tossed...
suspended for like 2 weeks..
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
he would have had fist fight with the ump...
cussing and swearing in Spanish telling him what a loser he is
by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I would so LOVE to see that happen...
Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!
Guillen would've succeeded where Tracy FAILED.
tracy’s done virtually everything right in his tenure here, but what happened—or didn’t happen—tonight was pretty disappointing. there were enough questionable (aka BAD) calls leading up to the horrible giambi-at-the-shins call, that tracy NEEDED to be out there, in the ump’s face. i don’t care if tracy was okay with the call, i don’t care if it’s not in line with tracy’s mild personality, i don’t care if tracy was drunk or on sleeping pills— I DON’T CARE. dude NEEDED to be out there up in the ump’s grill, like a real major league manager, TRYING to get kicked out of the game to show his team he’ll take a hit for them. this is the manager’s DUTY, for pete’s freaking sake!
sorry, it just is. you let me down, jim tracy. don’t do it again.
at the game. section 131 11 rows behind the plate.
that was the absolute worst home plate umpire I have ever seen, and I’ve been sitting that close watching Angel Hernandez before.
I was pissed off, people around me were pissed off, the Rockies were apparently pissed off.
I was waiting for Tracy to blow up, why did he not?
Disappointed with you tonight, Jim. and still pissed off.
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2009 11:17 PM MDT reply actions
agreed so much
yes, yes, I get it. We’re coming to the end of the season and the Magic Number is sitting at 6, the Braves play against the Natinals forever, the sky is falling etc etc. I’m right there with the rest of the fans/people on the bandwagon. But I want to see some real passion in this team! and not just from the players jumping up and down when we get a walkoff. I want to see Tracy out there in the umpires face, kicking some dirt around and saying things his mother would be ashamed of. I just want to see some rage! This team isn’t going to get anywhere being Mr.Nice Guys. Today in the dugout after that bad call during Giambi’s at bat was a nice start, but we need to take it a step further. Normally I wouldn’t be promoting this, but the amount of bad calls are starting to cross the line. Also, I’m very tired, angry at my brother, am nursing my hand that I badly burnt accidentaly touching the froth-thingy on my moms espresso machine, and just in general feel like the sky is falling and it’s 2012 and the world is about to end, and probably am in no condition to be posting on here. but it’s just so upsetting to see this happen. I wonder how many bad calls it takes in a series to become more than just a coincidence. I guess all I can hope is that we see some more fairness tomorrow. That, and a Braves loss.
/rant
by Rockie4Ever on Sep 26, 2009 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I should never know the name of the ump, but I know 3
Angel Campos
Angel Hernandez
and now Dan Iasogna
This game really really burns me. I still think something fishy is going on with the umpiring, and that really really !#%$# me off! That kind a crap will ruin my favorite sport for me.
After the umpiring tonight,
I kind of miss Hernandez.
by Rockie4Ever on Sep 26, 2009 11:39 PM MDT up reply actions
My first post on these boards consists of the following statements:
1) I’m a Rockies fan.
2) There is no umpiring fix in for or against the Rockies or any other team.
3) Tracy making a stink/getting ejected would have no positive effect on the outcome of the game.
by Rutabaga on Sep 26, 2009 11:38 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
awesome thanks we'll all stop venting frustration now
seriously, welcome, but just let everyone work it off.
It’s not so much that we legitimately think about a big umpire’s meeting (I’m picturing the Janitor’s closet in Scrubs) with them all saying “hm how can we dick the Rockies over tonight?”
It’s more that we “showed them up” and so while they aren’t consciously thinking “screw Rockies” it might be something in the back of their minds, more a feeling than a conscious thought.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions
See, I agree with you about a potential subconscious, back of the mind thing.
But there are plenty of people in here who think it’s more than that.
Of whom I am definitely not one, I should clarify.
I just don’t buy the conspiracy theories, so all the stuff that goes beyond a little venting just makes me roll my eyes.
I blame the NBA
Now that one official in one top-tier sport has been busted for being on the take, now they’re all in suspicion. I mean, they were before as well, but now we have “something” to go on.
I don’t want an automated B/S system, I want to see consistency in umpiring.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Absolutely agreed
The league would not want such a scandal, so it wouldn’t ‘come from higher up.’ The NBA thing wasn’t a vendetta, nor a league desire for ratings, but a guy’s personal gambling problem.
Heh.
I could be down with blaming Tim Donaghey (or however that’s spelled). But really I think it’s just fan mentality. Sports fans seem far more prone to conspiracy theorizing than any other segment of the population.
So yeah, one guy gets busted, and suddenly everyone’s all, “I knew it! They’re all corrupt!”
hence the "something"
I don’t really believe it, it just makes me feel somewhat vindicated for about 30 seconds to think “buncha crooked rats, they’re all in on this”
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:24 AM MDT up reply actions
The NBA's rap
is more than just one guy on the take. The reputation of the league fixing/rigging/manipulating games through the officiating goes back to the 1970s. Getting playoff series to go extra games, for the drama and extra TV ratings and ticket sales. Getting teams with higher TV ratings to advance, etc. Fixing drafts to get either marquis players to big markets (Ewing to NY) or getting a great player to a team that is about to go under (LeBron to Cleveland)
The NBA was known for being only slightly more a real sporting event than the WWE.
And sadly that’s what the last 2 nights have looked like to me for the Rockies.
by Redhawk on Sep 27, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
The reputation has been there for awhile, true.
But nothing has ever been proven, and even in the NBA I don’t buy the conspiracy theories. And I don’t think most fans truly do, either. It’s just that more do and people are far more vocal about it.
No. But I still buy fixing for the NBA or MLB or any of the other major sports.
Something would have come out by now.
And anyone that thinks pro-wrestling is real is in a very small minority.
It’s the other way around, I think, for the NBA, etc.
Yeah, I'm frustrated, too
but unless the umps are unlike 99% of every other responsible working person I know, their overriding concern is to satisfy their employer, who evaluates their performance in every game, down to each call, and pitch.
Hm
so you’re saying Bud Selig doesn’t want the Rockies to win?
I agree that the bad calls are just part of the game. What raises my eyebrow is that it’s not like they’re missing a 1-1 pitch in the 4th, they’re ringing up our stud PH in the 8th and calling our speedy CF out when he was safe by a step in the …8th as well, I think.
Point is, these seem to be really high leverage situations that are being botched. Coincidence? Probably. Am I wearing a tinfoil hat? Most assuredly.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Just got back from the game
It was definitely a playoff atmosphere as it was sold out, and everyone was given the rally towels when entering and used them quite a bit.
I was sitting in an area that had video screens up where they had monitors up, showing the FSN video feed. For most of the game everyone was pretty ticked off at the bad ump calls. What was interesting is just as the TV feed was about to show the Giambi pitch replay, suddenly all of the screens went blank. Someone definitely didn’t want the fans to see that replay for some reason.
On the positive side, the offense seems to be doing better, especially Barmes & Hawpe tonight. Even being down 3 runs, it never felt they were out of it. One monster hit in the 8th or 9th could’ve tied it.
I was surprised they left Wainright in so long, but they obviously wanted the clinch. Just like game 161 in 2007, I got to be at the stadium to watch the opposing team celebrate. Tonight wasn’t nearly as bad as 2007 thought, since it felt that the season was over (falling 2 out with 2 to play).
I’m predicting a Rockies win tomorrow, and a Braves loss to reset the standings to where they were.
actually, not quite sold out
but yeah……I know what you mean. We’ve gotta conjur up some Matsui magic and slap Lohse around tomorrow.
Oh, and if there are bad calls tomorrow, I think this umpiring crew is gonna have a hard time getting out of town with their heads screwed on.
"There are only two important things in life: baseball and breathing. But at least you can survive without breathing for 3 minutes."
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by Hollidayrain on Sep 27, 2009 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Man
I’m glad I had to miss this one, sounded like a frustrating nightmare. That said, the umps are going to do what they do and their ain’t a damn thing to be done about it save win games despite them. Gotta get one tomorrow, Braves ain’t losing.
All right Rockies and Livan Hernandez
WIN TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!
(my other car is a cdr)
by ejskater on Sep 27, 2009 12:01 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Was at the game
Other than the bad strike calls (not calls?) the teams played well. The Cards had a few really big hits to give them the win. The Rockies were unable to EXECUTE with RISP and it was quite frustrating. Good defense.
I was two rows behind the spot that Hawpe hit his bomb and Ludwick hit his in the exact same spot. I almost had both balls but they died before they got to me and I didn’t want to try and jump over the 5 people sitting in front of me.
Listening to everyone venting makes me feel better. Thanks.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
On a side not
Congratulations to the Cardinals!! You clinched now let us win so we can join you in October.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
you should've texted me or something
I was there with hizilla
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Didn't know this
I’m disappointed because this was the last game I can go to unless we make it to the playoffs, since classes run my life during the week.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
Something else that bugged me:
I was sitting with a bunch of Cardinals fans and I was having a great conversation with the guy to my right. In the 6th inning some guy comes into the row and says that he has seat 12 (I’m in 13). The people I was talking to were in the wrong row (4 when they should have been in 3). This guy made them move so he could sit there with his binoculars and watch the game. He then left after the 6th inning and I did not see him until the bottom of the 9th. This was the dumbest thing because it was harder to hold a conversation with the guy in front of you than the same buy beside you. I absolutely hate people like this.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
look at all those red dots out of the zone...
by Colsportsfan on Sep 27, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions
But it was inconsistent for both pitchers,
and Ubaldo had a ton of gifts below the strike zone
Never give up, never surrender.
How many of those
Were swinging strikes at pitches that broke out of the zone? I know Uball got a ton like that.
that's why I didn't say much else about it
green dots in the zone I get more pissed at than red dots outside, simply because I can’t distinguish a poor call, a foul ball, or a swinging strike.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
A combination of factors why we lost:
1. Two doubles with no outs in a tie game and not moving the runners over in either case is just bad baseball; Barmes in the 4th followed by Jimenez fail (or perhaps Tracy fail) and Hawpe in the 6th followed by Barmes fail (or perhaps Tracy fail).
2. RISP problems,
3. Ump problems (I followed the game on the internet so I have to take everyone’s word for it).
4. Ubaldo’s continued inability to control his emotions / nerves early in a game
May the Rockies bring me to paydirt!
I'd have PH for Ubaldo in the bottom of the 6th
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Seth Smith
would have been good in that situation, or so I thought. Maybe Spilly or McCoy or…
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
exactly, we were all up in arms a few days ago
over Tracy having Hammel hit and then pull him two batters (one out) later and rightly so. while not as bad, it wasn’t a whole lot different. ubaldo had already thrown 95 pitches, so realistically he probably only has one inning more and it was the perfect time to bring in a reliever as the reliever would get the bottom of the order. this isn’t hindsight on my part, i was calling for a barmes bunt followed by a seth smith pinch-hit for the sac fly. i disagree with the notion of letting barmes hit because he had already had two doubles. i mean it is barmes and it is wainwright, the percentages would dictate a bunt in that spot.
May the Rockies bring me to paydirt!
But have you seen our bullpen lately?
Seriously, I don’t fault Tracy for really wanting to get just one more inning out of U-Ball, given how bad most of our 7th inning options have been over the last week or so.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
I was concerned about this game....
You have to think that facing two Cy Young candidates in a row, you’re not going to come through completely unscathed. I’d like to sue the schedule makers, actually; while we get the NL Central champions, the Braves get the biggest throwaway team for seven games.
We just win today, and we’ll be good. We don’t win and I’ll be concerned.
Carlos Gonzalez is a sexy man
This schedule was made like 2-3 years ago
Had the Nats been .475 team, I don’t think we’d be this up in arms about it. Esp. if the Cards and Brewers were tanking and like the Cubs or Astros were ruling the Central.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
They start making
the schedule a year in advance. They send preliminary schedules to the teams for review and then they go back and make changes. The final schedule is the one the fans see (which came out a short period of time ago for 2010)
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
I too was at the game...
Section 117, Row 11. I could see the pitches as they broke below the Rockies’ knees… and of course, the one to Giambi was well below his knees. I was upset after that.
Overall, like someone else mentioned, the Rockies were playing well (all minus the RISP aspect). Defense was good and loved the atmosphere. Need a win in the worst way, boys!
I got nothing.
I hope that we get all of our bitching and moaning out in one thread...
I’m tired of reading it. Let’s win ballgames.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Sep 27, 2009 9:10 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
THIS
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
DO NOT CHOKE THIS LEAD PLEASE
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 27, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Then don't read it
you don’t think fans have a right to express their frustration? I get damn tired of people, telling me I’m suppose to be all f’n sunshine when the team I like is taking tough loss after tough loss.
This is the first time you've heard it from me.
It’s a gradual build-up that has developed over the last week mixing paranoia and conspiracy theorists into an unholy mass of whining.
I’m not saying don’t express your frustrations. I’m saying express your frustrations in a meaningful way (AKA don’t direct it at the umpires or OMG TEH BRAVEZ WILL NEVER LOSE WE’RE DOOMED). Quite frankly, it annoys the hell out of me. Let’s talk about the Rockies (yes, 0-13 RISP IS bad) instead.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Sep 27, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions
0-13 is going to pretty much guarantee a loss, no matter how you look at it.
OTOH, there have been some shitty, shitty calls the last two nights. And that’s a morale killer. It’s not so much “we could have won last night had the calls gone our way” as “well the Rockies could have had an opportunity there had the ump not blown that call.”
Your point is well taken. The team needs to play better baseball and capitalize on the opportunities they do have. The umpire crew are becoming the scapegoats.
Never give up, never surrender.
I think he means outside of this thread
don’t be “OMG THE CONSPIRACY CONTINUES” in today’s game thread.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions
meaning that if there's a borderline strike/ball, shut up
but if it’s another Dex-is-on-the-bag-and-the-ball-is-2-feet-out-of-pujols’-glove, then that’s its own bag
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
My Junior High
social studies teacher did too. If he heard it in class the person had to do 20 pushups. Kind of amusing considering he was the football coach and he caught some athletes saying it; he then made them do their pushups correctly or they had to do more.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
Couldn't have said it better
rec’d
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
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