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Cardinals 6, Rockies 3: Cards' bench powers past Rox for division title

A night after the Rockies collected around first base to celebrate a walk-off win, St. Louis met midfield to celebrate clinching the NL Central at Coors Field after defeating the Rockies 6-3.

For the second straight start, Ubaldo Jimenez struggled in the first inning.  For the second straight time, the Rockies rallied against one of the top starting pitchers in the game.

To start the game, Ubaldo walked Skip Schumaker on 7 pitches and Albert Pujols on six, the latter with an assist to home plate umpire Dan Iassogna.  A bloop hit, ground ball and soft ground ball single later, and the Rockies were quickly down 3-0.  The bad first inning raised Jimenez' first inning ERA to 5.91.  But like last Sunday, Jimenez settled down, allowing just two hits and no runs the next five innings.

Jimenez' rebound helped Colorado mount a comeback against Adam Wainwright.  In the third inning, Todd Helton laced a two-out double, one of his three hits on the evening.  Troy Tulowitzki followed with a ground ball to third, scoring Helton when Joe Thurston airmailed the throw past first.  

87 - 68

 6.0 GB

  2.5 Game Lead

 Lost 1

Pyth W-L:  86-69

Magic #: 6


The comeback was complete just an inning later when Yorvit Torrealba led off the fourth with a single.  Then up strode Brad Hawpe, who in the last 24 hours, was pinch-hit for in the ninth inning and dropped to seventh in the batting order.  To the delight of Rockies fans everywhere, he deposited a Wainwright two-seamer into the left-field seats for his 21st home run of the season.

The score would remain tied until the seventh, when Ubaldo hung a slider to Jason LaRue, who was only in the game after an injury to Yadier Molina.  LaRue hit it out to left for his second home run of the year and just his fourth RBI.

Ryan Ludwick added a pinch-hit two-run homer in the ninth off Matt Daley for the final score.  

Comment of the Night

The umps

have won the kesselschlact.

by Russ on Sep 26, 2009 9:17 PM MDT 

Join after the jump for the fangraph and the row call. 

 

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WPA Heroes:
Brad Hawpe (.319) - 2-for-3, HR, 2B, BB, 2 RBI, R, K.
Todd Helton (.124) - 3-for-4, 2B, R, BB
Yorvit Torrealba (.063) - 2-for-4, R, K

WPA Zeroes:
Ubaldo Jimenez (-.236) -  7.0 IP, 4 ER, 6 H, 3 BB, 7 K.  0-for-3, 2 K.
Ian Stewart (-.216) - 0-for-5, 2 K
Dexter Fowler (-.124) - 0-for-4, K


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I got comment of the night!

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Sep 26, 2009 9:34 PM MDT reply actions  

Ok, but what's a kesselschlact?

-Joe

"Let me see that thong, th-thong thong thong!" -Sisqo

by jcn7vc on Sep 26, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sociological term

it means acting only in one’s own self-interest.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well it is at least as I was thinking of it

Gesellschaft. That works too.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm a military/diplomatic historian, damnit.

Not a sociologist.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ Oates on Sep 26, 2009 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dammit, I thought he was a StarWars only sort of guy

yoda-like

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

That would be quite the career choice

and only slightly less profitable than historian…

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Battle of encirclement.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

that's my question

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

How can Spilborghs be a WPA zero

considering he didn’t play?

Also, you forgot the umps on that list.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 9:35 PM MDT reply actions  

I think you're blinded by anger :)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 26, 2009 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn right I am

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol...

for the first time since I’ve joined PR, I fear my comments being hidden or being banned…because that’s how freaking angry I am about this game

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think he can get trucked, however

as in, run over by a semi.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is that like being Kruk'd?

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

I said it post-game

Dan Iassogna needs to join Dinger in that Fire.

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

The "Ef The Umps" comment

got something like 8 recs.

Trust me, the mods are human too. And right now we/I am spitting mad.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

In fact

rather than multiple f-bomb-containing posts, I advise you all to just rec one.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just got back from the game, and couldn't agree more with this comment.

How many awful third strikes have been called on Rockies hitters this month? When Helton is caught looking three times in one game, something’s up. Tonight, the call on Giambi was absolutely brutal. That goes along with horrendous calls all week behind the plate.

I still think this all goes back to the celebration following Spilly’s grand slam against the Giants August 24. All these blown calls can’t be a coincidence.

But the RISP numbers were awful tonight. They really knocked Wainwright around, but just couldn’t produce any RBI hits except for Hawpe.

by alex colfax on Sep 26, 2009 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

You're right...

This garbage with the plate umpires has been going on for nearly month now. They should definitely adjust and swing at anything remotely close once the count gets to two strikes. Don’t leave it to chance…that obviously hasn’t worked out at all.

by alex colfax on Sep 27, 2009 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is absolutely true

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 27, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

But with control pitchers like Carpenter/Wainwright

you’re not likely to get walked, both because they throw strikes and the umps expect them to throw strikes. Go back to the game plan against Haren, where they burned him on first pitch.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 27, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

14 recs so far...

most rec’d post in PR history?

"Admirably obsessive." - Uni Watch, March 24th, 2009
NA34 | HK | RMN

by oo_nrb on Sep 26, 2009 11:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

make that 17!

"There are only two important things in life: baseball and breathing. But at least you can survive without breathing for 3 minutes."
www.soundclick.com/hollidayrain

by Hollidayrain on Sep 26, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Some of Iassogna's shaky strike zone and base calls (last night)...

will ensure him that he won’t get a postseason assignment in October.

by CM85 on Sep 26, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions  

and it may have ensured we don't either...

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

If its Dodgers vs Phillies

I think they would like the Phillies more.

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nah

Dodgers win it in 6, on a Ramirez heroic that propels them back into a World Series with Boston. There are too many storylines there for MLB to avoid.

"Admirably obsessive." - Uni Watch, March 24th, 2009
NA34 | HK | RMN

by oo_nrb on Sep 26, 2009 11:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

On the plus side,

I just received my playoff tickets in my email…?

And I get to sleep tonight!

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Me too

too bad I don’t think I will get to use them, as I truly don’t think this is on the up and up anymore.

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

I made a FanPost asking that very question

I don’t think it is, either.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

C'mon guys!

Would you all honestly rather trade positions with the Braves?

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes

They have the umpires on their side, we have them working against us

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Depends

Do we get their umps and the Nationals a half-dozen times?

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes

they have a bigger TV market

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I think my sunny disposition has found itself in the wrong thread

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not throwing in the towel,,

I’m extremely disappointed and angry about the horrendous officiating….and it leaves me cold..

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't blame anyone for thinking so

but we are still the frontrunners and we still have a significant advantage. We can all voice our fears and concerns, but the basic fact is we are A-HEAD.

A new position for us, to be sure. (And extraneous circumstances are not making it easy to be a fan.) But I wouldn’t trade our current position for anything.

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

That is the fault of our early season start.

We dug our hole, we have to finish climbing out of it.

And I have never been more proud of a team than I am of this one. They earn everything themselves, no gifts.

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know what you are saying is true and logical..

It just feels like we are being screwed…its difficult…

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Glad I was, at the very least, logical

My brain hurts and I am starting to hallucinate.

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

go to sleep

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Blown calls are part of the game. Every team gets screwed countless times in a season. It only sucks more right now since it’s the end of the season.

I would be just as pissed as you guys are with all the crappy calls, but really, crappy calls rarely decide a game.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Sep 26, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

read my sig line..lol

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Its gross incompetence

and if the league does nothing…doesn’t review etc…Then I will actually believe in SHENANIGANS!

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Personlly I think we are witnessing a vendetta

for the umps to prove they can affect games and playoff teams. Don’t ever show them up by celebrating a walk of grand slam, before the run is counted as safe!

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we're witnessing....

why baseball should go to the electronic balls and strike system. When tennis officials realized that the game was getting too fast to depend on the naked eye, they went electronic. Now you have guys breaking of 90 mph sliders and baseball needs to think the same way.

It’s crazy to leave the fate of entire seasons up to the subjective eyes of umpires, especially when what they’re ruling on is purely objective: the rule book clearly states a strike zone. Either a pitch is in it or its not. There shouldn’t be any room for “judgment” call s on something that shouldn’t require any judgment.

We’ve got the technology. We should use it.

(PS: I’ve felt this way for a long time. Tonight’s game was just another example of why I think it, but not the reason)

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would have fought that tooth and nail

but after tonights game, I’m completely and 100% on board

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

It'll never happen

Selig wants a flexible strike zone. Otherwise, your big-name hitters like Pujols get struck out looking too much, and your big-name pitchers don’t get to “finesse the zone” like all the Braves pitchers used to get to do.

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

It'll never happen ....

…because the umpires would probably strike over it. And the purists (who live happily with the DH) will raise a stink.

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

last time they struck

the replacement umps were much better

they had real strike zones and everything…

watch this space for a soon to be created clever remark....

by RockyMtnCat on Sep 26, 2009 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not sure how I feel about this..

I think the better answer, is train the umpires better and severely punish for grievous errors like we’ve seen recently.

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

You rarely see Drew Goodman complain about umps

When the umps miss a call, he always has the same response: “The umpires have a very difficult job, and they do a wonderful job, getting 98% of the calls right. Sometimes they miss one.”

But last night, he really got on Iassogna for that missed third strike on Pujols in the first inning…and that was the first inning….no build up of frustration from several innings

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 27, 2009 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jeff & Jack are mostly the same way.

They rarely get worked up about it and rarely complain. But the last couple nights they’ve done more of it than usual. I think some of it is the heightened pressure given the WC chase. But some of it is also the bad calls in critical situations.

by holly96 on Sep 27, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

another arguement for me to have it

Sports should be fair, and the same game for everyone. That’s what to me SPORTS is! anyone gets the same shot and the same….for all. If you perform, great…if you don’t…then fine….but it’s fair play.

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

But I’m a little cynical. There’s way too much money, particularly with the big-name players and clubs, to not give them a “little leeway” on stuff like that.

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hope you can use them...

Can’t believe this WC is still close

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Can we skip Marquis spot on Tuesday....

I lost trust in him and every game is critical now.

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions  

any interesting updates from the postgame report?

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:43 PM MDT reply actions  

no

real generic.

there is no must win when you are ahead. and we are ahead.

there were some questionable strike calls, but thats neither here nor there

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sort of

You can tell Tracy’s pissed about the umps, he’s just not the type of guy to get real overtly fired-up about it.

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too...

…watching postgame, Tracy was subtly worked up and irritated.

by DeepPurple on Sep 26, 2009 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hope he files a complaint though

"Admirably obsessive." - Uni Watch, March 24th, 2009
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by oo_nrb on Sep 26, 2009 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

just Tracy trying to avoid a fine

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

To heck with fines!

He can afford it. Call these guys out. I’m sick and tired of these crapola umps. Selig can kiss my can.

Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.

by rockhead on Sep 26, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's obvious....

considering no Rockies player has been ejected from a game this season, and they don’t want to start now, avoiding any possible suspensions during the final week.

by CM85 on Sep 26, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree...money isn't the issue

its the suspensions…which sucks

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I mean seriously MLB will notice things....

when a player or manager gets kicked out because of bad umpiring….they need to call these fools out, this way we get rid of the bad eggs and have more consistency better called game

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Uball is upset.

Really upset. I feel for the guy.

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

what is he saying?

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just caught him

Talking about the one he left up there for Chesty Larue, how it was his first at bat and they picked the wrong pitch to start and he left it out there.

I was more talking about his demeanor. He was visibly shaken and choked up. I really hope that emotion goes to a good place, and not to a bad one, in his next start.

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

awww...Ubaldo...

needs a group hug

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

what is he saying?

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hell, I would be too

If the umpire handed the other team three runs in my first inning of work.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Renck wussed out on calling out the umps more severely

He wrote in a way that made the Rox seem like whiners…and he didn’t really go into depth about how the strike zone directly negatively impacted the Rockies..

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

maybe so..

but I do think he let them off the hook pretty easily…

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

he gernally makes fair points about the Rox lack of hitting....

…but he glosses over entirely that missed call on Pujols in the first that changed the complexion of the game. That was perhaps the critical moment in the ballgame.

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

i almost completely avoided it

I figured you all knew

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 26, 2009 10:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

It would make a better impact

attached to a brick and thrown through Bud Selig’s office window.

-Joe

"Let me see that thong, th-thong thong thong!" -Sisqo

by jcn7vc on Sep 26, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

-Joe

"Let me see that thong, th-thong thong thong!" -Sisqo

by jcn7vc on Sep 26, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!!! THIS!!

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was trying to be nice and maybe actually get a response of some sort

Even an auto-generated one would be nice.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah cuss words

would make it too easy to dismiss as the typical internet troll.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

This

+20

Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.

by rockhead on Sep 26, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dear Person of Interest

We understand your concern/praise and think that this topic is one of great importance to baseball, and to the safety of the world/universe as a whole. We are doing everything to ensure that these events will/will not happen again in the future and that you are/remain happy with the product that we work hard to deliver to you, in exchange for your hard-earned/trustfund dollars.

Thank you for writing the Commissioner’s office.

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not sure about the Person of Interest..

unless you are meaning it in the FBI use of the term…lol

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

P.S.

We now have your IP, so don’t think we don’t know where you are. Any further correspondence of this nature will be viewed as terrorist activity, and acted upon accordingly.

Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.

by rockhead on Sep 26, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good

I hope MLB hunts me down, I’ll tell them how I really feel.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Are you sure you wouldn’t rather see some dingers?

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

DINGERS DINGERS DINGERS DINGERS

"There are only two important things in life: baseball and breathing. But at least you can survive without breathing for 3 minutes."
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by Hollidayrain on Sep 26, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Dear MLB"

“We didn’t score enough runs, so bad calls decided more of our game than it should.

Sincerely,

Whine whine whine"

I’m frustrated too, but you know that your contact is going to be regarded like this. I mean, I’m with you in spirit, but this just seems like we’re whining.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

In an attempt at the rational...

Umpiring aside, we had major fail with RISP and our pitchers followed the not-so-grand Rockies tradition of 2-out-itis tonight. I have no idea why this “itis” continues to be a problem, but somebody better figure out how to fix it. Our pitching staff has been unable to close out innings for far too long now. I’m sure there’s a stat out there somewhere about this, but I wouldn’t know where to look. Get the third out guys. Quit the nibbling and the over-throwing. Gah.

Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.

by rockhead on Sep 26, 2009 10:05 PM MDT reply actions  

THIS!

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Excellent point

While the Umpiring Epic Fail was a major factor, the RISP-Fail didn’t help.

by Yokel on Sep 26, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have to wonder if the EpicUmpFail..factored into our RISP issues tonight..

If you aren’t getting the calls, and you dont know what the hell to swing at…just wondering

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've seen that happen before

But it was a 4th tier college summer league where the umps were clueless.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Like Giambi's pitch

that was 2 inches off the plate.

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

On a different note....

…can we once forever bury the truism that “you can’t through curveballs at altitude”? Wainright’s hook was plain sick tonight. And he can throw it for a strike -and sometimes not for a strike but get the call anyway:)

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 10:08 PM MDT reply actions  

Wainwright's hook is usually sick

but having the umps on your side helps too.

(Yes! I am still very mad!)

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Sep 26, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

to be honest, Wainwright didn't seem his best tonight...

we smack him around quite a bit and ump help him out as well.

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Even not at his best....

he’s damned good. And his hook is what got him out of trouble tonight. That’s a fabulous pitch.

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I dunno about that

Wainwright was pretty “on” tonight. Even with some of the questionable K’s taken out, he still had 8 or 9 of them and threw 130 pitches. He pitched a damn good game.

"Admirably obsessive." - Uni Watch, March 24th, 2009
NA34 | HK | RMN

by oo_nrb on Sep 26, 2009 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

it's a much better pitch

when all you have to do is get it close and it’s called a strike….

watch this space for a soon to be created clever remark....

by RockyMtnCat on Sep 26, 2009 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

well this game was very well played and felt like an October atmosphere

but damn the umps suck…but oh well hopefully the cardinals waste a lot of energy celebrating tonight and lay an egg on the field tomorrow…and can somebody beat the braves…seriously…i think once they lose once that will be it for them and there beliefs of making it

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

DO NOT CHOKE THIS LEAD PLEASE

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 26, 2009 10:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Can anybody find a gameday of giambi's K?

worked the entire game, never got to see how bad the call was

by Jay Doubleyou on Sep 26, 2009 10:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Hell, gameday is probably siding with the umpires as well as MLB

Not surprised to hear that gameday showed a strike though, they have a knack for trying to make umpires look good

by Jay Doubleyou on Sep 26, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

It was a breaking ball that broke sharply....

and ended up crossing Giambi about three inches below the knee. Awful, awful call.

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looked horrible from left field

is that 3 inches on the front leg or the back?

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

yea if you can see that as a ball from left feild...

then the ump obviously missed it on purpose because this game was fixed.

by Colsportsfan on Sep 27, 2009 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have this crazy technology that I had with me in Coors Field

called an “eye phone” and it has an “app” on it that shows me the strike zone and where pitches fall.

It was a horrible call.

Looked horrible from left field
is that 3 inches on the front leg or the back?

I fail to see where jrockies said the game was fixed.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

how does the i phone app show something different than gameday?

Gameday said in was right down the middle and a couple inches above the bottom of the zone

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 8:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

On another note.....

Can I enjoy one Rockies game in which I don’t have to yell “PROTECT THE #&$&#^ PLATE!” at a Rox hitter as he walks back to the dugout after a backwards K in a key situation?

Congrats, Clint Barmes, you were tonight’s lucky recipient of my wrath.

Can some, anyone please instill a decent two strike approach on this team?

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 10:13 PM MDT reply actions  

No, protect the plate.

Foul pitches off (or at least attempt to) when you’re down in the count. It’s something you see Todd Helton do every game. Spilly is also excellent at.

I get being locked up, but you’ve got to have an approach. Good two strike hitters (Dante Bichette was superb at this) widen their stances, cut down their swings and wait for a pitch they can handle. Too many of our guys treat a two strike count as if they’re up 3-1 and watch strike 3 sail by because it wasn’t the pitch they were guessing.

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

thats what i meant...

you can’t look at a border line strike pitch and “hope” the ump will call it a ball. 50% of time they will ring you up.

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Their bts aren't long enough

The plate was a yard wide tonight when the Rockies were up in key situations.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

*bats

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Barmes took a legit strike 3

he was guessing and got caught. With two strikes, guess less, protect more. Heck, my Little league coach told me that.

by BroJB on Sep 26, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, as far as sports go, this day totally sucked

My college football team, UNC (the Bears, not the Tar Heels), completely embarrassed themselves today and then this game happened.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Hey I'm a Bear too!

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cool!

Our football team sucks!

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

LOL!! They beat the USD Toreros!!

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

And the USD Toreros should be embarrassed.

We’ve won 4 games since I got to campus. I’m a senior.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm an alumni...I won't say how far back...

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cool.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

CSU lost too...

they tried but turnovers and the defense couldn’t hold up has cost them

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

CU didn't lose!

Didn’t play, but didn’t lose!

by Muzia on Sep 26, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Better than UNC

105 yards of total offense today. Against a team that isn’t all that good.

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

My UNC Tarheels

Didn’t fare any better. But then, the football team rarely does. Bring on the hoops, I say!

Fearing a collapse; hoping to be proven wrong.

by rockhead on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Watching an Ozzie Guillen rant from tonight

What would he have said if he was in Tracy’s place tonight?

Adrian Peterson is better than your running back.

by free7694 on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM MDT reply actions  

He would have gotten so fired up

they would have had to send the reporter to the moon to follow him.

-Joe

"Let me see that thong, th-thong thong thong!" -Sisqo

by jcn7vc on Sep 26, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

he would have been tossed...

suspended for like 2 weeks..

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

he would have had fist fight with the ump...

cussing and swearing in Spanish telling him what a loser he is

by Colsportsfan on Sep 26, 2009 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would so LOVE to see that happen...

Dear Rockies - Do not make me live in a world where John Kruk is right....

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego con RISP
Brad Hawpe- It's not funny anymore..seriously.
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, waiting to swoop into the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Sep 26, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Guillen would've succeeded where Tracy FAILED.

tracy’s done virtually everything right in his tenure here, but what happened—or didn’t happen—tonight was pretty disappointing. there were enough questionable (aka BAD) calls leading up to the horrible giambi-at-the-shins call, that tracy NEEDED to be out there, in the ump’s face. i don’t care if tracy was okay with the call, i don’t care if it’s not in line with tracy’s mild personality, i don’t care if tracy was drunk or on sleeping pills— I DON’T CARE. dude NEEDED to be out there up in the ump’s grill, like a real major league manager, TRYING to get kicked out of the game to show his team he’ll take a hit for them. this is the manager’s DUTY, for pete’s freaking sake!

sorry, it just is. you let me down, jim tracy. don’t do it again.

by oxmouth on Sep 26, 2009 11:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

at the game. section 131 11 rows behind the plate.

that was the absolute worst home plate umpire I have ever seen, and I’ve been sitting that close watching Angel Hernandez before.

I was pissed off, people around me were pissed off, the Rockies were apparently pissed off.

I was waiting for Tracy to blow up, why did he not?

Disappointed with you tonight, Jim. and still pissed off.

"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Ubaldo is throwing fastballs by you."

by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2009 11:17 PM MDT reply actions  

agreed so much

yes, yes, I get it. We’re coming to the end of the season and the Magic Number is sitting at 6, the Braves play against the Natinals forever, the sky is falling etc etc. I’m right there with the rest of the fans/people on the bandwagon. But I want to see some real passion in this team! and not just from the players jumping up and down when we get a walkoff. I want to see Tracy out there in the umpires face, kicking some dirt around and saying things his mother would be ashamed of. I just want to see some rage! This team isn’t going to get anywhere being Mr.Nice Guys. Today in the dugout after that bad call during Giambi’s at bat was a nice start, but we need to take it a step further. Normally I wouldn’t be promoting this, but the amount of bad calls are starting to cross the line. Also, I’m very tired, angry at my brother, am nursing my hand that I badly burnt accidentaly touching the froth-thingy on my moms espresso machine, and just in general feel like the sky is falling and it’s 2012 and the world is about to end, and probably am in no condition to be posting on here. but it’s just so upsetting to see this happen. I wonder how many bad calls it takes in a series to become more than just a coincidence. I guess all I can hope is that we see some more fairness tomorrow. That, and a Braves loss.

/rant

by Rockie4Ever on Sep 26, 2009 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

I should never know the name of the ump, but I know 3

Angel Campos
Angel Hernandez
and now Dan Iasogna

This game really really burns me. I still think something fishy is going on with the umpiring, and that really really !#%$# me off! That kind a crap will ruin my favorite sport for me.

by Redhawk on Sep 26, 2009 11:30 PM MDT reply actions  

My first post on these boards consists of the following statements:

1) I’m a Rockies fan.
2) There is no umpiring fix in for or against the Rockies or any other team.
3) Tracy making a stink/getting ejected would have no positive effect on the outcome of the game.

by Rutabaga on Sep 26, 2009 11:38 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

awesome thanks we'll all stop venting frustration now

seriously, welcome, but just let everyone work it off.

It’s not so much that we legitimately think about a big umpire’s meeting (I’m picturing the Janitor’s closet in Scrubs) with them all saying “hm how can we dick the Rockies over tonight?”

It’s more that we “showed them up” and so while they aren’t consciously thinking “screw Rockies” it might be something in the back of their minds, more a feeling than a conscious thought.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

See, I agree with you about a potential subconscious, back of the mind thing.

But there are plenty of people in here who think it’s more than that.

by holly96 on Sep 27, 2009 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Of whom I am definitely not one, I should clarify.

I just don’t buy the conspiracy theories, so all the stuff that goes beyond a little venting just makes me roll my eyes.

by holly96 on Sep 27, 2009 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I blame the NBA

Now that one official in one top-tier sport has been busted for being on the take, now they’re all in suspicion. I mean, they were before as well, but now we have “something” to go on.

I don’t want an automated B/S system, I want to see consistency in umpiring.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Absolutely agreed

The league would not want such a scandal, so it wouldn’t ‘come from higher up.’ The NBA thing wasn’t a vendetta, nor a league desire for ratings, but a guy’s personal gambling problem.

by Rutabaga on Sep 27, 2009 12:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Heh.

I could be down with blaming Tim Donaghey (or however that’s spelled). But really I think it’s just fan mentality. Sports fans seem far more prone to conspiracy theorizing than any other segment of the population.

So yeah, one guy gets busted, and suddenly everyone’s all, “I knew it! They’re all corrupt!”

by holly96 on Sep 27, 2009 12:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

hence the "something"

I don’t really believe it, it just makes me feel somewhat vindicated for about 30 seconds to think “buncha crooked rats, they’re all in on this”

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

The NBA's rap

is more than just one guy on the take. The reputation of the league fixing/rigging/manipulating games through the officiating goes back to the 1970s. Getting playoff series to go extra games, for the drama and extra TV ratings and ticket sales. Getting teams with higher TV ratings to advance, etc. Fixing drafts to get either marquis players to big markets (Ewing to NY) or getting a great player to a team that is about to go under (LeBron to Cleveland)

The NBA was known for being only slightly more a real sporting event than the WWE.

And sadly that’s what the last 2 nights have looked like to me for the Rockies.

by Redhawk on Sep 27, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

The reputation has been there for awhile, true.

But nothing has ever been proven, and even in the NBA I don’t buy the conspiracy theories. And I don’t think most fans truly do, either. It’s just that more do and people are far more vocal about it.

by holly96 on Sep 27, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm frustrated, too

but unless the umps are unlike 99% of every other responsible working person I know, their overriding concern is to satisfy their employer, who evaluates their performance in every game, down to each call, and pitch.

by Rutabaga on Sep 27, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hm

so you’re saying Bud Selig doesn’t want the Rockies to win?

I agree that the bad calls are just part of the game. What raises my eyebrow is that it’s not like they’re missing a 1-1 pitch in the 4th, they’re ringing up our stud PH in the 8th and calling our speedy CF out when he was safe by a step in the …8th as well, I think.

Point is, these seem to be really high leverage situations that are being botched. Coincidence? Probably. Am I wearing a tinfoil hat? Most assuredly.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just got back from the game

It was definitely a playoff atmosphere as it was sold out, and everyone was given the rally towels when entering and used them quite a bit.

I was sitting in an area that had video screens up where they had monitors up, showing the FSN video feed. For most of the game everyone was pretty ticked off at the bad ump calls. What was interesting is just as the TV feed was about to show the Giambi pitch replay, suddenly all of the screens went blank. Someone definitely didn’t want the fans to see that replay for some reason.

On the positive side, the offense seems to be doing better, especially Barmes & Hawpe tonight. Even being down 3 runs, it never felt they were out of it. One monster hit in the 8th or 9th could’ve tied it.

I was surprised they left Wainright in so long, but they obviously wanted the clinch. Just like game 161 in 2007, I got to be at the stadium to watch the opposing team celebrate. Tonight wasn’t nearly as bad as 2007 thought, since it felt that the season was over (falling 2 out with 2 to play).

I’m predicting a Rockies win tomorrow, and a Braves loss to reset the standings to where they were.

by ddavis539 on Sep 26, 2009 11:40 PM MDT reply actions  

actually, not quite sold out

but yeah……I know what you mean. We’ve gotta conjur up some Matsui magic and slap Lohse around tomorrow.

Oh, and if there are bad calls tomorrow, I think this umpiring crew is gonna have a hard time getting out of town with their heads screwed on.

"There are only two important things in life: baseball and breathing. But at least you can survive without breathing for 3 minutes."
www.soundclick.com/hollidayrain

by Hollidayrain on Sep 27, 2009 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Man

I’m glad I had to miss this one, sounded like a frustrating nightmare. That said, the umps are going to do what they do and their ain’t a damn thing to be done about it save win games despite them. Gotta get one tomorrow, Braves ain’t losing.

by Teekalong on Sep 26, 2009 11:51 PM MDT reply actions  

All right Rockies and Livan Hernandez

WIN TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!

(my other car is a cdr)

by ejskater on Sep 27, 2009 12:01 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Was at the game

Other than the bad strike calls (not calls?) the teams played well. The Cards had a few really big hits to give them the win. The Rockies were unable to EXECUTE with RISP and it was quite frustrating. Good defense.

I was two rows behind the spot that Hawpe hit his bomb and Ludwick hit his in the exact same spot. I almost had both balls but they died before they got to me and I didn’t want to try and jump over the 5 people sitting in front of me.

Listening to everyone venting makes me feel better. Thanks.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 12:21 AM MDT reply actions  

On a side not

Congratulations to the Cardinals!! You clinched now let us win so we can join you in October.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 12:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Didn't know this

I’m disappointed because this was the last game I can go to unless we make it to the playoffs, since classes run my life during the week.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 12:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Something else that bugged me:

I was sitting with a bunch of Cardinals fans and I was having a great conversation with the guy to my right. In the 6th inning some guy comes into the row and says that he has seat 12 (I’m in 13). The people I was talking to were in the wrong row (4 when they should have been in 3). This guy made them move so he could sit there with his binoculars and watch the game. He then left after the 6th inning and I did not see him until the bottom of the 9th. This was the dumbest thing because it was harder to hold a conversation with the guy in front of you than the same buy beside you. I absolutely hate people like this.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 12:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just to get everyone pissed off some more:

Adam Wainwright’s night:

Ubaldo Jimenez’ night:

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:23 AM MDT reply actions  

But it was inconsistent for both pitchers,

and Ubaldo had a ton of gifts below the strike zone

Never give up, never surrender.

by Justus on Sep 27, 2009 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

How many of those

Were swinging strikes at pitches that broke out of the zone? I know Uball got a ton like that.

by Yokel on Sep 27, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

that's why I didn't say much else about it

green dots in the zone I get more pissed at than red dots outside, simply because I can’t distinguish a poor call, a foul ball, or a swinging strike.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

A combination of factors why we lost:

1. Two doubles with no outs in a tie game and not moving the runners over in either case is just bad baseball; Barmes in the 4th followed by Jimenez fail (or perhaps Tracy fail) and Hawpe in the 6th followed by Barmes fail (or perhaps Tracy fail).
2. RISP problems,
3. Ump problems (I followed the game on the internet so I have to take everyone’s word for it).
4. Ubaldo’s continued inability to control his emotions / nerves early in a game

May the Rockies bring me to paydirt!

by Rocks rock on Sep 27, 2009 12:30 AM MDT reply actions  

Seth Smith

would have been good in that situation, or so I thought. Maybe Spilly or McCoy or…

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 12:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

exactly, we were all up in arms a few days ago

over Tracy having Hammel hit and then pull him two batters (one out) later and rightly so. while not as bad, it wasn’t a whole lot different. ubaldo had already thrown 95 pitches, so realistically he probably only has one inning more and it was the perfect time to bring in a reliever as the reliever would get the bottom of the order. this isn’t hindsight on my part, i was calling for a barmes bunt followed by a seth smith pinch-hit for the sac fly. i disagree with the notion of letting barmes hit because he had already had two doubles. i mean it is barmes and it is wainwright, the percentages would dictate a bunt in that spot.

May the Rockies bring me to paydirt!

by Rocks rock on Sep 27, 2009 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

But have you seen our bullpen lately?

Seriously, I don’t fault Tracy for really wanting to get just one more inning out of U-Ball, given how bad most of our 7th inning options have been over the last week or so.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2009 2:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was concerned about this game....

You have to think that facing two Cy Young candidates in a row, you’re not going to come through completely unscathed. I’d like to sue the schedule makers, actually; while we get the NL Central champions, the Braves get the biggest throwaway team for seven games.

We just win today, and we’ll be good. We don’t win and I’ll be concerned.

Carlos Gonzalez is a sexy man

by Squeaky on Sep 27, 2009 7:41 AM MDT reply actions  

This schedule was made like 2-3 years ago

Had the Nats been .475 team, I don’t think we’d be this up in arms about it. Esp. if the Cards and Brewers were tanking and like the Cubs or Astros were ruling the Central.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

They start making

the schedule a year in advance. They send preliminary schedules to the teams for review and then they go back and make changes. The final schedule is the one the fans see (which came out a short period of time ago for 2010)

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I too was at the game...

Section 117, Row 11. I could see the pitches as they broke below the Rockies’ knees… and of course, the one to Giambi was well below his knees. I was upset after that.

Overall, like someone else mentioned, the Rockies were playing well (all minus the RISP aspect). Defense was good and loved the atmosphere. Need a win in the worst way, boys!

I got nothing.

by nkrause on Sep 27, 2009 8:10 AM MDT reply actions  

I hope that we get all of our bitching and moaning out in one thread...

I’m tired of reading it. Let’s win ballgames.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Sep 27, 2009 9:10 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

THIS

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

DO NOT CHOKE THIS LEAD PLEASE

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 27, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Then don't read it

you don’t think fans have a right to express their frustration? I get damn tired of people, telling me I’m suppose to be all f’n sunshine when the team I like is taking tough loss after tough loss.

by Redhawk on Sep 27, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is the first time you've heard it from me.

It’s a gradual build-up that has developed over the last week mixing paranoia and conspiracy theorists into an unholy mass of whining.

I’m not saying don’t express your frustrations. I’m saying express your frustrations in a meaningful way (AKA don’t direct it at the umpires or OMG TEH BRAVEZ WILL NEVER LOSE WE’RE DOOMED). Quite frankly, it annoys the hell out of me. Let’s talk about the Rockies (yes, 0-13 RISP IS bad) instead.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Sep 27, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

0-13 is going to pretty much guarantee a loss, no matter how you look at it.

OTOH, there have been some shitty, shitty calls the last two nights. And that’s a morale killer. It’s not so much “we could have won last night had the calls gone our way” as “well the Rockies could have had an opportunity there had the ump not blown that call.”

Your point is well taken. The team needs to play better baseball and capitalize on the opportunities they do have. The umpire crew are becoming the scapegoats.

Never give up, never surrender.

by Justus on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think he means outside of this thread

don’t be “OMG THE CONSPIRACY CONTINUES” in today’s game thread.

EXECUTE

by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

meaning that if there's a borderline strike/ball, shut up

but if it’s another Dex-is-on-the-bag-and-the-ball-is-2-feet-out-of-pujols’-glove, then that’s its own bag

EXECUTE

by Andrew Martin on Sep 27, 2009 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I really have an issue

with anyone telling anyone to “shut up”

by Redhawk on Sep 27, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

My Junior High

social studies teacher did too. If he heard it in class the person had to do 20 pushups. Kind of amusing considering he was the football coach and he caught some athletes saying it; he then made them do their pushups correctly or they had to do more.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Couldn't have said it better

rec’d

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 27, 2009 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

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