Rockies pop-up a treat for Mets on getaway day, lose 8-3
Starting pitching was bad. Relief pitching was bad. Hitting was mostly bad. Oddly enough, with that combination of forces at work, the Rockies lost to Pat Misch and the Mets anyway. Yeah, surprising to me too, you would think these things had an inverse relationship or something and the worse your team played, the more likely they were to win a game, but apparently it doesn't work that way in real life.
Alright, so where does this latest loss leave the Rockies with 28 games left to play? If you're an optimisitic fan of Atlanta or San Francisco or a pessimistic fan of the Rockies, you're likely seeing it as part of an eight game pattern in which Colorado has gone 2-6 and seen its once daunting wild card lead evaporate. Extrapolating that out to the end of the season means that the Rockies finish the season at only 81-81 and well back of whoever ultimately wins the playoff spot. If you're a Rox optimist and/or a pessimist for those other two teams, the picture you take away is that the team lost a winnable game today but won the series, and continuing to win series the rest of the way should be enough to get them into the postseason.
I guess as an optimist you would also take away Chris Iannetta's two late hits, one a solo home run, one a triple, as a positive sign that his slump may at last be coming to an end. The pessimists will look at Jim Tracy's micromanagement and inexplicable reliance on Clint Barmes in the second spot of the lineup as troubled waters we'll have to get around still. Barmes vindicated Tracy somewhat by hitting his twelfth home run of the second half of the season. Barmes is 28 for 162 (.173) since the All-Star break, with half his hits going for extra bases. CDI is in the same club, 20 for 96 (.208), ten extra base hits. That whole Jason Marquis autumn slump demon seems to be rearing its head as well. Finally, of course, as the title is meant to indicate, the Rockies recent habit of getting underneath or uppercutting just about any pitch thrown to them is getting annoying really fast.
Ultimately, however, it's just one game whether you take a pessimistic or optimistic slant, and attempting to draw bigger meaning out of it will be largely futile, let's just hope the Phillies can come up with some offense tonight to take the sting out a little bit. And if that fails to materialize, well, winning against the Diamondbacks always cures a lot of ills.
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All in all I'm still not worried
possibly irrationally, but still
if you're reading this, it means my undying support for your team will result in its failure.
Jason Marquis 2nd Half Collapse Watch
1st half: 11-6, 3.65 ERA, 6.85 IP/GS, 4.2 K/9, 2.9 BB/9, 0.66 HR/9
2nd half: 3-4, 3.97 ERA, 6.56 IP/GS, 4.6 K/9, 2.6 BB/9, 0.46 HR/9
Though note that some reported his velocity was down last start and this one. The fangraphs pitch f/x chart does show his fb velocity down for his last start (which was an excellent outing in the 14-inning game, if you recall), but it’s not the first time this season it’s dipped down a little.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
WHAT THE HECK...is this horrible
watch stuff…..I’m aghast
:)
PS…and a little hurt that you left my special designation out :P
I brought it back since Rox Girl mentioned it
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I look at Dan Haren's second half performance compared to his first,
And I think that the Rockies have it pretty good as far as collapses go. I hope Haren continues that downward trend tomorrow.
I wanted a sweep.
But we didn’t, and so here we are. Popping up and making bad pitchers look awesome. One of these days someone needs to realize that we don’t really have to play to the competition…being better is okay.
Onwards and upwards, I guess.
Carlos Gonzalez is a sexy man
They won the first two games fairly easily
I think this might be more a case where they need to keep their foot on the other team’s neck, to use Matt Kemp’s image.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I was at the game last night...
and I can tell you the Rockies did not win “fairly easily.” It was tied with one out in the bottom of the eighth. An exciting win thanks to Ubaldo and Giambi, but not easy by any stretch. It was tense all night as the local nine could not solve Redding.
gee whiz
this site is starting to tire me out. You really thought they’d lose that game, huh?
How about this. Let me clarify. You score 3 in the 8th in a game started by your amazingly consistent ace, and win another game 8-3, and take the series 2-1, Is it fair to say you didn’t play down to your competition?
Or is the team supposed to sweep every bad team?
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
the trouble with being a LOSING TEAM for so long
is that when you start winning, everyone expects you to play .900 ball
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 3, 2009 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions
awful game
put it behind us…beat the Dbacks…go Phillies tonight
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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you know, i
I’d almost feel sorry for the Dbacks…cause methinks, the boyz are gonna be MAD and looking to kick somebody’s rear
Werth bomb
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions
This one unreasonably hurt...
…because the matchup was SOOOO winnable.
But it was just one game, and weren’t we just saying we’d be good with a 7-3 homestand (even if I think 8-2 is actually possible).
It’s not a big deal. It’s not nothing, but it’s not huge.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
yep i had been preaching
just winnings every series…lose one game every series and it is fine
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions
but yes very winnable
pitching matchup so that’s why this one hurt
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, there is some happy news today
Huston Street MRI is clean and Dex goes to rehab……
http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2009/09/03/street-mri-clean-fowler-on-tap-for-rehab-assignment-saturday/
A bug must be loose in the SBN system with all these double posts tonight...
Somebody needs to squash it.
I noticed that my post TRIED to post twice
but I caught it before it did. Very weird.
Carlos Gonzalez is a sexy man
I got impatient with mine
It was stuck on "posting’ and I thought the process was hanging, so I hit preview then posted again. Then both showed up.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I find when you navigate to another site
and then hit “back” to return to the thread, it won’t let you post, and you have to refresh.
This is why I try and get all links to “open in a new window” so that you don’t have to refresh and miss all the unread comments
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 3, 2009 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay for a little levity...
this is pretty funny…from Yahoo Sports Power Rankings
Colorado 8. Colorado Rockies (74-59; Previous: 6) – David Wright gets to on-deck circle, annoyed when he picks up batting helmet to find Clint Barmes’ entire family in there.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-powerrankings090309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Until today
The Mets were winless in every one of Misch’s starts……..0-12 Not only is that frustrating as hell, it’s reminiscient of the Rockies overall play and bad breaks of late. Injuries continue to pile up(the most recent is probably the most costly) and the team, for the first time under Tracy, seems to be missing out on great opportunities. Before this past week, the team would seemingly capitalize on every opportunity when they had a distinct advantage.
If the Giants beat Philly tonight, it will be a huge boost for them. Even though they tied up the WC race on Sunday, the Rockies looked still looked to be in great shape with three at home against the Mets while the Giants were stuck facing the Phillies on the road. I actually thought that there was a decent chance that we could have another three game cushion by tonight. If the Giants leave Philly still tied in the WC, it’s a huge win for them and another blown opportunity for the Rox.
We best be damn careful with the D-Backs. They’re on fire lately and always seem to give us fits(they took 2 out of 3 at Coors over the Fourth of July weekend. Plus, we’re sending out the bottom of our rotation. Coors Hammel and the unknown Contreras brings is enough to make anyone nervous. Also Cincy is playing much better and would surely love some revenge for being sweot two straight years at GAB. The Rockies must find a way to take 2 from Arizona and 3 from Cincy or they might find themselves in a very precarious position as they head to San Diego and Frisco. We need a 3 game, at least, a 3 game buffer heading into that Giants series.
Why at least a three game buffer?
Because we’re going to get swept again? Honestly if we do get swept in SF again, I don’t know if the Rockies deserve the WC, and at that point you’ve got to say that the better team won, but even then it’s not a sure thing that the Giants win out the last two weeks. They follow that series with a trip to face the Dodgers and D-backs, and Arizona will give them as much fits as they do us, probably more since they’ll get the Giants at Chase. They then go home for two series against the Cubs and D-backs, and while the Cubs have fared poorly out west thus far, they remain a pretty dangerous foe on paper and then have to close out with a series in San Diego, where they haven’t won yet this season. It’s a bit easier than the Rockies schedule that includes two playoff teams in the last three series, but not enough to give them a lock on a playoff spot if they are even with us heading into those last ten games.
I agree with you that the Rockies have to be careful and not take any team for granted, but at the same time they can’t let the pressure get to them like it seems to be getting to a lot of fans. just go out and play like they’re capable of and winning series should come. If it doesn’t, I guess we’ll have to chalk it up to experience gained and try again next year.
Thanks for
your usual calming influence Rox Girl. That’s why I like this forum so well, it’s therapeutic for high strung guys like myself. I’m not a sky is falling type, but losses like today definetely ruin the rest of my night and start the nerves jumping.
I just know how huge it would be for Colorado baseball to make it to the postseason this year. Not only would it complete one of MLB biggest comebacks, but it would also help dispell the “fluke” tag from ‘07. Plus, with the sorry state of the rest of Colorado’s professional sports, it sure would be fantastic for the whole community in Denver and the rest of the Rocky Mountain region. 2009 is different than just “any ol’ year”. Let’s hope it all works out in the end.
? pat misch had only made one career start before today for new York
You mean his career spanning san Fran and NY?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 3, 2009 6:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
According to Renk
Misch was 0-12 entering today’s game(Giants and Mets). That tied the longest mark of futility EVER by a starter to begin his career. A loss today and he would have held the record all by his lonesome. Alas, he was saved by the Rockies and their schitzophrenic bats.
His teams were winless in his starts
He was actually 0-8. His previous start he only gave up 1 run in 7 innings, but the team lost when the bullpen gave up 4 runs in the 8th.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Today must have been opposite day
The only offense comes from 3 solo home runs from guys who have been slumping. Most of the other players had Barmes slump-like ABs, swinging early and popping up.
At least the phillies and Marlins did us a favor by keeping the Giants/Braves at bay, but they can’t keep hoping for external results to stay in it.
I’m a little concerned with a series against the DBacks, since it seems that they’re playing the Dodgers pretty well and will at least split that series.
Where has
the Phillies offense gone. As per the Giants m.o., their “lights out” pitching allows them to hang around long enough for their horrific offense to scratch out an ugly run or two. The Rockies are the better team but that Giants rotation is simply dominant. It would be truely disappointing if that team makes it in over the Rox.
Velez, leadoff double in the 6th. Here we go again. Thanks a lot Philly.
Lidge apparently doesn't really care about baserunners,
That was all on the pitcher despite a bad throw from Ruiz.
No I think you were right originally, actually.
Point being, Chase Utley got somebody out, resulting in Giants loss :)
In your opinion, Rox Girl,
do the Braves or Marlins pose a bigger threat in the wildcard, given their remaining schedules, etc.?
Marlins have the tougher schedule by far.
Atlanta’s got a couple of rough series and a few roadies, but the Marlins will be almost entirely on the road from here on out and when they are at home it will be mostly against the Braves or Phillies. The Braves get a lot of games with Washington down the stretch, including a four game homestand at the end of the season. They better be out of it by then.
well if Fish win, that makes them both 4 back ?
but I agree I don’t mind the Marlins…not a Braves fan myself
yep
and a split of a 4 game series…which is beautiful…beat up on each other
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions
woo go fish
good job phils…scored 3 runs in 3 games and won 2 of 3 lmao
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4-3 fish
Ross rbi double
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me too
Braves more feared than the Fish as well
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions
another one
5-3
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions
bullpen implosion lol
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions
7-3
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions
lol yep
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions
lol yea
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:33 PM MDT up reply actions
poor Hanson lol
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions
haha
another half hour…i am watching some college football then though…nice game to start out college season Oregon and Boise st
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I still say Boise St and Oklahoma
is THE BEST FOOTBALL GAME I’ve ever seen…and I watch a bit of football :)
that was defintely
one of the best games i have ever seen as well…loved it
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Looking ahead, the D-bags have been playing a lot of young guys
I watched a couple of their games v. the Astros last weekend (I live in Texas) & I didn’t know half the players. I wonder if that was just because those games didn’t matter & they’ll play their regulars against the Rox? Maybe it won’t make much difference since their regulars have been pretty bad this year.
One thing that should work in the Rockies’ favor: the D-bags don’t have much pitching right now. Qualls is out as closer, so that should make up for Street’s unavailability.
But after being mostly shutdown by Tim Redding & Misch, it doesn’t seem to matter who’s pitching against the Rox right now. Especially in the early innnings. This trend of doing nothing for 5 innings & then trying to play catch up needs to stop.
No records in the last 10 years should count.
Dbacks, please
respect your opponents
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 3, 2009 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions
The Rockies have always seemed to struggle against
all of their NL West counterparts, sans the Padres. To think we still lead the WC with a losing record against every division opponent except San Diego(and even thats not etched in stone yet). Granted we beat the D-Bags in the most important series in Rockies history, but generally they’ve had our number over the years, followed by the Giants, and then of course the Dodgers.
The Rockies HAVE to start winning divisional games or they don’t deserve the playoffs. Hell, if we could throw out our divisional record we’d have the best record in baseball. If we could just throw out our Dodgers games we’d have the best record in the NL.
if we could just throw out our losses, we'd be a lock!
I agree with you
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 3, 2009 11:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Eh, that's tricky to quantify
Ever since they changed the schedule so that you play even more games against your divisional opponents. For perspective, the Angels also have a losing record against their division.
You are correct in that we need to take care of our divisional opponents, but it could just be that we seem to struggle against them more because we see them for a third of the season.
Gladly sharing a name with Dexter Fowler!
by ShadowPenguin on Sep 4, 2009 12:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Just thought someone might be interested, hint Silverblood
but I went to the Sky Sox game tonight and Esmil Rogers, Greg Reynolds, and Adam Eaton were all sitting together and charting pitches. I went and down and got all of their autographs. They were all very nice, and especially Reynolds. I asked him how he felt and he said good. He said he will be able to get his work in for the offseason and should be ready to go next year. He said it was a weird back issue and it just needed rest. He said no one ever figured out exactly what it was, but it is feeling a lot better now. Anyways, it was pretty cool, the guys were all great guys.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
I need to go to a SkySox game
and a Ghosts game
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