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Sunday Rockpile: On the sustaining of the Rockies success

Over the past few weeks I've seen in discussions some worry about how the Rockies might be in for another 2008 type of letdown due to their relative inaction in the offseason. Fans see the pattern of the team having success one year and then not going out to the free agent or trade market to try and supplement or build on it. The two successful seasons sandwiching 2008 also happened to follow major trades by the organization (Jason Jennings before 2007, Matt Holliday before 2009) which probably adds to the feeling by fans that if the Rockies want to be competitive in 2010, they ought to do something.., anything.., to shake things up.

I wanted to actually take a closer look at this today, and in doing so, I noticed I had some misconceptions myself about what caused the team's collapse in 2008 (hint: Troy Tulowitzki, Jeff Francis, Todd Helton and Matt Holliday had much more to do with it than Willy Taveras, Jayson Nix, Kip Wells or Greg Reynolds). So to start, I'll put the teams actual wins from each of the last three seasons, along with the WAR provided by both the position players and pitchers, and then after the jump break down just what went wrong in 2008 and try to find out if we're in danger of it happening again.

2007: Actual wins: 90

 

Batters/Fielders: 23.5

Pitchers: 18.6

 

2008: Actual wins: 74

 

Batters/Fielders: 13.0

Pitchers: 19.4

 

2009: Actual wins: 92

 

Batters/Fielders 18.7

Pitchers: 23.6

 

First of all, note how in 2007 the Rockies pitching complemented the superior hitting unit on the way to the playoffs and in 2009 it was almost the exact reverse of that. The Rockies have added five wins of value in their pitching over the last two seasons, which has taken them from a decent middle of the pack squad to one of the League's top pitching units.

The other thing I want to point out is the apparent disparity in replacement level in 2008 vs. that of 2007 and 2009. You take off the 42 added wins from the roughly 90 win talent team that the Rockies had each of those two playoff seasons and you get a replacement level of 48. You take the 32 wins above replacement off the Rockies 2008 and your replacement level seemingly dips to 42. What that's actually probably showing is that the 2008 Rockies talent that season was closer to that of an 80 win team. Still not good enough to beat the Dodgers that year, but we should have been close to the division lead than we were. 

Alright, what I really want to look at, however, is that 10 win dip in production from 2007 to 2008 and the bounce back in 2009, because there seems to be a general fear among fans that the inaction of the Rockies front office in 2009-2010 winter thus far indicates we're watching a repeat of the 2007-2008 off season. 

Star-divide

I'm going to list the 2007 production in wins from guys who wouldn't be providing close to the same level in 2008, then I'm going to list who the team expected to make up that 

2007 Key Pitching WAR contributors lost:

 

 

2008 Expected Pitching replacements:

 

  • Jeff Francis 1.6 WAR
  • Taylor Buchholz 1.2 
  • Manny Corpas 0.9
  • Luis Vizcaino -0.1 
  • Mark Redman 0.2
  • Kip Wells 0.0
  • Greg Reynolds -0.5

 

2008 Actual Pitching replacements:

 

 

Early in 2008, the pitching seemed to be well on its way to a trainwreck with injuries and several expected go-to pitchers falling flat. Dan O'Dowd made two key moves with AL Central teams in picking JDLR and Grilli, who both wound up pitching better than most of us expected and along with better than usual season from Aaron Cook and nice development from Ubaldo Jimenez and rebound for Brian Fuentes, the gains we made in the 2007 season were saved on the pitching front. This was not to be the case with the position players:

2007 Key hitting/fielding WAR contributors lost:

 

  • Troy Tulowitzki 5.4
  • Todd Helton 5.0
  • Brad Hawpe 1.3
  • Matt Holliday 8.0
  • Garrett Atkins 2.4
  • Kaz Matsui 2.9
  • Willy Taveras 1.0

 

2008 expected replacements:

 

 

2008 Actual replacements

 

 

Iannetta's big year couldn't come close to making up for losses of one WAR or more from every other starting position player. When I look at it this way, it makes it really difficult for me to figure out what O'Dowd could have done to save us in 2008. There's just too much bleeding at too many different positions. Replacing the entire team (keep in mind this is the team that just won a pennant) was not an option and would have likely gotten him in much more hot water with fans than he already was.

So what can we take from that catastrophe and apply to the Rockies situation right now? Okay, let's start by looking at the 2009 Value Chart for some players coming off spiky or unusually productive seasons such as Helton, Holliday, Tulo and Kaz Matsui in 2007.

Tulo is the only Rockies player to put up more than 5 WAR in 2009, the question would be is he in line for a total crash in value? Given that much of that crash was injury related, I'm not sure this is something we can actually predict, if it happens again, we're kind of screwed again. Helton's averaged about 3.5 wins of value over the last five seasons, and he'd have to drop to replacement level to match the loss in value we suffered by his drop in production in 2008.

Carlos Gonzalez and Seth Smith are both excellent candidates to fall back to earth in 2010, so our left field might actually see a more significant drop than some people seem to be expecting. That said, we should get more production from center field, third base and possibly catcher if Iannetta can regain some of his 2008 magic. There's even at least a decent possibility we get more, not less, production from Tulo despite him coming off his best season career to date at the plate, as he could regain some lost defensive value.

At any rate, the main point is that the loss of at least a win at every position scenario that played out in 2008 seems highly unlikely right now, and what losses in value are foreseeable are relatively small and made up by gains at other positions. Keep in mind throughout that we can't foresee injuries such as the broken leg that Tulowitzki suffered in 2008, and a repeat disaster like that for out shortstop will almost certainly cost the team any chance at making another playoff run. I have to think, however, that odds are in our favor that another injury like that doesn't occur.

Of course, unlike 2007, in 2009 the Rockies pitching gave the team the most value. Perhaps this would be a better place to look for a repeat catastrophe.

2009 Key WAR contributors lost:

 

 

Alright, this is where it gets kind of tricky. We know for sure that the Rockies will lose Marquis, we can't tell for sure what other problems await. Until we know better what to expect from Jhoulys Chacin, Christian Friedrich and other mostly untested starters in 2010, there's a pretty big risk in the event of an injury to one of the projected five starters. This is why the team continues to look for pitchers like Tim Redding (yeah, not the ideal example, but he's the one we're most connected to) to raise the floor of that potential dropoff.

Ubaldo Jimenez, Jason Hammel and Jorge De La Rosa are all downward regression candidates to varying degrees, but all also have decent arguments why they'd be able to maintain their 2009 level of production. I can probably get into those in the comments as I'm very late with this post as is, but the upshoot should be to expect a fall back for them but don't be surprised if it doesn't happen. If you're looking for a Verducci type effect due to a spike in the amount of innings, JDLR probably should be given at least a yellow flag, if not a red after a bump to 185 after 130 in 2008.

Conversely, the other two parts of the 2010 Rockies rotation might make up the Marquis gap and then some. If you take an average level of production from the pair, 2.9 wins for Jeff Francis, 3.3 wins for Aaron Cook (their MLB averages over the last four seasons they pitched) you could make up the difference between Cook and Marquis 2009, with half a win left over to help cover the other anticipated regressions.

At any rate, to lose 10 wins like the Rockies did with their 2008 position players, we'd need to see a combination of:

 

  • A major regression and/or injury to Ubaldo Jimenez.

 

and at least two more of the following:

 

  • Aaron Cook with another poor season by his standards.
  • Both JDLR and Jason Hammel regressing to levels of production prior to their acquisitions by the Rockies.
  • A less than average return by Jeff Francis.
  • Chaos in the bullpen

 

Jimenez probably has to join Tulowitzki in the category of players we simply can't afford to lose and maintain a truly competitive team. Any other part and I think the Rockies could still be competitive with the right breaks, but those two seem to have made themselves integral to the franchise's success.

Okay, I'm just going to post this and continue the discussion in the comments, but the short story is that a 10 win, 2008 type of collapse in the lineup seems very unlikely right now. A similar collapse with the rotation/pitching is at least a little bit of a better possibility, but also unlikely. 

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by Russ Oates on Jan 10, 2010 11:30 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

So we should all hope that Hari Seldon is a Rockies fan?

or at least that psychohistory is kind to the Rox? Would an unexpected breakout season by a player on a division rival be like the rise of “The Mule”?

3 out of 4 sounds so much better than 2 out of 3...

by realmenwearpurple on Jan 10, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

"if youre not getting better, youre getting worse"

Its a popular saying this time of year. However, the hidden message here is that you should expect regression due to age or regression to the mean from career years. With the age of the roster, progression might be more lkely than regression. The other two could be cited as legitimate concerns, but u absolutely agree not to the 2008 levels.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2010 11:44 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Dex, CarGo, Smith, Spilly..

are young enough that at least one of these four will show marked improvement in 2010.

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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2010 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Dex will, hopefully, and Spilly should be a little better than last year

I have no idea why you expect imporvement from Smith or Cargo though.

by biondino on Jan 10, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I do expect improvement from CarGo

I don’t know why you WOULDN’T expect improvement from CarGo! He was GREAT down the stretch and in the playoffs, and it wasn’t a fluke. He changed his approach; spraying the ball all over the field and not flailing wildly at bouncers to the plate. These were the two major concerns that arose with him during the first couple months in his Rockies career.

 I doubt his slugging % will be .525 for the season this year, but I definitely think he can hit 20+ homers and hit around .300. To me, that’s improvement.

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by Hollidayrain on Jan 10, 2010 4:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope you're right!

I just think expecting high level consitency from a young player who has a mixed history is maybe unrealistic. Rox Girl basically puts it how I see it, and she’s much more knowledgeable than I am, so read her posts :)

by biondino on Jan 10, 2010 4:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't see him as good as he was down the stretch

but as a .850 OPS guy playing elite defense I call that a significant improvement.

Cargo for CF

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't you think CarGo is more valuable in RF?

As vast as the outfield is in Coors, the Rockies need two CF’s to cover everything.

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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2010 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

It'll depend on how Dex performs in CF for reals

I see him making smarter reads on balls, making better plays, etc, than Dex does, but that could also be a seasoning thing.

I want my best OF in CF, and I feel that is Gonzalez.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 10:57 PM MST up reply actions  

"and I feel that is Gonzalez"

What?!? I look to you for deep sabermetrical analysis, and get “and I feel that is Gonzalez”!!! Unbelievable.

j/k

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by RdRnnr on Jan 11, 2010 6:36 AM MST up reply actions  

RZR and UZR back me up

but it’s a small sample still

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 11, 2010 6:51 AM MST up reply actions  

RZR shows CarGo was only slightly more valuable than Dex..

and UZR has him more valuable in LF.

I"m not sure why UZR has Dex rated so low in CF. His numbers are similar to CarGo’s across the board and Fowler even has a higher fielding percentage as well as some other peripherals RF/G (whatever that is).

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by Charlie77 on Jan 11, 2010 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

that's something I've been trying to puzzle out as well

I let 2010 be the decider, it’s not as if they both won’t be with the club in 2011

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 11, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

The good news is

de la Rosa threw 22 innings in KC’s minor league team in 2008 so he had 152 innings that season making a jump to 180 unlikely to cause problems.

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by Resolution on Jan 10, 2010 12:36 PM MST reply actions  

In other news

Looks like Chapman has signed with the Reds. Congrats to the Reds on getting a player who will most likely bust.

by mkorpal on Jan 10, 2010 12:38 PM MST reply actions  

God, thats true

Strasburg is quite a bit better than Chapman. By a lot.

by mkorpal on Jan 10, 2010 12:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Chapman's deal was for 5 years though.

I don’t think Strasburg’s was that long. But hm…this guy has a lively arm, he could work out.

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

which would you rather have?

Strasburg for 4yr/$15M or Chapman for 5 yr/$30M

There’s no contest here

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by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha yeah good point

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Absolutly

Also consider that Chapman is expected to need one or two years in the minors before he is ready. So, chances are you are going to pay him 6-12 years to pitch in the farm. Where’s Strasburg is only expected to spend a few months down there gearing up.

by mkorpal on Jan 10, 2010 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

and he still has a likely chance of being a bust

terrible move by the Reds, Jocketty is working hard to join to supplant Omar, Jim, Ed, and Dayton

That entire division is a disaster

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by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

should read:

working hard to join to supplant Omar, Jim, Ed, and Dayton

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by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Juan morillo and Craig house had lively arms too

He could work out, but I’m happy we weren’t the ones to take that risk

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2010 12:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I couldn't help but think this

the last few days, that someone was going to pay a lot of money for Juan Morillo 2.0
I think that Chapman is supposed to have a little livlier movement on his fastball, and better secondary stuff. But no command should worry people….

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

BUT RANDY JOHNSON IN A BAL

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I realize you are joking

but it’s nearly impossible to ‘project’ someone into a first ballot hall of famer…the odds of him turning into Juan Morillo are much higher than him turning into RJ…Also…Johnson was helped significantly by the fact that his downward plane on the ball is much greater for him being taller, and thus unique in comparison to other hard throwers. Maybe Chapman is tall and I just don’t know.

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 2:39 PM MST up reply actions  

this is the comparison I've seen other people make

or at least to explain away his control problems

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Wishcasting...

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

OMFG

no way this happens. no way

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by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

well now Matt Holliday's deal is really about 20 years right?

with some deferred payments?

I posted a link in a different thread earlier in the week

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

well, theoretically the Cards will still be

playing Holliday on a regular basis…:)

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

That's like the baseball version of

the Rick DiPietro lifetime deal….lol

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by Hollidayrain on Jan 10, 2010 3:31 PM MST up reply actions  

except DiPietro is pretty decent and had a couple years of being decent before the signing

Aroldis Chapman: Can he even pitch in MLB?

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Giving out lifetime contracts

for being decent . . . isn’t decent.

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by Russ Oates on Jan 10, 2010 8:33 PM MST up reply actions  

well he showed signs of being beyond decent when he started

his injury concerns have been somewhat detrimental however

I agree on principle

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 9:05 PM MST up reply actions  

this

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

it's beautiful

I don’t know who to root for in the late game, I like Warner and don’t want this to be his last game. OTOH, I always pull for Aaron Rodgers…

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by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I think I'm going for Colts or Baltimore since the Bengals are out

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't root for the Ravens. I just can't

Saints all the way (or Packers)

Anyone but the Chargers or Viqueens

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by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

yea only teams i can root for in the AFC are

the Colts and the Bengals but they are out so its all Colts

and in the NFC i wouldn’t mind seeing the Saints Cardinals or Packers…no vikings or cowgirls can’t stand them both

TULO = 2010 MVP!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I definitely am rooting for the Saints

but I’m getting some family pressure as my sister lived in Minneapolis for about 10 years….

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

THIS

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the Cowboys this year

I gotta say that I would want them to be in the Superbowl if the Packers and Saints fail. I’m also starting to really begrudgingly accepting what Brett Favre is doing this year. I don’t hate any of the NFC playoff teams this year besides the Eagles, and they got their butts beaten down.

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.

by bballrox4717 on Jan 10, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I have mixed feelings about Favre..

I kinda of like what is doing and its good to see an older player do well…but for the older player rep we could go with Warner, but Warner is so darn boring….lol

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

tough call..

would the Packers play the Vikings in the next round?

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:08 PM MST up reply actions  

nope

Saints

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I hate the Patriots and all Boston sports

Though I really don’t think the Colts could lose to them. I could definitely see Phillip Rivers getting flattened by David Harris, picked off by Revis, and going 1 and done.

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.

by bballrox4717 on Jan 10, 2010 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

ownt

"CarGo had to make some repairs to it. They called it a kitchen accident, but he was performing surgery. On teh lazor."

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by Hollidayrain on Jan 10, 2010 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

lol Edelman

completely missed handing that ball off to the fans after the TD

TULO = 2010 MVP!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:11 PM MST reply actions  

and that is this game in a nutshell...lol

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

really off topic but I just saw this headline and talk about an AWWW factor...

Firefighter revives kitty

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34792524

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:36 PM MST reply actions  

I really want to see this new Denzel Washington movie...

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:38 PM MST reply actions  

yeah, me too

color me intrigued.

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by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah that Daybreakers and Legion

are the next 3 i want to see

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

yes on Daybreakers....

not sure about Legion yet..

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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Um I really hope Simms is joking about a chip in the football

to determine whether it crossed the goalline..

might as just have the players play Madden 2025….shees

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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:42 PM MST reply actions  

okay I swear I'm typing full words...

*might as well and *sheesh…

ugh

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Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it's a pretty good idea

Well, not necessarily the chip, but the idea of using technology to determine whether the ball crosses the plane of the goal. They’ve done it in tennis for a while now (though it’s WAY easier to do it in tennis).

"CarGo had to make some repairs to it. They called it a kitchen accident, but he was performing surgery. On teh lazor."

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by Hollidayrain on Jan 10, 2010 4:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh ouch that looked really painful....

that has to be a dislocated shoulder…

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:45 PM MST reply actions  

wow what a play by Edelman

to bad it is probably going back

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:48 PM MST reply actions  

yep

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

good lord...

Brady had like 5 minutes there….how was there no holding on that much time?

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:49 PM MST reply actions  

because there the patriots and get a ton of calls there way

trust me i know as a Raiders fan :cough: tuck rule :cough:

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

indeed...lol

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:53 PM MST up reply actions  

okay so you like Rockies

and the Red Wings and the Raiders….how is this possible?

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:53 PM MST up reply actions  

my teams are all over the place

that is just all the teams i choose to like when i started watching sports in 1993 and i will stick with till i die.

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

fair enough...:)

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

its just funny because on this blog we are all buddies as rockies fans

when it comes to hockey and football and helk even basketball my teams rival all the denver/colorado teams lol

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

well its your discerning taste in choosing the Rockies

that we applaud :)

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

haha

yay

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you'Re on to something

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 10, 2010 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I have a friend who is a HUGE Patriots fan...

I’m sure he is a very unhappy camper….I feel kind of bad for him, because he really is a nice guy

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 1:58 PM MST reply actions  

sorry, I'm still a bitter Broncos/Longhorns fan here

and to feel any sympathy for the Patriots or their fans is like feeling bad the banks started collapsing

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

awww...truly he wasn't an annoying fan....

just a goofy older nerdy guy that liked his Patriots…

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:06 PM MST up reply actions  

oh yes he was a fan when they were the Boston Patriots...

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

so on the plus side, the Patriots lost

then again, we will have to hear ALL WEEK about how THE PATRIOTS LOST

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

boy and then some..

Not how the Ravens kicked their rears all over New England

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

He was a former coworker

and to make it worse…he sits across the cube from the NUMBER #1 Chargers fan in San Diego. Seriously, he had a license plate at his desk that said so…along with a gazillion other Charger things.

this is the only time I’m glad I don’t work there anymore lol

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

yea i can understand feeling bad for some fans

but for the team itself i will never ever ever feel bad for the Pats

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LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

He's had plenty of games to be happy about over the last decade and they weren't going to win this year anyway.

Pretty glad the Patriots lost but there are still too many teams left that I hate. In response to some of the comments above; what is everyone’s nightmare Superbowl scenario? For me it would have to be San Diego vs. Dallas. If this is the case I might actually not watch it because I’m guaranteed to see someone I absolutely despise win. At least if only one of them make it I could root for their opponent.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 10, 2010 9:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Leave Belichick Alone!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFfobQftP5k&NR=1&feature=fvwp

this made me laugh…found at MHR

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:10 PM MST reply actions  

That was hilarioussssss

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I somehow picture

doing this for the GCW….

that would have been funny?

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

*someone doing this

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

You've gotta stop with all these acronyms :P

What’s GCW?

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

great catcher war

Its been a more common acronym than OBP on purple row in 2010

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2010 3:01 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Great Catcher War :)

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Say what you want about Ray Lewis..

His firedupness rivals our dearly departed Yorvit……

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:18 PM MST reply actions  

yeah right!!!

I didn’t know how else to say it….:(

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Yorvit will never be dead to me..

as is evidenced by my sig line :)

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

-1

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I disagree on a Hammel fallapart

High BABIP and low LOB suggest that he’s due for an improvement, at least as far as ERA would show.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 2:35 PM MST reply actions  

I'm tempted to agree here

JDLR is the one that worries me more than Hammel. He was a huge part of the 2009 success, he clearly has the “stuff” to get it done, but with him we know that is not a physical thing in terms of repeating…

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

we're on the same page here

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 5:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Interesting to see that CDI has been working with Hammel this offseason.

I hope that helps both of them out…

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

something tells me

He won’t match his 09 k/BB though

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2010 2:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

That's part of what I was hoping to get to in the comments,

but I think I kind of have decided explaining how both of these pitchers hold their value probably deserves its own full post, or two for that matter. I mean it’s not certain either way, but I think both are going to be at least right around that 3 win mark in value next season. It’s interesting to me that JDLR was essentially the same pitcher as a starter in 2008 and 2009, he had roughly the same value/inning, he just increased the amount of innings started, and like you say Hammel’s turnaround doesn’t exactly scream out “fluke” there’s a lot to like there.

What worries me a bit about Hammel is the one driving factor in the change in value was a very large reduction in his walk rate, and yet according to FanGraphs, he threw exactly the same percentage of strikes (50.5%) in both 2008 and 2009. Part of that is pitching a lot more against teams like AZ and SF and a lot less against Boston and New York, and that’s not going to change in 2010, but I don’t know if the low BB number is completely sustainable without a higher strike percentage.

by Rox Girl on Jan 10, 2010 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

well i HIGHLY doubt he would be increasing his k rate and keeping his BB rate steady

You would be asking him to increase his franchise record k/BB rate. Otherwise, you expanded on pretty much what I thought

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2010 3:04 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't see that as a major problem, the 50.5% strikes

Aaron Cook was only at 50.7%

Ubaldo was at 48.8%

And while I know it’s different styles of pitching, I’d still say it’s not a problem.

Just looking at strikes for strikes, never mind whether they’re in the zone, or foul balls, or whatever, just any pitch that isn’t a ball, Hammel had 63.91%, which is higher than any other member of the rotation.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 5:53 PM MST up reply actions  

CHONE and James

basically see him remaining the same as last year, which to me would be pretty solid..

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

You're missing the point entirely

First, by using the word “fallapart” in your first reply and “problem” in this second one, you’re implying that I expect Hammel to not be valuable next season, which I don’t know where you’re getting that from. I haven’t once said he’s a problem or going to fall apart, I’ve in fact been trying to say that I’m seeing it as less likely than I did at the end of the season/

Second, my main point up in my first response to you is that Hammel will be adding baserunners via walk if he doesn’t improve the number of strikes he throws, and the two guys you use for evidence agree with that:
 
Jimenez’s walk rate was 3.51/9IP
Cook’s at 2.68,

are you really trying to suggest that Hammel at 2.18 is not going to add more walks by staying as he is? Somehow I doubt that. The question we would then come to is how many more baserunners and if improvements in his BABIP would offset that. His career average BABIP is .331, btw, and I’d actually expect a higher one now that he’s pitching at Coors half the time. Given that we’re now several years into his career, he actually seems to be a high BABIP type of pitcher, so I don’t really know how much improvement we should expect there.

And that other number you throw out there isn’t as reassuring you’re making it out to be, it’s showing me that he fooled a lot more hitters in 2009 than he normally has career-to-date when he throws pitches out of the zone. Sure, if he continues that trend great, we’ve got ourselves a solid mid-rotation starter, but is that scenario any more likely than the scenario that he got a bit lucky in that regard for a season? Do you have anything to support this claim? Again, I think moving to the NL probably had something to do with it, so some of those gains should stick, but I have a hard time believing they all will without some other evidence that he’s doing something different.

I guess the bottom line is that I do see him taking at least a bit of a step back next season, but not enough to cost the team a run at the division, at least I hope not, or drop us from the discussion of having one of the best rotations in the NL.

by Rox Girl on Jan 10, 2010 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm genuinely curious what makes you think that

throwing fewer strikes will ultimately lead to more walks? I understand that balls lead to walks, but I’m not sure this really takes the bigger picture into account.

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Wait... where do I say that throwing fewer strikes leads to more walks?

I thought I was saying just the opposite, or at least that he won’t continue to have his low walk total without throwing more strikes. Am I being that unclear tonight?

by Rox Girl on Jan 10, 2010 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

oh wait, now I see what you're getting at. Now it was my turn to misread.

What I’m basically saying is that his low walk number from 2009 just sort of popped out of nowhere for him as far as his career is concerned and there’s no discernible difference in what he’s doing with his pitches. I have no idea why it would be sustainable. I guess the throwing more strikes would be a difference that would make me believe it could continue more.

by Rox Girl on Jan 10, 2010 8:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree

hopefully he will figure out how to pitch at Coor’s this year too.

by BringItHome on Jan 10, 2010 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

oops

that was supposed to be in RMN’s comment about Hammel improving. I’m still learning how to use the World Wide Web

by BringItHome on Jan 10, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

He had a K/BB ratio higher by 1 at home (3.72 compared to 2.75, both very good)

and an absurdly high BABIP in Coors as well.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know why

so many speculate that Cargo will regress this year. Everything about last year seemed to indicate that he was just climbing into his potential not maxing it out. I look for him to possibly be the Rockies MVP this year. He has too many weapons to not play well.

by BringItHome on Jan 10, 2010 3:35 PM MST reply actions  

This is probably another full post later this off season too...

If you were to ask me which Rockies position player I thought had the best chance of being a 5+ win player in 2010 besides Tulo, I’d probably pick Gonzalez. Yet I also think the more likely scenario is that he takes a step back next year. What you have with him is very high upside, MVP level, as you suggest, and a downside just a bit over his 2008 production, which makes for a very very wide range of possibilities. The safe bet statistically (and why there is so much talk of regression to his career average) is a small step back in 2010, and then further steps forward in 2011 and beyond. That said, maybe he skips the step back this season. Talent-wise, I don’t think you’re guess is too outlandish, it’s just not the most likely scenario statistically.

by Rox Girl on Jan 10, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Let's hope for the latter

I wonder what the team leaning on him fully as the starting left fielder will do.
1. add more pressure and make him feel like he has to do too much
2. give him more confidence knowing he’s our guy

On a side note another player who it seems has no choice but to improve upon last year would be Spilly. I’m not savvy enough to check out the +/- ( I think Rox Girl needs to hold a training seminar) but there is no way he could do worse than last year. We’ll need sharp improvement from his right handed bat especially since it looks like we’ll not be adding any others.

by BringItHome on Jan 10, 2010 4:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Spilly's definitely a strong candidate to improve in 2010...

and one case where regression will almost certainly help the Rockies in 2010 because he figures to bounce back up toward his career average. Actually he’s not the only right handed bat that figures to improve as Iannetta and believe it or not, Clint Barmes, are both pretty good bets to see at least mild improvement on their 2009 production, and whoever we get to replace Atkins as a bench option will also likely be a pretty substantial upgrade on Garrett’s 2009.

by Rox Girl on Jan 10, 2010 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

The problem with a Spilly improvement

is that it will likely take a major regression from one of CarGo, Dex or Smith to give Spilly a ton of playing time to show improvement. I imagine he’ll play a little against LHP – but not a ton…

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 4:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I disagree

I think he can return to his career average without causing a regression anywhere else. The at bats should work out somewhere near the same as last year with just a few less going to Spilly.

by BringItHome on Jan 10, 2010 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

he didn't say that

he said “it will likely take a major regression from one of CarGo, Dex or Smith to give Spilly a ton of playing time to show improvement”

That doesn’t mean that Spills won’t return to career average, it means that he’s the 5th outfielder.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 7:02 PM MST up reply actions  

right

and what I meant was that he can get the same number of at bats as last year and possibly still improve. His entire career has been nothing but limited at bats in a back up role. He’s used to it I’m sure. I don’t think we need a major surge from him just enough to be a legitimate threat against lefties.

by BringItHome on Jan 10, 2010 8:26 PM MST up reply actions  

well, he CAN

but that’s not really his call

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 9:06 PM MST up reply actions  

My big concern...

is that so much of 2010 is predicated on “ifs”: We’ll be better…..

  • If Iannetta and Stewart and Barmes (or his replacement) put the ball in play with more regularity,
  • If DLR and Hammell are able to take it to the next level, or at least not regress below where they reached
  • If Seth Smith, Dexter Fowler and CarGo can deliver over a full season
  • If Jeff Francis is healthy

So, yeah, I’m prepared for this season to go wither way. They may be a thrilling young team that takes the division or it all may fall apart. But, when you’ve go a limited payroll, that’s just life.

by BroJB on Jan 10, 2010 4:56 PM MST reply actions  

Isn't that the case for EVERY team though?

That’s why they play the games…

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 5:03 PM MST up reply actions  

this

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

the irony of this is just so delicious

so filling, that…I just don’t think I’ll have room for seconds

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 6:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Okay, this in interesting.

First of all, this isn’t probably what any of us wants to hear because we all always want the team to get better, but unless the Dodgers make some real move to make up the ground that they’ve lost this off season, the Rockies won’t actually have to get better to be the best team on paper for the division in 2010 (and until the games are actually played, “best on paper” is the best we can do), status quo should do the trick.

Second, to maintain status quo, you seem to imply that all of those four bullets you mention must happen, when actually only a couple such turns in our favor would do the trick, and you neglect to mention a couple of the more likely events that would also work such as a Cook rebound or even just a full season of a productive Betancourt/Street duo in the pen. Yes, the season has a lot of ifs, as Hizilla mentions, every team does, but our ifs are the best in the division right now.

by Rox Girl on Jan 10, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Major Question Marks

Arizona:
Does Webb come back at previous levels?
Does Connor Jackson come back at previous levels?
Does Chris Young not suck?

LA:
Does Billingsley rebound?
Do they get anything from their 4/5 SP?
What do they do at 2B?
Does Manny rebound to pre-suspension levels.
Do their young guys (Ethier, Kemp, Loney, Kershaw) remain status quo/improve/regress?
Does their bullpen have much left in the tank?

SF:
Who scores runs?
Do they get league average production from their starters not named Timmah or Cain?
Does Cain repeat (serious candidate for regression)?

I like our question marks more than those other teams. I’m sure I missed a few.

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

poor Padres:(

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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't really

know enough about them to know what their question marks are. I could probably name the starting 8 and the rotation for every team in the division but the Pads. I might be able to name 3-4 starters on the Pads…

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

That's not to say

I think they should be counted out, because they were pretty good towards the end of the season – I just don’t know anything about them right now.

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

The have AGone

and a Hairston, and Everth Cabrera. Blanks. And their LF was supposed to be good but isn’t. I forget his name. Oh and Tony Gwynn Jr.

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

don't forget Kouz

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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly...

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

i think you must be meaning headley

And which hairston? Scott was traded last year. venable could be good

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 11, 2010 7:36 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Who are they again? :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 10, 2010 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

What about San Diego

Major question mark: will Rox Girl remember that they’re in the same division as the Rockies?

by controlled_slide on Jan 10, 2010 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

hahahahaha

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the Dodgers

stand to show the most regression. I think Eithier will regress quite a bit not to mention what they will lose at second. Wolf leaving creates quite a hole and from everything I’ve heard they aren’t looking to spend much money if any. Granted they will probably see some relief from Manny but not nearly enough to compensate.

I worry a lot about Arizona actually. They could come back pretty strong. We’ll see what kind of offense SF puts together but at this point I’m thinking Rockies and Diamond back will be the contenders.

by BringItHome on Jan 10, 2010 7:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know I think the D'backs win 85 games max

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 10, 2010 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

OT...Packers have tied the Cardinals 38-38

10:00 min left in the 4th qtr

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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:21 PM MST reply actions  

well the last 10 minutes maybe lol...

the rest was pretty snoozy

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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:25 PM MST up reply actions  

So will the Packers answer back...

I say yes :)

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the fan wearing a cheese sombrero....

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:34 PM MST reply actions  

rodgers for the 1st down...good work there

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:35 PM MST reply actions  

that was a great effort

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

what a game this has turned into

whoever gets the ball in OT wins it after the packers tie it at 45

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:36 PM MST reply actions  

although they might score to quick

and AZ might have a chance to win it in regulation

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

bad decision by Rodgers there

almost picked

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:39 PM MST reply actions  

oh man if McFadden wasn't unconscious

he might have reached out and grabbed that ball as it dropped

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:39 PM MST reply actions  

And yes the Pack answered back!!! wowza

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:44 PM MST reply actions  

TD

good and bad for AZ…i think they sort of let him score there lol

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:44 PM MST reply actions  

man...it looks like it.....

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

shades of SuperBowl against the Broncos..

where GB claimed they let us score

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

lol true

TULO = 2010 MVP!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

i made that comment to my dad

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 6:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I just woke up from a really strange nap

I dreamed that a whole bunch of Rowbots got together for a Rockies-Giants game, we watched Ubaldo pitch a complete game. After the game, we were going to someone’s house for a picnic, but we couldn’t eat because RMN decided to remove the back door from two of the cars in the parking lot, so PF and WolfMarauder and SDCat (at least my brain’s idea of what she looks like) and I all sat around and made him reinstall the doors before we could go eat.

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 5:46 PM MST reply actions  

he had a whole set of tools

and PF started putting one back on, and then said “forget this, you do it RMN”

I think it was supposed to be a prank, just directed at random strangers

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

wow

I don’t know how to do that

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

okay that really made me laugh!! awesome...

I had a dream about the Avalanche last night hurling pucks towards my mom’s house in Colorado….weird

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:48 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha crazy

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Uhhhh yea...............

Don’t really know how to respond to that

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 10, 2010 9:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Geeeez Packers.

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:50 PM MST reply actions  

ah man

looks like a chip shot FG

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:50 PM MST reply actions  

dude...you should have tackled instead of

trying to strip the ball!!!

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:51 PM MST reply actions  

Eat up those words ;)

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I am pretty shocked

he’s always my fantasy kicker and just doesnt miss these

Stunned.

God really wants the Packers-Vikings to play for the NFC championship

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Jan 10, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

No doubt, Rackers is great.

But he choked just about as much as Shawn Graham yesterday

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

yea stunning

he is always reliable

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

We need you on the voodoo committee

This year when Broxton comes in to save a game against us, we need you to be there saying “Broxton always converts his save opportinites against the Rockies”.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 10, 2010 9:58 PM MST up reply actions  

was a good move i think

they were already in field goal range so he had to try and strip it

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

MISSED IT WOW

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

Rackers pulled that ball SO much

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

MISSED ITT

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

wow...he missed the chip shot....

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Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

man

i wish this OT would turn into college rules because whoever gets the ball first is going to win ugh

TULO = 2010 MVP!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:53 PM MST reply actions  

I was just gonna say....

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Packer ball

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 5:54 PM MST reply actions  

Yesssssssssssss

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

omg

fumble recovery TD cardinals win

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LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 6:01 PM MST reply actions  

What a game.

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 6:01 PM MST reply actions  

out of all the offense in this game

defensive play wins it

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 6:01 PM MST reply actions  

haha! unbelievable.

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 6:01 PM MST up reply actions  

And look who caused the fumble.

The guy that sucked the entire game: Adams haha wow

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 10, 2010 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha yea

TULO = 2010 MVP!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

OMG!!! you've got to be kidding me????????????

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 6:01 PM MST reply actions  

His WR making no effort to get open

and he holds on to the ball way too long – sometimes you just gotta throw it away…

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by Hizilla on Jan 10, 2010 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

yep....just kinda sad for Rodgers...

what a great comeback he engineered…

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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

yea seriously

422 yards 4 touchdowns all basically in the 2nd half and he losses

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LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

He beat Favre.

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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2010 10:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Dear god

That made me soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sad

by mkorpal on Jan 10, 2010 6:07 PM MST reply actions  

man that sucks bro

unreal i can’t imagine how you feel…crazy crazy game

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 10, 2010 6:08 PM MST up reply actions  

seriously this.....:(

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 6:12 PM MST up reply actions  

you and all of PackerNation...I heard the wailing from here in San Diego

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

The Mississippi

will be flooding my daybreak.

by mkorpal on Jan 10, 2010 6:10 PM MST up reply actions  

so you don't want a RockiesNation?

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 6:12 PM MST up reply actions  

nope

Colorado fans earn their teams

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 6:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought the original - "Red Sox Nation"

Was stupid. I think that other, derivative, “nations” are more stupid. I want no part of Rockies Nation.

by controlled_slide on Jan 10, 2010 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

The Royal rooters though practically won a world series or two for them

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I would toss one that ain’t never been seen by this generation."

by arpagamos on Jan 10, 2010 7:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Raider Nation..

ugh

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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2010 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

true,but they do

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I would toss one that ain’t never been seen by this generation."

by arpagamos on Jan 10, 2010 7:05 PM MST up reply actions  

MLB Network viewer tip- Holy Land Hardball

Great little documentary on tonight about the formation of the Israeli Baseball League.

I’m watching right now and thought I would share…quite interesting and fun..:)

check your local listings…

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 8:44 PM MST reply actions  

sorry make that Israel Baseball League...

being an Israeli is not required….lol

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 10, 2010 8:45 PM MST reply actions  

A little surreal note for a Sunday night

Willy Taveras makes 4million this year and OPS’d .559 last year.

Purple Row: Take this personally
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 11:16 PM MST reply actions  

well, he was

by the smart team anyhow

Purple Row: Take this personally
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 10, 2010 11:28 PM MST up reply actions  

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