Thursday Rockpile: Fernando Tatis vs Mark DeRosa
by Rox Girl on Jan 14, 2010 8:54 AM MST
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PrintNow that we have official confirmation from Thomas Harding that the Rockies are interested and talking to Fernando Tatis, I thought a comparison with Mark DeRosa might be interesting.
Fernando Tatis 2009 vs Mark DeRosa 2009:
Age:
- Tatis 34
- DeRosa 34
Batting Average:
- Tatis .282
- DeRosa .250
OBP:
- Tatis .339
- DeRosa .319
Slugging percentage:
- Tatis .438
- DeRosa .433
OPS+
- Tatis 105
- DeRosa 83
Hmm... but what about the defense? DeRosa's versatility gives him a huge edge there, right?
UZR/150:
At 1B:
- Tatis 3.0
- DeRosa (-36.1)
At 3B:
- Tatis 7.4
- DeRosa (-8.7)
In LF:
- Tatis 17.0
- DeRosa 25.2
In RF:
- Tatis (-64.9)
- DeRosa 39.4
Take the UZR numbers with the usual small sample size caveats, DeRosa's not really going to have a ten win defensive advantage if both he and Tatis were stuck in right field for the entire season. Of course my general point is that these two players really don't look that different on the stat sheet, and at least in the games I saw last season, they didn't really look that different as players with the exception of their skin pigmentation.
While I suspect some unintentional racial preferencing by GM's might have given DeRosa somewhat of a white guy bonus, I would be remiss to point out that there were probably other factors. DeRosa, in theory, can play the middle infield, while those theories that push Tatis there are mostly considered silly pseudoscience by mainstream scholars (of course, Tatis did play nine games at second or short in 2009). DeRosa's been on playoff teams the last two seasons, Tatis has been on the Mets. The real trouble is, the team that wound up signing DeRosa really has little to no use of his theoretical middle infield abilities and seems poised to limit their use of him to left field as a starter and third base as a backup, and the playoff argument's just as silly with DeRosa as it is with Jason Marquis. DeRosa has used friendlier home parks to hit more home runs, and the teams he's been on have seen fit to use him as an everyday starter, whereas Tatis has been confined more to being a true utility bench player.
But again, we're left with two 35 year old right handed corner utility players who have similar offensive numbers over the last two seasons, similar defensive numbers at the positions they're going to play, but what will likely end up a very large difference in the amount they get paid.
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Numbers of times hitting two grand slams in one inning:
Mark DeRosa 0
Fernando Tatis 1
Winnar.
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plus, if we sign Tatis
there is no way he can hit a granny off of Morales after the All Star Break.
Attention Whore.
Rec'd
best reason right there Muzia. Watching that was pretty rough in the pants
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Actually, there is, but it would require a really really bad development to happen first
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by Mondogarage on Jan 14, 2010 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
Like Morales and Rogers being traded for Kershaw at the deadline?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
my thoughts exactly
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
i was going to write this just as i came on and looked at the blog
but good thing i read the comments before that haha nice one
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 14, 2010 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
Number of times hitting two grand slams in one inning:
Fernando Tatis: 1
Any player EVER: 0
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CONCLUSION
FERNANDO TATIS IS THE BEST PLAYER EVER :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
I wonder how many times
Any players have ever had the chance. It can’t be too common to bat twice in the same inning, and have the bases juiced each time o_O
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 14, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions
It would take a lot of research to find out
I want to know though
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah that's too much info to go through
how about players hitting two grand slams in one game?
The only names that come to mind are Willingham in 08 at Milwaukee and I’m pretty sure Robin Ventura did it with the White Sox, he had to he’s like second all-time in gslams.
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13 plauers have done it
Here’s the link to baseball Almanac
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 15, 2010 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
WSJ says 1 in 10,000 chance
that a player hits two in a game
A pair of grand slams takes unlikely opportunity and two good swings. That these combine rarely can be seen from the fact that there have been just 90 grand slams this year in 1,483 games, meaning a given team has just a 3% chance of hitting a grand slam in any given game, assuming the rates even out. Extending that assumption, a team has just a one in 1,100 shot at hitting two grand slams in a game, and the chance that the same player to do it the first time does it the second time, as well, is about one in 10,000.
One player hitting two in the same inning is outrageously unlikely, could be fun to calculate.
Nice job remembering the recent ones
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 15, 2010 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
I wonder what would happen if Brett Myers was pitching against Fernando Tatis
with the bases jacked
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
GIDP
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
why do you have to wreck my perfect storms
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Seeing their 2009 stats side by side is pretty interesting
For reference ZiPS is projecting Tatis in 2010 with a .277 avg, .345 obp, .458 slg, 12 hr, and 113 ops+
That's only slightly higher than the Marcel projection.
CHONE is expecting .257/.325/.417 . Those numbers are still higher than Barmes’ projections, though.
I think CHONE hates everyone
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah it's pretty negative on everyone
and Marcel should be taken with an even bigger grain of salt as it’s extremely simple by design. They all seem to be in the same ballpark though, and are about what I’d expect from a utility guy.
The more I think about it,
the more I like Tatis. He has a good glove just about everywhere, and has the offense to back it up. Will probably sign for a good price as well.
Question is, who will be the 6th infielder? Biceps?
Jeff Francis and Jerry Schemmel interviews
are up on the 1510 website
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Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
oh I should mention its under the Armstrong/Shapiro show...
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Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yippee
Actually, I’d be interested to hear Yip
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
yep me too
and yep on yip :)
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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in baseball. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
He's a rookie for the Avalanche
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yip is a bad ass
not to be confused with a BAMF like Ryan O’Reilly
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Ah.
I haven’t been able to follow them as much as I’d like. I know the names of a few of the other rookies, but I didn’t know him.
I don't really follow the Avs
but mkorpal was watching a game, and I caught a glimpse of a very Asian looking fellow on the bench. He didn’t really know much about him either, but the next game I watched, he scored his first NHL goal. The next time I caught an Avs game, he scored two.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
Yep Asian Canadian...:)
Avs have a good little thing going on this season :)
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Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
How about Mike Klis thinking that every single person in MLB took steroids?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
My mom thinks most of the Rockies have
and swears thats why Tulo blew up is quad …..
ps my mom LOVES the Rockies and Tulo
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Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
You have to go with innocent until proven guilty though right?
I mean it’s not fair to think that every player who gets injured was on steroids right. (Especially after testing began)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
I know a former pro
who says that almost everyone was doing it. Assume the worst.
Now or 10 years ago?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions
Retired this year
started in the World Series in the late 90s. Came up in the early 90s.
I think you just blew this person's cover with those clues.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 15, 2010 12:26 AM MST up reply actions
One of my best friends
dated Kyle Farnsworth’s ex and she said he had been juicing since the end of high school.
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and a good thing he was too
or else he’d be a wild headcase of a pitcher prone to giving up terrible home runs at the worst ti
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 15, 2010 8:59 AM MST up reply actions
That would have been bad...
Almost as bad of a decision as a pitcher at the plate charging the mound at a pitcher who’s on the juice……
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I missed that one
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 15, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
Like this?
Oh wait, Ventura wasn’t a pitcher.
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Really?
Seems like that could be a lot of people. At any rate, I doubt very much he would care at all about me posting his thoughts anonymously, so long as I don’t confirm who he is. Fair to say he knows/cares very, very little about the baseball blogosphere.
Mets 2010 season is off to a good start
Carlos Beltran is having knee surgery and will probably miss opening day. There are grumblings that he’s doing it against Mets officials’ wishes, but the NY press can make hay out of nothing.
Beltran is over rated
he’s being payed to be a cornerstone but refuses to show any sort of interest in being a team leader. Just another case of great talent trumped by even greater Ego.
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i can't believe i spelled paid as payed
poor start to the posts already today.
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He's somewhat overrated
but he’s an elite-level defender in CF when he’s healthy and his .372 career wOBA (126 wRC+) is pretty outstanding for the position he plays.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
Indeed
Overrated or not, the Mets need him healthy in 2010. Considering the rash of injuries on that team I have to wonder about their training staff if it continues. Sure they have some aging players but the number of injuries, especially last year, has been incredible.
skill wise he's got great talent
and he is superior defensively, i don’t argue with that at all. But there’s a certain amount of hustle you see in players who bust their butts and it goes recognized (Darrin Erstad for example) and there are certain players that develope a reptuation for not going all out and not giving the impression they’re not always trying to be at their best. I think Beltran is one of my headliners for that category. He’s just simply a player I don’t respect, a player who’s natural talents alone make them one of the better players in the league but their lack of motivation keeps them from being one of the best in the league.
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hilarious that Beltran's "meh" thwomps the everloving daylights out of Erstad's "BEST"
I like to see good hustle as well.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
haha good call RMN
that’s life tho, not many people would say Craig Counsell is more talented then (insert any player’s name here), but you still gotta love him. Guys who made it to where they are because they played the game right always have a place in the hearts of true baseball (unless they seriously burned your team, kind of like I can see Houston fans forever hating the crap out of Scotty Pods after the 05 WS)
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man, I hate scotty pods for that dinger as well
I don’t care if he did wear the purple pinstripes or if his wife is hot.
I like seeing guys who are legitimately talented really work hard to reach that ceiling. Scrappy hustlers who really aren’t that good at baseball but try really really hard will always have that special place in the heart of America.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Totally agreed
But with that mindset, it makes me hold even stronger discontent for players who are legitimately talented but cut corners and feel they don’t need to hustle because they’ll be able to get by on their talents. Hence my beef with Beltran.
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There's also one other big difference between
Erstad and Beltran
is it the reason that Omar Minaya signed Beltran and wouldn't sign Erstad?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
The Mets need him though
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
I see that he came out to CO
to see Dr. Steadman. That guy must be some sort of wizard when it comes to knees. I’ve heard his name associated with lots of high profile athletes.
I actually did some work with that clinic in Vail
As part of my senior design project. It’s one of the best clinics in dealing with athletic injury and rehab. IIRC, Dr. Steadman was the one who pioneered the microfracture technique to regenerate knee cartilage.
And the offices are interesting, they have TONS of signed posters/jerseys/whatever from the pro athletes who have been treated there over the years.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 14, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
They've been a leading medical firm in sports for a long time
The Steadman-Hawkins clinic has been big in sports medication for a while, that’s where the Rockies head doctor Thomas Noonan came from. Steadman came from Cali to Vail as a highly regarded knee-specialist and then joined with Richard Hawkins, who specialized in arm and shoulder problems.
They opened a location in DTC Denver where many of the surgeries and rehab sessions are held by Dr. Thomas Noonan who is now the Rockies Medical Director. I don’t know if Noonan still performs many of the surgeries anymore as I haven’t talked to him in over three years since he performed my arm surgery and I finished my rehab by I do know they have an excellent operation and are very committed and well educated to their careers.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
Either that, or...
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by Mondogarage on Jan 14, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
Couldn't fit a Charlie Scheen pun in there too?
What happens in Vail will some become available…
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So the Diamondbacks signed Adam LaRoche...
They really made an interesting stab at improving the right side of their infield this winter, and did it pretty economically. I think they’ll be back in the thick of things in 2010.
crap. he tore it up with atl last year.
I am officially very worried about az. Their offense is way better than the giants and their pitching is just as good, if Webb is healthy.
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by squalene203 on Jan 14, 2010 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
Ehhhh
I don’t know if Adam LaRoche and Kelly Johnson is much of an upgrade. From what they had last year i suppose, sure, but in terms of ability to keep their team in contention through the season I don’t see this being very significant. After all, bringing over what once was the future of the Braves right side won’t combine to be as damaging as Chad Tracy was. I hope that guy stays in the AL forever, he KILLED the Rockies constantly.
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LaRoche is a pretty decent 1B
average defensively, above average offensively. I mean, he’s no Helton or Gonzalez, but he’s similar/better than James Loney and certainly better than Huff or Ishikawa.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
and at a reasonable price, too
1 yr/ between $4-5M
Very good signing for the Snakes.
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agreed completely
I wonder if he has a hatred for Atlanta or something.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
or the Gints
considering he accepted a contract worth a quarter of the value, less than a week later.
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I think you can blame that on his agent
it’s amazing to me that he’d turn down the 2y/$17.5M deal, demand a 3y deal then accept a 1y/$4-5M deal.
It makes me wonder
How legit that 2/17.5 deal ever was. That seems crazy that a player would revise his expectations so quickly. Unless he just hates the golden gate bridge or something.
I think the rumor was that Sabean pulled it off the table before LaRoche could make a decision
personally, I would have taken about .002 seconds to make that decision…
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gotta be quick with Brian Sabean
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
I think it was offered earlier in the offseason, but just reported recently
so he may have been overestimating his value dramatically early on.
I agree with that
Loney has better contact, LaRoche has better power. Loney has never quite taken the steps forward I thought he would. When he first came up I thought he was about to be the left-handed Derrek Lee and althought Lee did take a little while to fully develope, I don’t see the same power potential in Loney that i first did when he came up, kinda like his ceiling was much lower then it looked like
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
Johnson's definitely not an upgrade at 2B,
I think I pointed this out a few weeks ago when they signed him that even in a good year he’d be a downgrade from what they got out of Felipe Lopez and the Roberts/Ojeda tandem that replaced him just because those three all had unusually productive seasons in 2009.
LaRoche, OTOH, is absolutely superior to their 1B’s from 2009. You’re definitely vastly overrating Chad Tracy here.
saying they can't match Tracy's number was a joke
That was just an exaguration on the truth that Tracy played well against the Rockies and I’m glad he’s gone. LaRoche is an upgrade, LaRoche is a very solid 1B and the DBack’s 1B production has been less then ideal. From the moment the move was made for Kelly Johnson I believed he was an over-valued pick up. Lopez was good for them before being shipped to Milwaukee and Johnson has never been overly-impressive to me.
DBack’s certainly are taking a step in the right direction with their offense for next year, but I think it’s safe to say that if they’re going to win a playoff birth it’s going to be lead by their pitching. Upton and Reynolds are significant bats in any lineup, but they have a lot of variables that could make things go wrong and have a repeat of last season. Obviously the most glarring is what they get out of Webb, but their bullpen doesn’t have great stability, players like Stephen Drew, Connor Jackson and Chris Young are all fine talents but need to show they can be healthy and produce for a full season, plus they don’t have much in terms of prospects who are pushing to show they’re major league ready.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
This is pretty much where I see them,
Dangerous once more and not to be overlooked, but not quite at the talent level the Rockies are, particularly in terms of depth. They could win the division with the right breaks, and I’m actually about as wary of them right now as I am the Giants, particularly after this LaRoche signing which I like a lot more than the Huff signing in San Fran, but I still think the Rox are superior to both on paper for 2010.
I saw that, they must be ecstatic over at the 'Pit to have a legit 1B again
well, one that isn’t Tony Clark anyway.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
I bet they don't win more than 85 games.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
+1 WAR
My rough stab at the value of adding LaRoche to the DBacks.
A = (LaRoche – Jackson)
B = (Jackson – Parra)
C = (Jackson Def @ LF – Jackson Def @ 1B)
D = Hitting bonus moving from 1B to LF
E = Added bench depth
f(x) = WAR added.
f(x) = A + B + C + D + E
f(x) = -1.0 + 1.3 + 0.3 + 0.4 + 0.1
f(x) = 1.1 WAR
Contract: 1 year @ $4M-$5M
Marginal Gain: 1.1 / 1.5 = 73.3%
Probably a “push”
vr, Xei
Sucks about LaRoche signing with AZ. He's going to be a good addiSIGN TATIS DAMMIT
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jan 14, 2010 11:03 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I DON'T THINK THESE TWO EVENTS ARE LINKED BEYOND THIS DISCUSSION
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
They're not. At all. Just my thoughts at the moment.
If you don’t like it, you can kiSIGN TATIS DAMMIT!
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jan 14, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
Other factors.....
With veteran bench guys, other things do come into play:
- are they good clubhouse guys?
- are they good mentors for younger players?
- do they offer certain fundamental skills (bunting, baserunning, smart decision making, etc) that are tougher to quantify?
I’ve never paid much attention to Derosa or Tatis, so I couldn’t tell you how they measure up, but it’s quite possible the choice gets based on stuff like this (at least in part).
- Hey, it’s my first “Stats aren’t everything” post of 2010! :)
I don't think I ever want to see Fernando "Grand Friggin Salami" Tatis bunt
ever
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
True....
…I was speaking in generic terms about the sort of things GMs look at for veteran bench guys.
oh agreed completely
I’m just thinking it would be the most awkward bunting ever if it came from Tatis
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
Quick check....
…and discovered that Matt Stairs has five lifetime sac bunts.
So there are least five times in history that provided more awkward bunting than Fernando. :)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
Tatis has much better form
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
haha thank you PF!
watching BK bunt was like watching Shaq put up three FT. The only thing more brutal then watching him bunt was watching him swing.
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I remember one time he had an RBI single to RF
Place went nuts
little guy could move, too
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
If RJ can hit a bomb...
and OJ can get away with murder then why can’t BK have his duck fart rbi?
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
Good points,
But to offer a counter, I think the Giants did implicitly quantify some of this stuff when they signed DeRosa for $12 million. Assuming that Tatis signs for around the $3 million that Juan Uribe got (and this might be a high estimate), they’re saying that they think Mark DeRosa’s clubhouse/bunting/mentoring skills are worth as much as $9 million more than Tatis, or at least twice as much value as Tatis on a season to season basis. I’m sorry, but I hope DeRosa’s sitting in the clubhouse inventing secret trick plays for that kind of money.
I don’t think it’s entirely akin to putting your team’s money into spells from a voodoo witch doctor, but it’s too close for my liking. I could see these intangibles having some monetary value, but $3 million’s worth? I just don’t believe that. I think more than anything this once again shows that Sabean’s a GM that has his priorities out of whack.
I hear you....
And, as i mentioned, I was speaking in generic terms about veteran bench guys. I haven’t paid nearly enough attention to either of these guys over the years to render any kind of opinion about their relative intangibles.
I will say this – based on O’D’s track record in these matters, he wouldn’t be talking to Tatis if he had even the slightest qualms about him fitting into the team structure. I have every reason to believe that, should the Rox sign him, Tatis will be a quality addition.
Hey I just won the opportunity to buy Opening Day/Boston tickets
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yay
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in baseball. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
You should...
…buy a couple of Opening Day tickets for a dude.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jan 14, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
my dad and I come first, and more than likely my brother
but baseball’s become a 2nd priority for him. Pfff college…didn’t stop me…
so we’ll see
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
I read this as
my dad and I come first, and more than likely my brother
but baseball’s become a 2nd priority for him. Pf
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
Oh and my Mom, forgot about her
she enjoys opening day, sort of. She thinks it’s too cold. We’ll see if she’s interested
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
Fair enough.
I always lose at those “chances to buy tickets” things. Probably better off, though, since I’m not a “local.” Especially after the ’07 WS debacle.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jan 14, 2010 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
this is the first time I didn't lose on one of those
see you there RMN
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
same here
and i’ve already taken April 9 off work too lol.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
I'm doing that at the moment, scheduling myself off
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
I have an extra code.
Attention Whore.
by Muzia on Jan 14, 2010 12:18 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
already? how?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
I might as well
I had my brothers carpet bomb it, they both did their email addresses and their wives. Haven’t heard if they were picked yet.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 14, 2010 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
my friend won't have the money
to buy tix, so he passed it along to me, knowing I will find someone who can use it on here.
First person to email me gets it.
Attention Whore.
TWSS
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions
I did too
But reading the email I wasn’t quite clear.
Is it like the playoffs where you have to buy for opening day and then the Red Sox as well? Or can you just get OD?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 14, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
I think you can get either or
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
yeah its either/or
you can buy up to 16 tickets, 4 for each game
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
DAMN
now I want my code back. I was going to get Sox tix for my friend, but I want opening day too…
Attention Whore.
wait
reading comprehension fail.
So I can buy tix for opening day and one of the Sox games?
Attention Whore.
That's the way I'm reading the email
It isn’t explicitly worded that you have to buy both the way the 2009 postseason emails were. You should be able to pick and choose.
I think it's whatever you want to buy
It says “Limit: A maximum of 4 tickets for each game.”
So maximum limits, but no minimum, like with the NLDS last year.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 14, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
Do It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
Me too, so excited!
Getting 4 tix to each game….whether or not I can eventually attend is of no consequence right now.
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by Mondogarage on Jan 14, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
I...the...words
that’s the perfectest edays ever
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
my best was when Flogging Molly came in 2007 Edays
oh man
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
3 Extra codes now
I want these to be used so someone take April 9 off and come to Opening Day (it should be a holiday anyway)!
JFK
Me too!!!
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 14, 2010 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
Oh sweet
Me too!
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 14, 2010 1:06 PM MST up reply actions
I did too, but I won't even be here, so I gave the account to my father.
It was his idea to sign up anyway.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
Wanna help a Haitian?
Donate tents Saturday through Monday at the First Universalist Church of Denver, Hampden and Colordo Boulevard, 8-6. Sorry for the off-topic pitch, but I’m trying to spread the word. Thanks!
I can smell spring
Absolutely....I donated money this morning. Breaks my heart
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this is kosher, don't sweat it
I’m still trying to figure out what, where, how to give, you know? I hate just throwing money at a problem, but I can’t very well go lace up my steel toes and go do stuff, I’m here in the friggin’ states
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
I know what you mean.
I don’t promote one over the other…but I personally have donated to Americares.org. Seems like they keep a good accounting of how the money is spent.
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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in baseball. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
don't think of it as "throwing" money to a problem
I’ve been involved with a charity for a long time, and quite frankly ANYTHING will help these people. Doesn’t matter. The littlest thing can be the biggest gesture
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it's not really what I meant
I mean that I want to go get on a plane and go help move crap and fix stuff and be a direct help, feel like I’m actually DOING something, rather than just “oh well I have [sum of money] good luck! Praying for you!”
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
not that there's anything wrong whatsoever with donations
I don’t mean for it to come off that way, I just feel like I could give more by actually being there
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
Oh I understand RMN
I wasn’t getting on you. You can only do what you are capable of….I guess what I’m saying is the mere fact you thought about it is also very good. I think it’s admirable.
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I get that, too.
If you really wanted to, you could probably find an organization sending volunteers. Or if you can’t, find one sending people like you and donate to them.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
There are a ton of worthwhile organizations.
I don’t think you can really go wrong.
I just donated to my church (partnering with other aid organizations) this morning. They’re sending a bunch of hygiene kits, supplies for newborns, food, medical supplies, etc. In fact, I was just reading one of the press releases and one of the planes is being sent from Denver today probably. Cool!
My cousin's husband is originally from Haiti
I may just ask him if his family down there could use some money to help rebuild
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
Report out of New York is that
Carlos Beltran had the surgery without the Mets permission.
Uh Oh :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:31 PM MST reply actions
According to the conference call with John Ricco, the Mets wanted him to get a third opinion on his knee injury (both the Mets doctor and Beltran’s doctor thought he needed it) and Boras basically told them to screw off and Beltran did it so he could be ready earlier in the season.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
This is a disaster for the Mets
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
This is a disaster for the that IS the Mets.
fixed :)
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in baseball. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
The next disaster for the Mets will be when they fire their team doctor
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by Mondogarage on Jan 14, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
This would actually be a good thing for them
since that doctor is the one who screwed up this injury last year.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
any chance they could withhold money from Beltran
since he did this outside of team instructions? Isn’t that a breach of contract?
Attention Whore.
Not a chance, the MLBPA would arbitrate that and win in a heartbeat
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ESPN says
that his contract only requires advanced written permission from the team for elective surgery, and according to Boras, this was medically necessary surgery, so no permission required.
I can smell spring
I feel icky agreeing with Boras on anything
but he & Beltran are clearly in the right from everything I’ve read so far. The Mets have done a hell of a job of exacerbating injury issues with their players.
Don't think of it as agreeing with Boras as much as disagreeing with the Mets :-)
As you pointed out, they have done an awful job with all of their injury situations.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions
Not going to happen until...
he screws up one too many times with Reyes and he never returns to form.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
So by the end of this season?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
probably, if not the all star break
i could see the mets getting off to an awful first half and then cleaning house in management (again)
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
Yeah but the Mets usually get off to a decent start because they have to lure their fans into the trap
If they are terrible from the get go then the fans won’t care and they will be spared the late season heartbreak. (The Mets will not allow this) Even last year they were 27-20 around the start of June.
Write it down!!!! The Mets will make it as painful as possible for their fans. :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 15, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Plaigirism!
Write it down!!!! The Mets will make it as painful as possible for their fans. :-)
I’m pretty sure that’s engraved on the holy grail or Empire State Building or something.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
Nah
The Empire State Building was there before the Mets ever existed. I STOLE IT FROM A MESSAGE I SAW CARVED INTO THE FOUNDATION OF THE METS NEW STADIUM. :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 16, 2010 2:00 AM MST up reply actions
lol francesa going off
as usual
TULO = 2010 MVP!
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 14, 2010 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
Hey, would it be appropriate for me to brag here about how I called this two months ago?
Yeah, probably not, but I will anyway.
Good call RoxGirl
Now where are you hiding that crystal ball? :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:07 PM MST up reply actions
She just needs to tell us who will win the series
So we can make a bet in Vegas and profit!
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 14, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
You weren't around for her projection bets with AZSnakepit as a lurker even, I see
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Were these before the start of last season?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah that was before my time
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
What did you say?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
For the 2007 season, I bet that Rodrigo Lopez would have a higher VORP than Livan Hernandez
For 2008, that the Rockies would win the season series.
Both bets made plenty of sense at the time, but you lost big time on both
You were undone by some crazy voodoo there. Rodrigo’s injury and that spell that makes one NL West team unbeatable.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions
Have we already decided that the Pads are that team this year?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
It kinda would be their turn which has me kinda nervous
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
Ouch
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
Had a hotdog for lunch yesterday. Hebrew National!
Heaven on earth.
Bored. Lazy. Crazy. Screaming. Counting. Another day in the life of a Rockaholic.
MariaM give you a craving?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
Yes! Plus I haven't had one for awile.
Bored. Lazy. Crazy. Screaming. Counting. Another day in the life of a Rockaholic.
by prettyinpurple on Jan 14, 2010 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
ohhhhh ...ZING!
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in baseball. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Those of us in Denver ought to get together for dogs and Crackjack
on Feb. 18 to mark the opening of camp.
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I'm up for....getting together
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
I knew there was something about that treat...
strangely addicting!
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Just a one year contract for Barmes.
Thank god.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
Oh yes.
The talk about a multi-year contract for him earlier this off season had me worried. Good show.
actually, I think I need to clarify something here,
My opinion is that Barmes still may be the team’s most likely starter in 2011, but if anybody in the org. was to challenge next year it would most likely be Nelson.
I think if anything he's on pace for challenging for a starting job in 2012.
Last I heard, he still had gaps in his swing and some other issues to work out and has pretty much been a station to station advancer in the system thus far. Unless he’s shown some sign of breaking out that I’m unaware of, I don’t think he’s a big threat to see MLB time this upcoming season, and therefore unlikely to be in the conversation for a starting position on a contending team in 2011. I think this is part of the reason why the Rockies had it in their organizational mind that they’d liked to have gone two years with Barmes and then let Nelson and Gomez duke it out for the job in 2012. I’m just reading into it, but this is why I think Barmes is still probably the favorite to have the 2011 starting job.
maybe I should stop asking these questions
but I thought Gomez was a more advanced prospect than Nelson? Why would you consider Nelson a favorite to take over at 2B right now, based on his familiarity with the position?
Attention Whore.
I think Gomez is seen as the prospect with higher capabilities...
… but he’s not closer to MLB ready than Nelson.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
Nelson's a more advanced prospect,
He’s been a step on the ladder ahead of Gomez throughout their careers. I think what I was trying to say in that original comment is that if the Rockies were to look for a different starter at second in 2011, something at this point I see as a little doubtful unless Barmes really struggles on both sides of the ball in 2010, than it would most likely be Nelson rather than Gomez. I do think Nelson’s a bit underrated as a prospect at this point, and I expect him to have a solid year at Colorado Springs, solid enough that he should get a September cup of coffee.
I should have added EY2 as a possibility for starting at second, both in 2011 and 2012, he’s got the lowest talent ceiling of the three but the strongest work ethic, which makes him very similar to the second baseman we currently have.
It's time to think about the future at 2B
and a long term contract to Barmes would have made it tougher to find out who it is. I like Gomez as the future 2B from the limited amount I’ve seen.
defense, and just a general "he doesn't project to be more than a bench player" kind of stigma
anything he gains will come from absurdly hard work. Which doesn’t preclude him from starting at 2B.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 14, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
He could be a darkhorse candidate
and I wouldn’t rule out some starting time if he breaks out and Gomez/Nelson aren’t ready yet. Right now he’s fairly weak on offense, defense (at 2B) but with big wheels. I can’t see him starting long-term at 2B over Gomez/Nelson with those tools.
I can see all sorts of options over the next 1-3 years though, so it’s really up to the young guys to develop.
We're also still in on Jose Contreras.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
Only four more arbitration eligible players to sign.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
Correct.
I’d forgotten Betancourt as well.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
Josh Johnson just agreed to a 4 yr 39 mil extension
with the Fish
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And Eric Byrnes might be released from the Diamondbacks.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
not surprising
Good job byrnes. Both of you
I find it funny my phone’s predictive word for byrnes is “byebra”
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 14, 2010 6:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Arizona may release Byrnes:
A source told Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic that the Diamondbacks are “leaning toward” releasing outfielder Eric Byrnes.
A spot on the D’Backs’ 40-man roster needs to be cleared for first baseman Adam LaRoche, who signed a one-year deal Thursday afternoon. Byrnes hit just .226 with a .270 on-base percentage last season and is entering the final season of a three-year, $30 million contract. Most of his struggles can be related to fluke injuries but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s no longer an adequate everyday outfielder.
hahahahahaha
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 14, 2010 6:52 PM MST reply actions
darn you
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 14, 2010 6:55 PM MST up reply actions
at least mine had a link
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 14, 2010 6:55 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah.
I generally don’t post links, as everyone knows where to find bits of news like this already, generally, but this is true. I just completed a little experiment with the most expensive players on each team. With Byrnes gone, I’ll have to find a new Diamondback.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 6:59 PM MST up reply actions
While they still have to pay him so he is still technically the most expensive player right?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
The payroll may be redistributed when another team signs him.
They’ll have to pay at least the league minimum themselves. Sometimes, crazy scenarios go into effect that make it even more.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 7:07 PM MST up reply actions
But regardless, he won't be on their team, so he won't be their highest paid PLAYER, just their highest paid commitment.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 14, 2010 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
See to me it wouldn't matter
If a player was the highest financial commitment I’d list them. The team still has to pay the player and the whole point of the list was to see how well or how poorly teams were using their money to give out big contracts right?
"Candlestick was built on the water. It should have been built under it." Roger Maris
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 14, 2010 11:54 PM MST up reply actions
Part of the thing I was calculating involved player performance.
I basically need to use the highest paid player performing on their team.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 15, 2010 12:12 AM MST up reply actions
What were you making the list for?
"Candlestick was built on the water. It should have been built under it." Roger Maris
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 15, 2010 12:27 AM MST up reply actions
Great article and comparison
Looks like the Rockies are doing a great job of bargain shopping after Christmas! Also, Tatis’ only year playing full time he actually had very good stats…he just hasn’t had the same opportunities as DeRosa.
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