Report: Rockies agree to multi-year deals with Huston Street, Rafael Betancourt
by Russ Oates on Jan 19, 2010 10:35 AM MST
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PrintTracy Ringolsby reports that the Rockies have agreed to multi-year deals with closer Huston Street and reliever Rafael Betancourt.
Street agreed to a 3-year deal worth $22.5M with an option year on a 4th year.
Betancourt agreed to 2 years, 7.55M.
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"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Actually
they Betancourt deal doesn’t seem too bad. The Street one still seems pricey for a mid-market team reliever. Street would essentially have to duplicate his 2009 season for every year of the contract for the Rockies to break even with it.
What’s most curious is that we locked both of these guys up for the next two seasons. You’d think with Corpas, Morales, Buchholz, Weathers, and Brothers, the need to lock up any of them past 2010 let alone both of them would be severely reduced.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Think of it this way
hopefully, we won’t have to see any more Morales 9th Inning Heartbreaks
Attention Whore.
I'm not unsympathetic to your position
but I’m not about to start counting on these other relievers to play high-leverage roles going forward. Its entirely possible that NONE of those guys will be late-inning caliber pros. (Buckholz aguably already was but considering the nature of his injury he’s a question to me).
agreed
I understand the fungibility of relievers, in the sense that a drop off from Street to say Matt Daley would be noticeable, but not season-crushing, and there’s a whole lot of money saved there.
I just don’t want to deal with another Shawn Chacon/Bad Fuentes season. Street’s just about the best we’ve had at the back end.
Here’s to hoping he’s healthy.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
I think health is biggest thing
Street seems like he could be a real injury prone player
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
When you're riding right on the margin between success and non-success, like the Rox are
The difference between Daley (who I love btw) and Street could be getting to the playoffs vs not. I subscribe to the “this is our time” argument more and more, I think. I’m happy with the signings.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
What..
you don’t like democratic closers?
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I don't like democrats (I'm a centrist libertarian) or closers (well, to a point; I think the importance of a closer is overstated)...
… but I definitely don’t like Matt Daley as closer.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 11:07 PM MST up reply actions
I disagree with your stance on the importance of closers..
a good closer makes the game shorter, causing batters to press earlier in the game. When a batter is pressing, he becomes less productive. So the closer doesn’t just affect the 9th inning, he affects innings 6-9.
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I never said a closer is useless, or that having somebody with bite to nail down the game isn't useful.
I simply believe that the STATUS of the closer in regards to their importance of the game as perceived by most people (especially the existence of the Saves stat) is generally over-glorified.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 20, 2010 1:03 AM MST up reply actions
I'm kind if in the middle on this one
I think closers are extremly overrated during the regular season but I also think that having a good closer is a necessity in the postseaon. Just look at every postseason series last season. The team that lost had their closer blow at least one game in all seven of them. (Lidge in World Series game 4 did not count as a blown save but he clearly lost the game with that performance) The idea of closers getting paid so much seems so wasteful to me during the regular season. It’s like “oh good job. You got the last three outs with a multirun lead with the Reds 6-7-8 coming up. You deserve all kinds of credit for closing down a game we were probably going to win 95% of the time anyway.” But once you’re in the postseason with a slim lead in the 9th inning, you start to think that there’s nobody more valuable then your closer. I’m torn here.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 20, 2010 8:48 AM MST up reply actions
a centrist libertarian? That's a contradiction in terms.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Not really, if you use traditional political spectra.
Libertarianism doesn’t exist on the left/right scale as such, hence, why there are such things as both left libertarians and right libertarians. I identify as a centrist libertarian, as on the left/right scale, my views are centrist. It is only on the authoritarian/libertarian scale that I lean towards a side.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 20, 2010 1:18 AM MST up reply actions
based on?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 11:39 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
him losing his job
due to poor performance coming back from injury in Oakland is my guess.
Attention Whore.
Sort of
I just don’t like it that he has been on the DL in two of the last three seasons with an arm injury. Could be nothing to worry about but it’s still a concern of mine.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Just seems like
one or the other could have been sufficient. But at the end of the day it’s not really a bad think when youre team locks down its bullpen for the next couple of seasons…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Whoa, didn't expect this news today.
Love them both but I’m not sure I like the Street deal. There’s quite a bit of money tied into the 8th & 9th for the next couple years.
Anyone know off-hand how the deals will affect payroll in 2010?
Both will be making less than they would have in arbitration.
I think that’s about all we can ask for.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
I like the Betty deal especially
As for Street, i think it’s suprising to me he signed. I envisioned him testing the market next year but I’m happy to see he’s commited. All I can do now is hope he continues to produce and stray away from declining.
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I would guess he saw the market this year
and saw that none of the closers really got more than 7mil/yr and none of them got more than 1-2 year deal. Considering that it’s a great deal for him. A great deal for the team too if he stays healthy and effective.
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Yeah, I can't really call them bad deals
Betancourt’s deal I’m fine with, pretty decent actually.
I just get uneasy with giving a closer a multi year deal like this. Plus side is that Street is still very young for a proven closer, so I wouldn’t expect major drop offs. I do prefer Street closing the next few years to anyone currently in the organization. Time will tell on the deal.
Betancourt
signed for less than I thought, and significantly less than Jabbs thought. Good for the Rox. Glad to see a solid bullpen.
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I completely agree with this
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Me too
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by rockieprogress on Jan 20, 2010 12:26 AM MST up reply actions
I think the key is if not Street to close, then who? We've got to take some of these chances I suppose.
And based on Street’s past performance and age, I’d say it is a reasonable gamble.
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by pedalpusher on Jan 19, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
I think what we are seeing here
is that DOD is going for the window we have currently open. The Dodgers are going to have their struggles, the Padres are weak, the Giants impotent, Dbacks inconsistent…
It appears he has received permission to open the pocketbook for the next couple of years and maintain a highly competitive team while the young players are hitting their prime.
That’s my read on the situation at least. Prepare to root for a mid-market team (from a budget standpoint)
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I like this take on it.
I agree that the stars have aligned somewhat for the organization and the team can be competitive over the next few years. There’s no time like the present.
But here's the key; and it could be very good news for Rockies fans
If the Rockies popularity can skyrocket during this window of opportunity and the team can make a few playoff runs, there is an outside chance that the window might not close for a long, long time. Suppose Denver falls in love with this team and attendance makes a run at where it was in the 90’s (I know it won’t get THAT high but it should at least head in that diraction). We already have a young franchise player in Tulo and a young franchise pitcher in Ubaldo. If the organization makes more money due to increased popularity both of those players could spend their entire careers in Rockies uniforms. If that is the caase the Rockies will have the hard part of the equation figured out for the next 10-12 years. The Two hardest things to find when building a baseball team are the franchise player and the ACE pitcher and the Rockies already have both.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
The Phillies underwent a similar transformation a few years ago
and now they sell out every game beyond stadium capacity….
It could happen here, why not?
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Why not us!
Denver is not Philly, I’d be shocked to see the rox near that popularity level. I agree with the general thought, especially since the team can be a regional draw. A few years of winning can do wonders for a fan base.
Is Philly more of a Phillies town or a Eagles town?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
I'm guessing Eagles
But I don’t know for sure.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
the point is that if the Phillies aren't the first team, suchas in Boston or NY
and the Phillies are doing well, I don’t see why Colorado can’t. Denver supports its winning teams, they’ll support this one IMO.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed
Denver is a pretty good sports city.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
Denver is the most under-rated Sports town in the country
People spend too much time obesessing with teams they know (Cowboys, Lakers, Bulls, Cubs, Stars, etc…) then educating themselves they don’t know yet and never will because they’re not from the market they tunnel-vision on.
Living in the same neighborhood as Utah and Nebraska only hurts our case. It was like that Robin Williams stand up that was brought up some weeks ago; “Canada is like an apartment above a really great party” Now use that here and you see what’s going on with Colorado and it’s surrounding states.
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I remember Sports Illustrated
Naming Denver the best sports town (or best fans) in the country some years back. People know that Denver has some knowledgeable fans.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
I thought it was Sporting News
and yeah i do remember something of that nature, I think with SN they won it back to back years (around the super bowls i believe) but as of the last few years i remember they were in the low-teens, behind places like Phoenix (with except the Suns or their WNBA team (only because we don’t have one) maybe, there is no way they draw more of a crowd for any sport then Denver does with football, baseball or hockey).
Honestly, if you don’t mention either altitutde or John Elway, most “mainstream (most ESPN viewers)” sports fans won’t know what you’re going at.
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I think one thing that hurts Denver
in the national media is that the city has a shorter sports history than some of the big market teams (other than the Broncos). I can tell you that people around here know a little about the Broncos but know next to nothing about the other three teams (Rockies, Nuggets, and Avalance).
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Broncos are always #1
and then #2 is whatever the most successful team in the state is. Right now i would say aside from the trainwreck that is the Broncos, the Nuggets are the most hyped. In the early 00’s and late 90’s I would definetly say the Avs were there and in the mid 90’s it was the Rockies.
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Another thing is we're in a time zone that the world doesn't pay attention to...
…“Tonight at 8:00 Eastern, 7:00 Central and Pacific”. It’s as if the Mountain Time Zone doesn’t even exist.
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by pedalpusher on Jan 19, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
My wife didn't believe me that there was a Mountian Time Zone
I still give her grief for it.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
I had a prof. in college...
who said we would someday go to two time zones for the continental US. I’ve not heard anything else about this since but it seems like such a great idea. There is only one time zone for all of India.
India is much, much smaller that the continental U.S
I think three time zones might be possible but two is probably stretching it too far.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
But almost all of China's population is on the very
far east side of the country. So almost everybody feels like it’s the normal time. Our population is spread out coast to coast. Check out this totally awesome world at night map to see what I’m talking about. Also Europe still has three time zones even though a lot of it is covered by one. They are also farther north where the idea of time zones matters less because of the more dramatic shifts in sunlight time.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:11 PM MST up reply actions
Oops the maps linked to sad face
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 PM MST up reply actions
funny
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:14 PM MST up reply actions
Or it just proves the whole world is sad at night.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:15 PM MST up reply actions
So very true
My theory is that it takes roughly 25-30 years to establish a sports “tradition” in a city. Both the Avs and Rox are past the midpoint, and have a good foundation to build on (2 cups and a WS appearance), and at this point they just need to field competitive teams to solidify their place.
Once you can get to the point where people like us will be able to tell our kids “I remember back in 07 when Holliday slid into home launching us into the playoffs”, that’s when the tradition is set :-)
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
Yep
The foundation has been put down. Now we just have to build on it.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
look at the nuggets
Before they were in the playoffs on a regular basis…no one would go to games…but now they get really good attendance numbers….we support our teams when they do well….
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
ok the Nuggets aren't the best example
when the Rockies weren’t good I still went. but the Nuggets were never just “not good”, they were freakin awful, like we had the Pittsburgh Pirates of the NBA.
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It's not bad..
when it brings us Carmello.
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However
a loser is a loser….yes the Nuggets were horrible…but look what they have been able to do with their turnaround and people going to games. If they can do it…so can the Rockies with some good seasons getting into the playoffs on a regular basis.
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I totally believe in the Rockies, regardless of Nuggets history
i only wanted to point out just how bad they were, I remember the year before they got Melo, they were shut out in OT in of their games, thats an entire quarter without one point.
I love the Nuggets and love their success, but I have to say they got LUCKY. If Detroit hadn’t drafted Darko ahead of Melo, the Nuggets would have taken him and would have continued their streak of atrociouity.
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still embarrassing
for an NBA team to be shut out.
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Your point stands.
They were terrible. It was about the time I moved to Denver, you could go down and get 8 rows back near mid-court from a scalper for 20$. Back in the days of Nick Van Exel and Raef. We would yell at Bzdelik to put in Tskita, he looked so sad on the bench.
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That was the season
that I vowed never to root for the Nuggets ever again
and I still won’t.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
I don't blame you
I gotta say though, if they had won the first overall pick and drafted Lebron, a lot of people would have broken their vowes to never support the team again. we were so close to getting the grand pize (lebron) and yet even closer to getting less then nothing (darko) so i’d say ending up with an all-star conerstone in Melo worked out for them at least.
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well, the strike killed the NBA and basketball for me
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
the refs strike?
because i would have chosen their gambeling addictions as my first problem with the nba and its refs
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no, that ruined hockey for me too
difference is I’ll still watch hockey, but the NBA is just jungleball anymore
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
I thought about going to Avs last night
went ice skating instead, looked like a fun game though.
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Jungleball?
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I just meant disorganized
who’s racist now
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
I'd be careful with that
no matter what you meant. At any rate, i disagree, the issue with the nba is lack of effort, not organization.
I'd argue the lack of effort leads to the lack of organization
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 5:09 PM MST up reply actions
No hustle, either, Skip.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 5:28 PM MST up reply actions
yeah really?
I hate watching the Birdman bouncing around all just doin whatever he wants
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM MST up reply actions
david
thompson
an andersen fan?
what are the chances?
statistically?
by holidayelsie on Jan 19, 2010 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
i still don't go to their games
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:19 PM MST up reply actions
Now it's more Phillies
They are nuts about both but I’d say the Phils past them a couple of years ago.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah but that because the Eagles were in the NFC championship game
like every single year, the Phils were not good, and they played in that garbage dump know as Veteren’s Stadium.
Agree Ebbs and flows but i think its the Phils twon for a while.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Not sure if the Phils have taken that town
I have a few friends from Philly, and they insist that the Eagles are still their team… but the Phils have definitely passed the Flyers and Sixers making it a two horse race.
3 out of 4 sounds so much better than 2 out of 3...
by realmenwearpurple on Jan 19, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
maybe your friends are bug football fans (Or maybe mine are baseball fans)
I don’t live there but I’ve heard from some people that the Phils have passed the Eagles.
Interesting though
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
bug big
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
just like the Avs were the biggest ticket in town 1999-2002
and now they can’t even sell out their own building when they’ve led their division essentially the entire season.
The Phils own Philly right now because they have a potential Juggernaut of a team AND a new stadium. The Eagles owned them for the first half of the decade because of their success.
These come in waves, and the recent Broncos history is loosening their reins on the town. There is still a long way to go before this is a Rockies town, though…
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I'm sure the economy has something to do with it but I've always wondered about
the AVS ticket pricing model. I realize that the lions share of their revenue comes from ticket sales but seems they could improve revenue by having a lower price point.
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by pedalpusher on Jan 19, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
recently they have started a $20 ticket night promotion
you can buy tickets at the Pepsi Center for $20. All of those games have completely sold out.
Hockey is different in that they don’t have a lucrative TV contract and the majority of their income is based on ticket sales, thus the higher prices.
I know I can’t afford to go to Avs games unless I purchase a discounted ticket package, and I think the Front Office is finding that out as well
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What a game last night eh?
I know edmonton sucks but a 6-0 ROUTE! sure feels good every once in a while.
by BringItHome on Jan 19, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
don't forget the Calgary Flame-out
I don’t even know how a professional hockey team can lose 9-1. Embarassing, and it feels so good!
Attention Whore.
They are 50-50. One played football, one baseball.
Both try not to miss any games for either team, but if they had to choose one to do well, they both would pull for the Eagles.
3 out of 4 sounds so much better than 2 out of 3...
by realmenwearpurple on Jan 19, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
Screw PHI
Denver is not Philly
Damn straight, we don’t boo Santa or cheer when an NFL receiver (Michael Irvin) on an opposing team practically breaks his neck in front of us. Denver has that whole discretion as being viewed as rutheless where as Philly fans, well that just doesn’t stop them
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have you ever been to a mammoth game? those people boo everything
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
hey now
that’s because those fans are CLASSLESS
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
oh absolutely
it’s dirty, loud, redneck fun. I’m not buying season tix or anything, but I definitely enjoyed my time
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the product on the field is worth buying season tix
the fans around you are awful and make it completely NOT worth buying season tix
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
I haven't
Something about lacross players being baseball players who are afraid of the ball always prevented me from going to Mammoth games. That and then general lack of interest in hockey on grass
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even with zero knowledge of the sport
I had a lot of fun. Hard to beat the amount of entertainment those $5 can give you
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That's gotta be the best deal in sports.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
it is
I love the Rockpile, but for those who have never attended a Mammoth game, those $5 are the best deal in town (Rockies Offseason Qualifier)
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a-greed
I just hate the fans
“guy from other team may have broken his neck!”
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy
“guy gets up”
booooooooooo
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
it is
http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-ticketprices.html
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
uhhhhh for starters, all baseball players are afraid of the ball
read “Is this a great game or what?” by Tim Kurkjian
secondly, have you ever seen lacrosse played? it’s a pretty intense sport, but yeah, it’s hockey on grass/astro
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:21 PM MST up reply actions
that's just an old joke i like to quote whenever lacross is brought up
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
lacrosse
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
He he
During the NLDS, there were many links going around, and one was to a blog that I can’t remember the name, but the tagline was “Philadelphia Sports: More than just booing.”
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
Especially with how badly the Broncos have done in recent years
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rockies start to leach a few fans from them.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
If we consider the market size of the Broncos
who in the top ten in the NFL it’s easy to start to believe that the Rockies can come near that. We’re still a relatively young franchise who has never won a championship or even put together multiple winning seasons. It could happen.
by BringItHome on Jan 19, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
Rox could definitely draw that many fans
When they first moved to Denver, the Rox set all sorts of attendance records (albeit with the benefit of 75,000 seat Mile High) and when they built Coors, they added the entire upper right field section to the blueprints because of the demand they faced.
And then we hit the bad times in the early 2000s, and attendance slipped. But as RMN said, Colorado supports its winning teams. If the Rox can compete from the beginning of this season, I bet we’d be well on our way to selling out Coors consistently again.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
my favorite thing in the world is being in a sold out Coors Field
Attention Whore.
by Muzia on Jan 19, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Coors looks so impressive when it's full
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
my first time
was the playoffs this year…that tulo chant is freaking awesome with all those people there!
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
Honestly, I've grown to love a less than full Coors Field.
A little room to stretch out, options if rude drunks are behind my daughters, and no lines at the bathrooms.
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Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 19, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree 100%...
While post-season games are, of course, terrific, the vibe around the park is totally different, just as it is when Cubs, Red Sox, Yanks, etc come to town. I’ll take a crowd of 32K any day (or night) to a full house for the ambiance and accessibility.
by moose14 on Jan 19, 2010 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Some of my favorite non-post season games
have been evening games during poor seasons. Especially with visting family/friends because you’re able to get some very very nice seats late in the game as it clears out. It’s kind of a cool atmosphere.
For the sake of the Rockies I hope they keep packing the seats while avoiding a Cubs/Red Sox horrible party atmosphere.
aaaaa greed
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
I enjoy this as well
but the playoff atmosphere in September and October is so electric, you can feel it. That’s what I love about the place.
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I felt it a lot more in 2007 than 2009
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
I think 2009
was hurt by the cold weather – the stadium wasn’t even full. 2007 they were on that magical run – that’s gonna be tough to replicate.
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
The cold weather was brutal
It was hard to stand and cheer. Basically we’d stand, clap a little for a nice play, then tuck back in under the blankets and keep our toes from falling off.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
This year
the Monday playoff game was “warm”, or so that is what my dad and I thought. We never put our jackets on and we were standing and cheering every time we could (we didn’t want to get in the way of those behind us) and between innings.
JFK
well the night before it was 15 degrees out
i was suffieciently layered but my toes were pretty frozen by the end of the game
Yeah, but you could tell some were wearing mittens.
The claps were not that loud.
Bored. Lazy. Crazy. Screaming. Counting. Another day in the life of a Rockaholic.
by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
Just the excitement of 50,000 people who want to be nowhere else but at the ballpark
not just playoff games, I’m talking the big regular season series against the Dbacks in 2007, the Cards and Giants in 2009, etc..
Attention Whore.
That and they lost both games in 2009
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
We were playing with house money in 07 and we knew it. There was a little more tension in 2009, which I kind of liked, but 07 was just this total delirium, three hours of “Is this real?”
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Love any game at Coors!
Thanks for a great season of Baseball!
I'll be back next year for another ride.
by TripleT-Rox on Jan 19, 2010 10:39 PM MST up reply actions
I miss the games at Mile High.
GOOOO!!!!
ROCKKKKKKKKKIIIEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!
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Even though the Rockies have had two playoff runs in the last three years, both attendance figures were killed early in the season by low expectations coupled with VERY slow starts by the team. The 2.65 million or so that the Rox drew last season is not an accurate reprisentation of how much fans will support this team if it wins. If the Rockies play well all year this season I think 3 million is a possibility for attendance.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
They would have to average just over 37,000 a game to get to the magic 3 million number
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
Yup
The slow start last year killed any enthusiasm borderline fans may have had
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
If you look at attendance figures from last year there is a clear difference in the numbers
from the first 31 home games to the last 50 home games.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
This was the basis of my conversation with Dick Monfort about 5 years ago
He had this view that the Denver market was small and would never compete. I told him…“look at the Broncos”.
The Broncos have fanatical fans in Wyoming, Western Kansas, Western Nebraska, Utah, Arizona (I think there’s more Broncos fans in AZ than Cards fans) New Mexico and Nevada. Almost the entire Rocky Mountain region has some element of Broncos fandom.
Given time, the Rox will be able to reach these fans. Consistent winning breeds consistent and wider fan base.
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As far as the National Media
essentially if you arent on the coasts they ignore you….so forget em. ESPN is so ignorant about the Rockies it’s comical. Almost worth ignoring the network entirely.
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The Rockies have gained A LOT of ground in the national media.
ESPN is not nearly as ignorant as they once were. Living outside of Colorado (and not having had Extra Innings of the MLB Network) ESPN has been the only place I could find highlights, and for years chances of even reporting the score were slim, unless they happened to be playing against a contender in an important game. But in the last 2-3 years, that has improved drastically. Granted, winning helps, but it also helps having players like Tulo and Ubaldo. We’re not just Todd Helton anymore.
I think you just hit on a great tagline for the Rockies
“We’re not just Todd Helton anymore.”
I love this
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
Should make this the tagline for the site
Now that the secret is out
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
agreed
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
THIS!!!
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
THIS!!!
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Oop a 3 minute double post
That beats PF’s earlier 2 minute one.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 5:20 PM MST up reply actions
whoa....I didn't know...wtf? arghhhhhh
sorry :(
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Don't apologize to me
It’s the players you’ve ruined it for.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 5:22 PM MST up reply actions
sorry I don't understand?
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
It's a line from an old computer game
20,000 Points to anyone who can guess it.
Anyway, just giving you a hard time. I really don’t care when you double post.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
That is refreshing to hear
It doesn’t change my opinion that more often national media coverage on Rockies’ games will focus more on what the other team did to lose the game (esecially when it comes to the cubs/mets/dodgers/phillies/cardinals etc…) then what the Rockies did to win the game and its super weak to watch.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
South Dakota as well
tends to be Avs and Broncos fans
by BringItHome on Jan 19, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
And apparently South Dakota loves the Rox
My brother is going to college up there and my dad wore his Rockies sweatshirt while moving him into the dorms. I guess a bunch of people walking by would yell stuff like “Go Rockies!” and “Hey, another Rockies fan, awesome!”
Pretty cool actually.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
I would have thought they would be Twins fans in South Dakota
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There are a good bunch of those there.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
South Dakota fans like..
Matt Daley.
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Denver is not Philly...
Thank goodness!
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
Coors has the third largest seating capacity in all of baseball
behind only the Dodgers and the Yankees. 50,000 and change is a lot of seats to sell.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't realize that
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
It's interesting
Many of the new stadiums are actually being built with fewer seats. (Yankee Stadium being the exception) The Twins Target field which opens this year only holds 40,000, the Mets new park only holds 41,800, and the Marlins new park opening in 2012 (which looks pretty awesome actually) will only seat 37,000.
Teams are starting to value quality over quantity when it comes to seats in these new parks.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Even the new Yankee Stadium
has much fewer seats than the old one, despite the fact that it is still one of the biggest out there.
3 out of 4 sounds so much better than 2 out of 3...
by realmenwearpurple on Jan 19, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
Only about 3,000 fewer
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
I guess that is still fewer seats though in response to my original statement
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
The new Yankee Stadium has 3000 fewer seats?
What will they do for money?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
Charge people $2,500 to sit in them.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
Ah you beat me apparently.
Yours didnt pop up until after I clicked post though…
3 out of 4 sounds so much better than 2 out of 3...
by realmenwearpurple on Jan 19, 2010 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah I hate when this happens
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
+1
Thanks for a great season of Baseball!
I'll be back next year for another ride.
by TripleT-Rox on Jan 19, 2010 10:42 PM MST up reply actions
I believe they charged 2500
for the box seats. That will get you a fair chunk of change.
3 out of 4 sounds so much better than 2 out of 3...
by realmenwearpurple on Jan 19, 2010 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
See this just shows an erosion of fan base..
when the team has to build a smaller new stadium.
Red Sox fans laugh at me when I tell them the Rockies have averaged nearly identical attendance over the past 10 years. Maybe they should build a bigger stadium if they think they have a “nation” of fans.
/whatever
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What really funny is that the Rockies consistantly outdrew the Yankees in the 90's when they were winning all those World Sreies
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 20, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions
The other hurdle
Is maintaining a good farm system so that when your franchise pitcher and franchise player start to get unproductive, you have young players to replace them. That’s tough to do consistently over the years with low draft picks and not trading valuable veterans for blue-chip prospects.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
Great Point
There is potential for a large market here and it is growing with the last two post season appearances. If DOD can put together a winning atmosphere around here our budget can continue to expand so we won’t be on the low-mid market limit so much anymore.
by BringItHome on Jan 19, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
Great Take
Unfortunatly we do live in the Boras era, so the system we live in with agents and players makes it virtually impossible to keep a player on one team from the start of his career through his peak years. Colorado has certainly made a good case though for being an organization with direction and a bright future that makes it more appealing to stick around.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.
Great point..
and it shows why a player like Huston Street would want to sign a multi-year contract to stay in Colorado.
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Budgets
are controlled by TV money.
The Yankees have the YES network. They get an incredible amount of ad money from it, and the Rox will never be able to compete with a financial juggernaut like that.
Look what has happened to the Braves since Ted Turner split TBS from them. They’re like everyone else now.
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Jan 20, 2010 12:46 AM MST up reply actions
I think our payroll now will end up right around 80 million dollars if we don't make any major signings (Assuming the Street deal is about 7 million this year. (I have not seen the year to year break down of the contract yet)
I thought it might a few million higher than that but I think this puts us in good shape.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
If anything, it would be lower
Contracts are usually back-loaded.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
I meant Street's contract for this year
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
It probably is, but not by multimillions.
I find it hard to believe Street would sign a contract where he makes less than $6 million this year. But we’ll find out soon.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I know
I kind of misread RIRF’s comment as “Street’s contract might be higher this year than future years”.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
It'll be higher.
It’s already at $75, and we have more than $5 million in our team control player salaries, plus Hammel.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
How do you figure
Our team controlled players are only getting 400K right? There’s what, seven or eight of them (which comes out to about 3 million for those players) and then about another two million for Hammel right?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Seven?
We have twenty.
- Al Alburquerque
- Jhoulys Chacin
- Matt Daley
- Samuel Deduno
- Edgmer Escalona
- Dexter Fowler
- Hector Gomez
- Carlos Gonzalez
- Shane Lindsay
- Michael McKenry
- Franklin Morales
- Chris Nelson
- Juan Nicasio
- Greg Reynolds
- Chaz Roe
- Esmil Rogers
- Greg Smith
- Seth Smith
- Ian Stewart
- Eric Young Jr.
Every player on the 40-man roster makes at least $400,000, even when on optional assignment in the minors. Only minor leaguers without major league contracts don’t get figured in there.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
OK that's where I screwed up
I wasn’t counting the players who will be in the minors.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
Uhh..not many of those players will be in the minors..
- Al Alburquerque
- Jhoulys Chacin Midseason Callup
- Matt Daley Majors
- Samuel Deduno Midseason Callup
- Edgmer Escalona
- Dexter Fowler Majors
- Hector Gomez
- Carlos Gonzalez Majors
- Shane Lindsay
- Michael McKenry Midseason Callup
- Franklin Morales Majors
- Chris Nelson
- Juan Nicasio
- Greg Reynolds
- Chaz Roe
- Esmil Rogers Midseason Callup
- Greg Smith Midseason Callup
- Seth Smith Majors
- Ian Stewart Majors
- Eric Young Jr. Majors
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They'll all have essentially the same payroll, regardless.
Separated by no more than about $50,000. Plus, RIRF was already counting the seven you listed as “majors”. As for your “midseason callup”, we obviously won’t know for sure who egts what until it unfolds.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 20, 2010 12:11 AM MST up reply actions
As for your "midseason callup", we obviously won’t know for sure who egts what until it unfolds.
Actually I get to choose. I use the red phone that rings right to Tracy’s office.
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I'm secretly Jim Tracy, so I look forward to hearing your suggestions. :D
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 20, 2010 1:04 AM MST up reply actions
WHY DON'T YOU LIKE CDI?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 20, 2010 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
All things considered,
paying ~$11M to shut down your opponent for the final two innings is not bad, not bad at all. I’m with Muzia that I’d be surprised to see Street still in a Rockies uniform in August 2012, but one can dream, right?
by Foxhole Atheist on Jan 19, 2010 10:54 AM MST reply actions
There is a fanfest this weekend?
Does anybody have more info?
January 24th
It’s for the first group of season ticket holders that already registered for it (couple thousand I think).
nothing for us commoners
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Boo.
Will there be some sort of event for the rest of us?
Can you get to Tuscon and have about $5k to spare?
There’s fantasy camp! ;)
I’m not aware of anything other than the fan days during the season like that. I would be nice if they organized a more open fan outreach. More fans means more time commitment though so I can understand why they might not.
Someday..
I will talk my wife into spending out tax refund on this.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
The Rowbot BBQ 2: Tokyo Drift
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The Rowbot BBBQ 2: The Quickening
This time, with more chairs.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
and certificates :-P
(I still have mine)
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
you guys got certificates!?
Why oh why did I have to go to some stupid wedding that day
Attention Whore.
and cheese balls
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
I am going
Taking my 7-year old. I’ll try to give a report.
I really like this deal
I know there are concerns about the $$ going to street but he was lights out most of the year. If he can do that again this and even improve, remember he’s only 26, he will be worth every penny. The Betty deal is outstanding!! This may be the best set up and close combo we’ve ever had. Combine with a rotation that can go deep into games and we are looking very good!
I love both deals.
We got RafBet cheap and Street signed without going into arbitration. Good job DOD.
Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 19, 2010 11:30 AM MST reply actions
Street got almost exactly what Valverde got
from the Tigers ($7.5 mil per year), but with an extra year. (I wonder if there’s either some back-loading in the deal or there’s a buyout option. 3 years is long for a reliever.)
I think that’s reasonable. I’d rather have Street than Valverde, so I think the team is paying at or below market.
I was suprised, and pleased, by the Betancourt signing, too. Neither Buchholz or
Corpas are sure things to come back at this point, so locking up a proven 8th-inning
guy is a good step.
Congrats to the Rockies’ front office for both signings. They’re shoing some real commitment to puttting a championship-contending team on the field. Now I hope the fans respond with increased attendance this year,
I don’t live in Colo. yet, but plan to be there part of the summer & will try to take in a couple of Rockies games while I’m there.
New decade, new result: time for a Rockies' division championship.
my 2 cents is that DOD is doing a fantastic job. I remember when he first came on board and nobody and I mean nobody thought he was a very good GM
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Maybe he's the Sandy Koufax of GM's :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
well, if that's the case, he'll end up in the HOF and be one of the GOAT
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by pedalpusher on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
I'm not worried about the money
it just means there’s pressure on the Rox to win. I like that. It’s almost like self made declarative statement, “This money means we better darn well win in the next two years”
Bring it on baby. 8th and 9th…the Betty and Street show….featuring guest appearances by Manuel and Franklin…filmed in front of a live studio audience
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That's everyone, right?
I love this deal. What a steal.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
No kidding
I’m going to Phoenix in a few weeks. Leaving 4 days before ST starts. BUMMED.
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
Awesome job DOD
You got everybody on board without going to arb and didn’t go overboard on any contract. That deserves a lot of credit.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
Seems almost expected
been a while since they went to arb, nonetheless I agree with you here.
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Yay!
all we need is solid utility player to take Atkins spot and we are pretty much set! Can’t wait for the season to start.
by Colsportsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
Fernando Tatis hopefully
He is our answer
by purplecrush31 on Jan 19, 2010 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
I'd still be ok with Mora
but Tatis would be good as well
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions
You are holding out the hope
that they would be buying 2007 Mora…I can tell.
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2008 mora was better than 2007 mora
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
That's probably what I meant
he wasn’t on my fantasy team either year – so I couldn’t quite remember.
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2008 Mora posted a 114 wRC+
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
2009 Mora threw his players under the bus and lost four straight to close the season. Thank God he got his ass fired.
This is the Seahawks blog, right?
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
What do you think of Pete Carroll?
A disaster like New England or a success like USC?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
Carroll went 27-21 in New England with a division title and two playoff appearances. Maybe in New England that’s a ‘disaster’, but in Seattle that’s a ‘contract extension’.
I think he’ll find some sort of happy medium and the Carroll Era will peak with a division title or three, maybe a deep playoff run, but I’m not sold that the Super Bowl is within reach in five seasons. Then again, it’s the NFL, so who knows.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
Can't recall all but...
How many college coaches went on to be really successful in the NFL? Jimmy Johson comes to mind, but the Miami teams he coached were more like an XFL team than anything else. But the failures like Spurrier and Saban are what stick out. I guess I don’t remember Carroll doing as well as 27-21, but it was a while ago.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah but it's about the direction he took the franchise in New England
He took over a team that was in the Superbowl the year before he got there. The Patriots got worse every year he was the coach and were never prepared for a big game. The team also had a tendancy to get worse as each season wore on. (In 1999 for instance they started 6-2 and ended up 8-8)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
Counterpoint: Carroll’s last Pats team had a really young defense, Bledsoe, and that was about it. Besides, they were probably lucky to have even gotten to 6-2 – they were beating some pretty craptastic teams, and not by all that much. That same collection of guys went 5-11 in Belichick’s first year before the defense entered it’s prime, Brady happened, and the dynasty began. So I don’t think the decline of the Parcells-era Pats can be considered entirely Carroll’s fault.
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Disagree
A lot of the guys on the Parcells Superbowl defense were there through the Carroll era and helped win the first Superbowl under Bellichick. (Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Ted Johnson, Otis Smith, Tedy Bruschi were all there through the whole trasition period) It think Carroll lost that team during his time in New England.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
I like that a lot
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions
Both Well deserved
Both of these deals were definitely earned by both of the relievers. Street was pretty much perfect through the whole season and Rafael came in and was lights out in the 8th inning. I’m very satisfied with how our pen is going to look in 2010 and for years to come.
Both deals on Bent and Street are awesome...
relievers can be shaky so being able to lock up a lot talent in BP really makes this team much better. DOD has really done a great job getting this team together over the years
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Did CBS just start using this blog as a reference to Rockies news? If they have sorry I missed it in the past. Cool though!
There’s two links to this site on their newswire page. Spilly and Street/Bentancourt.
we've been connected to CBS Sportsline since we've been connected to Yahoo
so like a year now or so
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Only found
this place towards the end of the ’09 season via Inside The Rockies link to here. Glad I did! :)
love
your avatar….beer and a hot dog at a game sounds much better than my day today does.
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
hey thanks
Do you have any pics I can look at? would love to se them.
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Check my profile
There’s a link to some of my Coors Field/baseball images. Then can access links to other photo categories by clicking on my name, sort of top left. :)
I'm certainly not complaining.
LA needs more stormy weather.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Are you saying you you want more tornado waarnings?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
Yes.
Weather variety is good, and LA basically has none.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
earthquakes aren't weather ...
although, I swear there is earthquake weather…
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Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
they keep hiring Michael Bay
they have disasters all the time! what more could you want?
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Move to RI then, you'll love it
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 8:16 PM MST up reply actions
It's funny you should bring that film up...
Of the upwards of 2500 films I’ve watched, THe Day After Tomorrow ranks as the one I loathed the absolute most.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
Most people hated it, but I wouldn't say very many rank it at the very bottom.
Most people are surprised that I consider it a worse film than, say, White Chicks.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
see? less harmful!
I would much rather have Mummies… on my resume than Transformers 2
Well played, controlled_slide…
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by Muzia on Jan 19, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
this reference wins the thread
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 5:10 PM MST up reply actions
Really?
I laughed at a few things. The “I’m using my body heat to warm you” in particular stands out. We made fun of that line all night.
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
It's running in my store right now..
and it’s funny to listen to the nerd-babble on it.
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Judge Dredd
Only movie I’ve ever walked out of in the theater.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
I actually took a date to that movie
fair to say it was a terrible decision.
So did I
Which made me walking out all the more awkward.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
i should have done the same
might have salvaged the situation. I also don’t think she appreciated my referencing the “supercool Anthrax song based on Judge Dredd.” If I knew then what I know now…
i took a date who was afraid of blood to Sweeney Todd
She thought it was purely a musical with Johnny depp. That didn’t work out so well. That was the only movie I have ever walked out of, though not by my own doing
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Have you seen it to completion since?
It was pretty good. That’s pretty comical though.
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i took a date who was afraid of blood to Sweeney Todd
She thought it was purely a musical with Johnny depp. That didn’t work out so well. That was the only movie I have ever walked out of, though not by my own doing
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 4:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Double post 2 minutes apart
What’s the record?
by controlled_slide on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM MST up reply actions
I thought it was just the 2nd verse from one of the songs.
I thought it was just the 2nd verse from one of the songs.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
That was definitely Wyoming's spotty cell service's fault
Good thing I don’t have an I-Phone and AT&T
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't think it was that bad.
I agree that the premise of the story was total crap but I’ve seen worse
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
Hey, I like that movie!
But I am a weather freak.
Bored. Lazy. Crazy. Screaming. Counting. Another day in the life of a Rockaholic.
by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
Same here pretty
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Yeah, me too.
I’m a total sucker for disaster/cataclysmic weather movies. Even one on the bottom end of the genre is going to suck me in. I cannot help it.
Weather and catastrophe are good
but blaming it all on Global Warming and then making it seem like humans caused it all was bad. Add in the plot (outside of destruction) and I didn’t think it was very good.
JFK
suspension of disbelief is always my policy in movies like this...:)
makes them much more fun
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Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
For sure
Gotta suspend disbelief for all movies really.
One of my friends hated District 9 because of the Nigerian gang…sometimes you just gotta go along with the movie experience for your own sake.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 5:24 PM MST up reply actions
I love District 9
as a matter of fact I rented that tonight along with Hurt Locker…
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
My grandparents got caught in the freak tornado in Salt Lake City a few years ago.
Like, literally caught in it. They were outside holding on to trees so as not to get swept away.
It's raining cats and dogs. what is this crap?!?!
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Wolf, tornado and water spout warning here as well
I just came back from getting my darn radiator replaced:(
and it was nasty out there. Winds were buffeting my car quite a bit and torrential downpours…
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Well I guess since it is nice here today Brad Hawpe should show up soon :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
now that's just mean...:(
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Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
I should be more specific
It was nice this morning, it’s not nice out now
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
I saw OB was flooded today.
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Y'all got on nothing on what I've been through.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 19, 2010 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
This:
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 19, 2010 5:40 PM MST up reply actions
Were you near the F5 one?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
in. to be precise.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 19, 2010 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
ugh wtf
Giants re signed Molina?!?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/giants-resign-bengie-molina-to-oneyear-deal.html
TULO = 2010 MVP!
LETS GO WINGS!
That is funny
Slowest person in baseball back in the division. Now Yorvit can sign with the Mets. I wonder why Molina didn’t want to take the Mets offer (unless it was lower than the Giants which I doubt).
JFK
Stolen from MCC
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:39 PM MST up reply actions
yea i really am not fond
of having fat boy in the division still lol good job Mets
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 19, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
Oh man
I need to go check out the carnage at McC
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 3:22 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe some of them
For the rest, I think this sums it up
(shamelessly stolen from their thread)
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
Well, you were right anyway
There are some of them trying to spin it a good way, but the rest…yeah, hahaha
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 3:39 PM MST up reply actions
I almost feel sympathy for Giants fans
to watch that “offense” everyday must be akin to Chinese Water Torture
Attention Whore.
If they use Bengie like he should be
meaning, not a cleanup hitter, then it really isn’t a horrible deal. The problem is that the Giants tend not make the smart decisions recently. I don’t blame them for reacting like that :)
Right and using him and dropping Bengie into 7/8th or so would make sense
but I know why many fans aren’t expecting many decisions from them to make sense.
but they still have a sack of potatoes with a bat laying on top of it as their probable cleanup hitter
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 19, 2010 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
Giants fans?
Optimistic? Faith in he FO? WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
…
…
Hehe.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 4:54 PM MST up reply actions
Wait a second
does this mean Omar has turned a corner and is making not-terrible decisions anymore?
Attention Whore.
Reading through MCC
The mets offered him more.
And someone also posted Keith Law’s tweet: “In the Mets best move this offseason, the Giants signed Bengie Molina.”
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
I really want to send them a sympathy card from all of us at Purple Row
but I think I would just get the Mondo treatment.
I do feel bad for them, though
Attention Whore.
i’ll take a card. thank you for the sympathy
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by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
Beautiful
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 4:48 PM MST up reply actions
you now what's really funny
they actually have an overflow thread because of the large volume of grief, hate…etc….hehehehe
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haha nice. i’m going to make a new name so i can comment over here more often
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by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 19, 2010 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
You can just continue to post under BBBS
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:22 PM MST up reply actions
are you guys ok with that? i won’t be constantly chastised?
Baltimore: A horseshit city
by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 19, 2010 9:31 PM MST up reply actions
so i have nothing to worry about then
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by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 19, 2010 11:28 PM MST up reply actions
I think constantly is the key word here :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 9:49 PM MST up reply actions
haha sometimes only? i’m good with that
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by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 19, 2010 11:27 PM MST up reply actions
You got more recs there on that one card
than you have here in your whole blogging career
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:21 PM MST up reply actions
We just don't rec much
Ever
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:30 PM MST up reply actions
Actually, you have 80 recs on PR
so you still smash the 16 from MCC
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Not even if you revealed you actually ARE Mondo
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions
Are number of recs something only PR writers can see?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
I believe so
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 9:15 PM MST up reply actions
You have received 65, btw
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
So Muzia has a much higher rec to comment ratio than I do
I wonder who has the highest?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 9:52 PM MST up reply actions
well he's hilarious
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:19 PM MST up reply actions
that he did
and grilled
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:24 PM MST up reply actions
Those idiots
4.5 million for that .285 OBP? (I know it’s 2 million less than what they paid for him last year but they really wanted more) This would have been funny by itself but the fact that he turned down more money fron the Mets makes it even funnier because it also shows how screwed up they are right now.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 3:56 PM MST up reply actions
You rot in the minors, Buster Posey.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 19, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
Excellent.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 5:22 PM MST up reply actions
Renck has a full article on today's deals.
I saw someone (can’t remember who) mentioning recently that every move by the team has a comment from Tulo.
This article starts from Tulo’s perspective
That was actually me this morning
This Tulo perspective is from Renck again. He must call Tulo every single day before he writes his articles. It’s so funny to read. It’s not just the contract the Rockies offered that matters; it’s what Tulo thinks of it. :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I thought it was especially funny in this article after seeing your comment
since it’s more than just getting a few player reactions.
I'm seriously going to expect a Tulo quote every time I read one of Renck's articles now
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 4:23 PM MST up reply actions
I'm really pleased with today's deals
Shortstop Troy Tulowitski commented “biondino’s approval of these deals is a real shot in the arm for me personally, and for the whole Rockies organisation. Biondino’s been a great fan these last three years, and we’re hoping to pin him down for at least the next five.”
I feel like I'm the only here saying WOOT!!!! YES!!
but why not. I’m usually the odd gal out..
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
about Molina?
I’m pretty entertained by the whole show. Posey deserves to have a chance at the starting gig, but Molina will have something to say about that. He doesn’t like sitting on the bench…
I’m just glad that Torrealba isn’t signing with the Giants, I agree with you completely here
Attention Whore.
So has the seed been planted for the Great Catcher War of 2010 in SF?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM MST up reply actions
OHHH!!!
The HUGE MANATEE!!!!
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
This will be even funnier
if Sandoval gets starts behind the plate again.
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
This makes me wonder...if by chance...
the Rockies went after Olivo to help Purple Row avoid another war?
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
there will be no war. Molina will just have the job for the whole year.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
What if Posey is really good?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
How would anybody know?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
If he's tearing it up at AAA
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
Joe Koshansky
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
Todd Helton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bengie Molina
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 9:56 PM MST up reply actions
Matt Miller
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
BUT OPS VORP WARP WAR OBP
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:25 PM MST up reply actions
He can't hit for teh averages.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 10:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
anger
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
makes it personal
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 20, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions
I'll WOOT!!!! YES!!! with you!
I just got so happy when I saw this article.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
This has been a great day for the Rockies all the way around
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM MST up reply actions
as i said to hizilla
I have been able to say that on many a day since July
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 4:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
or May 29th
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
It's hard not to pick apart deals
but it’s been a long time since the FO has made a deal or trade that I would consider bad. I’ll gladly set aside nitpicking and join in a big WOOT!
Just a couple weeks before things really start up. I can’t wait :)
Okay everyone ...Group WOOT Time!!
WOOT!!!!!!
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
WOOOOT!!!!!!!!
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:26 PM MST up reply actions
Hey, I think I finally found a Rockies hoodie!
Now do I go for the purple one, or the one w/ a zipper?
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I like the zipper with the hoodie :) What website?
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yeah, I hate putting a hoodie on and it messes up my hair.
by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:39 PM MST up reply actions
I like the pajama bottoms and the socks!
I have some Bronco socks…I think I need to enhance my sock wardrobe :)
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
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Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yeah, those socks would go good with my Rox shoelaces!
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:44 PM MST up reply actions
hahaha
NO. Sorry, its not like I trust you guys, but I just don’t trust nonmembers who might be snooping around. It’s a safety thing.
I CAN photoshop it to my cartoon me if you want ; ) (half-joking).
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
do it, do it!
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Ta-da!
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 5:23 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
my hands are lost in the sleeves...
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 5:24 PM MST up reply actions
That's why you gotta try it on first!
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
haha
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
LOL!! Awesome and rec'd!!
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Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
same here! Where did you find these? I think the 2nd one is pretty sweet looking
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Google.
The zip one is from a site called footballfanatics. http://www.footballfanatics.com/MLB_Colorado_Rockies/Nike_Colorado_Rockies_Ladies_Black_Full_Zip_Fan_Sweatshirt
The purple one is at fansedge
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
cool...I thought maybe they were both at the same site. Thanks!!
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Sure!
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
Messes up your hair??? That's what the Rockies cap is for. Great look...cap under the hoodie.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
Yes!
You probably can’t tell from my avatatr, but the zip on my 2007 WS hoodie is sort of busted and I need an alternate while it’s in the shop.
oh hay guys we signed Paul LoDuca
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via blakebomber via..uh twitter I think
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 5:27 PM MST up reply actions
Hrm
Maybe he’ll just be a nice veterany presence in spring training…
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 5:31 PM MST up reply actions
IAWTC
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
wait what?
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
Hmm didn't know this. via Wiki...
On December 13, 2007, Lo Duca was named in the Mitchell Report in his connection with human growth hormone (HGH). Lo Duca allegedly received the HGH from former clubhouse attendant and known steroids dealer Kirk Radomski, who produced to Mitchell three checks from Lo Duca in the amount of $3200. Federal investigators also seized handwritten notes from Lo Duca to Radomski during a search of Radomski’s house. The report also claims that Lo Duca introduced several other baseball players to Radomski, including Adam Riggs, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagné, and Matt Herges.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 19, 2010 5:30 PM MST up reply actions
I definitely knew this
who is excited for the Phillips vs Lo Duca AAA Catcher War 2010?
Attention Whore.
VETERAN GRIT!
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 19, 2010 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
Isn't McKenry
going to be at AAA this year?
I guess not with this development.
http://twitter.com/blakebomber
He signed a Rookie card
during spring training last year and he was a hot topic earlier this off-season so I thought I should remember him and what he’s doing next.
JFK
Bellorin is in KC
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 5:41 PM MST up reply actions
That's interesting
He will probably be an NRI and help out in minor league camp. We also don’t have great catching in AAA unless Mike is down there with Phillips so Bellorin, Phillips and possibly LoDuca can help out if the major league roster becomes a problem.
JFK
we signed him so we have enough catchers to catch BP for the 7000 pitchers we have
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
Why?
To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 19, 2010 5:35 PM MST up reply actions
As has been the case for like 3 straight years.
That guy is going nowhere in their organization, but he seems to like it.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 6:32 PM MST reply actions
no longer happy.
To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 19, 2010 6:43 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe CarGo's influence
reaches beyond the outfield
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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 8:42 PM MST up reply actions
as I said when Hizilla broke the news to me in person
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
and i looked like this
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
That does seem to resemble you a little bit
and I can completely see you saying that and then rolling and beating on the floor, like a kid who didn’t get the toy he always wanted. (wait you did that when McCoy went away).
JFK
eh, I didn't throw THAT big of a tantrum
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:27 PM MST up reply actions
They aren't much different than last year's, they just moved the purple from the ear to the side of the brim
2010:
2009:
I don’t like the black CR on the black cap though
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 6:59 PM MST up reply actions
My problem is the giant stripe, not the logo
I liked the tiny stripes and purple on the previous hats (though I know many didn’t). These are uggggly.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 7:42 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
I don't mind the stripe.
In fact, I like the new ones better
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2010 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
have last year's and I live in the hat
Don’t like this year’s model with the white stripe on the front. One of many CR hats that I own.
How many CR hats do you have to own to be a Rockoholic?
Thanks for a great season of Baseball!
I'll be back next year for another ride.
by TripleT-Rox on Jan 19, 2010 11:10 PM MST up reply actions
I've got
13 in my room in Golden and another 7 at home in Colorado Springs. I don’t know if there is a maximum for being a Rockoholic, but if you live in the hat I think that counts for being a Rockoholic.
JFK
What if you just don't like wearing hats at all?
I mean, I do bust out my 2007 NLCS hat for huge important home games, but a preternatural dislike of hat hair….aw jeez.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
We don't really wear baseball caps over here
I mean, I don’t play baseball – when else would you wear one?
You obviously missed my review of "Ball Cap Nation"
The short answer is Americans wear ballcaps everywhere.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
I should hope so...
….my closet is full of Rockies-wear, including a couple of authentic game-used jerseys (and hopefully a couple more someday…)
Hell, I wear Rockies boxers and housepants, though I’m sure that falls under the TMI principles…
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by Mondogarage on Jan 20, 2010 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
niiiiice :)
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
However
this does not mean I don’t like this hat. New styles are always fun to see, especially if the players wear them at any time. Pink hats I can never get behind (sorry ladies)
JFK
What about the red patriotic hat?
Everywhere I see them, they are always out of my size!
Thanks for a great season of Baseball!
I'll be back next year for another ride.
by TripleT-Rox on Jan 19, 2010 11:36 PM MST up reply actions
link?
Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB. Sad Panda :(
Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
I hate all ST merchandise
I would never buy something that’s not the real thing (what’s worn in the actual games) especially when it doesn’t look as good.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
If anyone cares to know
I have calculated out current 2010 salary commitment at 77.971 million dollars.
This is an awesome day to be a Rox fan
I mean more so than the usual awesome day when we dont sign a stud closer and set-up and Hammel…
but then the Fowler- Boras signing is the bummer….
But I gots ta get paid…..I dont blame him I just hate to see him go.
RIP Fowler….we hardly knew ye
Well we still have him under control for the next five years
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 8:54 PM MST up reply actions
Looks like the Giants and Lincecum are 5 million apart
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:20 PM MST reply actions
Forgot to make it open in a new window so be careful
Anyway I think this is going to go to arb.
Also the Red Sox just signed Papelbon to a one year 9.35 million dollar deal.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:22 PM MST up reply actions
rahhhhhh windows rahhhhhhh
seriously, they offered him 8? Wow.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:24 PM MST up reply actions
what else are they going to do?
offer him part owner and 20M/yr?
8M is still a record for first time arbitration, correct?
Attention Whore.
I think Ryan Howard got 10 million
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:30 PM MST up reply actions
I think that 8 million would be the highest then yes
But we are dealing with a two time defending CY Young Winner. The Giants should know going in that he is going to shatter all the arb records
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:36 PM MST up reply actions
On the same day they gave Molina 4.5 million
The Giants are the best comedy show in town.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:28 PM MST up reply actions
Really though
They only think Lincecum is 3.5 million better than Molina? I know one was a free agent and the other is in arb years but still.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:29 PM MST up reply actions
not at all
they just don’t want his number to get completely out of hand the next two years he goes through arbitration, trying to set an absurdly low ceiling for now while they still can
Attention Whore.
Wait
Lincecum has three years of arbitration left. It’s going to get out of control either way.
by Mitchell Who on Jan 19, 2010 10:32 PM MST up reply actions
If they take that 8 million to an arb meeting they will get crushed
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:32 PM MST up reply actions
It's true
That’s why Lincecum is going to make 13 mil next year. Awesome!
by Mitchell Who on Jan 19, 2010 10:33 PM MST up reply actions
But not until after the Giants guarantee him all that money
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:39 PM MST up reply actions
Does anyone remember what Roxgirl's dream number was for the Giant to have to pay?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:38 PM MST up reply actions
So RoxGirl and Lincecum are five milllion apart too huh?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:47 PM MST up reply actions
I've been looking forward to this all winter
Ever since he won last year’s Cy Young I wanted this to go to arbitration. He played it kind of conservative cause he could have broken the system, especially considering how that the Giants low-balled him.
by Mitchell Who on Jan 19, 2010 10:38 PM MST up reply actions
I would outbid you in an auction for a tape of that hearing :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:42 PM MST up reply actions
I would then register to Purple Row as a new user and Rec all my comments to raise my RCR
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:49 PM MST up reply actions
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
Someone has spent way too much time at MCC
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After he sent them flowers and a card.
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Has anyone posted the THT article comparing Pavano and Street?
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/huston-street-or-carl-pavano/
I have to admit that I think for 2010 Pavano is a better deal. I could be wrong and definitely was last year, but I watched Street play in Oakland and I am still afraid he is going to be a bust.
Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I would toss one that ain’t never been seen by this generation."
I disagree with Pavano being a better deal
we just signed Hammel for $1.9M this year and he will easily outperform Pavano, with less “injury” risk. I don’t see the logic in paying $7M for a #4 starter when there are other cheaper alternatives available.
Attention Whore.
That's not a fair comparison
Hammel is club controlled while Pavano is not, and that keeps Hammel’s actual value artificially deflated.
by Mitchell Who on Jan 19, 2010 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
but thats exactly my point
why pay that much money when there should be plenty of club controlled options that can give you 5 innings a game?
Attention Whore.
I take Hammel (but I know what the guy can do)
But that assumes there is a club controlled guy available. Let’s say your the Dodgers do you sign Pavano for the 7 mil knowing there is a better than even chance he makes 20ish starts on the year, or do you gut it out with the guys they have.
by Mitchell Who on Jan 19, 2010 10:51 PM MST up reply actions
I still see the Twins as a small market team, even though there are signs they are moving away from that
for a team like the Dodgers, $7M isn’t a terrible price to pay for a guy who can give you those innings, especially since there aren’t great in-house alternatives left.
Attention Whore.
Maybe?
But the Twins are in a pretty terrible division which makes the value that Pavano does give them all the more important, and I’m not familiar enough with their farm system to know what depths they can mine for similar numbers.
by Mitchell Who on Jan 19, 2010 10:56 PM MST up reply actions
Pavano has a really patchy history of underperforming
there are plenty of FA available that can give similar innings for less money.
Attention Whore.
That's Fair
I definitely see your point but 7 million to me seems like a decent deal, in the sense that both sides are happy. Granted there are a lot of ifs with Pavano, but if he can give an average performance he’ll be worth more than that.
by Mitchell Who on Jan 19, 2010 11:04 PM MST up reply actions
It's not a bad deal
and our discussion here proves that Jon Garland will have a job come spring training
Attention Whore.
* sorry Street is a better deal than Pavano
but I’m still afraid of Street being a bust
Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I would toss one that ain’t never been seen by this generation."
I think Street will only be a bust if he gets injured
He’s really good when healthy
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:33 PM MST up reply actions
you could apply that to most baseball players :-P
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:41 PM MST up reply actions
While as I stated somewhere else in this thread earlier
Street has been on the DL with an arm injury in two of the last three season so he could be and injury concern. At the same time he is almost always solid when he is on the mound.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:44 PM MST up reply actions
But not all.
Some players play better injured than not.
*cough*Yuniesky Betancourt*cough*
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 10:57 PM MST up reply actions
UHHHH YUP
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 20, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions
I didn't think he looked great on the mound in the 2009 NLDS
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:50 PM MST up reply actions
And I also believe that he never fully recovered from his September injury
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:52 PM MST up reply actions
Any thoughts...
On Paul Lo Duca? I guess it’s not a bad back up, back up plan… I mean worst case scenario he doesn’t make the team and then goes and signs with the Mets or something… thoughts?
minor league deal
catching depth
he’s just there to be like another warm body to catch baseballs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 19, 2010 10:51 PM MST up reply actions
Thomas Harding actually suggested that they may look to use Lo Duca as a backup 1B.
I don’t actually think that’s likely, but I hadn’t considered it.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 10:58 PM MST up reply actions
we have like 3 backup 1B now
considering that Smith took grounders at 1B last season
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 20, 2010 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
Man, life's kept me away
No time to post, and barely any time to read any, so I’ll lump it all here.
Huge kudos for the Street and Betancourt signings. It’s arguable that three years for a closer is a mistake, but it sends a hell of a message to the fanbase, and really, we have more than the core of the best Rockies team ever in place for the next two seasons (and much of it for longer). This is a win all the way around.
And a huge thanks to the Gints for signing Bengie. Now please hit him cleanup for 140 games in 2010. plz k thx.
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Dex? It’ll be nice having you around a couple more seasons, but I suppose you can join CarGo on the Yankees in about 2014 when we trade you both before you demand $20m per year for four years.
And Paul Lo Duca??!?!?!? Seriously, wtf? His performance fell off the table once he got off the HGH. No, he will not be this year’s :-C either in performance or fan favoritude.
That is all, back to the heavy grind.
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He will hopefully be this year's :-C in terms of staying far away from the MLB team all season, though.
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 19, 2010 10:58 PM MST up reply actions
I'm on board with that
I don’t ever want to see Lo Duca on the active roster. Ever. I’d rather bring back JD Closser first.
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by Mondogarage on Jan 19, 2010 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
Well, we'll trade Lo Duca for him straight up
Back to the Dodgers, where they can slide further into Chavez Ravine….
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by Mondogarage on Jan 19, 2010 11:01 PM MST up reply actions
Hey now, let's not say things we'll regret
Like JD Closser, I’d have a hard time deciding between H1N1 or Closser behind the plate. I say we bring back Charles Johnson, he was the man and I bet he can still play better then Lo Juica.
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Also Jon Heyman ranks his 10 best offseason performers. The Rockies didn’t make his list.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:26 PM MST reply actions
Obviously Heyman wrote that piece before today.
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The Giants would be on that list after the Molina signing
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by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 20, 2010 12:42 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone on that list was heavily in Free Agency or trades
the vast majority of our transactions were in-house and not big news.
Attention Whore.
If you want to read something funny (in a the writer doesn't know what he's talking about way)
check out this article from someone who thinks the Molina singing is good for the Giants.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 20, 2010 10:20 AM MST reply actions
Also MCC linked a report that Molina could earn an extra 1.5 million in incentives based on the number of games he starts
As you might expect it was like an aftershock from the initial earthquake.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 20, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
Actually the MLB Network guys think it is as well
and that the Mets screwed up….weird huh…
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Brad Hawpe- UZR isn't everything!
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The problem with the writer's (and I guess MLB network's) opinion
on this is that they keep coming back to the idea that Molina is a proven catcher. While the question I would have in response to that is what exactly has Molina “proven”? Last year he had a .285 OBP and his career OBP is not much better at .308.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 20, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
oh he's proven alright
proven to be terrible
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 20, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
He's also proven that he's slower than some glaciers
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 20, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
I saw an interesting snippet about Ben Sheets on MLBN last night
The analysts were suggesting that he should land with the Cardinals because of their pitching coach. And
I thought, much to my own amazement….that he should get with Apodaca, since apparently he has fixed Street, Marquis and Hammel….so what would you all think of us attempting to go after Sheets?
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Dexter Fowler- The Bedazzler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
i don't not like the idea of it
I just don’t see any way that ownership gets on board something like that, especially with the rotation the way it is.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 20, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
I think once they hear the words $6.5+ million per year
they’re out. I’d love to see Sheets pitch here, but he’s too expensive and he’s big-market bait anyways, he’s either going st. louis, nym, nyy or the cubs.
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You guys have probably already seen this
but here it is anyway. Evan Brunell from THT has a neat little comparison between Carl Pavano and Hous. http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/huston-street-or-carl-pavano/
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2010 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
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