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Tuesday Rockpile: Bullpen dust starting to settle

Financial commitments are already set for Huston Street, Rafael Betancourt, Matt Belisle, Randy Flores and Manuel Corpas in the bullpen, while Franklin Morales and Matt Daley have shown with their performance to be an asset with the MLB club.  That fills the seven spots right there, but Dan O'Dowd is wisely still at the market seaching for hidden deals.

The Rockies have been reportedly interested in Derrick Turnbow for nearly two months.  The former All-Star Brewer closer is 8-15 with a 6.13 ERA since 2006, with only 6.1 IP in MLB the last two seasons.  According to Troy Renck, the Rockies "remain firmly in the mix" for Turnbow, who could decide as early as tomorrow.  

Another more recently publicized option, also of the former All-Star-closer-turned-heap-of-stinking-rotting-trash mold, is Eric Gagne.  Facepalm quote candidate number one:

"Gagne was unimpressive to the Phillies during a throwing session last week, but he has a strong connecton to manager Jim Tracy" - Renck

Troy also revealed the final details on Rafael Betancourt's contract.  He will earn $3.775M each of the next two seasons.  He could earn $450k through performance bonuses.  The bonus source isn't as silly as giving him a bump for a Gold Glove, but he still won't sniff it.  The entirety of the bonus is based on "games finished," starting with forty.  Sure, Street could get injured.  But last year in a playoff push, the club went with a young converted starter with a reputation for being a headcase over Raffy.  

Jim Tracy is "tickled to death" to have Jason Giambi back.  The implications of the move are wide-reaching and riveting.  Todd Helton seems to imply it may provide him with more power in his swing in September to have a legitimate replacement at first base.  As for the rest of the article, only put as much stock into details as your ability to handle insanity dictates.  Basically, try not to envision Eric Young in left field, Jason Giambi hitting third while batting .111, or "open competition" giving Paul LoDuca Miguel Olivo's bench spot after marginally better ST play while Brad Hawpe is an unquestioned starter regardless of competetion.  Just don't put too much stock into it.  It can drive you crazy.  Trust me.  

 

NL West Quick Draw

BtB has posted the DiamondView 2.010 for the Arizona Diamondbacks.  The projections for Kelly Johnson and Comeback Player of the Year candidate Conor Jackson are especially bullish, while the Snakes' middle infield is incredibly square.

He played three seasons in San Diego and toiled on Joe Torre's bench in 2009.  After a very lackluster campaign last season, Mark Loretta has chosen to retire, immediately taking a position as special assistant to baseball operations with the Padres. If it felt like Loretta specifically tore up Rockies' pitching in his career, it's because he did. The 38-year-old started against Colorado more than any team in MLB, and his .847 OPS against the Rox was his best against any NL team.  Even though I had a TBLA/Clint Barmes level disdain for facing him, I respected him as much as any opponent.

There's a couple more links after the jump

Star-divide

As RIRF pointed out in the Rockpile yesterday, Jim Caple wrote a piece for ESPN that poorly fits their "Hot Stove U:  Six Weeks of Knowledge in 2010" series.  The insider piece throws "more sophisticated, precise and complicated" stats like WHIP and OPS under the bus, saying "no stat holds as much importance as the humble run."  Sure, it's important to score runs, but it has almost no predictive value and is entirely context dependent.  Team runs maybe, but individual runs are silly.  Caple asks:

Why are we told how many triples a player has hit but not how many runs he has scored? I'll tell you why. Because the run is the most neglected, underrated stat in baseball.

No, it's because even most traditionalists realize runs are stupid.  Jimmy Rollins had an OBP .002 higher than Clint Barmes in 2009, yet he was top ten in the NL in runs.  Hmmm.

The series isn't completely worthless though.  Fangraphs' own Matthew Carruth and Dave Cameron have written articles thus far.   

And just to be fair, we'll jump to the other side of ridiculousness, where The Hardball Times has revealed TWELVE new SABR stats:  xBABIP, xWINS, xLOB%, HRR/FB, xHRR/FB, R/HR, xR/HR,  RS (Run Support), xRS, BS (Bullpen Support) and xBS

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Might Matt Daley get pushed off the 25-man roster in favor of a veteran who couldn’t find an MLB job last year?

No thanks :/

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 8:54 AM MST reply actions  

I vote

not only NO but HELLNO!! not ever…

just sayin’

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I have my doubts that he can keep fooling hitters

but I love the guy and I hope he gets a shot. I will not be amused if someone like Gagne bumps him.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Agree

Gagne is done and I don’t want any part of him.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I've generally been very happy with the moves the Rockies have made

but recently I’m scratching my head. I can kind of understand Hawpe over Smith, because Hawpe is the proven veteran and that’s the way MLB teams usually do things. But putting a formerly good reliever — who was probably only good due to roids and now sucks — on the roster instead of someone with more talent, just because the manager knows him? And signing a one dimensional slugger for whom there is no role on the team? I’m just hoping that these moves don’t end up being significant to the team’s results.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree with you on the Hawpe/Smith scenario.

I really really hope this Gagne thing does not happen. Funny thing, a lot of people, including RoxGirl, had some concerns (IIRC) about Tracy returning to The MicroManager. (as the LA Times dubbed him)

I am totally baffled by these last few developments. The only thing I can think, is that DOD is moving pieces in place for his next big trade. Maybe the Mets are looking at a Hawpe – Daley package?

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Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I remain unconcerned about this stuff

I mean, if Daley can’t clearly outplay Gagne or Turnbow in Spring Training…that is what we should be concerned about. Bringing in wash-outs for ST invites happens everywhere, every year. The concern is that if these guys legitimately beat out incumbents, and there’s no reason to worry about that now. Now, I’ll be right there with you guys if Daley is nails in ST and gets passed over by Gagne, but I just don’t think there is yet any legitimate basis to get nervous about that at this time. I guess the Tracy-doubters are going to question this kind of stuff reflexively, but to me its much ado about nothing.

by Teekalong on Jan 26, 2010 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Like Micah Bowie passing over Ramon Ramirez?

I’m pretty sure Ramirez had a ST ERA of about one.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Wasn't Micah a lefty though?

At any rate, obviously mistakes could possibly happen. Certainly Tracy has vet-preference potential. But I don’t think he is self-destructive.

by Teekalong on Jan 26, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes he was a lefty indeed

and he had a solid showing in ST himself. So I understood (though did not agree with) the reasoning at the time. Fortunately, Dan salvaged it in a big way with JDLR

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Nope

Jorge De La Rosa.

( I know what you meant )

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't remember it that way

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

it was micah bowie

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

everything I read said "ramirez was out of options"

“so he was traded to make room for Micah Bowie”

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Looking back over Harding's news archives, the team intended to bring another lefty along regardless.

He would have made the team even if Ramirez hadn’t been traded, and one of Ramirez and Wells would have had to go.

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Interesting

it must have just kind of unfolded that way, and that was the dumbed-down version

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I mean the way I wrote it

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

If I am correct, this mess happened because for a time, they wanted Wells to win the 5th starting job.

Ramirez would have been in the pen, but Kip Wells still needed to be paid when he didn’t crack the roster, so he was moved to the pen at Ramirez’ expense.

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

You're all correct...

… they wanted another lefty in the pen, and that was Bowie. Ramirez was out of options, so they couldn’t send him down. So they traded Ramirez for JDLR, kept Bowie in the pen, and put the spudly Kip Wells in the rotation.

I guess the question really is: who would you rather have: Ramon Ramirez, or JDLR? Both are pretty good.

by noelman31 on Jan 26, 2010 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

For comparision’s sake (career numbers):

Ramon Ramirez: ERA- 3.38, 226 IP, 7.83 k/9, 3.82 bb/9, 7.87 k/9, 1.29 WHIP

JDLR- ERA- 5.18, 589 IP, 7.90 k/9, 4.65 BB/9, 1.57 WHIP

by noelman31 on Jan 26, 2010 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

JDLR

Stud starters are more valuable than stud relievers

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

For me, it's just the number of washed up "vets" that we're hearing about

that’s making me a bit nervous. I’m fine waiting until the season starts and we’ll see what actually shakes out, I doubt many of these guys can make it. It just feels like there’s been a shift of focus onto “veteranyness”. It probably is nothing and we’ll have a nice roster come opening day.

It’s the offseason, there’s nothing wrong with overthinking every minor statement. :)

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Fair enough

And I agree that the thought of these guys on the team is pretty stupefying, but I guess I give Tracy more credit than a lot around here seem to do. He’s got a front office and coaching staff too, I doubt they’re just going to let him go nuts with delusions of 2004.

And while Tracy might like vets…he’s also the guy that rode with CarGon when most would have bailed; he stayed with Dex despite struggles; he gave the ball to Daley and Morales in tons of tough spots; he went with Hammell over Marquis in the playoffs; he gave EY Jr. some key starts in September…I mean, it seems to me that he established a pretty legitimate basis to believe he’ll give the kids a more than fair shake.

by Teekalong on Jan 26, 2010 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I love that second paragraph

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Perhaps

with the successful seasons Marquis, Betancourt, Contreras, and Giambi, (all of whom many thought of as getting washed up) he’s thinking maybe these other veterans will have similar success?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Also, the Rockies sort of have a history of doing this, especially with the pitching

Take a mediocre pitcher whose career has washed up and just let Apodaca do his thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it fails spectacularly. I just hope we don’t get the injury bug this year.

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by Justus on Jan 26, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Matt Herges

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Very good point

not sure how he compares on the “washed up” scale to the other guys, but 2007 would have been quite different without that unpopular/uninteresting signing.

by Teekalong on Jan 26, 2010 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

true true

I just see Matt Herges as a better clubhouse guy than Eric Gagne. I don’t recall many very good things being said about him in the LA media….but then that is the LA media……

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Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

He was coming off three bad years at age 37

Not nearly as washed up as Gagne for sure, but still, his 2007 was incredibly unforseen

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Mark Redman

ugh

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by Justus on Jan 26, 2010 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

:( of course

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I remember when we first acquired him

the thread was titled “Rockies acquire former All-Star left-handed starter”

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Also

with the seemingly premature retirements of Frank Thomas and Kenny Lofton, as well as the good season by someone like Podsednik (high BABIP warning notwithstanding) it shows there might be some value to these guys that’s been getting overlooked.

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by Resolution on Jan 26, 2010 10:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, you're probably right about the ST invites not making the roster.

But from what I’ve gathered, Giambi is already guaranteed a roster spot, but there wasn’t really a role for him to fill. He’s left handed (we’ve got plenty of those), and he’s a first baseman (we already have one, so it would be nice to have a guy that could provide a platoon at first). He’s a defensive liability, and he probably won’t produce as well as he did last year. Plus, that means that Hawpe is even less useful.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

From what I've gathered lately

They want to spell Helton at first more often this year so he’s fresher down the stretch. They want to have a guy with comparable on base skills to replace him (although I would have been on board with spelling him with Hawpe. Hawpe’s young; he can take playing first base on a few of his “days off”).

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

The Dbacks' offense is projecting pretty well

and seeing it visualized really drives home how solid they can be this year. There are some questions in my mind with their pitching (Webb & the bullpen) but as has been discussed here before, they definitely have a shot in 2010.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 9:03 AM MST reply actions  

Kelly Johnson will be the best second baseman in MLB.

I think the projections are a little optimistic there, for a guy who basically lost his job. They think he’ll cut his strikeouts, but regain his peak form.

But overall, I agree. They will be a good team. I think this season will be a question of two recovering pitchers: how well will Webb and Francis pitch? If one can come close to regaining their previous form and the other can’t, it could go a long way toward deciding the division. The DBacks have a lot more riding on their former ace, though.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Kelly Johnson will be the best second baseman in MLB.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, I agree with you.

I was just making a comment about how incredible his DiamondView looks. They are projecting him to be far above average in all four categories, which just seems a little silly. He’s decent, but not great.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Have you looked at all the Diamond Views so far?

Because they put all of the players in MLB in their system, all of the probable starters look really good. 87 on-base and 78 power look really good until you realize that it only means a .351 OBP. A lot of guys seem better because of how high the averages have been pushed up.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been following it.

And if you have too, you will notice that Johnson comes closer to filling the box than any other DBack, or Rockie for that matter. The whole point is to be a graphical representation of the projections for a player. Also, there is a dark box which is intended to represent the average for that position. Most players seem to exceed the box in a couple of areas, and be close to average or below in one or two. I was being sarcastic when I said that Johnson was the best 2B; I meant it as a comment on how the system was overly optimistic.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

I think I whiffed a little on the sarcasm

And yes, the predictions do seem a little optimistic.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not convinced

I don’t think the Dbacks have enough guys that can get on base consistantly in their lineup. Last year Ryan Roberts led the team in OBP at .367 while the Rockies had four guys in their lineup eclipse that mark. I don’t think they have enough pop spread throughout their lineup either. The DBacks had only two guys in their lineup hit more than 20 HR’s while the Rockies had four. Even if you extend it to the mid power range the DBacks had only four guys hit at least 15 HR’s while the Rockies had seven.

I also don’t see where they are going to get that much more production from this season. Kelly Johnson is not going to be a huge improvement over trhe Lopez/Roberts second base combo last year and I think it’s unrealistic to expect Mark Reynolds to duplicate what he did last season. I know Conor Jackson is coming back and that should help but I don’t think that’s anything Earth shattering.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

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by Maria M on Jan 26, 2010 9:12 AM MST reply actions  

Are we going back to the Mabry/Finley.....

model? Geez, I hope not, but some of these names brought in either on contract or for ST looks (Payton, LoDuca, even Giambi) for our bench harken back to when DOD fell in love with the veteran “presence” of guys who couldn’t play anymore. Let’s hope that’s not what’s happening.

by GoRoxGo on Jan 26, 2010 9:12 AM MST reply actions  

If they want a veteran presence, why not hire these guys as coaches?

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Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 9:20 AM MST up reply actions  

One huge difference

Payton and LoDuca are “competing” for bench jobs, not signed to have the inside track for a bench job. And Giambi is much more than Mabry/Finley at their stage of careers. His past five seasons’ OPS+: 92, 128, 107, 148, 161. And wRC+: 100, 133, 112, 150, 166.

Finley: 83, 71, 109, 115, 117. and 88, 69, 110, 121, 128.
Mabry: 54, 81, 122, 85, 116 and 56, 87, 124, 88, 115.

Giambi has not only been a much more productive hitter in his career, but he hasn’t fallen off to the point of being a liability. Heck – he has been “below average” by wRC+ only once in his 15-year career, and that was six years ago.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I can't say I'm very thrilled about signing people like Turnbow or LoDuca either

but what they’re doing is setting up insurance for if our main guys fall injured, have a really crummy year, etc. If the team does start these guys, it means that something will have gone very very wrong with one of our major league guys. These aren’t the days where we’re starting Steve Finley because he’s the best we have.

Also, I’ll take Giambi over Quintanilla as the 25th guy on our roster any day.

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by Justus on Jan 26, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Just remember

John F’n Mabry hit a three-run homer for the Rockies against the Mets back in April ’07.

Yeah, that’s about it.

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by Russ Oates on Jan 26, 2010 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

The last two hits

of his career came in that game.

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by Russ Oates on Jan 26, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

just let my joke stand

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Jason Giambi is a good pickup IMO

Helton said he wore out last season, imagine if he hadn’t! Giambi will come in and bring pop and experience to 1st base when the Toddfather’s sitting. That signing makes sense to me. Daley had a great season last year, and I’m not sold on either Gagne or Turnbow of course. They need to prove themselves in ST, and if Turnbow/Gagne (whoever we sign, if either) has a lights out ST and Daley falters, then yeah with Daley hving options I would go with Turnbow/Gagne.

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 26, 2010 9:26 AM MST reply actions  

But it hurts Helton's FANTASY value.....

now that we can expect him to make no more than 120 starts, lol.

by GoRoxGo on Jan 26, 2010 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

:P

I just love Giambi for the electricity he brought to the stadium in his late night, pinch hit at bas with the potential to win the game for us. I think that’s crucial to have a guy off the bench every night who can do that and Jason does.

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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 26, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Yo not for this to sound dumb because I can't qualify (nor quantify) this but

lets never sell short the importance of energy

(And I mean this as backing you up, not saying I thought you sold short the importance of energy)

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by Resolution on Jan 26, 2010 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought we alread that in one Mr. Late Night?

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Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

exactly

Just like we said last year, this will give Tracy a good PH option and let Smith start far more often because he’s not being wasted “saved” for the 8th or 9th.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

can

agree with rmn every now and ago

by holidayelsie on Jan 26, 2010 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Caple piece

The highlighted quote isn’t quite accurate. Runs show up in most stat lines, and I would say are more prominent that 2b and 3b.

But I wasn’t quite sure what to make of:

No, it’s because even most traditionalists realize runs are stupid. Jimmy Rollins had an OBP .002 higher than Clint Barmes in 2009, yet he was top ten in the NL in runs. Hmmm.

Am I missing some sarcasm, or wouldn’t that kind of prove the point? If runs aren’t that important, why isn’t Barmes hitting leadoff?

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 26, 2010 9:37 AM MST reply actions  

Isn't the point

That, even though they were getting on base a comparable percentage of the time, Rollins scored more times simply because of his spot in the lineup and the guys hitting behind him?

As PF said, team runs are important, but player runs are very context-dependent.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

My point was to bat Barmes leadoff, obviously

No, as c_s says, it was to point out how loose the connection of runs is to skill on a player-by-player basis

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

so you're saying...

even though .294 vs .296 looks like almost the same guy, the 69 vs. 100 is more indicative of who is batting behind him? as opposed to a measure of who is the better player?

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 26, 2010 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Also

Barmes had 604 PAs while Rollins had 725. But in essence, yes. RBI and runs are almost entirely context dependent. Rollins had Victorino, Utley and Howard hitting behind him all year. Those guys are all good hitters. Barmes had the pitcher’s spot behind him.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Yep

you can’t bat yourself home, excepting homers. All those other runs are lineup effects.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Walk to first

steal second, steal third, steal home….

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by Hizilla on Jan 26, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Or, since everyone would have 0 "runs"

They would be the most worthless stats of all time.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

true

but the accumulation of a run would be magnificent

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes

And any player who had one could be considered among the greatest ever. So in that sense they would be a great stat.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I liked this comment from BtB
Runs are underrated when compared against RBI.
They are EQUALLY useful in that neither one is particularly useful.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Random, nooby question..

PuRPs = Purple Rockies Prospects??

Remember old folks, I'm just 18 years old =]

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 26, 2010 9:44 AM MST reply actions  

well Purps can mean something totally different

I though maybe it was Purple Row Prospects…

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Not a fan of Turnbow. I like the Giambi signing – he’ll probably get more playing time as the 25th man than Q did.

by jfh3 on Jan 26, 2010 10:08 AM MST reply actions  

Giambi will be official

Today after his physical. He’s in Denver now

by Oakland F's on Jan 26, 2010 10:27 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Dinger got more PT than Q last year

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by Maris6161 on Jan 26, 2010 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

heh....

Poor Q :( I’ve always liked Q and his glove is very very good…

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Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

not happy

about all the anti omar comments myself. folks act as if he has been given opportunities and then failed…must be because math is god?

by holidayelsie on Jan 26, 2010 11:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Given opportunites and failed

He has two career HR, no speed and a career high average of .238 in five seasons. With his glove, he could find a niche with a team somewhere, but how much of a chance can a pennant-hopeful team afford to give a guy who has such a long history of poor performance with the bat?

I’m also not sure there are any “Anti-Q comments” in truth. He’s a very nice young man who works hard and never complains. Most comments I see reference his complete lack of use last season, which is irrefutable

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 1:15 AM MST up reply actions  

You are officially the most perplexing poster on Purple Row since blamb. You are so instantly defensive about ‘math’ and I just don’t understand it at all. Math isn’t god – whatever that even means – but math also doesn’t lie, and the math – from the simplest stuff like batting average to the more complicated stats that I’m just going to go ahead and assume you aren’t familiar with – says Q can’t hit enough to be a viable big leaguer.

I love Q’s glove but the guy can’t hit, and now there are four years of evidence that say he can’t hit. We can and should do better with both our ‘utility infielder’ spot on our roster and our ‘last guy off the bench’ roster, and Giambi is an upgrade on the latter in every conceivable fashion.

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by Franchise26 on Jan 27, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

what are you talking about

that would have been amazing

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Defend Q AND hate on Tulo

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

blamb WAS Quintanilla. Remember?

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by Franchise26 on Jan 27, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm already imagining the comeback

well i guess you all NEEDED me to come back and teach you all abit tbout my advanced SABR reserach

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, if Gagne can come back, so can blamb

But I’m thinking the former shouldn’t happen, so…..

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by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

the latter MUST happen

seriously I can email him and invite him back…

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I would do it as well

should we start a petition?

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by Muzia on Jan 27, 2010 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Well sure, if for the comedy

I suppose the same could be said for Gagne’s expected ST performances….

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by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

oh he published it?

I just remember having a personal correspondence with him during READ AND LEARN

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

you spoke with THE Blamb?

outside of a thread???

/bows to your greatness

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by Muzia on Jan 27, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

if by anti omar you mean completely accurate and realistic, then yeah, lots of them

I love Q. He’s just not a benefit to our major league club.

I actually met an usher in the rockpile who went to HS with Q. Cool guy. Said Q was a cool guy.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I'll always have a soft spot for Q, just cause he played Longhorn baseball

That doesn’t mean he should be a 2010 Colorado Rockie, if we can do better.

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by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Any idea why the

chicagobreakingnews.com story is the lead story under the “SBNation Recent Stories” widget?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:43 AM MST reply actions  

Anybody go see Tulo yesterday?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:18 AM MST reply actions  

Awesome.

Loved this:

“I’ve listened to the Rockies on radio since the beginning,” said Fair, who is blind and wheelchair-bound. “I’ve never met a professional baseball player in person and this is one of the greatest days of my life.”

Fair said he asked Tulo whether he could come to Coors Field and throw out the first pitch. He was told by Tulo and Rockies’ Vice President of Community and Retail Operations Jim Kellogg that they would work it out so he could come to a game and be on the field during batting practice.

Also the closing quote from Tulo:

“This is going to be my fourth full year and we’ve made two playoff appearances and one World Series,” he said. “There’s a lot more winning and people are excited about the Rockies. Now they expect us to win. We’re expected to go to the playoffs. It makes it tougher but what position would you rather be in?”

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Apparently Tulo has been reading Purple Row

if he’s heard that people expect the Rockies to make the playoffs because I havn’t heard any national networks pick them. :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

DON'T RUIN THIS MOMENT FOR ME :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

It's nice to know that

with all the idiots out there in sports these days that our shortstop get “IT”.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

get gets

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Great find RIRF!!

Gah I love me some Tulo….

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

really

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Tulo has set his goal quite high
My goal is to be the best player in this game and have the Rockies one day be in the ranks of an organization you think of when you associate a team as winning

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Would we expect any less?

I’m postively giddy over his comments!!!

HURRY UP OPENING DAY!!!!

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Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't expect anything less

 I just love hearing him say it.

He had some really good quotes in there. I really liked this one too.

“Passion speaks for itself, someone either has it or doesn’t,” Tulowitzki said. “From the people who have watched me play or met me as a person, I think I really show passion in anything I do. If I’m speaking at an event like this I think you can see I’m a genuine guy and mean what I say. There aren’t a lot of people like that.”

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

man...if he keeps this up

he may just supplant Todd as the greatest Rockie ever….

/ducks at all things being thrown at me

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

No he has a serious chance to get there

He’s just got a ways to go.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Jim Tatum.....best Rockie ever :-p

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by jpage78 on Jan 26, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Seriously though....that was a great quote from Tulo

Mean’s there’s no “settling” going on. That’s good to hear. Onward and upward

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by jpage78 on Jan 26, 2010 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Tulo's the type of guy who

could win ten World Series and still not settle.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

amen....errr...I mean.....this

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by jpage78 on Jan 26, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

"So Say We All"

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

can you say derek jeter Clone

and if you dont like Jeter personally, at least the way he plays…

This kid is awesome…I just can’t say it enough. I keep waiting for something negative to pop up, the DUI or dead hooker to show up but other than a desire to be great that might lead to some frustration that gets bottled up and released occasionally (the bat slam).

What a stud…Be like Tulo, stay positive, work hard and good things happen

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 26, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

There are a lot of similarities between the two

Jeter obviously has a much better resume because he has played longer and has won five World Series but as an individual player Tulo has more power and plays much, much better defense.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

this

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Seems like I heard somewhere that Jeter was one of Tulo's icons.

And that is why he chose #2. Also, the fact that they are both tall for “typical” shortstops, although Ripken probably did more to change that stereotype.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

i heard that as well

i think the team bought him so of Jeter’s cologne…

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by Maria M on Jan 26, 2010 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm surprised in the 20 minutes since this post

that no one responded to “dead hooker” with a photo of Denny Neagle’s girl.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

It'd be a lot funnier

if he said his “goal is to be a pretty decent player in this game and have the Rockies one day be in the ranks of an organization you think of when you associate a team with baseball”

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by Resolution on Jan 26, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

scorn and ban

me now, i guess.

not a fan.
love the rockies. if tulo goes, math or no, i would be fine with that.

of course, i won’t have the time or typing experience to reply to why i just showed myself as the largest idiot here.

i’m the sort of fan who cares about who the player is, and t. t. seems like an arrogant yankee. let him play for new york!

ouch. oops….i don’t think i can read anything here again! can i click on “post?” not sure 5…4…3…2…1…no, gonna cancel

by holidayelsie on Jan 26, 2010 11:12 PM MST up reply actions  

All three for me.

“I don’t like Tulo but I don’t care to tell you why and I know it’s a stupid opinion anyways so I guess you should just ban me.”

I’ve decided this poster could very well be on drugs.

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by Franchise26 on Jan 27, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

It's too bad

One of HE’s first comments a few weeks ago was very coherent and positive. It even got recced

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 10:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I just don't understand how someone could be a Rockies fan and not like Tulo

It’s like saying, “I’m Catholic but I don’t like Jesus.”

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Spot on

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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 27, 2010 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

This is an interesting viewpoint

I understand how one could view Tulo as cocky and/or arrogant, though I absolutely don’t agree.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 1:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't see how Tulo is any more arrogant than, say...um...Jeter

A little swagger is a good thing, as long as it’s not used to rub teammates the wrong way, or give bulletin board fodder. And there’s no evidence that Tulo’s committed either sin.

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by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 7:34 AM MST up reply actions  

According to Jon Heyman

Nady to Cubs and Sheets to A’s

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:24 AM MST reply actions  

Sheets to A’s until the trading deadline, you mean.

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Well yes :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

He got his

10mil/1yr not a bad deal for sheets. That AL West could be nasty this year.

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by Hizilla on Jan 26, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

holy crap

when did billy beane suddenly forget how to be a GM

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Sheets will have awesome numbers the first half and then get traded to the Angels or Rangers at the deadline for serious prospects

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Billy Beane's nickname could be Flipper

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Eric Chavez?

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by Hizilla on Jan 26, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

I meant out of FA

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

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by Hizilla on Jan 26, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

hm...yes

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

No kidding

This is something a big money team would do — gamble $10 mil on an injury-risk pitcher whose career record is 86 – 83.

Even if Sheets has good first-half numbers, a prorated $10 mil contract isn’t THAT much of a bargain, and he becomes a 2 – 3 month not-inexpensive rental — a free agent-to-be. Plus, given his arm history, it would be a wager that he wouldn’t wear down in Aug. – Sept. and that’s a dicey wager.

I don’t think Sheets’ trade value will be that high. Beane has overpaid here, something quite uncharacteristic for him.

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by Maris6161 on Jan 26, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

You gotta figure

if Sheets is healthy and somewhat effective, with that ballpark and their OF defense, he can 1. really reestablish himself and 2. have a nice price tag for a mid-season trade

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by Resolution on Jan 26, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Last year when he traded for Holliday?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

*snort*

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Nice find

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by rockieprogress on Jan 26, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, he sure did portray the Dodgers as a good team.

You would think they’re guaranteed to win the West. I suppose there might be some good points in there, but for the most part it read like “our team is da best yay”.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

That's how I read it

It seemed like a Dodger puff piece.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Well

It’s the equivalent of a FanPost on True Blue LA. I don’t mean that as a dig at this writer or anyone there, but the “article” is basically a blog post by a fan.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I just checked the site to see the most recent internet search with which someone found Purple Row

Believe it or not, it was “great 2nd baseman”

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 11:50 AM MST reply actions  

This is bizarre

“The evolution of the rifle” brought someone here. Thanks Russ.

How about this one (link 3). Thanks Jason.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Wait a...

Someone actually came to this site after Googling that?

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

The rifle or the thong?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

BOTH

Neither stayed for long. “Dead unicorn” didn’t stay long either

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't see Purple Row when I google that

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

It is somewhere deep in a Google Image search

Charlie posted it in the GT, but it has been blocked out now

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Why does PR come up when you type "great 2nd baseman"?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

what site huh

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Yahoo

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh, and it's part of the SiteMeter

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

After the person stayed for 25 minutes and looked at five pages

Including Clint Barmes SBNation homepage

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Cree.p. :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

35 minutes actually

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

They wanted

To READ and LEARN

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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 26, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Satchal Price over at BTB has a

response to the ESPN “runs” article.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 12:17 PM MST reply actions  

Interesting analysis of base stealing over time

link

He breaks apart some myths around the base stealing eras.

It seems that steals have been a function of homers, or simply fashion, and not based on the actual value of the steal.

It’s also pretty interesting how high the success rate has climbed.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 1:43 PM MST reply actions  

Is it friggin baseball season yet

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 1:50 PM MST reply actions  

68 more days!

Bored. Lazy. Crazy. Screaming. Counting. Another day in the life of a Rockaholic.

by prettyinpurple on Jan 26, 2010 3:22 PM MST up reply actions  

23 or something for Spring Training.

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by prettyinpurple on Jan 26, 2010 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I just saw this video and asked my self the very same thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz_KWNStvug&feature=related

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by RockiesDave on Jan 26, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Feb. 18: Pitchers and catchers hold first workout
Feb. 25: Position players report
Feb. 26: First full-squad workout
March 4: First Cactus League game, at Arizona
March 6: First Cactus home game, vs. Milwaukee
March 15: Rockies host Cubs at Hi Corbett Field
April 5: Regular-season opener at Milwaukee
April 9: Home opener vs. San Diego

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Salivating

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

OK I have a good discussion question

Where will Johnny Damon end up?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:04 PM MST reply actions  

I say he comes crawling back to the Yankees

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I though they'd wind up with either Damon or Matsui

so with Godzilla with the Angels I think Damon is in pinstripes. I think it’s in Damon’s interest to play another year in that stadium too.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I think with Nady gone the yankees need to keep him

but then I thought Nady wouldn’t leave the yank’s so I obviously know nothing of relevance about that organization.

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 26, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Do you believe Jon Heyman's report that the Yankees gave him a deadline?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

They can have him

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

So because its up to me to start OT stuff,

I bring two subjects

1) Anyone see “MOON”? It was excellent
2) Anyone see the Nadal Murray match….?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 2:29 PM MST reply actions  

my tennis viewing stops and starts with a serena williams match

I cant look away but I want to badly…Its the same with me and watching women’s gymnastics…

I am too immature to watch these sports…curses my deprived mind

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 26, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

O_o

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

like the fat jesus character on the hangover

When he’s in the car parked in front of the school

“this is wrong, I shouldn’t be here, I’m not allowed with-in 500 yards of a scoll…Or a chucky Cheese”

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 26, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

that would be school

curses, I can’t blog and yell at cheating students at he same time

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 26, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

watching that movie right now.

Funny!

Is it Opening Day yet??? See you at Coors.

by TripleT-Rox on Jan 26, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I saw Nadal-Murray

Murray was very impressive, it’s difficult not to include the Nadal caveat (i.e. injured and still not back to his former self), but even with that Murray has got to be second favourite behind Fed now…only player not to drop a set so far

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by djmbluemoon on Jan 26, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Was it shocking when Nadal dropped out

or where there signs that he wasn’t going to make through the match.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

the trainer had come on the game before for a good five minutes

so not really, there were signs in the three games he lost in the third set he was really struggling.

Prior to that, he’d played pretty well, Murray was just better

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by djmbluemoon on Jan 26, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I was most impressed by the 10 minute fireworks display

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't actually watch the match.

And I’m not really talking about his tennis. I just don’t like him. He’s always struck me as a bit of a punk. That may be a knee jerk assessment, but I just don’t care for him.

by holly96 on Jan 26, 2010 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I just think he's goofy

he always has a look on his face like he’s not quite sure where he is.

by BringItHome on Jan 26, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha!

Yeah, he kind of does.

by holly96 on Jan 26, 2010 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Wait.

I just realized I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to. So my comment might not make sense.

by holly96 on Jan 26, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I really thought Rafa was going to make a comeback,,,but alas...

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Moon is at the top of my Netflix queue, stil has a long waitlist though.

In the same vein, have you see “The American Astronaut”? I watched it last night, one of the strangest and most original films I have ever seen.

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Moon is at several Redboxes

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably not you snob

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Moon was awesome

but anyone interested should avoid reading anything about it. It’s a movie that works better the less you know going in.

It was directed by David Bowie’s son by the way.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

intentionally have not read a thing about it

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I know a the very basic plot unfortunately

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:53 PM MST up reply actions  

How basic?

That there’s a moon, and someone is on it?

At this point I’ll give anything with Sam Rockwell a shot. Choke is in the queue, but I heard that wasn’t so good.

Anyone ever see Safe Men?

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 26, 2010 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

More that that, but it sounds like I shouldn't reveal it

No to the last question

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, you should.

Sam Rockwell and Steve Zahn are lounge singers who get mistaken for expert safe crackers.

“This man is in the mafia. He’s not going to let us off the hook because we sent him a f***ing basket of sundry goods.”

“Well, he’s in the Jewish mafia, which is much more like a club than an actual organization.”

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 26, 2010 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ll give anything with Sam Rockwell a shot.

Exactly.

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I just realized he's the psycho in Green Mile

weird

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually, I take that back. Had no desire to see Everybody’s Fine.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 26, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

did you see

Assassination of Jesse James?

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh My Gosh!!

I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE that film

L.O.V.E.

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

meeeee too

I finally saw it a couple of weeks ago, and the last 30 minutes blew me away.

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Its just a beautiful film...

Casey Affleck broke my heart. OSCAR shoulda been his…:(

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:30 PM MST up reply actions  

oh absolutely

and Garret Dillahunt in a western again made me giddy

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Garret Dillahunt had a good turn

as a Russian mobster on the show “LIFE” with Damian Lewis..(great underrated show IMO)

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Incredible film.

If you haven’t seen it I’d recommend The Proposition. It was an australian western written by Nick Cave (who worked with Warren Ellis on both soundtracks). It has a very similar vibe.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I did see that...

pretty rough but good. I really like Guy Pearce

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:34 PM MST up reply actions  

what about Assassination of Jesse James?

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Choke

was kinda cool if you read the book but don’t really remember it. I have no idea how it would play if you haven’t read the book, like most of Pahlaniak’s stuff, its utterly bizarre.

by Teekalong on Jan 26, 2010 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

like most of Pahlaniak’s stuff, its utterly bizarre overrated

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Is it rated at all?

I don’t know very many people at all who have read him. Then again, I guess I don’t talk books too often.

I think his stuff is usually pretty cool/interesting, if far from great. Often hilarious. Sometimes lame (Diary). I can see how people could quite easily hate him though, or find him utterly contrived (which he is, but to me in a good way). Anyway, as it pertains to the thread (Choke) I just think its sort of admirably ambitious to take Pahlaniuk’s stuff to the screen, considering the source material is so unworkable (and, to be fair, I love Fight Club in both forms).

by Teekalong on Jan 26, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

That is surprising

though I guess completely unique stuff is often elevated by some based purley on its uniqueness, especially by those who are fans before popularity. Or, people could really just dig it, whatever. Eye of the beholder and all that. In any case, I haven’t read all of his stuff but probably more than half of it, usually about 1 per year for me is more than enough.

by Teekalong on Jan 26, 2010 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

nope

completely different.

Part Flash Gordon, part Eraserhead, part music video

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

cripes I cant buy a break today

I am going back to just reading and not participating…too much going on

but ya’all continue, It cracks me up…

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 26, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

American Astronaut is one of the funniest craziest movies ever!

“Do you want a HurtzDontIt?’ “So he stabs her in the knee with a pencil over and over again…”
SO funny!!

by BringItHome on Jan 26, 2010 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep

I don’t know if the movie works all the well if you haven’t already had a couple but when I saw it it sure was good.

by BringItHome on Jan 26, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

it definitely worked

I watched it as research for my next film project, but ended up really enjoying it as a “we have no money, let’s make this awesome sci-fi epic as an excuse for a music video” experience.

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I put Moon on my Netflix queue five months ago

Looking forward to it

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Murray very impressive

I think it will be Federer vs. Murray final, but I’d still pick Federer to win

(my other car is a cdr)

by ejskater on Jan 26, 2010 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Is anyone out there going to pick against Federer?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

With Nadal out I wouldn't pick agains Federer

although with Nadal out the eye candy portion of the Australian Open is sadly dwindling. sigh

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by jpage78 on Jan 26, 2010 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Do you root for certain people because they are eye candy?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Sharapova <3

:D

(my other car is a cdr)

by ejskater on Jan 26, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I do not....that was more of an aside

although I do have to say that Nadal is my favorite Tennis player because I like his game. Even though he seems to injure himself quite frequently due to his style

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by jpage78 on Jan 26, 2010 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I like Murray too

it’s about time the UK got a grand slam champion

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by jpage78 on Jan 26, 2010 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

When he wins Wimbledon...

people are gonna go CRAZY!!!

(my other car is a cdr)

by ejskater on Jan 26, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

you mean IF

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

THIS

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know

guess you can’t really! Probably Federer would need to be off. This tournament has just been like a series of practice sessions for him so far!!

Davydenko match should be interesting tonight though

I’d really like for Tsonga to beat Djokovic

(my other car is a cdr)

by ejskater on Jan 26, 2010 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Also

watched Roddick Cilic, felt bad for Roddick he played so well in 3rd 4th sets, then just reverted back to what he had been doing earlier!!

(my other car is a cdr)

by ejskater on Jan 26, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

well I think his shoulder got the best of him......

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I heard a snippet from his press conference

and he basically said that as the match went on, it got numb, and two of his fingers were kind of numb. He said he could still hit the ball hard, but couldn’t direct it very well.

by holly96 on Jan 26, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

We've actually been mostly about baseball today

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

i'm just saying after like 4 hours of like "1 new" "2 new" "1 new" etc

come back to “50 new?!!??!”

“oh…tennis.”

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

BLAME SDCAT :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

You can thank me later :)

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

warnslapped

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:40 PM MST up reply actions  

:(

RIRF send your super sad face please…

RMN are you serious?

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

lol thanks...I think...

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

heh

it was quite the backhanded compliment

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by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 3:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll send you a fruit basket

just as soon as you post a picture of yourself—which means neither of us has any interest in doing said actions.

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by Russ Oates on Jan 26, 2010 9:46 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

well did you get a warning?

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought a warnslapper was

plus with your sense of humor I don’t know if you are joking..

And if it is serious…well then WHY?

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Any one word response from RMN

I automatically read as a joke, or tongue in cheek

Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.

by ShadowPenguin on Jan 26, 2010 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

k.....thanks....

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

honest to God, when am I not joking?

If you don’t know by now when I’m being serious then you haven’t been paying any attention

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

well you don't joke about Seth Smith

or trading Hawpe, or Avatar…:)

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

man, SAS would eat you alive

I’m sure TLMM would concur

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

SAS?

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Sports Argument Stadium

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I think SDcat is RMN's alter ego

He posts with that ID just to mess with the rest of PR

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

by squalene203 on Jan 26, 2010 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

That would explain the no picture thing

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:01 PM MST up reply actions  

groan

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 7:01 PM MST up reply actions  

And I pay attention and have often fallen into

the Great RMN Sarchasm…..

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup that's ME!!! Hey now I can post a pic in the pic thread :)

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 4:06 PM MST up reply actions  

If it's you, then it can be your avatar

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 4:11 PM MST up reply actions  

second

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't know there were so many tennis aficionados here

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

It's the offseason

I watched a couple of matches over the weekend. I get engrossed when watching any sporting endeavor where there is great skill involved. You can really tell how good those guys are.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah

The men’s game is really exciting right now especially, LOTs of top players

(my other car is a cdr)

by ejskater on Jan 26, 2010 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

It's nice to see some VOLLEYING for a change

I blame Pete Sampras for everyone becoming ace crazy…todays game is much faster and the players quicker….thus why I like Nadal

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by jpage78 on Jan 26, 2010 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

better than Jason Kendall

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, it was tongue in cheek

but you could easily make the case the Dodgers’ backup >= the Royals’ starter

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Royals' backup >= Royals' starter

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

well played

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Think about it. You walk into a video store, you see 8-Minute Abs sittin’ there, there’s 7-Minute Abs right beside it. Which one are you gonna pick, man?

Hmm…Just as Justin Bopp’s Diamond View is gaining popularity by showing a visual of four skills, The Hardball Times debuts a "5-Tool Analyzer." Both suffer the same faults of assuming all the skills are weighted equally, while THT’s version doesn’t allow neighbors skills to influence the shape as much and BtB’s is (imo) more detailed, informative and aesthetic.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 3:14 PM MST reply actions  

Looked at it

It looks cool, and it’s fun, but seems like they’re ripping BtBS’ cool graphical tool.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree that DiamondView is better

but I’m all for pushing new innovative ways to visualize stats and this has a pretty different goal.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 3:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm guessing they did it

Because those are the “classic” 5 tools.

by controlled_slide on Jan 26, 2010 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

That's exactly why they're there.

Many people have also pointed out that it’s misleading to weight those two tools equal to BAT & POWER. With a few tweaks I think it could be a really cool tool. I really wish some of these graphs could be generated on the fly by users though.

by phishbate on Jan 26, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey does Purple Row have it's own projections post at some point?

I’m still kind of new but it would be great to hear the discussion on which players everyone thinks with break the .900 ops mark etc. So is there some annual post about that that I should look forward to or can we bust out the discussion anytime?

by BringItHome on Jan 26, 2010 3:55 PM MST reply actions  

I did pitcher projections last year and then decided I hated them

feel free to make a fanpost though

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Wooh, it was the birthday today (17)

Got tickets to go to Coors with my Dad in late July though! (And I live all the freaking way in NY!)

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.

by bballrox4717 on Jan 26, 2010 4:25 PM MST reply actions  

wahoo!!!

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by Maria M on Jan 26, 2010 4:31 PM MST up reply actions  

you're 17?

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 4:31 PM MST up reply actions  

yup.

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.

by bballrox4717 on Jan 26, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

kudos, happy birthday!

I wanted to make sure we were talking about you, because the Rockies (as an on-field team) turn 17 this year as well.

wow.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 4:49 PM MST up reply actions  

When exacty would the Rockies birthday be?

The day of their first game or the day it was announced they would be an expansion team?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Neither.

I’d say their first game is like their first step, or first tooth or something. Meanwhile, their team announcement is like their conception. No, I think their birthday is the day of the expansion draft.

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 5:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Good call

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I disagree

we couldn’t go watch them play, they were just a twinkling. Expansion draft? trades, signings? That’s all UltraSounds. “Look, you can see Andres Galarraga!”

until the team actually hit the field, it wasn’t “born”

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

That is one long gestation period

and I rather agree with RMN on this one

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by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I think of the draft as more of the gametes

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe pitchers/catchers report?

When they got about the real business of a baseball team.

by holly96 on Jan 26, 2010 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I buy this more than I do announcement or first game.

The birth is the part of the process for the creation is complete, and the new physical embodiment of the being has emerged.

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 5:44 PM MST up reply actions  

The first day they played at Mile High Stadium

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 5:42 PM MST up reply actions  

This is such an awesome debate

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't criticize. :( sorry if it came out that way

I was just saying it was a long gestation period. no judgment intended…:(

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Who has the longest gestation period?

Elephants?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I swear I didn't mean it as a criticism...

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

But my point is it would have been okay if you did!

I was just saying that your original thesis used to shooting down my argument was then used to form your own. I wasn’t trying to express that I was offended…

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

My comment wasn't intended as an argument either way

It was just an offhand comment……pesky interwebznet interpretation…

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 6:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh I know..

that really wasn’t all what I was going for in this case :)

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 7:15 PM MST up reply actions  

why not

their 1st game against the Mets at Shea?

Is it Opening Day yet??? See you at Coors.

by TripleT-Rox on Jan 26, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

that's what I'd say is the bday

and then the first game in coors is like finally bringing the baby home from the hospital

and that baby hits a homer on the first pitch

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd say opening day

Spring Training was a rather long birth

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 6:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Late to this discussion...

But don’t forget that the “Rockies” fielded a short-season A club in Bend, OR in 1992. That might be a birthday of sorts as well.

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by RdRnnr on Jan 27, 2010 8:38 AM MST up reply actions  

early contractions

just turned out to be gas

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

And those were the first Rox games we followed

Man, I can’t wait.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Annoncement of the team.

Just ’cause I remember getting that t-shirt of the Rocky cover. At Gart Bros. In the Cherry Creek Mall.

by Since1993 on Jan 27, 2010 12:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Didn't you see his picture?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 4:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Pirates or Cubs?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 4:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Giants.

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.

by bballrox4717 on Jan 26, 2010 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Enjoy

Never seems to be a dull moment when the Rockies play the Giants

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:02 PM MST up reply actions  

badassss

Happy bday!

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by Hollidayrain on Jan 26, 2010 4:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Happy Birthday!!

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey LOOK! BASEBALL!

Padres acquire Jon Garland

discuss
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/26/pitcher-jon-garland-is-apparently-becoming-a-padre/

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 4:46 PM MST reply actions  

they have a very underrated rotation....

Latos and Poreda could be sickkkk

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by Hollidayrain on Jan 26, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the Padres make me more nervous than the Giants these days

because they are going to fly under the radar. We best not misunderestimate them

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

They don't worry me in terms of playoff contention

but there always seems to be one fellow NL West team a year that just has our number. Last years it was the Dodgers. I can conceive of a situation where we’re so focused on not letting it be the Dodgers again, or the Giants or D-Backs, that the Padres become that team.

by holly96 on Jan 26, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

exactly....

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 4:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't get on board with this

The team that usually has the Rockies number is the team that finishes first or second in the division. The Pads will be lucky if they can sniff .500 in September

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

one of my

best friends is a padres fan. We try to catch all of the games they play here at coors…She is a hoot to watch baseball with…and she would be happy if they were a better team.

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by Maria M on Jan 26, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

one of my best friends here in SD

has Padres connections. Her grandfather worked for the Padres as an equipment manager for many years. Back in the yellow and brown uni days. Ironically she finds baseball fairly boring. But she will go to the games when the Rox come to San Diego. She went with me to the 22 inning game, and I thought she was going to kill me by 15th inning.

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Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 4:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow, you were there?

You must have been one of the 20 fans left at the end. What a great game to attend.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 26, 2010 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

No

She caved into her friend’s request to leave I think

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:13 PM MST up reply actions  

yep I caved in the middle of the 18th...

I was not a happy camper. I would have stayed but
its the chicas rulez of hanging out. If its late at night ( after midnight) and you have gone somewhere together, and have both parked far away downtown, you are obliged to walk with said friend to the cars.
I almost went back but thought not too good of an idea.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 5:17 PM MST up reply actions  

glad to hear

that you were safe…good rule to have!

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by Maria M on Jan 26, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

nice.

I think they should bring back the yellow and brown unis…And what an epic game to go to!

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by Maria M on Jan 26, 2010 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

We would then have almost every color covered in the division

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

we need to wear

our purple unis more.

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by Maria M on Jan 26, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think they have worn them since 07

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Hirsh was the only pitcher who liked the purple unis

we haven’t worn them since he left

Attention Whore.

by Muzia on Jan 26, 2010 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh

Do the Rockies let the pitcher pick the uniforms every day?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I remember this being a story during the 07 run

but I wasn’t sure if they picked them all season.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I learn something new everyday!

Is it Opening Day yet??? See you at Coors.

by TripleT-Rox on Jan 26, 2010 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the Pads chances of making trouble...

anybody else catch the Triumph and Tragedy thing on MLB about the ’84 Pads. Great memories.

by Since1993 on Jan 27, 2010 12:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Poreda won't be in their rotation to start, it seems.

Or at least most of them think their final starter will be Clayton Richard.

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 4:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think they are that good (or at least not yet)

They have way, way to much inexperience in that rotation. This Garland move is great for them though because he’s usually an innings eater.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

which is effectively all he does

he pitches well enough to not warrant a demotion, and does it a whole bunch

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Petco might be a good home for him then

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 4:58 PM MST up reply actions  

OT

This call by the Vikings announcers from Sunday’s game is priceless

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:02 PM MST reply actions  

I think he felt like how I felt in the 9th inning of the NLDS game 4

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by RockiesDave on Jan 26, 2010 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Did you have to bring that up?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Chad Tracy to the Cubs

I like watching Rockie Killers leave

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 26, 2010 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

Is anyone else getting concerned that Dan...

plans to start the season with EY as our starting 2B? I fear Nix 2.0. For the love ogf god, sign Hudson or Tatis already.

by mkorpal on Jan 26, 2010 6:50 PM MST reply actions  

Farm system links

I am not sure if everyone saw this or not.

Frankie Piliere did a ranking of the 2010 Farm Systems, Rockies were 10th. (Giants 8)

He also ranked the top 100 Prospects.
1-25

25-100

Rockies include Friedrick at 12, (!) Chacin at 89 and Matzek at 94.

I really love reading through this stuff. Enjoy.

by TGumb on Jan 26, 2010 7:12 PM MST reply actions  

I can see the reasoning for that for sure

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

 I have just never seen him listed above Bumgarner.

by BringItHome on Jan 26, 2010 11:01 PM MST up reply actions  

They definitely went in opposite directions in 2009

Yet most are still in love with the initial potential seen in Maddy

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 1:19 AM MST up reply actions  

but ffffffffffffffffffff come on ffffffffffffffffffff

HIGH LARIOUS

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Melvin Mora high on Rockies utility list

http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2010/01/26/rockies-monitor-utility-market-with-melvin-mora-high-on-list/?source=rsshomeblog

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Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 26, 2010 7:49 PM MST reply actions  

Also..

… Turnbow stock going down, Speier looking likely as a minor league contract NRI, and not out of the Gagne mix yet.

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 7:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Ooh

Looks like Renck updated that Turnbow may be considering the Rockies offer afterall!

by Greg Stanwood on Jan 26, 2010 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

headed to Arizona, but things have changed. Colorado has made the best offer

I’m sure this isn’t the case, but it makes it seem as if we outbid Arizona to keep Turnbow away from the Snakes. Valuable commodity that Turnbow

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Also in the post:

What does Tulo think of Giambi coming back?

Shortstop Troy Tulowitzki said Giambi was invaluable last year, "helping me with the mental side" of the game.

by phishbate on Jan 27, 2010 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

YES

wooo mora

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Remember when Taylor Buchholz was arguably the best setup man in the NL?

If he comes back healthy and Morales takes another step in his maturation our bullpen could be dominant. Anything Corpas does would just be icing on the cake.

by Tulo2low on Jan 26, 2010 7:55 PM MST reply actions  

It will certainly be interesting to see the bullpen when he returns

Advanced statistics suggest Buchholz’ amazing 2008 campaign was a little flukey but still very strong.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2010 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Johnny Damon won’t be heading back to the Yankees after all

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 8:45 PM MST reply actions  

I don't know

I don’t believe the Yankees for a second when they cry poor and Damon makes so much sense for them I kind of thought he would end up signing there. (and I still sort of do)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

In this article Brian Cashman said

“Johnny’s physical abilities exceed our financial abilities at this point in time.”.

Sorry if this is inappropriate but I find this to be one steaming hot pile of BULL S#*T. As George Straight waould say “if you’re buying that I’ve got some ocean front property to sell you in Arizona”

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions  

So the Yankees are broke?

Really, they don’t have the cent needed to sign Damon?

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by Russ Oates on Jan 26, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

400th comment of the thread. Yay.

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by squalene203 on Jan 26, 2010 9:38 PM MST reply actions  

I Personally knew him as a Cub mostly...How long did he play for the Spo's

as compared to the Cubs? Too lazy to find out for myself

I knew he came from the Spo’s but being a WGN guy pre-rockies I only know Cubs

Man he had a ton of game winning hits

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 27, 2010 8:38 AM MST up reply actions  

He played about 10 years with the Expos and it was his first team, Cubs for about five years

I think most really remember him as a Cub though, that’s when he seemed to really break out.

by phishbate on Jan 27, 2010 8:41 AM MST up reply actions  

ok...with That kind of split I can respect that

plus the Cubs are not short of HOF’s….

The Spo’s were like the first farm team for the big market teams….

Gary carter, Andre Dawson, lemme think of all the great guys they gave away

by El Paso Jeff on Jan 27, 2010 8:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Vladimir Guerrero

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 8:44 AM MST up reply actions  

They only have Gary Carter in the HOF now

and I doubt all three of those would be wearing an Expos cap when they make it.

by phishbate on Jan 27, 2010 8:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Larry Walker, Moises Alou, Marquis Grissom. crazy

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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by Resolution on Jan 27, 2010 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Ellis Valentine dude had an absolute CANNON

No HOFer, but back in the day, easily at the same level as, say, Moises Alou

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by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

He had 25 assists in one season

that’s pretty damn good

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by Resolution on Jan 27, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Most ridiculous Jim Tracy quote yet
…Carlos hitting as a significant piece in the middle of the order if, say, (Brad) Hawpe gets a day off. You could have Eric Young in left, Fowler in center and Carlos in right.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 8:53 AM MST reply actions  

Who's that?

(kidding)

You could also have Helton in right, Barmes in left and Stewart in center. That doesn’t mean you should.

Maybe we would be saving Smith to pinch hit for Giambi when he covering 1B on Todd’s day off?

by phishbate on Jan 27, 2010 8:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Let's go whole hog

Helton in right, Stewart in center, Olivo in Left

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by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 10:13 AM MST up reply actions  

hey I proposed that too

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Here's a better one, with logic

Olivo in left, CDI in center, McKenry in right.

Why?

They’re all catchers, so they should be able to catch what’s hit, no?

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by Mondogarage on Jan 27, 2010 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

I remember at one point I defined a variable wrong

and it put Torrealba in CF

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Forget Dixie

Seth’s nickname should be Hollow Man. Or at least Rodney.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Josh Baskin

from the movie “BIG”

Attention Whore.

by Muzia on Jan 27, 2010 9:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe they are going to trade Smith??

I hadn’t really thought of that before. Or maybe Tracy confused Smith and Young or was being facetious?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 27, 2010 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm sure he was just saying the first name that popped in his mind

but then again, if he ever thinks EY2 before Smith when thinking left field that’s pretty odd.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a trade has been discussed. They don’t seem too interested in trading Hawpe at this point and with Spilly re-signed it and Giambi brought back it could mean Smith is the odd man out. I still hope we find some way to cash in our outfield depth, but I’m prepared to see Smith eating sunflower seeds on the bench most of the season.

by phishbate on Jan 27, 2010 9:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I doubt it on all fronts

With Tracy being so stoic, I don’t think he would tend towards such a joke to a beat reporter. That could get out of hand.

And as much as Smith can’t buy starting time, he’s still under club control and made just $403k last year. There’s no reason to trade him

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I saw that

And just…sigh. I don’t know what Smitty has to do to get ANY sort of starts. Maybe a nice steak dinner with Tracy, get on his good side.

Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.

by ShadowPenguin on Jan 27, 2010 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Smith's personality is too much of the Iannetta mold

Bring your lunch pail to work, mash balls and don’t say a word. Tracy seems to like sparkplug guys. And Hawpe.

I’m grasping at straws

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not so sure about Smith not saying a word

I saw him on the MLB network, stating that he comes to the clubhouse, looks for his name in the lineup, gets a little bit upset and then gets over it. I wonder if any of the getting upsets were verbal?

It’s definitely peculiar..

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Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 27, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

I wonder what Smith did to piss Tracy off so much?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2010 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

It seems to me that it's just that Tracy values other things.

Smith just has a different skill set or something from what Tracy prefers. Maybe he’s not fast enough, or doesn’t hustle enough. For whatever reason, Tracy just doesn’t think Smith is all that good.

by RoxnSox09 on Jan 27, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe they are going to trade Smith??

I hadn’t really thought of that before. Or maybe Tracy confused Smith and Young or was being facetious?

Dear Rockies- What a fun ride! Best comeback in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 27, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

33 minutes between double posts?

WOW

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

This has to be the record

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

it's official

I will no longer call it “fisting”.

Cat takes the prize

Attention Whore.

by Muzia on Jan 27, 2010 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Thank you

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't understand how this happens

I’m not an idiot. I don’t hit the post button twice. I made the post, went on to pay a bill and came back to find this. Can someone seriously explain this to me?

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

by SDcat09 on Jan 27, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe someone hijacked your account

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2010 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

no I don't see how...I'm asking a serious question.

I’m tired of this happening. If its something I’m doing, someone please tell me..:(

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Yorvit Torrealba-Our clutch has gone out,along with the best name in MLB.
Brad Hawpe- Yo,Carl Crawford, Brad would like his mojo back ASAP
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.

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by Russ Oates on Jan 27, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

thanks...

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by SDcat09 on Jan 27, 2010 5:22 PM MST up reply actions  

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

YOU

I

.

I HATE YOU JIM TRACY PLAY YOUR BEST GODDAMN PLAYERS SMITH IS ONE OF THEM EY IS NOT

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

If only blamb was still around

So that Tracy could have read his blog post detailing why he is so good. Why blamb, why?

by controlled_slide on Jan 27, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

He started opening day last year.

Then just kept getting better. How is his stock falling?!?

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by squalene203 on Jan 27, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions  

New Rockpile is up...

Sorry I’m so late this morning everybody. I’m probably not going to be around much to comment in it, either.

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