Friday Rockpile: As the Orlando Cabrera wheel turns
by Russ Oates on Jan 29, 2010 7:03 AM MST
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PrintRedding touts Tracy as reason for signing | ColoradoRockies.com: News
Talking with Jim Tracy helped Tim Redding decide on signing with the Rockies. And he really, really wants to be in the starting rotation. Like a whole lot. In the Denver Post link below this, Redding has one of those nifty "out" clauses if he isn't on the 25-mam roster at the start of April.
Rockies battle Reds for Orlando Cabrera - The Denver Post
Rockies said to be pursuing Cabrera | ColoradoRockies.com: News
Picking up on reports yesterday that the Rockies are looking to sign Orlando Cabrera, Troy Renck and Thomas Harding report that Cabrera would challenge Clint Barmes and Ian Stewart for playing time at second and third.
Inside the Colorado Rockies " Rockies add Speier, Gobble | Major League Baseball in Denver
Mentioned in yesterday's Rockpile, the Rockies signed former Rockies Justin Speier and lefty Jimmy Gobble to minor league deals.
DETNEWS | Weblogs | Baseball: Covering the Bases
The Detroit News offers a Spring Training preview of the Rockies that predicts a first-place finish for the Rockies in the NL West, but finds the offseason moves to be mostly "so what?" And I'm tired of reading about the Rockies needing to be a Cinderella story to make the playoffs.
Cannons in the bushes: rating minor league outfielders’ arms
Cannons in the bushes: Part two, the centerfielders
Max Marchi looks at rating minor league outfielders' arms. Read the first link to find out how he conducted his study. In that same link, you'll find that Ryan Harvey, who played for Tulsa in 2009, is in the top ten arms for right field. The second link covers centerfielders. Charlie Blackmon finds himself in the bottom ten.
Durham or Kansas City? | FanGraphs Baseball
If the Triple A Durham Bulls (Rays affiliate) played the Royals, R.J. Anderson would give a slight edge to the Royals right now. Yet, with an addition or two to the Bulls' lineup. . . . Read the comments as well.
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From Tatis to Mora to Cabrera
Next we’ll be bringing Q back.
Unless Cabrera would come cheaper than I expect he will,
I’d rather give EY2 a shot at a cost of $400,000 or whatever league minimum is this year.
New decade, new result: time for a Rockies' division championship.
I'll take that a step further...
I’m usually fine with our off-season rumors/moves, but not this time. I don’t want Cabrera at any price. Tatis would have been great. Mora, yeah what the Heck. Cabrera….. No thanks, I’d rather not make any move at all.
Fully agree.
Unless the price is super cheap (and even then) I have 0 interest in ocab. Ugh, I hope we aren’t really in a bidding war for him.
Bidding War and Orlando Cabrera
are phrases that should never be in the same sentence
Because it's become tiresome
Exactly...Precisely...
After watching Cabrera [insert crude metaphor here] last year with the Twins, I want him to stay far far far away from the Rockies…
Seems like a perfect fit for the Reds though. :)
Hot buttered toast! Mmmmmm.
I don't understand
Looking at our infield I feel like it is screaming for depth. Our CI / MI are pretty good and in the end I want them out there, but wouldn’t you feel safer with another backup. I don’t think bringing in a Cabrera or More means that EY2 doesn’t get a chance. What if Tulo goes down? There are so many what if’s it’s sick. Yeah, I can’t imagine why it would be a bad idea to bring someone else in. I also want the best player we can get for a reasonable price and I believe this is exactly what th FO is up too.
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"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I would toss one that ain’t never been seen by this generation."
Agreed. Just not Cabrera.
I just see no upside in Cabrera, and this is one of the few times I’d worry about an addition just causing confusion and stealing ABs in ST. If somebody gets hurt, I think I’d much rather give one of our 4A guys or Chris Nelson a shot before a guy who was always overrated. I mean really, at some point we should give Nelson a shot before we lose him to roster issues anyway. If somebody gets hurt and we need a replacement to ground out to SS for a month….. I’d much rather it be Nelson.
Chris Nelson
Played in Tulsa all last year and has had to sit out from injuries in each of the last two. I really feel that if the Rockies are going to compete for the NL west they need an experienced utility guy.
Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I would toss one that ain’t never been seen by this generation."
I'm in agreement with the EY2 idea
If we can’t land someone really solid who will be a legimate contender for time in the infield like Hudson and Lopez I would just assume give Eric Young JR. a shot. I know there are questions about his defense but at least with that option he can continue to develop. He also gives a flexibility being switch hitter and great base stealer (in the minors, I know he was not good at it in the majors last year but he will develop). I’ve also heard he plays an outstanding Left Field! ;)
by BringItHome on Jan 29, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Matt Miller?
Really?
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For being a sports copy editor in a major US city
That was really poorly written. Sentence fragments. They “aren’t gonna go that route”, misspelling of Gobble, " there’s know knowing," as well as inaccuracies – CarGo hitting eighth? Why did we choose not to retain Contreras?
On the bright side, Street looks like he can play shortstop
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 8:50 AM MST up reply actions
Actually, he CAN play SS
That was his position in high school & he was all-state at it.
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I believe it
I thought that was Tulo for a moment
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions
And he was all-state in football as a safety the same year
That was at the 5-A (top level) in Texas.
The guy’s an athlete.
New decade, new result: time for a Rockies' division championship.
This may not work because it's a long link, but try
http://www.westlakepicayune.com/2010/01/21/rockies-make-it-payday-for-former-chap-street
Or, go to www.westlakepicayune.com, click on sports, go to the 2nd webpage of sports, & you’ll see the article on Street.
They had a story on the local TV sports news about his signing earlier this week, with archived footage from high school … playing football.
Same school as Drew Brees, by the way (and my 2 daughters). Equally nice guys.
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Long links are cool here :)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
It's a blog.
Are you expecting award-winning prose like we do at PR?
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No, but he's a copy editor
He’s paid to be grammatically correct
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
Well
It certainly won’t be Seth Smith.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Who is this Matt Miller
Six years in the minors, never heard his name mentioned on the Row. Probably not going to break through this year. Is he invited to Spring Training?
Side note: I heard that the Rockies minor league teams will not be in Tucson at all this year when I was there last year. Were they usually in Tucson during a portion of ST?
Is it Opening Day yet??? See you at Coors.
Minor league players
have always worked out with the Rockies in the past correct? I heard that they were moving to Reno, NV or somewhere like that.
I could have received bad info.
Is it Opening Day yet??? See you at Coors.
?
The Diamondbacks’ AAA team moved from Tucson to Reno last season. Could that be it? They wouldn’t have the minor leaguers working out in Nevada during ST.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
This is correct
Makes no sense to have the minors that far away from the big club, especially when the MLB coaches help in the minor league camps
JFK
Redding on the 25-mam roster?
We have enough mams as it is.
Really though, does he really think he stands a good chance to be on the 25-man in April? I imagine that if he is, something else has gone wrong.
I'm serious
I think they plan to plug him in as the long reliever like they did with Redding. That’s why I don’t like this. They will force him in there ahead of some of the other young talent we have. I have no problem with him being a minor league addition but they will try to force him in somewhere.
by BringItHome on Jan 29, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
Eww, I prefer to pretend Redman never happened.
I’ll withhold panic until the roster is set. I won’t be too happy if Redding is part of it.
You take that back
Redman was an All-Star, young man.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
Probably insurance
if something does go wrong with a starting arm. Has there ever been a season where there hasn’t been DL time for the starting rotation?
Is it Opening Day yet??? See you at Coors.
Last year was as close as you could get
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
It sure didn't hurt
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 4:13 PM MST up reply actions
If Redding is that pedestrian in skills
then I don’t think we need to worry about him taking a spot on the 25 man roster.
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
I am mesmerized
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
God I miss AD
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
by bleedspurple on Jan 29, 2010 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
The movie is still coming.
Shooting this year apparently. Not as good as the show being back but I can’t wait.
I'm excited too
The whole cast is just awesome
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
by bleedspurple on Jan 29, 2010 9:07 AM MST up reply actions
I don't know if I want a movie
They gave us three perfect seasons; I wonder if a movie would just tarnish the memory. Or it could be awesome I guess.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
by squalene203 on Jan 29, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
If Rosenthal wants to get all kooky
why not say the Rox will sign Mora and Cabrera and then trade them and Barmes to the Fish for Uggla? Now that’s some true wild-eyed tomfoolery.
Hot buttered toast! Mmmmmm.
They have yet to sign an "old player" to a major league contract
I wouldn’t dive under into the coffee table yet.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 9:20 AM MST up reply actions
Giambi grey beard disagrees
but yeah, it’s just mainly minor league upside signings. Ms. Featherbottom can relax.
I like Giambi
but he better be John Vander Wal with the pinch hitting, or it’s going to be hard for him to stick the whole year.
Well, yeah
but he’s at least a proven productive bat still. His only below average wRC+ year was six seasons ago, so while “old,” he doesn’t fit the “scrapheap” mold people like to freak out about
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
Every other backup bench player
that’s been discussed fits the greybeard mold – Mora, Tatis, Ocab. And not in the Brett Favre way. Some of them may be useful, but don’t hoodwink me.
So signing one grizzled veteran to be on the bench is delusional?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
Signing two players of limited utility is questionable
Giambi and Mora: Specifically Mora’s defensive flexibility (he hasn’t played the outfield since 03, and has played 4 major league innings at first), and definitely his offense, which aside from ’08 has been trending down for 5 years.
Giambi and OCab: Specifically OCab’s offense, and maybe his defensive reliability at the positions where a backup is needed – 2B and 3B. He hasn’t played 3B in the majors ever, and hasn’t played 2B since long before the Expos ceased to exist.
I was kidding with the hoodwinked comment (I just wanted to post that .gif), but I’d rather see EY2 fill the role Mora or OCab would play. He can bat from the right side, and he has options in case it doesn’t work and he needs to go down to AAA.
Flexibility I can buy into
I’m still not sure how I feel about the Giambi signing from that standpoint, but at least he projects to be an asset. I don’t like Cabrera, but until he’s signed, there still hasn’t been a “suspect” signing, especially of the “old” variety, just ones I don’t necessary agree with.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
Right, we're on the same page
as I never claimed any “signings” were delusional, although I was not clear that I only meant the speculation about the oldsters (which includes Eric Gagne and Turnbow).
If you're asking what the gif is
it’s David Cross in Arrested Development. He’s pulling a Mrs. Doubtfire/Mary Poppins and cooking bangers & mash for the family. I apologize for starting an AD tangent.
David Cross is amazing
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 9:27 AM MST up reply actions
not a fan
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 29, 2010 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
okay thank you..
I actually have seen about 2 seconds of AD. Don’t know why…maybe I was watching other things…
I’ve heard its quite hilarious
Because it's become tiresome
Cat, you need to see it.
The funniest thing ever on television. No joke. Watch it, and watch it now.
Attention Whore.
So far before Spring Training
1) Watch Major League 20 times
2) Watch Bull Durham 20 times
3) Watch all of Arrested Development
Where did I put my latest resume revision….?
I’m tired already
Because it's become tiresome
there's only 2.5 seasons, 22 minutes apiece
and you will sit and watch 6 episodes at a time, easily.
Attention Whore.
Eastbound and Down - done 2x already ( LOVE)
Field of Dreams – I own the DVD…. nuff said there :)
Because it's become tiresome
I'll chime in
To say that it’s one of the very few shows ever that I’ve had to pause because I was laughing so hard (for aficionados it was at the “20 minutes to Legoland” bit).
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
You're hogging her
You’re being a little Ann hog
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
Who?
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 29, 2010 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
I have Pop Pop in the attic.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 29, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
I call her Annabell because she's shaped like...
She’s the Belle of the ball!
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
In the States, we call it
a sausage in the mouth.
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Big yellow joint,
big yellow joint
I’ll meet you down by the big yellow joint…
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 29, 2010 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
You're a crook Captain Hook
Won’t someone throw the book…
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
“Yeah, the Bronco’s been discontinued. We’re trying to shed that whole fugitive-on-the-run thing. This is the Escape.”
Attention Whore.
“I think I’ll have the Macaroni, let me finish, SALAD”
by BringItHome on Jan 29, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
I've heard middling to bad things about it and may not watch it
even though I am an unabashed Kids fan.
Attention Whore.
Haven't seen it yet myself
anything described as Corner Gas meets Twin Peaks has my attention though, especially if it has the Kids
2 minutes into the first episode
and I am rolling. So far, it’s hilarious.
Bruce as the Mayor, wearing an athletic running suit with fringe and tassles
“we still need to hear from you: the fine men, women, and transgender members of the international olympic committee!”
Attention Whore.
Eh, never mind.
I’m always leery about watching videos on somewhat disreputable sites.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
I can watch CBC up here
I should figure out when it runs
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
Apparently Tuesdays at 9
And you can’t watch the full episodes on their site unless you live in Canada.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
Ladies and gentleman of the jury, I’m just a caveman that fell in some ice, was frozen for thousands of years, and then unfrozen by some of your scientists and then went to law school. Your world frightens and confuses me. When I see a solar eclipse, I think “oh no! Is the moon eating the sun?”
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 29, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
Major love for JDLR on Fangraphs/RotoGraphs
If he can continue to throw strikes like he did in the second half, de la Rosa could wind up as one of the top pitchers in baseball.
http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/should-fantasy-owners-pay-for-jorge-de-la-rosas-wins
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 9:16 AM MST reply actions
Lot of love.
I don’t know about mentioning him in the same sentence as Randy Johnson or Sandy Koufax but I’m glad he’s putting it together.
Hey where's UZ?
Oh yeah, someone outside Colorado likes JDLR. It just proves that Brian Joura is an idiot. JDLR is la suxor
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
PLEASE do NOT sign Orlando Cabrera...
I don’t know any of the SABR defensive stats, but I watched him in Anaheim…He is a terrible defender…horrible range and a terrible arm…all of that to go along with a selfish attitude. This is a bad idea.
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UZR is split as far as possible.
In 2008, it has him as the most valuable defensive shortstop in all of MLB.
In 2009, only Yuniesky Betancourt was worse.
So whatever that means
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
For some reason...
that shouts “lazy” to me…it says if he wants to go after balls he will, but if not, meh. Maybe that is assuming too much, but I watched him a lot in Anaheim and he seemed like a bad attitude guy, then he went to Chicago and complained about not starting a couple of games in a row.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Jan 29, 2010 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
UZR/150 has him at 3.8 career at SS
Using UZR for a single year is Bad™. He’s considered a defensive wiz generally. He obviously isn’t but he’s a plus defender generally. I’m sure OCab could cover any infield position decently but I would prefer Stew at 3B, Tulo at SS, Barmes at 2B defensively over OCab at this point in his career.
His arm is terrible...
I’m not sure he could make a strong throw from third.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Jan 29, 2010 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
According to Renck
the Rockies think he could handle third. I agree with you though, he would be terrible there.
They also said EY2 might handle third
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
IAWTC
With his age, his ability could certainly have fallen off the map, but generally, I’d be shocked if he were better defensively than the infielders we have
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
The only reason the Rox make this move is
because the other Orlando is too expensive.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Jan 29, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
I'm the only one that thinks
this isn’t the worst idea our front office has ever had? Don’t get me wrong I’m not a huge fan of the guy, but I do believe we need good defensive utility guy and he fits the role or at least has at times. His ops is avg or slightly below, his BA is decent. He needs to have a good year to have a chance at signing again next year. He was a pivotal part of Boston’s 04 championship. He is certainly an upgrade over anything we have in AAA. I fail to see how this is a terrible move.
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I'm in your camp, but I think we're otherwise surrounded
Best to keep our loyalist tendencies on the down-low for this one or we’ll get strung up by the mob.
we're talking about the guy who will be the back up for the 8th spot in the lineup though
is he really worth 2-4 million when we have EY2 for 400k?
I'm keeping my loyalist tendencies on the down-low, I said.
Okay, nevermind. I’ll explain my position.
1. I really doubt Cabrera’s truly as despicable as he’s getting made out to be by most baseball fans. He’s averaged 2.633 WAR over the last three seasons even with a crappy season in 2009 (I never take one season at face value). Scouts also seem to like him, generally, that’s the reason why he gets signed by organizations like Anaheim, Chicago and picked up by Minnesota. To me this points to a real opportunity as 2.6 wins is worth about $9 million on the free agent market. He seems vastly undervalued by public perception right now.
2. These concerns about him struggling with switching positions definitely seem overstated.
3. EY2 will still cost $400,000 in 2011 if Cabrera’s in Colorado in 2010. The team would simply be putting that value play off a year when his baseball skills will be more mature and he might contribute more, anyway. The only problem I see with delaying his salary clock is that the speed tool tends to peak and start declining before everything else and that’s his major calling card, but I don’t believe he’ll lose enough value with it this year for it to matter that much.
The problem with this logic is
that it will be tough for him to rack up 2.6 wins if he is only getting 150-250 PA, sure if thats his true value level he could be a solid insurance policy, but saying he could be worth 2.6 wins at 2-4mil isn’t telling the whole picture. How many backups were worth 2.6 wins last year?
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
As opposed to EY2?
I hope you think more of me than to think I was just mentally adding 2.6 wins to my running total for the Rockies. I’m just saying if you add an additional player of that caliber (were he a starter) it’s not usually a bad thing for a ballclub if he’s coming off the bench or not. The Rockies aren’t hurt by having both Seth Smith and Brad Hawpe, for instance, they won’t be hurt by having both Cabrera and Barmes.
I did see where you were going with it
and I agree with the premise. For the record, I am not against signing Cabrera, as long as he’s not starting regularly over Barmes. I do however think that there are still better options out there….see below for Felipe Lopez (who I would advocate starting over Barmes). Signing Lopez upgrades 2 positions, 2B and Util – rather than the 1 position upgrade signing Cabrera would make.
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
Good luck to him...
I wish he would have got a minor league invite with the Rockies.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Jan 29, 2010 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
So do I. But remember that he's gone to other teams before and eventually found his way back to Denver.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by pedalpusher on Jan 29, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
more importantly to the clubhouse
Who’s going to be the commissioner of their fantasy football league?
Jason Hammel is not amused :)
Because it's become tiresome
Good for Josh!!!
So wait we basically exchanged Josh Fogg for Tim Redding…
hmmm not sure I like that deal
Because it's become tiresome
This is too good. It’s so pointless. The Rockies should be embarrassed they are indirectly involved with anything the Mets front office does
by Lord Manhammer on Jan 29, 2010 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
I still think the best option is Orlando Hudson and move Barmey to the super utility role.
Of course I guess it really comes down to $$$. JMO.
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by pedalpusher on Jan 29, 2010 10:27 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
The one thing O-Cab has goin for him
Is extensive postseason experience and gusto. If you recall, O-Dawg was injured throughout the 2007 stretch run for the Dbacks, and flamed out last season when he lost his job to Ronnie Belliard. Cabrera has been through the whole grind.
Otherwise, O-Dawg is just an all-around better choice. Switch hits, unbelievable defense, a very limited market (it looks like the infielder the Rockies don’t sign will end up in Washington……….) and a great guy with a big personality, which is honestly, something the Rockies don’t really have save Spilborghs.
The Battle of Orlando 2010: The winner goes to a contender, the loozorr to Washington. Who will win? Who will be thrown into the cellar? Stay tuned………..
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The value I place on
extensive postseason experience and gusto
is a number approaching 0.
If the Natinals and Rox split the Orlandos it will be interesting to see them face off in the NLCS.
agreed, which is why I said "the one thing he has going for him"
GET DA ODAWGGGG
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Hollidayrain Music
by Hollidayrain on Jan 29, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
Okay, I'm going to go on a rant here
And please know that this is in no way directed at you in particular.
Can we please get a moratorium on lazy nicknames in sports? Using the first letter of someone’s first name and the first syllable of his last name is not a nickname. Putting -dog or -dawg at the end of someone’s name or initial is not a nickname. Just using initials is not a nickname. Is there that little creativity left in the sports world? The same sport that gave us “The Yankee Clipper” and “The Say-Hey Kid” and “The Splendid Splinter” can’t come up with a more original nickname than “A-Rod” for one of its best players? Even the best nickname that’s come around lately (Kung-Fu Panda) smacks of laziness, as the movie that it references (in a very ham handed way) came out the same year as the player to whom it is applied made his Major League debut. And no, calling Albert Pujols “The Machine” isn’t very clever either.
Rant over.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Boo.
ODawg might be lazy but it’s better than Arod, krod, zzzzzz, those I am tired of.
I prefer Kung-Fu Panda’s other nickname, Fat Ichiro anyway.
Than again, it’s no Caber.
I hadn't heard of Fat Ichiro...that's pretty funny
what’s the genesis of this nickname?
Because it's become tiresome
Mainly his hitting ability I think, he's pretty good at making contact
plus it’s funny. Probably came from MCC but I saw it all over before SF started selling panda masks.
Really?
I think that O-Dawg is roughly 472,000 times worse than A-Rod. Slapping the -Dawg label on someone’s name is what people did in college like 10 years ago when they couldn’t think of a better way to shorten someone’s name.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
You're the man now dog.
You’re probably right but it’s better than OHud and allows announcers use the “let the o-dawg loose!” over and over. So yay?
I’m pretty sure this is the source though, not a frat boy.
I'm so glad someone remembers "Caber"
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 29, 2010 10:58 PM MST up reply actions
hasn't caught yet
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 30, 2010 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
Either I'm having deja vu, or you made the same comment before
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe
Sounds like something I would have said.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
Is MTV relevant anymore
Or did it burn itself out already?
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
Last time I watched MTV
Was probably 10 years ago. Ever since then it’s been dumb reality shows and zero music.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
Right
But does anyone watch the reality shows anymore? I mean for a while those reality shows were the hot topic, but I haven’t anyone talk about MTV for a while. But I probably don’t run in the right kinds of circles for that anyway.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
should....gouge my eyes out and puncture my eardrums?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 29, 2010 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe teenage girls? Really dunno what demographic would find them entertaining, they’re all pandering to the lowest common denominator. Which is ironic, because that demographic probably has no idea what ‘lowest common denominator’ means.
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 29, 2010 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
Brain Candy....nothing more...
just mindless entertainment to get our minds off everyday life crap…
Because it's become tiresome
I'd call it the dumbing down of America
But that’s just me
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 29, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
Brain Candy the movie
made when KITH were imploding is still a sadly overlooked comedy tour de force…:)
“No, not horse tranquilizers…”
Hot buttered toast! Mmmmmm.
Thank god I wasn't the only person who thought of that when reading the post.
I’ve been off-topic enough today that I didn’t want to bring it up. :)
I should watch some more Kids In The Hall
I enjoyed the little I’ve seen of it.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
On the off-topic subject of TV shows and comedy
How do you all feel about “Community” with Joel Mchale and Checy Chase.
Takes a little to get into and I love McHale from “The Soup” (greatest show not called The daily show or Arrested Development) but worth taking a look at.
Arrested development reminds me of it a little.
by El Paso Jeff on Jan 29, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
I really like it
There’s enough quirky sharp humor to keep me coming back. I like quick-witted TV shows over ones that set up a joke, give the punch line badly and wait for the canned laughter to stop.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
It is SO good
TV’s last best hope at this point. I laugh through the entire episode everytime. DAY SEIZED!
Unfortunately the whole first season isn't on Hulu
And you really should at least watch the pilot.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
eh, me too
I’ve avoided it because of the Chevy Chase factor but I will try based on PR recommendation. :)
Hot buttered toast! Mmmmmm.
i've heard people wary of chevy liking him again on this show
but I am a chevy fan, when he;s not doing a late night talk show
by El Paso Jeff on Jan 29, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
I love Chevy Chase
But perhaps I give too much credit to his classics like Caddyshack and Fletch. Also, I absolutely loved his bit part in Dirty Work.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
Community and Modern Family are both pretty strong
the best moment in Community was in the football episode:
“You were born to play football. It’s in your blood.”
“That’s racist.”
“In your soul?”
“THAT’S racist.”
“in your eyes?”
“That’s gay.”
“That’s homophobic.”
“That’s black.”
“THAT’s racist!”
“Damn.”
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 29, 2010 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
How did you know my nickname was T-Bone?
Because you play sports and your name starts with a T. Your name. Starts. With a T.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
"You go in there, and you will be nothing but miserable and depressed."
“Isn’t this a pep rally?”
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 29, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
Love it,
I’ll even admit it’s surpassed 30 Rock in my mind, which says a lot. I think Arrested Development-lite is a good description.
It doesn't set up jokes as meticulously as Arrested Development
And there aren’t as many running gags or funny stuff in the backgrounds, but as to patter and frequency of jokes, yeah, it’s similar.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah it's really simple
I think AD’s downfall was that it was so complex and required a ton of context. You can walk into any episode of Community and think it’s funny. Of course character background is helpful with this show just not AS crucial.
Like when Buster got his hand chair back
And said “I never thought I’d miss a hand so much”, and then won a stuffed seal from a claw machine before getting his hand bitten off by a seal. That’s a joke that has essentially 0 payoff until you watch the show a second time. That kind of craftsmanship is rare, and, apparently, not commercially viable.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
or two episodes before it gets bit off
he is sitting on the park bench with an “Army Officers” ad. But he is covering up the “y” in army…
Attention Whore.
Yeah
What a subtle, brilliant show.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
they do the same thing in Season 3
with Wee Britain. Charlize Theron sits on the bench and all it says is “Wee Brain”
Attention Whore.
how AD got taken off the air is beyond me
but I think its a decision similar to moving Leno back and bumping Conan…
But then again I have a pulse and like to laugh…which are not prerequisites for watching Leno….
by El Paso Jeff on Jan 29, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
"how AD got taken off the air is beyond me"
Nobody watched it. Including the fans. It was the most irresponsible television fanbase of all time (well, until Conan).
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 29, 2010 9:40 PM MST up reply actions
By the way
When RMN finally shows up today, he’s gonna be mad. Over 200 comments, mostly about Arrested Development and TV.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
I happen to love Arrested Development
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 29, 2010 11:00 PM MST up reply actions
God bless you. I'll give you + infinity on this comment. Plus a rec.
This habit is highly annoying. Where are the Vinegar Bends or the world? The Reading Rifles? The Dizzys? The Daffys? The Wild Horse of the Osage? Maybe we just aren’t as original as in past years.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
There aren't enough baseball players with disability-related nicknames any more.
Gonna have to start choppin’ off fingers. Frankie “no thumbs” Morales.
Clint "Deer Meat" Barmes
Todd “Don’t talk to me about deer meat” Helton
Because it's become tiresome
You know how people say "you wouldn't like me when I'm angry"?
I think I would actually quite like Silver when she’s angry :)
o.O
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
"Meat" was "Nuke" LaLoosh's other nickname.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
not "Deer Meat" though
Now Annie, may have addressed a letter to him, saying
Dear Meat,
Because it's become tiresome
Cabrera's numbers last year weren't terrible.
Mora will probably be a better, cheaper sign for us though. I still say we get Melvin.
I hate bandwagoners.
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 29, 2010 11:35 AM MST reply actions
If we are down to the O's and Mora...perhaps its worth it
to find a way to pay for ODawg…because he is really the best of the pack. Perhaps we offer a bit more and he takes a bit less? Unrealistic?
Because it's become tiresome
I'm all for this idea.
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by pedalpusher on Jan 29, 2010 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
heh..I'm trying to picture
ODawg and Todd Helton in a conversation…
ODawg(about 100 MPH) = “Todd, Todd, Todd, seriously, can’t wait to play with you. Oh man you are such a stud…this whole team is awesome. Thank God I’m away from the don’t appreciate anything I did for them Dirty Dodgers, oh and about Tulo..
man…….”
Todd(interrupting) = “Thanks, go hit”
Because it's become tiresome
He probably liked the drama of the Dodgers
I hear his guilty pleasure is watching the Lifetime channel all night (seriously)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
that is information I didn't need. Eeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
that’s one of the reasons we have more than one TV.
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by pedalpusher on Jan 29, 2010 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
Yes, that one
He invited Jim Rome over to watch Lifetime twice during separate interviews.
Every once in a while I watch Lifetime for Will and Grace and/or Frasier, but other than that, no thanks.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
Hey you don't have to explain yourself
we all have to find ways to get through the off season. If Lifetime’s your thing than do it. Of course there’s always arrested development, either way be honest
by BringItHome on Jan 29, 2010 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
I've been getting into AD too
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
Natinals accidentally leak news that the NL is getting the DH.
At least that’s all I can make of Adam Dunn extension talk. How in the world has he staying in the NL this long?
DUDE YOU GAVE ME A FRIGGIN HEART ATTACK!!!
I fell hook line and sinker….
Because it's become tiresome
Heh. Don't worry. It'll never happen
At least not that way and not that quickly
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
Lol
The day the NL gets the DH is the day hell freezes over.
As for Dunn…it is strange that he’s stuck in the NL for so long. Maybe he just likes it better?
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 29, 2010 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
He probably does, I bet it's been exciting chasing down fly balls all these years.
That said, I don’t get why teams have paid him to run around an outfield all this time. He’s a DH, if you want to stretch he’s maybe a 1Bman.
Giambi would be our DH silly
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
LF Depth Chart, based on my reading this offseason
Cargo
EY2
Matt Miller
Dex
Hawpe
Giambi
Tim Redding
Spilborghs
Bob Apodaca
Seth Smith
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
Won't we all look silly
If Seth Smith turns out to be a flop as a full-time starter.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
barring injury
I dont think Rockies fans will ever know….And that means good things Because Cargo, Hawpe and Dex are doing the job they are supposed to do. for their position and for the line-up.
Again not to be an Anti-Smith but he doesn’t make me tingle the way the potential of Dex and Cargo and what Hawper brings to the plate when he’s swinging the way he can. Actually Hawpe would be my guy to go for Smith.
by El Paso Jeff on Jan 29, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
wow....someone who actually agrees with me about Hawpe.....
vs Smith…..
/picks up jaw off floor
Because it's become tiresome
Actually Hawpe would be my guy to go for Smith
Sounds to me like he’s saying he’d rather get rid of Hawpe than Dex or CarGo so Smith can start….
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
ahhhhhhhhhhh.....Not so much
but I hate change….It makes me nervous
I still listen to pink floyd on Record
And NPR and Prarie Home companion on the Radio
And actually read books that open and close
And hate reading newspapers online.
This internet thing is OK i Guess but only because you people crack me up
by El Paso Jeff on Jan 29, 2010 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
That's what goes against him
He’s not flashy. Then again, it seems “flashy toolsy” guys can flop just as easily as boring solid players
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
No matter how much better Hawpe is with the bat
And I’m not totally convinced that he’s better at all at this point in their careers, I’d still take Smith because of how much of a butcher Hawpe is in the field.
I’m a stats guy though, and stats guys like boring things like solid defense over flashy things like lots of RBIs.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
stats guys like boring things like solid defense over flashy things like lots of RBIs.
I find this statement incredibly ironic, given that RBIs are a statistic and defense is the aspect of the game most poorly represented by statistics
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
That my be true
But you can definitely get a good enough feel for someone’s defense with a combination of stats to make an informed decision. The Rockies and especially Rays are SABR darlings because they have teams built around young players with good defense.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
I love our commitment to Defense
I talk about this ad nauseam during season but I will take a Barmes and Stewey, when they are struggling at the plate over a defensive Liability like a todd walker or old johnny damon or Adam Dunn et al…
I just like to see guys play both sides of the field….hence is the weakness of the “other” league with a DH….
paShaw
by El Paso Jeff on Jan 29, 2010 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
Of course stats guys also love Adam Dunn
So there’s that.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
It's certainly possible
but I’d rather know and be wrong than the alternative
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
HAHA!
yeah and I guess Glenn Alan Hill can take over as pitching coach while the bat boy takes over the butt slappin duties at first
I don't know
They’re accepting applications from what I hear, but you would probably have to start out in Asheville and work your way up. You never know, you might get the call in September!!
With gusto!
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by ShadowPenguin on Jan 29, 2010 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
you forgot the sprinting visitor's bullpen attendant guy
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 29, 2010 11:02 PM MST up reply actions
he is amazing
The question becomes: Is it the big guy from the last couple years or the skinny guy from 3-4 years ago. Both are/were hilarious to see run.
JFK
the latter was 5456059384 times more entertaining IMO
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 30, 2010 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
Connecting today's thread to yeasterday's...
Adam Dunn and I share a birthday.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
a very stylishly dressed machine
seriously, why does every tennis star have to start their own fashion clothing line?
Hot buttered toast! Mmmmmm.
lotsa moulah + lotsa free time = self indulgent clothing line
got it :)
Well, I have no issues with the gangly Scotsman but I think Le Roger will win…think it will be an entertaining match though.
Hot buttered toast! Mmmmmm.
I thought Federer looked beatable until last night...
I’d like to take Murray, but you don’t pick against Roger in a Grand Slam final.
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
he did, but poor Tsonga was just
exhausted I think from his other matches…..
I thought the bit ESPN did with comparing Roger to Jaws was pretty funny
“You’re gonna need a bigger racquet’
that did make me laugh
Because it's become tiresome
Who's Federer? Which team does he play for and which position?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
So because I'm the punster here..
and not ashamed to say so..
Its good we have a pitcher to potentially gobble up some innings
Because it's become tiresome
Who, Jimmy?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
I would like an O-Cab signing because it would push EY2 down to the minors, wouldn't it?
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
No, it would push Seth Smith to the minors
EY2 would be the fourth outfielder :)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
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There's a Fanshot that touched on that story a bit
Pretty ridiculous to be sure.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
even if this is true
maybe Tulo and Helton give him a beatdown the first time he tries this behavior….
Because it's become tiresome
Its Padres news but interesting I thought
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/29/1s29padres/
So long Adrian
Because it's become tiresome
I like this
For example, General Manager Jed Hoyer’s mention of recently signed, right-handed starting pitcher Jon Garland drew the second-loudest applause of the evening to club President Tom Garfinkel’s announcement that beer prices will be falling.
JFK
Don't entirely agree...
The Padres have some nice young talent like Latos, Venable, Hundley Blanks, Young.
There’s a Gwynn in the outfield.
Baseball’s always a nice evening out – even when the team is losing – in a downtown stadium off of the Gaslamp Quarter.
Two in-state rivals and a team from Phoenix (gross, ’zonies!) plus us.
Plus cheaper beer will help them forget that Adrian Gonzalez is no longer at 1st base....
damn shame really
Because it's become tiresome
Jayson Stark
Insinuates the same thing in his latest.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions
Price
I worry about overpaying a guy like Gregg given his recent (albeit failed) closer status. He has nice peripheral stats and would probably work well with raffy like Renck says.
I guess I doubt that “the price will be right”.
Huston Street was a failed closer
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 3:42 PM MST up reply actions
Hah, beat me to it :p
As long as Gregg isn’t closing, that part doesn’t bother me. He’s still a decent pitcher, but I wouldn’t necessarily trust him to close out games. He doesn’t deserve closer money, that’s for sure.
We already have a closer and a back up closer
he would just be like I say a middle relief and situational guy. I’m betting we could get him at a decent price too since he is probably just trying to re-establish value at this point.
I don't know but I'd take the power righty over him
and don’t say we have to get Beimel cuz he has a good walk up song. Bring an iPod to the game!
but his walk-up song...oh
I haven’t heard anything for a while. Sounds like the Rockies are looking at a lot of options, which I’m fine with (as long as we aren’t wasting money).
which is a BA song no doubt
matches the handle bar ’stache perfectly. Maybe Spilly will adopt it now.
She lives in San Diego
and didn’t make it to many home games, although the song has been mentioned here about 1000 times by now
JFK
I never caught the song at games
I only know it from here
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
Only games I heard it at
Were the playoffs
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
I don't pay attention
to intro songs except the closers because I want to confirm who is coming in, although most of the time I can tell by how he runs in
JFK
Are you suggesting Gregg is equal to Street?
Street was also ROY before injury impacted his career. And he made adjustments based on Apodaca’s help.
Because it's become tiresome
Of course not
But “failed closer” definitely does not mean “worthless middle reliever”
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't say it did.
I just don’t want him hear as a closer….that’s all I’m getting at….
Because it's become tiresome
he is in no way
going to be our closer, you have to go through at least three people to get to that point
JFK
Well, he wouldn't be a closer....
He would be the 7th inning guy at worst, hopefully less important than that with resurgences from Corpas and Buchholz
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 29, 2010 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
Let's hope..
I’ve just never seen anything from the guy, that makes me think he will enhance our squad…IMO
Because it's become tiresome
how does that work then?
does that negate the contract he had with AZ.? Or do they still have to pay that and Seattle pays on top of it?
oh I see now
Seattle just has to pay him the league minimum and AZ has to pay the rest. Not that bad of a deal then I guess.
League minimum?
That’s not too bad then.
by controlled_slide on Jan 29, 2010 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
I'm kind of wondering
I have heard of absolutely no interest in Joe Beimel this winter…..do you think he’s a possibility to come back to the Rockies on a minor league signing?
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
Harding mentioned the Rockies might look into bringing him back a little over a month ago,
I suppose it’s possible, but I’d still think he’d be capable of drumming up a MLB contract from somebody.
I'd imagine though he would want to come back with us
I wonder if he would wait past Spring Training to sign….
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Jan 29, 2010 6:42 PM MST up reply actions
But weirdly, MLBTradeRumors has said NOTHING about him.
Even the guy across the street from me who never played baseball in his life was mentioned there a couple times.
The Rockies are pursuing Felipe Lopez
http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/statuses/8390686106
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
This is a nice turn of events
I wouldn’t be as upset about Cabrera as most, but he’s definitely not my first choice. Lopez would be pretty close.
The only concern I have
is that before his 4.6 WAR year, he couldn’t crack 1 the two years before and 2 WAR the last 3 three years. I feel he’s being overrated as an option because Hudson is the better player and is more consistent, having Lopez is on a different level than having Cabrera.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Jan 29, 2010 6:51 PM MST up reply actions
Lenny Harris as hitting coach for the Nationals seemed to suppress a lot of players.
Lopez was probably one of the biggest examples.
to illustrate my point, just look at his OBP
2005 CIN: .352
2006 CIN: .358
2006 WAS: .362
2007 WAS: .308
2008 WAS: .305
2008 STL: .426
2009 ARI : .364
2009 MIL: .407
Those two seasons in Washington stick out like sore thumbs. Washington’s team OBP those two seasons were .325 and .323. In 2009, with a different hitting coach, they were at .337. Adam Dunn alone isn’t going to explain a jump that big. Ryan Zimmerman went from .330 and .333 to .363, for instance. I just wonder if Lopez is an extremely coachable player that just wound up with the wrong coach.
With Lopez, I'd assume so.
I’ll probably write more about this Sunday, but I’m starting to wonder if all these recent rumors are a sign that early ticket sales have been more robust than the team expected.
Interesting theory
it does seem like the budget is pretty fluid. With this and the rumors of upgrading the bullpen.
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
from what I hear sales have been excellent
Great theory! I hope the front office takes this momentum to add even more strength to the line up which will in turn sell more tickets. If the Rockies can finally put together a good April-May that would go a long ways toward increasing revenue for the entire year rather than hoping that a late surge sells tickets. Signing Lopez would add so many tools with just that one signing.
by BringItHome on Jan 29, 2010 10:50 PM MST up reply actions
hard to get our hopes up too much though
John Heyman said on Hotstove that he thought it was more likely that Lopez would end up back in St. Louise.
by BringItHome on Jan 29, 2010 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
nooooo
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OH YES
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