Monday Rockpile: MLB Hall of Fame vote draws closer; SBN HoF vote unveiled later today
by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 8:05 AM MST
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It's the first Monday of the new year and I'm sure we're all looking out the window, waiting for the new season to start.
The Baseball Analysts: Graphing the Hitters
If you like looking at graphs, the two in this piece will show you how far away Albert Pujols and to a lesser extent Joe Mauer were from everyone else this season. You can also look at how productive Todd Helton was this past season.
The Hardball Times: Wednesday’s Hall of Fame results today
While the official Hall of Fame announcement won't come until Wednesday, Chris Jaffe takes his best shot at predicting who will get in. He predicts Andre Dawson and Roberto Alomar will make it in this year, and Bert Blyleven will fall a few votes short of being inducted.
SBN Baseball will unveil its Hall of Fame voting results today at 2 pm ET.
BaseballAmerica.com: Majors: Book Guide: Best Books Of 2009
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BaseballAmerica.com: Scout's Diary: Fix The Schedule
An anonymous scout writing for Baseball America believes the leagues should be even at fifteen each with either Arizona or San Diego moving to the AL and Houston taking the vacant spot in the NL West so that a new schedule can be worked out.
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Kevin Goldstein discusses things to expect over the next year at BP. They'll unveil at least three new stats and welcome a number of new permanent writers.
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Thanks for sharing that book list
There are a couple of books I missed last year.
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 8:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt mind realignment to even out the leagues
But it would effectively kill the interleague season as we know it, as there would have to he at least one interleague series happening at all times throughout the season.
Who would want the Rockies playing the angels in the season’s final series with the division on the line instead of the dodgers?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 8:24 AM MST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I also don't like his idea of a ton of four game sets
and I’m rather wedded to the traditional notion of the weekend (fri/sat/sun) series.
by moomacher on Jan 4, 2010 8:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the tradition of the weekend set too
I don’t mind four game series here and there, but not predominantly. I rather like the construction of 3 and 4 game series, though there were seemingly a lot more 2-game sets last season than usual
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 9:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see that as a problem
The advantages are huge. Having at least one interleague game each day means that all the interesting match-ups will be able to stand on their own, rather than being subsumed into the current interleague bonanza/glut.
The individual teams would still get their “interleague season” which they can be just as enthusiastic about as they are now. All that’s different is that everyone else is playing plain old regular league games, but so what? It gives all the clubs the spotlight in a much more even way.
by biondino on Jan 4, 2010 8:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought the misalignment between the leagues was odd
I’m OK with this realignment proposal, but like PF, let’s reserve September for the division and intraleague matchups. And I kinda like more four game sets.
I can smell spring
by Rawktober on Jan 4, 2010 9:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is that if there are 15 teams in each league
than at least one series always has to be interleague. If there’s an odd number of teams in each league that means somebody will always be without a dancing partner.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But why's this a problem?
You could also time the off days more accurately to avoid some onterleague match-ups but again, why would you want to?
by biondino on Jan 4, 2010 9:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's just that I don't like the idea of teams from the AL and the NL playing
each other the last week of the season. The more I think of it though I think the positive outweighs the negative.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fair enough, but I'd hope it's a small problem which could be fixed rather than a dealbreaker.
by biondino on Jan 4, 2010 9:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it can't be fixed
but I think’s it’s small enough so that it won’t destroy the whole idea.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Think about this scenario
Top AL team and top NL team set for a final series to end the season. They start it out tied…
All of a sudden that series is potentially for home field in the World Series. I would watch,
by Arimaris on Jan 4, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this after the season?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just schedule the Pirates and Royals for the last interleague matchup of the season, problem solved.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jan 4, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But, but, but
They will probably both be losing on purpose trying to get the #1 draft pick. :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And watching them both try to tank would be more entertaining than watching them both try to win.
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Jan 4, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed completely
“These guys are really good! They can bat themselves out!”
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ever hear about that Little league game a few years ago
when two teams were both trying to lose on purpose to get to the Little League World Series?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you mean in south park
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I land in the field that doesn't mind constant interleague play.
It’s all MLB, the leagues shouldn’t be so alientated. In fact, if I were somehow in charge of the scheduling, I would consider minimizing the number interdividional games in favor of more interlague play. Of course, that would produce a much more expensive traveling set.
As for choosing to move Houston to the NL West AND move another NL West team to the AL, I’d move Houston to the AL West directly. This is because there is already another Texas team in the AL West. The Rangers and their fans already suffer due to all of their away divisional games being in two time zones over from their own. Houston would have the same problem in the NL West. But if the two teams were in the same division together, they’d have more games for their fans that weren’t starting at 4:05.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 10:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd expand to Indianapolis and either Las Vegas or Portland
and then realign in one of two ways:
Add Portland to the AL West, Indy to the AL Central
OR
NL West: Arizona, LA, SD, SF
NL North: Colorado, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Chicago
NL East: NYM, Phillies, Pirates, Nats
NL South: Houston, Atlanta, Florida, Washington
AL West: Seattle, Portland, Oakland, Anaheim
AL North: Chicago, Minnesota, Detroit, Toronto
AL East: NYY, Boston, Baltimore, Cleveland
AL South: Texas, Tampa, Indianapolis, Kansas City
Thus eliminating the WC.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Washington
is in the East and the South?
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, I meant the Reds in the South (I know right)
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Renaming them however
NL Koufax Division
NL Banks Division
NL Clemente Division
NL Aaron Division
AL Griffey Division
AL Jackson Division
AL Gehrig Division
AL Brett Division
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
NO NO NO
By making the divisions smaller you increase the chance that a bad team makes it to the playoffs. (That’s one thig I like about MLB’s playoffs. Just about all of the mediocre teams are gone) If anything make the divisions bigger.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yay 2 weeks of playoffs and it's over
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and no, only 8 teams make the playoffs, just like now
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's still 8
The problem is that by decreasing the number of teams in each division you increase the chance that a bad team makes it. Just look at 2002 for instance. Texas would have made it from the AL Nortsouth going 72-90 and Philly would have made it from the NL East going 80-82. This is while the Angels would have won 99 games and missed the playoffs while the Giants would have won 95 games and missed the playoffs.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nortsouth south
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just add a Nortsouth Division
There are too few directions; we need more.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
look at 2005
when the 82-80 Padres made it in
sure is bucking the system
you often have undeserving teams make the playoffs. It happens.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That Nortsouth one is real bad, though.
72-90 is terrible.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Except
the team wouldn’t have been 72-90 that season under this alignment scheme.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 10:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, those examples don't really prove anything.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They would have been better than 72-90 but
I don’t think they would have done better than .500.
A situation like this almost happened with the four team AL west in 1994 when Texas was leading the division 10 games under .500 before the strike occured.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How about a 99 win team missing the playoffs?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ok so let's scrap all divisions
best 8 teams by record make the playoffs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And I didn't like it when the 82-80 Padres
made the playoffs in 2005. Hey I wasn’t even too fond of the Twins making it this year or the Dodgers making it last year.
I have a radical dream scenario with just six teams making the playoffs that I might make a fanpost about later this week now.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How would that work?
3 teams in a playoff is no good. Bring it down to 2 each.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've accounted for that
You’ll see how it works later in the week.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
bye weeks!
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--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
by Resolution on Jan 4, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify
People are already pissed about having to wait so long for their to team to actually play in the playoffs. Bye weeks would lead to rioting in the streets, complete with pitchforks and torches.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if you can make adequate torches from baseball bats ??
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by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 4:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to know !
TELL ME NOW!!!!
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It involves getting rid of the DH too
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that
I can really get behind.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't need any more detail
to be fully on board with this proposal.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 4, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't support the DH
but an element that makes the AL and NL disctinct is fully supported by me. AFC v NFC? just a difference in names. WC vs EC? Either sport, it’s just comparing relative strengths, otherwise the game is exactly the same. Baseball lends itself to an anomaly like the DH that doesn’t disrupt the game.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is an area where we have strong agreement, but have to admit that the battle is lost.
Selig, by firing the league presidents and consolidating the umpires (and even introducing interleague play), has reduced the importance of the seperate leagues to the level of conferences in other sports.
And this is guy who loudly complained at Rockies games in 1993 about “Scores from around the league” including AL scores; shouldn’t it have been “scores from around the leagues”?
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 4, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah the wording is incredibly confusing
The AL is just about as foreign to me as AAA is to the Majors, just in the sense that it’s practically another game entirely.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew there was a reason I liked you.
[/creepy internet guy]
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 4, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hahah
somedays, I wish we could DH
those days were when BH Kim was pitching for us
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I like this idea
the time between the season ending and spring training makes me feel dead inside.
by Maria M on Jan 4, 2010 1:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep reading
Most people dropped their support once they heard more details. :-)
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am
one of those people…I don’t like one game deciding everything in the end…
the time between the season ending and spring training makes me feel dead inside.
by Maria M on Jan 4, 2010 1:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not deciding everything though
The point is that you have 162 games to avoid that scenario and win your division. 162 games decide 75% of the final four playoff teams in my system. Right now four five game seies decide the last four playoff teams. My scenario would make the regular season a lot more important and exciting.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no, it does decide everything
you have 162 games to avoid a team who finished with a worse record than you somehow fluking their way into the postseason
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it decides everything if you were not one of the three best teams
They are spared this single elimination round because of how good they were all year. But notice Wild Card 1 has a clear advantage over the other two. They get an off day while the other two teams have to battle. This means they get the one game, at home with their #1 starter going against the other team’s #2 after the other team has to travel across the country. That’s a pretty nice advantage. Think about what you would have to do to get to the final four teams being in each wild card spot. There’s a big difference.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Again
you could end up with a weak team winning a division and all 3 WCs come from the other 2 divisions, more deserving of the postseason than the weak division winner
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible but the bigger the division
the less likely this would be to happen. It’s like Yorvit could get more hits in a single game than CDI but he won’t long term.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I listed examples below
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What would happen
if teams have the same record for that top wild card spot? What would the tie breaker be? Division Record? Head to Head Record? Both?
the time between the season ending and spring training makes me feel dead inside.
by Maria M on Jan 4, 2010 3:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If there is a tie within the three wild cards
then you use head to head and then division record tie breakers to break the tie. (no need to have the same two teams play twice since they are alaready playing an elimination game) However if the tie it to win a division of between wild card 3 and a team that would miss the playoffs then a one game playoff would have to be played before the one game elimination rounds start.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
of between or between
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
what on earth
the discussion is now
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and it's even on-topic for once
Spill the beans RIRF
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sentence fragment
Consider revising.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless it is meant as two sentences
Then it works.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Try punctuation next time.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
shut up
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
pssst i can make you
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll just sit in this corner.
You know how I like to stare at walls and stay very quiet.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
Eliminate the AL, the NL and the DH. Have three huge divisions (East, Central, and West) with 10 teams each. Your six playoff teams are the three division winners and three wild cards. But to reward teams for winning the division (which MLB does not do now) the three division winners get a bye week of sorts. The three wild card teams are wild card 1 (best wild card record) wild card 2 (second best wild card record) wild card 3 (third best wild card record) Wild card 2 hosts wild card three the day after the season (loser is eliminated), wild card one host the winner of that game the day after (loser is again eliminated) and the four teams left play seven game series from there. The team with the best record gets to plat the wild card whose starting rotation is now all screwed up.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
bye weeks are terrible and the worst things ever
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Idunno
the bye week before the 07 series really helped us…
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ban?
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You're just mad the Yankees didn't make it in 07
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
do it
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The community would suffer
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Should we all have to pay
for Muzia’s intemperate comment? ;-(
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 4, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a bye week
These other teams are only playing one game
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
One game= Bad idea
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
America loves things that are decided in one day
It would be extremly dramatic and it makes the reular season games more exciting because now team have a huge incentive to win the division instead of just get the wild card
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like it.
I want to go back to a nine game World Series, but with no off days. And Honus Wagner.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It would grow on you :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
baseball isn't a 1-day sport
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
That’s why you have 162 games to win your division and avoid the one game elimination mess.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
so why have it at all
my point is that a one game elimination mess is a mess nonetheless
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You have it because you need the wild card to keep more teams involved
It’s great for the game. The problem the wild card causes however is that it makes winning the division meaningless. (which is wrong in my mind) So instead of giving Wild Card winners an automatic ticket to the postseason, you give them a ticket to the mess. This keeps lots of teams alive and fans still interested but also makes the division and therefore the 162 game season extremly important.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Making postseason= meaningless?
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No
Winning division vs. winning wild card = meaningless. (Stats actually say its better to be the wild card) The Red Sox late this year started resting starters the last two weeks because they knew they had the wildcard wrapped up and they didn’t care about winning the division.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
but doesn't that just reward mediocre teams again?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
Only six teams are making the playoffs and only three of them are winning a division. Wild card three is goin to be the team with the 6th and maybe 7th best record.
Goodbye 85 win playoff teams!!!
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless all teams are mediocre
It’s quite possible for every team to have about 81 wins.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Then you end up with the most exciting
September in the history of baseball.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
I would have to skip a bunch of school to catch the day games.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty much yeah
final W/L record determines seeding, but not necessarily the competition in the playoffs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is wrong IMO
If you’re gonna play 162 games. make them as meaningful as possible while keeping as many people interested as possible. That’s the goal to me.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
removing teams from the playoffs
doesn’t increase people interested in the playoffs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No it creates more interest in the regular season
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how that's the problem
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
During the last month of the year
there was no drama in the AL for 12 teams. I mean none. The only thing that mattered was Twins/Tigers. This would have made the Yankees fight for best record and the division extremly exciting and it would have set up a mad scramble for the three wild card spots. Every night would have been edge of your seat baseball for teams all across the country.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you think that any divisional alignment
keeps the Yankees from being as good as they were in the place they were?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No it just would have given them something to battle for
If they had to fight for best record in MLB (they were close with the Angels) to play a wild card team whose starting rotation was screwed up their games would have carried extra weight. It also would be a nice reward for the team that was the best over the 162 game season.
As it is now. The Yankee games during the last month meant nothing.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No, they weren't
Yankees won 103, the Angels won 97. A 6-game difference isn’t close.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But they were only 4.5
games apart on September 21 with a three game series against each other in LA coming up. That series between the league’s two best teams should have meant something. Instead there was no drama and all New York cared about that week was football.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
what drama needed to happen?
Best 2 records get home field already. They were both virtual playoff locks as it were.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
winning the division gives you homefield and a bye
I wouldn’t say that’s meaningless?
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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the postseason since the
wild card has been put in place. The home field is meaningless and there is no bye. A wild card team reached the World Series every year from 2002 through 2007.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So you want to eliminate the WC is that correct?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not exactly
I want there to be three wild cards. The two worst play each other in a single elimination game and then the winner goes on the road to face the wild card team with the best record in a single elimionation game. So there’s really just one wild card team in the end.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on alot
but I can’t get on board with this plan. I don’t like the one game elimination.
To me the only thing wrong with the system now, is that TV forces the wait between the ends of series.
We should be done playing by the end of October.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't like it
You’re not going to get past the one game=bad part.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not one game it's 162
You only have to play that one game if you didn’t win the division.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
but what if you don't
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Then you have to go through
the crazy wild card round. Thus creating drama rewarding the best teams.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
1-3 game drama doesn't really pick out the best though
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
That’s what the three division winners are for. The wild card would now be a true long shot.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
see: 2007 Rockies
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a rare scenario
With my formula, almost every year would be like NL 2007.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So basically
You want a playoff for the wild card.
That’s what this is all boiling down to.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
also eliminating the DH
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well if you combine the two leagues
you have to go one way or the other. I choose that way.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good way of looking at it
I see the current wild card as doing two things. The first I love which is that it keeps more teams alive. I want to keep that. The part about it that I hate that I want to get rid of is that it makes winning to division meaningless compared to winning the wild card. Now the wild card teams are still alive but there is a clear advantage to winning the division.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
See: 3-game in-season series
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nope, sorry
Any plan that hurts the box office and TV just won’t have legs. $ rule, and no amount of increased interest will make up for lost $ from going to a one-game
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 12:34 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What about all of the September games
becoming more interesting?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This means
higher attendance at games, more people watching on TV and people caring more about baseball in September instead of just going strait to the NFL. That’s quite a bit of money right there.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
problem is this is still based on integrating
the AL and NL and eliminating the DH. Ain’t happening.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not right now but I bet
over the next 20 or 30 years the AL and NL move closer to becoming one huge league with more interleague games and stuff like that.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see that happening at all
the DH rule really does split baseball fans down the middle between “DH is a gimmick” “Pitchers batting is retarded”
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’m in the “DH removes strategy from the game” camp myself ;-)
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 1:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm on the fence about the DH, sort of
I think it’s a stupid gimmick and makes fake baseball (but makes Zach Greinke that much more impressive) but at the same time, teams that DON’T use a big hulking sloth as the DH intrigue me
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The system won't let me respond to your 3:58 comment so I'm responding down here
The advantage of having the best record in my system would be that you get to play the wild card winner. Right now that doesn’t mean anything but it would if the Wild Card winner had to do through the mess of other wild card teams. They would have had to burn their #1 and possibly #2 starter to get through that game(s). Now the team who was the best in the regular season should have a pitching advatage in almost every single game of the series.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that advantage already exists
Typically the WC is fighting till the end of the season anyhow and the #1 team has their rotation in order.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
It’s very rare for the Wild Card team to not have it clinched with a few days to go. Even the WC team battling to the last day does not guarantee that their rotation will be messed up. This will.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
end of the season meant kind of loosely
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think with interleague play,
the diminished importance of the All Star Game (Gimmicks are need to make it important now), free agency and players jumping from one league to another and the World Series not being about league pride to most fans anymore; you have already started to see the two leagues merge. I agree they are still clearly separated right now but look at where they were decades. The separation between them is disintegrating.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
basing this on what?
AL fans are smug and act superior, NL fans play the “Senior Circuit” card, I still see a pretty bigtime rift
That said the All-Star game “meaning something” is retarded anyhow. WS Home field should just alternate.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Think of how important Ted Willaims's HR was in the 41 All Star game
Players never used to change leagues. Fans used to root for their league in the World Series no matter who made it. You don’t see this anymore. I agree there is still a rift but things like this and interleague play are bringing the leagues closer.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
so do most people
unless there’s a geographic similarity
2008 was such a dilemma for me, I was torn between rooting for the NL and rooting for the Small Market-Home Grown team
06 I rooted for the Cards
05 the ‘Stros
04….I’ll admit the Sox, but there was history going on there
03 of course the Marlins
The mixed message boards I post on outside of here typically say stuff like “make the Sr. Circuit proud, alright?”
There’s a NL camaraderie and an AL camaraderie
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing we agree
We rooted for the same team every year. I was a little to the Rays in 08 but it was close.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I went with the rays
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The idea is to reward the teams who win the
divsion by not having to go through the one game eliminations. You also reward the team with the best record because they get to play a team who had to use their best starter in the wild card game. I think the team with the best record deserves this.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Credit for thinking out of the box
but I withdraw my earlier voice of support.
This would be to big of a change for a game that prides itself on history and traditions.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think the AL/NL stuff is dead
so I figure give up the battle and create new traditions. (Big divisions and having to win them is very traditional)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
how many Yankees fans are gonna want to get rid of the DH
or Seattle fans for that matter?
No way you see AL teams acquiesce to watching their lanky awkward fireballer flail at 3 straight fastballs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know it will never happen
It’s just my dream scenario
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As I said elsewhere (not sure if it's above or below)
I think the AL/NL stuff is being killed.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 4, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So we should go all reactionary and try to revive it!
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wait, does this make you in favor of the DH being implanted
in the NL?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
please, please, no.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
less of an implant and more like in Aliens with the facehuggers laying the DH in our chest cavity
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
whooops..typing fail..
implemented was the word….but I guess implanted works too lol
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 3:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No
Not at all. I want it eliminated everywhere.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay good, you had me worried there. :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In addition
Having three huge division would help baseball in general. There are so many Red Sox fans here in New England who could tell you everything there is to know abot the Yankees, O’s, Jays, and Rays but could care less about what’s going on in the NL because it doesn’t affect their team. (Even the AL Central and West are largely ignored by them) If you added the Philies, Mets, Marlins, Braves, and Nats into their division then all of a sudden you have great new rivals and fans who know about other teams and other players.
It’s good for the game people :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, man
It might just be too weird for me.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The wild card was sacrilege
when it was first introduced. Now everyone loves it.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Get rid of it, then
Lets go back to the two divisions within each league setup. Simple, brilliant. I don’t think any mediocre teams would make it in that scenario.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why not just have the 2 best teams in the league play in the WS
that’d make the season so much more meaningful
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, this is good.
In a nine-game series, too.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We were born a centry too late
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the way it was but
the problem is that it’s not as profitable for teams if most teams are out in September. You need the Wild card to keep more teams in the mix. I just don’t want it at the expense of winning the division meaning something. (in relation to the wild card)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this would water down divisional rivalry DURING the 162 game season
ooh I play X team like 6 times oooh big deals
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Then everyone would experience the pain we feel,
having no true division rivals.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No you would play your division rivals
12 times under my scenario.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah because red sox fans know anything
about non-yankees or sahhhx teams
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I doubt they could really tell you much about the Orioles.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They can tell you more about the O's
than all the teams in the NL east combined.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
so?
They’re in the AL!
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 12:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the point
Doubling the size of the divisions makes fans care about twice as many teams. They won’t say “oh the Phils are in the NL so they don’t matter” now they will have to focus on them because their team is fighting against them for a playoff spot. Plus Red Sox/Philly games would be must watch.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I don’t care about the Padres whatsoever. Even when they were decent I didn’t care about them. I’d rather follow teams I have a connection to.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't seriously tell me that you didn't care about the Pads in 2007
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
not until the last week or so of the season
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Who did you follow closely then?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Colorado
Arizona
Strangely enough, I seem to follow the Mets still, and I don’t really know why. Seattle as well.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the Mets must be
you can’t take you r eye off a train wreck sort of thing.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I really like Carlos Beltran
which is part of why I’m thinking I’ll be a huge Cargo fan
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
was this just denial?
you know like me with Hawpe :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 7:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I winning you over SDcat? :-)
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 7:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no, seriously
now that Peavy is gone, San Diego is just the vehicle that will move Adrian Gonzalez to Boston
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not after the Beltre signing
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a 1 year contract
oooh
next season, Beltre FA, Youkilis to 3B, Gonzalez to 1B.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So you think it's been delayed a year now?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
or it's a midseason acquisition
they have a pile of money dude, it’s not as if they can’t just do whatever the hell they want
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
I really shouldn’t measure them on an average scale. They can blow money and have it not matter.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Go post that on "OVER THE MONSTER"
I got sick of those people in about 30 minutes :-)
I surrender
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, that'd just be trolling
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OK lets take Rockie fans
Don’t you think the vast majority of fans (Not us because we watch all teams) would suddenly care a whole lot more about the Angels, A’s, Mariners, Rangers, and Astros if they were in our division?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're being facetious
Because many Rockies fans know nothing about other teams. I assume you know that. I get a little tired of the “No one knows about us and hates us” mantra that’s become commonplace among Rockies fans the last few years.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They know about NL west teams though right?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And the Rockies too now
They’re getting plenty of respect these days.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 12:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
While if you have a city that cares about a team
and that team has to beat nine other teams to win the division (that’s really important to win) that you generate a lot of interest in baseball.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that then
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think my point
Is that winning generates support, not divisional rivalries. People in Colorado are getting back into the Rockies now that they’re winning, and they’re getting more recognition from ESPN, etc. also. Maybe if there were more teams in the division, more Rockies fans would know more about more teams, but frankly, casual baseball fans will remain casual, and hardcore baseball fans already know a lot about all of the teams anyway.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I personally think casual fans know about their team and the teams in their division. IF this is correct, more teams in each division means more fans know and care about more teams.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
based on the responses I've seen from KYF
people in our division usually learn an awful lot from PF’s articles
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this post wins at life
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 3:33 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
^5
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 3:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As a casual fan myself
I only knew the Rockies for many years. Sure, I knew of the Dbacks, Dodgers, and Pads, but I didn’t KNOW them until I started frequenting this site this year. And honestly, I’d say that alone is transitioning me from casual to more hardcore.
Perhaps Rox fans are different due to our geographic isolation, but I’d wager that casual fans only know their team and what ESPN throws at them from the east.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 1:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it is different by reigion
because most casual fans around here know the division pretty well but could tell you nothing about the rest of the teams.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no, because the cynical casual fan
just figures that “oh big market team is gonna win” – it gives more leeway for the Yankees etc to take it by outspending the division
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true though
With more teams in the division the Braves would have made a run at the Yankees in 2003 and the Mets would have done the same in 2006.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're basically saying you want the NFL with baseball
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh
Having beaten the Banhammer, the wielder of the Warnslapper looks for a new challenge.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No
I want big divisions (NFL has small divisions) and fewer spots available in the playoffs. The part from the NFL I do like is that it keeps more teams alive later in the year. (That’s basically keeping what the wild card did)
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But to have a 162-game season
come down to a 1-game playoff or whatever is ridiculous. I understand it as a tiebreaker, but not as a “wild card round” or whatever. 1 game can just be too much of a fluke, especially in MLB.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Think of it this way
There are three levels. Right now we only have two (in playoffs or out of playoffs). Here you would have three teams in the playoffs, the three teams that performed the best over 162 games. You have 24 teams going home, and you have 3 teams on a newly created third level who weren’t good enough to be the three best but still get one last shot at the postseason. Yeah one game can be a fluke but that’s the point. It makes winning the division and the first 162 games so important.
Plus it would give MLB a lot of momentum going into the playoffs. The ratings for elimination games are huge.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
so why is the WC so much different
it’s typically decided by 1 game or so (the AL WC was something else this year) and creates nailbiters.
Also, in that “three teams in the first category” thing, it’s conceivable that a division winner could still be mediocre and/or terrible, for example, the ’91 Jays or the ’90 Red Sox.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I love that part of the wild card and I want to keep it
The Wild card looking down would not be that much different. The wild card looking up (WC vs Division winner) would be very different. That’s where I want to create the difference and make the regular season games matter more.
The wild card has two sides to it for me.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
they would because PF's articles would force them to
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota was the 4th best team in the AL and the best in the ALC
what exactly is wrong with them making the postseason
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing really wrong
I just don’t like it when teams who have a win total in the mid 80’s make the playoffs. I just don’t think it’s fair that one team can win 103 games and then an 80some win team can knock them out in five games.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
they were the 4th best though
Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Twins, Tigers, Rays
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I just hate mediocre teams in the playoffs
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the twins are pretty mediocre
but given a division with really strong competition, an 87 win team may be better than the win total would suggest
90+ win teams in 2009
Yankees
Red Sox
Angels
Phillies
Cards
Dodgers
Rockies
that’s a lot of mediocre left over
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you say the same if it was the Rox making the playoffs with 80+wins :)?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I’d almost feel bad to be there
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
until we win the WS coming in as an 80+ win team :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
much as I disagree with you
this discussion goes far beyond the Rockies
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I mean I don’t think the Cards deserved a shot at it with their 83 wins in 06
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that was bizarre as hell
kind of plays to the “momentum is only as good as tomorrow’s starter”
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And getting to face the Mets in the NLCS
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lol looking
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In game 2 of that series the
Mets radio announcer said the “Cards are roadkill”
Oops
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Las vegas would never work
and adding two teams seems like it would water down the talent level
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
by Resolution on Jan 4, 2010 10:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And the talent
level isn’t already watered down?
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 10:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
water down more?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
by Resolution on Jan 4, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If the talent level is so watered down how come nobody hits .400 anymore?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Because
the guys aren’t being encouraged to be better at baseball.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you shut up too
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Make me.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh...
Dictator vs. Underling
Which will emerge victorious, the Banhammer or the Warnslapper?
Stay tuned for our next installment.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I can at least warn you, can't I?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Only way to find out is to do it.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
done and done
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Never do that again.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
WOO HOO
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Banned for gloating.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll miss you, RMN!
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just I was starting to really like that guy...
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Jan 4, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
2 minutes russ
it was 2 minutes
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it'd expand scouting
bring more international players in, encourage kids to do better at baseball, I dunno
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Its definitely possible
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
by Resolution on Jan 4, 2010 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
International draft?
How do you encourage kids to do better at baseball, like encouraging them not to do drugs?
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
stuff like the RBI program
African Americans don’t play baseball anymore (relative to basketball and foobal), that’s a massive talent pool that MLB is missing out on.
Italian baseball is getting better as well
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Is the foobal intentional?
Or are you just struggling?
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
FOOBAL
ITS SUNDA WE WACH FOOBAL
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
But its Monday now.
Monday night. Best. Weeknight. etc.
I hate Coors adds
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
IS MONDA
MONDANIGTHFOOBAL
YOU CANT GET AWAY FROM FOOBAL
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tusday Night. Not. So much.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ERRRDAY FOOBAL
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
FOOBAL
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
also: NFL
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think that's a fair comparison
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
by Resolution on Jan 4, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it's one country one game so that's where the talent comes from
but MLB has the cream of the crop from every country except Cuba, Japan, Korea, and I guess a few that don’t play baseball.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with North and South divisions is that they cross many time zones.
If I were to divide a 32 team league equally into eight four team divisions, I’d have a “West”, “Midwest”, “Central”, and “East” division setup.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just blatantly modeling it after the NFL
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Plagiarism alert :-)
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're going to move a team to the AL
why not just move the Astros to the AL West instead of making two switches? (Astros to the NL West and either Arizona or San Diego moving to the AL) If Houston is far enough west to be in the NL west then it’s far enough west to be in the AL west. Plus you would create a nice in state rivalry with the Rangers. No need to mess with the NL west if you don’t have to.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:15 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
You might have answered your own question
There’s a reason the Yankees and Mets, Giants and A’s, Dodgers and Angels, Cubs and White Sox, Marlins and Rays, and the Indians and Reds are all in opposite leagues
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And Royals/Cards
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah there's a big rivalry
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just you watch.
The biggest rivalry of this coming decade.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 9:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well certainly not now
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more snickering at the relative strength of the teams
Zach Greinke vs the St. Louis Cardinals
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand why you wouldn't want those rivals though
Every time these teams play each other in interleague attendance goes way up.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd argue it loses its mystique if it's just a regular part of the season
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Red Sox/Yankees, Phillies/Mets, Dodgers/Giants, and Cubs/Cards are all rivals and the rivalry between those teams is not diminished because they play a lot.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN ensures that is the case
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 9:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Attendance supports the case too though
I agree ESPN pumps it up even more but fans flock to these games no matter how many times these teams play.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
division rivalries and regional rivalries are very different
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well putting them in the same division
makes them division and regional rivals so how can you go wrong?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
who again is our natural rival?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Florida?
Arizona!? Kansas city…
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 10:03 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I "feel" rivaled most by Arizona and Florida.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 10:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought the DBacks
would be a great rival for the Rockies because it’s relatively close and they’re a younger team. It can’t really take hold unless both teams are contending at the same time over a couple seasons, I thought the 2007 postseason was a good start.
by phishbate on Jan 4, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea
We’re one of the few teams it doesn’t work for.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
therefore it doesn't work because we're the only team that matters
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody loves us so much that nobody wants to be our rival
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah we'll go with that
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody loves us so much No one knows where we are that nobody wants to be our rival
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
better than i could've put it
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But there aren't any cities in Colorado!
Where could the team be?
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 10:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
The Phototshop job is rather poor, but it gets a B on the strength of the humor.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
your photoshop on the other hand is great
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Superb, in fact
You should see the one where I turned myself into a fish. It was disturbing.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He was making fun of your spelling
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no I wasn't
I’m saying “hey dude it’s not like you posted anything funny, probably not the best idea to be a dick to someone who at least contributed”
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think he was being a dick!
And I just found it on the internet. I think hamsters are cute, and hamsters that play baseball? Oh boy.
by biondino on Jan 4, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
photoshop criticism strikes deep nerves with me
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hoped
this was the case. I assumed you found it on the internet, and only realized afterward that I might have been dickish.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And I repiled
With a hopefully redeeming display of self-depreciating sarcasm. The fish thing really was creepy, though.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Atlanta used to be in the NL West.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was 6 and though that was stupid
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
precisely
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just remember though
MLB is not alone when it comes to stupidity with geography. The NFL thinks Dallas is on the east coast.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit has various pro teams
In the west, central and eastern conference/division
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 9:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Which throws more support to the way the NHL used to do it.
No geography in the divisions, just name them after people. Rockies could be in the NL Smythe.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jan 4, 2010 9:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I really miss that
they should bring that back, it’s better than the Northwest Division
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone heard details on the Olivo signing?
I haven’t read any contract info yet
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 9:32 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
if we don't sign him, I'm going to
I’ll pay him to hit baseballs at wasps’ nests
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
though this is a detail
not quite what I was looking for….
oh.
/punch
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 9:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
everyone's welcome to come to my bbq/waspkilling
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bring the potato salad
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
details once I've reached terms with Olivo
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I will wait for the details then
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to post something on the graph site, but it didn't work.
I was agreeing with RMN about correlation not being causation.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:02 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
it may have, it takes a bit for it to load
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it kept saying that I hadn't entered a name.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh that's weird
well whatever, trying to model SLG as a function of OBP is kind of stupid. OPS on the other hand might make sense, but SLG is like the opposite of OBP (well technically an out is the opposite but you see what I mean)
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just for the record
Andre Dawson, not Andrew.
Dawson was one of my favorites & truly deserves the HOF. Ruined knees from playing on horrible artificial turf in Montreal cost him at least 2 years of stats. For a number of
years, he was the best all-around player in the game.
New decade, new result: time for a Rockies' division championship.
by Maris6161 on Jan 4, 2010 11:44 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Typo
on my part. Too hard to fix it mobilely.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 11:47 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Southwest Airlines has $59 tickets from Denver to Tucson in March
anyone want to join me, split a rental car for a weekend? C’mon…
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 11:56 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
ill be there for nine days
So it is cheaper for me to just drive but maybe ill are you there
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 12:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I was considering going, but it doesn't look like that'll be happening.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe next year for the opening of the new complex.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never been to Hi Corbett
I want to see the site of Major League before they tear it down
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by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 1:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it sucks as compared to TEP I'm afraid to say
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
TEP is nice
it is a lot cleaner and more fan friendly. I don’t know if the access to the back fields is as good as Hi Corbett though. I’ve been to both a few times and the only time TEP was ever bad we were attacked by a swarm of bees and the game was called in the 4th inning or something like that.
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a good point, you like the back fields
I like the ballpark more, better shade, concessions, and it’s an open concourse
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I really like TEP
as a ball park. I kind of wish Security Service was set up that way, you can walk all the way around the stadium. I hate getting up in the middle of a game at Hi Corbett because no matter where I go I can’t see the game unless I’m in front of someone.
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it needs a massive renovation
their seats aren’t very friendly
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I will be there for a few days
but it looks like we are going to drive down
by arpagamos on Jan 4, 2010 1:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
When are people planning on being there?
March 14-20 for me (or in that time frame somewhere).
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
probably March 11-14 for me
I’m attempting SXSW in Austin this year, so that eliminates the weekend of the 20th
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys who are out at ST should give ST reports to the blog...
… as well as appear on the Podcast, which will be up and running by then.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I plan on it
and the posts won’t be nearly as long as last year (for me anyway).
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 2:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I loved your posts from last year!
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
bringing my video camera with me
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
alright i’m in the clubhouse now hiding under a pile of towels
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
grabs a jersey and makes a run for it when no one is looking
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
is it baseball season yet?? lol
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 4, 2010 12:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like I scared everyone away with my radical playoff scenario
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I went to lunch
because you know i did
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you went to lunch
or I know you scared everyone away?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
both actually
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Holiday
I didn’t read all of the posts, but has anyone commented on his rumored 120 million over seven with the Cards?
by arpagamos on Jan 4, 2010 12:45 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It was commented on a couple of days ago
When it was first rumored. Most here were pretty upset at Boras.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 12:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope we havn't gone there yet
I heard they might go less years more money though because he wants more money per year than what the Rockies offered. At this point I thinks he’s just saving face.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a more firm rumor that I haven't heard?
Because this came up last week.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the latest report I’ve heard
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 12:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was just a guess by Fox Sports
that figure was higher than anything I had heard before
by arpagamos on Jan 4, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen 120 over 7, 140 over 8
“a deal worth 98M”, and all sorts of other stuff
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you do palm readings too?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoah!
New Sig!
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
groan
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to admit it creates
vibrant baseball discussion on an otherwise dead day.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Having 3 teams per league just doesn't work
It has to be an even number in each, or else just 1.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not three teams it's four
Just the divisions are bigger and harder to win and the wild card had to go through single elimination to get there.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to ban you now
.
.
(I’m kidding)
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It will be a quiet day on the Row tomorrow then won't it
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nah I'll have a one man show
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
/makes popcorn
/prepares to get punched
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 2:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What image host do you guys suggest for this site?
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 1:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
tinypic
thanks for asking
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys might find this interesting
I tried to determine the relationship between Winning percentage and payroll.
Data for winning percentage is from baseball reference; data for payrolls is from baseball chronology.
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by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Oops, turned out super tiny.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know a way for this to not be super tiny?
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They look fine for me.
I can read them.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
uhhhh
just link us to the actual pictures, I have no idea what you did
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that or enzyte
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a way I could just give you the very confusing spreadsheet I used to make them?
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nnnnope
do screenshots of each of the graphs, that should help
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know how to do screenshots either.
I am a technology retard.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
PC or Mac?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
PC
I’m going to try that one thing that controlled_slide did with the brackets. I think.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
try that
if it doesn’t work, to take a screenshot, you hit the “print screen” button (yep, that’s what it’s for!) and then open Paint and then go Edit-Paste and crop out what you don’t need. Save as a .png so the color doesn’t go all wonky.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
try this http://www.mediafire.com/?inzmmxxyu2j
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nono I'm not going to do this for you I'm sorry
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I made a powerpoint if you like that better. It was originally designed for a school project, so it still has some pointless animations that I was required to include, but delivers the information in a more comprehensible manner.
http://www.mediafire.com/?inzmmxxyu2j
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no, I'm saying pull the graph up on your own screen
in a good, viewable size
hit “Print Screen”
Open “Paint”
Paste
Crop
Save as .PNG
Re-host
Post
???
Profit
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how that will help
The images above were readable until I posted them.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Also I tire of all this
just look at the ones above and squint real hard.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Jan 4, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
or hold down the Ctrl button and scroll up on the mouse wheel
that makes the font bigger
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of thr 15/15 team schedule, I'm curious to see what it would do.
I think I will try drawing up a hypothetical schedule for this.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 2:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
no you're not part of that couple who did them for like 20 years
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
18 interleague games per team still?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be the goal, just spread way out.
I’m beginning to work on it now. I have NO idea if this task is reasonable or not. We’ll see.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a guess
It’s not at all reasonable.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 4:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, initial schedule breakdown is up.
Assuming we keep 3 series per division home and away, one per league outside division home and away, and the current 3 series of interleague home and away, that adds up to a total of 150 games (assuming 3 per series). More games in certain series, more division, or more interleague could be added to get to 162 (plus I don’t know yet if all the interleague would conveniently add up), but 150 is a reasonable number.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 4:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just generated a random Rockies schedule using this format.
It’s hilarious. It’s flawed as hell, but not because of the format, simply because of my randomizing software. In the final 8 series, we play the Dodgers five different series, and twice we’re listed as playing them back to back (for six straight games). Wasn’t able to program that into the instructions.
by WolfMarauder on Jan 4, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That almost this year's schedule
Maybe MLB uses the same software that you do
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Completely off topic but I don't care
Soundgarden is back together! Everyone dance in the streets!
2010 is already an amazing year
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 2:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I have to go I'll be back later
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 2:50 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
My birthday tomorrow!!
I turn 18 and maybe my posts will be taken seriously here then :P Lol.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:09 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
remember to smoke, chew, gamble, vote
and change your sig
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 3:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And drink alco... oh hang on. Well, hop on a flight to the UK and I'll buy you legal beerz :)
by biondino on Jan 4, 2010 3:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha
Wanna hear something bad? I’ve never even been out of my state :( Ughh I SO want to travel!!
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hey now..no judging....he's only 17!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
true
never much money in my family either. We took road trips as our vacation.
I have 7 states left before I have visited all 50. Hopefully I finish in the next couple of years
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 3:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but we can't even do vacations.
Ah, all’s well. No pity for me, I’m happy and that’s all that matters.
And well, the future’s bright.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, not much money in the family.
But I’m going to college soon and I get to start my own life. WOOT
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
where are you thinking of going?
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I applied to
UCLA, Berkeley, Irvine, with Irvine being my backup (they already accepted me). I hear about my acceptances to Cal, UCLA in March. My preference is Cal but UCLA is awesome.
Want to hear something awesome? My family is very impoverished and really couldn’t afford to even pay my application fees to those 3 schools so my chemistry teacher paid for them. Some awesome man I tell you. $180 out of the pocket. Something to remember right there.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay, your life
sounds like the makings of a great movie!! seriously!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 3:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you?
Haha cat gotta love ya
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm serious!
you seem like a genuinely decent young man, facing alot of adversity, working as hard as you can to get ahead. So much so that your teachers are willing to help you financially. And you graduate from Berkeley Magna cum Laude with a double major in law and medicine and return to your hometown to pay back the community!
I’m working on the screenplay right now :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha wow that ending would be amazing.
And honestly, something I’ve put on my dream “To-Do” list. When my chem teacher paid the fees, he told me straight out “I don’t want you to repay me. Instead, take this deed and remember it and do something like this in the future for somebody else.” (well, that was it essentially)
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That is an amazing teacher!
And those are all great schools, congrats!
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 3:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
yeah one of a kind teacher. it’s those little deeds like that that need to examples for people around the world.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thats awesome
I was in fort Collins schools until the end of junior high, when my parents moved out to farm country near Greeley. My eighth grade band, geometry and science teacher each talked and told my parents I could live with any of the three of them to keep me in the system. As it was, I was hot permitted to and thus suffered a 2-3 year regression academically. Those teachers permanently implanted themselves in my good graces though
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 4:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty amazing.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 4:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome
What are you planning on studying?
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 5:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Planning on becoming a pharmacist :)
But I’m open to anything so we’ll see.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 8:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That story is so heart warming
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hope you get the chance to soon!
The world is awesome.
by biondino on Jan 4, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Without a doubt.
Can’t wait to see it.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this is true despite what the news would lead you to believe
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Living in Europe is awesome for the travel
Hopefully tomorrow I’ll be booking a trip to a country I’ve not yet visited, Finland – the gf and I are going to stay in a gorgeous hotel in the middle of Helsinki in February. We’ll be buying thermal underwear first, though!
by biondino on Jan 4, 2010 3:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha.
Wow Finland. Make sure you tell us how it goes!!
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it's so easy to go between countries once you are out there
I am trying to plan my next trip, go back to Spain or Italy and then hop around for awhile after that. I need a new job to fund my dream of being an itinerant…
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I really would love to go to Europe
and Greece..England etc.
I’ve been to Mexico, Canada, Japan(does a layover at Tokyo count) and Singapore.
Crazy thing is I’ve never been to the northeast US. Someday
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
once you shell out the $500 for a cheap ticket to London or Madrid
the rest of the trip is remarkably cheap, to be honest. You can find fairly cheap places to eat and sleep, and the travel between countries is ridiculous. I flew from England to Italy for less than $80 and from Spain to Ireland for less than $50.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Jan 4, 2010 3:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nice!!!
gotta get that pesky passport renewed…
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i flew from Budapest to London for $40
But the train between gatwick and heathrow was $75
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 4:20 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Love me some...
Squeezyjet! I went to Barcelona from Gatwick on pocket change and a Pepsi can.
by Since1993 on Jan 4, 2010 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think a layover counts.
At least, that’s why Texas is not on my list of states visited, even though I once had a layover in Dallas.
by holly96 on Jan 4, 2010 4:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You need to get to the Southeast
I spent 20 months working in Charleston, SC. Loved it.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 4:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bunch of damn secessionists!
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, when Robert E. Lee
emerges from his grave. They’re still waiting for that one.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I can save you the trouble of visiting
Alabama and Mississippi. I did it so you don’t have to.
by Since1993 on Jan 4, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then you must not have gotten to the I-85 part of the south
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay so what do the colors mean?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As one of my goals is to visit all 50 states
Airports DO NOT COUNT! they are like neutral territory. They are look an embassy in foreign countries.
by Redhawk on Jan 4, 2010 10:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if my ex has put her PhD online?
Wow – She actually has, the chapter about airport spaces! I doubt anyone’s actually interested but if so, it’s linked here
by biondino on Jan 5, 2010 4:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I have a passport I've never used.
It’s a total bummer. I have been to Canada, but that was before you needed a passport.
by holly96 on Jan 4, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You could always just take BART to Bay Fair or Hayward...
and flash your passport to the guy in the booth just to see what happens. At least you will have used it.
by Since1993 on Jan 4, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I must say...I was excited to get a stamp in it...
wow…that’s just sad…lol
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is completely full from my studying abroad
I need to get new pages added
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 7:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
I spent four months studying abroad in Hungary. Due to the low cost of living there, I was able to travel to about twelve countries for about the same cost as staying in the US and going to school, and I still got 17 credits out of it :)
Finland wasn’t one of my destinations. But I became very good friends with four Finns. Strangely, they seemed to be more compatible with Americans than any of the other countries. They are also all professional drinkers at birth
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 4:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Could the common bond, be .....alcohol?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
The czechs, Germans and Hungarians certainly do that as well quite a bit, so I’m not sure that’s it :)
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 4:54 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
they were just following a policy of Finlandization with an American around.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yeah.
Not the smoking, chewing or gambling parts but yeah everything else I’m on board :P Lol
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 3:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good news
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 4:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I approve of this news
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 4:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Chien-Ming Wang is supposedly more healthy than expected
Supposedly will begin throwing off a mound in 6-8 weeks.
by Hizilla on Jan 4, 2010 4:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it.
To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 4, 2010 5:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you want the Rockies to sign Wang?
I can’t tell.
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by Russ Oates on Jan 4, 2010 5:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know man
maybe he does, I can’t tell either
Purple Row: Take this personally
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
article posted
Purple Row: Take this personally
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 4:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I miss baseball.
As in, REALLY miss baseball, dammit.
Saved by the buoyancy of citrus.
by coolopotamus on Jan 4, 2010 5:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere up there RMN made a comment about the Red Sox 88 win
division title and the Blue Jays 91 win division title. While I think they are fair examples, those divisions had 7 teams intead of 10 so it’s not a straight up comparison. Basically the more teams you have in your division the better the team that wins the division is liklely to be. Also those are not as bad as the Cards 83 win world series in 06.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 6:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
What's so bad about a Cinderella story?
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 6:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with a Cinderella story love them is fact
I just think the didn’t really deserve to be there.
Think about this for a Cinderella story. A team battles down the stretch in September to win the last of three available wildcard spots, goes on the road and wins two single elimination wild card games, turns around and knocks off the team with the best record in baseball in a 7 game series and then wins the Worlds Series. That would be an all time magic carpit ride/ Cinderella story.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 6:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What if that team that battles down the stretch to win the 3rd WC spot
Is a 83 or 84 win team? Did they deserve to be there? Either scenario, there is going to be that possibility.
I just don’t think winning single game playoffs (in baseball where everyone wins 60 and loses 60) will validate any of that.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 8:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Last season...
Washington Natinals: 59-103
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 4, 2010 8:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And I bet
That they could’ve beaten the Yankees in a one game playoff if given a chance.
Especially considering they beat them twice during interleague.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 8:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They could have
Hell they beat the Yankees two out of three in June. Fortunately they will never have a chance in any playoff system.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 8:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
any given sunday applies to baseball as well
Purple Row: Take this personally
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify my point a bit after rereading my post
It just seems like you’re trying to make a system where everyone in the playoffs “deserves” to be there. Well, it sounds like anyone from the wild card doesn’t deserve it, hence the advantages you have given to the division winners. They get to rest and setup their rotations, as well as home field.
The great thing about playoffs is that they’re a clean slate, and everyone who qualifies is inherently deserving of being there.
However, if you REALLY want a fair playoff system, forget divisions. Simply take the top teams by record, rank them accordingly, and let em play. Forget the whole division/wild card nonsense.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 8:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the problem I have with the current formula
The wild cards only make up 25% of the teams in the playoffs and they are winning pennants and World Series at a greater than 25% clip. I want something to lower that number to about 10% or 15% to reward the teams who were the best all season. Otherwise why does it matter if you win the division instead of the wild card?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 8:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
15 Seasons with the wild card
4 wild card teams have won the series. If no wild card team wins next year, that’s 25% exactly.
I guess my issue is the importance placed on winning the division.
Rockies would’ve won the AL Central last year. Heck, so would’ve the Giants.
In 2005, the Padres won the west with 82 wins.
Toronto has very little chance against the Yanks and Red Sox in the AL East.
There’s no consistency, no fair measuring stick, between the different divisions.
I’d prefer they take the top 4 teams, regardless of divisions, and heck, do anyway with divisions entirely. Not only then would you have to play well all year, teams that happen to have terrible teams in their division won’t get a gift wrapped playoff spot.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd go for that
But as far as the Wild card percent goes I still think 25% is too high. That shows they are at no disadvantage. (and that’s if they don’t win next year)
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And I don't think there should be a disadvantage
Just look at it as a top 4 team playoff. You’d expect 25% from each seed in a unbiased setting. I’d say baseball has done a remarkable job in having a level playing field.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Jan 4, 2010 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
that makes no sense at all, if the Division Leaders who were so good deserve it so much, they should be able to stomp the up and coming wild cards!
It sounds like you really just want things to go back to best single season records = WS
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
While they often don't because with a SSS (5 or 7 games)
they can get picked off by a weaker team.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and that's how Playoffs work in every sport
the best team doesn’t always win
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball is the most unpredictable though because
anyone really can beat anyone else. I mean other sports have teams in the playoffs that need nothing short of a miricle to win it all.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and you're trying to eliminate that
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The WC system gives hope to the 20 or so lesser teams who will seldom win the division
It may mean a lesser team makes it to the WS but do you honestly want to see the Yanks/Sox/Cubs/Phillies etc. etc there every single year?
by biondino on Jan 5, 2010 4:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs in the World series every other year
LMAO
I surrender
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well yes, that's exactly it.
NOW it seems ridiculous. But the more power you give to the big clubs, the more they’ll dominate. I want to see the Rox and the Rays make the world series, dammit – only wanting the Yanks to lose made this one interesting, and I’d much rather have a positive reason for following it.
by biondino on Jan 5, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh it changes every year
I mean in 2008 the Rays were able to beat both the Red Sox and the Yankees to win the division and in 2007 the Cleveland Indians were tied for the best record in baseball. Small market teams can put together 162 game seasons better than the big money clubs. It’s just rare. I don’t think it would change that much.
Oh and the Cubs would still blow it no matter what :-)
I surrender
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 5, 2010 9:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
similar to the '06 Cards
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a pretty fair comparison though
and still, your WC scenario can easily set up a ’06 Cards scenario as well
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No because you have 27 teams going for 3 wild cards
No way an 83 win team gets in. The lowest I could find was 88.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
there are years where the wins are not evenly distributed
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
For that to happen you would basically need 24 teams to go .500 or worse.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Who does everyone have in the Fiesta bowl?
I kind of want TCU to win for MWC pride, but I can’t go against BSU since the ’07 Fiesta bowl.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 6:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Boise
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 6:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
TCU
purely from a gambling perspective…
by Hizilla on Jan 4, 2010 6:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely want TCU for MWC purposes
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 4, 2010 7:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
BSU
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 7:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why do you hate me..:(
you know i’m thinking i’m going add a line to my sig….just for you :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 8:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i was just kidding about the hate part :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 8:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you can go to hell
go boise
screw the bcs
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nope
but I love underdogs that piss off the big markets
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
that either team can be considered an underdog here…I don’t get it…
by Hizilla on Jan 4, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Boise St?
Come on man, none of the big schools will play them because they know they’re gonna get beaten by a weak pitiful MtW team and that just looks horrible for all that history and bull
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They're a WAC team
And they’ve had, what, 3 straight undefeated regular seasons?
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 9:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wac, right
and? How much recognition has it REALLY gotten them?
this is me rooting for the Rays
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
True story
They’re still sort of underdogs. But not like ’07.
by controlled_slide on Jan 4, 2010 9:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My point was that
both teams here were undefeated from small conferences – so there isn’t really an underdog in this game.
by Hizilla on Jan 4, 2010 9:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i do like underdogs (IN A BIGGER SENSE THAN JUST THIS GAME)
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally read that as "Hitting on SDCat since 2009" which I suspect may be more accurate ;)
by biondino on Jan 5, 2010 4:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OH HO
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 5, 2010 9:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
o_O
I do not approve of either of these sentiments….
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 5, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh it's just meant to be like a
“OH WELL WHAT DO WE HAVE HEAR LOOK WHAT WE HAVE UNCOVERED GOOD SIR”
Purple Row: Take this personally
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 5, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh I know! i'm just playing along
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 5, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
just clarifying that I wasn't calling anyone a hooker
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 5, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh lord I didn't really think you were doing that
I mean I know you say alot of CRAZY things..but I know you wouldn’t go that far…lol
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 5, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
IAWTC
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that they put these two teams against each other
instead of letting them have a chance to beat an SEC team or somebody from another big conference
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 7:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How can you guys root against purple!?!?!?!?!?
TCU for their colors ;)
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Jan 4, 2010 8:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting for the SmurfTurf boys
and I will always love them for beating OK in the BEST GAME EVER!!!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 8:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm cool with BSU for that game.
But they’re fans have gotten pretty irritating since, and I HATE that stupid field.
by holly96 on Jan 4, 2010 10:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
also, LT is TCU grad so that kind of chaps my hide...
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 8:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LT while being a Charger
is a pretty classy guy, hard to dislike him.
by Hizilla on Jan 4, 2010 8:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
living in San Diego
LT became a whiner in the past few seasons and it changed my perception of him quite a bit. He does good things in the community, like most players do these days, but I lost some respect for him.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Jan 4, 2010 8:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the Red Sox just gave
Adrian Beltre a contract worth a guaranteed $10 million.
I don’t get this move at all.
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 6:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I mean the guy has only
hit over .290 on and he’s only had an OPS over .835 once. I am missing something?
Plus they already signed Mike Careron to a two year deal. They should have just signed Holliday instead of committing about 17 million dollars to these two players this year. What a bunch of idiots. hehehe
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 6:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
on once
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 6:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a 1 year thing, they want to see where else the market goes
Cameron is coming off of 2 consecutive 4-win seasons, he plays elite defense in CF, and that’ll get Jacoby Ellsbury and his complete lack of being able to properly read a fly ball into somewhere less hazardous, like LF.
Adrian Beltre isn’t a superb bat, but he’s the best defensive 3B in baseball (yes, you can make cases for Zimmerman and Feliz and I won’t dispute them), and he’s worth the money they’re paying him.
They want to save the Holliday money for extending Adrian Gonzalez
Purple Row: Take this personally
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's gonna be one crowded infield
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and they can do it!
They’ll play splits between AGone, Youk, and Beltre, and Beltre can always be a late inning guy as well.
He’s trying to reestablish a bat, and I think Fenway will help that
Purple Row: Take this personally
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Jan 4, 2010 9:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So where does Lowell go?
Say yes to 10 teams in a division and 6 teams in the playoffs.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 9:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs