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I like this Pen


   The way this year's pen is setting up inspires a lot of confidence. The resigning of Betancourt was a great move and it looks like we will resign Street as well. If all goes well Buchholz will be ready to go sooner than later. He was sensational in 08 with an ERA 2.17 and a WHIP below 1.00. He can throw in the mid 90s and drops a curve ball as confidently as Tiger drops his pants. If he is able to return to form the Rockies may have one of the most solid back ends in the league! A big if for a guy coming off major surgery and who hasn't pitched in a while but something to hope for.

  In addition to Taylor Buchholz we can look forward to strong potential from Manny Corpas. Although Manny has not returned to the dominant presence we saw from him in 2007 I'm not giving up hope that he can reemerge as a staple in the Rockies pen. 

  Matt Daley, well nothing about him really makes me feel comfortable as a Rockies fan. He's not flashy, he doesn't throw hard and he doesn't have an arsenal of pitches. He induces way too many fly balls for a guy pitching in Coor's field. Despite all of that he worked out well for the Rockies last year so I am interested to see where it goes from here. One thing you have to love about the guy is that he throws strikes which is more than we can say for...

  Franklin Morales. Going into last year I wondered if he could keep his head in the game well enough to get the job done. I came out of last year in agreement with my initial thoughts. He has great stuff no doubt about it. A great fastball with downward plane and curve ball that completely freezes batters and ends up in the strike zone. Despite the fact that he did it well while filling in for Huston I still don't think he has the mental game down well enough to put the game in his hands. I'll go with him for a left on left situation but I don't think I could stand to watch him walk the bases loaded all year.

   I like this bullpen more than in years past because it seems as if it is based around mostly young players with great potential as opposed to years past where it was built around veterans who were well past their prime but you knew what you were gonna get out of them. The few gaps that remain in the pen would be another lefty which looks like it could be Joe Beimel or Randy Flores. There's talk of trying to resign Jose Contreras for the long reliever which I like but can we afford that?? We might also be able to look forward to appearances from Craig Baker and some other youngsters coming up.

   All that said, what appears to be a strong pen can strengthen the whole teams approach and give Tracy some great flexibility. There is an array of tools in there that will be great for specific match ups and will take major pressure off of the starting pitching.

Eat. Drink. Be Merry. But the above FanPost does not necessarily reflect the attitudes, opinions, or views of Purple Row's staff (unless, of course, it's written by the staff [and even then, it still might not]).

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what's not flashy about a 9.71 K/9

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 6, 2010 2:55 PM MST reply actions  

You know exaclty what I mean

he’s not gonna come out of the pen and dominate, but he gets it done and that’s what I like about him.

by BringItHome on Jan 6, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he could be pretty wicked given the opportunity

and I’m basing that off of blatant fanboyism. I love Matt Daley. You’d best watch yourself. I will disagree with you so completely.

(yeah there’s a better chance he’s mediocre-to-decent but I loved his first year so much I refuse to let it go)

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 6, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions  

No I'm with you

I think I came across wrong. I really really like him. I looked forward to every time was called out because I felt he was going to get us out of the situation. All I meant is that you wouldn’t expect him to dominate but he finds a way to throw the batters off which is all he needs to do. I’m interested to see him perform this year.

by BringItHome on Jan 6, 2010 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I agre with this post

our pen should be an absolute strength of the team , with several solid options as backups

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Jan 6, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree with you on Daley

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 6, 2010 8:24 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah that came to mind too

good work

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 6, 2010 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I like THIS pen.

Bored. Lazy. Crazy. Screaming. Counting. Another day in the life of a Rockaholic.

by prettyinpurple on Jan 6, 2010 4:23 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

this

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie!
Yorvit Torrealba-Thank you for your clutchiness, en fuegoness and 2 point take down of Matt Kemp!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Jan 8, 2010 2:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey just a tip

we tend to encourage new users to participate in the article commentary before going all-out on fanposts. Yours are pretty decent, not just RAGHAGHGRHARFHG DAMN CHIPPFORTS SIGN HOLIDAY BARMES SUCKS RAHHHH like we’ve seen before (or even worse, talking down to us as if we don’t know our own team) – but a lot of what you’re writing has been covered between article commentary by writers and other users, so you might not get as much conversation in your Fanpost as you’d like. Same thing happened to me when I gave a rundown on the 2006 roster – I might’ve gotten like 1 comment on that.

I’d let these sit a bit, let people read them, and in the meantime, come talk about other stuff in the frontpage articles – they tend to get entertainingly offtopic sometimes and other times it’s firey baseball conversation where RhodeIslandRocks is wrong and I’m right and there’s clearly no middle ground whatsoever. I mean, good conversation.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 6, 2010 4:20 PM MST reply actions  

That one comment thing must have been pretty disappointing

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf." - Tug McGraw after being asked if he liked grass or Astroturf better.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 6, 2010 7:26 PM MST up reply actions  

well, it was a topic that had been discussed ad nauseum I'm sure

and I hadn’t been reading the site regularly, so I assumed what I’d post would be well received (I posted the same thing on a general baseball board and they were all like “whoah a rockies fan”) and it wasn’t like shot down, but it was pretty pointless.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 7, 2010 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

When was I ever wrong? :-)

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf." - Tug McGraw after being asked if he liked grass or Astroturf better.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 6, 2010 7:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey, Shut Up!

You need to READ and LEARN, not question what I’ve seen!
You and your **** reply link

Foxes are naughties

by crazedjohn on Jan 7, 2010 4:25 PM MST up reply actions  

"f your reply link"

That was the best part. Just deliberately being belligerent. Can’t stop smiling about that guy.

by Roberbola on Jan 7, 2010 6:07 PM MST up reply actions  

meh

Don’t let RMN bully you – I know he is “staff” and all but I liked your post and your take, and agree that the makeup of the bull pen is unique compared to past years. This is an insight that I haven’t seen elsewhere on this site, not recently anyway.

I’m not sure why we’ve got a bias against new people here, I think a fresh take adds value more than just a rehash full of inside jokes.

I do disagree about Daley, I’m certainly more comfortable with him on the mound than Morales. He can come in and get the strikeout when needed, which is a valuable component to a bullpen. He’s no stud but as a 4th or 5th guy in the bullpen he is a nice luxury.

by Roberbola on Jan 6, 2010 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm not bullying...

I thought that was friendly

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 6, 2010 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Just because you say it nicely...

I don’t know why we are trying to discourage new people from sharing their thoughts, especially when they are well constructed and logical. Not every post has to contain advanced metrics and inside jokes to be valuable.

by Roberbola on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Just to prevent some of the more aggresive sharks

We have had some people earlier this year come and try and dominate the community by blasting their opinions over the FanPosts without contributing much else. It really only created a lot of anger and frustration and didn’t add anything to the conversation. Although if every new poster could write and think like BringItHome I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

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by RockiesDave on Jan 7, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree with this sentiment

The issue is that most fanpost authors don’t take the time to make their writing good or at the very least well-thought out, as BringItHome has done.

That said, we want to keep the people who can eloquently articulate their musings, and we want them to become part of the community. FanPosts are their own little islands off of the mainland, and most conversation occurs in the RockPiles. Creative thinkers who know the team make RockPile conversation that much better. Hell, it can make the offtopic RockPile conversation better, too.

NEW PEOPLE COME TALK IN ROCKPILES BECAUSE IT’S WHERE THE FUN IS

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 7, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

That said

I don’t thing Bringithome said “that said” enough.

by biondino on Jan 7, 2010 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

ain't that the friggin truth

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 7, 2010 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I never said that advanced metrics and inside jokes are the only source of value

and to put those words in my mouth is foolish. I never once said “don’t share your thoughts”, I said “come share your thoughts in the other articles’ comment sections as well”.

I fail to see why you’re white knighting this new person when I’m not even being mean, in fact, I’m encouraging that they integrate themselves further into the community.

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 7, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

I know about the read and learn guy, he was great entertainment

And I agree that there have been several Fanposts that didn’t live up to the high standard that purplerow has developed.

It is pretty clear that you discouraged this new user from writing any more fanposts, and that is where I took exception. If he has more thoughts that are well organized and insightful I’d like to hear them.

I am glad that you are welcoming him into the fold.

by Roberbola on Jan 7, 2010 10:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for the posts

I have no problem learning your ways here. I’m not too familiar with sports blogging or blogging in general for that matter. I just love Rockies/Baseball chatter and consequently this site. I’ll continue browsing all of the posts and posting where I might have a relevant thought. Thanks for letting me be a part!

by BringItHome on Jan 7, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

You'll soon find out that your thoughts don't have to be relevant :-)

"They fired me for being too old. I'll never make the mistake of turning seventy again." -- Casey Stengel after being let go by the Yankees

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 7, 2010 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I've said this before about Daley but the thing I love about him is that he throws strikes.

Few things annoy me more than relievers coming in and walking people.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf." - Tug McGraw after being asked if he liked grass or Astroturf better.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 6, 2010 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

You Mean Like This Guy?

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base.

by KDub1988 on Jan 7, 2010 8:27 AM MST up reply actions  

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