Wednesday Rockpile: Lilly Gets Paid, De La Rosa Waits
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JDLR Watch
After seeing that fellow LHP free agent Ted Lilly has officially re-signed with the Dodgers for what is announced as a 3 year, $33 million contract with a two year full no-trade clause and a $3.5 million signing bonus spread over three years (Jon Heyman called it a bargain), the focus on Jorge De La Rosa becomes even sharper. According to the Denver Post, the southpaw is currently awaiting an offer from the Rockies, though he will likely wait until he can gauge interest from other teams until he makes a decision.
The Lilly deal, contrary to what Jon Heyman says, looks like an overpay to me. Lilly will be 35 on Opening Day and the deal runs through his age-37 season. The decline risk, plus the fact that Lilly might not even be good enough to justify his salary in the first year of the contract, makes me extremely wary (and glad the Dodgers gave this contract out). RJ Anderson of Fangraphs agrees with me and uses some math to back his reasoning up. It's quite possible that LA was simply blinded by Lilly's performance in a small sample size as a Dodger.
Which brings me to De La Rosa. Lilly has much more of a track record than JDLR of MLB success (four seasons of 3+ WAR and very few injuries), but he's five years older and arguably has a lower ceiling over the next three years. We'll see if De La Rosa's lack of a track record and perceived risk drop him into the Rockies' price range (which appears to max out at around 3/24, close to what they paid Huston Street). I'd be willing to go up to 3/27 for JDLR, but the Lilly contract makes me wonder if even that will get it done for Jorge. I wouldn't count on it.
The DP article mentions that the Rockies will likely need to make a quick move if they want to retain Melvin Mora, that they will monitor Jason Giambi's situation, and that Tulowitzki is finally sans-mullet. Finally.
Ian Stewart Shows Ambition
In an article by Thomas Harding, the Rockies' third baseman announced that next year he wants to rise to the level of Tulo and CarGo, where his name in the lineup is written in stone. With new hitting coach Carney Lansford, Stewart will focus on improving against left-handed pitching (and requests to be given the opportunity to face them) and avoid falling behind 0-2 so many times.
It's good to see that Stewart wants to improve, but ultimately he's got to be the change he wants to see. If Stewart does alter his approach at the plate successfully, Colorado will have a third cost-controlled force in their lineup through their championship window.
Other News
EY2 is going to see EY1 quite a bit next year, as the Rockies' inaugural second baseman was named as the Diamondbacks' first base coach yesterday. My hope is that he sends Arizona runners against CarGo's arm all season long.
Mark Kiszla does his job, I guess, comparing Carmelo to Tulo (you know, in that neither will stay in Colorado his entire career). Personally, I see the Rockies ponying up for Tulowitzki just as they gave money to Todd Helton, with the shortstop staying a Rockie his entire career. In any case, Kiszla is seriously getting ahead of himself because Tulo is signed through 2014 (though he does recognize Colorado's championship window runs through that point).
Steve Foster of Inside the Rockies writes about the performance of Rockies prospects so far in the Arizona Fall League. It's important to note that actual numbers in the league matter much less than how the players look while performing. Rex Brothers is a primary example of this: he's got a 3.00 WHIP and a 13.50 ERA, but he's received the most praise from scouts on his AFL work (namely, his velocity and movement).
Finally, our own WolfMarauder reports (through Project LIBRA) that Paul Phillips and Juan Rincon have declared minor league free agency and very well could be in other organizations soon. If that is the case, I'd like to thank those gentlemen for their services as a Rockie.
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I am going to go ahead and agree with you there that Lilly’s contract is way high. They must have just been looking at his line against the Rockies.
Quick question: Is the JDLR watch link supposed to go to the same place as the OT?
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 8:23 AM MDT reply actions
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Clearly Lilly's contract is way high
However, unless every front office interested in LH starters feels the same way, the Dodgers just effectively priced JDLR out of the Rockies’ budget, because JDLR will get at least as much $$$ as Lilly, and more likely an extra year.
So now we’re at 4/$44m, and JDLR just isn’t worth that, except in potential.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sure to what you are referring, my good sir.
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[…] but ultimately he’s got to be the change he wants to see.
I was kidding, and it’s attributed to Gandhi so it wasn’t even really a joke. So… poop on my face.
But it’s nice to see Stewart doesn’t want to become a platoon guy. All the people riled up about his twitter should pat him on the back for that quote. Very Tulo-esque.
Exactly.
I’m loving that Stewie came out and said it. Now, time to get to work and fix it.
Yeah, my username says it all.
by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Go Rangers!!
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So What do you think Ross would cost?
I know his NLCS will boost him.
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He’s not actually a Free Agent; I believe Sabean has said he’ll definitely be tendered a contract.
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I take it Giants fans like him quite a bit more now
Than the night when he butchered CarGo’s game changing triple?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
sports fans? fickle?
hold your tongue sir
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Cliff Lee and the Yankees
JC Bradbury makes a good point via the WSJ:
If they do, the tax’s rate will be 40%. For every $20 million the Yankees might pay Mr. Lee, then, they’d actually be spending $28 million.
"Let’s say another team wants him and isn’t going to have to pay the luxury tax," Dr. Bradbury said. "If they offer him a $22 million-a-year deal, they’re really paying less money out of their pocket than the Yankees. The Yankees [might] say, ‘To give you $22 million, we’re going to have to spend $30 million off our budget, so it’s not worth it.’ "
When people think the Yankees can run payroll up to infinity, it’s actually infinity plus the luxury tax.
Bradbury also suggests Lee could command $32M/year. The team who pays that is insane.
This is what makes mr think Swisher might be available as a cost reduction on the Yank's part.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
One of the problems I have with that theory, besides that NY doesn’t have a viable in-house replacement and would have to pay as much or more to get the same production from a FA, is that Swisher is a friend of CC, and CC has an opt out clause after 2011.
I think Hank is itching to make the Yanks in his and not his Dad's image.
I think he’s ready to bite the bullit and reduce payroll.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Oh, I see. You mean they’d be willing to trade Swisher to reduce the luxury tax hit, not to free up room for Lee? Maybe. I doubt he’d cut payroll without having an alternative RF plan, and I can’t see a plan that provides the same production as Swisher for a lower cost.
More likely, I think they sign lower cost starters this winter instead of Lee. The payroll will be lowered by virtue of replacing Petitte and Vasquez with with Joba/Nova and back end FA.
Part of Cost reduction is getting younger...
They’d have to trade Swisher for that reduction in age and money.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
No matter how much Hank may not be his father,
he is not going to sacrifice the on-field product to save money.
Respectfully Disagree....
He has an ageing core he needs to replace and has shown popularity is no garuantee of staying a yank. He can’t continue to field a team of thirty somethings forever at these cost levels and still keep his onfield product level. Something will have to give. Swisher is the one affordable star he can trade for prospects. He can put Granderson in RF if he has to and Garner in CF and any number of spare parts in LF.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Except that, as you noted before, Swisher is aging. He’ll be 30 going into next season. I have no idea what return he’d bring, but it wouldn’t net them enough to cover his production.
The cost reduction will happen even as they re-sign their aging core (however much of a mistake that is). Jeter will make less than $21M, Rivera will make less than $15M (probably), and Pettitte will make less than $12M (probably) or be gone.
After 2011, there’s no way Posada will be on the team at $13M/season. Also, ARod’s contract is front loaded and will decrease in yearly value after next year.
It’s not smart to keep Jeter at short for another 4 or 5 years, but there’s a lot of cost savings already built into the payroll.
And he doesn't nessasailly have the prospect he needs to replace that core.
That means he needs to replenish his farm
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"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Well, the only position where they don’t have an obvious solution to replacing the “core” is SS. Presumably, Joba or another guy could handle closer, Montero or Romine can take catcher, and Nova/Brackman should be able to be in the rotation.
Swisher is sort of like Brad Hawpe was to the Rockies: they’d never get a return that is equal to Swisher/Hawpe’s value to the team. You have to trade for less, or wait until his value is obviously diminished.
Like deacs said, Swisher is a bargain at his current production
I would think that would be percisely the person they would want to keep on their roster if they are trying to cut payroll.
In fact, if they really want to cut payroll so bad, all they have to do is not resign their overpaid stars like Jeter and Petitte
Yeah, like they're gonna let Jeter get his 3000th hit elsewhere
Not going to happen
Mediocrity sucks
Hal is the brains
Hank is the blowhard.
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
i very much respect Bradbury
His work really piqued my interest in baseball analysis
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He's a really smart guy
who writes about baseball in an enjoyable and comprehensible way.
I just always wondered why he gives contract projections (Lee is not the first) as if he was multiplying a player’s WAR times the dollar value of a win? (He obviously has his own formula, I’m just saying that’s how his formula comes off.) ARod is the only elite player who is close to being paid his actual value as determined by advanced metrics.
So if I'm reading between the lines correctly you're saying that you don't think the Yankees can afford to sign Cliff Lee?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, yes. And noting that JC Bradbury, respected economist, is saying the same thing if you read between the lines.
My gut still tells me the Yankees are going to sign him
I hope I’m wrong though
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm sure someone's laying odds, but possibly not until after the WS
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Why was the homerun last night not reviewed?
I’m confused as to when replay can and can’t be used…
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This.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
look how wrong you are.
I was talking about the musical.
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When did he have time? Isn't always out bow-hunting these days?
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Is your real name Lola?
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I was a show girl...
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I'm pretty sure (like Lola)
That what Maria wants, Maria gets!
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The umpire has the discretion to
to determine if he thinks the ball would have been catchable. He determined no, and that fan interference wasn’t even up for debate.
Or the umpire is an idiot.
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It should have at least
been reviewed.
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Oh I agree. But the umpire made the decision that it didn't fall into the reviewable category
which is really shortsighted.
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and wrong.
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Hey I'm with you.
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Here's a link to a great picture
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/10/one-home-run-overturned-why-wa.html
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I sitll don't get it.
The guys are clearly touching his glove in the field of play. Is that not an automatic out?
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It would be a ground rule double, I think.
Unfortunately, there’s no guarantee Cruz would have caught the ball. However, if it was ruled fan interference, I think that makes it a ground rule double…
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Well, I’ll guess I’ll have to take the 10-3 final in lieu of hitting the guy in the pinstripe jersey with a brick.
Because watching his reaction after the fact, that dude really needed to be hit with a brick.
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NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
yes. yes he did.
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see to me...that's a DB
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Huh, something I didn't know from reading that:
Re tagging up, if the ball is juggled:
“Runners may leave their bases the instant the first fielder touches the ball.”
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Players select Hanley Ramirez as Sporting News Player of the Year at shortstop
Discuss
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:37 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
seriously?
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No joke
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:40 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
How?
I’m stunned.
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Derek Jeter is dismayed at this decision
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/discussion
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
Players are probably apt to look at games played
and conclude that by virtue of playing in 20 more games, Hanley provided more value. That, or they wanted to send him a cookie for the stupid media poopstorm that ensued his kicking the ball into the out field.
Or, players are dumb.
I doubt many players are that analytical
And Hanley deserved that poop storm
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:51 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
They aren’t analytical in what way? Looking at two players who are thought of as equally talented and seeing that one played more?
Deserved it minus the self-righteousness from non-player TV commentators.
i guess i assume if they notice one was out for a month
They would also notice that same guy had much better counting stats still
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
You would think
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
HOW ON .....what...I ....what?
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And?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
strike against him?
I’m more just throwing it out there as hopefully something to temper the “OMG SLIGHTED” fire that is raging
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
would make sense
if Josh Hamilton was also penalized for being out most of September….
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it's not a fair playing field
Colorado doesn’t win postseason awards, it’s no biggie
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
It could also be that players on other teams just personally dislike him for the various reasons jokingly or seriously enumerated here.
If we as fans see things that make him unappealing and draw the conclusion that we wouldn’t like him as a person, I’m sure other players see the same and more.
Okay..once and for all
What is so wrong with Tulo. What makes him so “unappealing” that we wouldn’t want to be his friend. I have seen people on here say they don’t like him. Specifics ,please, specifics !!!!
I’ve only seen one or two of these threads, so I don’t every reason, but the take-away from those is that his hyper-intense, demonstrative on-field demeanor indicates a personality that might be “brah-tastic” or overly aggressive in a social context. Also, the mullet looks like trash and is either meant to be a throwback to how blue collar and workman-like he is, or an ironic fashion statement. In the former, he’s not blue collar, and in the latter, that’s just DB.
So, he could be none of these things, but as fans we have no idea. SDCat will tell you all about how he doesn’t come off as privileged or arrogant, and she may be right too. It’s in the eye of the beholder.
You're misrepresenting my comment about Tulo.
It was in the context of the SoCal/Ian Stewart entitlement drama. I was merely pointing out that because Tulo is not from NoCal he could not possibly be either of those things, (which was sarcasm btw). I never said anything about him being arrogant or not.
Ask Muzia why people hate Tulo. I think he’s just a supremely confident young man and is hellagood at his job.
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err...*was from NoCal, not SoCal.
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I don’t want to go back through the threads, but I thought some of the somewhat supportive comments (or at least the ones challenging Muzia’s assessment) were not just in the Stewart/Tulo context. I’m probably wrong, but I needed you as a strawman.
The bottom line is that it shouldn’t matter what his demeanor is, but sportswriters and athletes are sensitive people who enjoy depriving talented freaks of their due because they don’t like the way they comb their hair.
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by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I think he's a cocky showoff
and that he has “big market” in his long-term vision
the latter is pure speculation
He is a phenomenal baseball player, and there is not another SS I’d rather have. I just get the gut feeling that I won’t stand on at all that he is just biding his time with Colorado until he can go be the new Jeter.
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Dear Lord I hope you're wrong
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Just curious, what are your feelings on Cargo the person?
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
couldn't tell you
I haven’t read much about him yet
I abhor is fauxhawk though.
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions
RIRF and PIP are better at defending Tulo than I am...
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he's a talented freak
and I like that he’s our talented freak.
Let me clarify: I think Tulo is a phenomenal talent, a great ballplayer. Great range, cannon arm, great bat. I love Tulo the player.
I hate Tulo the person. He rubs me as arrogant, flashy. If he was on another team, we would all HATE him, but he’s ours so everyone loves him. Except me. I like guys that work hard and make their names on the field. Tulo seems to take it one step further.
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
the only athletes that aren't arrogant
are the ones that aren’t any good.
Brad Hawpe. Jason Hammel.
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by Greg Stanwood on Oct 20, 2010 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Ive never heard of either of those people
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In what ways does Tulo take it one step further?
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Oh dear God
You say you “like guys that work hard and make their names on the field.”
Isn’t that exactly what Tulo does?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
/lollipop throw
because Jeter has his own trademark so Tulo needs one too, even though his arm would get the ball there faster if he set his feet.
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but the errors it creates don't matter because
WHOA LOOK AT HIS PHENOMENAL THROW
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I wonder if his quad injury compelled him
to do more of this type of throw? Maybe he’s a little less agile now…?
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if anything, this throwing technique is worse on his quad
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Ugh
Tulo has the best fielding percentage of any shortstop in the HISTORY OF BASEBALL!!!!!!
I doubt those throws are causing more errors
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Hi, Todd Helton.
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Tulo fielding percentage is higher in games Helton did not play in
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
look, you're in love with him
I don’t like the guy.
There is no middle ground here.
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In fairness...
RIRF is making actual arguments here with statistical evidence. He’s not just painting hearts.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
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See below. Career FP% leaderboard is not really an argument. It’s neat, but it’s meaningless when Tulo has 10-15 years of baseball ahead of him, and the people behind him played SS into their late 30s with all sorts of expected decline.
That's a good counter argument.
“Hi, Todd Helton” is not.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
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You do realize that Vizquel had his best year's of fielding percentage between the ages of 30-35 right?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
No it's because you have no stats to back up your claim
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
here are my stats
Muzia’s hate percentage towards Tulo 74%
That’s it. I don’t like the guy the same way people don’t like brussel sprouts. And I am not alone in my sentiment.
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Since when do brussel sprouts
make jump throws?
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Duh...
Brussel Sprouts are slap-shot experts.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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But I thought we were talking about
baseball Brussel Sprouts…?
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My bad....
I misread jump thows as jump-shots, and thought you had opened it to all sports.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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hahaha....
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It's Brussels Sprouts
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Do you realize that FP% is completely meaningless in the context of how good someone is at getting to the most balls?
hes only citing FP% because Muzia said Tulo creates errors
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Helton has 16 errors since Tulo started playing in 07
I have no idea how to find out how many errors came on throws from Tulo but I’m guessing very few
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions
I'll agree with you that Tulo probably will start losing range as he gets older
but to hate him for this throwing motion by stating that it creates errors is just completely false
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
It's okay to not like a guy's personality.
To each his own. But I think for other players to penalize him because of his personality vs talent seems….I dunno…can’t think of the word.
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I said he is a phenomenal player
I’m glad he’s with Colorado.
Doesn’t change my opinions of him.
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Right...I'm not saying you have to like the guy even a little bit.
This is going back to why did they pick HanRam instead of Tulo…..
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Tulo was the best SS in the league this year.
Bar none.
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He's also easily my least favorite Rockie
I wonder why I get crucified for that around here
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I totally understand where you are at.
I would hate Tulo if he was on any other team but ours.
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This exactly.
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't, I love players who show that intensity
For instance, I hate the Red Sox but I like Pedroia
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
I would likely end Pedroia's life if given the chance
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OOO--KAY
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
It just makes me sad that you dislike a guy on our team who works as hard as he does and gets the big picture
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
I see him as a total toolbox
if he played for, say Milwaukee, you would think the same thing
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PIP is one of the few members who has actually met him...
and we know where she stands on this issue.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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Met him, or "met" him
like in a hotel. Because I’ve heard some stories about hookers and hiding in closets about the Mayflower Hotel in DC.
WOW!!!! that is like not even funny
PIP is a teenager deacs…you might want to retract that little ditty
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Absolutely not
I like players that work hard, are really intense, exude confidence, care about the community, get the big picture, and care about the history of the game.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Why do you have to personally like a guy because he’s on your team? Emotionally investing yourself in an athlete who plays for your team is a fool’s errand. Mostly because you have no idea what the person is like off the field.
by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
You don't, and no one is saying you do.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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RIRF is saying that
It just makes me sad that you dislike a guy on our team who works as hard as he does and gets the big picture
As Muzia has already stated that Tulo the Player is a dreamboat, RIRF can only be referring to Tulo the Person, which, not knowing him personally, we can all reasonably disagree in opinion.
This is a very long story
I wrote a fan post about this
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
I know
But you’re reaching the tipping point of unreasonableness in not allowing that people can dislike [Rockies player] the Person while still admiring [Rockies player] the Player.
by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
RIRF never said one is not allowed
to dislike Tulo. He just feels sad that they don’t.
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This
And I’m still struggling to understand why they don’t
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Why do some people not like broccoli?
Some things are just a personal preference that doesn’t make sense (and doesn’t need to).
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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Well, I dislike Pedroia
for no logical reason. So to each his own.
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Perhaps “not allowing” was the wrong phrase. RIRF is not accepting that people are happy to like the player and not like the person.
Tulo aside, is there anything wrong with that formula?
If there isn’t, then those who dislike Tulo because of his demeanor have explained themselves. There is an impasse.
I'm just trying to figure out
what about his demeanor they find annoying. I don’t really care that much, I’m just curious.
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I don’t know, it’s not the demeanor that bothers me. It’s the dumb stuff that arises from the demeanor, as Maria noted.
And I’d agree with the people about the throwing style.
Otherwise, I’m happy to like him as a person from a distance, and I’m happy to love him as a player. Like run on to the field and smother him in gravy love.
he is a great player
has a lot of passion for the game – and you see that in the way he plays.
But that also gets in the way of him being a better player. He needs to control his passion – especially when things aren’t going right.
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Soooooo...
more like Ian Stewart?
;-)
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Ha.
No.
He does DB things when the going gets tough – like slam his bat down and slice his hand open making him miss time away from the team.
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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I completely argee that Tulo's inability to control his passion is his fatal flaw
But I relate to that so for me that makes me like him even more as a character
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
but that hurts the team in
the long run. That is what I don’t like about him.
The greats harness their passion – and unleash it when it is most needed. The others fall short because they can’t control it – I’m afraid tulo might fall into this category.
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I think Tulo has learned a great deal
about controlling his temper after 08. The guy is just now 25….he’ll get wiser
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Oh really
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He didn't break the bat
himself. It broke on the play. He took that final shard and stabbed in the ground. I have no real problem with that.
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But it's a good example of how
he doesn’t have full control of his temper.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
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So you have no problem
with him taking a sharp object and stabbing it into the ground? What if he had sliced the tendons on his hand while doing that? Stupid DB move.
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My opinion of that move
was that he was frustrated for sure. Angry even. I don’t think he was in danger of hurting himself. It seemed to me that while it was a spur of the moment thing, he thought about it for a moment, before doing it. That’s all I’m saying. He took the end that was in his hand already and just jabbed into the ground. It’s now quite the same as him shattering a bat against a wall.
Also, I don’t know what DB means….
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hahahaha
I just laughed out loud in my cube. I better get back to work before they realize what I’m doing.
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
If he thought about it for a moment
that’s even worse. It means he can’t understand the consequences of doing something stupid like that.
If he didn’t think about it, it’s a purely irrational, dangerous move.
Slamming the bat shard into the ground was a lose lose.
Being frustrated
and angry is no excuse to do something that could harm you – and by extension your team.
Did he think he would slice his hand open when he slammed the bat into the ground? no – but he did – and that hurt the team.
And the fact that he thought about doing – and still did it – is what bugs me. He should have thought about it – and walked away.
Until he can control his frustration and anger – he will never be a great player.
DB = douchebag
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Oh I see.....
re DB…thanks for clarifying.
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If that's all it takes to be a doucebag then I guess I'm a doucebag
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
A doucebag is probably something you were around your leg and related to gastric problems.
by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly, getting upset at yourself for screwing up isnt DB
being a DB is watching a HR from the box, throwing a broken bat at a player running down to first, calling “I got it” when there is an infield popup and youre running the bases
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL, did someone actually do that?
re: yelling “I got it”?
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AROD did it.
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wow...I had never heard that
story before. Makes me dislike him even more.
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There is absolutely nothing not DB about AFraud
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
he's a complete DB
awesome baseball player though
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions
awesomely effective cheater and roid user, too
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
ok
but we should adore him and his intensity for consistently putting himself in places of personal long-term risk to help his team. Definition of a team player, right there.
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't adore him for crap
What long term risk, besides that to his health from roid use and allegedly sexing STD-ridden actresses?
$500m can mitigate a ton of risk.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
get upset yes.
But don’t ever do something to harm yourself – and cause injury to your team.
It is the second half of it that makes it DB. It is putting your personal frustration over the needs of your team.
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Well, the guy is only human
Would that we all could not lose our tempers and not have to regret dumb things that we do.
Again, I see his homeplate thing as a totally different circumstance.
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But you
aren’t the leader of a team that has the talent to win a WS.
If he wants to lead – he needs to control his temper on the field.
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He's always controlled his
temper during games. That was at the END of the game. Done deal.
I’ve never once seen Tulo lose it during a game, never. If anything, he keeps his head about him beyond his years.
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Why doesn't
the end of the game matter? You can still injure yourself when the game is over right?
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My interpretation was that
there was no real risk to Tulo hurting himself, nor the team, by clutching the not shattered end of a bat and flipping said piece straight into the ground. (Also, I really do think it was just a coincidence that the bat impaled as it did)
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Again, apply that situation to anyone but Tulo
and tell me what you think? In particular, apply to a player you don’t like.
Sorry I don't understand your question.
If ARod did the same thing I really wouldn’t care…I would laugh, much as I did with Tulo…
the reason I laughed was that it was ultimately perfectly fitting end to the season.
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It really was quite poetic
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
By this measure
Any player who has celebrated after a game winning hit is in the wrong because kendry Morales saw his season end after celebrating a walk off home run.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah it's all Kendry's fault
seriously, RIRF? use some common sense
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Maris said that players need to control their emotions so that they don't put their team at risk
By that rule Morales failed to control his emotions and cost his team
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
by trying to step on home plate and getting mobbed by his teammates.
uh-huh. It appears we have a different definition for..basically everything.
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Okay then how about the guy in Florida (can't remember who) who's season ended because of his personal celebration
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't see the connection between the two incidents
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Players failed to control their emotions and got hurt because of it
As a result, their team suffered
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm punting on this topic too
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Frankie?
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Both were stupid actions
that hurt their teams.
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it wasn't a stupid action
it was the same walkoff celebration that every player ever uses, jumping on home plate into the moshpit
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
no...?
Oh…if you click the little “up” button, you can see what I was replying to.
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't forget
Smacking the first baseman’s glove while running to first base to try to dislodge the ball
I guess I just really didn't see that particular
move as that big of a deal.
I don’t disagree that he’s made mistakes. I’ve really never seen him lose his cool during a game at all. It was the end of the game, last AB. It didn’t cost us anything.
His explosion when he tore up his hand was because he was taken out of the game by Hurdle and he lost it. I don’t expect he’ll behave that way ever again.
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You didn’t consider losing the best player on the team for 13 games in the middle of the season over something that was entirely preventable as a big deal?
I mean, I know they were way under .500 but that’s still a huge problem.
I think she was talking about the bat slam at home plate this year
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
correct.......
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Well, its a huge difference
I was extremely pissed at Tulo for nearly destroying his whole career with his temper tantrum. I’m pretty sure it scared him silly, how close he could have been to injuring his hand permanently.
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What are you talking about?
I’m talking about him jabbing the broken bat in the ground on the last play of the game at the end of the season??
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I agree that Tulo needs to contrpl his temper better
It’s just that the intensity he shows makes me like him as a person even more becasue I relate to it.
I once broke my hand after punching a wall after the Rockies lost.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I once punched a bathroom wall at a party because yadda yadda yadda and it bled like crazy. That was intense and passionate, so why did everyone look at me like I was a freak?
I don't know
They should have made sure you were allright
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
they should have looked at you as a hero and a leader
nobody partied as hard as you, and it makes me admire you as a person
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
never get hurt
I don’t know what I’d do with myself
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions
wow.
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
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But those
actions hurt him – and the team.
I can’t like a person for doing things that harm the Rockies. Any time that Tulo is off the field is bad for this team.
If he wants to be the leader – he needs to start acting like one.
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But he doesn't intend to hurt the team
That’s the thing. It’s just his passion blowing up in his face. He cares almost too much and there’s something I love about that.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
He didn't intend to
but the end results did hurt the team.
He needs to grow up – and control his passion.
Because when he is injured doing something stupid – it hurts the team.
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Also if you need more proof about Tulo's character
Look at why the Rockies drafted him. DOD has said they liked Tulo’s character as much as his game and that the reason the Indians didn’t win a World Series in the 90’s is because those teams didn’t have a character like Tulo.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
also, because they are from Cleveland
Cleveland is fated to never win a championship.
If anything is to blame, let’s blame Jose Mesa
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If Tulo was there he would have talked to Mesa between pitches and helped him get the outs :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sure Mesa would
have listened to a 12 year old kid
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What about a 13 year old kid? :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
You’re equivocating: if a kid did that during a softball game you’d call him a moron. Tulo does that in the middle of a professional season and he “just cares too much.”
by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
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rec'd
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No
I like people who show emotion and passion regardless of what level they are playing at
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
If you’re a father and your son slams a bat shard into the ground because he’s being removed from the game, cutting his hand open and requiring a trip to the ER, do you reward with adulation him for caring too much?
I wasn't talking about that
I was reffering to what he did in the Dodger game this season.
The other one I don’t defend at all. I can just relate to his actions even though I know they were wrong.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Take the Dodger game scenario and apply to a father/son relationship. Do you reward your son with adulation for that behavior?
love and adulation are not the same thing.
No one has said that Tulo slamming the bat that disintegreted over being removed from a game is proper behavior.
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I let my wife handle that conversation
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Erm...you're over 16 right?
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HAHA Yes
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
So you are of marriageable age.
Not saying you SHOULD get married….lol
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Well, what are you going to do
tase him? (joke)
Of course, you’re going to admonish him about this behavior. And teach him that this is not ideal or proper behavior. You can teach the child to redirect the anger.
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Welcome to my world
anytime Tulo is mentioned
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Equivocating how?
I would teach my child that behavior is absolutely wrong. Would I withdraw my love for my child because he/she made a mistake and tell them they can’t play anymore? Of course not.
Also, Tulo is NOT a child. He learned his lesson I believe. He could have lost his entire career for that temper tantrum.
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that's one word I'd use, yes
or another one that ends in ‘ating’
Is it bad that I almost typed ‘%ating’
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions
He already did get wiser before this season
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Newspapers stories do not count as knowing whether or not someone’s wiser than the previous season. I mean, half the stuff they print everyone would acknowledge as crap. That makes the other half, especially the fluff pieces, hard to take seriously.
maybe Tulo will develop a cutter this offseason too
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That would be sweet.
I know he could totally do it.
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I'm sorry Muzia. No one is intending to crucify you here.
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Thank you.
I’ve said my peace. I’m done with this discussion.
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You might want to alter you sig line then
:P
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technically, my sigline combo
implies I wish harm to Galiardi and success to Tulo
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Say what?
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His love is like a rock and he loves Galiardi...
do the math
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yeah I don't do math.....
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Or Muzia is stuck...
…between Iraq and Gallardi place
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
PurpleRow - Srs Bizness
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
PurpleRow--Take this seriously
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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WHY ARENT YOU DEAD YET
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
I wouldn’t hang my hat on .0007 difference between him and a man 18 years older and with 9000 more chances than him.
The same applies to the multitude of other players who are years older than Tulo and within a hundredth of his FP%.
Bottom line is that he IS the best now and will end his career as either the best or one of the best
Tulo’s defensive style helps the Rockies and we should love that
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
So you hate him because of a throwing style?
That’s absurd
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
It's bad technique.
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Did you read the addendum? Tulo could be an even better fielder if he actually utilized the fundamental footwork and throws that he is capable.
but he won't because it's his trademark now
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I doubt he'd be better
Tulo has found a way to throw that accurately of balance and he’s using it to his advantage.
Others have to have that footwork because they can’t do what Tulo does.
If there was a way for Tulo to get better I serious doubt he wouldn’t do it.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
then why does he lead the league in popups
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Because Barmes didn't play every day
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tulo led MLB in popup RATE
By quite a margin. And higher than Barmes
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 11:54 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Iteresting
Well I guess that’s a good thing in some ways. That means he can cut down on that and get even better.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
actually, his LD% has gone down the past 3 seasons
while his popup rate has remained very high. If anything, he’s getting worse
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is Popup rate different than Flyball %? And if so what is the difference?
by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
they were probably the least selfish and more worthy of adulation popups this season
seriously, we should love the guy.
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Listen to this.
When I went to the Rockies vs. Giants game in August, I sat next to Tulo’s girlfriend’s friend’s dad. The girlfriends were to the left of the dad, and they said they went to the game to watch Tulo play (unfortunately he didn’t even play that game). So I asked the dad if Tulo was a nice guy and stuff and the dad said yes, he was a really good kid. Very nice and polite.
Yeah, my username says it all.
by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Doesn't mean he can't have a girlfriend!
Plays into the view that he’s a jerk…
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HAHA
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
He probably meant Tulo's wife's friend's dad.
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That's how I read it as well
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL wife*
Sorry.
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by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
That was the first thing that crossed my mind when I read that.
Yeah, my username says it all.
by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll get really upset for you.
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Never underestimate the power of stupidity
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Just think
This whole discussion could have been avoided if the players got this right :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha......
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probably
It was a good discussion to have. Now that specifics have been addressed and both sides have voiced their opinions. Now, we can respect each others views and agree that it is good we have him on our team no matter what our personal feelings are about the guy…
(for awhile, anyway )
(for awhile, anyway )
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Until the Great ShortStop War of 2011
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What great SS war?
Tulo’s our SS, should be our SS for life :)
Of course, Chris Nelson should be the backup SS or Herrera..:)
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whatever the minute someone says anything even marginally bad about Tulowitzki it'll start right back over
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I can't guarantee that I'll be logged on the exact minute someone says something bad about Tulo :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
honestly I'm not surprised with the Lilly contract, it was right about what I expected him to get
Now do I think he deserves that much money, no. I also don’t think that DLR will get that much.
Did you all read that the fan who ran out onto the field in Game 3
was allegedly going after A-Rod? I dislike the guy, but this is a scary thing….Check this out
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Yikes.
I hate that story. Monica Seles was my favorite tennis player, and it always depressed me to think of how good she would’ve been.
That was ridic.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions
that is scary.
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The Dugout also dealt with this guy...
but their treatment was much funnier.
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Carney Lansford is such a cool name.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
stfu
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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Avs game tomorrow.
I expect you to be there. THEN we do the <3 thing.
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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions
This is OT
you need to take this to OT
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stfu
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions
...wp
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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
interesting analysis of the intentional walk to Murphy preceding the Molina home run
By Matt Klaassen on his twitter page (devil_fingers). Acc to Tom Tango, an intentional walk in that precise situation is a good tactical move if the player you are walking has a wOBA of 1.26 times greater than the one you end up facing.
Using CHONE and platoon splits, Murphy has an expected wOBA of 1.22 times more than Molina. It was a bad tactical move by Girardi, and he got burned. But it wasn’t obscenely horrible
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:19 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I hope EY2 gets on base lots, and has lots of chances to meet with his dad.
But I’ll keep expecting EY1 to try to give EY2 his Boo-Boo and Woobie every time.
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Heh. I was wondering if they will continue running that ad.....it's one of my favorites to be sure.
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Pretty sure theyll have six completely new ones for next year
Maybe Cargo will pummel the Philly Phanatic with his bat like a pinata until tacos come out
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe they'll show a meteor crashing into AT&T Park, followed by....
…2011 Colorado Rockies, perpetual NL West champions.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I approve of this idea.
Or, maybe Dinger and the Phanatic could brawl?
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
They won't run it next season....typically use a whole new batch of commercials
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Probably another....
Humidifier Add
Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!
by Colsportsfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Can we get a Jon Miller impersonator?
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If EY2 gets on base lots and has lots of chances to meet with his dad....
….that will require some offseason trade activity.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I approve of this plan
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, I meant about three times per game for 18 games. That seems like a lot.
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by glaucophane on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Though I'd be happy with any 2nd baseman who gets on base a lot.
Or any other position, too. Just better offense, please.
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by glaucophane on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Would still require offseason trade activity
For him to get to meet his dad while standing on 1B, his dad would have to be 1B coach of his team, not the opposite team.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh. Duh. That's right.
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by glaucophane on Oct 20, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Of course, they can hang out pregame
But then, we’d be ragging on EY2 for not focusing on game preparations…
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions
As long as he's not tweeting about booboo
he’s cool.
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So how about those Yankees last night?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:29 PM MDT reply actions
I'm really looking forward to today's game.
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C'mon
Yankees, there is nothing in the latter part of your sentence to indicate possession. And only southerners would refer to the Yankee’s as possessing anything. Like their homes, land and women.
Really deacs? you're gonna casbah this...
Also, don’t the Yankees own Yankee Stadium?
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This week, the Rangers own Yankee Stadium
and their fans.
Who’s their daddy now?
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
While I agree with this in principle
I was trying to explain to deacs, that the Yankees do in fact own Yankee Stadium.
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serious question
I know that Citifield was build with taxpayer money
by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sure. I believe no taxpayer money was involved. I'd have to research
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Nope, I'm wrong.
$2.3 billion, including $1.2 billion in taxpayer subsidies. Interesting. You would think a team with Yankee dollars would fund there own ballpark, that the didn’t really need to begin with.
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So the public owns 50% of Yankee Stadium...
…which they repay to the Steinbrenners in $2500 chunks.
No wonder I hate NY.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Is it still your home turf if all your faux fans leave early?
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
They lasted almost as long as their "fans"
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by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll second that!
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Apparently Jason Heyward told Scott Van Pelt that Giants fans are the worst for opposing players to deal with.
Didn’t Tulo have an issue with a Giants fan yelling at him one game?
I think 40,000 Phillies fans just said, "Oh no you didn't!!"
quote continued… “WTF, we boo Santa Clause! The Gnats fans are just steroid apologists… We are legitimate haters!”
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oops
grammer strong not is…
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by BittenAnkles on Oct 20, 2010 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I think he was really bothered by the language being used and that it was teenagers
I recall….I’m sure he gets heckled nonstop
probably by Muzia and RMN more than anyone else (oh come on , I’m just kidding)
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Yeah, it sounded like that was along the lines of Heyward's complaint, too.
That the tone/content of the heckling is way worse.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Dumb Rangers.
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 3:16 PM MDT reply actions
Meh...they've score 5 runs in every game...
except the 1st game. I believe the Rangers will make a comeback
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I never knew the Yankees radio person was a lady.
good for her.
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
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You're not speaking of Suzye Waldman....cause she's terrible
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dunno
just heard a comparison of teams with A.J.‘s and C.J.’s that had me scratching my head.
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Uh, yeah. That sounds like her.
I think it was someone here who said the other guy does all the play by play, so she just rambles about useless crap the whole game. With her super, super annoying voice.
They're just being nice allowing the Yankees to win their final home game of 2010
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Looks like it's starting :) !
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Ffffnnnn Yankees!
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Rangers on the board 5-1 now
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Yay!
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Bah, Josh Hamilton epicfail
I mean, Hanley Ramirez could have pulled off that move.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
I'm trying to figure out when a mistake
begins epic failure…..
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Oh, I dunno, not even watching (at work)...but GIDP in that spot is always a fail
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Ugh Nelson Cruz out with a hamstring strain...that's no bueno
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So who's pitching tomorrow? What time is the game? (NY/TX)
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I think it's a travel day tomorrow if it goes back to Texas
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but it would be Cliff Lee
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Sweet!
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I think it would be Lewis actually.
Lee is slated for a Game 7
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on regular rest? It would be regular rest would it not?
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Lee pitched Monday right? And they wouldn't play again until Friday...
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Which is only three days of rest.
Full rest would be on Saturday, which is game 7
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Huey Lewis and the News singing Star Spangled Banner on NLCS
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There's your flyover, holly
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Shane didn't like that pitch
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Bum.
Lol, I once,or maybe it was Andrew, changed his wikipedia page to reflect the fact that he was once caught fertilizing the infield with his bum, explaining his hilarious name.
If that idiot contract the Dodgers gave to Lilly
prevents us from re-signing Jorge, I am going to go find Colletti and kick him square in the gonads.
Is it 2011 yet?
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If you can get the rights...
I think I could sell this as a PPV on TBLA.
/calls Eric Stephens
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I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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I wonder what Bumgarner didn't like about that ball?
non-humidored?
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
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Speaking of signing Jorge ...
While watching the Giants’ NO. 4 starter shut down the Phils,
it’s becoming painfully obvious that the Rockies can’t compete
with the Giants without Jorge. I’m not sure they even can with Jorge.
The Giants have the best pitching in the league. That’s why they’re
up on the Phils in the NLCS, despite facing Halladay-Oswalt-Hamels.
The Rockies are going to compete for a Div. title with Jimenez-Chacin-
Cook-Hammel-Francis against Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner & Zito?
I don’t think so. And Kershaw-Billingsely-Lilly aren’t a bad Top 3 either.
I agree JDLR isn’t worth $11 mil/yr for 4 years, in an abstract sense.
But I also don’t think the Rockies can win a division title or a playoff series without him.
Pitching, pitching, pitching. That’s what it ultimately comes down to. That’s why
the Giants & Phils are in the NLCS. Without it, the Rox won’t get there, no matter
who plays 2B, who spells Helton and who fills the 3rd outfield slot.
Mediocrity sucks
I don't know
the playoffs might not be the best time to judge the quality of a teams pitching staff. SF is going to have a better pitching staff than us and I’m not sure there is much we can do to change that. The question is are they that much better than us? I’m also not sure that pitching purely is what leads to winning a division. What I mean by this is that if we had the NL best or one of the best offenses and a pitching staff that didn’t include JDLR I still like our chances for winning the division. I believe this mainly because SF offense is so inconsistent and our offense can out produce everyone else consistently. However once you start talking about the postseason you are exactly right.
Then we better load up on some sticks
I don’t think our current offense is going to be enough to overcome
SF’s pitching advantage. It would take Olivo having a full good year
and Stewart reaching hit potential, finally. I’d be surprised if either happens.
Mediocrity sucks
I think where I diagree with you
is that we are so far behind the Giants. I think we are closer than you think and I believe we can compete with them for the division with the team we have. However if we want to do what the Giants are doing in the postseason we will need to do things differently. I’m just not sure that means signing JDLR; i do agree with you that it means we need some stronger pitching. I also think that for the next three years the the Rox FO is going to have to change their philosophy and start going after some bigger names. This also means that PR reg’s are going to have to deal with parting with some of their favorite prospects.
No argument there
It’s not just money, it’s also good prospects that are
required to bring in top players.
To wit: Justin Smoak for 1/2 season of Cliff Lee.
Or: J.A. Happ to get Oswalt.
Mediocrity sucks
Let's see if he hits a rookie slump next year
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um, make that sophomore slump
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Yeah, maybe he'll be the reverse of Olivo
and only play well in the 2nd half of the season.
But I kinda doubt it.
Mediocrity sucks
Wow, pulling MadBum already?
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Well, that was a big ole backfire there Bochy...ha
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I would say so....Bumgarner looked like he's in shock
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This is true. You better get him out of there Bruce
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No, Joe Buck, Phillies offense didn't get going. They were gifted two runs...
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You know, if the Phils win this one
It becomes a 3-game series
Halladay-Oswalt-Hamels
v.
Lincecum-Sanchez-Cain
I love good pitching, and those would be 3 games really worth watching.
Mediocrity sucks
Victorino
What’s up with him tonight?
Failed to take 2B on the throw home that got Ruiz.
Made a stupid throw home w/ Andres Torres running
from 2B, who he had no chance of getting.
Not using his brain tonight.
Mediocrity sucks
No idea...weird for sure. Hanging with Timmy too much? A little Maui Wowee?
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"Now pitching for the Giants .... Jose Contreras, No. 52"
Which may also be his age.
Mediocrity sucks
hahah...Jose was pretty solid for us last season...
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and he just K'd Posey
who’s about half his age
“turning 39”, they said. I don’t believe it.
Mediocrity sucks
That's because
he muttered “. . . for the third time” after that.
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I see what you did there
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Seriously. The Giants haven't scored more than 4 runs since Sept 25? How the hell did they get this far..?
Stupid great pitching and stuff. grrrrrr
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Jeez...Cody Freakin' Ross AGAIN!!!!!
What the hell is in that guy’s wheaties??
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I tend to not wish players any harm
Even opposing players for teams I don’t like. (Like Texeira, for ex.)
But I’m starting to wish Cody Ross would die.
Mediocrity sucks
Like immediately
or a long, slow painful death?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Cody Ross is immortal
and indestructible.
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Is it me or his he Mitch Williams 2.0....?
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I was meaning his looks....
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He could totally be his little brother or son
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This has the potential to be a bad day of baseball
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:37 PM MDT reply actions
Yes yes it does.
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Wow, when did the Phillies suddenly start sucking?
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I think I'll have another beer
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Gold Glove Rollins kicking a DP ball
by Cody Ross will also make me puke.
Or drink heavily.
Or both
Mediocrity sucks
Jimmy Rollins took care of it
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions
If they pitch Ross inside, then the Phillies are idiots
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OH FFS!! Really J-Roll? ugh....
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I have a bad feeling about this
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Why couldn't the Phils have sucked like this when they faced us last year?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:48 PM MDT reply actions
This :( Gah, I'm so jealous
I hate the Giants
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2 reasons I can think of
Better starting pitching against them
Better pen … especially lefties.
Mediocrity sucks
Oh and Cliff Lee.....
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Twice in four games
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
why....God...whyyyy???!!!!!
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I will though, that this coverage is much better than TBS
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That's setting the bar pretty low
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
yes...yes it is..
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Holy moly, that was one huge panda head....wow..
I bet that is from that fan’s own personal collection….
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That was nice to see
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
And I hope it comes back to haunt the Giants
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes it was.
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I think he was a sad panda, in fact.
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Also an angry panda
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Leadoff double
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:58 PM MDT reply actions
Yes, Howard with a double!
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Not as painful for the Giants as the double Howard hit against us but I'll take it
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:59 PM MDT reply actions
I feel bad rooting against the Giants, only because my mom likes them 2nd after the Rockies.....
I’m not going to tell her..:P
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Did she read the crap they tried to sell at the end of this season
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I think she probably doesn't really remember most of it :(
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I'm sorry to hear that
How’s she doing?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Sadly, I haven't been able to speak with her for a couple of weeks. I've called
several times and neither she nor her beau are returning my calls. She’s having to have some iron treatments for her kidneys, but I think it’s helping from what my brother in law told me.
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:-(
I hope you get to speak to her soon
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
My dad grew up a Giants fan (he's pretty sure he was at one of the Willie Mays famous catch games).
But I don’t feel guilty.
You are awesome
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions
You're Welcome
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't feel guilty normally.:)
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FAIR BAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TIE GAME!!!
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:02 PM MDT reply actions
One big difference between Phils this year & last is Rollins
He’s not what he was a year ago
Mediocrity sucks
Neither is Utley
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
The Giants better fail here
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:14 PM MDT reply actions
That'll work
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope Wilson gets a big fat 'L" in this game
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:19 PM MDT reply actions
I was hoping he'd be called safe
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:22 PM MDT reply actions
Not nearly as much as I hate the Yankees
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I think my hate for the Giants is far more personal than my hate for the Yankees, since I know that team way better.
I know both teams WAY too well
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I would imagine living out East.
I can’t say I watched a single Yankees game this year until the playoffs.
Well you will watch at least three of their games next year when the Rockies go to the bronx
(I may have to go to one of those games)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I sat in Citizens Bank park and watched Phillies fans laugh Ubaldo off the mound
I’d really prefer they just end up in hell, but it’s not like I wish a better fate for the Giants
All of this is why Texas really needs to win the World Series
It’s the least objectionable option
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
For me, not only the least objectionable
but probably actually something I would feel pretty good about. I think I like that team.
I agree with this
The more I watch them the more I like them
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd like to agree with this
but they don’t play real baseball in the A.L. perhaps the only real good situation for baseball is the Rockies winning the world series.
That doesn't mean you can't like players in the AL.
It’s not like the actual players (except I suppose DHs and pitchers not hitting) aren’t real baseball players.
This is what is killling me.
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I can if it's Rangers Giants
If it’s Phils/Rangers I’ll be torn
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
And I don't know if he was safe
I was just hoping he was called safe
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions
It's about time for Utley to do something useful
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:24 PM MDT reply actions
Lost my internet there for a minute....and um OSWALT?
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Eek.
I don’t like this. Come on, Roy!
(How weird that one team’s top two pitchers are both named Roy? What are the odds?)
This is not good
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:34 PM MDT reply actions
I think the outfield is too deep
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:35 PM MDT reply actions
I need a bucket
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:38 PM MDT reply actions
well that's crappy. Why on earth didn't Charlie go with Lidge?
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Seems backward...go with Lidge first and then go to Oswalt for extras...but that's just me
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I love going to Oswalt
he completely shut down the Giants in game 2.
Agreed. But he normally doesn't come in these situations....
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of course but it is the post season
it was a bold move but I like it
hmm, I never noticed that....or is it just Jim Tracy that has me confused.
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Well, this is true....
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Yeah I don't think Tracy usually puts
Street in in those situations
I can't really remember...
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Because if it goes extras, they'd need someone for the bottom of the 10th.
Here they were still tied. They were going to need another pitcher no matter what.
Gah...I really hate this team. I mean really, like a lot...
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Everything they do just works out right now
Take the 9th inning there. Uribe is hit with the 1-1 pitch, the ump gets the call wrong and he ends up driving in the winning run later in the at bat.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I just want to punch Brian Wilson in the face.
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I want to watch you punch Brian Wilson in the face
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Panda, Ross and Uribe with clutch hits
it’s like we live in wonderland all of the sudden
This is not wonderland. This is HELL
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I wouldn't be happy that the Phillies were winning as much I would be happy that the Giants
would be losing. Don’t confuse those two sentiments:) I’m rooting against the Giants, not really for the Phillies…except I will root FOR Halladay.
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I don't want the Phillies to win
and while I can’t forgive the Giants for accusing us for cheating and i hope they burn for this, I hope the Rockies make them burn next year. I can’t stand another Phillies WS appearance I hope they get killed
Yeah but do you really want to hear the phrase defending NL Champion Giants next season?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Think of the headlines
defending NL champs go down 18-0 to the Rocks, Coors field shows no mercy Rocks crush NL champs again. Ubaldo out pitches the Freak Again. Cain no match for Hammel and Rocks Offense.
Giants/Rox is always evenly contested and will be for several years
A rivalry is developing and I don’t want them to get the upper hand
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah I think they kind of have the upper hand right now
this doesn’t mean we can’t beat them. I honestly believe they got lucky. For example Cody Ross? They are on the decline we can beat them.
* Sorry fix above
Cain not Abel to match Hammel or Rocks offense :)
That would just kill me. Ugh......
I don’t care if the Phillies fly that flag again, because we won’t have to look at 10-15 times a year….
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Plus the Rockies will look really good if they are the team that dethrones the Phils after the Dodgers and Giants couldn't the previous three seasons in the NLCS
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I wonder what the Dodger fans are thinking right now?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:42 PM MDT reply actions
The only good news is that I feel pretty confident Philly will come back in this series
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:43 PM MDT reply actions
I wish I shared that confidence
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I think Halladay has a HUGE game tomorrow
Once it gets back to Philly I have a hard time seeing the Giants win one of those games. I know the Giants have the big advantage because they only have to win one game but I think the Phils have the advantage in each game by itself. (Hamels vs. Cain will be totally different in Philly if it gets there)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope you are right. :)
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Well how do you feel about tomorrow's game by itself?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the evil Giants have made a pact with the devil...
and they will win :(
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Also, they'll probably get 1 run on some fluky bloop hit or some other crappy way to win
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The Pads made a pact with the devil too if you remember
We all saw how that worked out for them
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
That was just the Black Heart of Eckstein(tm Destro)
I don’t remember how that arose…:) We need Destro’s insight here.
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Jeff thinks the Pads did too
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
heh
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I want to respond to my comment below Jeff's with "Yes" :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Also
Since the Giants moved to San Fran in 1957, no team has consistently failed in big spots more than them.
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