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Wednesday Rockpile: Lilly Gets Paid, De La Rosa Waits

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JDLR Watch

After seeing that fellow LHP free agent Ted Lilly has officially re-signed with the Dodgers for what is announced as a 3 year, $33 million contract with a two year full no-trade clause and a $3.5 million signing bonus spread over three years (Jon Heyman called it a bargain), the focus on Jorge De La Rosa becomes even sharper. According to the Denver Post, the southpaw is currently awaiting an offer from the Rockies, though he will likely wait until he can gauge interest from other teams until he makes a decision.

The Lilly deal, contrary to what Jon Heyman says, looks like an overpay to me. Lilly will be 35 on Opening Day and the deal runs through his age-37 season. The decline risk, plus the fact that Lilly might not even be good enough to justify his salary in the first year of the contract, makes me extremely wary (and glad the Dodgers gave this contract out). RJ Anderson of Fangraphs agrees with me and uses some math to back his reasoning up. It's quite possible that LA was simply blinded by Lilly's performance in a small sample size as a Dodger.

Which brings me to De La Rosa. Lilly has much more of a track record than JDLR of MLB success (four seasons of 3+ WAR and very few injuries), but he's five years older and arguably has a lower ceiling over the next three years. We'll see if De La Rosa's lack of a track record and perceived risk drop him into the Rockies' price range (which appears to max out at around 3/24, close to what they paid Huston Street). I'd be willing to go up to 3/27 for JDLR, but the Lilly contract makes me wonder if even that will get it done for Jorge. I wouldn't count on it.

The DP article mentions that the Rockies will likely need to make a quick move if they want to retain Melvin Mora, that they will monitor Jason Giambi's situation, and that Tulowitzki is finally sans-mullet. Finally.

Ian Stewart Shows Ambition

In an article by Thomas Harding, the Rockies' third baseman announced that next year he wants to rise to the level of Tulo and CarGo, where his name in the lineup is written in stone. With new hitting coach Carney Lansford, Stewart will focus on improving against left-handed pitching (and requests to be given the opportunity to face them) and avoid falling behind 0-2 so many times.

It's good to see that Stewart wants to improve, but ultimately he's got to be the change he wants to see. If Stewart does alter his approach at the plate successfully, Colorado will have a third cost-controlled force in their lineup through their championship window.

Other News

EY2 is going to see EY1 quite a bit next year, as the Rockies' inaugural second baseman was named as the Diamondbacks' first base coach yesterday. My hope is that he sends Arizona runners against CarGo's arm all season long.

Mark Kiszla does his job, I guess, comparing Carmelo to Tulo (you know, in that neither will stay in Colorado his entire career). Personally, I see the Rockies ponying up for Tulowitzki just as they gave money to Todd Helton, with the shortstop staying a Rockie his entire career. In any case, Kiszla is seriously getting ahead of himself because Tulo is signed through 2014 (though he does recognize Colorado's championship window runs through that point).

Steve Foster of Inside the Rockies writes about the performance of Rockies prospects so far in the Arizona Fall League. It's important to note that actual numbers in the league matter much less than how the players look while performing. Rex Brothers is a primary example of this: he's got a 3.00 WHIP and a 13.50 ERA, but he's received the most praise from scouts on his AFL work (namely, his velocity and movement).

Finally, our own WolfMarauder reports (through Project LIBRA) that Paul Phillips and Juan Rincon have declared minor league free agency and very well could be in other organizations soon. If that is the case, I'd like to thank those gentlemen for their services as a Rockie.

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I am going to go ahead and agree with you there that Lilly’s contract is way high. They must have just been looking at his line against the Rockies.

Quick question: Is the JDLR watch link supposed to go to the same place as the OT?

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by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 8:23 AM MDT reply actions  

I have no idea what you're talking about.

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 20, 2010 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Clearly Lilly's contract is way high

However, unless every front office interested in LH starters feels the same way, the Dodgers just effectively priced JDLR out of the Rockies’ budget, because JDLR will get at least as much $$$ as Lilly, and more likely an extra year.

So now we’re at 4/$44m, and JDLR just isn’t worth that, except in potential.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought political references were out?

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 8:26 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm not sure to what you are referring, my good sir.

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 20, 2010 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

[…] but ultimately he’s got to be the change he wants to see.

I was kidding, and it’s attributed to Gandhi so it wasn’t even really a joke. So… poop on my face.

But it’s nice to see Stewart doesn’t want to become a platoon guy. All the people riled up about his twitter should pat him on the back for that quote. Very Tulo-esque.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I’m loving that Stewie came out and said it. Now, time to get to work and fix it.

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by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Go Rangers!!

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 8:57 AM MDT reply actions  

So What do you think Ross would cost?

I know his NLCS will boost him.

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by Oldfoagie on Oct 20, 2010 9:00 AM MDT reply actions  

He’s not actually a Free Agent; I believe Sabean has said he’ll definitely be tendered a contract.

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by jponry on Oct 20, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

I take it Giants fans like him quite a bit more now

Than the night when he butchered CarGo’s game changing triple?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cliff Lee and the Yankees

JC Bradbury makes a good point via the WSJ:

If they do, the tax’s rate will be 40%. For every $20 million the Yankees might pay Mr. Lee, then, they’d actually be spending $28 million.

"Let’s say another team wants him and isn’t going to have to pay the luxury tax," Dr. Bradbury said. "If they offer him a $22 million-a-year deal, they’re really paying less money out of their pocket than the Yankees. The Yankees [might] say, ‘To give you $22 million, we’re going to have to spend $30 million off our budget, so it’s not worth it.’ "

When people think the Yankees can run payroll up to infinity, it’s actually infinity plus the luxury tax.

Bradbury also suggests Lee could command $32M/year. The team who pays that is insane.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:02 AM MDT reply actions  

This is what makes mr think Swisher might be available as a cost reduction on the Yank's part.

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by Oldfoagie on Oct 20, 2010 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

One of the problems I have with that theory, besides that NY doesn’t have a viable in-house replacement and would have to pay as much or more to get the same production from a FA, is that Swisher is a friend of CC, and CC has an opt out clause after 2011.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think Hank is itching to make the Yanks in his and not his Dad's image.

 I think he’s ready to bite the bullit and reduce payroll.

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by Oldfoagie on Oct 20, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, I see. You mean they’d be willing to trade Swisher to reduce the luxury tax hit, not to free up room for Lee? Maybe. I doubt he’d cut payroll without having an alternative RF plan, and I can’t see a plan that provides the same production as Swisher for a lower cost.

More likely, I think they sign lower cost starters this winter instead of Lee. The payroll will be lowered by virtue of replacing Petitte and Vasquez with with Joba/Nova and back end FA.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Part of Cost reduction is getting younger...

They’d have to trade Swisher for that reduction in age and money.

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by Oldfoagie on Oct 20, 2010 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

No matter how much Hank may not be his father,

he is not going to sacrifice the on-field product to save money.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Respectfully Disagree....

 He has an ageing core he needs to replace and has shown popularity is no garuantee of staying a yank. He can’t continue to field a team of thirty somethings forever at these cost levels and still keep his onfield product level. Something will have to give. Swisher is the one affordable star he can trade for prospects. He can put Granderson in RF if he has to and Garner in CF and any number of spare parts in LF.

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by Oldfoagie on Oct 20, 2010 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Except that, as you noted before, Swisher is aging. He’ll be 30 going into next season. I have no idea what return he’d bring, but it wouldn’t net them enough to cover his production.

The cost reduction will happen even as they re-sign their aging core (however much of a mistake that is). Jeter will make less than $21M, Rivera will make less than $15M (probably), and Pettitte will make less than $12M (probably) or be gone.

After 2011, there’s no way Posada will be on the team at $13M/season. Also, ARod’s contract is front loaded and will decrease in yearly value after next year.

It’s not smart to keep Jeter at short for another 4 or 5 years, but there’s a lot of cost savings already built into the payroll.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

And he doesn't nessasailly have the prospect he needs to replace that core.

That means he needs to replenish his farm

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by Oldfoagie on Oct 20, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, the only position where they don’t have an obvious solution to replacing the “core” is SS. Presumably, Joba or another guy could handle closer, Montero or Romine can take catcher, and Nova/Brackman should be able to be in the rotation.

Swisher is sort of like Brad Hawpe was to the Rockies: they’d never get a return that is equal to Swisher/Hawpe’s value to the team. You have to trade for less, or wait until his value is obviously diminished.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Like deacs said, Swisher is a bargain at his current production

I would think that would be percisely the person they would want to keep on their roster if they are trying to cut payroll.

In fact, if they really want to cut payroll so bad, all they have to do is not resign their overpaid stars like Jeter and Petitte

by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

i very much respect Bradbury

His work really piqued my interest in baseball analysis

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's a really smart guy

who writes about baseball in an enjoyable and comprehensible way.

I just always wondered why he gives contract projections (Lee is not the first) as if he was multiplying a player’s WAR times the dollar value of a win? (He obviously has his own formula, I’m just saying that’s how his formula comes off.) ARod is the only elite player who is close to being paid his actual value as determined by advanced metrics.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, yes. And noting that JC Bradbury, respected economist, is saying the same thing if you read between the lines.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

My gut still tells me the Yankees are going to sign him

I hope I’m wrong though

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm sure someone's laying odds, but possibly not until after the WS

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why was the homerun last night not reviewed?

I’m confused as to when replay can and can’t be used…

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:14 AM MDT reply actions  

Yankees conspiracy.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Damn Yankees.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

This.

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

look how wrong you are.

I was talking about the musical.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

When did he have time? Isn't always out bow-hunting these days?

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Among other pursuits.

He’s a kill to plate kind of guy.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is your real name Lola?

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was a show girl...

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

I am anxious to see your Hot Dog Fan Dance :)

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by Oldfoagie on Oct 20, 2010 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure (like Lola)

That what Maria wants, Maria gets!

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

The umpire has the discretion to

to determine if he thinks the ball would have been catchable. He determined no, and that fan interference wasn’t even up for debate.

Or the umpire is an idiot.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

It should have at least

been reviewed.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree. But the umpire made the decision that it didn't fall into the reviewable category

which is really shortsighted.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

and wrong.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hey I'm with you.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Here's a link to a great picture

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/10/one-home-run-overturned-why-wa.html

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

I sitll don't get it.

The guys are clearly touching his glove in the field of play. Is that not an automatic out?

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

It would be a ground rule double, I think.

Unfortunately, there’s no guarantee Cruz would have caught the ball. However, if it was ruled fan interference, I think that makes it a ground rule double…

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, I’ll guess I’ll have to take the 10-3 final in lieu of hitting the guy in the pinstripe jersey with a brick.

Because watching his reaction after the fact, that dude really needed to be hit with a brick.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes. yes he did.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

see to me...that's a DB

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Huh, something I didn't know from reading that:

Re tagging up, if the ball is juggled:

“Runners may leave their bases the instant the first fielder touches the ball.”

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by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Players select Hanley Ramirez as Sporting News Player of the Year at shortstop

Discuss

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:37 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

seriously?

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

No joke

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:40 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

How?

I’m stunned.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Derek Jeter is dismayed at this decision

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

/discussion

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Players are probably apt to look at games played

and conclude that by virtue of playing in 20 more games, Hanley provided more value. That, or they wanted to send him a cookie for the stupid media poopstorm that ensued his kicking the ball into the out field.

Or, players are dumb.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

I doubt many players are that analytical

And Hanley deserved that poop storm

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 9:51 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

They aren’t analytical in what way? Looking at two players who are thought of as equally talented and seeing that one played more?

Deserved it minus the self-righteousness from non-player TV commentators.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

i guess i assume if they notice one was out for a month

They would also notice that same guy had much better counting stats still

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s incomprehensible to anyone with a passing knowledge of the 2010 season, so maybe my explanation doesn’t even make sense.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

You would think

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

HOW ON .....what...I ....what?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

And?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

strike against him?

I’m more just throwing it out there as hopefully something to temper the “OMG SLIGHTED” fire that is raging

by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

would make sense

if Josh Hamilton was also penalized for being out most of September….

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

It could also be that players on other teams just personally dislike him for the various reasons jokingly or seriously enumerated here.

If we as fans see things that make him unappealing and draw the conclusion that we wouldn’t like him as a person, I’m sure other players see the same and more.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Okay..once and for all

What is so wrong with Tulo. What makes him so “unappealing” that we wouldn’t want to be his friend. I have seen people on here say they don’t like him. Specifics ,please, specifics !!!!

by butterfly on Oct 20, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’ve only seen one or two of these threads, so I don’t every reason, but the take-away from those is that his hyper-intense, demonstrative on-field demeanor indicates a personality that might be “brah-tastic” or overly aggressive in a social context. Also, the mullet looks like trash and is either meant to be a throwback to how blue collar and workman-like he is, or an ironic fashion statement. In the former, he’s not blue collar, and in the latter, that’s just DB.

So, he could be none of these things, but as fans we have no idea. SDCat will tell you all about how he doesn’t come off as privileged or arrogant, and she may be right too. It’s in the eye of the beholder.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ah… well, like I said I didn’t read through the whole threads. Nor do I necessarily agree with the negative assessments of his demeanor, as I was the same way when I played organized sports in my youth.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

You're misrepresenting my comment about Tulo.

It was in the context of the SoCal/Ian Stewart entitlement drama. I was merely pointing out that because Tulo is not from NoCal he could not possibly be either of those things, (which was sarcasm btw). I never said anything about him being arrogant or not.

Ask Muzia why people hate Tulo. I think he’s just a supremely confident young man and is hellagood at his job.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

err...*was from NoCal, not SoCal.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to go back through the threads, but I thought some of the somewhat supportive comments (or at least the ones challenging Muzia’s assessment) were not just in the Stewart/Tulo context. I’m probably wrong, but I needed you as a strawman.

The bottom line is that it shouldn’t matter what his demeanor is, but sportswriters and athletes are sensitive people who enjoy depriving talented freaks of their due because they don’t like the way they comb their hair.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

ugh

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

/admires Albert Belle poster in cubicle.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think he's a cocky showoff

and that he has “big market” in his long-term vision

the latter is pure speculation

He is a phenomenal baseball player, and there is not another SS I’d rather have. I just get the gut feeling that I won’t stand on at all that he is just biding his time with Colorado until he can go be the new Jeter.

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Dear Lord I hope you're wrong

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

RIRF and PIP are better at defending Tulo than I am...

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

he's a talented freak

and I like that he’s our talented freak.

Let me clarify: I think Tulo is a phenomenal talent, a great ballplayer. Great range, cannon arm, great bat. I love Tulo the player.

I hate Tulo the person. He rubs me as arrogant, flashy. If he was on another team, we would all HATE him, but he’s ours so everyone loves him. Except me. I like guys that work hard and make their names on the field. Tulo seems to take it one step further.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

This.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

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by Greg Stanwood on Oct 20, 2010 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ive never heard of either of those people

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by Resolution on Oct 20, 2010 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

In what ways does Tulo take it one step further?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh dear God

You say you “like guys that work hard and make their names on the field.”

Isn’t that exactly what Tulo does?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

/lollipop throw

because Jeter has his own trademark so Tulo needs one too, even though his arm would get the ball there faster if he set his feet.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

but the errors it creates don't matter because

WHOA LOOK AT HIS PHENOMENAL THROW

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wonder if his quad injury compelled him

to do more of this type of throw? Maybe he’s a little less agile now…?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

if anything, this throwing technique is worse on his quad

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Tulo has the best fielding percentage of any shortstop in the HISTORY OF BASEBALL!!!!!!

I doubt those throws are causing more errors

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hi, Todd Helton.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

look, you're in love with him

I don’t like the guy.

There is no middle ground here.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

In fairness...

RIRF is making actual arguments here with statistical evidence. He’s not just painting hearts.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

See below. Career FP% leaderboard is not really an argument. It’s neat, but it’s meaningless when Tulo has 10-15 years of baseball ahead of him, and the people behind him played SS into their late 30s with all sorts of expected decline.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's a good counter argument.

“Hi, Todd Helton” is not.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

here are my stats

Muzia’s hate percentage towards Tulo 74%

That’s it. I don’t like the guy the same way people don’t like brussel sprouts. And I am not alone in my sentiment.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Since when do brussel sprouts

make jump throws?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Duh...

Brussel Sprouts are slap-shot experts.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

But I thought we were talking about

baseball Brussel Sprouts…?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

My bad....

I misread jump thows as jump-shots, and thought you had opened it to all sports.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

hahaha....

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's Brussels Sprouts

two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00

NOW who comes out on top?

by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

In Bruge?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Do you realize that FP% is completely meaningless in the context of how good someone is at getting to the most balls?

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

They give all of those to Helton.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Helton has 16 errors since Tulo started playing in 07

I have no idea how to find out how many errors came on throws from Tulo but I’m guessing very few

by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

It was just something to say. I didn’t look up any numbers.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with you that Tulo probably will start losing range as he gets older

but to hate him for this throwing motion by stating that it creates errors is just completely false

by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's okay to not like a guy's personality.

To each his own. But I think for other players to penalize him because of his personality vs talent seems….I dunno…can’t think of the word.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

I said he is a phenomenal player

I’m glad he’s with Colorado.

Doesn’t change my opinions of him.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Right...I'm not saying you have to like the guy even a little bit.

This is going back to why did they pick HanRam instead of Tulo…..

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tulo was the best SS in the league this year.

Bar none.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

He's also easily my least favorite Rockie

I wonder why I get crucified for that around here

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

I totally understand where you are at.

I would hate Tulo if he was on any other team but ours.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

This exactly.

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't, I love players who show that intensity

For instance, I hate the Red Sox but I like Pedroia

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would likely end Pedroia's life if given the chance

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

OOO--KAY

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

I see him as a total toolbox

if he played for, say Milwaukee, you would think the same thing

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

PIP is one of the few members who has actually met him...

and we know where she stands on this issue.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Met him, or "met" him

like in a hotel. Because I’ve heard some stories about hookers and hiding in closets about the Mayflower Hotel in DC.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

WOW!!!! that is like not even funny

PIP is a teenager deacs…you might want to retract that little ditty

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

I realized that that comment probably came off in the wrong way after I hit post. I did not mean to imply anything about PIP, rather it was just a segue to inserting a dirty joke.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not

I like players that work hard, are really intense, exude confidence, care about the community, get the big picture, and care about the history of the game.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why do you have to personally like a guy because he’s on your team? Emotionally investing yourself in an athlete who plays for your team is a fool’s errand. Mostly because you have no idea what the person is like off the field.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

You don't, and no one is saying you do.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

RIRF is saying that

It just makes me sad that you dislike a guy on our team who works as hard as he does and gets the big picture

As Muzia has already stated that Tulo the Player is a dreamboat, RIRF can only be referring to Tulo the Person, which, not knowing him personally, we can all reasonably disagree in opinion.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is a very long story

I wrote a fan post about this

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know

But you’re reaching the tipping point of unreasonableness in not allowing that people can dislike [Rockies player] the Person while still admiring [Rockies player] the Player.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

RIRF never said one is not allowed

to dislike Tulo. He just feels sad that they don’t.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

This

And I’m still struggling to understand why they don’t

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why do some people not like broccoli?

Some things are just a personal preference that doesn’t make sense (and doesn’t need to).

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, I dislike Pedroia

for no logical reason. So to each his own.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Perhaps “not allowing” was the wrong phrase. RIRF is not accepting that people are happy to like the player and not like the person.

Tulo aside, is there anything wrong with that formula?

If there isn’t, then those who dislike Tulo because of his demeanor have explained themselves. There is an impasse.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm just trying to figure out

what about his demeanor they find annoying. I don’t really care that much, I’m just curious.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, it’s not the demeanor that bothers me. It’s the dumb stuff that arises from the demeanor, as Maria noted.

And I’d agree with the people about the throwing style.

Otherwise, I’m happy to like him as a person from a distance, and I’m happy to love him as a player. Like run on to the field and smother him in gravy love.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

he is a great player

has a lot of passion for the game – and you see that in the way he plays.

But that also gets in the way of him being a better player. He needs to control his passion – especially when things aren’t going right.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Soooooo...

more like Ian Stewart?

;-)

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ha.

No.

He does DB things when the going gets tough – like slam his bat down and slice his hand open making him miss time away from the team.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I completely argee that Tulo's inability to control his passion is his fatal flaw

But I relate to that so for me that makes me like him even more as a character

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

but that hurts the team in

the long run. That is what I don’t like about him.

The greats harness their passion – and unleash it when it is most needed. The others fall short because they can’t control it – I’m afraid tulo might fall into this category.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think Tulo has learned a great deal

about controlling his temper after 08. The guy is just now 25….he’ll get wiser

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

I turned 26 this year and started doing all kinds of weird, illogical things. So… you never know.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh really
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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

He didn't break the bat

himself. It broke on the play. He took that final shard and stabbed in the ground. I have no real problem with that.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

But it's a good example of how

he doesn’t have full control of his temper.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

So you have no problem

with him taking a sharp object and stabbing it into the ground? What if he had sliced the tendons on his hand while doing that? Stupid DB move.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

My opinion of that move

was that he was frustrated for sure. Angry even. I don’t think he was in danger of hurting himself. It seemed to me that while it was a spur of the moment thing, he thought about it for a moment, before doing it. That’s all I’m saying. He took the end that was in his hand already and just jabbed into the ground. It’s now quite the same as him shattering a bat against a wall.

Also, I don’t know what DB means….

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

*not

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Something only girls do to clean themselves.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

I just laughed out loud in my cube. I better get back to work before they realize what I’m doing.

by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

If he thought about it for a moment

that’s even worse. It means he can’t understand the consequences of doing something stupid like that.

If he didn’t think about it, it’s a purely irrational, dangerous move.

Slamming the bat shard into the ground was a lose lose.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Being frustrated

and angry is no excuse to do something that could harm you – and by extension your team.

Did he think he would slice his hand open when he slammed the bat into the ground? no – but he did – and that hurt the team.

And the fact that he thought about doing – and still did it – is what bugs me. He should have thought about it – and walked away.

Until he can control his frustration and anger – he will never be a great player.

DB = douchebag

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I see.....

re DB…thanks for clarifying.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

A doucebag is probably something you were around your leg and related to gastric problems.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

exactly, getting upset at yourself for screwing up isnt DB

being a DB is watching a HR from the box, throwing a broken bat at a player running down to first, calling “I got it” when there is an infield popup and youre running the bases

by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL, did someone actually do that?

re: yelling “I got it”?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

AROD did it.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

wow...I had never heard that

story before. Makes me dislike him even more.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

There is absolutely nothing not DB about AFraud

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

awesomely effective cheater and roid user, too

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

ok

but we should adore him and his intensity for consistently putting himself in places of personal long-term risk to help his team. Definition of a team player, right there.

by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't adore him for crap

What long term risk, besides that to his health from roid use and allegedly sexing STD-ridden actresses?

$500m can mitigate a ton of risk.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

get upset yes.

But don’t ever do something to harm yourself – and cause injury to your team.

It is the second half of it that makes it DB. It is putting your personal frustration over the needs of your team.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, the guy is only human

Would that we all could not lose our tempers and not have to regret dumb things that we do.

Again, I see his homeplate thing as a totally different circumstance.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

But you

aren’t the leader of a team that has the talent to win a WS.

If he wants to lead – he needs to control his temper on the field.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

He's always controlled his

temper during games. That was at the END of the game. Done deal.

I’ve never once seen Tulo lose it during a game, never. If anything, he keeps his head about him beyond his years.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why doesn't

the end of the game matter? You can still injure yourself when the game is over right?

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

My interpretation was that

there was no real risk to Tulo hurting himself, nor the team, by clutching the not shattered end of a bat and flipping said piece straight into the ground. (Also, I really do think it was just a coincidence that the bat impaled as it did)

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Again, apply that situation to anyone but Tulo

and tell me what you think? In particular, apply to a player you don’t like.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry I don't understand your question.

If ARod did the same thing I really wouldn’t care…I would laugh, much as I did with Tulo…

the reason I laughed was that it was ultimately perfectly fitting end to the season.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

It really was quite poetic

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

By this measure

Any player who has celebrated after a game winning hit is in the wrong because kendry Morales saw his season end after celebrating a walk off home run.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah it's all Kendry's fault

seriously, RIRF? use some common sense

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maris said that players need to control their emotions so that they don't put their team at risk

By that rule Morales failed to control his emotions and cost his team

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

by trying to step on home plate and getting mobbed by his teammates.

uh-huh. It appears we have a different definition for..basically everything.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't see the connection between the two incidents

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Players failed to control their emotions and got hurt because of it

As a result, their team suffered

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm punting on this topic too

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Frankie?

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Both were stupid actions

that hurt their teams.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

it wasn't a stupid action

it was the same walkoff celebration that every player ever uses, jumping on home plate into the moshpit

by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

I guess I just really didn't see that particular

move as that big of a deal.

I don’t disagree that he’s made mistakes. I’ve really never seen him lose his cool during a game at all. It was the end of the game, last AB. It didn’t cost us anything.

His explosion when he tore up his hand was because he was taken out of the game by Hurdle and he lost it. I don’t expect he’ll behave that way ever again.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

You didn’t consider losing the best player on the team for 13 games in the middle of the season over something that was entirely preventable as a big deal?

I mean, I know they were way under .500 but that’s still a huge problem.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

correct.......

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, its a huge difference

I was extremely pissed at Tulo for nearly destroying his whole career with his temper tantrum. I’m pretty sure it scared him silly, how close he could have been to injuring his hand permanently.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

I’m talking about him jabbing the broken bat in the ground on the last play of the game at the end of the season??

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

My bad.

I’ve been flipping between this and work and missed a series of comments.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree that Tulo needs to contrpl his temper better

It’s just that the intensity he shows makes me like him as a person even more becasue I relate to it.

I once broke my hand after punching a wall after the Rockies lost.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

I once punched a bathroom wall at a party because yadda yadda yadda and it bled like crazy. That was intense and passionate, so why did everyone look at me like I was a freak?

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't know

They should have made sure you were allright

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

They did both, which is exactly what people are saying: they can look at Tulo’s behavior and think “wtf?” and yet still care that he’s on the field producing for the Rockies.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

wow.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

But those

actions hurt him – and the team.

I can’t like a person for doing things that harm the Rockies. Any time that Tulo is off the field is bad for this team.

If he wants to be the leader – he needs to start acting like one.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

But he doesn't intend to hurt the team

That’s the thing. It’s just his passion blowing up in his face. He cares almost too much and there’s something I love about that.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

He didn't intend to

but the end results did hurt the team.

He needs to grow up – and control his passion.

Because when he is injured doing something stupid – it hurts the team.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Also if you need more proof about Tulo's character

Look at why the Rockies drafted him. DOD has said they liked Tulo’s character as much as his game and that the reason the Indians didn’t win a World Series in the 90’s is because those teams didn’t have a character like Tulo.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

also, because they are from Cleveland

Cleveland is fated to never win a championship.

If anything is to blame, let’s blame Jose Mesa

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Mesa would

have listened to a 12 year old kid

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

No

I like people who show emotion and passion regardless of what level they are playing at

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

If you’re a father and your son slams a bat shard into the ground because he’s being removed from the game, cutting his hand open and requiring a trip to the ER, do you reward with adulation him for caring too much?

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wasn't talking about that

I was reffering to what he did in the Dodger game this season.

The other one I don’t defend at all. I can just relate to his actions even though I know they were wrong.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Take the Dodger game scenario and apply to a father/son relationship. Do you reward your son with adulation for that behavior?

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

love and adulation are not the same thing.

No one has said that Tulo slamming the bat that disintegreted over being removed from a game is proper behavior.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I did not picture you as being of the marriage age.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Erm...you're over 16 right?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

HAHA Yes

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

So you are of marriageable age.

Not saying you SHOULD get married….lol

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, what are you going to do

tase him? (joke)

Of course, you’re going to admonish him about this behavior. And teach him that this is not ideal or proper behavior. You can teach the child to redirect the anger.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

There is serious equivocating going on here.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Welcome to my world

anytime Tulo is mentioned

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Equivocating how?

I would teach my child that behavior is absolutely wrong. Would I withdraw my love for my child because he/she made a mistake and tell them they can’t play anymore? Of course not.

Also, Tulo is NOT a child. He learned his lesson I believe. He could have lost his entire career for that temper tantrum.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

that's one word I'd use, yes

or another one that ends in ‘ating’

Is it bad that I almost typed ‘%ating’

by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Newspapers stories do not count as knowing whether or not someone’s wiser than the previous season. I mean, half the stuff they print everyone would acknowledge as crap. That makes the other half, especially the fluff pieces, hard to take seriously.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

maybe Tulo will develop a cutter this offseason too

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

That would be sweet.

I know he could totally do it.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry Muzia. No one is intending to crucify you here.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

I’ve said my peace. I’m done with this discussion.

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

You might want to alter you sig line then

:P

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

technically, my sigline combo

implies I wish harm to Galiardi and success to Tulo

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Say what?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

His love is like a rock and he loves Galiardi...

do the math

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah I don't do math.....

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Or Muzia is stuck...

…between Iraq and Gallardi place

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

/groan

Well played, Mondo

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

PurpleRow - Srs Bizness

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

PurpleRow--Take this seriously

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

WHY ARENT YOU DEAD YET

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by Resolution on Oct 20, 2010 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t hang my hat on .0007 difference between him and a man 18 years older and with 9000 more chances than him.

The same applies to the multitude of other players who are years older than Tulo and within a hundredth of his FP%.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bottom line is that he IS the best now and will end his career as either the best or one of the best

Tulo’s defensive style helps the Rockies and we should love that

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

No one is saying they don’t love it, but some people are realistic and don’t expect that to keep up given his body type. He’s not going to be the same fielder at 35 as he is at 25, and to use a “stat” that compares him to people who played shortstop into their late 30s is meaningless.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

So you hate him because of a throwing style?

That’s absurd

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's bad technique.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Did you read the addendum? Tulo could be an even better fielder if he actually utilized the fundamental footwork and throws that he is capable.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

but he won't because it's his trademark now

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

I doubt he'd be better

Tulo has found a way to throw that accurately of balance and he’s using it to his advantage.

Others have to have that footwork because they can’t do what Tulo does.

If there was a way for Tulo to get better I serious doubt he wouldn’t do it.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

then why does he lead the league in popups

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Because Barmes didn't play every day

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tulo led MLB in popup RATE

By quite a margin. And higher than Barmes

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 11:54 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Iteresting

Well I guess that’s a good thing in some ways. That means he can cut down on that and get even better.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

actually, his LD% has gone down the past 3 seasons

while his popup rate has remained very high. If anything, he’s getting worse

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Listen to this.

When I went to the Rockies vs. Giants game in August, I sat next to Tulo’s girlfriend’s friend’s dad. The girlfriends were to the left of the dad, and they said they went to the game to watch Tulo play (unfortunately he didn’t even play that game). So I asked the dad if Tulo was a nice guy and stuff and the dad said yes, he was a really good kid. Very nice and polite.

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by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Doesn't mean he can't have a girlfriend!

Plays into the view that he’s a jerk…

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

HAHA

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

He probably meant Tulo's wife's friend's dad.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's how I read it as well

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

LOL wife*

Sorry.

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by CentralCaliRox on Oct 20, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll get really upset for you.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

thanks,

I was doing okay,until it started to get about Tulo personally and now I’m pessed !

by butterfly on Oct 20, 2010 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just think

This whole discussion could have been avoided if the players got this right :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha......

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

probably

It was a good discussion to have. Now that specifics have been addressed and both sides have voiced their opinions. Now, we can respect each others views and agree that it is good we have him on our team no matter what our personal feelings are about the guy…
(for awhile, anyway )

by butterfly on Oct 20, 2010 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

(for awhile, anyway )

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Until the Great ShortStop War of 2011

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

What great SS war?

Tulo’s our SS, should be our SS for life :)

Of course, Chris Nelson should be the backup SS or Herrera..:)

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

honestly I'm not surprised with the Lilly contract, it was right about what I expected him to get

Now do I think he deserves that much money, no. I also don’t think that DLR will get that much.

by purplesocks on Oct 20, 2010 10:00 AM MDT reply actions  

Did you all read that the fan who ran out onto the field in Game 3

was allegedly going after A-Rod? I dislike the guy, but this is a scary thing….Check this out

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/20/this-is-kind-of-scary-that-fan-from-game-3-was-going-after-a-rod/?related=1

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:01 AM MDT reply actions  

Yikes.

I hate that story. Monica Seles was my favorite tennis player, and it always depressed me to think of how good she would’ve been.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

That was ridic.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

that is scary.

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by hotdoglady on Oct 20, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Dugout also dealt with this guy...

but their treatment was much funnier.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Carney Lansford is such a cool name.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 AM MDT reply actions  

stfu

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Avs game tomorrow.

I expect you to be there. THEN we do the <3 thing.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is OT

you need to take this to OT

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

stfu

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

...wp

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 20, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

interesting analysis of the intentional walk to Murphy preceding the Molina home run

By Matt Klaassen on his twitter page (devil_fingers). Acc to Tom Tango, an intentional walk in that precise situation is a good tactical move if the player you are walking has a wOBA of 1.26 times greater than the one you end up facing.

Using CHONE and platoon splits, Murphy has an expected wOBA of 1.22 times more than Molina. It was a bad tactical move by Girardi, and he got burned. But it wasn’t obscenely horrible

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 10:19 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I hope EY2 gets on base lots, and has lots of chances to meet with his dad.

But I’ll keep expecting EY1 to try to give EY2 his Boo-Boo and Woobie every time.

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by glaucophane on Oct 20, 2010 11:43 AM MDT reply actions  

Heh. I was wondering if they will continue running that ad.....it's one of my favorites to be sure.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure theyll have six completely new ones for next year

Maybe Cargo will pummel the Philly Phanatic with his bat like a pinata until tacos come out

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe they'll show a meteor crashing into AT&T Park, followed by....

…2011 Colorado Rockies, perpetual NL West champions.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I approve of this idea.

Or, maybe Dinger and the Phanatic could brawl?

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

They won't run it next season....typically use a whole new batch of commercials

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Probably another....

Humidifier Add

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Oct 20, 2010 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Can we get a Jon Miller impersonator?

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

If EY2 gets on base lots and has lots of chances to meet with his dad....

….that will require some offseason trade activity.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I approve of this plan

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Though I'd be happy with any 2nd baseman who gets on base a lot.

Or any other position, too. Just better offense, please.

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by glaucophane on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Would still require offseason trade activity

For him to get to meet his dad while standing on 1B, his dad would have to be 1B coach of his team, not the opposite team.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh. Duh. That's right.

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by glaucophane on Oct 20, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Of course, they can hang out pregame

But then, we’d be ragging on EY2 for not focusing on game preparations…

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

As long as he's not tweeting about booboo

he’s cool.

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm really looking forward to today's game.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

C'mon

Yankees, there is nothing in the latter part of your sentence to indicate possession. And only southerners would refer to the Yankee’s as possessing anything. Like their homes, land and women.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Really deacs? you're gonna casbah this...

Also, don’t the Yankees own Yankee Stadium?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

This week, the Rangers own Yankee Stadium

and their fans.

Who’s their daddy now?

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

While I agree with this in principle

I was trying to explain to deacs, that the Yankees do in fact own Yankee Stadium.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure. I believe no taxpayer money was involved. I'd have to research

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nope, I'm wrong.

$2.3 billion, including $1.2 billion in taxpayer subsidies. Interesting. You would think a team with Yankee dollars would fund there own ballpark, that the didn’t really need to begin with.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

So the public owns 50% of Yankee Stadium...

…which they repay to the Steinbrenners in $2500 chunks.

No wonder I hate NY.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Evidently

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

A public subsidy in the form of bonds does not imply that the city owns a part of New Yankee Stadium. There is a repayment schedule in place that involves the city receiving revenue from parking, leases, etc…

None of that makes public financing for Citifield or New Yankee Stadium any better.

by deacs on Oct 20, 2010 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is it still your home turf if all your faux fans leave early?

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

They lasted almost as long as their "fans"

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll second that!

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think 40,000 Phillies fans just said, "Oh no you didn't!!"

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by BittenAnkles on Oct 20, 2010 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think he was really bothered by the language being used and that it was teenagers

I recall….I’m sure he gets heckled nonstop

probably by Muzia and RMN more than anyone else (oh come on , I’m just kidding)

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

/contemptuouschipper.gif

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by Muzia on Oct 20, 2010 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep

It was from this game

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dumb Rangers.

two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00

NOW who comes out on top?

by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 3:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Meh...they've score 5 runs in every game...

except the 1st game. I believe the Rangers will make a comeback

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I never knew the Yankees radio person was a lady.

good for her.

two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00

NOW who comes out on top?

by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

You're not speaking of Suzye Waldman....cause she's terrible

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

dunno

just heard a comparison of teams with A.J.‘s and C.J.’s that had me scratching my head.

two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00

NOW who comes out on top?

by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Uh, yeah. That sounds like her.

I think it was someone here who said the other guy does all the play by play, so she just rambles about useless crap the whole game. With her super, super annoying voice.

by holly96 on Oct 20, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

They're just being nice allowing the Yankees to win their final home game of 2010

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looks like it's starting :) !

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ffffnnnn Yankees!

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rangers on the board 5-1 now

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 3:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Yay!

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bah, Josh Hamilton epicfail

I mean, Hanley Ramirez could have pulled off that move.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 3:57 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out when a mistake

begins epic failure…..

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, I dunno, not even watching (at work)...but GIDP in that spot is always a fail

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Oct 20, 2010 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ugh Nelson Cruz out with a hamstring strain...that's no bueno

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 4:03 PM MDT reply actions  

So who's pitching tomorrow? What time is the game? (NY/TX)

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 4:17 PM MDT reply actions  

I think it's a travel day tomorrow if it goes back to Texas

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

but it would be Cliff Lee

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Oct 20, 2010 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it would be Lewis actually.

Lee is slated for a Game 7

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 20, 2010 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

What why? Why would they not go with Lee in an elimination game

on regular rest? It would be regular rest would it not?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lee pitched Monday right? And they wouldn't play again until Friday...

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Which is only three days of rest.

Full rest would be on Saturday, which is game 7

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 20, 2010 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I see...

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Huey Lewis and the News singing Star Spangled Banner on NLCS

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 5:44 PM MDT reply actions  

There's your flyover, holly

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 5:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Heh.

I was like, “Oh, the Giants game must be about to start.”

by holly96 on Oct 20, 2010 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Shane didn't like that pitch

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 6:00 PM MDT reply actions  

Bum.

Lol, I once,or maybe it was Andrew, changed his wikipedia page to reflect the fact that he was once caught fertilizing the infield with his bum, explaining his hilarious name.

by mkorpal on Oct 20, 2010 6:03 PM MDT reply actions  

If that idiot contract the Dodgers gave to Lilly

prevents us from re-signing Jorge, I am going to go find Colletti and kick him square in the gonads.

Is it 2011 yet?

by The Lodo Magic Man on Oct 20, 2010 6:37 PM MDT reply actions  

If you can get the rights...

I think I could sell this as a PPV on TBLA.

/calls Eric Stephens

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wonder what Bumgarner didn't like about that ball?

non-humidored?

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by RdRnnr on Oct 20, 2010 7:02 PM MDT reply actions  

Speaking of signing Jorge ...

While watching the Giants’ NO. 4 starter shut down the Phils,
it’s becoming painfully obvious that the Rockies can’t compete
with the Giants without Jorge. I’m not sure they even can with Jorge.

The Giants have the best pitching in the league. That’s why they’re
up on the Phils in the NLCS, despite facing Halladay-Oswalt-Hamels.

The Rockies are going to compete for a Div. title with Jimenez-Chacin-
Cook-Hammel-Francis against Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner & Zito?
I don’t think so. And Kershaw-Billingsely-Lilly aren’t a bad Top 3 either.

I agree JDLR isn’t worth $11 mil/yr for 4 years, in an abstract sense.
But I also don’t think the Rockies can win a division title or a playoff series without him.

Pitching, pitching, pitching. That’s what it ultimately comes down to. That’s why
the Giants & Phils are in the NLCS. Without it, the Rox won’t get there, no matter
who plays 2B, who spells Helton and who fills the 3rd outfield slot.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:06 PM MDT reply actions  

I don't know

the playoffs might not be the best time to judge the quality of a teams pitching staff. SF is going to have a better pitching staff than us and I’m not sure there is much we can do to change that. The question is are they that much better than us? I’m also not sure that pitching purely is what leads to winning a division. What I mean by this is that if we had the NL best or one of the best offenses and a pitching staff that didn’t include JDLR I still like our chances for winning the division. I believe this mainly because SF offense is so inconsistent and our offense can out produce everyone else consistently. However once you start talking about the postseason you are exactly right.

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Then we better load up on some sticks

I don’t think our current offense is going to be enough to overcome
SF’s pitching advantage. It would take Olivo having a full good year
and Stewart reaching hit potential, finally. I’d be surprised if either happens.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think where I diagree with you

is that we are so far behind the Giants. I think we are closer than you think and I believe we can compete with them for the division with the team we have. However if we want to do what the Giants are doing in the postseason we will need to do things differently. I’m just not sure that means signing JDLR; i do agree with you that it means we need some stronger pitching. I also think that for the next three years the the Rox FO is going to have to change their philosophy and start going after some bigger names. This also means that PR reg’s are going to have to deal with parting with some of their favorite prospects.

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 8:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

No argument there

It’s not just money, it’s also good prospects that are
required to bring in top players.

To wit: Justin Smoak for 1/2 season of Cliff Lee.

Or: J.A. Happ to get Oswalt.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Posey

is looking so good, it’s scary

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Let's see if he hits a rookie slump next year

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

um, make that sophomore slump

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, maybe he'll be the reverse of Olivo

and only play well in the 2nd half of the season.

But I kinda doubt it.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow, pulling MadBum already?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Well, that was a big ole backfire there Bochy...ha

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would say so....Bumgarner looked like he's in shock

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

not as shocked as Casilla

who looks like a deer in headlights

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is true. You better get him out of there Bruce

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

No need to

Rollins bailed him out by swinging at Ball 4

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

No, Joe Buck, Phillies offense didn't get going. They were gifted two runs...

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

You know, if the Phils win this one

It becomes a 3-game series

Halladay-Oswalt-Hamels
v.
Lincecum-Sanchez-Cain

I love good pitching, and those would be 3 games really worth watching.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Victorino

What’s up with him tonight?

Failed to take 2B on the throw home that got Ruiz.

Made a stupid throw home w/ Andres Torres running
from 2B, who he had no chance of getting.

Not using his brain tonight.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:47 PM MDT reply actions  

No idea...weird for sure. Hanging with Timmy too much? A little Maui Wowee?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Giants?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

hahah...Jose was pretty solid for us last season...

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

and he just K'd Posey

who’s about half his age

“turning 39”, they said. I don’t believe it.

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by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's because

he muttered “. . . for the third time” after that.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 20, 2010 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Seriously. The Giants haven't scored more than 4 runs since Sept 25? How the hell did they get this far..?

Stupid great pitching and stuff. grrrrrr

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 7:57 PM MDT reply actions  

Jeez...Cody Freakin' Ross AGAIN!!!!!

What the hell is in that guy’s wheaties??

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:07 PM MDT reply actions  

I tend to not wish players any harm

Even opposing players for teams I don’t like. (Like Texeira, for ex.)

But I’m starting to wish Cody Ross would die.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Like immediately

or a long, slow painful death?

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by Resolution on Oct 20, 2010 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

A quick one

like … by getting squashed by a fat panda

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cody Ross is immortal

and indestructible.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 20, 2010 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

The famous Hanging Chad Durbin

is now at 0 outs, 2 runs

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is it me or his he Mitch Williams 2.0....?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mitch was a lefty

but the hair (and the result) are similar

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was meaning his looks....

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

He could totally be his little brother or son

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes yes it does.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow, when did the Phillies suddenly start sucking?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:44 PM MDT reply actions  

If Cody Ross does it again

I think I’ll puke

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:44 PM MDT reply actions  

I think I'll have another beer

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gold Glove Rollins kicking a DP ball

by Cody Ross will also make me puke.

Or drink heavily.

Or both

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by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jimmy Rollins took care of it

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

If they pitch Ross inside, then the Phillies are idiots

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:45 PM MDT reply actions  

OH FFS!! Really J-Roll? ugh....

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:46 PM MDT reply actions  

I have a bad feeling about this

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:47 PM MDT reply actions  

This :( Gah, I'm so jealous

I hate the Giants

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

2 reasons I can think of

Better starting pitching against them
Better pen … especially lefties.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh and Cliff Lee.....

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Twice in four games

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

why....God...whyyyy???!!!!!

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I will though, that this coverage is much better than TBS

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:49 PM MDT reply actions  

yes...yes it is..

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Holy moly, that was one huge panda head....wow..

I bet that is from that fan’s own personal collection….

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:50 PM MDT reply actions  

That was nice to see

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes it was.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think he was a sad panda, in fact.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also an angry panda

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Leadoff double

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 8:58 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes, Howard with a double!

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 8:58 PM MDT reply actions  

and off a good lefty

pretty surprising, but a good swing, for sure

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Oct 20, 2010 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

I feel bad rooting against the Giants, only because my mom likes them 2nd after the Rockies.....

I’m not going to tell her..:P

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:00 PM MDT reply actions  

I think she probably doesn't really remember most of it :(

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry to hear that

How’s she doing?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I haven't been able to speak with her for a couple of weeks. I've called

several times and neither she nor her beau are returning my calls. She’s having to have some iron treatments for her kidneys, but I think it’s helping from what my brother in law told me.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

:-(

I hope you get to speak to her soon

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't feel guilty normally.:)

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I sat in Citizens Bank park and watched Phillies fans laugh Ubaldo off the mound

I’d really prefer they just end up in hell, but it’s not like I wish a better fate for the Giants

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

All of this is why Texas really needs to win the World Series

It’s the least objectionable option

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

For me, not only the least objectionable

but probably actually something I would feel pretty good about. I think I like that team.

by holly96 on Oct 20, 2010 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

The more I watch them the more I like them

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'd like to agree with this

but they don’t play real baseball in the A.L. perhaps the only real good situation for baseball is the Rockies winning the world series.

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

That doesn't mean you can't like players in the AL.

It’s not like the actual players (except I suppose DHs and pitchers not hitting) aren’t real baseball players.

by holly96 on Oct 20, 2010 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is what is killling me.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can if it's Rangers Giants

If it’s Phils/Rangers I’ll be torn

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

And I don't know if he was safe

I was just hoping he was called safe

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lost my internet there for a minute....and um OSWALT?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:31 PM MDT reply actions  

Eek.

I don’t like this. Come on, Roy!

(How weird that one team’s top two pitchers are both named Roy? What are the odds?)

by holly96 on Oct 20, 2010 9:32 PM MDT reply actions  

This is not good

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:34 PM MDT reply actions  

I need a bucket

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:38 PM MDT reply actions  

well that's crappy. Why on earth didn't Charlie go with Lidge?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Seems backward...go with Lidge first and then go to Oswalt for extras...but that's just me

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love going to Oswalt

he completely shut down the Giants in game 2.

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed. But he normally doesn't come in these situations....

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

hmm, I never noticed that....or is it just Jim Tracy that has me confused.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, this is true....

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can't really remember...

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Because if it goes extras, they'd need someone for the bottom of the 10th.

Here they were still tied. They were going to need another pitcher no matter what.

by holly96 on Oct 20, 2010 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gah...I really hate this team. I mean really, like a lot...

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Everything they do just works out right now

Take the 9th inning there. Uribe is hit with the 1-1 pitch, the ump gets the call wrong and he ends up driving in the winning run later in the at bat.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just want to punch Brian Wilson in the face.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Panda, Ross and Uribe with clutch hits

it’s like we live in wonderland all of the sudden

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is not wonderland. This is HELL

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be happy that the Phillies were winning as much I would be happy that the Giants

would be losing. Don’t confuse those two sentiments:) I’m rooting against the Giants, not really for the Phillies…except I will root FOR Halladay.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't want the Phillies to win

and while I can’t forgive the Giants for accusing us for cheating and i hope they burn for this, I hope the Rockies make them burn next year. I can’t stand another Phillies WS appearance I hope they get killed

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Think of the headlines

defending NL champs go down 18-0 to the Rocks, Coors field shows no mercy Rocks crush NL champs again. Ubaldo out pitches the Freak Again. Cain no match for Hammel and Rocks Offense.

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Giants/Rox is always evenly contested and will be for several years

A rivalry is developing and I don’t want them to get the upper hand

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah I think they kind of have the upper hand right now

this doesn’t mean we can’t beat them. I honestly believe they got lucky. For example Cody Ross? They are on the decline we can beat them.

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

* Sorry fix above

Cain not Abel to match Hammel or Rocks offense :)

by arpagamos on Oct 20, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

That would just kill me. Ugh......

I don’t care if the Phillies fly that flag again, because we won’t have to look at 10-15 times a year….

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wish I shared that confidence

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think Halladay has a HUGE game tomorrow

Once it gets back to Philly I have a hard time seeing the Giants win one of those games. I know the Giants have the big advantage because they only have to win one game but I think the Phils have the advantage in each game by itself. (Hamels vs. Cain will be totally different in Philly if it gets there)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hope you are right. :)

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the evil Giants have made a pact with the devil...

and they will win :(

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, they'll probably get 1 run on some fluky bloop hit or some other crappy way to win

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Pads made a pact with the devil too if you remember

We all saw how that worked out for them

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

That was just the Black Heart of Eckstein(tm Destro)

I don’t remember how that arose…:) We need Destro’s insight here.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

heh

2011 Colorado Zombies--Will rise from beneath homeplate with the shards of a broken season in Tulo's hand!

Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act.
QPU #4, YHEG #4, Proud Member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Oct 20, 2010 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also

Since the Giants moved to San Fran in 1957, no team has consistently failed in big spots more than them.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 20, 2010 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

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