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Friday Rockpile: Dye to Me

Ever in need for a new veteran presence in the clubhouse who would most likely contribute better to an AL team, the Rockies have put out feelers towards 2010 absentee Jermaine Dye, according to Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal, along with at least the Rays and Phillies.

I react to this suggestion with amusement, because I made a regular habit last offseason of joking around that we had signed Jermaine Dye. Of course, then we re-signed Jason Giambi, and there went the humor in that.

I don't make a point of piling obsessive ridicule on "positional impersonators" (read: first baseman in name only) like Giambi and Dye just for the sake of doing so. While I did find it hard to give Giambi a lot of credit for contributing anything more than a nice rest for Helton in 2010 (which he eventually ended up giving himself anyway), it could have been worse. These types of players inspire enraged fanbases when they do something sloppy, particularly in the realm of defense in an ever important defensive stronghold like Coors Field, but in general, I have nothing against them for wanting to play baseball outside of four ABs a game for an AL team.

That said, though I am not inherently a devotee to what could be called "standard" 25 man roster construction theory, I do acknowledge the plethora of versatility strangleholds that comes with having someone like Jason Giambi on your NL team. Was he a complete waste? No, but that roster spot could have been accommodating somebody else that gave more. I don't mean more clubhouse presence, or more offensive pop, or even more defensive versatility, but rather that pigeon-holing your roster into a position where one guy does one job well, and the others acceptable to flat terrible does not help your team win.

Off Topic

Star-divide

Now before anyone gets mad at me for "overreacting" about this "news" (goodness, I love my quotes today don't I?), we should ALL do well to remember that the only reason this even qualifies for this much analysis is because news of anything else in the baseball world is sparse. It's like a plain rock on a dusty, empty landscape. When the conditions are like this, any activity will stand out. The Ken Rosenthal types of the media sphere struggle as much as the rest of us to find tangible news for their readers to digest.

So, to put it another way: are we going to sign Jermaine Dye? Yeah, I'm going to go with no. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if we never hear his name linked to us again after this. Dye is a right handed 1B/OF, which is exactly what we need, and without making a direct accusation towards anyone, this could very easily be the only reason we're being linked to him right now. Nothing against Mr. Dye, who has shown himself to be a mighty fine baseball player for several years, I don't believe he is what the team needs when they say they need a right handed 1B/OF. And before Orlando Hudson gets on my case, I'll move on to other topics (wouldn't it be an oddity if we signed Hudson and Dye this offseason?)

In other news, Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez were awarded their second major national league awards this week in the form of Silver sluggers. Some local media details from Jim Armstrong of the Denver Post, Steve Foster of Inside the Rockies and Thomas Harding of MLB.com. It's funny how awards mean nothing until they go to your guys. While I offer all the congratulations in the world to them, I rather wish we'd do away with all of these meaningless awards in general. It does nothing more for me, the same way the Academy Awards do nothing for me when it comes to my real passion, the cinematic world. Titles like "Gold Glove Winner" or "Academy Award Winner" or some such seem like leftovers from the days when these people needed buzzwords for something like a job application, something Tulowitzki and Gonzalez will never have to do again outside of the baseball world. I don't mean for this Rockpile to be one streamline of Wolf cynicism (which, naturally, is exactly what it has become, great writing here), but we can love the offensive and defensive contributions of our phenom shortstop and outfielder without giving them a pretty trophy and a new professional title.

To end on a more happy note, at least for me, take a peek at this Eric Young Jr. tweet. He kindly asks any of us who miss the purple uniforms to tweet our desire to see them return to the RealRockies twitter. Now I have no idea what influence, if any, the guy they pay to man that post has on making that happen, but as most of you know, I REALLY miss those uniforms. I tend to enjoy diversity when it comes to the visual aesthetic of baseball uniforms. I loved the purple Rockies jerseys, I love the camo Padres uniforms, and I even enjoy the bright orange Giants uniforms, even if it does make them look like sunburned muppets. Even if it means nothing and we'll be going another year or eighty without the purple tops, it's nice to see a player interested in bringing them back too.

For additional reading, in case you missed it yesterday, here is some commentary from Andrew Martin upon the news that the White Sox may be seeking to offload Gordon Beckham. Would he have a future here?

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That picture is awesome.

More than happy to have some Rockie purple and black in the sea of red.

by Ferris_ on Nov 12, 2010 7:13 AM MST reply actions  

LOL at the commenter wondering whether something in the "3/28 - 3/33 range" gets it done

If 3/30 gets it done, I guarantee he’s a Rockie.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 7:42 AM MST up reply actions  

LOL more at the one saying

DLR is just a lefty Vasquez and they’d be better off signing Brandon Webb, who would have a better chance to succeed there.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2010 7:57 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

this means we have to root for the Yankees to sign Cliff Lee?

Fffff

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2010 7:43 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

butbut Georgio doesnt have back problems

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2010 7:49 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

What this means is:

this means we have to root for the Yankees to sign Cliff Lee?

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by Russ Oates on Nov 12, 2010 7:51 AM MST up reply actions  

I will not.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Nov 12, 2010 8:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Not only no, but HELLLZ NO

not ever(unless its against the……no no NOT EVER)

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Look how right you're not...

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

Bazinga!!

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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Yeah, my username says it all.

by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2010 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by hotdoglady on Nov 12, 2010 8:25 AM MST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Welp.

Nice knowing you, Jorge.

by Shoemaker on Nov 12, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

The next Vlady?

While the fact that he sat out 2010 can mean that he is either well-rested or well-rusted, you have to leave open the possibility that Dye could be the next Vlady Guerrero. I’m not completely convinced he will be, but if he signs with someone and puts up good numbers, don’t come crying to me.

by Curt in Florida on Nov 12, 2010 7:31 AM MST reply actions  

And notice how Vlady in the OF pretty much killed the Rangers in the World Series this year?

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 7:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Dye Another Day was too easy?

Had to pick a TV show?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2010 7:45 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Things to do in Denver when you are Dead....

 Boat Drinks everyone!

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by Oldfoagie on Nov 12, 2010 8:53 AM MST up reply actions  

As in I hope to be dead before I see this.

 If this is such a great idea; why didn’t we do it last year when we needed a 1b? Was the FO Todd denial that strong or did they not believe Dye wouldn’t fit?

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by Oldfoagie on Nov 12, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

I already did the Bond films once.

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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 12, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

8 million ways to Dye

To live and Dye in LA (lets hope he goes there? Manny the second?)

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by El Paso Jeff on Nov 12, 2010 8:21 AM MST reply actions  

Is that how much he wants to be paid?

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by Oldfoagie on Nov 12, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

I ain't saying he's a gold digger, but...

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by Muzia on Nov 12, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Ryan Ludwick

Non-tender candidate

Could be a fit for the Rockies?

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by dsmba on Nov 12, 2010 9:20 AM MST reply actions  

Good power but sucked with the Pads

For the right price he might be worth a shot. At least he played last year (unlike the punniest outfielder in the bigs).

by Curt in Florida on Nov 12, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Wasn't Ludwich the cornerstone of the rumored Holliday to St. Louis trade that never happened?

Glad we held out on that one. If he is non-tendered, I would be fine with the Rockies going after him. Give us a good RHB that plays above average defense.

We would probably have to move Spilly though

by purplesocks on Nov 12, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes he is.

Thank god it didn’t happen

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

But, but proven player!!!

Figures O’Dumb would pass on a proven MLB player and take some guy from Oakland who can’t hit above AAA instead…..

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

Bazinga!!

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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm so happy CarGo is a Rockie.

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by glaucophane on Nov 12, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

That's a pretty controversial statement there....

I hope you’re ready to defend it.

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

Bazinga!!

SD Cat 09 is still awesome

by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

I just went and looked at Ludwick's profile on fangraphs and BR

It seems he sucks at LHP. So that definitely knocks him down a peg or two on my want list

by purplesocks on Nov 12, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Patty Burrell

…also sucked against lefties when he was with the Rays. Believe me, I watched him flail against even the worst lefthanders but make it straight to the bank with his bi-weekly check during his $9MM contract. Burrell picked it up for the Jints but I think after striking out 11 times in 15 ABs he’s through in SF. Kind of like an older version of Ludwick.

by Curt in Florida on Nov 12, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Burrell's through with the Gians

But only bc Atlanta will prob pay a pretty penny more to beach himself in LF.

by deacs on Nov 12, 2010 10:04 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

The Real Rockies twitter guy claims that the Rockies do file an official purple jersey every season, but no players pick it.

I don’t believe that. Otherwise, Eric Young Jr. wouldn’t have tweeted the desie to “see them return”.

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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 12, 2010 9:51 AM MST reply actions  

if I remember correctly

someone asked the equipment manager(?) last year about the jerseys and he said they were officially dead.

by butterfly on Nov 12, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised if they just file it as a formality.

Doesn’t necessarily mean they actually have them ready to go just waiting for some player to pick them.

by holly96 on Nov 12, 2010 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think EY2 counts...

as only the starting pitchers get to “pick” the uniform of the day.

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by RdRnnr on Nov 12, 2010 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Beltre

Is A. Beltre even a remote possibility for the Rox?
Just wondering.

by Curt in Florida on Nov 12, 2010 10:43 AM MST reply actions  

Why do they need him?

When Stewart is more than capable, and costs about 1/5 of Beltre?

by deacs on Nov 12, 2010 10:46 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He would be awesome, but for the impossible price and length of contract

And that Stewart is going to bust loose this year.

It’ll be interesting to see what type of home park he ends up in.

by deacs on Nov 12, 2010 10:56 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

And he's really only top notch during his contract years

…and not in the years after signing the new contracts…

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

I know that's true on paper

But it’s hard to believe that he’ll go an entire well paid career with his two best years by far being his contract years.

by deacs on Nov 12, 2010 12:22 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Why is this so hard to believe?

Players have been known to cruise in the past. the fact their career is “well paid” doesn’t really enter into it. Sports history is littered with those guys who only stop it up when they’re playing for a paycheck, and then, once that guaranteed contract is signed, they just don’t work as hard.

I’m not saying Beltre is like that, but the numbers are the numbers.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Your last sentence and the subject line of my comment are the same

I can’t think of any other examples where a player’s value by WAR in his contract years (or, two of them) so far exceeded every other year.

Considering he played in Safeco, he had some good non-contract years as well, and depending on his next home park I would bet he’ll have one or two 6-7 WAR years during his next contract.

by deacs on Nov 12, 2010 1:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Okay, but is "one or two 6-7 WAR years"

during a 6 year $90m contract worth the 6 year $90m contract, especially when 3B is not one of our areas of need?

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

No. I don't think that contract will be worth it

no matter who signs him. Like I said above, I think stewart will take a step forward next year. Even if he’d produces the same as this year, it’s not feasible for the Rockies budget or necessary based on the current talent.

As a matter of principle, it’s hard to imagine a scenario where the Rockies spend that much money on a non-home grown player. And even then, they’ll have to be creative to re-sign both Ubaldo and Tulo. That means players like Beltre will always be a luxury. Doesn’t mean it’ll never happen, but not for a 31 year old with a checkered past who does not fill a position of need.

*I would’ve replied earlier but I was traveling away from the sudden winter in MN

by deacs on Nov 12, 2010 6:51 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty sure we agree entirely re Beltre (and really, on all counts wrt to non home-grown)

I’m certain we’d go a lot higher than that to resign Tulo when the time comes.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed on Stewart

high5

Yeah, my username says it all.

by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2010 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Friday?

Clint Barmes is not a good hitter.

Free Chris Nelson.... again.

by wolf213 on Nov 12, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, you are correct

but what happened 2 years ago today.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

It was Wednesday?

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

Bazinga!!

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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

We traded Matt Holliday?

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

And I didn't even google it.

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Crap, no

Last time I listen to the a** clowns at MLBTR. Next time, I’ll check whatever they post on their front page before I post it elsewhere.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

He was traded on Nov 11, 2008...I was off by one day.

So what day is it…do tell.

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Ok

MLBTR and wikipedia say the 12th, you say the 11th, and Baseball Reference says the 10th.

Who the hell is correct.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

SI has a story that dates the 10th

SI story

It says he was scheduled to take his physical on the 11th so maybe thats when the official trade happened.

by purplesocks on Nov 12, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Is that what you were referring to though?

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Okay...? What was it exactly then?

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

lol...no I mean is that what your original

“Holy crap, guess what today is’ comment…was referring to

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes,

I trusted that MLBTR wasn’t off on that.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Ah...I see...I'm following now...

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

So i guess today represents

the day when all the Denver Post posters (and some here) where all throwing a hissy fit because we traded Holliday and Cargo was going to be a crapy player and Huston Street sucked and LolMonFartsLol are cheap, and O’dud needs to be fired….

Clint Barmes is not a good hitter.

Free Chris Nelson.... again.

by wolf213 on Nov 12, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Truthfully, how many of us thought this trade we turn out so well for both parties?

I certainly didn’t

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

I had hope...

Clint Barmes is not a good hitter.

Free Chris Nelson.... again.

by wolf213 on Nov 12, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, hope is different that actually believing we got the better end of the deal at the time.

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

It was more of a

 Well we were gonna loose Holliday anyways, and Cargo has Potential.

Clint Barmes is not a good hitter.

Free Chris Nelson.... again.

by wolf213 on Nov 12, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

This is how I was at the time

I knew we had to trade Holliday because he had already rejected our extension offer. Had to get something for him. At the time we had also lost Fuentes so I was very happy with street and I knew of Cargo but I had no idea he would turn out the way he has

by purplesocks on Nov 12, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I had wanted more pitching

At the time (and what is still true) Street was an injury plagued closer and Smith was a junkballer. I had hoped to bring in a front of the rotation type pitcher. I also felt we had enough outfield depth with Fowler, Hawpe and Smith.

But you can’t argue with the results.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't know anything about CarGo.

And his numbers were terrible with OAK. I knew Street had blown a few saves the previous year with OAK. And Greg Smith, I was MEH on him. And in the early part of 2009 I hated the trade. Now, it’s probably the best trade O’Dowd ever made.

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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2010 5:59 PM MST up reply actions  

This was my feeling. I at least liked how highly regarded Cargo was, even if he hadn’t come close to demonstrating it yet.

I just remember being happy there was upside to the deal and that it wasnt the St Louis package, which we knew would’ve been bad.

by deacs on Nov 12, 2010 6:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

It didn't work out so well for Oakland, despite what their fans might tell you.

Half a season of Holliday Michael Taylor was their “haul”.

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by Jeff Aberle on Nov 12, 2010 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, and I was pretty sure that the Rockies were getting the better end of the deal.

3 younger cheaper players with upside (okay, not Smith) for one expensive player a year from free agency. I make that trade 99 times out of 100 and feel good about it.

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by Jeff Aberle on Nov 12, 2010 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't know what Purple Row was then.

Oh so long ago.

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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 12, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't either...but I'm saying in general I doubt most people

expected this to turn out as wonderfully for everyone as it has..(well, minus Greg Smith)

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Right..but I meant most people not on PR....

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Show you how danger lurks when trading top prospects

That’s not to say it always happens, but when it does, look out.

by Curt in Florida on Nov 12, 2010 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

On the flipside

There are plenty of teams that have regretted trading established talent for “can’t miss prospects”

It’s a crapshoot.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I would prefer to have CarGo and Tulo for the next 4 years..

over Pujols and Holliday. I prefer the upslope to the downhill slide.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 12, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

that trade actually introduced me to purple row

Digeratis linked to David Oh No’s breakdown of the trade, which I ate up because at that point, I had heard that CarGo was another Fowler.

I lurked for a week, registered Nov22 and joined the staff 2mo later.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2010 5:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He’s on the Twitter now.

@charliedrysdale

by Charlie77 on Nov 13, 2010 8:55 AM MST up reply actions  

He also shows up here every once in a while

usually around the draft and in pebble reports

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 14, 2010 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Found this cool site

If anyone likes to think about prospects.

A list of just about every ranking for next year. They will continue to be added.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 11:47 AM MST reply actions  

huh this site is blocked by our district internet filter

what, it has the top stripper prospects? it just makes me want to see it even worse. how we desire the forbidden fruit.

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by El Paso Jeff on Nov 12, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably because it has the word "Fantasy" all over it..

and it’s run by Go Daddy. My fantasy football website was blocked until our recent software upgrade lost all the restrictions.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 12, 2010 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

That one is ugly. The comments clearly point out the oversight. Otherwise, I do like having all the prospect ratings in one place.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I used this site for my keeper league's minor league drafts

http://www.scoutingbook.com/prospects/

And if you select Matrix then it lists them all along with the other sites rankings

by purplesocks on Nov 12, 2010 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Gosh...he should at least have some recognition like an emeritus status...

seems wrong to completely remove a founding member :(

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 2:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm sure he does

He still has power, just not an e-mail address to bug him.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I mean some acknowledgment on his own website

that we can see

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Not his website anymore.

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by hotdoglady on Nov 12, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Did he sell it outright to RMN?

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm not privy to the financials behind it

But basically yes. this is RMN’s site now.

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by hotdoglady on Nov 12, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, he should still be remembered in emeritus...IMO

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 3:11 PM MST up reply actions  

You could add it

to your sig.

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by hotdoglady on Nov 12, 2010 3:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I could......I'll think about it...

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

But I still think out of respect just IMHO...

it would be nice to do…

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe he isn't allowed to be listed

per agreements with SBNation who ultimately owns the content here.

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by hotdoglady on Nov 12, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

This makes sense...

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

besides

aren’t him and RG the same person?

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by hotdoglady on Nov 12, 2010 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL..that's funny....

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by SDcat09 on Nov 12, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Been gone for a couple days now :(

With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
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by jrockies on Nov 12, 2010 4:55 PM MST up reply actions  

But his name showed up in the post in the Q&A with DOD

even with a PR reference tagged on. That should count for something.

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by Kris Hansen on Nov 12, 2010 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Just to end all the speculation,

I could still be on the masthead, but by being listed at the top it would still look as though I’m the guy running the site. And RMN isn’t at the top because he joined the site later and got his permissions later than RG and I did.

Unfortunately, we can’t create a separate section for me.

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by Russ Oates on Nov 12, 2010 7:37 PM MST up reply actions  

So you're a lurker now?

Why don’t we put in the Staff section. Then you’ll be on top of Silverblood.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 13, 2010 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Can't keep

all my powers then.

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by Russ Oates on Nov 13, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Is he actually healthy?

If so, he’s one of those guys who could play 1B against LHers and occasionally give CDI a breather. I wouldn’t be totally against him, but I’d rather see someone who can legit play 1B/OF than 1B/3B.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes

(I think)

LOL, of course that’s what I meant.

Anyway, assuming we have either Nelson or Herrera on the roster, I’d rather have a RH OF/1B bat than a RH 1B/3B bat.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

What about the...

RH SS/2B/C/RP bat?

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by Kris Hansen on Nov 12, 2010 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

We'll just re-sign Brent Mayne for that one.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

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by Mondogarage on Nov 12, 2010 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Any opinions on the advancement of recent picks?

Anyone have any ideas as to which of the Rockies’ recent draft picks we are likely to see in Denver this next season. What’s the prognosis on all that hot talent due to arrive?

by Real Perspective on Nov 12, 2010 3:16 PM MST reply actions  

Nelson

That is really just about it. And he isn’t recent.

by mkorpal on Nov 12, 2010 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

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