Friday Rockpile: New Morales Joins Roster Hunt, Aardsma, Others Remain on Radar
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 17, 2010 7:00 AM MST
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With yesterday's acquisition of former Minnesota Twins backstop Jose Morales, the Rockies bring their list of competitors for the backup catcher spot to three main contenders. Though Morales, being the 'new guy', may initially seem like a fringe candidate for the spot, especially compared to prospect Michael McKenry, Morales actually has several complications leaning in his favor. For one, he's a now cliched "out of options" acquisition. Now taking up the 39th spot on our 40 man roster, Morales must make the team or be waived. The loss of Morales so early would hardly be a difficult maneuver, financially or otherwise, but it may intentionally or otherwise give him a slim Spring advantage over option-able McKenry or Matt Pagnozzi, who remains on a minor league contract only. Secondly, though far from a typical veteran, Morales's minimal MLB experience at the MLB level is still significantly more than McKenry and Pagnozzi combined. Small sample size and all, Morales will have a better idea of what to expect in an MLB game.
Morales, who has accumulated barely over one year of service time over three seasons of MLB play with the Twins, does not have a significant resume to study at this level, but he has experienced both high and lows. He is not the type of player who will be a game changer, and some of you may have an issue with that, though Paul Bargas, who is bound the other direction on the deal, was not considered one of the more notable arms in the system, aside perhaps from being a lefty. Fans of Chris Iannetta will also likely continue to be pleased that no candidates who could possibly threaten his starting position going into the season have emerged yet.
Coverage on Morales from the usual suspects around the web:
- Thomas Harding of MLB.com
- Troy Renck of The Denver Post
- Steve Foster of Inside the Rockies
- Andrew Martin from some blog somewhere
Let's take a look at David Aardsma and other potential late-offseason targets after the jump
Off-Topic for your debauchery.
Now that Jesse Crain has joined the caste of relievers with shiny new three year deals, the Rockies moved to a new Colorado-connected target. Aardsma bounced around MLB for the first several years of his career, having now found success as a closer for the Seattle Mariners, though as we learned from Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports recently, the Mariners seem to intend to move him.To boot, we've already made one move with Seattle this offseason (the Jose Lopez/Chaz Roe deal), meaning it's possible talks about this idea have developed farther than writer speculation.
Aardsma has a strong fastball and would likely provide support for Matt Belisle and Rafael Betancourt in the 7th/8th inning were he to be acquired. Aardsma is two seasons from free agency. With Pedro Feliciano also now off the market, the Rockies' options for what may be their final acquisition of the offseason is down to fewer confirmed connected names, including Jon Rauch, Chad Qualls and troublesome Type-A free agent Grant Balfour, whose free agency situation will likely prevent the Rockies from signing him unless it is via a trade after another team has sacrificed their draft pick.
Troy Renck has more details on these players here.
Other news:
- A's Acquire Josh Willingham: read Ben Nicholson-Smith's breakdown of the trade at MLBTradeRumors. Though the Ty Wigginton signing likely pushed us out of contention for Willingham, particularly considering the cost involved, this all but solidifies is 2011 home, leaving the Rockies outfield setup in its state of anonymity.
- Former Cubs' First-Rounder to Try Pitching: Jon Paul Morosi of Fox Sports reports that Ryan Harvey, who spent time in the Tulsa Drillers outfield this past season before dropping out to work on converting to a pitcher, will begin is professional pitching career in the Boston Red Sox system.
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Sorry you are feeling bad, Wolf..
Thanks for all your hard work on PurpleRow. Get better and have a Merry Christmas,! :)
Rauch was pretty solid last year in Minnesota as their closer before they acquired Matt Capps
He seems like the best of the (Free Agent) bunch to me… I wouldn’t mind Aardsma either, and he’s younger. I am curious why Seattle is so anxious to get rid of him.
This was said by a few other people, but the Willingham deal details frustrate me. It didn’t take much to pry him away… The Rox could have definitely made a competitive offer. I suppose the organization was too in love with Wiggington to look Willingham’s way… Oh well. Should be interesting to see how they juggle the outfield in 2011.
"My eyes! The goggles do nothing!" - Rainier Wolfcastle
Aardsma gives up way too many flyballs
He’s not a bad pitcher, but he’s absolutely not what we need in Coors. At this point, I’d be comfortable going forward with our current options, and not making a move just for the sake of making a move.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Who do ya'all think is the Rox equivalent to Rodriguez? and Brown?
Rogers and ….? IDK they (rodriguez and Brown) seem like 2 very decent prospects for a one year rental.
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
by El Paso Jeff on Dec 17, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking
I don’t have a real problem not having made the Willingham trade. It’s not at all like Oakland simply gave up two warm bodies. I’d compare it to something a bit less than Nelson and Rogers, but not that much less. I’d have probably made that trade, but no way do I beat up DOD for not giving up that for one year of Willingham.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Would someone explain the reasoning for the rush toward 3 year contracts for relievers?
I’m just not understanding it.
And re: the Willingham issue, I’m guessing there’s something we don’t know that entered into the decision. On the surface it looks like we missed an opportunity but I’m trusting DOD here.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Trusting DOD
Absofrickenlutely. He’s earned it, and then some.
If I have to hazard a guess, my thinking is the club actually believes the Spilly/Smith platoon will bounce back and perform admirably this year. We’ll see. But I trust DOD. 2 playoffs and a WS in 4 years, getting JDLR back at a reasonable rate, and locking down Tulo? There’s at least 20 or so fanbases in MLB who’d rather have DOD as their GM than who they presently have.
And no, you can’t have him. He’s ours.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
but but Matt Guerrier is only gonna make $1.5million next year!
Lulz
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 17, 2010 9:22 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Rauch
Holy crap Batman!!!!!!!!1 I didn’t realize he was 6’11 and weighs in at 290. The ball is already halfway to the plate before he even releases it. LOL. If he could get his command problems down then I wouldn’t mind seeing him. Heard alot about Aardsma but just wish I could see him pitch. Qualls? OH HELL NO. I would like to see Rauch with the Rockies. I hope letting the Hammer go to A’s be a good thing for the Rox but he was someone I was interested in before the end of last season.
Well, here's the thing...since he went to the A's...
He’ll still be eminently tradeable for, in June, if we still need him.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Billy Beane is a genius...
"My eyes! The goggles do nothing!" - Rainier Wolfcastle
by BittenAnkles on Dec 17, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Rauch would go along way to replacing Biemel
purely on the intimidation front. I wouldn’t want that guy lumbering in from the pen to land a haymaker in a bench clearer
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
by El Paso Jeff on Dec 17, 2010 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
Aardsma
I’d be interested to get him, if only because I grew up as neighbors with his grandparents. His grandfather does great wood carvings. Wonderful folks :-)
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
and his name would be the first listed alphabetically, always a plus
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Still hates Tulo, but is quickly losing momentum.
Loves (and misses) Galiardi.
SB Nation Denver
Always loved his quote about that, when somebody told him he’d replace Hank Aaron at the beginning of the Baseball Encyclopedia: “I’d like to thank my parents.”
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
okay thats funny
Optimism Warrior
2011 Colorado Zombies--Will rise from beneath homeplate with the shards of a broken season in Tulo's hand!
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act.
QPU #4, YHEG #4, Proud Member PR Gynocracy
And I can finally call him "aardvark"
Optimism Warrior
2011 Colorado Zombies--Will rise from beneath homeplate with the shards of a broken season in Tulo's hand!
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act.
QPU #4, YHEG #4, Proud Member PR Gynocracy
Aardsma can be very wild and, in my opinion, allows to many fly balls to be effective at Coors Field.
Put bluntly, the guy would very likely get rocked if he doesn’t improve his fly ball ratio, which won’t be so easy to ignore at this elevation.
But don't forget we have the Dac...
I think he can probably change
Optimism Warrior
2011 Colorado Zombies--Will rise from beneath homeplate with the shards of a broken season in Tulo's hand!
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act.
QPU #4, YHEG #4, Proud Member PR Gynocracy
Orlando Hudson finally gets a 2 year deal
FROM THE PADRES.
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Still hates Tulo, but is quickly losing momentum.
Loves (and misses) Galiardi.
SB Nation Denver
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Still hates Tulo, but is quickly losing momentum.
Loves (and misses) Galiardi.
SB Nation Denver
HOLY MOLY!!
Optimism Warrior
2011 Colorado Zombies--Will rise from beneath homeplate with the shards of a broken season in Tulo's hand!
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act.
QPU #4, YHEG #4, Proud Member PR Gynocracy
Bye Scrappy Doo...
Other might not, but I’ll miss havin you around.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Wow, so the Pads are paying him next year what they would have paid AGone
AGone >>>>>>>>>> ODog.
This is a great deal for the Colorado Rockies.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
Good for him
I like O-Dog, wish the Rockies would had signed him.
Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!
by Colsportsfan on Dec 17, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
He has
the Giants and Rockies left to complete the rotation now.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
Baseball fans love numbers. They love to swirl them around their mouths like Bordeaux wine. ~Pat Conroy
JFK
Can any of these guys on the plate serve up something incredible?
Someday it would be nice to see a lights out relief pitcher in a Rockies uniform. Someone who is called when the bases are loaded and no outs, and he shuts down the side. Any of these guys (with a little help from Dac) able to become someone like that?
by Real Perspective on Dec 17, 2010 11:28 AM MST reply actions
absolutely
Considering where Matt Belisle came from. I just don’t know who.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 17, 2010 11:34 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Aaron Cook
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Still hates Tulo, but is quickly losing momentum.
Loves (and misses) Galiardi.
SB Nation Denver
Paulino is the one who has the speed
He can hit 96-98 regularly. He looks like Bobby Jenks.
He’s just been consistenly inconsistent: lights out at times, gets shelled at other times.
If Dac can bottle the “good Paulino” for an inning at time, he could be useful in the
situations you suggest.
Mediocrity sucks
Betancourt has probably
worked out of more jams like that in his 1.5 seasons here than all the Rockies relievers before him. But he’s getting up in years and may not be here much longer, so I agree this is a critical need.
I too like Paulino’s arm, but he’s been so much better as a starter than out of the pen. Maybe that will change for him here.
by Rockpile Interloper on Dec 17, 2010 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
During the 1st game of the Red Sox. I saw Beimel(relieving Chacin) come in with the bases loaded and David Ortiz up to bat. Talk about an intense time. 3-2 count 2 outs bases juiced. Got him to ground out to Barmes for the 3rd out
by Roxman4ever on Dec 17, 2010 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
that place so loud. And I was in the upper deck, 1 row down from the purple row. Right field. That's a hell of a view up there.
by Roxman4ever on Dec 17, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
awesome game
I was there with Mondo and his two Boston friends
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Still hates Tulo, but is quickly losing momentum.
Loves (and misses) Galiardi.
SB Nation Denver
Ironically, that's the game
nobody talks about in that series, because the other two had so many fireworks. But it was certainly the best-played of the three, and by far the best-pitched. Chacin outdueling Lester – that was sweet.
by Rockpile Interloper on Dec 17, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
I totally agree with that statement about it being the best pitched game. I was wating to attend the 2nd game with Ubaldo and the Giambi walk off but kids had school so I had to get back home.
I was listening to it on 850 KOA and when I was west of Lamar, Boston was ahead and then I lost the station. But then when I got to Lamar, the game was over and the Rockies had won it. I’m like. WTF happened? Then I heard the highlights and listened to it all. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. That was the moment when I thought that the Red Sox can kiss our Rockies’ asses. We stuck it to them like fly’s on turds. Anyways, that game was so well played that it actually that Boston got some respect from me, but that is LONG gone. If it hadn’t for Pedrioa, then it wouldn’t have even been a game. I’m so pumped for the upcoming season and I will be sitting in Coors for Opening day.
Beimel, Belisle -- not quite there yet
Joe is a very interesting pitcher, and Belisle can certainly deliver on occasion, but either one of them also has bad days with some excruciatingly unpleasant results. But I suppose that’s baseball.
Would be interesting to see if Paulino can morph into such a great one. But Dac will have his work cut out for him.
I agree that Betancourt is the closest to the high profile late-innings savior. Hope he ages well.
Maybe one of the guys down at AA or AAA becomes the one we need.
by Real Perspective on Dec 17, 2010 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
even Mariano rivera has excruciatingly bad outings
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 17, 2010 5:01 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
What's the plural of Morales?
Moralases? Moralasses? Moralesii?
In any event, I don’t see why we need another one. What’s he bring that McKenry
doesn’t bring? Maybe he becomes the next Phillips … just catcher injury insurance
at AAA. I realize he’s out of options, but I don’t attribute much significance to that.
A 36-yr-old catcher with a .195 avg. would probably clear waivers easilty at the
end of ST. Phillips cleared them a couple of time, IIRC.
Mediocrity sucks
Morales will turn 28 during ST
he’s not a 36 year old catcher. His career stats also show a much better bat than McKenry, just not as good a glove.
Unless you’re a family member of Paul Blart (or whoever the single A pitcher we dealt was), I really don’t see much reason to dislike this deal. Very low cost and gives us another contender for the VERY wide open backup C spot…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
SD Cat 09 is still awesome
by Junction Rox on Dec 17, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
My error
Read the background too quickly.
Guess the thinking at C is that if we can’t land a Yorvit or a Martin or a Big Benjie,
just have a competition among journeymen for the backup slot & wait for
the prospects to get a little more high-minors experience.
Mediocrity sucks
I think that's exactly the thinking
and since I’m not sure they even made a run at any of the others except Yorvit, I think they might have been leaning toward the competition among journeymen anyway…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
SD Cat 09 is still awesome
by Junction Rox on Dec 17, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
Would like to see someone with better credentials, but ...
The new Morales certainly has potential. He has had success at the plate, and can get the job done behind at the plate.
by Real Perspective on Dec 17, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions
Moralii
Is it 2011 yet?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 17, 2010 12:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I personally would like Rauch....
but I would be fine with any of the options except for Qualls
Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!
I'm also happy about the Morales sign....
he gives more upside offensively than the other back up options and I also like the fact that CDI will finally have his chance to be the main starter.
Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!
Make or break time for him
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Dec 17, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
This morning on the Scott Van Pelt radio show, Scott was reading e-mails from listener to the Sports Santa. Thought everyone would like this one:
From Brendan in San Francisco: I’m a Denver sports fan and all I want from Santa is a baseball season so I can forget about the JV team that’s playing at Mile High, the media circus surrounding the Nuggets, and a hockey team that might as well purchase its own hospital. Bring me CarGo, Tulo, and Ubaldo. February 13th cannot get here soon enough.
And this guy is in my neck of the woods. I wonder if he posts here.
wow coudln't say that any better
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
by waterboy31321 on Dec 17, 2010 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
Bill Hall signing for 1/$3M with the Astros
doesn’t make me feel any better about the Rockies acquiring both Wigginton and Lopez. Hall basically plays everywhere but first and catcher.
Right there with ya man.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
but they offered him a starting position something we can't do
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Also something we shouldn't do
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
SD Cat 09 is still awesome
by Junction Rox on Dec 17, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Missed that part.
Starting position, or winning team? I’d think the latter is more valuable but who knows.
by deacs on Dec 17, 2010 2:49 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Has Balfour signed yet?
I could really go for Balfour if he hasn’t signed.
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
Remember, we lose our first round draft pick if we do that.
PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 17, 2010 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
Which is why Balfour won't be a Rockie in 2011.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
they were mentioning a sign and trade as a possibility on MLBTR
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Super rare.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah. I brought that possibility up in the Rockpile text as well.
It’s the only way it’d be possible, and unless there’s a team our there that wants someone in our organization badly enough to sacrifice a pick, it won’t happen.
PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 17, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
ohhh yes
forgot…dang
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
by waterboy31321 on Dec 17, 2010 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
So of the Rockies first seven road trips next season
five of them include a stop in a city located along I-95.
The first road trip of the year has a stop in New York (Mets), the second includes our last visit ever to Sun Life Stadium in Miami (Thank God), the forth in mid May sends us all the way to Philly for just two days to face half of the four headed monster, the sixth matches us up against the Yankees in New York (I hope it’s as fun as the last time we played them in 2007), and the seventh has us closing out the first half of the season in the Nation’s Capital.
There is good news however; the Rockies don’t visit the east coast at all after the All Star break unless we get matched up against one of those teams in the postseason.
105 more days until the Rockies Home Opener!!!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 17, 2010 2:16 PM MST reply actions
Or makeup games, etc.
I think I am going to do a 2011 schedule analysis for my next Rockpile.
PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 17, 2010 4:14 PM MST up reply actions
Boras' money is only money
If he likes Colorado badly enough there is still a chance. Boras can deliver the money, but as Cliff Lee just taught everyone, there’s more to the game than just the money. I suspect fan appreciation should have some weight. Hard to kniow for sure what the young man wants for the long haul.
Is CarGo married? Maybe someone from the Yanks or the Sawks will do someting rude to his wife (or girlfriend) and seal the deal for the Rox.
And there is no urgency in swinging the deal today. That gives the Rox some wiggle room.
by Real Perspective on Dec 17, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Fan appreciation has never mattered to a Boras client before
Hear me now, believe me later…if CarGo ever hits FA as a Rockie, and Boras is still his agent at that time, he’ll sign where the largest offer comes from. That’s what Boras clients do.
So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?
Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?
I didn't sound pessimistic
to me it sounded like Cargo is looking for a big deal now; which I kind of hope he doesn’t get. Yet I also kind of hope he does. I have been a Cargo doubter since we made the trade for him and I have been completely wrong. I know people will doubt and suggest a 7 year 100 and some million is a horrible mistake and it is, but if you were ever going to bet your future on two players well.
John Sickels
The Rockies ton twenty prospects is posted at www.minorleagueball.com…… I was really surprised at this list. Especially #1 and #10.
ARENADO
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Still hates Tulo, but is quickly losing momentum.
Loves (and misses) Galiardi.
SB Nation Denver
Best thing about the list is at the end
“I was totally unfair when I said this system looked thin”
If that opinion is shared widely
It explains why everyone is asking about Stewart in trades. Although next off season seems like the better time to ask …
by BostonTransplant on Dec 17, 2010 4:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I've asked him a second time about Paulsen...
May not be a top 20 but Sickles didn’t mention him at all.
Go Bruce!
FSN Rocky Mountain is no more.
Root Sports will be the new brand name.
PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
Root Sports?
So is that like potato racing? Peanut tossing? Onion peeling?
Sounds awesome….
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
SD Cat 09 is still awesome
by Junction Rox on Dec 17, 2010 5:22 PM MST up reply actions
So will it be Root Sports Rocky Mountain?
I didn’t realize it wasn’t owned by News Corp anymore. In that case, makes sense to finally rebrand them. That happened to the old FSN channels here in the Bay Area. They’re now Comcast Sports channels.
That's a terrible name
Optimism Warrior
2011 Colorado Zombies--Will rise from beneath homeplate with the shards of a broken season in Tulo's hand!
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act.
QPU #4, YHEG #4, Proud Member PR Gynocracy
I agree. But then sometimes (most of the time) I don't understand marketing.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
And it took them a year to come up with the name?
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
Baseball fans love numbers. They love to swirl them around their mouths like Bordeaux wine. ~Pat Conroy
JFK
Jim Armstrong tweets that Seattle is looking for an MLB ready hitter for Aardsma. Rockies don't have any available.
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"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
Sure we do
I’d give up EY, for example. Might even get excited about a bigger deal involving Spilly or Smith, if they sweeten the pot. But more to the point, they ain’t getting an impact MLB bat straight up for Aardsma, not with FA’s still oit there. Price will/has come down if they’re serious about moving him, which we don’t know.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 17, 2010 6:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Seems like we got some trade parts if we really want to get him.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
How about my grammar. Should be "we've got".
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
wouldn'
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
reply fail
wouldn’t “we’ve” and “us” be redundant?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Where I come from it would be:
“We got usuns some mighty fine trade parts. What all y’all got?”
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
EY2 is clearly not the type of player who would be described as "a bat:".
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"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 17, 2010 7:18 PM MST up reply actions
Do it.
Zack Greinke wants to be traded, and the Kansas City Royals intend to grant his wish.
Greinke fired his agent on Friday, the clearest indication yet of the ace right-hander’s desire to be sent to another club.
After Greinke switched representation from SFX Baseball to CAA, a high-ranking executive from another team told FOXSports.com, "He really wants out of K.C." Separate major-league sources confirmed that Greinke has unequivocally asked the Royals to be traded.
come on Dan, Dayton Moore is dumb.
Is it 2011 yet?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 17, 2010 6:41 PM MST reply actions
what would it take to get him?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
How far are you willing to go?
Stewart? Fowler? Matzek? Two of the three?
Just an academic exercise, since we have our starters and it isn’t our style. But it’s still interesting.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 17, 2010 7:06 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Stewart, Cook, Young.
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I hope this wasn't serious.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 7:11 PM MST up reply actions
why? they get a ML pitcher, power bat and speed. All they can say is no.
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They'd laugh and hang up.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
No. They would say something like "Ubaldo, Stewart and Fowler". Then we would comeback with
Hammel, Stewart and Smith. That’s the way these things work. Eventually you either reach an impasse or get to a trade that makes both happy.
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Fair enough.
I just don’t see the Rockies pulling the trigger on the prospect cost to get somebody like Greinke.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 7:18 PM MST up reply actions
counterpoint: Dayton Moore.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 17, 2010 7:29 PM MST up reply actions
Cook will never be a trade chip in a package.
If he gets traded, it will be a straight up salary swap type deal. An acquisition of Greinke would almost certainly cost Chacin + 2.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 17, 2010 7:20 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe so. But we've only got 3 untouchables IMO. Grienke is a guy we try to get if the cost isn't just crazy.
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Also, Greinke is really expensive.
I read somewhere a few days ago he’s owed $27 mil in the next two seasons. Not. Happening.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
In light of what's happening this off season, this may be considered reasonable for a pitcher of this caliber.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
But I would imagine the Yankees will pull out all the stops to try to get him.
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yanks only have one prospect
Who would interest the Royals. And he can veto it. Rangers are stocked and need him. They’ll get him.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 17, 2010 7:38 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
No thanks.
It’s going to take Chacin, Stewart, Matzek at least. Pass pass pass. And plus, with DOD and the way the Rockies run their franchise, trades like this should really never be thought about.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 7:11 PM MST up reply actions
Agree we'll never do it
But still a revealing exercise in how we value our own guys. Greinke’s a Cy Young pitcher who’s barely into his prime. If I’m DoD, I offer Hammel, one of the RF’ers, and a minor leaguer of thwir choice. Willing to go up to Fowler instead of the RF’er, but then Matzek’s off limits. Maybe no one offers a real live MLB starter, who knows.
They don’t want Stewart, as they have a stud 3B on the way.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 17, 2010 7:34 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I agree -
I think Hammel, Smith and Friedrich would get it done. I imagine he will wind up being traded for far less than the Chacin, Matzek, Rosario and Fowler etc that many seem to believe.
That's a very, very weak package.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
For example, the Royals are asking for Snider + Drabek + MORE from Toronto.
Hammel, Smith, Friedrich pales in comparison to that.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone watching MLBN right now? really?? people voted Strasburg's debut against the Pirates over the Rockies comeback against the Braves as the better game?
Despite the fact that was a reason Strasburg blew out his arm already?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 17, 2010 7:47 PM MST reply actions
Did any Rockies win anything?
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a committee must have worked on it
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Looks like he would be a good pick up.
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Not my favorite.
I’d rather Rauch.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 17, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
we have had interest in Heilman for a few years iirc
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 18, 2010 8:42 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
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