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Friday Rockpile: Lindstrom + Old Friends on Late Christmas Shopping List, 2011 Schedule Notes

The Rockies finally settled on Matt Lindstrom as their final bullpen piece, trading minor league pitchers Jonnathan Aristil (who had been re-signed after leaving as a free agent earlier in the year) and Wes Musick, who spent the year with Asheville.

Read web coverage here:
- Troy Renck of the Denver Post
- Thomas Harding of MLB.com
- Steve Foster of Inside the Rockies
- Rox Girl of one of those internet webzone log things

Lindstrom will be the pitcher that the Rockies brought in Octavio Dotel to be at the end of last year, ensuring that the Rockies have alternatives to Matt Belisle and Rafael Betancourt before handing the ball to Huston Street. He also provides insurance for Street himself should something go wrong there. The heavy lifting of the offseason is now done, unless some money for more catching or outfield depth grows on a tree somewhere by the front office.

But the Rockies were active on the minor league side as well, and this will likely continue into January. Before taking off for the holidays (or possibly after, who knows, one can be a GM from home too), the Rockies added three more players to their list of incoming minor league faces, two of which are familiar. In addition to infielder Tug Hulett, who can play anywhere in the infield, the Rockies re-signed former draftees Jeff Salazar (who left via waiver claim for the Arizona Diamondbacks after a September callup with us in 2006) and Matt Macri (who was traded to the Minnesota Twins in 2007 for Ramon Ortiz). So far, none of these three players have Spring Training invites, but may change when the list is being finalized. All three have some major league experience. Read about the signings from Thomas Harding here.

Back to Lindstrom, the bullpen has now reached what will almost certainly be its final form on opening day, barring injury or surprise meltdown. Street, Betancourt, Belisle and Lindstrom will control the late innings, with Matt Reynolds joining in for lefty situations. Franklin Morales backs Reynolds from the left side, with Felipe Paulino rounding out the team pitching middle and long relief. This all assumes that Esmil Rogers will have his fourth option year - if he does not, the options become limited to dumping one of the optionless players or optioning Reynolds to AAA and going with Morales alone from the left side. By my calculations, Lindstrom has an option year left because his 2008 option was not long enough to count, but they signed him to pitch here, obviously.

Like most people (or at least those clogging up my streets trying to get into the Cherry Creek Mall), the Rockies wait until the last minute to get their Christmas shopping done. Also, with two Matt signings today, the Rockies are well above their Matt quota for the year.

After the jump, I'll be taking a brief initial look at the 2011 schedule.

Off-Topic

Star-divide

Now is always around the time I start looking at the 2011 schedule and trying not to think so hard about it I start writing 2011 season fanfics in my head.

As I always emphasize when writing here, I hate trying to boil down the season before it happens with speculation that is at best nothing more than educated guesswork and at worst picked at random out of a hat along with a rabbit. This is especially true with something like a 162 game baseball schedule, which is more than unpredictable enough as is to encompass any number of surprises during the actual season.

But that said, let's take a look at what we can expect. As usual, the Rockies will be playing each divisional rival 18 times, 9 at each stadium. Also per the norm, every NL opponent this year will be played in two series of 2-4 games, one at home and one away, with one exception to make up for the extra inter-league series we do not participate in. Interestingly, this season we play the same team we did last year for the extra series, the Milwaukee Brewers, only this time instead of two series at home, we'll be getting two at Miller Park.

This means we have three home interleaque series this year, which will consist of the AL Central's Tigers, White Sox and Royals. We'll be visiting the Indians, and instead of the Twins who we played last season, we'll be getting our first look at the new Yankee Stadium.

A couple of scheduling oddities: the Rockies do not play any of their divisional rivals on the road until May 3rd, when we travel to Arizona and San Francisco. The Rockies do face the Diamondbacks, Dodgers and Giants in April, but all at home. 2010's schedule was very top heavy with the Padres, with four series before the All Star Break and only one at the very end, but this time we will not be seeing the Padres until May 13th. Our road time in April will be spent hopping about the East with the likes of Pittsburgh (our first away series of the year), New York and Florida. We will also have finished both series with the Cubs by the end of the month.

I am focusing on April not only because it is the closest part of the season to look at from here, but because these are the games that traditionally are going to be a little more difficult for the Rockies. Assuming the Rockies are going to have a better shot at winning tough games later in the season, which is never a guarantee, the lack of NL West games in April could work for us, though it obviously makes the game down the stretch interesting. The Rockies will be ending the season in San Francisco.

Opening day this year is on a Friday (April 1), after being on Mondays for quite some time, allowing the regular season to end before October starts.

You can, of course, view the official schedule here, and point out any other things of note. RhodeIslandRoxFan sent me some of his own schedule notes which he may like to share in the comments.

Random Links:
A new Rockies farm report is out from Inside the Rockies, for those who subscribe. This preview here hints of stories regarding Charles Blackmon, Rafael Ortega, Christian Friedrich and Darin Holcomb.

Troy Renck reminds everyone that the Rockies have NOT signed Carlos Gonzalez to a 7 year deal.

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Excellent trade

Lindstrom’s 2010 full-season numbers don’t tell the full story. He was VERY effective
in the first half of the year, before he hurt his back after some overuse. He kept trying to pitch through it later in the year, and his results were much worse. Healthy, he’s a quality closer or late-inning setup guy. Indeed, he’s similar to Street in that regard, though he throws much harder. If Lindstrom & Street repeat their history of partial-season injuries, we need them to arrange to stagger their DL time so that both are not out at once. More seriously, having both of them might help avoid over-using either one of them, if Tracy will be careful.

It’s nice to see another flamethrower in the bullpen, and once again, Lindstrom is a quality guy (character-wise) who will fit well in the clubhouse.

I’m deciding it was wasted effort to have switched my primary loyalty from the Astros to the Rockies (because we’re moving to Colorado). Ed Wade will eventually send most of his players to O’Dowd anyway. At least he’s sending every pitcher on the Astros’ staff who can throw 98 mph or above.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Dec 24, 2010 7:23 AM MST reply actions  

Post-script

Crawfish Boxes’ reaction to this trade was that it was a pure salary dump ($3 million) by the Astros, who are trying to clear the decks for new owners with the team up for sale. The only
good thing said about the deal was that it “doesn’t reek as much as the Paulino-Barmes trade.”

Joking comments about Carlos Lee aside, it’s a pretty safe bet that the Astros would dump him, too, and eat some of his whopping salary if they can find any takers. Prior to the Wigginton deal,
I thought Lee might make sense as the right-handed power bat needed to spell Helton & be an
extra outfielder. (He’s a bad outfielder, but no worse than Wiggy.) That deal probably doesn’t
make sense for the Rockies anymore (unless Wade has a thing for Alan Johnson), but probably does for some team.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Dec 24, 2010 7:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I think you have to pretty much come to that salary dump conclusion.

Musick’s intriguing, but in most trade scenarios, he’s a throw-in added to sweeten the pot a little at the end, not the centerpiece. Aristil is a step or three further that direction. Lindstrom, meanwhile, has near certain MLB value.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I really love this trade.

Lindstrom was a bigger bullpen piece than I thought the Rox would land (I’ve heard Renck say Coffey, which was very underwhelming)

And we didn’t give up much.

I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P

by CentralCaliRox on Dec 24, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone else think we're not done?

I think we make a minor trade to free up a spot on the 40 man (maybe EY?) and then sign a 5th outfielder type who can also pinch-hit. Jermaine Dye or the equivalent. Who then ends up as our regular RF’er by May.

Can I get some odds on this?

by BostonTransplant on Dec 24, 2010 8:52 AM MST reply actions  

less than our odds of winning the world series

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2010 9:07 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd say the odds are pretty low.

It seems that if any other player takes a spot on the 40-man between now and the end of Spring, it will be another SP.

Like I was mentioning a couple of Sundays ago, this means we have to take a more serious look at Garner (especially) and possibly Blackmon as legitimate threats to crack the Opening Day 25 man roster. Assuming the back-up SS job comes down to Herrera vs Nelson, the two OF’s would then be competing with EY for that last roster spot. I think the Wigginton signing spells a lot of trouble for Young, since he plays the same positions, just as badly. The one thing that EY does have in his camp is speed on the basepaths, but it seems that the team needs an extra right handed bat with pop and an extra outfielder more than it needs a pinch runner. This is where Garner fits almost too perfectly.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah that's where I'm coming from

Barring injury, EY just has very little chance of making this team, and he’s been around long enough now that his value is eroding pretty fast, if he still has any. And spending more time at SkySox stadium isn’t getting him anywhere.

Perhaps someone like the Royals might be interested? I dont’ know what Garner or Blackmon gets us, whereas someone like Dye could be very useful, with a (slight) chance to catch a flyer and get a huge season.

by BostonTransplant on Dec 24, 2010 9:14 AM MST up reply actions  

If Dye could be had at the MLB minimum, and if we didn't have a full 40 man roster

I’d be more inclined to your thinking, it’s just that the path of least resistance for what the team’s thinking points to EY vs. Garner in the Spring. Both are young, pre-arbitration and project as bench players, which makes them ideally suited to the last roster spot for a lower mid-market team. Neither requires a corresponding move to make a space on the roster, and both have the option of being sent down and kept in the Springs in case a mistake gets made at the initial choosing between the two. With Dye, you have to lose another player right off the bat (likely one of these two) and there isn’t that safety net of making the wrong decision with him, as if he gets cut or injured by the end of Spring, you’re out on that first player, and his salary, for nothing.

The mystery of what Garner brings is there, but it has to get answered at some point. If both he and EY fail, there’s still Blackmon, and frankly there will possibly still be a Dye type (I’m guessing a lesser version) looking for work.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

I would roll with Garner or Blackmon especially over Dye

Especially considering dye would be a horrid defensive outfielder.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2010 9:31 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Meh

It’s only RF, and he’s not that bad. Not like Smith or Spilly are Ichiro out there.

Having a guy with a genuine \reputation on the bench (as opposed to Cole Garner) just gives you a lot of options. Here’s the key consideration: Unless you’re intending on give Garner or Blackmon a genuine shot at a starting job, it’s crazy to stick them on the 25 man and just sit around to get the occasional PH gig (with Wigginton getting first dibs at RH pinch hit appearances, maybe Herrera too). It stunts their growth and makes them flat. The 25th man on a roster is just not going to get a lot of time, but ideally you want what they get to be high impact. It’s the Giambi role.

If we keep Garner or Blackmon on the 25, then I’d really hope we trade Smith or Spilly.

by BostonTransplant on Dec 24, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

not every prospect can have a starting spot paved for them

The reality is most earn it from a part time position. And yes, Dye really would be that bad in right field, especially after a year off. I would expect him to be worse than Hawpe was.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2010 10:14 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

For the record

I know we’re not going to sign Jermaine Dye (and he almost certainly doesn’t want to play here), but on average over his career he’s been worth about 3 runs below average as a fielder, per year (B-R). Which of course is completely insignificant. Spillborghs is almost exactly the same. Yes he hasn’t played in a year, but come on. If the Red Sox can win two world series with Manny Ramirez in left field, we can survive the occasional start with Jermaine Dye. Especially when the alternatives, frankly, are pretty bad.

by BostonTransplant on Dec 24, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

He was -15, -11, and -24 the last three years according to TZ. I think it would have been worth a try in the second half of last season, but probably not anymore.

by deacs on Dec 24, 2010 11:25 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

as deacs said, using stats that incorporate his athletic prime are practically useless for projection

Comparable to pointing out Jason Giambi’s mvp year when signing him. Dye just isn’t that guy anymore.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2010 12:13 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Spilly and/or Smith would be Ichiro

Compared to Dye. From what we last saw of him, I seriously question whether he has the athleticism to play first, let alone the OF. Also, his complete break down at the platein the second half of 2009 was troubling for someone his age. Whether his bat has value is a mystery.

by deacs on Dec 24, 2010 11:17 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Are we really set at the backup catcher position?

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 24, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Jose Morales and Matt Pagnozzi were both penciled in as their respective teams' backup C's

prior to the 2010 season. Morales’ wrist injury set him back, but the point is that it seems we have a pair of back-up options that other contending teams felt comfortable with. Granted both teams had All-Stars for the starting catcher, but I think getting Morales in particular is one of O’Dowd’s stronger moves this winter.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

good to hear. I really respect your opinion.

And I hope JT will give CDI plenty of time to prove his worth to this team.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 24, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Dear Santa,

All I want for Christmas is a Rockies world series win.

Is it 2011 yet?

by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 24, 2010 8:57 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

"and here is your world series champions..."

“The Giants!”

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Dec 24, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

man I still can't believe they actually won the entire freaking thing

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Dec 24, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Did anyone else see

that Hawpe is at least close to a deal with SD to play first base? I think it will be a great move for him and I hope he does well there.

by arpagamos on Dec 24, 2010 9:28 AM MST reply actions  

This guy's HOF ballot is very well explained...

and it’s pretty much exactly like the one I filled out.

Ken Davidoff

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by Jeff Aberle on Dec 24, 2010 10:29 AM MST reply actions  

God I love trading with Houston....

Trade a non tender candidate for solid arm and now a solid BP arm for a couple of minor leaguers that I never heard of.

Now the Rockies make Wade trade Hunter Pence for a bag of chips and throw in Alan Johnson to “sweeten” the deal

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Dec 24, 2010 11:09 AM MST reply actions  

we do seem to get good trades with the 'Stros.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 24, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't necessarily say that

Barmes for Paulino was a pretty good trade for us. Musick and Aristil do have some potential, though neither is a sure thing. I’d also point out, though, that neither Paulino nor Lindstrom is any sort of great pitcher, though both of them do throw a legit upper-90s fastball.

by Tom (RFTN) on Dec 24, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Paulino had a really awful run of bad luck/support in 2010, I'm liking that trade more and more as we go along.

Both he and Lindstrom were unlucky in the BABIP department, but Paulino was also unlucky in run support (3 runs per game) bullpen support (9 out of his 14 bequeathed runners to the pen scored, Bud Norris only had 3 of 18 score) and just about every other factor which we chalk up to luck/teammates rather than pitching skill came down on the wrong side for him. We’re going to wind up crediting another career turnaround to Apodaca, but a lot of it will just be a natural swing back to neutral exterior factors.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Anybody else

wanna contribute to the Get Tom To Opening Day fund? I mean, that’s basically what my clients will be doing for the next three months.

by Tom (RFTN) on Dec 24, 2010 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

El año de "Car-Go"

An interview with Gonzalez, this and other answers sound really encouraging:

- ¿Cómo ha sido la negociación con los Rockies?

- La situación con los Rockies ha avanzado mucho en los últimos días. Tanto el equipo como yo deseamos que ese contrato se de en felices términos y que todos salgamos beneficiados. Así que espero llegar a un acuerdo antes de comenzar la próxima zafra.

He says he hopes he can get a deal done in time to play for the VWL postseason. I really think we’re going to see an extension shortly after the New Year.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 12:31 PM MST reply actions  

Which reminds me

I need to start watching baseball en Español more. They had some show on the MLB network recapping like the 75 longest home runs in 2010, and Olivo made the list and when the showed his clip, it was in Spanish and the announcer went nuts. I don’t even think it was that big of a home run. So good.

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 24, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

The way it keeps popping up in the media....

I too feel like it may happen. As long as it no where near extensive as Tulo’s contract, I would be happy to be have Cargo locked up for awhile.

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Dec 24, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

have* not be

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Dec 24, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

If it was just reporters saying that they were hearing that there was progress in the talks

it would be one thing, but this is another interview from CarGo himself which indicates not only a desire to get something done, but where he says that there’s been a lot of progress in recent days. I would have never thought so at the beginning of the off-season with Boras, but it at least seems like a legitimately solid possibility that we lock him up for a couple of FA seasons now.

This interview right on the heels of that 7 year/$80 million report does give a lot more credence to it. I know the Rockies denied that anything was imminent to Renck, and he had the same incredulous take that I would have if Gonzalez isn’t saying this stuff himself, but given that he is, it seems there’s at least smoke in the hills that says something’s coming.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

well yea of course...

and the 7 yr for $80 mill would be a steal if Cargo would continue to keep hitting as he has.

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Dec 24, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

think it'll buy out any FA years?

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 24, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

never mind. I finally got to your post above. :)

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 24, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

the wording in the header to the interview reiterated the 7/$80 million thing
Carlos González ya tenía razones de sobra para celebrar el cierre de este 2010, su gran año, y ayer esperaba por una extensión de contrato con los Rockies de Colorado por 7 campañas y unos 80 millones de dólares.

Esperaba roughly translates that this deal is expected.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 2:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Odd would it be if we added Billy Butler and Billy Buckner in the same offseason.

I still maintain the “heavy lifting” of the Rockies is most likely done. But I’ll never rule out a surprise.

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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 24, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Fixed the Purple Row link.

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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 24, 2010 2:15 PM MST reply actions  

All I want for Christmas is a Carlos Gonzalez contract extension

oh….and a job….

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 2:25 PM MST reply actions  

The job part would be nice

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by jrockies on Dec 24, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

YES.

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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 24, 2010 6:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow...I just ...oh my....

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

We knew this day would be coming but it doesn't make it any easier to digest.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 24, 2010 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Especially with the Padres.

And JDLR considered going there too. Lots of Rox like SD or something.

I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P

by CentralCaliRox on Dec 24, 2010 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't say I blame them.

San Diego’s a beautiful place too. If I couldn’t live/work in Colorado, it would be pretty close to my second choice.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

^4

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly.

I was thinking this, and I know I’ve heard quotes from Rockies saying how they just love SD.

I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P

by CentralCaliRox on Dec 24, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

IAWTC

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 24, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup........

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Blasphemy!

I suppose next you’re going to tell me this plate of milk and cookies I’m putting out tonight is a waste of time? :)

by Rockpile Interloper on Dec 24, 2010 4:19 PM MST up reply actions  

lolz

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 24, 2010 5:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Well. How crazy...two of my favorite Rockies end up with the Padres....

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

You are their favorite fan.

They took less to see you more often!

Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.

I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.

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by RdRnnr on Dec 24, 2010 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

snort

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Who's the other one?

Torrealba isn’t there anymore, if that’s who you’re referring to?

I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P

by CentralCaliRox on Dec 24, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes Torrealba...and yes I know he's not there anymore...

but he was …

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotcha :P

It’s okay, gotta move on. Well you don’t have to, but I can speak for everybody when I say I’ll be cheering for Hawpe.

I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P

by CentralCaliRox on Dec 24, 2010 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll be cheering for him to beat the crap out of the Dodgers, Dbacks, and Giants

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Well the "Dodger Killer" is still in the division.

Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!

by Colsportsfan on Dec 24, 2010 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

warning about Hullet

I saw him in spring traing last year, signs more autographs than I’ve ever seen.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 24, 2010 2:39 PM MST reply actions  

That's a bad thing for fans?

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
Baseball fans love numbers. They love to swirl them around their mouths like Bordeaux wine. ~Pat Conroy
JFK

by jrockies on Dec 24, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Looks like Dex has always had that uplifting smile.

Pretty easy to spot eh?

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I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P

by CentralCaliRox on Dec 24, 2010 3:08 PM MST reply actions  

Okay that was fail.

Sorry if that picture is too big guys.

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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 24, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Okay, that's adorable.

I’m assuming that’s his brother with him?

by holly96 on Dec 24, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

It's either his brother

Or Will Venable of the Padres. Looks just like him…

by Rockpile Interloper on Dec 24, 2010 4:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Giant Stats

Interesting read via Baseball Musings regarding Yeshayah Goldfarb, the Giants’ stats guru/director of minor league operations.

However, I wish they’d provided a little more about what they saw in Aubrey Huff prior to 2010:

Take Huff as an example. From 2006 to 2009, he played for four different teams, then found himself without a contract only two months before 2010 spring training. If no teams wanted to sign him, why would the Giants?

"There were a few things in his statistical background, the scouting reports and intangibles we knew about him that made us think he could bounce back from a relatively, for him, poor 2009 season," Goldfarb said.

It would be interesting to know what they mean. A cursory glance shows that Huff’s BABIP was pretty low during his poor 2009 (.260), but it was above his career average in 2007 (.308) when he had another down year.

by deacs on Dec 24, 2010 6:34 PM MST reply actions  

first of all,

there’s no way that they suspected he’d rebound as much as he did, since you never expect a guy that old to put up a career season. I’m guessing besides a BABIP spike, that they probably thought the power would rebound as his ISO dipped without a tangible decline in bat speed. There’s zero reason to have foreseen the massive increase in his walk rate, and little reason to suspect he’ll sustain it, for that matter. There is just so much about that Giants team that will be coming back down to earth next season, it’s really too bad that they rested on their laurels this winter. Well, not too bad, because it helps us a lot. They’re still a good team, and still capable of winning the West again, but I doubt it happens without another year of lots of things going right for them.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 7:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, right. I'm sure they'd admit they didn't expect him to be a 5.7 fWAR, or even a 4 fWAR.

It’s not a stretch for me to imagine that Goldfarb is probably a lot smarter than I am, so I’m thinking he looked at something more than BABIP and power/bat speed. He was cheap, though, so maybe that is the bulk of the logic.

Nevertheless, his wild swings over the years are enough for me to guess he’ll fall back down to a 2-3 WAR player. In addition to the BB% spike, he also enjoyed an uncharacteristically strong season at first according to both UZR and TZ. Both could certainly fall and drag down his value further.

Any way you cut it, I’m glad they re-signed him for an expensive two years.

by deacs on Dec 24, 2010 8:57 PM MST up reply actions  

no offense taken

I worry a lot about how my tone gets taken too. I know I can come across poorly at times. In this case, whether he’s smarter or not, Goldfarb likely has access to better/more information than we do at the very least. Having said that, in this case there’s only so much that information could possibly say, and it definitely wasn’t that Huff would have his 2010 season.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Jeez, fans are trashing Garrett Atkins at MLBtraderumors (the Pirates just acquired him for 800K)

“Atkins is the worst major league baseball player I have EVER seen.”
“I see him as part of a package to get Prince Fielder. /sarcasm "
“Atkins is terrible, Atkins is really terrible. Atkins would not make a Japanese team as a reserve. Atkins would not make my softball team. Atkins is terrible.”
“I guess Pirate fans are supposed to be impressed with the team signing some nobody’s this off-season. Atkins was terrible last season. Chalk this up under whatever.”

How far the once mighty have fallen…there was once a time when you could argue he was best third basemen per $ in the bigs. Poor fella, hope the Pirates can get their stuff together this year.

Also, does it freak anyone else out that virtually the entire Gen R team is gone? :O

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by Hollidayrain on Dec 24, 2010 7:45 PM MST reply actions  

It does me for sure!

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2010 8:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Except that Cook is still around, doesn't he sorta count, even if he predates it slightly?

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Dec 25, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

NVM, read below

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Gints complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

by Mondogarage on Dec 25, 2010 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

does it freak anyone else out that virtually the entire Gen R team is gone?

Cook is still here, is he the only guy left from that group?

Is it 2011 yet?

by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 24, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd say cook was probably pre GenR

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2010 9:51 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I always included him...

He was the same age as Barmes, came in just a year ahead of Clint and Atkins and Holliday came in the following Spring. Him, Francis and Jason Young Joe Kennedy Denny Stark Byung Hyun Kim were going to be the anchors of the rotation that led us to glory.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2010 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I certainly am not opposed to that view

I wasn’t really scrutinizing the team much then, but I had personally considered cook a hold over from the pre GenR days, as he was drafted before Helton’s MLB debut and debuted himself when Hampton was still in the picture.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 25, 2010 5:06 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I think I probably include Cook also because he had a lot of similar traits to the rest of Gen R

He was methodically homegrown within the system and while considered a solid prospect still lagged behind how other NL West systems’ stars on the farm were being evaluated.

And while he debuted when Hampton was still pitching with the Rockies, it was just a month of overlap. Cook’s debut was on Aug. 10., Hampton’s last start as a Rockies pitcher was Sep. 9, 2002. It’s probably overstating his role for a good story, but I see Cook as the harbinger for Gen R, and now he’s last of the kind.

by Rox Girl on Dec 25, 2010 8:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Another interesting thing bout the schedule:

We don’t get 4th of July at home : (

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by prettyinpurple on Dec 25, 2010 1:48 AM MST reply actions  

LAME

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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 25, 2010 1:51 AM MST up reply actions  

it had to happen eventually

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