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Friday Rockpile: Unprecedented spring leaves few questions

The decade truly is opening a new era for the Rockies.  For the first time in franchise history, not only does the team expect to compete for its first division title, but so do analysts outside of Colorado.  How they handle expectations remains to be seen, but the disappointment that was 2008 can only aid in the roster's experience.

Additionally, the projected 25-man roster has never been so close to being set.  The rotation members are set, with the starting lineup and bench written in hard pencil.  There are just no position battles for us to debate.  Thus, all of the articles we get at the spring onset are features about certain players.  I'll get to those after the jump, but first, I'll note a few things about the Dodgers.

Rox Girl has consistently ascertained that Andre Ethier is prime for a regression in 2010.  Words don't always convert to the field, but Ethier says he isn't satisfied with his strong 2009:

I'll come in mentally thinking I have a lot to prove and to achieve. It's not a situation where you can get complacent just because you had a good year or because you signed a two-year deal. That isn't the right way -- to come in knowing you have a job and all that. You have to keep proving yourself.

Colorado is fortunate to avoid having roster decisions pressured by the number of options of several players.  Conversely, Los Angeles will be dealing with a Niemann/Hammel situation in Spring Training.  Both lefty Eric Stults and knuckler Charlie Haeger are competing for the fifth starter role, both out of options.  James McDonald and Josh Lindblom are also competing for the spot.  TrueBlueLA is assuredly undecided.  This is a position battle I'll be paying attention to this spring.  While Jason Hammel had to make the Tampa Bay rotation or be traded, the loser of the fifth starter battle could find himself in the Dodger bullpen, but we may see Los Angeles forced into a trade as well.

Gagne picks Dodgers over Rockies | ColoradoRockies.com: News
If Eric Gagne makes the roster in Dodgertown somehow, he will be the seventh pitcher to win a Cy Young Award, move onto another team, then return to the team he won his award.

More Rockies links after the jump.

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Joe Posnaski at SI has thrown his spaghetti on the wall, attempting to project the 2010 season.  His method - turn the league into a video game, rating every player on an arbitrary numerical scale and adding up value.  Feel free to ignore him picking Colorado 2nd in the NL West, but feel free to pay attention to him rating Troy Tulowitzki as the best overall player in the division and Ubaldo Jimenez as his Cy Young favorite.

Rockies' Olivo quick study on defense - The Denver Post - Two interesting point to take from this:  one - Olivo has only recently started to focus on his defense, suggesting he could potentially improve over a career of substandard defensive play.  Two - former Sky Sox pitching coach and current Royals pitching coach Bob McClure may be responsible for Olivo signing with the Rox.

Olivo gets early start on day catchers and pitchers report | All Things Rockies
Troy Renck came away impressed with Olivo's physique and work ethic.

Barmes unfazed by contract-year pressure | ColoradoRockies.com: News
The Rockies' second baseman has no real security financially or in his role going forward, but the man continues to handle the situation well..

Rockies LHP Francis returns after missing 2009 - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
Inside the Rockies' Jack Etkin wrote a feature on X-factor Jeff Francis for Yahoo.  There's not much new to see here.

Corpas returns as Rockies' pitchers, catchers start spring training - The Denver Post
The bullpen is already fairly strong, but Troy Renck points out two huge potential areas of organic growth.  Manny Corpas thinks it will be a "bueno year" and Taylor Buchholz is slightly ahead of schedule in his attempt to return around the All-Star Break.

Colorado Springs Sky Sox: News: All Decade Team -  SkySox.com has been compiling an all-decade roster this offseason, which I just noticed last night.  The newest announcement was for the fourth starter, who was 11-11 with a 4.67 ERA over four seasons at AAA Colorado Springs.  Hopefully, the 201X decade will yield a better 4th AAA starter than Denny Stark.

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A dodger friend of mine texted me 45 minutes before my alarm

just to tell me they picked up gagne.

RAGE

I, for one, am optimistic about the future. And I'm not one to be optimistic about anything.

by fantasyfencing on Feb 19, 2010 8:21 AM MST reply actions  

I hope so Manny.
“It’s going to be a bueno year,” Corpas said.

I hope it’s very bueno.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 8:34 AM MST reply actions  

We can afford to take it slow with him

but he needs to work into some high pressure situations. I want him to be a lock-down setup option by the end of the season.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 8:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Best place?

Another team.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Seriously though, are you really that down on him?

He wasn’t great in 2008 but he wasn’t that bad overall. His xFIP in 2008 is pretty close to Raffy’s 2009 or Bucky’s 2008.

Now that his contract is hitting the bigger payouts it’s up to him to really want to improve. I’m not sure if he’s quite there yet but I certainly want him to step up, I think he has too much talent to just throw away.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions  

we have other options who are going to work their asses off to be in the majors

Deduno, Rogers, Weathers, etc etc etc. Nurturing Corpas’ expensive self is going to be frustrating.

There’s also the case that he may have been doctoring the ball, which I’m not ready to completely throw away.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Odd hate

for arguably our most talented bullpen arm. His 2007 was more impressive to me than any other Rockies reliever ever, and the scouting reports on him were positively reverant, particularly from guys like Keith Law who are hardly in love with many of our guys.

And why exacly do you think he was doctoring the ball? Just because Philly fan thought so because the humiliated all of their bishot hitters? Whatever, if so, I guess he’ll never come back but I don’t recall any legitimate reason to buy into all of that. His work ethic is obviously a concern but I find it odd that you, in particular, would be so down on an electric talent, considering you usually favor talent over qualities like “hard work” or whatever random attributes you are assigning here to a bunch of minor leaguers.

Corpas coming back full force would be great for us.

by Teekalong on Feb 19, 2010 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what any of that has to do

with my basic points, or the idea that a healthy Corpas could/should be a key part of our pen in 2010. I don’t think anyone would argue that he was particularly good over the last 2 years, but I attribute much of that to injury (or, arguably, conditioning), not a sudden loss in talent.

The point to me is simply: is he healthy and ready to go? If so, he can be a devastating weapon. If it becomes evident that 2007 is just a distant memory and he’s not that guy anymore, its a shame for us and we move on…but not before.

by Teekalong on Feb 19, 2010 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

can be a devastating weapon for either team on the field, depending on the day

the article basically says that Corpas is VOLATILE. Incredibly volatile. Super volatile. Always has been.

And I agree with RMN, I think Corpas’ role will be with another team, if he does find it. His time has long passed on this club.

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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Your latter point is the one I'm trying to make:

IS HE HEALTHY?

And even if he IS healthy, is he still GOOD?

Plus, we’re also putting a lot of stock into one season 2 years ago which could just have easily been a fluke, and 2008 was the Real Corpas standing up.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

He hasn't had a 2009 Lidge type year

His 2008 wasn’t as good as 2007 but there wasn’t any dramatic drop off. He’s been relatively consistent each season (minus the injuries).

If he wants to show up out of shape and not worry about improving then it’s going to be tough to trade him out until he contract is up. There might be a few teams willing to give him a shot at coming back, but probably not many at what he’ll be making.

He may be more expensive than the young guys waiting in the wings, but they haven’t proven (to me at least) that they’re ready to perform in high pressure situations in the majors. This year is important to show he can still be effective, I just have hope that he still can be.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

he hasn't proven it to me, either

1 year does not proof make.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

"1 year does not proof make"

unless it is Chris Iannetta, right?

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 19, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Just pointing out a double standard.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 19, 2010 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't be a douche

I know it’s hard…but please don’t do it.

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by Hizilla on Feb 19, 2010 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Im not trying to be...

I am in the Jim Tracy boat that suggests if he has shown it before, it must be in there. RMN is a big fan of Iannetta, which is great, but his when he argues for Iannetta he points to his one good season, when he argues against Corpas he calls his one good season an aberration. Im not trying to stir the pot, Im trying to make a point.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 19, 2010 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh goodie.

1. Bull you’re not trying to stir the pot. I clearly point to more than one good season when defending CDI.

2. You do have a point though. I seem to have something in my head that recalls someone saying/reporting that Corpas showed up out of shape (and I’m addressing your comment down the page a bit as well) and it’s shaped my image of Corpas as being someone who got a contract and coasted. Whereas I have an obviously biased view of Iannetta, but I recall more about how Iannetta put in the extra time during the offseasons blah blah blah. Selective, I know.

But much as it is a double standard, we’re not really comparing apples to apples here. One relief pitcher with a hot as hell season is hardly rare for major league baseball. We have like 6 or 7 or 8 relievers in the pen at any given moment, so if one falls apart, bring another one out. We only have 1 backup catcher.

Relievers grow on trees. Granted, not relievers with 2007s like Corpas’, but the point is that you can find effective relievers nearly anywhere, whether that be by crafty trade, solid scrapheap scouting, or your own farm. If Corpas is good to go, again, I’ll eat those words (I wonder if someone has tracked how many words and hats I might need to eat), but the concern is that he’ll NOT show up and suck for awhile and cost us precious wins in April and May, two months where we need to flourish for once.

There’s something to be said regarding the disparity between a batter having a bad game and a pitcher having a bad game (ie a strikeout by a batter might be forgotten by a rally from the next couple of batters, but a dinger from a pitcher could more easily mean the game), but that’s not really a Bad Corpas vs Bad Iannetta debate so much as it is just a conversation about the nature of baseball.

My defense of Iannetta is typically based around his strengths: Walking a metric ton and hitting for good power. 2009, he had an OBP .116 higher than his AVG, right in line with his career numbers, and had an ISO of .232, which followed his 2008 pretty closely. However, he went flyball crazy, struck out way too much, and as a result, hit for a pathetic average. He still did post an .804 OPS, which is fantastic from a catcher as a rule.

Corpas’ biggest strength is pretty much not walking anyone, and then striking out enough people to post a solid K/BB (his K numbers are not and never will be elite, but stacked up next to BB, they look great), along with keeping the ball in the park. In 2009, he walked even fewer than he did in 2007 (1.87 as compared to 2.31). He struck out a similar number to 2007, and as a result, his K/BB actually climbed in 2009. His HR9 climbed a bit, but not to the point where you wonder if the humidor broke or anything. However, much like Iannetta struggled in easily-recognizable ways, Corpas was very hittable, allowing a .317 AVG (.813 OPS) and a .366 BABIP. His fastball became more hittable and his slider/change dropped from being elite pitches to pedestrian at best. Pitch F/X shows a serious drop in his slider’s movement since 2007.

Basically, Iannetta and Corpas have similar things happening: Their easy-to-recognize/remember performances suck (Iannetta Strikeouts, bad AVG; Corpas ERA, OPSa), but the advanced numbers say they were both still productive.

Really though, it comes down to an issue of replaceability. When Iannetta has a down season, I’ll defend him not just because because his skillsets seem to still be in play, but because who exactly are we going to replace him with? The AA Defense-First option, a washed-up veteran, or the nowhere-near-ready prospect? However with Corpas, if he’s having a down season, yeah, I SHOULD be defending him (and I kind of tried to midseason), but it’s hard to when relief pitchers are such a fungible commodity, and we have Sam Deduno, Esmil Rogers, etc who could all come up and really get their feet wet in the bullpen and maybe get the benefit of “OH HAI MAJOR LEEG BATTERS U HAVNT SEEN ME YET LOL”, not to mention O’Dowd/Dac’s abilities to make serviceable pitchers from the scrapheap.

To sum all that up, the reason I defend Iannetta is that he hasn’t been as bad as his AVG would suggest, and we NEED to have something productive from catcher, while we would LIKE to have Corpas be productive. Better-hitting Iannetta is pretty much a necessity, while better-pitching Corpas would be a luxury.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 20, 2010 1:59 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

super

bleck.
so happy i stopped by to read again.
bleh….

by holidayelsie on Feb 21, 2010 12:28 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't get it

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 21, 2010 12:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Nice counterpoint RMN..

I was wondering how you would respond to Sandlot because I’m leaning the same way with CDI only posting one good season, but you’re right about his OBP being so much higher than his AVG. Hopefully he can raise his AVG enough to post a 900+ OPS. Because he certainly did so in the minor leagues.

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by Charlie77 on Feb 21, 2010 5:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for calling me a douche though...

I am glad that we are allowed to have an opinion that differs from the masses in here.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 20, 2010 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Are you Redhawk?

It wasn’t for having a differing opinion. It was for semi-trolling and calling out a double standard that didn’t really apply. Iannetta has had one fantastic season, one very solid season, and a solid looking last two months in 2007.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2010 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Right...

No, Im not Redhawk, but I think he brings valuable insight to PR when he posts here…yet you guys run people like him off because sometimes he disagrees with you…I got banned for a day for calling someone a d***, why is calling someone a douche suddenly ok?

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 20, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

we didn't "run him off"

he cussed people out on numerous occasions and finally enough was enough.

you haven’t responded to my well-thought-out and generally levelheaded response, but rather you’re responding to some stupid slight. How do you know he wasn’t banned for a day either? Quit bitching about site discipline and stay on topic.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 20, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

To give you your reply...

I actually think everything you said was well thought out and makes a lot of sense. I am just in the boat that the 2007 Corpas would be a huge asset to this team. I love Matt Daley, but a good Corpas in the 7th, Betancourt and then Street. Does it get better than that? I am not ready to write him off because he showed up to camp out of shape once. If I recall correctly, Seth Smith also showed up to camp a little over weight in ’08.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 20, 2010 10:54 PM MST up reply actions  

And I'll freely admit that I threw out a flagrant opinion to get conversation going

I’d LOVE to have stud Corpas back, and if he can, I’d be ever so happy. Basically, researching Corpas a little bit kind of reminded me that below the poor ERA shone the skillsets that made him such an effective guy to begin with.

Essentially, I think the reality of Corpas will be seen when he’s A. In shape (which it seems he might be) and B. When he’s healthy (and God knows what today’s setback will yield). 2007 was so awesome, but his LOB% and BABIP basically said that he was gonna fall off a clip while still sporting similar component stats.

We’ve seen Unsustainably Amazing Corpas, we’ve seen Unsustainably Bad Corpas, and we’ve seen Injured Corpas, but we haven’t really seen REAL Corpas, and I’m curious what that Corpas looks like.

I’ll concede my “OMG TRADE” point, because I agree with you here, he does offer a lot of Stud Potential™ that would be a shame to give up on. From what I’ve read recently, he seems to have kind of turned a corner with the birth of his child, and realized that he can’t just coast anymore.

Work Ethic Corpas should be very interesting, whether for better or for worse.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 20, 2010 11:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Honestly...

My guess on today’s setback is that it is your typical early spring training tweak. There is no need to push something like that on Feb.20th. If it were midseason my guess is that he pitches through it. Obviously just my opinion and for all I know he could have torn his hamstring, but it seems like it happens often in ST that a guy gets a tweak and sits for a few days.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 21, 2010 12:07 AM MST up reply actions  

yeah, and I'm not really reading much into it

but then again, ST news is all about reading too much, am I right?

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 21, 2010 12:09 AM MST up reply actions  

You are right...

Every year spring training fools me into thinking that we will have real baseball news, only to remind me that we are still a solid four weeks away from anything meaningful happening.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 21, 2010 12:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Like, take these two stories for example

Corpas tweaks hamstring: Probably just “ooh, this is a little sore. Stupid rusty offseason”

Jair Jurrjens has sore shoulder: “Welp, that’s it for today, Jair, take a lap and call it a career.”

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 21, 2010 12:28 AM MST up reply actions  

exactly

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 21, 2010 12:42 AM MST up reply actions  

oh i completely agree

just bringing up talking points

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 21, 2010 7:22 AM MST up reply actions  

He was banned for profanity and ad hominem attacks on multiple occasions

Not having a differing opinion. He was actually given a longer leash than most due to his differing opinion. It’s a shame he so squarely violated the site guidelines. I wish he were back.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2010 6:14 PM MST up reply actions  

And it wasn't okay

Hizilla was disciplined

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2010 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll offer an apology

Calling you names for an obvious attempt to troll was still out of line.

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by Hizilla on Feb 20, 2010 11:25 PM MST up reply actions  

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 20, 2010 11:36 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Well, it's not hatred, pretty strong phrasing there.

He has had one good season, and since then has been downright pedestrian. He caught a lot of breaks in 2007, and was bound to regress. Since then, he’s showed up out of shape, he’s overpaid, he’s hurt, and just hasn’t been as good.

My issue is that we have a lot of healthy, in shape talent that could step up to the pen at a moment’s notice.

I think he was doctoring the ball because of the drastic decline in the movement he’s gotten on his slider the past 2 seasons. I’m not basing this off of what one bitter Philly fan said, I’m basing it off of discussions we’ve had here on this website.

I usually do favor talent, yes, but I favor Winning more, and Corpas doesn’t seem to be a guy who’s gonna really push us in that direction.

I’m also not alone in this line of thought. If you’ll recall, Renck put Corpas out there as a strong trade candidate, given his salary and up and down past.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

His slider has lost bite

But I’d put 10:1 odds on the reasoning being poor mechanics/out of shape over ball doctoring.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

and I'm not convinced OF the doctoring either

I’m just saying that he may not be as good as he looked for some reason.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

I just think he’s lazy and got complacent after getting the contract.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

sounds about right

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

It really is strange

Less than a year ago, many of us were arguing that Corpas should be the closer instead of Street

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I argued for buchholz :V

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not saying

the guy is a lock to return to 2007 form, but I’m saying that it seems WAY premature to assume he’s never going to be that good again. As I noted, the scouts were in love with his stuff, and it wasn’t smoke and mirrors. No way we make the WS, IMO, without his lights-out performance. We needed to win every time he stepped out there, and he delivered.

Now, certainly the last two years have taken a lot of shine off. I have concerns just like you do, but I take the view that we first see whether or not the 2008/9 version is for real before jumping ship. Some guys simply don’t handle the $$$/success well, and he might be one of those guys. And if so, I’m with you.

But isn’t that all what ST is for? Finding out these answers? Let’s see what he brings to AZ.

As for winning, me too. That’s why I favor giving the elite talent a shot. I like guys like Daley just fine, but 2007 Corpas makes Daley look like John Wasdin or something. And if Corpas doesn’t work out, the rest of those guys are still around.

by Teekalong on Feb 19, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Wohlers

Remember when Kerry Ligtenberg showed up and put out the fire from Mark Wohlers imploding career? Wohlers, also incredibly talented like Corpas, just blew up one day and was never the same.

It’s not practical for the Rockies (maybe it is for fans) to have any expectations for Corpas because there are so many guys around who could be that Ligtenberg.

No, his numbers haven’t been awful the last two years, but he just can’t pitch in high leverage situations. His numbers have probably benefited from pitching in lower risk circumstances. His FIP in high leverage was more than 5 runs higher than low/medium last year, and more than two runs higher the year before.

With Daley around, and Weathers and Bucky coming down the road, there’s no reason the club needs to hang its hat on Manny recovering his head.

It’d be awesome (for him, for fans, and for the team) if he did, but even then – he’s a good righty among several other good righties, not the closer or a pitcher who’s going to add significant wins to the team.

by deacs on Feb 19, 2010 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

The rockies (luckily) don't need to depend on Manny bouncing back

but he will make $2.75M this year and $3.5M next year. I think it’s reasonable for fans and the FO to have some expectations. He probably will never be a true closer again, but I think he can become a solid setup option while we have him.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

that money's not even terrible

considering we have paid him essentially nothing so far (while getting less than nothing in return)

People cite this as a terrible contract, but it’s not even close to bad. A 250k buyout in 2011and we are done with it. Will we get our money’s worth? Most likely not. Was it worth the risk? After 2007, I say absolutely.

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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

It was the right gamble to make at the time.

The FO has done well locking down talent early, which is a risk but the only way a lower revenue team can compete.

It just may be tougher to work out a trade if Corpas pitches like crap this year.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

that's what Waivers are for :-/

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

yep.

We are going to eat the contract regardless, might as well free up a roster spot

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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

that's if we straight up cut him

if you put a player on waivers, any team that claims him takes on his salary and remaining contract.

If he clears and we have to release him, then yeah, the other teams pay league min and we pay the remnant.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

right

I always get a little confused when it comes to transaction rules. Muchas gracias.

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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

If the Rockies can't trade him,

and they can’t, no other team is going to claim him. They will just wait for the release and let the Rockies pay his salary and pay minimal for the reclamation project.
Cut=no claim.
Either way, muzia was right. Rockies will pay out his contract.

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by rockieprogress on Feb 19, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

well in the long run

but the actual mechanics of it he was off about, but we’re all good now!

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

He'd have to be

very bad I guess. He hasn’t come close to a total disaster of a year yet though (like Lidge) in my mind though.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

True enough, when you stack it next to an entire payroll

but the cost of replacement is so low that it just hurts to pay a guy anything more than necessary to be a low-leverage reliever.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

ST is no problem really

but if he doesn’t really shake it in ST but still gets the roster spot because he’s overpaid and was elite for one season (while sporting absurdly low BABIP, high LOB%, and a massive FIP/ERA discrepancy), how long of a leash of “well he’s working hard blah blah” does he get? April? May? Trade Deadline?

I know that having relievers blow games is part of every team. I just don’t want it to happen and I’d like to be proactive.

Just for the record, if Corpas comes back healthy and looks awesome and I look like a moron, kudos, I will eat that crow with Cholula and a tortilla. And maybe smothered in Green Chili.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Are we going to be able to send Corpas down to Triple A with that contract?

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

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by bballrox4717 on Feb 19, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

That was an utter brainfart, lol

I just remembered how long Kei Igawa has been pitching in Triple A with the contract he has

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

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by bballrox4717 on Feb 19, 2010 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

oh god Igawa

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

BABIP?

FIP? Haven’t you seen where the Rockies don’t look at those numbers?

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by rockieprogress on Feb 19, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

wat

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, BABIP and FIP

are not tracked on espn.com, ergo, the Rockies dont’ look at them. It’s all about ERA, PICH COUNTZ, and WINZZZ!!!!1.

Actually, espn.com DOES track BABIP, but labels it as BIPA… and Defensive Independant ERA (DIPS). Wonder if those are park adjusted.

by denver_sc on Feb 19, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

oh. Tracy, right.

Well, the FO does track them.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 20, 2010 1:03 AM MST up reply actions  

What makes you say that he has shown up out of shape?

I clearly remember Troy Renck talking about how hard he had worked in the offseason before the ’09 season.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 19, 2010 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I touched on this above

but if you google “corpas out of shape” the first few links show him admitting showing up out of shape and unfocused. It stains the memory a nice shade of selective.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 20, 2010 2:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm afraid Cookie has shown up to ST out of shape..

with his 10 extra pounds of manmeat AND he hasn’t cut his hair since the 09 ASB.

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by Charlie77 on Feb 21, 2010 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll grant that it will probably be frustrating.

I’m just not ready to write him off after a medicore 2008 & injury-ridden 2009. Thankfully we don’t have to rely on him to shut down in the 8th or 9th any time soon so hopefully he’ll have time to get back to where he needs to be.

I haven’t seen any proof that he was doctoring that postseason, there wasn’t much behind those accusations.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Don't forget too....

that Corpas was the favorite of a lot of people here at the end of Spring Training last year to be the closer. He had a great spring. It would have been interesting if he hadn’t gotten hurt.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 19, 2010 4:56 PM MST up reply actions  

stupid small pictures

I was gonna be clever and photoshop Rogers over Corpas’ name and Olivo’s face over Torrealba’s, but alas.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

You'll get half of that maybe :)

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by Maria M on Feb 19, 2010 8:40 AM MST up reply actions  

$1,000,000 Question

with a strong defense, above average offense and above average pitching…do the Rockies have their first 20 game winner this season and who?

I ranked the pitchers from most likely to most unlikely to win 20 games.
1. Ubaldo (has been consistent in reaching 200+ innings)
2. Hammel (maybe 15 wins?)
3. JDLR (?)
4. Francis (Injuries seem to be a problem)
5. Cook (injuries seem to be a problem for him to pitch 32 games)

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by lizardlad01 on Feb 19, 2010 8:40 AM MST reply actions  

If I was putting money on it

it’d be uball obviously. I’d put Cook (and maybe Francis) ahead of Hammel though, but it’s a crapshoot. I think they all could pitch well enough over the season that with a bit of luck and timely run support they all stand a chance of sniffing 15. That’s a pretty nice thought going into the season.

by phishbate on Feb 19, 2010 8:47 AM MST up reply actions  

This exactly

We didn’t have a 20 game winner last year (though Ubaldo is the obvious choice this year) but the entire rotation won at least 10 games. If we can come close to that level of success again this season, we will all be very happy fans.

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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

If we see more "Good Jorge"

He’s got the stuff for 20. I’m still eating crow about my opinion to trade him last May (though, he did suck something fierce). I don’t think it’s going too far out on a limb to say that his 2nd half showed him what he’s capable of, and that it should help him this year.

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by SoxRoxFan on Feb 19, 2010 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Jorge doesn't have the sheer longevity required to win 20.

The fact that the offense seems to spark late (well, we do well in the 3rd and 4th, but we also spark in the 6th and 7th) may mean that DLR gets poor run support during his 5 strong innings, and he may not have the magic required to get through the 6 or 7 in order to remain the pitcher of record AND get the benefit of that late spark while still pitching effectively.

I’d still rather have him be nails for 5 or 6 than try to stretch him and get an awful 7 or 8 just to try and get a pitching win. I’d rather the team win.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

In principle, I agree

Last year I wondered if it was purely that he nothing left in the tank, or if the “Nuke LaLoosh” factor kicked in, and he needed Tracy or Iannetta (or Torre) to tell him to “Quit thinkin’ meat!” He’s got really nasty stuff and I love watching him pitch when his head’s in the game. Dunno if that will change this year. Talent wise, barring the fact that he IS a head case, he has the stuff to win 20

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by SoxRoxFan on Feb 19, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

In a way he reminds me of Derek Lowe

When he was with Seattle. Granted different type of pitcher, but it seemed that Lowe would have a brilliant start, then his next would be an epic implosion after the 2nd or 3rd inning. His mind would wander (to wherever Lowe’s mind wandered to).

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by SoxRoxFan on Feb 19, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I would go with

Hammel or Cook.

I think Ubaldo will have a great season…and do well in the Cy Young votes…but he is also going to be up against the best pitchers the NL has to offer…I think run support will be hard to come by in those games, but he should be able to win a good chunk of them…maybe not enough to get 20 wins…but I would be happy if he had 15-18.

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by Maria M on Feb 19, 2010 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

It's a myth that #1 starters face better competition than other slots

Due to off days, injuries and rotation shuffling, Ubaldo will face his share of the bottom end of rotations also. Look at Josh Fogg in ‘07 – he wasn’t a top-of-the-rotation starter, but he sure faced a lot of them through the year.

by controlled_slide on Feb 19, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Livan Hernandez.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

selling hot dogs?

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Th poor man's Babe Ruth

That’s what I always thought. Remember when stories like this were the norm? Frank Castillo hit a homerun in batting practice! He won a bet with a solidly mediocre member of the McRae family. OMG!

by deacs on Feb 19, 2010 9:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Mickey Morandini. Wow.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 9:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I think

Uball has the best shot. After that I’d go JDLR, Francis, Hammel, and Cook. But yeah, I’m definitely expecting 20 out of Uball this year!

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by ShadowPenguin on Feb 19, 2010 9:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Hard to believe

Hammel has the second best shot at 20. Only JDLR and Ubaldo have a chance, and as Maria M said, Ubaldo is unlikely because of the competition he’ll face.

Cook has had tough second halves the last three years (injury, roughed up, roughed up/injury), Francis is coming off an injury and likely won’t have the stamina to go deep into starts or the season, and Hammel is too inconsistent.

by deacs on Feb 19, 2010 9:26 AM MST up reply actions  

re: Gagne

Electing to rehab without surgery, he pitched last season for Quebec City in the independent Can-Am League and went 6-6 with a 4.65 ERA with 64 strikeouts in 102 2/3 innings.

I had one of those browser fails where all the new comments got unmarked, so I may have missed this, but wow, that’s pretty poor.

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 9:04 AM MST reply actions  

that league's traditionally tough, right?

there has to be a park factor in here somewhere…

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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

rougher than Major League Baseball?

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 9:16 AM MST up reply actions  

man, you have no idea

I tried pitching there once, ended up with a 5.23 ERA, only 14 strikeouts in 23 IP.

I am only 5’8", but still. My 62 mph fastball has some juice behind it.

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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Gagne was starting most of the time...

while those numbers are terrible, we all know that starting and closing are two completely different animals and Gagne struggled as a starter in MLB too.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Feb 19, 2010 5:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Gagne nearly

blew the 2007 pennant for Boston all by himself. He is the biggest bust I have ever witnessed in sports. If there is one pitcher in all of baseball that was on steriods, it has to be him.

I spent half the season dreaming of a Rox vs. Sox series and he nearly destroyed my dream…he’s my least favorite pitcher of all time…not that I’m the type of person to hold a grudge.

by 4thturn on Feb 19, 2010 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I can certainly see Eithier Regressing

Although not a huge amount it will still be enough to effect the Dodgers viability as the favorite. Couple that with all of the other areas they’ve weekend this year, i.e. losing Hudson, Wolf, Piere, they have a lot of ground to make up.

by BringItHome on Feb 19, 2010 10:51 AM MST reply actions  

losing Hudson/Wolf

and Pierre and they are weakened? I don;t see it. How much did Hudson really contribute.? He was benched in Sept and October. Wolf was solid, but he wasn’t going to repeat that season in LA…..Padilla won’t duplicate Wolf’s numbers, but he is a capable 4th.
Dewitt/Belliard will provide more power at 2B than Hudson provided, not so good in the field.
The Dodgers bench in 2010 is much better than the 2009 version. Anything they get from their bench this year will be gravy vs what they got last year. Pierre filled in nicely starting for Manny during his suspension, but when coming off the bench, he wasn’t so great.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 19, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

true

but he has the skills to overcome the 2nd half. He had trouble repeating his delivery and has already worked with Honeycutt on his delivery. I think he bounces back.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 19, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

HAHAHA

the minute I saw BringItHome’s comment, my first thought was “ok where’s raygu”

next post BAM

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

lol

I just happened to stop over too…..

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 19, 2010 3:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed that Wolf wouldn't repeat his 2009 if he stayed

Padilla would have to in 2010, or there’s a loss there. Hudson was fantastic the first half, and you won’t get near that production from Carroll/Green/DeWitt

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I think BringItHome was looking at the season as a whole with Hudson

During the first third of 2009, Hudson had something like a .340 average and a .900 OPS which helped propel the Dodgers to that 34-15 start. (That put them 14.5 games ahead of the Rockies in the division and 4.5 games ahead of the Red Sox for the best record in baseball)

When Hudson’s production slowed later in the year, the Dodgers did not win as many games and were eventually forced to bench him. While I realize that there were many other factors that went into this, it would be foolish to think the Hudson’s decline didn’t at least contribute to the Dodgers mediocre 34-33 record in the last 67 games of the season. The bottom line is that a DeWitt/Belliard combination is going to produce numbers a heck of lot closer to Hudon’s post All Star break .767 OPS than his .900 OPS during the first two months of last season. That means a reduction in production at second base for the Dodgers over the course of the 162 game season.

As far as Wolf goes, I agree that he wasn’t going to repeat his production from last year. The point however remains that the Dodgers are losing his 2009 production and havn’t brought in anyone to replace it. The Dodgers need a surprise breakout year from a pitcher just to get back to the same level of production they got from their rotation in 2009. While I think both Billingsley and Kershaw could both get better next season, that still won’t be enough to offset the loss of Wolf’s production.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 19, 2010 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

yes that's exaclty what I meant

During certain points of the season those three guys carried the team more or less. Hudson for the first couple of months, Pierre while Manny was out and Wolf who was more or less their ace. Padilla and Caroll will not fill those roles, not even close! Of course they had Eithier in there to hit a walk off every now and then but I’m sure most Dodgers fans would even admit he is not going to be as clutch as he was last year. By caparison, the Rockies have had to fill only three slots one of which had the worst year of career in Atkins, we’ve improved there with Stewart/Mora. Marquis will be replaced by Francis who can be an upgrade (but as Rox Girl has said, we really only need him to be as good as cook was last year if Cook can be as good as Marquis was last year), and of course Tori’s position will be upgraded if Iannetta/Olivo do what we know they can.

by BringItHome on Feb 19, 2010 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

BIH

you are right…Carroll won’t fill Hudson’s role because he won’t be starting….it will be betweenh Belliard and Dewitt.
Padilla pitched alot better in the pitchers park in LA vs Texas….don’t underestimate based on his Texas stats.
Have you really improved with Stewart and his .230 BA? I don’t see Francis replacing Marquis.
Pierre carried the Dodgers? not sure I agree with you. He filled in nicely, for sure, but I wouldn’t get carried away. Same with Hudson.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 19, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Caroll will be replacing Hudson on the bench

I know he will not be a starter. I would not expect much from Belliard this year if I were you. Padilla stunk because he pitched poorly not because he was in Texas. Stewart had a poor batting average and was the primary starter for most of the season. He will improve on that immensely but as I’ve said before I’m ok with a low batting average from him. He is a power hitter and I believe can challenge Reynolds for the best third base power hitter in the division. Compared to Blake all around, I’d take Stewart anyday, especially defensively. You don’t have to agree with me that Pierre carried your team but that is the truth. Where would you have been without him when Manny went down last year? I’ll tell where, wild card at best.

by BringItHome on Feb 19, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

While I understand Rox Girl'slogic about Marquis/Francis/Cook

I don’t know if anyone’s pointed out the big flaw. In order to remain on a par with last season, we are depending on TWO variables (Cook as good as Marquis and Francis as good as Cook) instead of one (Francis as good as Marquis). If either doesn’t happen, then we miss out, which hugely increases this likelihood.

by biondino on Feb 21, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Sort of, not quite that simple

The scenarios aren’t exclusive. Sure, we could hope Cook—>Marquis and Francis—>Cook, but Francis could—→Marquis and Cook could be better too. Additionally, the two variables summed are arguably in better likelihood as Marquis’ season by itself last season, or of Francis reaching Marquis’ status. Besides, the offense has plenty of potential to pick up the slack even if the either doesn’t happen, so we won’t completely miss out.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 21, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Well obviously if the offence scores 1000 runs etc.

But that’s another “if”. I love PR and the optimism AND genuine analysis, but occasionally checks and balances are needed.

Mathematically, and over-simplistically – if there’s a 75% chance of Cook aping Marquis and a 75% chance of Francis aping Cook – I hope you’ll agree this is generous – then there’s a 56% chance of both happening. Tow likely events, but together, only slightly better than evens. It has to be borne in mind.

by biondino on Feb 21, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

We don't have to score 1000 runs though

The likelihood of the offense improving outweighs the likehood of it regressing or even remaining stagnant. We won’t have the least valuable 3B position in the division again. I understand what you’re getting at, but there are other variables in play. The Cook/Marquis/Francis illustration is overly simplistic more to argue that Francis doesn’t have to replace Marquis himself. Even though there are other variables I’m adding in, they can also overshoot the necessary replacement value they need.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 21, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I've said Ethier will regress, but I really think their big losses on offense relative to 2009

will come from the Hudson to Belliard/Carroll/DeWitt switch, a drop back to the average range by Blake (that’s going to be almost two wins right there) and a smaller contribution from their left fielders. That’s just a lot of ground to be losing and they haven’t really done anything to address it. Had I been Colletti into the offseason, I would have tried to sign Felipe Lopez if my bridges with Hudson were burnt, traded Loney and replaced him with Nick Johnson or La Roche, and brought in a 1a starting caliber catcher to complement and give rest to Martin. Hopefully upgrade the bench with something better than Jamey Carroll in the Loney trade (although I did like their Reed Johnson move, easily LA’s best move of the offseason, IMO).

As it is, though, I think they’re going to be dropping back from the 25 win offense they had in 2009 to something closer to 20 wins in 2010. We concentrate on their weak rotation, but I really think the lineup is where they may have some serious disappointment relative to many fans’ expectations this season.

by Rox Girl on Feb 19, 2010 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

a drop back to the average range by Blake (that’s going to be almost two wins right there)

Are you suggesting Blake’s high UZR was “fluky” in terms of it not being real due to standard UZR sample sizes? Or that he actually produced that range in 2009 but can’t reproduce it? If it’s the latter, I believe defensive skills can be learned and he might reproduce it. If it’s the former, then his “fluky” defensive skills would show in numbers but not in actual wins on the field in 2009. Then a regression would appear in the numbers, but not necessarily production. Maybe.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

He had three straight negative UZR seasons before 2009

What I’m suggesting is that many balls in play that for whatever reason found their way into his glove in 2009, will get through in 2010. That will show up in the Dodgers’ pitching numbers. His offensive production, though I can almost guarantee will also drop, and I think it’s going to drop quite significantly in 2010.

by Rox Girl on Feb 19, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

So it was neither of my suggestions

Makes sense

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

If you're looking at probable regressions

Can’t help but to look at Furcal, and see that he’s due for some major regression in the fielding department as well, and that the icky .316 wOBA seems to Furcal’s true talent level: 2008 was a total fluke when you look at his numbers the past 3 years. I like Reed Johnson as a Pierre replacement though: while Pierre’s speed is irreplaceable, Johnson does pretty well to come close to his batting and fielding totals. It also doesn’t help that Martin is ranked as a poor catcher, that he’ll once again get too many starts, and that their corner outfield defense is absolutely awful. Loney and Kemp are their best and only positive fielders at this point, though i don’t know how their 2nd base defense will turn out. The Dodgers don’t look to be a strong fielding team at all in 2010, and I think people are totally forgetting about that going forward into next year.

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by bballrox4717 on Feb 19, 2010 2:28 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe

but will Manny’s bat overcome his defensive deficiencies? It usually does.
Same with Ethier…next.
Furcal isn’t a good fielding SS? how is he due for MAJOR regression?

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 19, 2010 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Have you seen Furcal's consistently negative UZR totals?

A year doesn’t mean much, but when an entire career is full of bad defensive ratings/scores, I think I’ll go with the ratings if they’re consistently bad. Why should Furcal suddenly rate as a fantastic shortstop at 32 years old when for his entire career he’s been a below average fielding one?

We’ve already established that Ethier is a prime candidate for regression (doesn’t mean there’s no way around it), at least in the power category. His OPS didn’t really improve from 2008, he pretty much substituted raw ISO for his avg, which led to the same SLG but less OBP from the year before. His line drive rate which fueled a BABIP that let him hit for average fell and his flyball skyrocketed. He also had a huge home/away split, in which he had way bigger numbers at home than away. I think it’s well known that Dodger stadium is a big pitcher’s park, which makes it weird; his HR/FB rate (21.2%) is great at home. but very, very poor for opposing stadiums (9.3 %). Manny’s HR/FB isn’t even that good, so if it regresses towards the mean, Ethier may be in for huge problems next year if the line drive rate and the fly ball rate stays the same.

Who really knows about Manny; since he was caught using PED’s, his bat isn’t nearly as good as it was since he went to LA in 2008, and he looks more like the hitter he was in Boston before the trade. If his bat dips into the .375 wOBA range like in his 2007 Boston year, than his defense makes him look a worse than he does when he’s mashing. Just for example, even though he had a .396 wOBA this year, he only had a 2.8 WAR (and that’s with Fangraphs believing his fielding has been better since Boston). When he had a .375 wOBA over a full year, he had 1 WAR. Just one. If he goes to that level and the LF production is decreased from about 4.9 WAR (combining Manny and Pierre’s production) to a 1.0 WAR, that’s a loss of 4 wins for the Dodgers. That’s just Manny’s loss alone; with decreased WAR from fielding regressions, losing Wolf’s 2009 season and with less production from the bottom of the rotation, it puts you guys below the Rockies. Then again, that’s a worst case scenario for you guys and I’m not even accounting for any injuries to happen, which your depth can’t allow for in 2010.

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by bballrox4717 on Feb 19, 2010 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, and you guys were just 3 games ahead of us last year

and if De la Rosa wasn’t injured in the second to last game of the year, who knows what would’ve happened. I think I agree with PHLP that his injury really hurt us at the end.

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by bballrox4717 on Feb 19, 2010 5:44 PM MST up reply actions  

dodgers lost Pierre and Hudson

and were replaced by no one special. How does that give them a better bench that 2009? Also Padilla was strong down the stretch, but was bad the first 4 months of the season. He is going to get worked when he comes to Denver this year.

by BringItHome on Feb 19, 2010 11:23 AM MST reply actions  

Pierre

is he that much better than Reed Johnson? Johnson has to be upgrade defensively….I haven’t looked.
Remember Padilla is going from pitching in Texas-a hitters park to LA-a pitcher park.
Hudson was special? early in the year? yes. The whole year-No. You are selling Dewitt/belliard combo short, if you ask me.
And Ubaldo will get worked in LA like he usually does.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 19, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I want FrancisMatzek footage

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

if I was going to Tucson

I would upload hours of Matzek footage

Attention Whore.

by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I just might

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

wanna borrow my camera?

I am only half joking

Attention Whore.

by Muzia on Feb 19, 2010 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

hmm,

Would you say that gets grouped into “Best shape of his life” or “Adding a new pitch”? I think it’s BSOHL category.

by Rox Girl on Feb 19, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry but I just have to show this.

Just got my Valley Championship ring for football. Look at this thing:

It’s on my finger now. This thing is a beauty.

by CentralCaliRox on Feb 19, 2010 5:02 PM MST reply actions  

Very big, and those 4 light blue diamonds represents

The 4 Valley Championships the football team has ever won at my school. I’m part of a pretty prestigious club, if I may say so myself.

by CentralCaliRox on Feb 19, 2010 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice work

my senior year we were thrilled to beat another 0-6 team to avoid a winless season ourselves. The celebration was embarrassing. Enjoy it…

by Teekalong on Feb 19, 2010 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

nice!

Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong

PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?

by SDcat09 on Feb 19, 2010 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice.

I sliced my left index finger and got 5 stitches.

"Shall it be peace, or a sword?" - Excised line from Lincoln's First Inaugural Address

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by Russ Oates on Feb 19, 2010 10:01 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Thank you for sharing this riveting information

You have now learned an important safety lesson?

I can haz NL West title?

by Silverblood on Feb 19, 2010 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I shouldn't use a box cutter.

"Shall it be peace, or a sword?" - Excised line from Lincoln's First Inaugural Address

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by Russ Oates on Feb 19, 2010 10:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

And here I was imagining you in a Lazy Boy

furiously flipping pages in a book on Kosovo

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2010 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I do that every couple of days.

"Shall it be peace, or a sword?" - Excised line from Lincoln's First Inaugural Address

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!
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by Russ Oates on Feb 20, 2010 1:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Pulling a Cargo, eh?

Don't hate the player, hate the game, except all Yankees players.

by SoxRoxFan on Feb 19, 2010 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Looking at your sig...

“Shall it be peace, a sword, or a box cutter?”

Don't hate the player, hate the game, except all Yankees players.

by SoxRoxFan on Feb 19, 2010 10:32 PM MST reply actions  

Doh! Reply fail

Don't hate the player, hate the game, except all Yankees players.

by SoxRoxFan on Feb 19, 2010 10:32 PM MST up reply actions  

About Barmes in the batters box...

 I agree with Tracy that Barmes lacks a trigger; but I want to know if he is excessivly right eye dominate. I feel part of his inconsistancy is not seeing the ball with both eyes. When he is fielding he squares his head to the ball about as well as any one. At the plate I’ve seen him sort of tuck his chin obscuring his right eye.
 Maybe he should open his stance a little; close it as he swings and end with a shorter stride. It might mean slightly less power but a probable better rate of contact and enough power to substantialy raise his number of doubles.
 I don’t think it should be as exagerated as Galararaga was. I would also like to see him do Barry Bonds’s hitting drill.

by Oldfoagie on Feb 19, 2010 11:37 PM MST reply actions  

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