Monday Rockpile: Spring is underway! Wheeeeee!
by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 7:44 AM MST
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PrintGood morning Rowbots and Rowbettes alike. I'd like to start off this morning's Rockpile by sharing a little something grabbed off of Twitter last night from Jayson Stark:
Here's a thought that ought to warm you up out there. This was the last Sunday without a baseball game to watch until Nov. 7. Play ball!
That's right, it's almost game time. Veterans are finding young legs, prospects are developing, oft-injured players are getting hurt again already and the dumb GMs that signed them anyway are baffled at how that went wrong, and somebody is rocking a ridiculous haircut/facial hair ensemble, or lack thereof.
Ah, yes, Spring. The time for new hopes, new beginnings, and new excuses for the Cubs not winning the World Series. Wait, scratch that. They'll just put a little spitshine on the old one and pass it off as new.
Despite snow on the ground in Denver and a miserable grey sky, it's apparently clear and sunny in Arizona, where somewhere, somehow, the Royals are under .500.
But seriously, it's a time of growth and life, Spring, as evidenced by our own Jason Hammel.
Hammel time moves fast for Rockies' fifth starter - Troy Renck (The Denver Post)
After an offseason raise and a wedding, Hammel finds himself in a position where he never was in Tampa Bay: Starting. He may have been on-again-off-again during his stay in The Sunshine State, he really made an impression on their coaching staff the way he did ours. You'll remember that during our short 2009 Postseason run, Hammel was handed the ball rather than proven Winnar Jason Marquis. As you read into the article, you'll see that Hammel abandoned a sinker (GASP) and relied on his 4-seam fastball, finding himself with better command and still an acceptable number of ground balls. We'll see how well this works going forward.
And in case you missed the obvious line in Renck's article title:
Rockies Notes: Rockies won't let Giants get look at Jimenez - Troy Renck (Denver Post)
Some quick notes in here: First, Jimenez is being intentionally started against the Angels during split squad matchups rather than the Giants. Jim Tracy hasn't forgotten that rivalry down the stretch.
Francis is still trying to reign in his delivery, but that's to be fully expected after so long out of commission.
Huston Street is waiting to hear back from the feds regarding being given oxygen treatments during rehab back in Oakland on a nerve in his elbow by Dr. Anthony Galea, who's been linked to violating MLB's drug policy.
There might be an intrasquad game today!!!!!
Veteran Mora steps into new role with the Rockies - Jack Etkin (Inside the Rockies)
During a rainy Sunday morning, Melvin Mora sits at his locker and regales the young latin players with tales of his years in the Dominican Summer League as well as 7 years of minor league play, and even a stop in Taiwan. It's good to hear that the veteran benefits are already paying off. You know, in the form of StoryTime.
Chacin tries to beat odds, make roster - Thomas Harding (MLB.com)
Beat Writer Thomas Harding documents Jhoulys Chacin's desire to break camp on the roster. I frankly don't see it happening, but apparently he's put a lot of work into commanding his pitches, and we'll have to see what turns up.
Betancourt, Hawpe delay Cactus League debuts - Thomas Harding (Hardball in the Rockies)
On his blog, Thomas Harding is also reporting that Hawpe and Betancourt aren't going to be participating in the upcoming games. Betancourt is playing catchup from a spell of sickness he had post-Christmas that caused him to miss about 3 weeks of preparation. Basically it's regaining strength, etc. He feels like he's close, but he needs to just face hitters a bit more in a practice situation before he's ready for game competition. Hawpe is still finishing up that nasty toe problem he has, but he says he's just a couple of days away.
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Back in January
I answered some questions for some website’s team preview of the Rockies. It finally appeared the other day.
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The only reason I don't drink more Franklin Mor-Ales...
…is because its so hard to predict what taste you’ll get. You might get a bottle that’s crisp, delicious, and electrifying, but you could also get one that’s flat, stale, and underwhelming.
That’s why Helton’s Jesus Lager is my drink of choice. Its not quite as tasty as it used to be, but you know the aged, smooth taste you’ll be getting in every sip.
So long as you don’t damage the bottle, of course.
We've had
Helton’s Jesus Lage for quite some time. Need to change it up.
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If Giambi had a beer
I thought it would be more like Sam Adams Summer Ale.
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My beer of choice is Stew's New Brew
It gets you less loopy with one-third of the calories
sorry. groannnn
Stan Marsh is a Rockies fan.
by fantasyfencing on Mar 1, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
the best part?
it’s incompatible with the Atkins diet.
Attention Whore.
by Muzia on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
WIN
a rec for you good sir
Stan Marsh is a Rockies fan.
by fantasyfencing on Mar 1, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Rocktober
I’m getting ready to brew a marzen/octoberfest ale for the playoffs right now. Funny that you’re all talking brews here.
Some of them
are planning a brewfest soon. There’s a FanPost about it.
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So I think Renck should give credit for PR coining STOP Hammel Time!
Now if we see an article about Carlos Gonzalez and it refers to him as TEH LAZOR then we’ll know for sure that he is scavaging.
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
looks like they did change the headline, which does happen from time to time
Andrew has the initial headline still posted intave in the article
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 1, 2010 12:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Oxygen
the ultimate performance enhancing drug…
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Mar 1, 2010 8:22 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I've been trying to break my oxygen addiction lately...
But I’m pathetic. I can barely go two minutes without it-my head starts spinning and I feel faint.
Is there a 12-step program out there for me?
It seems like no one can stay compeditive without it...
…some role models.
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by fantasyfencing on Mar 1, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
it's true. 99.9%of cancer patients have been known to use oxygen sometime in their lives.
I mean, say what you like about the tenets of Rockies baseball, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
What have the other .1% been breathing all this time?
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by bleedspurple on Mar 1, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
Xargon.
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Some notes about Hawpe and Betancourt have been updated to the article
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Bill James ranks the Rockies second in MLB
In his young talent inventory as part of his 2010 handbook. Additionally, he ranks Tulo as the 17th most valuable young asset (comically close to Fangraphs’ Dave Cameron’s ranking of Tulo in his ranking of a similar criterion, for which he was villified). Ahead of tulo are Longo, Timmy, Hanley, Punkton, Fielder and Kemp, among others
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 1, 2010 11:50 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Does anybody else think Kemp is overrated?
Sure, he plays a premium position and appears to have all the tools. But he isn’t even that much better than Dex. He has more power, and (so far) a better stolen base percentage. But Dex has a better OBP, and strikes out less. Also, I think Kemp’s defense is exaggerated. This could be because I remember seeing him misplay a line out into a double at Coors, but I still think he’s nothing special. And to say he’s more valuable than Tulo just seems ignorant.
OK, I’m done.
I don't think he's overrated
Unless people are thinking that he should have been the MVP last year or something. He was at least a 5-win player last year, and he’s only 25. His defense probably wasn’t worth a gold glove, but he seems to be at least a decent defender (by the stats; I haven’t seen him play), and is a great baserunner and hitter. Better than Tulo? No. Better than Dex? Quite a bit right now, and I doubt Dex ever gets that good with the bat.
by controlled_slide on Mar 1, 2010 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
I would trade anybody on our team not named Tulo or Ubaldo for Kemp.
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
How about...
Iannetta and Seth Smith for Kemp, straight across? Deal?
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
oh wait I did it wrong
IANNETTA IS CLEARLY THE BEST CATCHER IN ALL EXISTENCE BECAUSE I MADE UP NUMBERS THAT SOMEHOW STRETCH REALITY AND TELL ME THAT MY FAVORITE PLAYERS ARE AMAZING WHEN THEY SUCK IN REALITY
JOHNNY BENCH AND CARLTON FISK LICK HIS BOOTS
SABR TELLS ME THIS ALSO I AM A FANBOY AND CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE OBJECTIVE WHATSOEVER ABOUT MY FAVORITE PLAYERS
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
THE DODGERS SHOULD GIVE US KERSHAW KEMP AND DEE GORDON SIMPLY TO DISCUSS IANNETTA
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
ha, I know right?
But yeah, I’d trade Iannetta and Smith easily
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know if we need him...
obviously he is a 5-tool player, and every team can use a five tool guy, but I wouldn’t sacrifice this season for Kemp…McKenry and Rosario aren’t ready, and I wouldn’t want to trust Olivo to take us to the playoffs.
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oh I agree
I’m not even looking at the scope of the entire team and such, I’m just saying pound-for-pound talent I would move them.
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
OK, I'm not saying that Iannetta is the greatest catcher ever.
I don’t want to start any debates here. But if you look at their career wOBA, CDI is at .352 and Kemp is at .359. Kemp has more MLB experience, but they both play premium defensive positions at somewhere around an average level. Maybe you feel like Kemp has more potential for improvement, but I don’t see why it should be so clear cut.
look at the progression of Kemp's wOBA
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
It's gone up and down
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2010 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
hm. Good call
I could’ve sworn that he’d improved every season. I must be thinking of WAR.
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 4:41 PM MST up reply actions
WAR works really well
(0.2, 1.8, 3.4, and 5.0) and I agree he’s a stud. I’m not sure I’d rank him as high as that article did but he should still be pretty high up there.
I think your point about dealing anyone but Tulo or Ubaldo for Kemp was dead on from a talent standpoint.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2010 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think I would trade Iannetta and S Smith for Kemp...
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one huge thing to consider
Like Matt holliday, Kemp was an elite athlete at multiple sports and was courted to play at the highest level at multiple sports. Like Holliday, he had a lot of tools but nothing statistically spectacular in the minors. Such athletes really do have quite a bit of potential once focusing on one sport
Additionally, dex was somewhere in the top twenty in mlb in K/AB, and I don’t think Kemp was anywhere near that level.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 1, 2010 12:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
If you look at career K/PA
(which is better, because using an AB basis removes the productive appearances that result in walks), then Dex actually comes out ahead: .228 vs. .222. Also, when you consider that Dex skipped AAA altogether, he probably also has room for improvement.
Now, I’m not trying to say that Dex is a better player or will be a better player than Kemp. But I don’t think there is a huge gap. And there are lots of players on the Rockies who I would not trade for Kemp, starting with DLR and Iannetta but also including Smith, CarGo, Stewart, Hammel, Cook, Morales, Street, and the list could probably go on.
I would trade everyone on that list except for maybe Cargo in a heartbeat if Kemp was my return
Attention Whore.
Why? Do you really think he's that good?
I guess I was a bit overzealous with Cook and some of the others, but to me his value seems to be tied to the fact that he’s an acceptable defender at a premium position, and has a fairly high SLG. He also has speed. I don’t think that is better than Iannetta’s combination of patience and power at a premium position.
I think a 25 year old CF who is a probable 30 HR 30 SB guy for multiple years is worth quite a bit
Your list included 5 pitchers (our farm strength), 4 of whom are already arbitration eligible or are in the last years of their contracts (club options not included).
As much as I love Seth Smith, a 28 year old bench player (sigh) is an easy piece to give up.
If CDI repeats his 2008, then we’ll talk. Other than that, Cargo is the only one I say no to, and only because of his cost certainty for the next few years.
Attention Whore.
Yeah
CarGo gives me pause, but beyond him no hesitation, I’d trade any two (and possibly three) of our non-Tulo/Ubaldo regular players for Kemp. He’s already great and has a huge upside still. I can easily see him becoming a better version of Matt Holliday.
francis
does anyone know of a way we can listen to the giants game? I’m so anxious to hear francis pitch
Doesn't look like KOA will be covering the game
Perhaps the Giants radio affiliate will be broadcasting the game?
Here are the games KOA will broadcast, from their official website:
March 4th @ Dbacks
March 6th vs Brewers
March 7th vs Dbacks
March 13th @ Brewers
March 14th vs Brewers
March 20th vs Angels
March 21st @ Royals
March 27th vs White Sox
March 28th @ A’s
by avsfan4ever33 on Mar 1, 2010 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
Unfortunately, no. It does not have radio or television coverage from either team.
The only way to follow will be through MLB Gameday, and that won’t be too useful, because during ST, gameday doesn’t even record pitches.
by Greg Stanwood on Mar 1, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
I would suggest going to Arizona.
Seems the best way to follow the game and enjoy the warm weather.
Is it Opening Day yet??? See you at Coors.
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Greg Reynolds with a broken arm?
Probably not, but are you kidding me. He’s got to be one of the unluckiest players I’ve seen in a while. Then again, he wasn’t using a screen.
From that article:
Footnotes
For those pining for updates on the intrasquad game, the Rockies are running late. The game isn’t expected to start until 1:15 p.m.
Does that mean us?
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It does! Somebody loves us!
I’m off to choir, but will check back in in 2 hours to find out which pitching battalion is gunning for a perfect game.
We really need to get Greg an appointment with a witch doctor or something...
…to reverse this curse.
At this rate he’ll make the bullpen in two years, only to be attacked by a plague of locusts while warming up to enter a game.
We'll need to sacrifice a player who's never injured
to appease the Baseball Gods and get them to back off of Greg.
Any ideas?
You don't sacrifice Alan Johnson to the gods
He sacrifices them for us.
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
duh
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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2010 1:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Paul Lo Duca, our firstbaseman of the future?
EY2 in left is kind of interesting. Really wish we could watch some of the game.
Quick article posted by Patrick Saunders
Denver’s best sports venue? It’s Coors
Mainly pointing it out because of his trivia question, which was something I hadn’t realized before:
Believe it or not, only three National League ballparks have been in existence longer than Coors Field. Can you name them?It’s amazing how it seems like only yesterday that Coors was being built and LoDo was being revitalized. How time flies!
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
Wrigley, Chavez, LandShark or whatever the hell it's called anymore
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
Sun Life Stadium.
Get it right.
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
That's later this year
when Sun Life breaks their contract.
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I used to get it mixed up when it was Joe Robbie stadium
because the Dolphins had a punter named Reggie Roby, and I kept thinking “They named the stadium after the punter?”
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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 1, 2010 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
we should rename wRAA/VORP to VOOQ
Value over Omar Quintanilla.
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You'd think MLB would have announced its broadcast schedule, you know, THE DAY BEFORE SPRING TRAINING STARTED.
Seriously, the first game of the spring is played tomorrow (Braves and Mets), yet it, and every day after, is still blank in terms of media coverage.
Seems MLB is still lagging behind
the NFL in coverage. Progress was made with MLB network, now they need to be better about filling it with chewy baseball goodness!
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by ShadowPenguin on Mar 1, 2010 3:32 PM MST up reply actions
Explain to me..
How I can watch fat d-linemen at the NFL combine who will be working at BurgerWorld next month…and meanwhile the mlb can’t show a Rockies intrasquad game? WTH?
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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2010 8:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
paste it
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 1, 2010 4:41 PM MST up reply actions
Here's the link It doesn't format correctly here, so you'll have to C & P
http://photos.denverpost.com/photogalleries/rockiesimages/#num=content-1914804&id=album-97369
by Greg Stanwood on Mar 1, 2010 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
o_O
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by ShadowPenguin on Mar 1, 2010 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
I can't quite figure out what all he is wearing.
It’s like they just threw random crap at him and told him it all had to be on him somehow.
What I do for those
is print screen, then paste it into Paint, adjust the edges so it’s just the picture, then upload it to Photobucket.
I can haz NL West title?
Yes, I'm doing too many other things to do a prntscrn chop job.
But if you’re up for it, go for it!
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Renck
has a report on the game.
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Renck posted a bit of a summary.
Here’s the long and short of it:
- Amazing OF catch by Frey.
- HR by Rosario.
- Deduno had a great day, including striking out Stewart.
- Nicasio did poorly, and injured his finger.
- Phillips had an AB with several foul balls, protecting the plate, which turned into a hit.
- Young isn’t ready for LF.
- Gomez has a great throwing arm.
- Roe looked good.
- Friederich was pushing himself too hard.
I didn’t see any sort of score, though.
by Greg Stanwood on Mar 1, 2010 5:46 PM MST up reply actions
nice line by Renck on EY2
he isn’t fast. he’s sudden.
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
Hehe. First ST games tomorrow.
THe Rockies, of course, don’t play until Thursday, but I’m still excited!
Clap clap. clap clap clap,clap clap clap clap
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Wow. He posts the comment, and 33 minutes later...
we comment within seconds of each other.
Tulo Chant Sense, possibly?
..........wow. That's humiliating.
Good think I don’t need basic addition to pass Differential Equations, I guess.
TU LO!!!
TULO = 2010 MVP!
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LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Mar 1, 2010 7:54 PM MST up reply actions
Best chant in all of sports
Anyone know how it started?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2010 8:04 PM MST up reply actions
What I know
is that it started out as the traditional “let’s go” cheer, but during late 2007 fans started substituting “Tulo” when he was at bat. Natural, given the similarity and the hivemind thing. Best as I can recall (and someone with a better memory should please chime in), during the magical “21 Days” period, they stopped playing the clapping part for everyone but Tulo, because it had become so associated with him.
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That's what I figured but it just seemed too easy
It’s interesting how a few trend setters yelling “Tulo” instead of “let’s go” can change what everyone does at a Rockies game.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2010 9:42 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks for putting up that Hammel pic Andrew
It is one of my favorites.
I loved making it.
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