Troy Tulowitzki: The Change
Today's Counting Rocks is gonna be a lot of just that: number vomit. But I think everyone will appreciate it because we'll be talking about everybody's favorite shortstop, Omar Qu Troy Tulowitzki.
Now there's a lot to look at here, stuff that we know, stuff that we don't know, things that we may not have recognized as the season wore on. My goal here is to shed a little light on areas where Tulo has grown and areas where he could still stand to improve.
Now there are only 2 areas I can really address for Tulowitzki, given the nature of this column: his offense, and his defense. Now, because I want to leave you all on the more exciting note, I'll start with his defense, because it's not all that exciting. It is more controversial, however. Also, if I end up writing way too much about fielding, we might have to stretch this into two articles.
Let's begin.
Now as per usual, I'm going to cite fielding metrics. If you're not a fan already, you might just want to skip this week's installment. I myself will admit that I'm not a giant fan of defensive metrics (especially in terms of quantifying fielding), there's a lot missing still, but at the very least, they can display trends, so they're worth discussing.
So for starters, let's go with an easy positive. The double play.
After 2007, we thought we'd never see a DP combination like Kazuo Matusi and Tulo. Well, thank our front office for not giving up on Clint Barmes, because offense aside, we didn't miss a step when he took over the ol' 4 spot.
Anyhow, numbers. Sorting the Rockies' UZR metrics by their Double Play range, Tulo and Barmes are both in the black, and they lead the team in that area. Which makes perfect sense, because the 6-4-3/4-6-3 is obviously the most common DP, and Ubaldo Jimenez, Jason Marquis, and Aaron Cook just kept serving up ground balls for those two to convert into two quick outs. It's obviously biased in that regard, but Tulo was worth 1.1 runs above average and Barmes 0.7 runs. Interestingly enough, Barmes was worth an additional 0.3 runs in his 108 innings at SS.
Moving on. Join past the jump and we'll look at the rest of Tulo's statistical picture.
Fielding percentage, the classic fielding stat, showed Tulo at .986, missing his 2007 number by .001. UZR tells us that his soft hands were worth another 2.6 runs above average, which is just another nice cherry to put on top of the Tulo Sundae.
Before we go much farther, let's talk about 2007 in the field really quickly here. Tulowitzki was DISGUSTINGLY good at SS. We all saw it, we were blown away by that kid's ferocity. Talking with other bloggers/internet people with no real connection to the Rockies, I've read that Tulo's 2007 was kind of the standard for an excellent fielding season, in this day and age of fielding metrics. While Omar Vizquel and Tony Pena Jr. posted better season (as far as UZR goes), people recognized Tulo as an elite-level glove.
In 2007, according to Fangraphs, Tulo was worth 7 runs in just range alone, 5.8 runs as far as his error rate goes, and 2.1 runs on the double play. The Hardball Times rated Tulo as a .861 RZR fielder with 87 out-of-zone plays. That's 11 more than Jack Wilson, notorious gloveman at the shortest of stops. Sean Smith (of CHONE fame) and his Total Runs metric rated Tulo as being 19.7 runs above average. Baseball Prospectus' FRAA (Fielding Runs Above Average) put him at 36 runs above average. 36. That's unreal.
Oh, and that .987 FP%? Led the majors.
Wow. We certainly knew that we had a gem on our hands going forward.
So let's pretend 2008 never happened and move on to 2009. How elite is Tulo?
Well, there's some good news and bad news. As we saw above, his FP% is still great, the DP is still awesome, and he's still snapping Helton's glove on the 6-3. But what about the rest?
Well, this is where it gets a little dicey. According to UZR, Tulo's range dropped from that 7 run figure to -4.8. Yes, 4.8 runs BELOW average. Overall, Tulo's fielding was worth -1.2 runs. Out of qualifying shortstops, that put Tulo at 13th.
But then again, that's just UZR. We don't like UZR, right? We know better, right? They're just wrong, right?
Well, let's check the other metrics.
Based on just RZR, Tulo was a .800 SS, 16th out of 22. He made 42 out of zone plays, which is 1 less than Nationals SS Christian Guzman made in 300 fewer innings.
THT? Balderdash, right?
Baseball Prospectus puts him at 2 runs above average. That's getting better, right?
Well, Total Runs (available on Baseball Reference) put Tulo's 2009 at 14.6 runs, 3rd in the majors.
Yeah, we can all get on board that!
It's tough to say. Part of me wants to say that they're all bunk, that they don't know what's up, that our eyes, that the other fielders KNOW that Tulo is still an elite shortstop, while the numbers say he's anywhere from sub-par to magnificent. There's also a lot of bias in play there.
Part of these metrics is how they're actually formulated. RZR and UZR are attempting to rate a fielder based on what you'd expect their zone of coverage to be, and then further rewarding as they venture out of said zone to make spectacular plays. FRAA and TotalZone (now, correct me if I'm mistaken on this) use more play-by-play data, crediting runs to the fielders who make the plays. So while one is based on more "who did what", the other is far more subjective to the eye and evaluation of the scorekeeper. There's more to it than that, but again, unless I'm just hopelessly wrong, we can at least get an idea of what's going on with Tulo's fielding.
My concern isn't so much with what the overall numbers tell us, whether he's worth a win in the field alone or he's average or whatever. My concern is with the trends that UZR and RZR (OOZ) are showing me: Tulo may still have absolutely deft hands, is still a smart fielder, and still a leader on the field, but his range seems to have dropped off pretty powerfully since he tore his quad. While I'm willing to write off any and everything about 2008 as a growing year, as a maturing step, as injury plagued, 2009 should've showed us some strong steps in the right direction. Instead, it looks like it's on the downslope already.
So let's think about reasons why. What caused this decline in fielding range? Well, maybe some of it came from that maturation process, based on the fact that Tulo got his big shiny new contract (and Maserati) and perhaps he thought he could coast, and got himself into some bad habits. Maybe his 2009 fielding took a dip because he opted to focus on his bat (yeah, we're gonna have to get to that next week). I just can't believe that he got lazy.
People on the inside (or at least close to the team) don't believe that Tulo's really down for the count. Troy Renck of the Denver Post sees Tulowitzki's 2009 in the field as being reminiscent of 2007, citing good range to the left and great range to the right. This more or less follows up with what we're seeing, too.
So, I guess it's kind of hard to pinpoint something that may cause this statistical decline. Is it real? Is it just the perception of those gathering the data? So what if the individual numbers don't match up? Why are they so different than what we're observing? Is it really that big of a deal?
Well, there's two big things to take into consideration, both from opposite ends. First, the Rockies just posted the lowest team ERA in Rockies history. Second, the Rockies were below average as far as DPs turned would tell us this season. Take those as you will.
So, conclusions? Well, it'd be sad to really say that Tulo's on the fielding decline, it just doesn't make sense. But I'd posit that once Tulo balances his offensive game, his new role as a Team Leader, and general awesomeitude out, his fielding will spring back to where we know it should be. But for now, there's apparently room for our boy to improve... or rebound... or however we want to phrase it, if only to shut the metrics up.
Join us next week as get really excited at how well Tulo batted in 2009.
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by fantasyfencing on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 AM MDT reply actions
Well...
I think that one thing that can somewhat interfere with stats is the players around the SS. The 3B and 2B. Stewart has better range than Atkins did, and I have read that Tulo said he knows what Stewart can get to so it doesn’t have him ranging as far or as much. Same with Barmes. They are both good players defensively. So is it possible that by surrounding Tulo with upgrades is actually decreasing his own stats? Atkins to Stewart and Matsui to Barmes? Sure Matsui was fast but I think Barmes is an upgrade there defensively, maybe not huge but an upgrade nonetheless.
Tulo’s FP% is identical to 2007 in 2009. .001 is meaningless for the most part. And just watching Tulo in 2009…I didn’t see any decline really. Nothing that I could percieve with my eyes watching the plays.
Let’s look at another stat. Total Chances. In 2007 he had 834. In 2009 he had 657. That’s 21% fewer plays he was involved in. Part of this is probably because our pitching was so much better as mentioned. I know this isn’t a “should have” type stat but you can’t imagine he didn’t take part in 21% less plays due only to some fielding decline – some of that is pitching and the 2B/3B – but it’s not simple to break this down into anything accurate. Just interesting to look at.
I can’t find a stat for DP’s attempted, or possible. Sometimes though the opportunity technically exists, it’s nearly impossible to turn one. Running on contact, speed, etc. But this would be something interesting to look at.
by RoxFan1701 on Mar 17, 2010 11:31 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
probably have to break it out by fielder's choices and stuff like that
but thanks for the commentary, this is good stuff. Rec’d
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 17, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Being surrounded by better talent might explain Tulos decline..
But over the past two years I’ve seen fewer jaw dropping plays from Tulo. He’s not ranging to either side as far as we were used to seeing him in 07. Compared to 07 Tulo has fewer assists, dp’s, and po’s.
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by Charlie77 on Mar 17, 2010 12:01 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Also fewer innings played.
But is 07 really typical? That season was atypical for so many things.
I don’t think anyone is looking at 08. That has injuries and was a big maturing season for Tulo.
2008 was Tulo's best Rzr year..
He had nearly the same amount of po’s as last year (190/215) in 400 fewer innings.
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by Charlie77 on Mar 17, 2010 12:19 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
That makes sense
I remember a few plays in 2007 where Tulo got to the ball behind where the 2B was positioned prior to the play and he made a play to first. Same thing behind 3B area. Fast forward to last season and he is still physically there to try to make a play, but Stewart and Barmes have fielded the ball.
And the jaw dropping awesome play that I remember from 2009 where Tulo threw out a runner from behind 3B happened in September when Atkins was playing. So this theory matches what my belief is.
That and I really do think that Barmes is an average SS playing 2B where Matsui could never play as more than a replacement level SS even if he was put in a utility role. He just does not seem to get the read on the ball like Barmes.
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You can’t forget his crazy jumping catch against the Cubbies :)
What about a SS’s range UP? haha
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Yeah, this makes a lot of sense
If the rest of your infielders are better, then you have less space which you can cover yourself. Those ones deep in the hole, Stewie is able to get it, whereas Atkins wouldn’t and we’d rely on Tulo and his cannon arm to make the out.
I’m curious to see the upgrade in ratings from Atkins to Stewart, and from Matsui to Barmes. I basically see defensive ratings as a zero sum system. Say there’s 100 “defense points” for an infield. In 2007, Tulo probably earned like 40 of those points, with 20 each to Atkins, Matsui, and Helton. But as Stewie and Barmes came in, the skill is equalized, and they each earn 25 points instead.
I’d say it’s a good thing when our infield as a whole is good enough to diminish their personal ratings.
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by ShadowPenguin on Mar 17, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Definitely good.
When being good is a “problem” :)
Though I wouldn’t take any of these “points” away from Helton – maybe 30/30/20/20 if you want to look at it that way. Helton saves errors like crazy. That alone is worth a lot. IMO. No his range certainly isn’t like Tulo, but he’s at 1B. Very different playing there.
Helton makes Tulo and Barmes better than they otherwise would be without him, becuase he turns errors into assists.
So looking at the easy stats here what I've discovered.
The entire infield made less plays last year then in 2007. Some of the following might help
Atkins 07 154 games played 2.26 chances/game
compared to
Atkins 09 78 GP 1.75 C/G
Stewart 09 121 GP 1.86 C/G
(by the way I’m only looking at GP at position so in this case 3rd) And granted there is a slight carryover from the games where they both played 3rd and got a GP but split the chances but it’s still lower overall chances.
At 2B
Matsui had 5.05 chances/game almost a quarter of a chance higher then higher then his career average
Barmes in 09 had 4.79 chances per game.
So I don’t know that the argument that other’s making the play is what caused it. I’m more inclined to believe the decline in the number of GO’s might have more to do with the change in metrics. In 2007 the Rockies pitchers had 1913 GO’s in 2009 it went down to 1791. However the number of hits went down. So it wasn’t like the decrease in Ground outs was because of them getting through. There was just less ground balls in play, the difference is made up by the increase in K’s by the Rockies staff, which increased by 184 more then the GO’s went down 122. So I would argue that the decrease in Tulo’s fielding metrics is more a factor of better pitching then better fielders around him.
by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I wonder
how much of the drop in UZR for 2009 is due to having Stewart playing 3B instead of Atkins. If Tulo doesn’t have to range into the whole, and can shade towards 2B a little taking away more balls up the middle, it could appear that he’s lost a little range to his right.
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by rockieprogress on Mar 17, 2010 11:37 AM MDT reply actions
I wonder if..
07 set the map for his zone so large that he is making similar plays but now they’re ‘in’ his zone.
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by Charlie77 on Mar 17, 2010 12:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Is this the way it actually works?
If it is then that’s pretty rediculous because you are penalizing guys who had a great year the year before. You can’t keep expanding your zine every year.
Is the “zone” the same for everyone at that position or does it differ based on what each player has done in the past?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
zine zone
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 17, 2010 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
No it's not
although by “setting the curve” in 2007, he could have artificially increased the definition of “average” a small amount
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 AM MDT up reply actions
You briefly alluded to the quad injury.
Could that be a factor? How long does it take to recover from such an injury? I really don’t know anything about physiology, so I’m curious. I would guess that it’s the type of injury that can be fully recovered from, but it might take a while. It doesn’t seem like a back or knee injury where the damage never goes away.
the biggest problem
with coming back from a torn muscle is your head. You can fully recover from these injuries, but it takes a wile to recover mentally. Trusting the leg to be what it used to be, and not worrying about pushing to hard and injuring it…especially when so much of what he is doing is short intense bursts of speed – a hard bit of work for the quad area…
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by purplebleederandjelly on Mar 17, 2010 12:43 PM MDT reply actions
well if we just said "who cares about metrics" I wouldn't have a column
which might delight a number of rowbots…
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions
but... but... numbers!
These are fun columns to read.
3 out of 4 sounds so much better than 2 out of 3...
by realmenwearpurple on Mar 17, 2010 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions
We can never have enough number vomit.
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Agreed
I’m interested in how these numbers continue to shape up, because they’ll be the one thing which finally manages to banish the LOLCORZ effect. Numbers don’t lie, baseball writers do.
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by ShadowPenguin on Mar 17, 2010 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions
well whatever it's still lolcorz
we’re just using sinkerballers now
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 17, 2010 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
And a humidor,
And Todd Helton is our only “good” hitter.
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by Charlie77 on Mar 17, 2010 4:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The only thing
that might remotely prompt others to give the Rockies any respect is winning the World Series more than once. And even then, it might not help players with things like Gold Gloves.
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I think I read somewhere (and please corret me if I'm wrong)
that many of these defensive metrics need years of data to become reliable. In other words, just looking at one season’s worth of defensive data is not enough to tell you wether or not a player is a good defender. I’d imagine that if this is the case than the most simple solutuion to explain what is going on here is that Tulo is not as good as his numbers showed in 2007 but better than his numbers showed in 2009. This would still make him a very good defensive short stop as my eyes would like to tell me he is.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 17, 2010 1:37 PM MDT reply actions
UZR needs at least 3 years to be worthwhile
and year to year fluctuations are irrelevant in general. But any defensive metric that says Tulo is a below average defensively is doing something incorrectly (I believe).
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UZR also thinks Mark Teixeria is below average defensively
Even as a Yankee hater I can acknowledge that that is complete garbage.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 17, 2010 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Well fangraph still rates Tulo as the 4th best defensive Short Stop over the last three years
out of the 16 players who had enough innings to qualify. Consider that he was probably slightly better than that because that sample includes the 08 numbers and even UZR (which seems to dislike Tulo the most) says he’s really good.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 17, 2010 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Fair enough, most of the noise is eliminated by looking over at least three years
but what sets most people off is that it says Tulo’s defense cost the Rockies runs in 2009 essentially.
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I’m just trying to make sense of it. (I’m not saying that I think any system that dosen’t think Tulo’s the best is wrong, I do however believe, like you do that any system that says Tulo is costing the Rockies runs had a problem with it)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 17, 2010 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Tulo didn't add anything significant to the defense last year..
He was average at best.
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by Charlie77 on Mar 17, 2010 4:13 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure I could agree with that
There’s a lot of poor defensive shortstops out there. No way can I put Tulo in the bottom half.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 17, 2010 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions
UZR needs 3 years to try and establish a skill level
It’s not as if they didn’t earn the runs in their uzr
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by Andrew Martin on Mar 17, 2010 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
So trying to evaluate one season worth of UZR
would be like trying to evaluate a batter at the end of May (two months into the season)?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 17, 2010 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions
essentially, yes
The parallel to Tulo here us ironic
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup.
If a good hitter sucks the first two months of the season, he is really sucking and hurting the team, but over the larger sample you still know he’s actually good.
If a good fielder has a below average year, he is actually hurting his team in the field, but his actual ability over a larger sample is better than that.
It will be interesting to see
How Franklin Gutierrez and Tulo are rated in UZR next year. After ’07, Tulo was the best shortstop since Ozzie Smith (really; no one had had as many assists in a season as he did since Smith) and Gutierrez is now the best center fielder since Willie Mays. Both passed the “eye test”, both should have won Gold Gloves. I wonder if UZR will continue to love Gutierrez and resume loving Tulo. I think those two are the most interesting players to me in terms of figuring out how to accurately quantify fielding.
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by controlled_slide on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 PM MDT reply actions
As a general rule...
The big shortstops lose range over a shorter period of time. The up side is( as Cal Ripken illustrated for so long) is smart positioning and a quick first step can mask a lack of range.
I really don’t think Tulo has lost very much. On the other hand; maybe he is our 1b of the future.

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