Scouting the Dodgers' offseason and Spring Training battles
With full rosters reporting to Spring Training, I figured I probably out to finally get my butt on the proverbial playing field again. Today, I'll run through all the personnel comings and goings of the back-to-back NL West Champion Los Angeles Dodgers.
In With the New, Out With the Old
Los Angeles is the second largest TV market in the United States, making up nearly 5% of the United States. Contrary to the benefits that figure to come from that, Ned Colletti worked this season as if he were operating the Florida Marlins.
Zero Dodgers were offered arbitration. The most any player will be paid in 2010 of those earning a new contract or extension (non-arbitration-forced) is Vicente Padilla, at $4.05million. That's barely half what Huston Street will make this season, and Padilla's salary would cover Jamie McCourt's expenses for her eight houses only until the last day of the regular season.
Therein lies the rub. Whether the organization wants to admit it or not, the McCourt's divorce has severely hamstrung the team's assets. It's awfully difficult to make positive change in the offseason if you have no change to throw at anyone. Here's a quick run-down of notable players leaving the predominant 25-man roster and those who were brought in (2010 WAR projections from CHONE):
| Player | 2009 WAR | Player | 2010 WAR |
| Orlando Hudson | 2.0 | Jamey Carroll | 1.3 |
| Mark Loretta | -0.1 | Alfredo Amezaga | 0.8 |
| Juan Castro | 0.0 | Brian Giles | 0.3 |
| Juan Pierre | 2.1 | Reed Johnson | 0.4 |
| Randy Wolf | 3.0 | Vicente Padilla | 1.8 |
| Guillermo Mota | -0.1 |
Assuming instrinsic progression negates regression precisely, the Dodgers downgraded a little more than three wins in this cursory overly-simplistic glance. After winning the division by three games. And there's certainly a case to be made that the Dodgers will experience more regression in 2010 than progression, or that projected playing time for the bench is unrealistic. Okay, so I admit there will also be far more moving parts and increased roles for internal players, but that would be no fun to look at.
Mainstays
In large part, Ned Colletti kept his division champion roster intact. The spring is the time to battle for position on the roster for the upcoming season, but these fifteen players can take it easy and know they will return to the same role they had last season:
Rotation: Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, Hiroki Kuroda
Bullpen: Jonathan Broxton, Ramon Troncoso, Hong-Chih Kuo, George Sherrill
Infield: James Loney, Rafael Furcal, Casey Blake, Russell Martin
Outfield: Manny Ramirez, Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier
Bench: Brad Ausmus
Additionally, recently signed Reed Johnson will the the fourth outfielder and Vicente Padilla will rejoin the rotation that he made seven starts in last year. Provided his leg heals from a shotgun wound.
After the jump, I'll go a little into the Spring Training battles.
Spring Battles
Two positions-in-question are of chief interest at Camelback Ranch this spring - second base and fifth starter.
Second Base: Ned Colletti declined to offer arbitration to Orlando Hudson, forfeiting potential compensatory draft picks along with one of his hottest hitters out of the gate in 2009. Ronnie Belliard, Jamey Carroll, Nick Green and Alfredo Amezega all received (dirt cheap) contracts this offseason, though none are clear favorites for the starting position.
It seems to me the FO might be secretly rooting for Belliard to remain above 209 pounds so they can void his contract, thereby allowing the internal eternal prospect Blake DeWitt to win the starting job. After that, Carroll could fill in as the utility infielder. If Belliard stops mistaking Slim Jims for Slim Fast and wins the job, DeWitt will head back to AAA for yet again, more seasoning. Carroll has an outside chance at the starting role, while Green and Amezaga would need injuries to those ahead of them, and probably more.
Fifth Starter: Eric Stults started ten games in 2009, more than any other candidate Joe Torre has to fill out his rotation. As with any fifth starter battle, one must pay attention to candidates without options. Both Stults and kunckleballer Charlie Haeger are out of options.
Scott Elbert has the potential to be a strong fifth starter, as does James McDonald. Josh Lindblom and Jeff Weaver are not candidates, according to Joe Torre, but Rule 5 pick Carlos Monasterios, Russ Ortiz, Ramon Ortiz and Josh Towers have a "legitimate chance." I can't see Haeger getting the nod over a lefty with more upside and experience in Stults, and the knuckler probably doesn't have much trade value, so he will probably be pushed through waivers. Lindblom and Monasterios probably find themselves in AAA; at least one of McDonald, Elbert and Weaver will be the bullpen, and all those remaining will be on call as the potential sixth starter. My guess is Stults wins the role, given his experience, talent and lack of options.
After the two above slots are filled, the rest of the roster can fill in:
Bench: Reed Johnson is cemented in as Juan Pierre's replacement and the team's fourth starter. NRI Doug Mientkiewicz figured to be the lone left-handed bench player, but the signing of Brian Giles puts M-alphabet's roster spot in question.
From my conversations with TrueBlueLA's Phil Gurnee, both Giles and Mientkiewicz are gimps, and whoever is most healthy will likely get the LH pinch-hitting job, with little to no starts expected. Jamey Carroll will likely be on the bench as a utility infielder, with other bench buddy option depending on whether Belliard or DeWitt is the starter.
- If DeWitt wins the starting role, Belliard will be on the bench with Jamey Carroll as Furcal's lone insurance at short.
- If Belliard is starting, Nick Green, Alfredo Amezaga or Chin-Lung Hu would get the final bench shot. Apparently TBLA is rooting for Amezaga.
Brad Ausmus pushes A.J Ellis out of the backup catcher role, meaning LA will have the same backup catcher for consecutive seasons for the first time in eight years.
Bullpen: I see two and a half positions open in the bullpen. The "half" position is Ronald Belisario's job. The sophomore had a phenomenal rookie season, posting a 2.04 ERA and 3.51 FIP in almost 71 IP 2009. However, after having visa issues in Venezuela and missing the start of Spring Training for the second straight year, GM Ned Colletti proclaimed Belisario's job up for grabs.
"At this point in his life, [Belisario] needs to worry about it more than we do," said Colletti. "We've got a lot of people here who can pitch."
It might be for the best, after he, Troncoso and Broxton combined for north of 200 games last season. If Colletti softens at all and the right-hander gets to camp with a visa, Belisario will get the job. If not, Cory Wade is a decent bet to take his spot. Elbert, Weaver, McDonald, Lindblom and Stults could fill in two bullpen jobs, with Phil Gurnee projecting Weaver and McDonald to be the winners.
Four parting thoughts
- Joe Torre really leaned on Broxton, Belisario and Troncoso last year. Over 80% of Troncoso and Belisario's career MLB innings came in 2009. Their resiliency and ability to match last year's production has to be seriously in question. If either falters, which is likely, can Hong-Chi Kuo and/or George Sherrill pick up the slack?
- Joe Torre also tends to underplay his bench. His top four bench players combined for 857 PA's in 2009, compared to 1341 for the top four Rockies. Keep that in mind when projecting the bench players.
- Russell Martin has gained 20 pounds over the offseason in an attempt to put up with his workload. It may help prevent the inevitable sapping of his power.
- Manny Ramirez said this season would be his last in Los Angeles. The next day, he said:
"I'll play three more (years) for this team and two more in Japan. Put that in there. I want to see myself on ESPN again."
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I wouldn’t say we are rooting for Amezaga. If anything, we are rooting for Hu to take the backup SS job, if Carroll doesn’t end up there. But given the preference for veterans on the bench, we prefer Amezaga over Green and Berroa.
i suppose i should have said "Phil"
In an email, he said “hopefully amezaga us healthy enough to win the job”. Fwiw
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 2, 2010 1:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
The dodgers are still the team to beat
but we need to take advantage of this McCourt situation this year. Its pretty obvious to me that the Dodgers could have made some moves this offseason that would have put them as prohibitive favorites in the division, but we got a break. And there’s no telling when the ownership situation will get it together and start fixing their (few) problems. They are still the favorites, but this is a huge window. Last year was a disgrace, we need to start beating this team.
by Teekalong on Mar 2, 2010 12:59 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Totally Agree
In my opinion key number 2 for the Rockies is playing better against the entire NL West and especially against the Dodgers.
Key #1 is, as always with any team in any sport, staying healthy.
What if the hokey pokey is what it is all about after all????
I'm not sure I would consider tham the favorites
It’s really close but I honestly think the Rockies are a little better.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 2, 2010 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
Not necessarily favorites
Rather the team to beat, which is to say that they won last year, so they’re the defending champs. At least I think that’s what Teekalong was saying.
by controlled_slide on Mar 2, 2010 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
I understand
How far would you take this though. Would you apply it to a team like the Angels?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 2, 2010 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
A certain unnamed scout would
Seattle had the best offseason, but I still think the Angels are the class of the AL West.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 2, 2010 8:22 PM MST up reply actions
Scout X is living in the past
He picked everything (divisions and wild cards) to be the same as last year. That never happens.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 2, 2010 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
Agree
The Angels have won 89 games or more the last 6 years. Pretty tough to bet against that.
Hating Cubs fans since 1908
I read that article
It was really dumb. Not only his playoff picks, which were lazy, but also his analysis of Cain. Wins and ERA don’t tell the whole story, especially with Cain. He’s not even close to the same league as Lincecum.
by controlled_slide on Mar 2, 2010 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
+1
Especially the last line, “…we need to start beating this team”
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
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Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
wow, I was way off for taking the over on a line of 2 posts of 6 being from raygu
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must be away from his desk
although I’m surprised he doesn’t have an auto-post waiting for anytime the word Dodgers shows up in Purple Row. “Wait, stop! I’ll be back to my desk in a minute to defend Manny to the death. I’m not kidding stop!”
His comments have been very solid lately,
He’s stopped attacking off topic as much while defending the Dodgers, and he’s brought up a couple of salient points that have added to recent articles. I’m happy he posts here as long as that’s the case.
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Rox Girl….there’s a couple reasons why I come here. One-the Rockies are the team I worry about the most in the West, and two-I like your articles Rox. I learn alot from your articles. Plus, you have some loyal posters here.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Mar 4, 2010 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
2b/5th starter/5th OFer
I know this article was posted a few days ago, but, I think Dewitt wins the 2B job, and Tony Jackson agrees. Love the fact that he is over on ESPN now. I missed him after he got let go at the LA Daily News.
He also said that the Dodgers think James McDonald could be the 5th starter all season. He says they “want” him to win the 5th starter job. I have to agree.
And LA signed Garret Anderson as theirm 5th OFer and lefty bat off the bench. Love the move. Sounds like Giles isn;t healthy enough to be the lefty bat on the bench.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Mar 4, 2010 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
i agree on all points
But I really don’t understand “wanting” McDonald to be the fifth starter, as that would force a move with two pitchers who are out of options. I can see Haeger passing through waivers, but not Stults
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 4, 2010 9:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
not sure
I guess they feel McDonald has the better track record in the minors, and he just needs to adjust to the majors??
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Mar 5, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
Manny will be Manny
will that do? lol….
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Mar 4, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
HA!!!
Good one….I;ve been busy writing for Fake Teams and SB Nation’s fantasy baseball site. That and adding 4 new writers in the last few weeks has kept me busy.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Mar 4, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
Just out of curiosity what do you think Manny would get on an IQ test?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 2, 2010 6:23 PM MST reply actions
i think a myspace ad once told me he got a 90
And asked me to beat it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 2, 2010 6:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I'll take the under :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 2, 2010 6:26 PM MST up reply actions
Not on you
On Manny getting under a 90.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 2, 2010 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
negative evelenty billion
Ubaldomania.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Mar 2, 2010 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
What does
one do with eight houses?
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by Russ Oates on Mar 2, 2010 10:40 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Sell 7?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 2, 2010 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
The divorce just should apply that logic to starting pitchers, no?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
Apparently...maintain them
and spent a lot of money doing it.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
travel all over the place
And avoid the classic black light hotel bedspread horror
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 3, 2010 9:00 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Dodgers roster analysis
not too bad, here’s some L.A.-centric yet not overblown (read: fair) Dodgers 2010 roster analysis: http://yallkiltit.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/dodgerblast-spring-training-roster-analysis/




















