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The Rockies return for their home opener having lost their first series of the season, and until that goose egg in the title to this post becomes a number larger than the one preceding it, we can expect at least a few normally level heads to grow pessimistic. It's just the nature of forecasting: in the absence of sunlight, many will expect unceasing thunderstorms.

So,

This is the kind of baseball that got Clint Hurdle fired.

Troy Renck declares to start his recap of yesterday's five to four loss to the Brewers, which in a grand sense, the sense that losing baseball is the kind of baseball that will get any manager fired, is true, but in reality what got Clint Hurdle fired was a slow process that saw him lose the respect of his players and finally lose the support of the front office. It wasn't the failure to hit with RISP, it wasn't shoddy defense, it was a lack of control, a lack of leadership that got Hurdle fired.

The Rockies have gotten to the point that they are by taking a long view in almost all phases of the game, so while some fans and pundits start fretting that more April showers are imminent, the team itself doesn't seem inclined to panic just because it's getting it's head a little wet right now. This means no dumping Randy Flores, no panic buy of Jarrod Washburn, not even getting ahead of themselves with Ian Stewart's hot start. Everything is what it is right now: a single road series loss is in the books where the Rockies were outscored by a grand total of one run over three games to a pretty decent team, with over 50 series left to play.

Other links:

MLB.com has a video interview with GM Dan O'Dowd. O'Dowd discusses the 2010 team.

Marc Hulet at FanGraphs compares the Rockies and Rays homegrown qualities. Of course, in the comments, everybody else wants to prove that their favorite teams are just as good at it. The real way that Tampa and Colorado stand out in this regard is that they rely internally for the bulk of their wins over replacement, whereas most of those other teams (excluding the Twins, who really are similar) use most of their internally developed players as bench supplements to some heavy lifting external acquisitions.

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RISP fail makes me a sad panda :(

My favorite part is how we’re already adding to the “losses by one run” -o-meter. How many did it take last season til we won one?

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by fantasyfencing on Apr 8, 2010 7:20 AM MDT reply actions  

we started 0-8 in one run games

Unless I counted wrong. First win came May 10 against Florida. But the first two games were two run games, and one game does not a trend make

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 8, 2010 7:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Everything is going to be fine...

This is a good team. This is not a fluke team. It’s one series. And, I don’t care what anybody else says – the Brewers are a very decent (if not downright good) team. Losing to them in their home ballpark at the beginning of the season – when there’s always more fans at the ballpark and the excitement is always at a higher level – is nothing to be ashamed of or worried about.

The boys will take it out on the Padres this weekend, no doubt.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 8, 2010 7:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Absolutely.

The team had some issues but plenty of bright spots and it’s a long season. Bring on San Diego.

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by phishbate on Apr 8, 2010 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hear what you're saying but I would like to see us take it out on some very decent (if not downright good) teams

as well as hammering the Padres and Astros of the world.

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by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

It will happen,

in due time.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 8, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Off topic rant

I’m very annoyed with the start of the season for a different reason.

I couldn’t watch the game because the Brewers are blacked out here (Iowa). Yeah, I’m paying $200 for MLB Extra Innings, and I can’t watch them play. We have 6 teams blacked out here. The Cubs, Chi Sox, and Cardinals make some sense, and you can make arguments for the Twins. The Brewers and Royals make no sense at all.

A friend of mine in Boston gets exactly 1 team blacked out – the Red Sox, which are readily available on his regional sports channel.

I can sort of understand blacking out the game if it’s on ESPN2 or something, but this is on a package that I’m paying $200 for, on top on my normal DirecTV bill. Just give me the &*&% games, MLB.

/end of rant

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by kosmo99 on Apr 8, 2010 7:45 AM MDT reply actions  

Oh

I did figure out that I could watch the games in postage-stamp size on the MLB Mix channel (which shows 8 games on the screen at once). Better than nothing, but still annoying.

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by kosmo99 on Apr 8, 2010 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is there an Official Purple Row Jinx Policy?

Because jinxes were debated at length in the gameday thread yesterday, to the point that many posters who expressed confidence that the team would do well in an inning were decried for jinxing the team.

I mean, I get that baseball is a sport of superstition. I know that players have their traditions and lucky routines and whatnot. But we can’t honestly believe that anything we say on here affects the teams performance during a game, right?

by Shoemaker on Apr 8, 2010 7:59 AM MDT reply actions  

Game threads are their own monster.

Reason goes out the window, sometimes policy too, so I don’t know if making an official ruling would have much effect on the beasts. I feel your pain, though.

by Rox Girl on Apr 8, 2010 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

When your team fails, it seems to be human nature to search for some reason other than the play of the team.

Don’t know if it’s that we can’t (won’t ?) admit that it’s the play of our team but fans always seem to look for some supernatural reason why the team didn’t live up to expectations.

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by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

We are jinxing the team just by talking about the jinx.

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by Charlie77 on Apr 8, 2010 12:25 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA! you win the thread

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

way to go Charlie. I try to go all philosophical and you have to jinx my comment about jinxes.

(by the way, this was supposed to be a humorous response in case it didn’t come across that way :).

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by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Listen...

don’t do ANYTHING to jinx the ballclub. After the win on Opening Day, I posted a status update saying that it was the first of many Rockies victories this season. I have since changed that, and have now stated the Rox will go 17-145 this season.

Also, I will not be wearing any articles of Rockies clothing for the next few days. 3 to 4 items at once is too much (as that’s what I sported for the first three days of the season), so I’m going to go to the opposite end of the spectrum for the upcoming series.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS WILL DETERMINE HOW THE CLUB PERFORMS.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 8, 2010 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

So, what you're saying is...

I should do the exact opposite of whatever I was doing for the past few days, since whatever I was doing was clearly jinxing the Rockies?

Hey, I’m good with that. Any excuse not to go to class.

by Shoemaker on Apr 8, 2010 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is correct.

I’m a nutcase.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 8, 2010 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

you're hardly alone

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

This would make a good T-shirt. .

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by Charlie77 on Apr 8, 2010 1:13 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

purple row haiku - awesome!

This thread has probably been done before I’m sure…

A ball hit
the outfielder runs
batter safe at third

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by WalkInRight on Apr 8, 2010 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

sienfeld: If every decision I make is wrong,

the opposite of every decision obviously has to the correct one.

I tried this concept when I was Sports betting…Turns out…I’m a complete F-up who’s opposite decisions are somehow also wrong. Only way to stop the luck. stop betting…

Therefor, only way to stop jinxing the Rox when watching is to not think about the Jinx itself, If its entered your brain, its too late!!!!

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 8, 2010 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

word

its an interesting Psych experiment really, to differentiate between the two for both fans and players.

But here’s an example of a silly jinx, jumping over chaulk lines,

Angering baseball gods: Bad CarGo looping the bat and home run trotting like he was Ricky Henderson after his dong in game one, and what has happened since?

Innocent super: writing initials on your equipment or on person

Anger baseball gods: Hype your team and your players so much everyone around you wishes ill on said team or players because you wont shut the hell up and let a long season and great players play them selves out. (not a shot at anyone, I have red sox and yankee fans in my friends list)

but its all good. Post how u want, think how you want, and root how you like, its all part of the wonderful game that is baseball.

No hard feelings

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 8, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

We are in agreement

^5

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not wearing any Rox gear?!

I didn’t think that showing your support by wearing gear would jinx them.
This is the begining of the season! I always wear Rockies stuff for like a week straight!

This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Apr 8, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

But if you have unlucky gear, probably should donate it or something.

This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Apr 8, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

I should

I have a Tulo jersey shirt that my ex gave me during Rocktober.

That shirt was responsible for the loss to Brandon Webb in game 160.

Free to a good home.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

soaked in bad juju

no thanks

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

burn it.

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

with the number of people who need clothing, I can't do that

I need to goodwill it thuogh.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

that

is the good thing to do.

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Give it to the Dodgers.

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by Charlie77 on Apr 8, 2010 12:02 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rox Gear Jinxes

I wore my jersey under my work shirt on Opening Day. I haven’t worn it since. Should I just deal with the extra layer to bring about the luck?

by Yokel on Apr 8, 2010 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

honestly, don't worry about it

yesterday’s game thread was shockingly pessimistic for the first series of the season.

Say what you want to say and, as long as there are no personal attacks, you’ll be just fine. I think everyone forgot the point of game threads was to recreate the feeling of being in the ballpark with other fans of your team across the world. It’s supposed to be an enjoyable experience.

I consider it a one time fluke due to heightened early season expectations. Don’t let it bother you.

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Game threads are a bit like a craps table

There are superstitions that a lot of people stick to. If you go up to a craps table and start using the word “seven,” or pick up you winnings late and have the dice hit your hand, people aren’t going to like that.

Logically, does it make a difference in the outcome? No. But if you know people are going to get annoyed, and you do it anyway it can breed a lot of negative feelings.

So even if you don’t believe in jinxes, there are people who do, or at least say they do “just in case.” So why breed the negativity?

Well beat the drum and hold the phone, the sun came out today.

by frightened inmate #2 on Apr 8, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

jinxes are real.

no, I don’t scientifically believe this, but believing in jinxes makes sports like 5-10 times more fun for me

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is pretty much me.

My logical, inner mind knows there’s nothing to them. But I freely and purposefully let the rest of me give in, because it’s just an intrinsic part of sports to me.

by holly96 on Apr 8, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

This, so very much this

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by ShadowPenguin on Apr 8, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm not planning on posting jinx-like statements to be directly antagonistic.

Not at all.

I just think fans should be able to post things in gamethreads like “We usually hit pretty well against Hoffman. We’ll come back against him!” without people accusing them of “jinxing” the team.

by Shoemaker on Apr 8, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

The jinx rule should only apply to no-hitters.

Since the odds of a Rockie pitcher throwing a no-hitter are fairly low, the Rockies will never be jinxed.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

disagree

citing “HELTON BATS LIKE .600 AGAINST HOFFMAN” is just BEGGING for a popout

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

but that's right and good

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Honestly as the one who started this whole ball of wax

I don’t really care either way. I don’t feel like that was a jinxing comment since both KOA guys were talking about it a lot about 2 minutes after I was. I do agree about more prominent things like no hitters, but we have to be careful how we approach it. I have been posting here a lot over the years and it just felt like yesterdays game thread was one of the more agitating ones there has been. If a die hard baseball and rockies fan like myself can make that mistake, then people who are just beinging to like baseball or the rox may do the same thing and we don’t want to turn them off.

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by RockiesDave on Apr 8, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

I took as mostly kidding around

if anyone really thinks that a certain comment jinxes our team they seriously over estimate their place in the universe in my mind.

by BringItHome on Apr 8, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

That’s a good way to put it. I joke with the GF. If the team does something good when she walks in the room or whatever, I tell her she has to do it again. Now if I can just align a beer, a grand slam and that which will get me a pop-up by the mods if I refer to it.

by Salty on Apr 8, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not overly concerned

While i didn’t completely agree with the lineup, it wasn’t the problem. After watching a few other games it appeared that many teams are starting poorly. If we win the series with the Pads, like we should, and finish April 15-8/14-9 no worries.

Now 9-14 might get a different response.

by Roxfan24 on Apr 8, 2010 8:17 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm okay with anything .500 or better.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 8, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

.500 is adequatulant

several games above .500 would make me happy…

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by WalkInRight on Apr 8, 2010 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

NO, the sky is falling

the Giants are 3-0, their hitters have posted a 124 OPS+, and their pitching is so amazing its posted a 334 ERA+ (I didn’t actually realize this was possible). WE are DOOOMED!

by moomacher on Apr 8, 2010 8:26 AM MDT reply actions  

Welp. I'm convinced. Pack it in, everybody.

We gave it our all, but the Giants are clearly just too good.

See you all next season?

by Shoemaker on Apr 8, 2010 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Renteria: NL MVP 2010

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by phishbate on Apr 8, 2010 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can I place bets on this?

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

If you want to bet that he'll win it,

I’ll gladly take your money. :)

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by phishbate on Apr 8, 2010 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

He was 5 for 5 yesterday!

You have to be a superstar for that to happen. Pujols doesn’t even go 5 for 5…

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

or did you forget that one game makes your entire season

isn’t that the lesson from yesterday? ;)

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Heh, too true.

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by phishbate on Apr 8, 2010 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

the gianta' era is essentially 117% better than league average

Especially with all the offensive booms early on, that’s not too surprising. Sweeping a series on the road is nothing to sneeze at, but the Astros without Berkman are pretty terrible.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 8, 2010 8:34 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for this, RG
Everything is what it is right now: a single road series loss is in the books where the Rockies were outscored by a grand total of one run over three games to a pretty decent team, with over 50 series left to play.

I tried to say it all day yesterday, got frustrated and left. It’s good to hear a voice of reason confirm it.

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 8:43 AM MDT reply actions  

The game was frustrating, no doubt.

But I doubt we do THAT badly with RISP again very often. I was as annoyed as anybody about it, but the fact that we went 1-12 in those situations tells me that we win that type of game more often than we lose it.

Honestly, I was pretty excited at how good Corpas and Betancourt looked-and against a very good hitting team, too. Fingers crossed that two scoreless outings in a row boosts Manny’s confidence for the season.

by Shoemaker on Apr 8, 2010 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

I rewatched Corpas' outing last night after dinner

and came away completely impressed. SSS and all, it was really exciting to see.

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree. I know it was just one inning in the thrid game of the season,

but his slider had great movement on it, and he was attacking the strike zone against some quality hitters.

If he can do that more often, I definitely won’t want him converted to long relief.

by Shoemaker on Apr 8, 2010 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dang it.

I was going to do the same thing when I got home since I had recorded the game, but I completely forgot and already deleted it. Darn.

by holly96 on Apr 8, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Some observations from yesterdays game

1- the B team (a good B team at that) is not good enough to play poorly and win against good teams….(obvious)
2- Olivo, is not going to take Ianetta’s spot any time soon, other than the Dong that a good outfielder woulda taken away, the GIDP and K with runners in scoring position, with less than 2 outs is not getting the job done, and his play behind the plate looked to be rather shabby for this amateur talent reviewer

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 8, 2010 9:19 AM MDT reply actions  

shoot half of my post was eaten and I have to work, so I'll leave it at half statement

but I had some example of poor pitch calls, I didn’t like and some mix ups that resulted in either PB or WP.

But its one game for Oliva, but doesn’t look to be the answer and I continue to hope Chris is.

And mora looked awful and I think if he does not get regular playing time he will not be worth a scratch and I dont see a justification to get Barmey outta there….yet. I’m sure he will soon

And Tulo looks to be too upright in stance, he is getting under way too many balls, pop ups and when that happens, sit him in fantasy cuz he’s not seeing the ball well.

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 8, 2010 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dude, that was Olivo's first game.

Let him calm down. Look at what CDI’s done.. Olivo hit a freaking home run. He’s done more than CDI in one game! So think about what you’re saying.

by CentralCaliRox on Apr 8, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

this is retarded

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 9, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

RMN poo-pooed somewhat the RISP issues yesterday.

Considering RISPy problem were our bane at the end of last season and in the playoffs, and in the first 2 games we have the same problem. I worry that we don’t have a solution for this.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 9:54 AM MDT reply actions  

There is no solution...only the true talent level of our hitters balancing out over the course of a full season.

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by Jeff Aberle on Apr 8, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

ok, what is the solution?

What do we need to do to suddenly make RISP issues go away?

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

more clutchiness?

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm being serious

if we’re going to bury the team for having RISP issues (despite us being well above average with RISP), how do we solve the problem? Do we trade the entire roster for only guys who hit like mad with RISP? Who gets on base for them?

I would rather have a team left on base than have a lot of outs and 8th inning solo shots.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I actually

agree with you on this one. Yesterday was an anomoly – yes we left runners on and didn’t get hits when we needed them. It’s one game and it will come back around. If this same problem keeps happening and our average drops to a horrible level with RISP than I would worry…

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

but even then, if you're worried

how does the team solve the problem? It’s plausible to have an entire lineup go 2-5 and score like 1 run. Would you hate the lineup for all batting .400? I doubt it.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think

the solution is getting guys to relax and not try to smash the ball in those situations – sometimes I feel like our guys tend to want to hit dingerz with RISP when behind in ballgames when all we need is a good sacfly.

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Its a concern for the whole team. And its not a new problem.

We have the same basic team. I don’t know the answer.

Have Dex and CarGo hit 1 and 2 respectively to start? Assign JDLR’s psychologist to figure out why we are having such trouble? I’m not suggesting that we are going to never win a game again, but if we lose games by 1 run as often as we did last year we are going to have problems. Especially with pitching as good as the Giants and the Dbacks and the Phillies. We can’t afford to leave 2-3 men on base every other inning. I’m not being Chicken Little. I fully expected to see a major improvement in this area over last year and straight out of the gate, its a problem

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

old habits die hard unfortunately

and it takes constant vigilance(!) to not revert. Some players can translate their hard work in the offseason (like Stew so far, knock knock) into game time but sometimes the bad habit is just so ingrained (I’m speaking from experience here:) you find yourself doing it even though the little voice in your head (and the coach) is yelling at you (i.e. Tulo swinging at first pitch, Barmes popup, watching third strikes, etc)…

To be honest, the rox were not looking great in this area in Spring training either (many of their wins were courtesy of the minor leaguers) so it seems we’re still a work in progress in this area. Here’s hoping the regular season routine and a few home games under their belts will allow the players to relax and successfully make their adjustments sooner than later (and Baylor and Tracy are hoping too I imagine!)

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by WalkInRight on Apr 8, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think your point is right on

Obviously its the reason we lost yesterday, but that’s the nature of this beast. Obviously if we could go out and grab ourselves some players who were better at scoring runs than our current crew…well…we would. But our guys are good.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

obviously obviously obviously

its a good thing all my posts are filled with such certainty.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Completely, 100% agreed

Batting average w/ RISP is one of the worst stats ever. Getting people on base is the key…everything after that is solely based on chance.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 8, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Do you really mean that? What I'm hearing you say is

“After you get people on base, it doesn’t matter if Todd Helton or Omar Quintanilla bats next”.

I think you’re giving “chance” way to big a role in this deal.

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by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pedal, you ninja'd me!

I was just typing a similar post.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

so I'm assuming "ninja'd" means beating someone to a similar post?

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by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes, this is my understanding

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

of course not

Over a large sample risp hitting is very close to overall hitting league wide, maybe S little lower. There may be some with legitimate ice in their veins that handle risp situations better than normal and some that always freeze up, but in general, over a fill season, most teams perform in risp situations close to their overall stats. Every team has 1-for-15 risp games

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 8, 2010 11:53 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

agreed

There’s generally far less pressure on a batter with the bases empty — whereas ability and ‘clutchiness’ are key with runners in scoring position.

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by WalkInRight on Apr 8, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh god

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

I did say this partially tongue in cheek

y’know. ;)

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by WalkInRight on Apr 8, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Many many broken sarcasm meters around here

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by ShadowPenguin on Apr 8, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

air quotes fail :(

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by WalkInRight on Apr 8, 2010 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

which parts are tongue in cheek?

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

see?

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

What's worse?

Losing a close series with a playoff caliber team, or going 0-2 against the Pirates? I’d say the latter is more of a concern than our situation, and equally as irrelevant in terms of the entire season.

Also, first post from my iPad. Wow I love this thing.

by roxintober on Apr 8, 2010 10:01 AM MDT reply actions  

Ha!

Sky is definitely falling for Dodgerfan. My buddy who is a diehard is having conniptions over the Ortiz/Ortiz bullpen after spending all offseason talking up the strength of their pen. Whatever misgivings I’ve had about our pen were definitely allayed by watching the end of that LA/Pit last night.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

How is the iPad?

Do you have any issues holding and typing on it? It looks awkward to me.

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by Charlie77 on Apr 8, 2010 12:09 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's quite smooth actually.

The landscape typing is actually very good and then word processing program works as good as any out there. This thing is the future.

by roxintober on Apr 8, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've got a Kindle

Obviously, the web browser’s not as advanced, and doesn’t have a lot of memory. But the real problem is it doesn’t have cookies setup so I can log in here. Boo. I dig it for everything else, though. I call it my Hitchiker’s Guide.

by Yokel on Apr 8, 2010 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

btw, its Opening Day for all four of our minor league teams tonight

Wes Musick, Juan Nicasio and Christian Friedrich will be starting tonight, though I don’t know that the Sky Sox have announed theirs yet. Hopefully Chacin.

If you’re missing Rockies baseball, you can juggle four minor league GameDays :)

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Baseball America is having a chat session..

For the minor leagues opening day. Bob Callis tweeted about it yesterday.

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by Charlie77 on Apr 8, 2010 12:12 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

What's annoying is the whining of the bandwagon fans (already):

“Oh gosh, how could the Rockies just drop this series!? I thought they were supposed to be a good team!”
Good grief, they lost a series on the road, big deal, I’ve made my peace with it.

It’s baseball, people, they are going to lose sometimes- deal with it!

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by prettyinpurple on Apr 8, 2010 10:27 AM MDT reply actions  

i have an announcement

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 8, 2010 10:33 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Probably a good career move...

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Muzia

you are the best at this.

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

My issue is more with Jim Tracy than with the players on the team. Has been for some time now.

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by Jeff Aberle on Apr 8, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

seconded

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

i agree

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

So were there issues with him last year when the team went 70-40 or whatever it was?

I honestly liked his approach until the playoffs when he got micro-managerey.

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by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's the thing.

He kept everything quite steady through August. Now of course, some guys started to wear down and he had to find days of rest, and some guys got no rest. But when September rolled around, he had more toys to play with and he did play with them. His tinkering during the playoffs bothered me greatly.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, there weren't issues with him last year in the regular season.

Because he just defined the positions (Barmes at 2B, Stew at 3B, calling up CarGo) and let the best players play.

It worked ridiculously well.

But in yesterday’s game, at least, he was doing the opposite of that. Sitting Helton and Barmes for the 3rd game of the season with Cook pitching seems like needless micromanaging. And if he keeps messing with the lineup like this, I’ll have a definite problem with him.

by Shoemaker on Apr 8, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol! I only learned about ninja'ing yesterday.

I didn’t even know I was doing it! Its these Cat-like reflexes. :)

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

That the Rockies signed Giambi to rest Helton and the Rockies mean it. Helton will probably rest most travel days, is my guess.

I don’t like resting Helton, it’s not what I’m accustomed to anyways.

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by TripleT-Rox on Apr 8, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, I've had issues with him since September when he tinkered (to negative effect) with the team dynamics.

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by Jeff Aberle on Apr 8, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

you mean

when he managed the team to a 18-9 record (20-11 counting the short Oct reg season sked) in the heat of a pennant race with several key pitcher and player injuries, nearly catching the Dodgers despite a huge lead (and every national media source assuming we’d choke to Atl or SF)? That’s what you are talking about? That 64% winning percentage was a “negative effect”? Hmmm… I wish we could rock that kind of winning percentage for a full year, see what might happen then…

Some of you guys kill me, with the lengths you go to come up with strawmen to disguise the one real criticism you have of the guy.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Strawmen? I don't think that's what anyone has done here.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

The strawmen comment wasn't directed towards you

as I’m pretty sure you know what I’m talking about and you are not in that boat. But I really don’t get the whole “September disaster” nonsense. The results speak for themselves.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I actually am I part of the September crowd

He tinkered dramatically and we were fortunate in September. However, he continued the trend in the playoffs and that didn’t turn out so well. And yes, there were many reasons why we lost in the playoffs, but the lineup changes were definitely questionable.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why were we fortunate?

Come on, if you’re going to defend the position, let’s hear some actual reasons why Tracy deserves no credit for the excellent record and terrific results of September. I’ve read a lot about “tinkering” and whatnot, I’ve yet to see one actual attempt at analysis of how we could have done better.

We lost in the playoffs to an exceptional Phillies team because Street blew a save…had that not happened, we’d have been 2-2 with a good chance to win it. Surely you aren’t among those arguing Beimel should have pitched to Howard (which would have been the ultimate in tinkering)?

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

watch me tick Teekalong off...

It should have been JDLR pitching to Howard ala Schilling and Johnson in 2001. In an elimination game, that’s where I don’t mind tinkering because you have to pull out all the stops.

by Rox Girl on Apr 8, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

OK, extra credit for bizarrely unique suggestion

that would have turned some heads. And maybe worked, who knows.

For the record though, I did mention that whole situation/debate to a friend who played in MLB for many years, and he was incredulous that such a move would have even been considered. “No chance” was his response — he honestly thought i was making it up. So blaming Tracy for going with Street, to me, is ridiculous. I know this is a different topic than where we are, but thought I’d put it out there.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

of course, that's my selective memory working against me there,

I think De La Rosa was unavailable for the whole series because of his injury. Given that, sticking with Street was probably the right call. I’d definitely prefer him to Beimel in that situation.

In the end I think Tracy deserves as much credit for September 2009 as Hurdle did for September 2007. In both cases, I believe it was mostly the players that brought us the victories, but both managers at the very least didn’t botch things and made some right decisions along the way.

by Rox Girl on Apr 8, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

There you go

2nd paragraph says it all, if a bit more grudgingly than I would say it.

I’m not quite as far over as you on the “managers have minimal impact” argument, but I do think that Tracy is being (has been?) unfairly set up as a fall guy here, when the success of this season will be determined between the lines by guys that are more than capable of getting it done.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can't speak for everyone here

but I don’t think anyone is attempting to label Tracy as a fall guy for anything. I thought he did a fantastic job last year getting the team on track again. His tinkering towards the end of the year left me skittish. And out of the shoot this year Tracy is moving things around, which puzzles me considering he did so much to stabilize the lineup early on.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Beimel pitching to Howard is like choosing to pitch to David Eckstein instead of Albert Pujols...

the matchup difference (and advantage) is so pronounced that it was the right move in that situation. Tracy didn’t make it.

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by Jeff Aberle on Apr 8, 2010 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

As I pointed out

it is a move that NO MANAGER IN BASEBALL would have made. None. And the kind of move that, if it backfired, would have had him on the (literal) street. It is simply ridiculous and, more directly, completely detached from reality, to hold this against Tracy.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm allowed at least one irrational grudge. This is mine when it comes to the Rockies...

the way that managers (any of them, really) manage the game. I don’t like the way that anybody does it—with the exception of Earl Weaver. That guy was awesome.

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by Jeff Aberle on Apr 8, 2010 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

What concerns me about Tracy, and gets me upset about him

is that he spent the 4 months post-Hurdle as the Manager who Plays his Starters, he Sticks with his Guys, and we won like crazy. Suddenly he’s starting Atkins all the time, overplaying handedness splits, and whoah, where did this come from? This isn’t the Jim Tracy we all came to love after Hurdle was let go!

Well, no, it wasn’t that Tracy, because that Tracy seemed to be trying to lay low in the wake of a long-run manager being fired. The real Tracy was the one who managed the Dodgers and Pirates and micromanaged like a madman.

I’ll hold off on real judgments until we get farther into the season, but if this bizarre “B Team” thing is a regular occurrence, I’m going to be upset.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Those are reasonably fair points

I agree he did seem to get a little platoon happy down the stretch, but I’m not sure it was unwarranted overall. And, as I’ve argued, the Sept results were stellar and thus should not be criticized out of hand just because he was taking a different approach, particularly when it was in part necessitated by injuries.

As with the B team, I also think it was very odd, but seeing Torre and LaRussa pull it out today makes it seem less of an issue than we all were making it. We shall see. It seems clear to me that Giambi is going to get a lot of run this year.

Whatever, I find it so funny that I’m somehow stepping up to be resident Tracy-defender when I was vocally opposed to him getting the job and I cannot stand his persona in interviews. But I do like winning, and he’s done a lot of that in the past year, so here I am.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I give him full credit for what the players have given him credit for

and I like him in that he’s more of a boss for these guys than a developmental coach like Hurdle was.

My point is just that I want to see the best players playing as much as possible, and only subbing when they need it, and I just feel this is an alarming sign. But as I said, I’ll hold serious concern until later.

Oh and Barmes rocks left handers, I still don’t know what was up with sitting him.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

I’m annoyed with the facebook people who are complaining about everything already…it’s three games in – one series – not the end of the season!

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

facebook fans

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by TripleT-Rox on Apr 8, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

:)

I like this.

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have to respectfully disagree on this point

Just because someone doesn’t want to follow join a blog doesn’t mean they aren’t real fans. And just because some of us aren’t too thrilled with the outcomes of these games, and see some flaws in the team, doesn’t mean we’ve given up or think we stink. I think we know how much talent is on this team, and we just want them to EXECUTE!

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

their VODPC is about -5

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

harsh

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is the article that Redhawk would be in here

Telling us that you can’t win the pennant in April, but you can lose it, that we’re no better than an 80 win team, and that Ianetta should go to Tulsa.

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by Rox R Champs on Apr 8, 2010 10:47 AM MDT reply actions  

I miss Redhawk

arguably he deserved the ban…but fewer posters with unique (even if often ridiculous) perspective/viewpoints don’t make this better. The guy was a true blue fan, at least.

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oldfoagie is my candidate for Jason Heyward ROTY award

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Aren't I a rookie until my signup date?

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

too many at bats

besides, you won it last year

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol...dammit

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

IAWTC

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 8, 2010 11:01 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

ITA

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by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought you all would get a kick out of this

email just received from Dodgerfan. Something in the water in AZ during ST?

“These first two games (with a day off in between) must have been extremely exhausting for the Dodgers. Their lineup today is:

1. Furcal – SS
2. Reed Johnson – LF
3. Matt Kemp – CF
4. James Loney – 1B
5. Ronnie Belliard – 3B
6. Garrett Andrerson – RF
7. Jamey Carroll – 2B
8. Brad Ausmus -C
9. Billingsley

Are you freakin’ kidding me? It’s game #3. I guess the prospect of being swept by the Pirates to open the season is just too big of an opportunity to pass. I mean, if you want to rest Martin, fine. But do guys like Blake and Manny really need a rest on the same day that Martin is out and Ethier is sitting with a bum ankle?"

by Teekalong on Apr 8, 2010 10:53 AM MDT reply actions  

it makes my soul hurt

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 8, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

brb adjusting fantasy lineup

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

it seems Tracy isn't alone in this

Torre does it with the Dodgers, then LaRussa with the Cardinals.

Ludwick, Molina, and Freese were all given the day off against the Reds.

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think it may be the nature of managing.

Stengel was notorious for platooning guys. IIRC about the only one who didn’t get that treatment was Mantle. Berra even got shifted to LF more than you would imagine.

So I think that most managers just can’t leave well enough alone.

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by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Macha

played the BU catcher and put Edmonds in right.

by Salty on Apr 8, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

edmonds started Opening Day too....

He just might be on the good end of a platoon

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 8, 2010 11:57 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Supposedly not a platoon, but…

by Salty on Apr 8, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

BU catcher blocked a lot more pitches than the starter.

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by Charlie77 on Apr 8, 2010 12:16 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think he did, they were both pretty bad. Everybody likes to hate on Kendall, but he was great at that.

by Salty on Apr 8, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

wanted to see a 4-2 week

so hopefully we sweep the Pads although i see them only winning 2 of 3

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 8, 2010 11:21 AM MDT reply actions  

It's a long season

Don’t count them out yet (even with their shoddy defense in this series)

If you look around baseball the Red Sox lost their 1st series (at home to the Yanks no less), the Dodgers lost their 1st series as did the other LA team.

We are not going to win all road series. Hopefully panic hasn’t set in in the clubhouse, there are still a lot of good things this team still has going. Especially if we sweep the Padres this weekend!

GOOO!

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by TripleT-Rox on Apr 8, 2010 11:26 AM MDT reply actions  

Yanks and Phillies both lost their first series last year

Look how that turned out.

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by free7694 on Apr 8, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha

this made me smile…What are the rules if a batter asks for time – doesnt’ get it, but steps out of the box anyway?

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Generally

If the pitcher throws a pitch and the batter is out of the box, the ump will call it a strike regardless of location.

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by ShadowPenguin on Apr 8, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

too

bad this didn’t happen..especially to Jeter…that would have been awesome.

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was just reading that.

I think he’ll get criticized for daring to blast the players (especially Yanks and Sox, gasp!) and some will say umps should try not to blow calls first.

But I also think he’s completely right. And it sounds like something that umps have probably privately been complaining about for awhile, but nothing has changed. The umps are clearly trying to prod these teams to be faster, but they don’t seem to be complying.

by holly96 on Apr 8, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

What's wrong

w/ some of us being disappointed in the outcome of this 1st series. I think those of us not happy w/ the way the Rox have looked are getting reprimanded for it, and I don’t understand that. Its not as if we are saying the season is over after 1 series, we were just disappointed in the level of play and we are entitled to think so. The defense was shotty, which is surprising w/ the talent on this team, and was happening throughout ST, which is a little scary. I think the bullpen could be a problem for awhile, hope I’m wrong on that, but we are missing some key parts.

I still really love the Rox chances this year and love our players, but expectations have been an issue of the past, and I think the pen is a legit concern. I also think we are giving the Brewers a little too much credit. They are an average team, and they were at home, so its not completely shameful. However, they don’t have the offense they once had, and we should have done more against Davis. I see the Brewers as a .500 team this year.

I think there is a great chance we play well against SD, but there are a few legit concerns out there.

Beat Ohio St!

by smokinRox on Apr 8, 2010 11:57 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Can you explain how the Brewers "don't have the offense they once had"?

Braun and Fielder are entering their primes, Escobar and Weeks are studs. Are they missing Jason Kendall that much?

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind the Brewers were a .500 club last year while having the worst rotation in the league, according to WAR

they made some very underrated improvements this year and should be viable competition for the Cards in the Central

Not completely shameful? The Brewers should have won 2 out of 3.

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hart is not the same player

and I disagree that Escobar is a stud, I think Hardy was a better hitter. Escobar may be a better hitter when all is said and done, but I don’t think he is now. Zaun is way past his prime and not the hitter Kendall was IMO. I like Braun and Fielder a lot, and I think Weeks may finally reach his potential this year, and I would say McGehee is a slightly above average hitting 3B, but their lineup is not scary throughout, at least IMO. I think the pitching staff is also an average one. Wolf is not a true #2, and if Davis is your #3 I think that says something.

Again, the Rox will lose series throughout the year that they shouldn’t, it happens to all teams, so no one is mailing in the season after this series. I do think the Rox should take 2 of 3 from the Brewers, even on the road. We are supposed to win the NL West and I think we all agree w/ that assesment, the Brewers are expected to finish, maybe 2nd or even 3rd in the NL Central, which I believe is a weaker division. I think we have the superior team and should take 2 of 3, so again, its disappointing.

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by smokinRox on Apr 8, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

I sincerely hope you didn't just call Jason Kendall a good hitter.

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by Muzia on Apr 8, 2010 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

He was more of a pesky hitter, and I'm not sure Zaun

is any better at this point in his career. I think you’re nitpicking 1 hitter, the point remains that this lineup is not nearly as good as the Rox, and overall they are not as good of a team, so we should win the series. Some of us are disappointed in what we saw on the field, I think we are allowed to be, and we are still considering ourselves fans of the team.

I firmly believe the offense will be fine, and I do think our D will turn it on soon, it will not be as sloppy as it was against the Brewers. There are some other concerns that I am not so sure about and we’ll see how they play out.

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by smokinRox on Apr 8, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think what I'm reprimanding you for,

and I’m okay with that word, because I am (not just you, of course, but all fans that are getting overly critical after one series) is that you’re off base.

First of all, a slightly over .500 NL team, and I think that the Brewers are in this category (you are most certainly underestimating them), because of the home field advantage will be even with a team of the Rockies caliber. Playing us to within one run over a three game series shows that this was the case, it was just a matter of who got lucky in the rubber match, they did, we did not.

Second, I think you’re projecting too much into one series, a teeny tiny sample. We learned nothing in this sample in Milwaukee. Even if we think we saw something to be concerning and even if turns out to be true, the fact remains that we can’t know anything for sure yet. It’s simply impossible to say if what we’re seeing is real or just some fluke because of the weather or bad chinese food or whatever. There’s just no way to know anything for certain just by watching one series.

Now if you’re basing your troubling conclusions off of one series and the whole of 2009, that’s another story, and I’m aware that there are probably some fans doing this. So my beef isn’t really with them.

Was the result in Milwaukee disappointing? Absolutely, I was as sad to watch the conclusion of yesterday’s game as any Rockies fan, but losing the series does nothing to change the talent level of the team and it really has little effect on the ceiling for this year, so it’s pointless to carry any individual loss or even series loss for very long. Now if we start grouping a bunch of them together, that’s another story, but there’s no reason to think that’s going to happen just yet.

by Rox Girl on Apr 8, 2010 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I guess

we can agree to disagree when it comes to the Brewers, and we really won’t know that until later in the season, but I don’t see them as any more than an 83 win team. I’m not impressed w/ the rotation or particularly the lineup. I think playing the Central may help a little, but I guess we’ll see.

As far as my concerns w/ the Rox, its not based on 1 series. Its based on what we saw in ST, and what we started to see towards the end of last year. I think Tracy overmanaged the team last year and he has started the season doing it again. This might be just an early season check to see what he has, and he may change his course later on, in which case thats great.

Injuries have also played a major role in my concerns. I know we are all acting as if Street, Francis, and Bucky willl be back very soon, and we have plenty of depth to make up for it, but I disagree on that. I think we have some minor leage starting pitching depth, but it doesn’t seem quite ready, and I’m not at all high on Smith. BTW, its not based on 1 start against Milwaukee, that start just confirmed my thoughts on him. I hope Smith’s mound demeanor and command make up for it and he proves me wrong, but I don’t see stuff to get outs. I think our pen is a little thin as well.

If all these guys come back soon, that will be great and hopefully we can hold the fort until then, but we still aren’t sure when they’ll be back. I’m not packing it in, and I still think the Rox have lots of talent, but I have some concerns as well. The first series backed some of my pre-season concerns, but the first 3 games were not the only reason I’m concerned.

Beat Ohio St!

by smokinRox on Apr 8, 2010 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

i think the point is

that making any judgments based on 3 games or even ST is way too shortsighted. Through the first 30 games of last season, you could make a lot of negative judgments based on pretty poor play. But we all know that they proved that they were more talented than they had played. And yes, through 3 games the Rockies have come up pretty short in some areas. But to take 3 games and pretend like you can gather any information from that is a little foolish. I’m guessing that you wouldn’t be the first to crown the Pittsburgh Pirates as a wild card contender despite taking 2 of 3 against the Dodgers, would you?

Baseball is a lot more about consistency than actual talent, I have come to find. The fact is that every team has a lot of talent. If you are in the major leagues, you are a pretty flipping great baseball player. And when you are that good, on any given night, you can go out and dominate. The difference between the very good teams, and say, the Nationals, is that the very good teams consistently perform at a high level. Every team has the ability to perform at a high level, but only a few consistently day in and day out perform to the best of their abilities. And even the best players have bad stretches. We all know that.

And we all know that this team has a heck of a lot of talent. It’s going to come down to whether they can consistently tap that talent enough to win a lot of games. Personally, I believe that they are good enough, and coached well enough to do so. If after a few months, they continue to consistently come up short, feel free to voice your disgust. I will be the first to join you. But until we get a large enough “sample size” to determine how often they play to their potential, we have to wait to make judgments. Because for every “bad sign” that you can point to, I can point to 3 or 4 “good signs.” But even those good things that are happening can’t cause me to get too excited because they could prove to be flukey (Manny Corpas? Please God, I hope not cuz he has looked very good).

So I think that is the point that us PR’ers are getting at. Don’t rush to judgments without waiting to see all the facts!

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by ZTC_87 on Apr 8, 2010 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

IAWTC

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

IAWTC

Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
PLAY BALL!!!

by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

huh? dang it I hate it when I miss the joke

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 8, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I Agree With This Comment

"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

You agree with missing the joke :)?

Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
PLAY BALL!!!

by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

argh..

really Cat…really?

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by hotdoglady on Apr 8, 2010 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

you fell into my sarchasm?

Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
PLAY BALL!!!

by SDcat09 on Apr 8, 2010 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

bah, I always think text acronyms are real important

I live in a military community. So my ears perk up, and then I find out what they mean and I am disapointed

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 8, 2010 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

IADWTC?

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

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