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Saturday Rockpile: Hammel injured (again), more Iannetta/second basemen trade chatter

RHP Jason Hammel Said Groin Injury Flared Up | Inside the Colorado Rockies
According to Tracy Ringolsby, Jason Hammel aggravated his groin injury last night and could wind up back on the DL, although Hammel thinks he can pitch hurt. We don't know too many details about this right now, but being the realist that I am, I don't think the Rockies will allow Hammel to pitch through the injury, so this could mean a few more weeks of Greg Smith. I really wish Jorge De La Rosa would come back already. Anyone else desperate/crazy enough to have the small thought in the back of their mind that the Rockies should just insert Christian Friedrich into the rotation instead of putting up with Smith for three to four more starts? No? Okay, sorry. Moving on...

Rockies on lookout for second baseman - SweetSpot Blog - ESPN
Rob Neyer's take on the Rockies' second base situation kind of mirrors mine. Why spend money or prospects to pick up guys that will offer no more than what Clint Barmes already has to offer? I understand Luis Castillo can get on base, and I understand that Kazuo Matsui was good a couple of years ago. But, they're both aging, and when you lump each of the three players' skill sets into a whole, Barmes is still probably a better, or in the worst case scenario, just as good of an option as the other two guys. I just don't think Barmes is THE guy that is holding this team down right now, though he is clearly the top scapegoat at this point.

Gammons On Martinez, Lowell, Iannetta: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
During an interview with The Big Show on WEEI (Boston), Peter Gammons noted that the Red Sox "do really love Chris Iannetta" and tried to acquire him in 2008. Although trade talks have faded, Gammons thinks a deal could still happen later this year even though it seems the Rockies' demands are greater than what the Sox want to give up. The Rox really need to hold their ground on this one.

A few more links after the jump...

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Matzek and Arenado join Asheville | Inside the Colorado Rockies
(Sorry for stealing the thunder from the Pebble Report.) Nolan Arenado made his 2010 debut last night with Asheville, and had a couple of hits and two runs batted in in the Tourists' victory. Meanwhile, Tyler Matzek has reported to Asheville as well, although it is not yet known when he will make his first start.

Twitter / Troy Renck, Rockies: Interesting to see Giambi in the two-hole...
I guess interesting is one word you could use for how I feel about Giambi in the two-hole. What are some other adjectives we could use? Also, I understand that Ryan Spilborghs needs some at-bats, but they should never, ever come at the expense of Seth Smith vs. a right-handed pitcher. Jim Tracy's lineup tinkering is getting pretty unnecessary. It has become apparent over the past year that the players on this team like stability, so Tracy REALLY needs to settle down and find consistency when filling out the lineup card (other than, in my opinion, the occasional Dex vs. LHP/Smith vs. RHP platoon).

Jason Giambi worth consideration in fantasy for the Colorado Rockies' weekend series at Kansas City - Fantasy Baseball - ESPN
Eric Karabell thinks that Jason Giambi is a viable fantasy option during interleague play (in leagues that allow daily moves, anyway) and notes that Giambino has three homers in 16 AB's against Zach Greinke. Still doesn't justify him batting second...

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Are friggin' kidding me?! Another injury...

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by SDcat09 on May 22, 2010 8:12 AM MDT reply actions  

So if we were to trade iannetta

That means, what? Olivo again in 2011 followed hopefully by a 23 year old Rosario in 2012? Seems a little risky.

by moomacher on May 22, 2010 9:00 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

No. We would trade Iannetta for Victor Martinez, right?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 22, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Anyone know the Red Sox farm system?

If they’re interested in Ianettta, and they have a fixture at 2B for a number of years (which they do), that’s an obvious matchup of needs. Although it would have to be a prospect with a clear separation in Major League potential from Nelson, Herrera, Q et al.

I think trading Ianetta would be a big mistake. But so is wasting him at AAA.

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by Maris6161 on May 22, 2010 9:40 AM MDT reply actions  

I've got no problem trading him if we get real value in return. But by the same token, I'm afraid that he will be overpriced the same way Atkins was.

And no one will want to enter into meaningful discussions because our demands are deemed as excessive.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on May 22, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

All of the Red Sox prospects

are massively overrated.

How’s Justin Masterson, “a future ace” according to Kurkjian, Olney, baseball America et al, working out for the Indians? (1 – 12, 6.11 ERA since arriving, so it’s not related to a lack of run support or anything.

That’s what you’re going to get if you trade Iannetta to Boston, a “super elite prospect” who ends up hitting .220-10-45-5.

I’ll pass, thx.

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by ES46NE10 on May 23, 2010 7:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think Tracy is in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

His options are:

1. Stick with a set lineup of basically under-performing players hoping that this will improve their play
 
or

2. Try to match pieces as best he can until someone shows they can be the proven offensive player(s) he needs.

If you stick with Barmes, Dex and Stewie day in and day out, you better hope they get it together sooner than later. If you try changing things up frequently, you better home something clicks. Otherwise, the second guessing is only going to get louder and more often.

Tracy’s in a no win situation here. There is going to be moaning no matter what he does until this team begins to play better.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on May 22, 2010 11:41 AM MDT reply actions  

Yes. As has been pointed out many times...

… if your team is struggling, the manager gets heat regardless.

by Greg Stanwood on May 22, 2010 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I posted this in a comment on a different post

but it looks to me like Tracy is having difficulty with so many left-handed bats.

Our best lineup might look something like
Cargo
Smith/Helton
Tulo
Hawpe
Stewart
Olivo
Helton/Smith
Barmes

However, he seems really reluctant to bat lefties together. I personally am starting to feel like we’re worried too much about RLRL matchups. A lot of our lefties have looked like they can handle left handed pitching pretty well (CarGo, Helton), be serviceable against lefties (Hawpe), or are poor but have flashed potential (Stewart).

This emphasis on having a more balanced lineup has resulted in people like Mora and Spilborghs getting starts – usually questionable starts.

I also wonder if this shuffling of the lineup, and this competition has impacted what Rox Girl touched upon yesterday with our shakey game-awareness. The lack of regular playing time or added pressure may force people to focus on making an immediate impact…

Just some theorizing…

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--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on May 22, 2010 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree that there has been way too much emphasis placed on match ups in all of baseball.

Both in construction of hitting lineups and use of pitchers. Good ballplayers make plays regardless of the “handedness” of the opposing pitcher or hitter. Just my opinion.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on May 22, 2010 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Of course, for today's game

he bats consecutive lefties at two points in the lineup. Maybe I’ll just shut up (siiiiiiike)

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on May 22, 2010 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

TOGB

I think you made Muzia cry…

. Anyone else desperate/crazy enough to have the small thought in the back of their mind that the Rockies should just insert Christian Friedrich into the rotation instead of putting up with Smith for three to four more starts? No? Okay, sorry. Moving on…

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by Hizilla on May 22, 2010 2:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Haha

He’ll be alright.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on May 22, 2010 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

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