Tuesday Rockpile: Fowler Up?, ??? Down, Baylor Out??
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 8:00 AM MDT
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PrintLate last night, Brent Briggeman of the Colorado Springs Gazette reported that the Rockies have called up Dexter Fowler. No corresponding move was reported.
"I got the message that he was going to be up" (Sky Sox manager) Cole said. "What move they're going to make, I don't know."
"I learned a lot down here," Fowler said. "Learned how to swing a little bit. I'll just go back there and try to contribute."
There is no denying Fowler has earned a trip out of the minors. In 124 PA, he is sporting a scalding .423 wOBA, including a 1.045 OPS as a left-handed batter and .931 OPS from the right side. For those concerned about his switch-hitting, he had a better strikeout and line drive rate from the left side as well, hitting both home runs that way for good measure.
Getting the call moments before the fourth game of a six-game road trip in California is atypical, perhaps suggesting he is arriving to replace an injured player. However, Brad Hawpe pinch-hit last night, the other three outfielders showed no ill effects as all hit home runs, and Troy Renck says Todd Helton is fine. He certainly won't be replacing Jonathan ten-game-hit-streak Herrera, and leaving Chris Nelson as the only logical (hard-luck) victim of the move.
The telecast relayed nothing of the news, and no Rockies beat writer or any other news source has apparently heard of the call-up as of 8am MDT. As David OhNo pointed out last night though, the Rockies face three consecutive left-handed pitchers (and four of five). This might be a good time to give Brad Hawpe some extra rest. You can bet Purple Row will be on this as soon as anything is reported.
UPDATE: Troy Renck has confirmed with Dexter Fowler's agent that Dex has been called up. There is still no news as to the corresponding move, but unless Todd Helton's back is far worse than he led on, it will almost certainly be optioning Chris Nelson back to Colorado Springs.
Links:
Offense saves Ubaldo at San Diego - The Denver Post
Thank goodness the offense woke up last night. Four home runs at PetCo? The Padres gave up 10 runs at home for the first time this season and fell to 2-5 against Colorado. One can hardly tell Ubaldo Jimenez had a poor outing by Renck's game wrap, but check the major league stats leaders. Ubaldo is no longer alone atop the ERA leaderboards, and checking the other traditional non-W/L stats, the other guy has a pretty compelling argument to start the All-Star Game and be a Cy Young front-runner.
Olivo's latest homer puts him on pace for Dominican record - The Denver Post
Miguel Olivo is needed 23 home runs to break the Dominican record for career home runs by a catcher, set by his second cousin Tony Pena.
What The Colorado Rockies Should Do | FanGraphs Baseball - Dave Cameron chimes in with his plan for the Rockies if he were Dan O'Dowd. It is a very fair assessment, worth the read, though nothing expands further than common Purple Row discussion.
Baylor is feeling skipped over in managerial mix - The Boston Globe
With the Rockies underperforming offense until the last seven days, many Rockies fans wondered if the club should give hitting coach Don Baylor his walking papers. It doesn't appear Dan O'Dowd will go in that direction, but Baylor might be gone anyway, if he had his way. He played for Baltimore for four seasons and says "that's where my heart is." It might be tough for him to get the Baltimore gig though: he was fired from his managerial position with the Cubs by current Oriloe president Andy McPhail.
CastroTurf: "Anthony Castrovince" The MLB blogger has heard that :C himself, Sal Fasano, is a finalist for Toronto's managerial job. Cito Gaston is expected to retire after the season. He is managing one of the Blue Jays' A-ball teams.
The starters for my minor league all-star team - The Hardball Times - Matt Hagen
Posted late last week, only one Rockies' farmhand appears, and he isn't even a PuRP.
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If Dex is coming back I want him in the lineup
That would seem to make Seth Smith the odd man out because of Spilborghs good play. I don’t have a problem with Spilly-Dex-Cargo outfield for a while. Give Hawpe a chance to fully heel so he can hopefully start to mash in the second half.
It’s hard to believe that anyone other than Nelson is going down. I was disappointed he didn’t get more playing time. I would have liked to see what he has… Oh well, Herrera will inevitably cool down and maybe then Nelson can come back up a play a little before Tulo gets back.
"My eyes! The goggles do nothing!" - Rainier Wolfcastle
especially with all the lefty pitchers we are facing shortly
Smith will be relegated to PH duties.
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He seems to flourish in that role anyway
All the overweight relievers think they can come in and start blowing fastballs by everyone and Seth just sits and waits for them so he can crush them.
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by BittenAnkles on Jun 29, 2010 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions
well he went down to get better at hitting righties, so it wouldn't make any sense to play him against lefties.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions
But he's always been very good at hitting lefties
wait, are you asking me to explain Tracy’s handling of Dexter Fowler?
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I do believe that this
would be impossible…
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Eastasia.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Seth Smith is more than a bench player
What else does he have to do to prove it? Don’t we need his productivity more than whatever Dex is bringing to the table?
by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 29, 2010 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
exactly
Smith is one of our best offensive players and yet everyone always relegates him to be just a pinch hitter
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions
?
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
No.
I memory-holed him. There never was Jeff Aberle.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
you are awesome
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Why not do a retro active DL of Hawpe?
Bruised ribs can be tricky to come back from
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
He can get time at 1B on the rehab
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
We could do that, but not since he pinch-hit last night
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions
You too?
This is the best? Oh for shame
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Keith Law
top 25 minor league prospects (Insider)
14. Tyler Matzek, LHP, Colorado. Walk rate has been high, but the fastball-curve combo is plus and he does it very easy. Previous ranking: No. 18
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 8:42 AM MDT reply actions
Who becomes hitting coach if Baylor leaves?
Baylor to Baltimore seems like a good fit. He has the experience of building an organization from the bottom up, and won 88 games with a mediocre Cubs team (Ron Coomer starting at third). With him as manager, having been an MVP, they wouldn’t need to worry as much about “veteran presence” and they could do what the Rockies did in ‘04-’06: let the kids play.
Todd Helton
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Giambi?
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The Bino has a lot of skills that you’d want in a hitter, but I’m not sure his patience/pull approach applies well to the hitting profile of this team. Dex, Cargo, Helton, Tulo, Herrera, etc all need to use more than just one third of the field to be successful.
At least he would ruin Fowler's bunting
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Bunting would be outlawed.
I believe Giambi once compared it to bouncing in beer pong. This is not the face of bunting:
dumb
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see, I wasn't really trying to figure out what was happening in that picture
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let's hope
that this never ever happens.
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they don't call me
sea of bitterness for nothing Muzia.
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who are you calling nothing muzia?
I take offense. Or maybe even special teams
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it is way too early for this
going for coffee brb.
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I'm a pro now, I was up at 4am writing the midnight oil
(so I was 4 hours late, sue me.)
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...You don't live in Pagosa Springs do you...
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
How is that going?
I was up at 4 – but for completely different reasons.
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I woke up at 4:15
because there is a bird that crhirps loudly every morning right out side the window…I love birds…but man, I’ve thought of a BB gun…..
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got home from the Meetup last night at around 12:30
about to pass out, then I see a text saying Fowler had been called up.
FFFFFFFFFFF
now I have to write a damn article when there is ZERO info available instead of sleeping, then wake up early enough to do the links for the blog first thing in the morning.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
it’s fun though.
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I got home the same time as you
pure silliness
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions
that's a lot of F's....
maybe you should spend more time at home prepared for call ups and such instead of out gallivanting around the town.
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I was networking
talked to a guy from The Sporting News and everything
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coolio
Let me know when SBNation needs a staff photographer….
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He was networking with sports journalism bigwigs
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Maybe the picture doesnt tell the whole story
but I think she’s getting her collarbone signed.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
not sexist at all
that girl is just plain stupid.
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both.
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Their both stupid
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*They're both stupid
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hee hee you used the wrong "they're" while calling someone stupid
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by Muzia on Jun 29, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
wow....nice Muzia....
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I'm still mad at you, by the way.
“Yard care” translates to 300+ comments?
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Why are you mad at me?
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you didn't show up!
we were having a great time with Russ and you MISSED IT
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I am a sad and disappoint. Seriously.
It’s tough for me because that was really the last night I had free for myself, before I go back. I just felt a responsibility to get my Mom’s lawn taken care of before watering. It’s important…
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You could have vengefully gotten back at that bird
by waking it up at midnight with the lawnmower
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
That's funny
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Also, if you recall, I said no promises...
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I know. But I was looking forward to finally getting to meet you!
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I know!!! Well, I'm moving back
so I imagine they’ll be other opportunities.
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you gonna be at the game on Friday?
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Thruveday
I think
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't have tickets, if that's what you are asking
I’ve never been to a Coors fireworks game :-(
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if I had a free ticket it would be yours
but alas I don’t. The only reason I’m going is a friend booked a suite for her 30th birthday – free ticket for Maria.
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Man, I completely forgot its July 4 games..
Hmmm…
/cat thinking about staying through July 4…….and cat realizing how stupid that would be…but not really caring at this point
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I'm going Friday!
with AtkinsandTuloFan, mkorpal and RoxNewbie
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions
You were on the patio.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I had to tell RMN his mountains weren't blue anymore!
not my fault!
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I did see something about discounted tickets
that have obstructed views of the fireworks…
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Talk about taking one for the team...
Between you selflessly notifying RMN and me drinking the warming beer…I just don’t know who to admire more!
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I only had to roleplay a window in a box
you had to drink warm Coors Light. You obviously win
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It was kind of like Sunday
Request of RN, then Matt joined, then RN invited AaTF….then we couldn’t find 4 tix under $60/ea for Saturday. Last minute deal
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Did you want someone to reminisce about Will with?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
1:5 odds she's got a tramp stamp
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by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
I'll put a dollar against that.
But I bet she has a Butterfly tattooed somewhere.
My name is synonym for win.
1:5 odds. If she don't have one, you get .20
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by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
No, it would be 1:5 odds
I mean, do you think there is any reasonable possibility that she doesn’t? She’s a rank favorite to do so.
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by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
That was why I was betting against it.
I think we got each other confused. Its 5:1 odds that she doesn’t have a stamp (or 1:5 odds that she does).
The bet I took would result in a profit if I win.
My name is synonym for win.
she gives butterflies a bad name
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No just stupid
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The girl, or putting the picture up there?
It’s definitely on the gratuitous side, but I love pictures of Giambi.
both
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Yeah that's what I meant...good for you
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It was just a picture
I didn’t mean offense by putting it up there. It just best captures what I’m pretty sure is Giambi’s philosophy on life: No Bunting.
I mean, I definitely would not want permanent marker on my chest, so I agree the girl is not bright.
the sad thing is
that girl totally went and got a tattoo of that autography
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I would allow Any rockie to sign my boobs
And I would not wash for weeks, not that that would be new
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Q agrees
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
trying to keep things light
Summer school is booooooooring
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
But moobs are different.
And I doubt any would anyway..
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he he
moobs.
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Well Giambi might...he seems wild enough
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and several Caribbean countries
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Funny, it looks remarkably like the one
Maria made for Giumby.
Maria, well done!
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that is the mustache
pic I used to sample for Giumby.
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This is when you can consider yourself a successful professional athlete
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Call me crazy, but could they DFA Stewart?
I mean he’s not been great. They could put Nelson or Mora at 3rd, Barmes SS, Herrera 2nd, Hawpe/Giambi/Helton 1B, CarGo/Smith LF, Dex CF, Spilly/CarGo RF
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I think
Stewart might have 1 option left, but I might be wrong too.
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Why though?
Stewie has been hitting well not terrible lately, maybe’s about to get hot.
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He's had some really terrible ABs and
he’s made some silly errors….
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he's 24 though
you have to expect growing pains. This isn’t like Fowler or Iannetta, where they can’t get playing time because someone else is hitting well in front of them. Stewart is our best option at 3B, we can’t afford to have him down in AAA, even if he is slumping.
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How is Mora doing compared to Stewart?
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So its a wash?
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Can they rely on Herrera to be as effective without going through similar dry patches?
You’re talking about a guy who has a .260 wOBA in 65 ABs, aided by a .352 BABIP, and has no track record of being able to put up Stewart’s best numbers.
Replacing Stewart with Mora, and using Herrera full-time is a downgrade over the rest of the Tulo-less period. I’d rather see Nelson get his ABs in while at second.
But we can't lose Herrera's bat....he's been super hot..and steady
And a good fielder.
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Right, but when his bat "cools off" from his Eckstein-esque hitting streak
he’ll go back to being a Q-type player. Herrera’s xBH in June: 0.
Hererra’s XBH in 2010: 0.
Herrera’s XBH in career: 2.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Also, Nolan Ryan was the last pitcher with two no hitters in a season
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
because he is awesome.
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He should choke up more on the bat
Then he could ruin no hitters
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Will Dion Venable is
the son of former Major League outfielder Max Venable. He also played basketball for Princeton University, as well as San Rafael High School. He is the twenty-fifth Princeton alumnus to play in the Major Leagues, but he is the first African-American alumnus.1 He was the second athlete to earn first-team All-Ivy League honors in both baseball and basketball.
wut and why?
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YOU WUD GET DA INSID JOAKS IF U WUZ THAR LAST NITE
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
And then we play Nelson...
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Nelson should have played anyways
along w/ Stew and Mora should be on the bench. I know, I know Herrera= incredibly hot or an unbelievable amount of singles. Call me crazy, but it would have been nice to see a guy play who could at least potentially hit something other than a seeing eye single. I can’t complain since Herrera was getting on base, but I think seeing a little of Nelson would have been good.
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He is a leadoff hitter, who is supposed to get on base.
He’s been doing just that. xBH’s aren’t more important than actually getting on base.
Except he has walked just twice
His on base percentage (with all these hot streak singles) is just .313. That’s essentially Clint Barmes last year.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Well I'm not counting before his current streak.
He was still adjusting I think. Maybe the streak is a fluke or something, but what is the OBP in the last 10 games or whatever?
What was his OBP at AAA?
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You have a point there
.383 last two weeks, .353 last week. Still, if he doesn’t start walking more, that can go down fast, even keeping in mind he could have walked in some of those PA in which he singled.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Right.
I agree he may be swinging at some stuff he shouldn’t. But that will hopefully get ironed out with more experience. We’ll just have to see what happens. I don’t think you can take him out of the lineup, and he plays good D at 2nd.
This is what I've been trying to say.
Thank you for being more clear :)
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I'm fine keeping him in the lineup
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm fine w/ him in too
but the reality is he that he is a Q type player, and I think the fact that he has been hot over the last couple weeks is skewing our opinion of him. He is not a major league caliber starter. His D is above avg, but his offense will not be anything to get excited about.
I would have liked to see what we have in Nelson is all, at least a couple starts, since he is a potential replacement starter to someone like Barmes. If he wasn’t going to play he should have stayed in AAA to get AB’s.
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I don't mind seeing Nelson.
The problem is the timing. We have serious games against the Padres, Giants etc. I don’t know how we give him looks now. Even with that 8 run lead last night, it wasn’t a good time to get him into the game.
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Nelson isn't exactly a talent void
and it’s not like he’s been bad when he has played. He would be 3-5 had Randy Wolf not made that lucky stab – with a .667 OBP :)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
I didn't say he was a talent void at all.
And no he hasn’t been bad, but why hasn’t Tracy run him out again?
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Herrera's hitting streak
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
So there we go...back to Herrera....
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This never EVER gets old...CLASSIC
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I neede a good laugh today
The Three Stooges routine never fails.
thank :)
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Well, that's not the Three Stooges
but they are good for a laugh too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions
yah, okay like I said this hasn't been the best day
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I'm exhausted
But I have 18 of 28 sections of the report written. Maybe done tomorrow..
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Abbott and Costello are absolute geniuses
I could never get sick of this routine
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I also like "Two Tens for a Five"
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Oh i did too
I gave myself many a nosebleed attempting Curly’s frustrated repeated self face slap
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Herrera hasn't exactly given him a chance to.
I'm not making a banana bread pastrami cottage cheese sandwich. That would severely ruin my reputation.
I understand hit streak
but during these last 3 games of this phenomenal hit streak he is 3-14, all singles, and no BB’s. So yes, there are opportunities, I don’t think the offense would fall off at all w/ Nelson out there.
But its a moot point, Nelson is likely headed back to CS, and we will get to see what Herrera does playing everyday for the next 5 weeks or so.
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batting .292/.313/.292
that might be the emptiest .292 average I’ve ever seen
by Andrew Martin on Jun 29, 2010 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions
His wOBA is really plummeting
.260 is just GADDAFFUL
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Stewart 2010 wOBA: .332
Mora 2010 wOBA: .316
June:
Stewart: .286
Mora: .335
Last two weeks:
Stewart: .303
Mora: .251
Last seven days:
Stewart: .378
Mora: .392
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions
Interesting
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I know this won't be popular
but maybe we should be starting Mora at first for Helton more often instead of for Stewart at third.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Is he better at 1b than 3b?
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Well Stewart's bat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Todd's bat right now
In fact, I’m not sure we win last night if Todd is in the lineup instead of Mora.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
probably...:(
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We probably would have won the game or wouldn't have?
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
hrrrrrrrrmmm?
DFA stewey?
Do you know how many teams would line up to snag that guy? no way,Jose.
Great fielder, takes away way more runs than the 9 errors he’s committed. And he’s still a baby offensively. He’s made some strides, just be patient and we will very happy we stuck with him.
I’d DFA Dinger, the guy has sucked for years and he’s just not getting better
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
DFA is definitely the wrong term
Option maybe
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions
I got the term wrong. Since I don't know Stewart's options status. Thanks!
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just teasing Cat
not trying to big time you here
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
No, its fine. I didn't realize the difference...thanks!
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For the record
Stewart as two options left.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Something about meat and potatoes
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Thank you...:)
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Option Dinger to AAA?!?
Why? are we mad at Colo Springs?
Does he stand to get better there? Will he be any more annoying in the late innings covering his eyes in the minors?
I think we DFA Dinger and go get the Sausage from Milwaukee or maybe one of the presidents from the Nats, I always liked Roosevelt (he looks like he knows something you dont)
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sox the Fox would so kick Dinger's tail...
and probably spin him around by it. I almost want to see this happen.
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But why not give him time like they did with Iannetta and Dex to improve his hitting at AAA?
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I'll quote the super smart guy above
This isn’t like Fowler or Iannetta, where they can’t get playing time because someone else is hitting well in front of them. Stewart is our best option at 3B, we can’t afford to have him down in AAA, even if he is slumping. —Muzia
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Sooooo tacky to quote yourself Muzia
Isn’t a having a byline enough for you!?
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I missed this in the GT last night.
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I did not
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boo.
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I've had to suffer this fool for YEARS
living in San Diego
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I love that there is no shame in quoting oneself
That is so awesome
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions
hey I had already answered the question like four posts above
why not?
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But I ignore you anyway.
The quote wasn’t the bad part, it was the shameless self-love….:P
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You make a good point.
Resume loving yourself
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Surely there's someone out there that gets hooked by the pickup line
Nice to meet you. I blog about sports…seven days a week. Let’s go out…Can I bring my Droid?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
considering RMN's been trying that angle for MONTHS
unlikely. Though I am more attractive than he is…hmmm….
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Methinks they doth protest too much
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Well, I think that line does work on SB writers
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by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
so tempting...
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and you're really loving this seven days a week thing aren't you
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HAHA
and I switch over to SB Denver, and the new banner ad on top is for finding singles in your area
FFFFF
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That's a company that knows its target market
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions
he he he
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And the banner ad links to the Row, no?
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by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I see zero ads on the page
I haven’t seen one yet in fact.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
We kid because we care
We kid because we can
;-)
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by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
I've pulled five
I can’t imagine seven. You are a Rowbot in every since of the word. I tip my cap
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions
hopefully there are reinforcements
hopefully I get good at this before there are 3 simultaneous seasons happening
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At least then you don't have to be as creative
UP: Nuggets, cuz they won
DOWN: Avs – they lost
MIddle: Broncos – it’s wednesday
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
but I like being creative
my Peaks and Valleys today was awesome. I kinda want to steal this daily feature from Russ. It was a blast
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(I am obviously tired. 4 simple sentences in a row = burned out brain)
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Wait until your articles turn out this way
Four straight sentences starting with the same word. Two straight starting with “in other words”
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions
There is zero chance they keep Nelson up combined with sending Stewart down
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by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DFA???
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
I used the wrong term
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PHEWWWWWWWWWWW
you scared the crapppp outta me
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I should have used the term options...as Andrew informed me.
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It confuses me endlessly too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
One other thought. Could this movement, be trade bait?
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Has everyone seen the BTB article on Catcher Defence Rankings?
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/6/29/1542964/btb-2010-catcher-defense-rankings
Olivo 4th out of 90, Ianetta, er, 85th out of 90…
I'm sure everyone already read it. Since it was posted 8minutes before you linked it :)
Olivo has really fallen off
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Not making excuses for Ubaldo, because he's fallen off a bit in the last two starts
But are the middle-inning meltdowns anything more than lapses in concentration?
He didn’t get wild until the 4th in either, and unless the opposition’s new strategy is to not swing and hope the pitches don’t move in/move out of the zone before they cross the plate, I don’t see what is causing the derailment.
I would throw the boston start out the window
Dude was seriously ill – he probably should not have been out there…
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The middle inning meltdown last night was due to
amoebic strike zone affecting both pitchers.
He was sick against Boston, I don’t care what Tracy or Ubaldo says. You could see it.
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Agree. At least, he should have been pulled after fifth against Boston
It’s handy to say as a Rockies fan, but he didn’t look well and there’s no point in running down his body. With the walks, it’s hard to see Ubaldo going deep into games right now. Tracy’s caught in a catch-22 between not wanting to trust the bullpen and wanting to rest Ubaldo’s arm. I’d hope he gives Ubaldo more of a break when the situation dictates (like when you’re up by 8 runs).
Didn't Ubaldo have a no-hitter going into the 6th?
No way is Tracy going to pull him. And he was throwing the no-no despite the terrible morphing strikezone.
IMO, Tracy should have gone to Belisle instead of Beimel..
Doesn’t he typically do so?
6th inning if necessary is usually Belisle, Beimel/Flores, Betancourt, Corpas/Street…
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and pitch count was fine too
Ubaldo was surprisingly efficient, even with all the walks.
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I was suprised by that.
That homerun was really the result of a shrinking strike zone – got squeezed had to throw something over the plate – it wasn’t the best of pitches – but well we can’t change the past now can we.
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Sure we can, because it was unlucky, so that means he's hella awesome
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions
hella
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
That's definitely true.
You could practically see Huson pulling his hair out in the TV booth.
I’d still count that as a mental error, even though it was brought on by the amorphous zone. That pitch was up to a guy with a bit of power. Not what you want to do even if you’re up 7.
I think it may be a little mentally draining
All the attention, I do not think he is mechanically messed up or physically overworked at all.
Maybe trying to be a bit too perfect, trying to impress every game
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“We were up by eight runs going into the inning so I was throwing my fastball more,” said Jimenez, who was also getting squeezed on the strike zone in sixth inning. “But Hairston crushed it.”
That fastball to Hairston was also the flattest fastball in MLB history. GameDay says 3" of break, though that might be kind
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Hey it happens.
Ubaldo is going to be fine. He’s not mentally worn out, he’s recovering from amoebic strikezone dysentary.
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by SDcat09 on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
nasty
So that’s what he was sick with…………..LOL
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some really great deals for sure.
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and I’d surely stand up, next to you (well not me but myn neighbor’s kid) and defend her still today.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
true story
I sang this song in a 5th grade talent show.
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I like to have a pool at the fireworks show to see how far into the show they get before playing that one.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Was it David Cross I heard a clip of making fun of that song?
I think it was. It was merciless.
I'm not making a banana bread pastrami cottage cheese sandwich. That would severely ruin my reputation.
What makes me laugh is when they play Born in the USA
because that is NOT a patriotic song
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nothing as good as when Detroit plays "Don't Stop Believin"
and everyone yells out “born and raised in SOUTH DETROIT”
but they ignore the next line
Idiots.
Stand by your man.
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not sure i agree 100% on your police work there.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha...rec'd for Fargo reference!
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wait, i get what you're saying.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
It still amazes me that politicians used that song for their campaigns in the '80s
assuming it was all apple pie and fireworks, without listening to anything but the title. I think Reagan used it at campaign stops in ’84.
That's what made so hilarious to me.
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The Dodgers used it as a rally song a couple years ago
Needless to say, if you know anything about Journey/Steve Perry, that didn’t go over too well.
Yes, I actually do like cricket. I'm Indian.
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"I mean come on, you can’t be from Nebraska and go to school at CU, I think they take away your overalls or one of your last remaining teeth for that."
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Right after the first Gulf War, one of the Denver radio stations
(Kool 105 maybe?) used to play it all the time and had various clips spliced in of real people talking about their loved ones in the military. I was like 12. I recorded it onto a cassette and I can still hear some of those people in my head.
I'm in upper right field corner for $25, though the view isn't obstructed
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
they do open up the field
for viewing fireworks as well.
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right - I think those are the seats where they actually move you down onto the field - best view of all!
It's not luck - it's The Ghost of Tulo's Mullet!
heck yes they are!
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ohhhh nice...
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do they let all the obstructed view seats move down onto the field?
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
it's only the pavilion and rockpile
Yes, I actually do like cricket. I'm Indian.
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"I mean come on, you can’t be from Nebraska and go to school at CU, I think they take away your overalls or one of your last remaining teeth for that."
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Herrera, All he does is hit singles....
Sounds like Anthony Carter. All he does is catch touchdowns…
Again, I agree,I’d like the guy to drive a ball into the gap, but its nice to see someone hit the ball where it’s pitched. Stewey, take note Sir
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
He also has a .350 BABIP
When you combine that he’s been a bit lucky with the no walks and no power, his wOBA and OBP have a ways to plummet. Then he’s Barmes minus the power, and with a worse OPB.
I haven't had an opportunity to see a lot of TV games recently
but his BABIP won’t necessarily plummet if his stroke is grooving balls over the infielders’ heads and in front of the outfielders. However, if he’s spraying seeing eye singles throughout the infield, I agree.
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
There's a lot of seeing eye singles
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
182 comments before 10 AM
I need more coffee.
I'm not making a banana bread pastrami cottage cheese sandwich. That would severely ruin my reputation.
Me too
Time for real work. "The incorporation of sustainability and waste minimization in project design by my company is…….
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
not even via mobile.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Hrrm?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions
the twofer.
can’t blame it on your phone.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions
That happens when you reply to a deleted comment
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions
The funny thing was that it looked like I had not replied to the comment.
Silly HTML.
My name is synonym for win.
that's right, that's right
comment up the space between them. then it won’t look so bad, people will just have a vague sense of deja vu.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't comment for no reason
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions
My internet crashed
Strange, since I’m plugged into a wall
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions
So, do we think we win tonight on Hammel's first no-no?
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Not if you believe Hammel's career line vs the Padres
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions
they will win tonight and lose tomorrow night. I looked into my crystal ball
(hey, this could be a regular feature…BRB)
Stand by your man.
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He's got a no-no going before the 1st inning.
We can’t talk about it.
Bad luck and such.
:tongueincheek:
My name is synonym for win.
speaking of waste minimalization...
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 10:02 AM MDT reply actions
Working on it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
i dunno, I was in the can.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
and how many strikeouts does it have
/ubaldo joke
I'm not making a banana bread pastrami cottage cheese sandwich. That would severely ruin my reputation.
That Zumaya injury was pretty awful...
Sounds like his elbow might be ruined. :(
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;ylt=AjpKfEQP5Ro2E3qmfoy2ZkRvLYF?gid=300628109
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The video looked almost like when Saunders and Dravecky broke their arms while pitching
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I know...just terrible. Delmon Young was like what happened!!?
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That was hard to watch
I feel really bad for the Tigers on this one
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
It was. His hand shaking was just terrible....
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There's been a bunch of injuries this month around baseball
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions
And he'd been pitching pretty well after a couple of lost years.
When he came up in ’06 and threw nothing but heat while the Tigers went to the Series, it was a lot of fun to watch
Agree
I’m afraid that this might derail him for good though.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm excited to see Dex called back up ust because he's an energy player
I think it’s something that has been missing from this offense and might make it more consistent in the long term. Dex gives us a different way to beat teams.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM MDT reply actions
ust just
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions
this is true..you just forget
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Too bad Chris Young isn't starting today
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I was just gonna say
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Thanks for the heads up
Turning it on right now
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Don’t bother, I’ll sum it up.
Goal, goal, goal, goal, goal, goal, goal, goal, somebody misses the net and he and his family are brutally tortured upon their return home, goal
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Don't you mean GGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL?
It's not luck - it's The Ghost of Tulo's Mullet!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jun 29, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
You really hate soccer don't you?
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Who cares! Its awesome...he's missing out.
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is an undoctored photo, by the way.
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, I will change my mind
because the NY friggin’ Post says so…
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You don’t have to change your mind. By all means, enjoy your annoying horns, faked injuries, and ties.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
And great athleticism, and rabid addicted fans, and a world event.
I’ll take it! Go Netherlands!!!!
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You do know that the NFL has faked injuries and ties too right?
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions
NFL ‘faked injuries’ != soccer faked injuries. It’s a freaking strategy in soccer. Ridiculous.
At least when there are ties in the NFL they don’t happen because one team knows it’s got no shot and tries desperately for a nil-nil draw.
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
But even the fake injuries do result in added stoppage time..
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Which ends at the whim of the official. Imagine that in a real sport. Two outs in the top of the 11th inning, the visiting team has pushed a run across to take a 4-3 lead… hey guys, game over!
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Maybe baseball’s not the best analogy to use there, but seriously… stop the freaking clock. Not that hard.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
that stoppage time is total bs. we have no way of knowing what they add on is correct or not
just stop the damn clock. i don’t understand that rule at all
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Hockey did itself a service by instituting a diving penalty and actually enforcing it
Soccer should consider the same.
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Remember when that Patroits faked injuries against the Colts as strategy to rest players?
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
There is no comparison whatsoever between that and “here i go running after the soccer ball OH MY GOD THE AGONY I HAVE BEEN WOUNDED MORTALLY oh well i guess they didn’t stop the game so i i’m fine now”
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Why not?
Willie McGinest was one the ground pretending to be in so much pain he couldn’t move and then one minute later he makes a game winning tackle and celebrates by running around the entire field. Seems like there are a lot of simularities to me.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't mind the non-stopping of the game.
But it would be nice if there was some type of certainty as to how much time. They do post +4 or +3 minutes….
But the game itself is beautiful.
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i love it
Yes, I actually do like cricket. I'm Indian.
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"I mean come on, you can’t be from Nebraska and go to school at CU, I think they take away your overalls or one of your last remaining teeth for that."
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh we know they aren't all that bad...
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haha yeah, but that is a HILARIOUS GIF
Yes, I actually do like cricket. I'm Indian.
"We could have had Jesus on the mound and [the Rockies] still would have gotten hits." -Paul Lo Duca
"I mean come on, you can’t be from Nebraska and go to school at CU, I think they take away your overalls or one of your last remaining teeth for that."
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
it is hilarious...
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but them fellers are on the same team. i think they just goofin around?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
this is awesome
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I don't know how much you guys know about the Post
but it’s generally regarded as a…“lowest common denominator” paper or something to that effect…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Well now it can be regarded as “absolutely right” when it comes to soccer.
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
poor Soccer
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
are you not a soccer fan?
funny, you’ve never mentioned as such before
by Andrew Martin on Jun 29, 2010 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I do have to say that Paraguay as the worst uniforms.
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don't cry cute japanese girl in bunny ears
your team done good
Stand by your man.
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Idk if Renck has still yet to report it or not but i just got a text from my ESPN alerts
saying that fowler was recalled today.
It’s in the title of this very post.
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
i dont know if you actually read the post or not but in the title it says Fowler up??
and then in the body: "The telecast relayed nothing of the news, and no Rockies beat writer or any other news source has apparently heard of the call-up as of 8am MDT. "
ESPN constitutes a news source
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Renck hasn't updated yet
I even emailed him about it. Imagine if a blogger informed the beat writer about it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
He responded and thanked me for the tip
Confirmed it with his agent
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
He only responds to Garrett Atkins
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Seems so.
He’s responded to my e-mails, I should have done it that way.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
MLBTR mentioned that the MLBPA is not opposed to trading draft picks.
It’s an interesting concept, and one that could definitely help teams like the Twins and Rockies get over the top without bankrupting their upper farm systems. It also would help offset the problems associated with restricted free agent compensation for marginal (or older) type A players.
Hey Andrew, you might want to add this to your links
What the Colorado Rockies Should Do
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Dave Cameron forever Jack Moore Never
dave cameron forever Jack Moore never
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
I hate to say it but I agree that we should look at making Hawpe the 1B instead of Helton
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Don't hate it; embrace it.
It’s the right move. Hawpe could put up some impressive numbers at 1B. Sadly, it would make lurid Giambi pictures even more superfluous.
I completely agree that it's the right move
I just hate that doing that to Todd is the right move
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
I hate to agree as well, but I do.
Cargo, Fowler, Spilly outfield, Seth Smith as a pinch hit or replacement for resting someone. Hawpe at first. Mora remains utility. Giambi remains DH or spell Hawpe at 1st. What do you do with Helton though?
DL for a month?
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Denying him AB's won't fix anything.
But I guess he can hit the cages or something.
30-Day DL and keep Nelson?
If his back is truly an issue, maybe a 15 day stint will be enough...
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It's worse than that
Late last year, and again now, he is reporting that it also affects his legs. At best he needs a break long enough to restore his leg strength, The back pain is probably a given.
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
The Renck article says:
Helton played in the epic five-hour struggle against the Red Sox last Thursday followed by an early-morning flight and an extra-ining game against the Angels on Friday. Tracy believes those long, high-intensity games created the problem [back and leg issues].
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
Renck adds some info in his blog post about Dex
that Helton is also experiencing back spasms and is day-to-day.
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
There's no good answer here
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 29, 2010 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Honestly,
if DOD and co want to field the best possible team, while still looking like good guys, this is definitely the best possible way. I’m all for it- definitely while Tulo is gone.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
id swap it so its Seth Smith vs RHP and Spilly vs LHP
Smtih’s bat is too good to leave on the bench strictly for PHing duties
Line against RHP: .295/.360/.590/.950 I want that hitting 3-5 times a game instead of 1
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
abso
lutely
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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Barmes is a non-tender candidate? WUT???
How does he figure that? Why did I read that..
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sarcasm
to take a page out of WolfM’s book
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I wasn't being sarcastic. And I don't think the writer was either.
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haha, the writer definitely wasn't
I think he’s the most obvious non-tender we have…why even take him to arbitration?
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
He is certainly good to have around.
As evidenced by his play at SS while Tulo is out. That is valuable, even without offensive performance. But he still has a lot of RBI’s.
Barmesy is making too much this year, and a raise would be good money after bad.
Paying anything more than $3.3M for Barmes’ production is a poor allocation of resources. EY2 could give the same WAR for much less.
Hard to believe Barmes would make mor emoney in an arbitration hearing than he is this year.
His best bet is to agree to a salary reduction on his own next season and try to stay in the organization that way.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
how often do players not get a raise in arb
especially when they have Barmie’s RBI numbers which I think still has a lot of pull in those hearings
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
When they hit a few homeruns, have decent RBIs, and have a reputation for good defense
they always get raises. But it doesn’t matter if it’s a $500k or $50k raise, Barmes’ current salary ($3.3M) is too much to pay for the value he produces as it is. Other options, internally and maybe externally, could provide the same level of production while freeing up money for bullpen help, or could even be a down payment on a real solution to 2B.
I don't have any figures, but arbitration hearings can favor either the player or the team.
If it goes that far, the team is usually asking for a reduction, and the player is asking for a raise. If Barmes asked for any sort of significant raise, I think it’s pretty certain he would lose, unless he keeps up his June production for the rest of the season, which he won’t.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
He won't ask for a significant raise though,
He’ll ask for $3.5M or something, and the team will just give it to him unless he’s non-tendered. He can also always be resigned at a more favorable rate. $2M seems like a fair number for his services.
And indeed, I don't disagree that this is a likely possibility.
My point is simply that if Barmes went stubbornly all the way to an arbitration asking for a significant raise, he would not be given it.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
If you tender him a contract
You can’t sign him to that low of a contract. I think you can only go 10% below the previous contract. The only way to sign him at 2 mil would be to non tender him, making him a free agent, and signing him to a new contract. At least, I think that is how it works.
That's what I'm suggesting.
I think he’d be open to staying at a discount. I can’t see a lot of teams clamoring to pay $1.5-2M for his player profile. Maybe the Royals.
I think there are teams out there willing to pay
1.5 to 2 for a versitile defensive super utility with a dash of pop up
but like deacs said, his 3.3 mil salary is already too high for his production
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
I understand what is being said about barmey
But
I will argue that at the end of the 6-8 weeks of no Tulo….Barmey is more than worth the 3.3 mill…
And any manager would wholeheartedly agree
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
point taken
We cant keep someone “just in case” but maybe we can. 3.3 in todays game is not all that much…
I hope its EY 2’s turn to take that position away personally, and Barmey is the super utility
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Depends on what other resources we've got.
As it has the past two years with Barmes and 2B.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Definitely.
Maybe $3.3M isn’t a big deal. Depends on the needs. Also, there’s JDLR’s FA to consider. That either opens up a rotation spot for Rogers or someone, or it’s a hole to fill. Or, you take the resources that would have gone to Barmes and put it towards resigning JDLR if the price and years aren’t too high.
Unless the injury drops DLR's price significantly (which a strong second half would cancel out), DLR is not going to be a Rockie in 2011.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Then trading for Uggla makes even more sense
because DLR’s spot could be filled by Rogers, and Barmes could be non-tendered. That’s $8M+ right there.
is that all it would take to get uggla?
Rogers and McKenry? Any guess on what it would take? If thats the price I pull the trigger and buy him a first class ticket to San Diego
Who can play 1b
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions
well playe, all...:)
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Jimenez/Hammel/Francis/Cook/Chacin
Not sure we have room for Rogers if we keep even one of Francis/DLR
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks, that's right.
I realized that there’s not actually a vacancy if Francis stays. So the team spares Rogers/McKenry, and has the money to pay for a PFG second baseman. Win-win.
I think a guy like Mike Aviles
might be a better option than Uggla. He’s cheaper, will hit for better average which is really what we need.
It doesn't really matter how he does it, as long as he can post a good OBP
Aviles is able to do that, so I agree. He does have an injury history, but maybe that risk would make him even cheaper.
also Francis and Hawpe both have options
which will most likely be picked up.
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not so sure Hawpe's option is picked up
Francis is starting to lean towards likely though
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what is Hawpe's option?
isn’t it pretty small? 8 mil or so
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
$10 million
It won’t be picked up. Though Rox Girl makes good points about the value of Francis’ option, I’m still not ready to say it’s a confirmed pickup either. Right now, Olivo’s option is the only sure-fire thing in my eyes.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
It will depend mostly on the rotation around him
If the FO believes in the prospects, they will probably decline. if they don’t, they will probably accept. Also depends on the plans with DLR.
Yes.
Losing both Francis and DLR takes out 2 of the 3 strongest fifths of a rotation, as well as both lefties. I do not believe DLR is re-signed, and keeping Francis becomes all the more important there. I still think there’s a chance the team gambles and tries to sign Francis lower, but I tend to be overly conservative with the team’s budget.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions
How much would you guess a DL stay like
DLRs hits his salary next year? All depends on next 3 months?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah i dont see them losing francis and DLR
we’ll keep one of the two with Chacin taking the 5th spot
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay, wolf, when you make statements like the above
are you saying this as your opinion or are you leaning on some inside information? I’m not being sarcastic, I’m asking a serious question, because of your connections.
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My (very potentially wrong) opinion.
I don’t really have any special connections. I did at one point know someone who worked with transactions in the front office, but I haven’t heard from in her since Spring Training.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
ahhhh...well, there it is :)
Thanks, Wolf!
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im not saying DFA barmie right now
im talking about this upcoming offseason. I would like to upgrade our 2B
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for next season? yeah, absolutely
he almost was for this season. If we trade for a 2B, Barmes does NOTHING for the team longterm. Throw in EY2 or Herrera or _ as the utility guy and save a couple million
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I never read he was going to be non-tendered....I'm really shocked actually.
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
But like
what if we do that, and Barmes isn’t on the team anymore, but like, he still has Travel-Tracy in his bathroom? I doubt he’d be a good sport and give it back…
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because he's all-glove-no-bat
and AAA is swarming with those guys?
by Andrew Martin on Jun 29, 2010 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions
His UZR is the same as Barmes so far this year
pretty much league average at -.2
he had a bad year last year, average year in 08, bad year in 07, above average in 06
plus he does have far better bat .361 wOBA compared to Barmes .289 and Herera’s .260
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for the data
No question about the offense, but I think Tracy will not want to take any steps backward on the defensive side, particularly in the middle.
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
UZR is pretty much, in my opinion, the least reliable statistic that hit widespread success and citation.
Barmes > Uggla defensively in every sense of the word. The fact that UZR fails to show this is a serious problem.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I actually don't really like UZR or any of the advanced defensive stats in general
i just cite it because thats the most commonly used defensive stat and pretty accessible
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
this twice
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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions
oh i agree
unfortuneately I cant watch every single player, every single game. thats why I have to turn to defensive metrics. The fact is that I don’t really trust UZR and the other advanced stats but there isn’t a better alternative
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions
can't agree there
we’re fooled by camera angles and diving plays
that’s the only imaginable way that Nate McLouth won a GG.
Not that UZR or w/e is any better but I don’t consider myself to be a scout or really know what I’m looking at aside from “whew he got it”
by Andrew Martin on Jun 29, 2010 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Eh,
David DeJesus has a better wOBA than Hanley Ramirez, but no one would suggest he is a better offensive player. People seem to think defensive skill manifests in complete consistency. It is less streaky than offensive statistics, but sometimes a few bad plays can seriously hurt a player’s UZR. It doesn’t mean the stat is worthless.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
no but Uggla has outperformed Barmes every year
so i think its safe to say that Uggla’s higher wOBA is an indication he is a better offensive player than Barmes
(I don’t know if you were arguing that but just in case)
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions
That's not really what I was arguing
I’m saying you can’t say “We know this player is better at defense than this other player, but this stat doesn’t show this, so the stat is broken.” wOBA is a well-received stat, but sometimes players just overperform or underperform, and it isn’t just offense. Sometimes players overperform or underperform on defense. It was a bit of a defense of UZR, as it isn’t useless. It may not be a perfect predictor, but it’s a decent analysis of past performance, at least to what we have.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
And in the case of wOBA, the results make sense. It can be quite easily deduced thaty a player is performing above or below an expectation.
In the case of UZR, they often seem entirely skewed for long periods of time, if not entirely arbitrary. I believe this is because it is incredibly difficult to accurately assign any sort of statistical expectation for defensive play to begin with. Too many factors.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
To put it another way:
Looking at Ian Stewart’s low wOBA makes perfect sense based upon the results he has shown us this season. Looking at Clint Barmes’ low UZR makes very little sense based upon the results he has shown us this season. I suppose one could argue that the stat is simply highlighting the secret suckage that Barmes’ defense actually inhabits, but in the case of UZR, I’m more inclined to believe what I see in barmes than the statistic.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm certainly not saying it is perfect or fantastically accurate
In fact, it will completely whiff on a few players, which wOBA does not. Defense is something that can be easily skewed by the eye and pre-considered reputations, which is important to consider. Do I think Barmes is a below average 2B? Of course not, though I agree with UZR that he hasn’t been as good defensively at 2B. He appears to be a lot better since being at SS, which bears out in his 30+ UZR/150
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Looking at Uggla's UZR makes me think of two things
Maybe UZR isn’t working. How can defense, which never slumps, be so variable. It must be broken.
Or
Maybe defense is just as variable as offense. Maybe a player can outright stink at it one year, and play solid the next.
You're assuming defense never slumps
Ian Stewart’s UZR this week would be far worse than the week before. Defense slumps.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
there could be other factors that affect a player year to year
maybe playing through an injury has decreased range or in Tulo’s case, bulking up to increase his offensive power seems to have decreased his range
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
This is absolutely true
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I can see bad weeks and good weeks
But there is way less luck associated with defense than pitching or hitting.
I'll agree with that for sure
It maybe shouldn’t fluctuate as much as UZR does, but a bad week could hurt someone’s defensive ratings quite a bit.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I never said it was worthless.
Though I do honestly dislike UZR enough to suggest it’s close to it.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I know I made the leap there for you
It’s vague and unreliable enough that it can be completely misused and misquoted, which makes it dangerous, but it’s still valuable.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
I like UZR, I really do
having said that – and other people should do this too if they don’t
First off, make sure you’re looking at the players UZR for their true position. Last year, Stewart had a negative UZR but was positive at 3b, how? He sucked that hard in the OF and at 2b.
Second, look at the persons performance this season and seasons in the past. UZR is extremely sensitive and a few bad plays here and there can have a big impact.
For a guy like Uggla, he’s had some pretty bad defensive years and some average ones. So we can assume he’s somewhat below average but not the butcher he sometimes gets made out to be. His offense should make up for any poor defense though.
It’s entirely possible that Barmes has been worse defensively than Uggla so far this year – we’re talking an extremely small sample. Going forward, I’d absolutely want Barmes defensively at second.
(Also, this wasnt intended for you ATF despite it being a reply to you)
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by Resolution on Jun 29, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Very very good post
You essentially said what I’ve been trying to, far more clearly. UZR can be misused and misunderstood based on the points you outlined, then it is overly villified for the misused inferences taken from it.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
They can indeed.
They can, even if you don’t believe so, also be unoptimized and deceptive. I’ve watched a lot more Barmes than Uggla this season, but I’d still say Barmes has looked better at 2B based upon what I’ve seen.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I haven't seen Uggla nearly enough to draw an intelligent analysis on him this year
I certainly agree they have deceptive flaws, like the quizzical black hole of defensive CF at Coors Field
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
/punch
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions
shut up shut up shut up
we dont need the Marlins hearing that, they obviously dont know!
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I don't really pay attention to Uggla,
but the 08 All Star game error I can remember.
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Jun 29, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
i remember that too
and im guessing that game plays a lot into the “uggla is terrible”
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
He ruined Cook's outing!
bah! he made me so mad…..
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by prettyinpurple on Jun 29, 2010 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey, I'm with you PIP
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Uggla made me mad, but Cook's escape act was so impressive.
Everybody around baseball was talking about that. I think I rather like how it turned out in the end.
True, but it forever put Uggla on my rotten list.
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It was said that had the NL won, Cook would have gotten the MVP award.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
This makes me even more mad at Uggla...
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why?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't consider 250+ chances and 440+ innings a small sample size.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
For the amount to be accurate for defensive skill, it certainly is
It needs to be about six times that.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions
So you feel we can't take an accurate measurement of a player's defense until they've played 2.5 seasons worth of innings??
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, that's what those that developed UZR
3 seasons of defense = 1 season of offense in terms of sample size
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, I would also contend that one sixth of a season isn't a small sample size either.
Small sample sizes are, to me, several innings or games. Not several weeks. I acknowledge that there is plenty of room in ANY single season of play for anomalous results that deviate from the expectation, which I presume is why the statisticians take sample sizes into such significant consideration. They don’t want to allow for those anomalies to account for any large shift in an opinion of a player over time. Fine, but a player’s performance over a certain period of weeks, to me, is fair game for deciding how they are performing over a space of time that shouldn’t be forgotten in favor of a full season. While a hot second half for Ian Stewart, for example, may significantly increase his stats, his performance over the past month is still a large enough sample for me to take it into account, whereas one week of play is legitimately forgettable.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions
If you think about how UZR is calculated
you’re essentially breaking the field into several subunits (64 specifically). We don’t know where those chances are occurring necessarily and it takes longer to accumulate relevant samples in each of those zones.
Another way of looking at it is, we all generally agree that a full season of at-bats is a sufficient sample size. Lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of those graphics where they break the strikezone into 9 quadrants to show you a players hot and cold zones. What they’re effectively doing is dividing the person’s at bat’s by 9. Theoretically, we’d need 9 seasons of at bats to get a reliable season’s worth of data from each of those.
The analogy isn’t perfect (and I may have made a mistake in my logic somewhere), but this is more or less why UZR can fluctuate so much even from a seemingly large sample.
Additionally, UZR is above average, so added fluctuation on the part of the individual could be in response to the talent at the position rising or falling (which is unlikely to explain large shifts, but with the current emphasis on defense, it make explain some more variation than it has historically)
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Wolfie, a small sample size is entirely dependent on the stat being studied
An event that happens once a game will require 6 times as many games as an event that happens 6 times a game to give as accurate a sample.
So to say “1/6th of a season is not a SSS” you have to be able to back that up. Do the events you’re considering amount to enough individual instances to give you a big enough sample size? For defence, no, probably not.
"So to say "1/6th of a season is not a SSS" you have to be able to back that up."
First, it’s one sixth of three seasons, not one.
Second, I’m not trying to “prove” any sort of rule. I’m speaking, purely within my own viewpoint, that 144 innings at a position can, I feel, give you PLENTY of a good idea of what to expect from a player. If you disagree, that’s fine.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Also, what's with "wolfie"
Cute or patronizing?
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions
If you have to ask then obviously you're taking it in the wrong spirit
But no, I don’t think 144 innings is a big enough sample if you’re considering misplayed fielding. Most players will make approx 1 error in that time frame, and how many other fielding situations will be out of the ordinary? I’d say half a dozen is generous. So you sample is shrinking rapidly, which is why one month of play isn’t even close to being enough to make any judgements on fielding metrics.
I've been around you enough on the blog to know that you can occasionally take the conceited angle towards your discussions.
I was making sure your intent was to tell me why I’m wrong, and not tell me I’m an idiot. I’m not afraid to be wrong, and it happens plenty, but when people explain something to me, I expect them to take me seriously. If you were not doing such a thing, then we’re fine here.
See my post below, and if it is totally off base, then please feel free to explain just what it is I’m missing in the UZR process. I’ve read plenty on it, and I still can’t find any sort of way to consistently use it as any indicative measure, even over a lengthy sample size.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I think you're right in that even a lengthy sample size may not be representative
For the reasons I mention in my above post.
Better this year?
It seems equally likely that Brad Hawpe has been better than Ichiro this year.
I understand your point and agree with the rest of your post but the statement about Uggla possibly being better this year defensively at second base than Barmes has been defies logic.
There is a point where physical limitations (and lack of tools) become such a significant factor that no amount of practice, positioning or effort can overcome said limitations.
All right, I'll attempt to provide an example of why I find UZR to be untrustworthy.
Let’s take a look at Todd Helton’s UZR values from 2002+, since the data hasn’t been calculated back farther.
2002: 12.3
2003: -.6
2004: .4
2005: 2
2006: -3.3
2007: 8.8
2009: -.6
2010: .5
Now, it is readily apparent that there is absolutely no consistency with these numbers here, but for the sake of trying to understand the process to the best of my ability, I’ll play along with the setup and see where it takes me.
Ultimate Zone Rating is roughly defined as a measurement of runs allowed or prevented during the course of time in the field. Much like WAR or other value stats, it is built upon a specific benchmark level (0, measured in UZR as the “average” expected defensive value in terms of runs allowed or prevented, whereas with WAR it is placed at the expected minimum performance of any MLB player). Therefore, the average player will be appearing in the range of 0, while poor defensive players, presumably allowing more runs than preventing in the field, will receive a negative value, and the opposite for a positive contribution.
I’ll be looking at individual season to start, before we address the sample size issue below. Because the value of any defensive performance only accurately stacks up when in comparison to other players at the same position, I’ll not be taking any looks at positions other than first base, since Helton is my example. Helton had the highest UZR rating of any first baseman in the 2002 season at 12.3. The lowest was Randall Simon at -11.1, with more limited time, in which case the law of averages would probably suggest that this number would grow larger, even if still negative, over further time.. We can therefore assume that on a seasonal scale, producing measurements above 10 at first base is generally considered a fantastic UZR, while below -10 is considered an absolutely terrible UZR. Further seasons at first base reflect several similar numbers on either end, which a few unusual exceptions that occur in just about every value stat, but since I am not trying to just accuse UZR of being imperfect, these anomalies don’t do much to help my argument.
Taking a look at Helton’s worst UZR season, where Helton was ruled at -3.3 UZR, we see the spectrum laid out with Albert Pujols at the top with 10.6, and Prince Fielder the lowest with -9.4, this time in a full season’s worth of ABs. The ranges seem consistent, but Helton is in a different direction on each one.
Now, this is obviously inherently suspicious to me, that the stat measures somebody who does an absolutely fantastic job, a moderately poor job, and everything in between over just the course of a few years. The argument from the UZR supporter, as explained by ATF, is that one season’s value in UZR is not a sufficient enough qualifier to describe a player’s defensive skill. UZR’s sample size apparently needs 3ish seasons of innings in the field at a specific position in order to be considered a reliable measurement.
Moving on then, any three of Helton’s seasons should, therefore, indicate some sense as to how good Helton is defensively, if UZR is doing its job. Let’s take a look, shall we?
With the exception of 2008 and 2010, enough innings were spent at 1B by Todd Helton to be considered a full season’s worth of playing time. The averages between sets of 3, 4, 5, however many seasons of play you choose STILL fail to provide any sort of consistent label on Helton’s defense, even when weighted by innings played. Through any given set of 5 of his 7 “full seasons” in MLB, weighted by innings, Helton’s full seasons can show him at moderately above average, weighted higher by his 12.3 and 8.8 ratings if you take his best years, or right around average at 0 if you take his worst. While this squeezes the variety considerably, it still does not provide, in my opinion, any sort of consistent determination of a defensive skill inside Todd Helton.
Where am I going wrong here? All I see, looking at UZR values for just about any player, is ranges ranging from reasonably positive to reasonably negative that, when applied to the 3 season sample size test, still don’t focus on anything. It’s a damaged lens from any angle I can seem to find. I fully acknowledge that I may be misinterpreting things here, but I want to know what and why. I want to know why any given player’s UZR rating can be so significantly different over any period, season, 3 seasons, career, and still somehow be indicative of a defensive skill. Even if the stat is doing its job on its own terms, whatever it’s calculating isn’t telling me what it’s supposedly supposed to. IF UZR is providing a proper contextualization of defensive performance, even over the so-called significant sample size of 3ish seasons, then it still seems defense in general is simply a widely varied field to analyze, and anybody trying to cite UZR as a an indicator of expected defensive performance is simply using the stat wrong.
If that is the case, then what IS the stat for? If that is not the case, then why does the stat even exist? If it’s obvious, please tell me because my thought process could easily be failing me.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions
A few points
First off with regard to Helton’s numbers, I don’t know about consistency, but I do see the trend that he is typically above average. He was below average 3 times – two of those times it was .6, which is small enough that I’m willing explain away given his defensive reputation in other seasons (definitely not an acceptable practice for those looking for consistency, but this is just how I interpret UZR). However, the negative 3.3 is not small enough to explain away, I obviously don’t know for sure why this number is low, but I’m willing to bet that his terminal ileitis had something to do with it – beyond it reducing the sample size of Helton’s 2006 since he missed 15+ games. So its entirely possible that Helton just had a shitty year of defense due to inflamed intestine and whatever baggage accompanies that surrounded by mostly above average years – and if that’s case, if Helton’s defense suffered from his medical condition (something we don’t truly know for sure I suppose) then UZR is doing its job because it detected that. Additionally, the omitted 2008, he was a positive at 3.6, which is good to see that even in his limited time, he was above average following a season where he put up 8.8 (so again, maybe not the consistency we all hope to see, but the trend of being a positive defender).
Another point, like I mentioned earlier, this stat is above average. I don’t know what the averages are for each season, but it seems possible that adding a few defense-heavy guys could raise the average so that even if Helton is doing the same thing he always does, his defense would ‘slip’ (this isn’t necessarily a strength of UZR, but may explain some of its variance). So if Casey Kotchman gets to play for a season, and if the Giants let Ishikawa play, then that’s 2 out of 30 possible spots being manned by supposedly awesome defenders. I’d imagine that this would influence UZR (though I’m clearly ignoring the converse of two horrible defenders being allowed to play and thus evening things out).
To your earlier comment of thinking 144 innings is a significant sample size – that’s just 16 games. I wouldn’t try to draw conclusions about a persons true ability from 16 games. This becomes especially salient when I think of how many plays a first baseman is involved in. 1b’s are involved in a lot of plays, but I’m not sure if UZR acknowledges that. UZR looks at batted balls if I remember correctly so the difference between how many plays a 1b is involved in versus how many balls are hit to the 1b to field is a large number. I bring this up to highlight just how small 144 innings may be. I’m also aware that UZR looks at errors, but I’m not sure how. So for instance if a ball is hit to Helton and it rolls through his legs – a clear error, I believe UZR picks up on that. I’m less clear at how UZR would handle the shortstop making an excellent throw to Helton and he just dropping it – but this is all off topic anyway.
As to your point of taking the average of different sets of 3 years and getting different numbers. I don’t know what to say to that. On the one hand I feel you’re right and it’s bullshit on the part of UZR, on the other hand I feel its cherry picking to some extent. I could take the first half numbers of Mark Teixeira for the past 4 seasons, have two seasons worth of offensive numbers, and come away thinking, he’s pretty good, but not as good as he is. Also, it’s really that -3.3 defensive year that’s really screwing things up and again, I wouldn’t be surprised if Helton was just worse that year due to his medical condition.
And some last things that are surrounding how I use UZR (or what I think the stat is for) – which may be different than how others do. Typically, I’m simply looking for above average or below average. If I see a majority of pluses, I say person x is a good defender without really getting into the specifics of exactly how good of a defender they are. I don’t think there’s too much of a difference between being +2 and +6, especially at a position like 1b (or the difference between hitting 29 and 38 home runs – the person is still a power hitter to me). I also consider someone average if they’re within 1 of zero. So Helton’s -.6 years, I’m more comfortable saying he was average rather than below average.
Also, and again, this really doesn’t do such a great job of defending UZR, but I’m willing to trust all the people that have put work into it. There are a lot of minds more knowledgeable about this area than I, and I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when they all seem to agree to some degree that this is a useful statistic. Having said that, I have read on how UZR is calculated and 1. I find it to be very appealing theoretically – I like where it comes from and I like what it attempts to do even with its flaws 2. I don’t think we currently have a better option for measuring defense so I’m willing to roll with it.
Lastly, it depends on what we’re trying to do with the statistic. Are we trying to get a read on how the person has been historically or how we expect them to play going forward? Fowler was horrible last year in the OF but I don’t feel he’s really that bad. Is this a flaw in UZR? Maybe, but it’s not like this ‘UZR machine’ is just trying to feed us lies. It’s possible that with the rush of being in the bigs, adjusting to a new park, and probably focusing a lot more on hitting, Fowler had a bad year. So I’m comfortable saying Fowler had a crappy year last year defensively but I’m not comfortable saying he’s a poor defender because of that – we need more time.
This also brings up another problem – UZR has difficulty with certain parks. Fenway is one example, and often, questions are raised about Coors. Lately, when I’ve been looking at the defensive statistics of players at minorleaguesplits.com, I’ve only been looking at their away stats. Who knows what’s going on in their one home park? But how they perform across every other park, I think is a better indicator. Of course only looking at away-UZR would then mean we need 6 seasons of it at which point the stat becomes impractical. So this definitely isn’t a strength of UZR.
So to sum up, I agree that UZR is imperfect and doesn’t display a great deal of consistency. But I think this has to do to some degree with the way it’s calculated along with various other factors, but I do think UZR does a respectable job of displaying trends. Typically guys who we think are good defenders do get positive ratings with UZR for the bulk of their seasons – at which point UZR is doing what it’s supposed to. Unfortunately UZR does lend itself to abuse easily but hopefully that will change as people understand it more and stop discussing it the way we would offensive statistics.
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This is from Sky Kalkman
Yes, fielding
metrics vary a lot. Yes, they aren’t perfect. Yes, you’ll get good
fielders with bad scores and good fielders with bad scores. But
people need to get over that.
Todd Helton, 1999 batting average: .320
Todd Helton, 2000 batting average .372
That’s a huge swing. Do we toss aside batting average just because of that?
Also, when looking at three years, you shouldn’t see if it “focuses in
on anything”. You should just look at the three year overall
total/average. If the years are 12, 2, and -4 (arbitrary numbers),
the conclusion isn’t that we dont’ know what UZR thinks. The
conclusion is that UZR thinks he was +3.3 runs per year over that time
frame (123-4, divided by three).
Many people who take serious issue with UZR have the expectation that
is should be perfect, and when it’s not, then it must be useless. AVG
isn’t perfect, OBP isn’t perfect, OPS isn’t perfect. But they aren’t
without value. If the choices are a) media scouting reports and my
own eyes or b) media scouting reports, my own eyes, and UZR, going
with option b is a no-brainer. You’ll be better off, even with the
imperfection.
On a side note, one of the biggest problems with UZR isn’t the
methodology, it’s the data used as an import. If you do the same
calculations, but use STATS data (Fangraphs uses BIS data), you’ll get
worryingly different results.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 30, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Sky pretty well reflects what I've tried to communicate
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 30, 2010 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions
REALLY OT: But because well I think people should know.
Suppressed anger turns people into mean drunks
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
This is an excellent question.
Nice tie in
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
I think maybe he should keep that fifth in his Gatorade bottle...
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Well, kids...gotta run catch you all later.
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Just talked to a major league source who confirmed that Dexter Fowler has been called up
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
I hope he starts tonight.
Just seems like he’s been doing well and I think that with Fowler AND Cargo in the outfield, we can catch damn near anything.
I hope he goes 5-5 with two triples, two doubles and a walk and scores 5 times, and we forget all about the start of his season
That would be killer
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by Hollidayrain on Jun 29, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Nah
I’m pretty sure he won’t allow any hits
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I hope that if he starts struggling hitting from the left side again they just have him hit righty and not worry about it.
Screw that
He hits two home runs…for each side of the plate. Each. It will be epic.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
People, people, people...
When Dex comes back up, he’s riding the pine/pinch hitting off Brian Wilson with two outs in the ninth. Duh.
Well, he is in the starting lineup tonight
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Nelson down?
I know thats the consensus going around here.. But nooooooooo :(
by CentralCaliRox on Jun 29, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Not too disappointed.
Herrera’s singles are productive enough from the leadoff spot and Nelson can benefit from regular play.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
i think the ideal situation is Helton to go on the DL
rest his back for two weeks. But odds are it will be Nelson down
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
It would, but it would require a second move.
Tracy’s comments pretty much confirm that for now, he’s not DL-bound.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Which second move?
Dex is already called up, and Helton to DL. 1B would be covered by the three headed monster known and Hamobi.
If Helton had to go on the DL, I honestly don't know what they'd do with Dex already back up.
They could presumably cvall Nelson back up again, as he’d be an injury replacement and eb allowed to circumvent the 10 day waiting period. I’d say Brad Eldred is a possibility, but they’re not looking to fill the roster again with the spot needed for Buchholz, and a solo 1B, even if right handed, would be redundant.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
did nelson for sure get sent down already?
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Not confirmed, but it's easily the most likely move.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I think it's just as likely
as Helton going on the DL. Especially with all the reported problems in the last day.
oh and Helton to the DL would be the ideal to test out Hawpe at 1b
then have Spilly/Smith, Cargo, Dex outfield. Try it for 2 weeks see what the results are
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Interesting afternoon of twitter watching ahead.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Renck's DP article:
It’s unclear what the corresponding roster move will be, though infielder Chris Nelson will likely be sent down.
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
I don't understand why this is such a big secret.
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Utley and Polanco to the DL
Time to leapfrog the Phils
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:04 PM MDT reply actions
Wow
they are being destroyed, as is one of my fantasy teams.
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with Utley that is
not Polanco
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this is what happens when your core starts to age
and instead of getting younger, you sign someone like Polanco to a 2 year deal
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3 year deal
although this year they probably arent complaining. hes played above his contract already
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions
it's almost never the first year of the contract you worry about, it's the last couple*
*This statement does NOT apply to Milton Bradley
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oops hit enter too early
you just have to hope as fans, when your team gives out those contracts that the player far exceeds in the first several years to make up for the decline in the later half
by purplesocks on Jun 29, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I had VMart, Polanco and Heyward all go down on me this week
Losing Polanco doesn’t hurt, because I’ve started him about four games in the last couple months. He’s blocked by Zimmerman and Kinsler. I’ve been furiously trying to trade him for OF help. There goes that.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Heyward and Utley
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The Rox havent won on this date
for 10 years!
Let’s hope they change it and give me a bday gift.
This is R year!
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That's her story and she's sticking to it. :)
Happy Birthday PIP!!!
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 29, 2010 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
happy birthday to you two
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Joel Zumaya has non-displaced fracture of olecranon (projection of the ulna bone at the end of the elbow) and is out for the year.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 12:34 PM MDT reply actions
Oh...ouch...this is really sad.
How did he manage to fracture it, just by throwing?
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That's just awful
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Despite going 4-3 vs Boston, Anaheim and San Diego without Tulo or a good Ubaldo
SBNation’s Power Rankings drop the Rockies to 17.
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by Franchise26 on Jun 29, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
which is why we follow them religiously
Francis is my homeboy. Matt Daley has a boo boo on his shoulder.
Hey! Ubaldo has closed the gap on the MLB. com poll
Which of the following pitchers starting on Monday would you rather build a team around?
RHP Stephen Strasburg
50%
RHP Ubaldo Jimenez
49%
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who has
the other 1%
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I'm shocked he's that close to Strasburg
And that’s not being surly. Given age and the past couple weeks…
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I think him carrying the no-no into the 6th
winning his 14th…made a difference
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I think age is a big factor, too.
I honestly wouldn’t blame people for picking Strasburg for that kind of question. If you’re just talking about this season or the next couple seasons, that’s a different story.
All-Star Voting is really really tedious...
but it goes by more quickly when not filling out the AL ballot :)
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I just about maxed all our email accounts.
I ended up voting for Babe Ruth like 200 times.
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by prettyinpurple on Jun 29, 2010 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I voted 175 times
I counted. xD
Ohey… I don’t know if I hijacked my husband’s e-mail yet… :D
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Can I also say
Jimmy EFFING Rollins? REALLY?
Because I needed to get it out of my system again. Stupid Phillies fans and their large numbers.
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All Star voting needs to be taken away.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions
or the all star game being meaningful
either one im fine with. just not both
at least that part is good
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Was reading an article about the weirdo fan at the Nats/Braves game last night,
And there was this gem about Strasburg:
The 42,889 at Turner Field — 21,608 of which bought tickets in the previous five days — actually chanted “Over-rated!”
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I swear I didn't send them
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Un. Sus. TAIN A BLE. Clap clap clap calp.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Beats what Braves' fans normally chant
/unveiled early 90’s racism
I assume this has been discussed to death already
and I apologize that I’m too lazy to scroll through all 500 comments looking for it — napping for an hour or so will do that to you — but anyone else think Uball’s heavy pitching count loads have contributed to his ‘problems’ recently?
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i dont think that has actually been discussed yet
it might have a little to do with it. I think that Ubaldo was just pitching at such a historic level that he had to come back down to earth and these last two starts just prove that he is in fact human.
but speaking of pitch counts, where is that “Pitcher Abuse Rating” stat or whatever it is called. Which website had that listed? It would be interesting to see if Ubaldo is among the leaders
Top 5:
1. Edwin Jackson 150623
2. Ubaldo Jimenez 75244
3. Roy Halladay 68463
4. Justin Verlander 68219
5. Ryan Dempster 65280
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I wonder how much Edwin Jackson went up after that 149 no-hitter.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah thats what i was looking for
thanks for finding it.
I notice that aside from Edwin Jackson everyone else in the top ten are teams #1 pitchers (I know cain and lackey are technically #2s in their rotation but on most teams they would be #1s)
Nolan Ryan says pitch counts are for 12 year olds.
by cocainelips99 on Jun 29, 2010 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
agree
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Greg Silver-Muzia will NOT abide by a pitch count
his arm gets tired, it’s time to switch arms for the day.
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Possibly, but we also have plenty of other important factors.
Such as Ubaldo having the flu for the Boston game, and such as San Diego installing an anti-humidor for last night’s game.
In both cases, he did legitimately tired more quickly than he had before.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions
he still could have not been fully recovered from the flu last night too
i predict we will see unhittable Ubaldo against the giants. Is he set to face Lincecum again? Anyone know?
Chacin vs. Lincecum
then Ubaldo Zito
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
It may be Chacin's final start this season.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Not quite
JLDR not back till the 7th, I think Chacin might get one more after this?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
Friday is the second
and that is Chacin’s next start. With an off day on Monday his next start would be scheduled for the 7th or 8th, the days DLR is expected back.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
Yep
Bumgarner, Lincecum, Zito, Cain….missing out on Sanchez. 2nd straight series vs the Giants we get their big three
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions
he had a good june until his last start
and it was against boston
And Zito scares me the most, to be honest.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions
because they both like looking to the left and up?
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
They're both in deep thought about the same thing.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
um....
is that thing to the left and up?
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
or is it Jesus?
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
zito does seem to have our number
hopefully ubaldo will be back to dominating and we can get 1 or 2 runs off zito
without having the actual numbers in front of me, i feel like we dont fare well against Cain or Timmy either. This could be a tough weekend.
We do better against Timmy than most, if not all, other teams.
He has faced us more than anyone and is just 5-4 (albeit 3.62 ERA).
Cain is 10-6 with a 2.94 ERA. So while they tend to keep us in check and we never bludgeon them, we’re quite competitive against them.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
this year, Matt Cain is 2-0 with a 0.56 ERA and 13K against us though
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so far
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
yeah he didn't face the single-hitting tsunami known as Johnny Herrera
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GO JOHNNY GO GO!
seriously – I hope he can keep up some of this for a while – but I know he will come back down to earth soon…but hopefully Nelson will still be around at that point to take over.
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
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Run! Johnny run! Johnny run!
DA DA da da DA.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions
I love when clients take me to lunch and make me order beers....
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
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Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
You don't need a job to get drunk in the afternoon.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
well
my clients don’t take me out and make me drink beers they are paying for. Not once ever
:( you do need a new job.
we have clients come in and bribe us with our favorite beers.
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
im glad they bring in your favorite
instead of something like a 30 pack of Keystone Ice
I don't think
Keystone Ice is allowed to be sold in Fort Collins…
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Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
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i wish we had those same rules in boulder when i was in college
so many people would buy a 30 pack of Key Ice. worst tasting beer out there
you thinking of Key Light?
cause that just tastes like water. Key Ice is terrible tasting
now Boulder's a PBR town for house parties
slight improvement
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i like PBR actually
definitely a step up from Key Ice
If you are ever up in Fort Collins
Steak Out Saloon – $3.75 get’s a you a Hebrew National Hot Dog – A side of Chips and a Pickle – and a Domestic Draft of your choice – they have PBR on tap….
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
there is zero chance I am going up to Fort Collins and drinking a PBR
that’s like going to a gourmet bakery and buying a day old bagel.
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by Muzia on Jun 29, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha ha ha ha
ok. good point. I’m just saying thats one heck of a deal for a weekend lunch….
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
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But I have absolutely zero problem with PBR at the Larimer Lounge
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
We should schedule a PR get together New Belgium tour or something
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes please, I've never been
Wait, are we all becoming friends IRL? Is that allowed?
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Well we made the jump from PR
to Facebook – the next logical step would be IRL…
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Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
As long as we don't have to talk racing
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Ouch.
I like racing.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
Last time I checked, we were friends IRL for a while.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe not he and I
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions
The internet is real life! :p
After making so many friends online over the past ten years, I don’t particularly think of it as any different.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Until you can prove I am not Michael Buble's voice in Gerard Butler's body
probably not ;-)
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Did the Meet Up thing
prove that RG and Russ are not the same person?
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I don't think that
RG posted in the game thread last night…
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She did Sunday though
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions
so they are the same...
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
not necissarily
sure, Russ was there. but was Rox Girl?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't know
Although I wasn’t there I don’t think RG was either, therefore they might still be one-in-the-same
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
I agree
I bike past it every day to work – love that place.
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Fort Collins bicycle brewery tour.
make it happen.
I'm not making a banana bread pastrami cottage cheese sandwich. That would severely ruin my reputation.
by Justus on Jun 29, 2010 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
awesome idea.
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they do something called
Tour De Fat – it really is more of a bike parade than a brew tour.
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
in ca. they do bike ride winery tours
but it’s a waste of time by the second winery everyone calls a cab :)
I would like to be included in this...
…if I’m cool enough.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
"Cheap tacos are rightous!"-My Daughter
I'll even drink ONLY my own beers!!
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
"Cheap tacos are rightous!"-My Daughter
that sounds wierd
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
we need more pictures from
PR events…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
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We need more eyewitnesses
so my alabis will stand up.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
"Cheap tacos are rightous!"-My Daughter
I'll join you for that deal
I’m about a half mile from Steak Out right now. Okay actually two, but not far.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
ha ha ha ha ha
seriously.
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
Does it count if my client indirectly pays for beer with my travel per diem?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm gonna go with Yes on this one.
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Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
That's the client only 75% of the time
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Phillies release Willy Taveras
we get a second third fourth chance to pick him up!
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he should just retire
there is a reason he keeps getting released
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
lack of homers?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions
not enough strikeouts, his performance was completely unimpressive
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Hell, maybe he should try pitching.
He’s run out of room to move forward with his other tools.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 29, 2010 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions
he did have a good arm
and when he gets to the plate bunting is still an option
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
Harding just tweeted
that SI will be placing Ubaldo on its next cover
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little late now
wait never mind. This is cool
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/worried about jinxes Maria.
This is awesome – way to go Ubaldo!
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
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He's already exploded and given up 13 runs in his last three of his last four starts
He’ll go up :)
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll bet half the page is Ubaldo
the other half Strasburg
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Brad Hawpe - Will pickup the slack for Tulo's bat
Todd and Troy - Get moving and get well soon
Ubaldo Jimenez- Saving the collective's bacon!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
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hit the NOOOO button
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
~ The 'no' button. Because desperate times call for desperate measures.
MOST IM-PRESSIVE
clap clap clap clap clap
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:19 PM MDT up reply actions
and Fowler batting leadoff tonight!
CF Fowler
2B Herrera
RF Cargo
LF Spilly
1B Mora
C Olivo
SS Barmes
3B Stewart
RHP Hammel
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OH LOOK. A REAL LEADOFF GUY.
Ubaldomania.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jun 29, 2010 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I like the look of this lineup...
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Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
Slugger in the 8 spot is neat....
but sort of a waste with the pitcher spot behind him…
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The 2 and 7 spots are kind of weak
And I love Spilly, but he better not be our cleanup guy in September
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions
agree
on all accounts. I think Tulo is the cleanup when he gets back and Carlos never leaves the 3 hole again.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
but he’s hit a home run in every game he’s hit cleanup this series.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm getting a handle on this Saber stuff.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
What we need is to get a handle on the Caber stuff
That’ll do wonders for our lineup
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
thank for you this image.
i got something good coming.
Ubaldomania.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jun 29, 2010 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Ubaldo will never pitch past the fifth again
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 29, 2010 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions
If
he’s got a no-hitter going after five pull him and watch his ERA go down
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
Close
It’s crazy how many ridiculous pictures of Alex Rodriguez there are out there.
by controlled_slide on Jun 29, 2010 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I like Barmie...
…but is there ANY good reason to upgrade him to the 7 slot and demote Stewie to the 8?
split the lefties
oh. wait. never mind.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
Stew always hits 8th when the Rox play Eastasia.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions
inconsistency
OHNOOOZZZZZ
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
OH MY GOD...There could be an earthquake in SD...
wait, I shouldn’t even joke about that
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Brad Hawpe - Will pickup the slack for Tulo's bat
Todd and Troy - Get moving and get well soon
Ubaldo Jimenez- Saving the collective's bacon!
Proud Member of the PR Gynocracy!
I hope Nelson goes back to AAA and tears it up
He looked pretty good in limited action w/ the Rox
I was at the game when he knocked the ball out of the catcher’s mitt,
which got us a W. His call-up was worth it based on that alone.
Mediocrity sucks
So Muzia posted the Tracy face earlier, and I made this
Ubaldomania.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jun 29, 2010 6:16 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
rec
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
I like how it gets blurrier as it spins
Very avant-garde.
by controlled_slide on Jun 29, 2010 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Like his lineup changes make me dizzy
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Brad Hawpe - Will pickup the slack for Tulo's bat
Todd and Troy - Get moving and get well soon
Ubaldo Jimenez- Saving the collective's bacon!
Proud Member of the PR Gynocracy!
Ha no Red Sox lead in any all star ballots
ha ha ha not true of the Rockies
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