Thursday Rockpile: Ubaldo pitcher of the month, Rizzo to avoid the DL
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Rockies' Jimenez repeats as NL pitcher of the month - The Denver Post - The voters have spoken, a single perfect game just doesn't trump four runs allowed in 46 innings pitched. Besides, if Dallas Braden and Armando Gallaraga err.., never mind, can throw one, how rare is it really? Try throwing a six walk no hitter. That's rare.
If Jimenez wins a third straight pitcher of the month honor, it would mean rolling through a schedule that includes starts against three of the American League's top five scoring teams, Toronto, Boston and Minnesota, as well as taking on the D-backs' dangerous-when-hot offense in Arizona, so yeah, count me as in favor of that plan. By this point, after Gallaraga got robbed of his perfecto last night, it's clear that there's something up with the scoring league wide. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out, if it's a long term shift or just a blip, but we're in a pitching year, it would seem.
So, where is the Rockies pitching help outside Jimenez? Last season, all five starters stepped up at once in June to start the Rockies run that would eventually take them into the playoffs, this season we've got a lot of herky-jerky, stop and go after our ace takes the mound. Jhoulys Chacin looked like the guy for a couple of starts, then fell back. Now it's Jeff Francis' turn, after two solid starts to start his season, he has looked very mortal in the last pair. Luck seems to play a large part for both Chacin and Francis, balls that were finding gloves early for those two have been finding gaps lately. The issue isn't stranding RISP, as Jim Armstrong seems to assert, it's not allowing as many RISP in the first place.
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The first link also lets us know stadium reporter Alanna Rizzo was not seriously injured when an overthrow baseball hit her during BP yesterday. She'll be back with the team this weekend. Carl Pavano would be missing three weeks with this.
Ken Griffey Jr. retiring at age 40 - The Denver Post - Griffey Jr. retires with 606 more hits, and just six more doubles than Todd Helton. Passing the Kid in some of these stat categories would aid the Toddfather's HOF case.
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There is no game today
I am crestfallen. I want to get after Kennedy and get back to 4 games over .500
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 8:29 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Don’t see how it can be Buckner when he’s a Detroit Tiger. I think it’s going to be Kennedy-Willis-Lopez.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
CRESTFALLEN!
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
In fairness to you, apparently the Post didn’t either.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
"key guy"
Dombrowski managed to find a way to lose that trade.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions
are the dbacks picking up most of dtrains salary?
if i remember right he makes around 12 mil a year doesnt he?
I was absolutely stoked
when I found out that Kennedy would be pitching, because I knew this was going to come up.
I'm not making a banana bread pastrami cottage cheese sandwich. That would severely ruin my reputation.
I've been screwing up and re-posting pictures from the previous night's game wraps
twice in a row, now. I edited it out this time.
The Rays lost a run due to a missed call last night too.
Oh and for what it’s worth, Joyce admitted his missed call and personally apologized to Gallaraga. I still feel sick from the whole thing.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
the Mariners walkoff was also on a blown call at 2B
I watched the end of that game before going to sleep to get over my Galarraga depression, and it made it even worse
Stand by your man.
Wow.
It’s not the Year of the Walkoff or Year of the Pitcher.
It’s the Year of the Ump.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
beautiful diving play to grab an Ichiro single, underhand toss to 2B to get the force
only the ump called him safe. The second baseman is in disbelief and doesnt notice the runner streaking home until it was too late.
Really bad call.
Stand by your man.
I just watched it again
and it made me sick to my stomach…..sigh…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
these are not necessarily mutually exclusive categories
I think umpiring usually has a pretty big role in no-hitters/perfect games and of course, you can’t have a walk-off balk like the Dodgers did two nights ago without them.
The bad calls aren't just helping hitters but I get what you're saying.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
meh, more like the year of the Stump
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley has been freed!
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Oh and Poz has a post about it now.
As always with him, it’s all you need to read about it.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
by phishbate on Jun 3, 2010 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, best writer in sports
The way he handled himself after the game, well, that was something better than perfection. Dallas Braden’s perfect game was thrilling. Roy Halladay’s perfect game was art. But Armando’s Galarraga’s perfect game was a lesson in grace.
Stand by your man.
ha, I want his character on our team
his pitching? I don’t think he’d make the rotation.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
And this will be the end of it.
Sorry, man, I screwed up. Will he get fired? Will they ask Selig to reconsidered the call? If so, what kind of can of worms does that open? What a fiasco!
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley has been freed!
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aaaand, I just saw the big discussion below.....
sorry.
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley has been freed!
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it's ok
it was heated and at times angry.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
The Kid retired 75 years, to the day, after Babe Ruth retired.
It was well beyond time for him to retire but I’m really sad to see him go. I hope he stays very very involved in baseball going forward.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
This
he was such a huge figure for me growing up – always will be one of my favorite players – also sad we aren’t talking more about him today….sigh…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
interesting fact
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
I just noticed the Alanna Rizzo bit in the headline and couldn't hold back a chuckle.
Thanks for that.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
On the radio on the way in they said
That the commissioner is meeting with his advisers to determine if they will reverse the call and award Galaragga with the PG and apparently there is precedence of this
Really? I had that thought but assumed there was no way it could happen.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
Exactly
This isn’t the same. In this case, the umpires reversed their own call on the field.
A perfect analogy would have been the umpires on the field last night changing the call to an out.
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I hope this does happen
it wasn’t a “questionable” call – it was flat out wrong – not even close…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
it's not the same though
fixing the error after the fact may put the game on the record books, but it won’t give Galarraga and his teammates the chance to celebrate on the field, it won’t give the fans the moment that was stolen from them.
Stand by your man.
It's not the same but it's better than not having the perfect game.
Gallaraga threw a perfect game and it deserves to be in the record books as one.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
He'll miss out on a wonderful night
But be able to celebrate it justly the rest of his life. Better to give back most of what’s stolen than nothing at all.
Galarraga knows he threw a perfect game, we all know he threw one
let’s leave it at that
Stand by your man.
then let's have the Mariners-Twins play an 11th inning before their next game, so that disputed call can go away
let’s take a win away from Atlanta and give it to us since that was obviously a double play ball.
It’s baseball, unfortunately, and without a replay system in place we have to live with the consequences. Selig should not open this Pandora’s Box and retroactively change every disputed ending days after the fact. It can’t happen.
Stand by your man.
by Muzia on Jun 3, 2010 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Nothing, I mean nothing, can really make up for Joyce’s blown call. But no, you can’t simply change baseball history. What do you do then, take away the records of the AB of the 28th guy?
No, this is a very dangerous precedent.
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Also - changing this call changes one thing and one thing only (apart from the extra out in the 28th man's stats)
It gives a deserving pitcher recognition for a feat of supreme excellence WITHOUT changing any results or affecting the efforts of any other player or team. THAT’s why it can be changed.
for purposes of this one game, it can be changed with no harm done
long term precedent causes irreversible damage though
Stand by your man.
By my reckoning that's a good thing
If this event is the catalyst to a carefully considered revision of the rules judging replays etc then I am all for it.
you are missing my point
I am 100% in favor of replay. I am 100% against reversing the official results of yesterday’s game.
If Armando Galarraga has to be a martyr, then so be it.
Stand by your man.
by Muzia on Jun 3, 2010 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure he's thrilled with that
I’m sure his bank manager is thrilled, and his agent.
“So, does your client have any special achievements that might justify a higher salary?”
“Um, well, he did throw… no. No, he doesn’t”
If we change this call....
Then shouldn’t we replay the ‘85 World Series? Replay last year’s playoff series between the Yanks/Twins…hell, any number of other games.
Heck, let’s replay our 9th inning against the Braves a few weeks back.
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What does reversing the call have to do with replaying anything?
I’m still not sure i’m for reversing it but nothing has to be replayed so why would it affect those situations?
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
My point being
In those games I refer to above, the actual outcome of the entire game (and the entire postseason) were affected by indisputably wrong umpire calls, beyond any doubt, reasonable or otherwise.
But in both cases, because of the horrifically bad calls, the other team won the game (because it wasn’t the very last play of the game). So to make history “right” (which is what proponents of reversing last night’s call are seeking), you have to go back to where the umpires completely screwed the pooch.
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It sets a precedent to fix things if an ump blows the final out of another perfect game.
The bad call is going to bring instant replay to baseball though, so we’ll have to live with those consequences probably.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
yes you take it away
made the game end after the 27th out. award the perfect game. simple as that
but it doesn't end there
it sets precedent that cannot be taken back or changed. Every single close call will cause petitions to be sent to the commissioner’s office, demanding it be reversed. You can’t do this.
Stand by your man.
i highly doubt that would happen
everyone knows this is an extremely special case and the fact that the call was so blatantly wrong screwing Galaragga out of the PG sets it apart from every other play that you have mentioned thus far.
What makes this such a special case?
I mean, sure, it would restore an amazing individual achievement, but if you change this now, then you have to go back and start changing all those game-ending play miscalls that actually resulted in a game outcome other than what should have been.
I really think that rewriting history just for the sake of elevating a personal achievement is just…wrong.
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But that's what makes it a special case.
Everyone agrees Gallaraga merited the PG; no-one would be harmed by awarding it to him. That’s why it works, and that’s why it can set the wheels in motion for much needed changes.
Because it still sets a bad and dangerous precedent
Where an umpire can be overruled after the conclusion of a game.
The wheels can be set in motion for much-needed changes just as well without opening that Pandora’s Box
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It doesn't change the result and it doesn't change anyone's line
That’s a pretty strong argument for no retrospective results changes.
so you want this to be a one-time thing?
overrule the Ump’s decision for a personal achievement, as long as everyone agrees to play nice and never ask for it again?
Impossible.
Stand by your man.
This change has nothing to do with the result of the game
Do I really have to keep repeating myself here? I am not suggesting some absolute mandate to question the umpires. It’s an ultra-specific precedent. And yes., I do think that if a pitcher loses a PG to an clear, provable error on the 27th out again, it should be overruled.
make sure to put onions on it?
I favor replay for plays like this, I’m not sure why a play on the basepaths is intrinsically different from a home run call, other than OMG!! DINGERZ!! and the HR being considered the most important play in baseball. I can even think a little bit fondly of the day when ball/strike calls will be made by a video system. My feelings are a little bit more mixed when it comes to retroactively applying video to a completed game where video did not apply under the rules during the game.
Just curious – how many times do you think Matt Holliday’s name has come up in the discussion of this over at GLB?? :)
Bad night for umpires last night. The first pick in next week’s draft probably finished out his college career last night with an ejection for his reaction to striking out on a called strike on a pitch that was a good foot outside, and a resulting two game suspension in the closing games of the national Juco tournament. Then seeing Joyce’s robbery of Galarraga. Rough night for the boys in blue all around…
by Junction Rox on Jun 3, 2010 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
difference is
the ump is like 3 feet away from the action, and arguably has the better view. Homers, not so much, the cameras can trump there easily.
I know that slow mo replay can say “wow missed that one” all the time, but sometimes it’s obstructed or something.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
It may not change the outcome of the game
but it’s a VERY slippery slope.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
A slope to more errors being avoided IN THE FUTURE.
Compare it to the PEDs issue if you like. Discoveries made AFTER the fact have a very real effect on the player and the player’s standing within the game. And, in some cases, whether they make it to the HOF or not. And the Hall is an honour which is meaningless in terms of results, but makes a big difference to the individual and to baseball as a whole.
I stand firmly against changing anything in the record books
make notes if you have to
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions
I more or less agree with that as well
but changing the record books is just not right in general. This is a case where it seems incredibly simple. What happens next time when it ISN’T incredibly simple?
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
It's dealt with on its own merits.
I’m not suggesting that a mistake by an umpire which changes the result of a game should be reversed afterwards, but this isn’t a precedent for that. Indeed it’s so beautifully clear, with no victims, no-one who needs to lose out for Gallaraga to win, that any other situation that might merit a further look is going to have to be TOTALLY obvious as well.
I'd personally rather not have history tainted by the controversy
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
And yet, no one's subtracting player's career HR totals
based on their association with PEDs. Sure, their numbers are “tainted”, but they aren’t being actually changed.
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The HOF example is my real point.
Mark McGwire won’t make it to the HOF. Armando Gallaraga does not have a perfect game.
Of course he won't make it to the HOF
But none of his HRs are coming off the books, either.
HOF election isn’t really relevant to the present situation.
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Oh it absolutely is
As the whole issue being discussed is whether or not a player is able to claim an honorific “title” for want of a better word.
Actually, the issue being discussed is...
…whether or not it is proper for the commissioner to go back and reverse an umpire’s call after it took place.
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That's an aspect of it
And if the result is “yes but only in the most exceptional of circumstances” then why would that make the game worse?
In my business, I negotiate deals for people. If I am obliged to make a deal that is below my perceived value of the service being provided, then I request that the deal become “non-precedential”. In this situation, no-one can come back at a later date and say “well you agreed x then so you havre to agree x now”.
I’d be perfectly happy for this to be declared non-precedential.
Because then it becomes...
….who gets to decide the amorphous and vague determination of what’s the “most exceptional of circumstances”?
That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Gallaraga’s perfect game is not more important than the integrity of the game of baseball.
And part of the game of baseball is that umpires are not always correct.
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Baseball would have more integrity if there were fewer errors, "part of baseball or not"
Bit of a circular argument this!
Then the answer is improving umpire's calls
Whether that’s via instant replay or otherwise. But it’s not unilaterally and arbitrarily reversing an umpire’s call after the fact just because you think it’s a special circumstance.
Hopefully, the best (and only) thing that comes out of this is something that results in far more accurate umpiring.
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by Mondogarage on Jun 3, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps umpires are already at their peak?
I mean, you wouldn’t find yourself thinking “Come on, Albert, man, can you really not try a bit harder and average .400 this season?”. Maybe umpires are already making as few errors as is humanly possible?
(NB this is tongue in cheek, for the most part)
Well, I would contend....
…that umpires since about forever have made untold blown calls, but that each one is infinitely more magnified today because of everything from HDTV, to Twitter, to the internet, hell…simply to TV coverage.
I think the real fundamental question is, now that technology has improved, is it time to fundamentally change the way baseball is officiated to account for technology.
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Agree x infinity!
Everyumpire is human and makes mistakes; MLB needs to clean house. Joyce is not the worst Ump in baseball and it’s sad he’s the posterchild for this one. That said I think the umpireing as a whole has been in serious decline for the last six years and makes me wonder if fixing is going on among some of them.
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final comment from me
For those who exalt the sanctity of the record books as written, you are too late:
“In 1991, a panel headed by then-commissioner Fay Vincent took a look at the record book and decided to throw out 50 no-hitters for various reasons.”
Link?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 3, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
i got this from an ESPN
front page article talking about the call and the clear precedent that already exists for the commissioner to change results of games. I have not confirmed its authenticity.
again, there is a difference
here we are trying to create a perfect game, not take one away. Much more difficult to do
Stand by your man.
how is it different?
you say the 27th batter of the game was out. seems much less controversial than taking away no hitters
if they are taking away no-hitters a century after the fact
because we are playing a completely separate game now, under separate rules, then that is merely refining the definition of “no-hitter”.
This is rewriting history.
Stand by your man.
was it based on inconsistent rules
and a completely different game than we play today?
Basically, were they all from like the 1800s?
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I have no idea
I haven’t researched it. And I don’t care to. Its quite clear that ample precedent exists for the relief at issue here. I’m sure there are more examples.
They made a stricter definition of a no-hitter
(had to be the entire game, not just nine innings as had previously been the case)
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Yeah, that's no re-writing history at all
That is fine
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 3, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
From Wikipedia
In 1991, Major League Baseball changed the definition of a no-hitter to “a game in which a pitcher or pitchers complete a game of nine innings or more without allowing a hit.”
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they said this on the radio show i was listening to as well
which i reference in my original post
It doesn't, but it blows the door open wide for this argument:
Well jeez, commish, if you’re willing to rewrite history and reverse the results just for an individual achievement, why aren’t you going to reverse (call x, y, z) when that blown call resulted in the wrong team winning?
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Because the results have to stand
Because a) they affect other players and teams and b) you can’t possibly know what would have happened afterwards if the mistake hadn’t been made.
It’s not a comparable situation. Though it could (and should) lead to the development of a system where the objective truth gets more of a look in, whether it’s with replays or electronic aids or whatever.
Development of replay, etc
That can certainly be the outcome here. I’ve pretty much been against replay for old stodgy reasons, and I’m not certain last night changes my opinion….but I can absolutely understand if last night results in a broad expansion of replay.
However, this will very likely be the result, and can result without the commissioner taking the unprecedented step of reversing last night’s call.
I mean, does anyone seriously think replay would only be given serious consideration if this specific call is changed retroactively?
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replay is coming no matter what happens with this PG situation
that is a separate issue here
Actually, the umpire mis-wrote history
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no, the umpire WROTE history
Nothing had been written up to that point.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Gallarag getting his glove to the ball and his foot to the plate before the batter
Was the moment of history. The umpire then changed history.
Not baseball history.
That is a dictation purely of the umpire. Every call and result you find in any baseball statistic is the result of an umpire’s decision. I really do think you’re underrating the extreme significance of even ONE exception to the rule here.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
If Teekalong's example is correct
Then changing the play isn’t precedent-setting but precedent-following, within the rules of the sport.
Case closed.
"the sport"
I need to see a link, but if we’re talking about the 7-balls-to-a-walk, catch-on-one-hop-is-still-an-out baseball, it’s not even the same game.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
I admit
that I know no more than what I posted. But that’s precedent, regardless of technicalities.
It's not actually precedent if it's not applicable
Which is why seeing a link or what not is important.
If it’s, say, changing the no hitters because they were all five inning games that were stopped by rain, and baseball saying all no hitters have to be nine innings, then Vincent’s ruling isn’t even the least bit relevant.
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seems to have been
all about whether the pitcher pitched a full 9 innings or not. Admittedly quite contextually different. But the theory is the same: commissioner making choices that impact only one thing: whether or not a player is credited with a particular accomplishment or not…
But it does not involve....
….the commissioner actually reversing the field umpire’s call. And that distinction is the overriding factor.
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no, it isn't
The umpire has to call him safe or out for anything to happen.
Galarraga caught the ball and touched the bag ahead of Jason Donald.
The Umpire called him safe.
Dang.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
There's a difference between history and historiography
Personally I prefer reality over one person’s interpretation of reality.
If the umpire calls a guy "safe"
I mark on my scorecard that he reached whatever base safely.
If the umpire calls a guy “out” I mark on my scorecard the fielders who were involved in making the out.
That is how baseball is played.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Let's say the US had decided not to declare war on Japan. Does that mean Pearl Harbour didn't happen?
You’re confusing what happened (Gallaraga doing the things necessary to achieve an out) with the way these things were interpreted within the context of the game (runner was called safe).
Sentimentally
Galarraga pitched a perfect game. Joyce absolutely butchered the call.
But it was the call.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions
There are no officiators of wars.
At least not in the sense of the umpires of baseball. It’s not up to some judge or referee to declare an act of war an act of war.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
You, and the league.
And it’s been that way for every play, ever.
Baseball results and history are not “what actually happened”, they’re “what the umpire says happened”.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
there's a reason unpires are called "Officials"
what they say is what happened. Donald was safe.
Stand by your man.
possibly
the dumbest comment in this thread. Or, we could have just started here and we have no argument. (And your examples of Braves and Mariners games wash away).
I don't really want to go any farther here
nothing constructive can develop.
Oh well, at least this thread is not about unicorns or hot dogs or whether or not onions taste good. Small victories.
much as I'm enjoying personal attacks
tone it down.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
No personal attack intended
simply a comment on a comment. That said, apologies. Don’t Redhawk me.
Wouldn't it be called Redborked?
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why do you have to go back to the others?
i certainly dont think that. this is a special case which demands special circustances
Why is this a more special case than, say, Denkinger's call in the 85 World Series?
Hell, that changed the outcome of an entire championship.
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I don’t think that’s equivalent. That was the first out of the ninth inning… well, would have been. And it was Game 6. The Cardinals lost their composure, Andujar got lit up and acted like a seven-year old in Game 7. That’s why they didn’t win the title that year. Denkinger’s call was just a spark, not an A-bomb dropped on the Cardinals chances.
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if after the blown call, something actually happened
such as another hit, walk, anything else that would have blown the PG happened I would be in total agreement and not call for this to be overturned. of if this happened like in 85 on the first out of the inning.
But its exactly like biondino said, the very next play was an easy ground out and overturning this call would have no impact whatsoever on the outcome.
Every bad call? Maybe not.
But more than I think you acknowledge. This is definitely a catalyst for more than just “when a perfect game is blown” thing. First it’ll be a playoff game where an important out call is blown. Next season, it’ll start when a regular game is blown due to an umpire’s mistake, which certainly happens to most teams at least once a season. Then it’ll spread, and before you know it, every team will EXPECT this to be able to happen to them too, logical or not.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
It'll be irrelevant either way since we'll get instant replay from this.
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we'd better
It seems that once MLB squashed the idea of replay on play-to-play stuff, the umps got cocky and suddenly started blowing games left and right
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
I was completely against instant replay until last night.
I’m coming around very very quickly. As long as it’s like Hockey and not Football I think I can deal with it if we get the right calls more often.
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this
I was very much against it until now. The technology is there – this should have never happened – history was made – this kid had the game of is life – but it is all for nothing.
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I'd be inclined to agree
especially since Joyce was saying Tigers players saw the replay in the clubhouse and then ran out to tell him he screwed up. It wouldn’t have taken long
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 3, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
and if it was like the NHL, you wouldn't even need to hire a slew of new umpires to sit in a booth
you just have an office in League headquarters with an ump that reviews controversial plays and quickly relays his decision to the stadium
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Exactly this.
If we get replay it has to be this version. No stopping everything so everyone can review things. Relay corrections through headphones if needed, should cause nearly no delays (except managers flipping out constantly).
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Even easier, we have the ability to simply display replace instantaneously after they're captured.
Give the ump a little screen somewhere, even on his person, where he can navigate the even frame by frame within ten seconds of the occurrence.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
The umps on the field should have no screen.
It should be an ump in a booth doing any necessary reviews as plays happen.
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What differences does it make, other than a slower process?
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
The game does not need to be made any slower.
Giving managers a flag to throw and/or screens for umps to stop and go watch will be horrible. It’s about making the right calls and an ump in a booth can do that without delays.
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I never said anything about managers with flags... can't say get what you're hinting at there.
I wouldn’t have too much of an issue with a fifth umpire. I just think it’d be just fine if they had a little watch monitor where every play was instantly viewable form every angle. I wasn’t suggesting a football style television thingie, or whatever those things are called.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
I just mean managers don't need any way to start a review.
Expanding the current review method where everything stops and they leave the field to review would not be acceptable to me. Any other alternatives that result in no significant delays would be fine though.
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Uh, see my post below
“2. Managers, coaches and players have zero or very limited challenges.”
As I clarified above, I don’t sup[port that either. I am referring to something that can be accessed directly from the umpire himself.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
I've always been in favor of instant replay as long as the following conditions are incurred:
1. No instant replay on balls and strikes.
2. Managers, coaches and players have zero or very limited challenges.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Those are different than the final out of a perfect game.
I’m conflicted about reversing anything but this is obviously a special case. If the bad call was made in the 7th or 8th I would no doubt say you can’t change it. That was the last out though.
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so was the Mariners one, so was the Rockies/Braves one
in fact, let’s go ahead and take back the 1908 World Series from the Chicago Cubs, since they obviously didn’t deserve to be there
Stand by your man.
And therein lies exactly the problem.
This is an example of the “if we change the rules one time, we’ll be expected to any other time” quandary that teachers and parents always warn about when they try not to play favorites.
Galarraga got his perfect game… so we’ll just petition Bud to right all the wrong calls for us too.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
WHen it comes to the outcome of baseball, that's exactly what they are.
As I explained above: every single outcome in the history of baseball has been what an umpire says it is, not what it actually was based upon the true outcome dictated by the rules. I’m not discounting that there is a difference, but one is official, and one is not.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
In my experience as a teacher & parent
respect is maintained, in part, by fixing obvious mistakes in a fair and consistent way.
Maybe that’s more of an argument for replay, though.
it is more of an argument for replay
so that way it becomes more objective.
Everyone feels awful about this because it made Joyce and Galarraga nearly cry and it was a PG.
If it had been Cowboy Joe West and he’d been a complete dick about it or something, this entire debate might have an entirely different feel to it.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
"Yes sir I know there's proof you didn't commit this murder"
But I’m afraid we have to hang you anyway, you see, the judge condemned you to death and it’d set all sorts of nasty precedents if we changed the ruling now"
but there is already a system of appeals in place
here, there is none and you want one anyway
Stand by your man.
there is a system
in baseball the commissioner has an reserved right to take any action that is in the best interests of baseball. this would certainly apply here
I was trying to avoid judicial type examples
because I sincerely want to keep things like Real Life and Baseball separate.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
All I can say
is that if anyone doesn’t support overturning the call, then I don’t want to hear that person wax on about how special Uball’s no hitter was, or anything similar.
A PG/no-no is a historic event, or it is not. If it is, and it has intrinsic value, the resolution is obvious. If its just another stat, then…well…
I don't think it should be overturned.
If you think Selig should reverse Joyce’s call, please provide a list of all parts of baseball history you’d like him to rewrite.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
any that are clearly wrong and easily fixable.
tons of wrongs added together don’t somehow make a right.
nobody said it was right.
To put it simply and brusquely, shit happens (if you’ll pardon my language). It’s part of the game, it’s always been a part of the game, and we just have to learn to live with it.
Armando Galarraga, who none of us cared about until about 16 hours ago, can have his special place in our hearts or whatever. We know he pitched perfectly, and I’m sure Wikipedia will document the events that made it a near miss.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow, Wikipedia is supposed to make it all OK? The same source that said that Jim Joyce was dead yesterday, the same source that credited a female tennis player’s popularity to her ‘gigantic bazooms’… that’s what’s going to make what Galarraga did special?
(I know that’s not really your argument but I wanted to type ‘gigantic bazooms’)
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Considering the Wikipedia reference, this Deadspin article is rather timely, and hilarious.
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ok fine
if that’s your view. But again, don’t want to hear any stuff about Uball’s no-no or other such events from you or your ilk. Things matter, or they don’t. To you, they don’t. Entitled to your position, even if it is patently ridiculous.
Ubaldo Jimenez walked 6 guys
allowed no hits
and is awesome
I thought it was pretty exciting that he tossed a nono. First in franchise history. It was awesome.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Ok
I’m done. No reason for further argument/discussion here. I’d probably rather talk about how Jeff Francis scares the hell out of me anyway.
Had an umpire blown a call in Ubaldo's nono that took it away
it’d be forever known to me as “The Nono by Ubaldo that was blown by an umpire’s miserable call”
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm ok with calling this
“The PG by AG that was blown by an umpire’s miserable call”
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
This has been tried hundreds of times
And has always failed. For example, Derek Jeter’s 1996 home run. The call was argued after the game by Baltimore. The umpire admitted his mistake. And Selig denied it because judgment calls can not be overturned.
Yes, this is an even closer parallel, because didn't that home run *end the game*?
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No, I think it was the 8th inning
But it clearly changed the outcome of the game, and was an admitted mistake by the ump.
Wow, I thought about that earlier but figured it would be too difficult to over-turn.
^Muzia points out the real negative if this was to happen.
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Should Armando Galarraga be retroactively rewarded a perfect game?
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Official scorer
I wonder what would have happened if the official scorer in DET ruled the play an error to preserve a no-hitter. What’s Selig going to say? “You’re wrong, change that to a hit?”
(Yes, I realize that there is no actual basis for an error on the play).
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actually, there is discussion of this happening
Galarraga did appear to bobble the ball at 1B
Stand by your man.
Change to error?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t an error erase the perfect game? It would be a no-hitter rather instead, right?
This I can get on board with
Official scorers have long held the ability to change a scoring decision. That is entirely different from reversing an umpire’s call.
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I think that is far worse.
It wasn’t an error, it was an out. Pretending that it was taints things even more.
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Well, there's that whole "ball moving around in his glove" bit
I’m not suggesting for one second that the batter was actually safe. What I’m saying is that the play itself was possibly….just possibly….just barely possibly, clumsily made enough that the play could reasonably called an error.
And that doesn’t require any change in precedent whatsoever.
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It wasn't an error and the scorer shouldn't call it one just to make the pitcher look better.
It was a perfect game with a botched final out call and should be left at that (or righted into a perfect game). Tweaking the scoring to make a no-hitter would add a level of ugliness in my opinion.
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Not happening.
Chuck Klonke, the official scorer Wednesday night with nearly three decades of experience, said he would not change the disputed play to an error from a hit to give Galarraga a no-hitter.
“I looked at the replay right after it happened, and Miguel Cabrera made a good throw and Galarraga didn’t miss the bag so you couldn’t do anything but call it a hit,” Klonke said Thursday morning. “I watched the replay from the center-field camera, which some people thought showed Galarraga might’ve bobbled the ball, and I didn’t see it that way at all. I have 24 hours to change a call, but I wouldn’t consider it. End of story.”
Just saw this in the DP
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HA
I’m sure Bud will make the right call – he always does….
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taking Wise's spot in AAA, ironically enough
the man who saved Buerhle’s perfect game last year
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wow
good luck to Philly. They are really having problems right now (outside Halladay)
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JFK
Found this pretty interesting...
If Roy would have won the NL Pitcher of the Month, I think he would have won it for the perfect game alone. There were 3 other pitchers with stellar Mays (besides Ubaldo and Roy).
From article about Ubaldo winning NL PotM on coloradorockies.com:
Pitchers who received support included Philadelphia’s Roy Halladay (3-2, 2.15 ERA, including the 20th perfect game in MLB history); the Reds’ Johnny Cueto (4-0, 1.59 ERA, 37 strikeouts); the Braves’ Tim Hudson (4-0, 1.59 ERA, 39 2/3 innings pitched); and the Padres’ Mat Latos (4-1, 1.54 ERA, 37 strikeouts).
I got nothing.
I wrote that in the story for Jimenez' pitcher of the month yesterday
but Jeff ninja’d me so I never posted it. But yeah.
Latos and Cueto were each one single away from a perfect game. And the hit off Latos’ was an infield single to the pitcher.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 3, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions
those are some nice months of may right there
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Rocco Baldelli would come down with another absurdly rare condition
that makes him as brittle as balsa wood
and be out for ..uh.. 2 seasons!
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions
YIKES!
I feel for the guy – I’m glad he owned up to his mistake – but I worry that some idiot will do something to him..
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Especially with the freakishly low safety enforcement in ballparks.
I’m surprised we don’t see more dangerous weapons smuggled into stadiums.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, going to be a fun day for him.
I actually feel bad for him, he was on the verge of tears talking about it.
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Chevrolet is giving Galarraga a brand new Corvette on the field today
recognizing his “excellence on the field and for his professionalism & sportsmanship.”
Stand by your man.
Breaking News: Armando Galarraga is wanted in a hit and run involving James Joyce.
Seriously, that’s nice & he deserves it (well he deserves a good car but that works).
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I wouldn't pass up a cherry red Corvette
especially if I was on the brink of being sent down to AAA, like he was last week
Stand by your man.
My dad just bought a 2010 Corvette
Sooooo much fun to drive….he will love it!
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haha Galarraga has already basically said
“Dude, it sucks, but you made a mistake, I won’t hold it against you”
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
actually, Jim Leyland had Galarraga take the lineup card to Joyce
this is turning into a great little story
Stand by your man.
The story about this on ESPN.com nearly made me cry.
They’ve all handled this so well after the fact. Apparently Joyce was practically in tears when he apologized after the game, and was still emotional when Galarraga delivered the lineup card.
I really don't know how he can go out there and call a game of any kind after yesterday
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
He probably shouldn't.
Give it a day.
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Apparently MLB gave him the option of not working today, but he chose to go back out there.
And apparently his wife and kids have been getting crap.
People need
to stop going after kids/spouses just makes me sick….
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oh now that is stupid re: his wife and kid.
this might be worse than Steve Bartman and the 2nd baseman all those years ago that made the play the ended the world series. What was that guys name?
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it was the NLCS
Moises Alou was going for a foul ball
Bartman grabbed it
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
And it wasn’t the play that ended the WS. It was a play that would have ended an inning in an NLCS game. Not his fault the Cubs couldn’t do anything right after that.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
God, I cannot speak/type today!
I meant the guy from the WS back in the 30s or 40s….
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Here's the article I was referring to:
This line did make me laugh a little:
“You don’t see an umpire after the game come out and say, ‘Hey, let me tell you I’m sorry,’ " Galarraga said. “He felt really bad. He didn’t even shower.”
Bryce Harper ejected from the game last night
his college career is likely over, as he will be suspended for two games
Stand by your man.
He's a bad person and should be avoided in the draft until the Rockies pick.
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This.
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Issue a memo to every GM picking before the Rockies. He’s a bad apple. A bad seed. A menace to society. A younger Eric Byrnes.
by Junction Rox on Jun 3, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Crazy
I’m not sure that is a strike – and didn’t deserve the ejection….
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it definitely wasn't a strike
but it looks like he intentionally hit dirt towards the ump. You can’t do that.
Stand by your man.
I'm not sold
on him hitting dirt towards the ump….but lets not start another thing like above down here ;)
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It was not a strike
I was at the game (as mentioned above, before I saw the discussion of it down here). It was not even close to a strike. And what Harper did was draw a line with his bat where the ball passed through the opposite batter’s box. The umpire immediately ejected him for “showing him up”.
What Harper did was dumb and immature, no doubt. But I can also tell you at least 3 players had already thrown their bats leaving the plate after striking out on similar bad calls. They definitely showed up the umpire, while what Harper did was actually really hard to even see from the stands. Also, you can see a bit of the umpire’s act on the video. He is one of these guys who dances around like Enrico Palazzo behind the plate on every strikeout call. (The one in the video is actually a bit restrained). To me, if you want to do that an show up players, you need to have a higher level of tolerance for when a player is “showing you up”. Especially in what was essentially a national semifinal game. At last Jim Joyce had the decency to face the press after his abysmal mistake last night. Don Gilmore ended the game with a called third strike at the shoulders to one of Harper’s teammates with the tying run on base, then ran for cover.
Harper was foolish, but as usual, things do not happen in a vacuum.
by Junction Rox on Jun 3, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
This post brought to you by the letters t,y,p and o
Unfortunately, the words an and and are not interchangeable. Nor are the words last and least…
by Junction Rox on Jun 3, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
It's not even
noon for you.
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it's noon somewhere..
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Yes, but
10:44am is not the time to be drinking.
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unless the World Cup is on. Youcanhave to drink at 8am if you want to forget you’re watching soccer
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by Franchise26 on Jun 3, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
after that exhausting, but fascinating, debate, we all deserve a drink and a baseball game
Stand by your man.
There is no game today - I am crestfallen
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I want to get after Kennedy and get back to 4 games over .500
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Don’t see how it can be Buckner when he’s a Detroit Tiger. I think it’s going to be Kennedy-Willis-Lopez.
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see you shouldnt do this
now that we’re back to the top of the thread we are going to have that huge debate again
God
I love this website….
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I think we should just name Rockies off days
as Crestfallen Day. Who’s with me?
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by SDcat09 on Jun 3, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't vote right now. Too emotional
I am crestfallen.
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by Mondogarage on Jun 3, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, I can wish everyone Happy Crestfallen Day! YAY
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precisely
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what would the proper salutation be then?
Happy Unhappy Crestfallen Day?
(and why does this make me think of Henry V and St.Crispin’s Day?)
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That's racist.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
I was called an oxymoron on MCC the other day.
I rather chuckled. And thought about explaining why that couldn’t be true. Then I remember most of my audience.
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MCC shall be known as "that which shall not be named"
At least until the next Gints series.
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It's quarter to 6 here!
Though if I had beerz my ramblings on this thread would just become exaggerated, and no-one wants that.
I'd start saying things like
“Matt, dude, I thought we were FRIENDS and now you pull this “don’t screw with the reality of baseball” line and woooo we’ll all end up in baseball wormholes watching CY Young pitch to Derek Jeter’s great-great-granddaughter" and it’ll all get rather messy.
Also, I am much worse at mlb 2k10 when I've had a few
And since my call-up to the Rockies a few games ago I’ve been hitting .156 or something.
and I'll say you didnt even know what baseball WAS, man, like not at all
cuz’ you’re a crazy Brit/Italian/French guy thing who sends me weird chocolate bars in the mail
Stand by your man.
Omg now you have made the weird chocolate bars precedent public
And now everyone will be requesting weird chocolate bars. THAT’s why you should leave things be!
Well I'm going to Wales
So I guess that’s a tie.
(actually I am going to Wales to watch my first ever rugby match!)
Wales >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rural Kansas
Your first Welsh rugby match, or your first ever rugby match.
I’ll never forget the Varsity Match and the Barbos vs NZ matches I attended at Twickenham back in the late 80s. Amazing stuff
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My first ever (professional) rugby match
Wales vs South Africa, the reigning World Champs. SA will destroy the Welsh, probably, but it’ll be a good day out.
Have fun!
Rugby is a beautiful game. Elegant Violence.
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Where in rural KS?
Just got back from visiting the wife’s family there. Such a boring drive.
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Pittsburgh
friend’s wedding.
Flying to KC tonight, driving down for bachelor party. Wedding Saturday afternoon. Driving back all day Sunday
Stand by your man.
I'm banning myself
from talking about food – apparently this offends many people.
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It doesn't offend me...
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Haven't had one of those in a while.
Looking forward to it.
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Do it as
a front page post and use the “Rockies Farm Report” section.
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Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!
Diplomatic and Military History Book Review - My other blog where I go all historical on you.
It's not really just about the farm. I'm discussing the major leaguers as well.
But if you want me to front page it simply as a fanshot, I can do that.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
just write an article
use Misc or Rockies Farm Report because the major league provides context to the farm
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
You're on staff now!
Start acting like it!
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
DO IT
Put on your blogger hat! Get to work!
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
But this thing may not be finished until tomorrow, especially considering I have a rockpile to write tonight.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
You write your rockpiles the night before...how cute!
I definitely write whatever comes into my head at 7am the morning of.
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I sleep in until like noon.
I’m not waking up that early to write! Unless it’s a script based off of a dream I had or something.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I tried doing that, and they were far more absurd
but then I started doing a gym in the morning and that just all went to crap
so it’s write the “content” if you can call it that and then fill news and stuff in when I get to work all sweaty and stuff
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Gym? What's a gym?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
perfect use
I’m still laughing at this…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
eh, not nearly as funny in print.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I would kind of imagine it’s like the dentist/flossing.
when you go to the dentist, and you say “I’m going to floss every day between now and the next appointment.”
And then six months go by “oh crap I forgot!”
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
and you floss 4 times a day for the week before your appt.
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show up with gum lacerations so deep you need stitches
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
For those wondering
yes, we do all have hats. Think the old timey “Press” hats but the press pass is much longer and doesn’t say press pass, it says “Blogger”
like that. Only “Blogger”.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Shouldn't this really be a sideways positioned baseball cap?
Or a backwards baseball cap, or a beanie?
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I wear my baseball cap frontwards and brimmed :-(
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
thank you
most people look like idiots with backwards/side ways hats…
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Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
I'll do backwards SOMETIMES
but that’s usually only in windy times.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
I was just making a joke about
Gen X/Y/Z nerderific bloggers.
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my favorite
nerd blogger…
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Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
I like nerd bloggers who wear beanies.
or backwards caps. Sideways not so much. I didn’t mean it as an insulting joke. Sorry…SDcat fail
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(I'm not insulted)
(come on, you know better than that)
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I didn't mean just you.
Ugh…I can’t even properly explain what my humor was on that one. sigh…I’m really off today. Its been a bad morning.
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it was kind of funny
picturing someone like Sky Kalkman with a propeller beanie on and a red-and-yellow striped tshirt, typing away
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Thing is..
that is totally not what I meant. I was picturing a 20 something with a Rockies beanie, in a nice flat downtown on his/her IMac or Iphone happily deconstructing the Rockies and life…
seriously
yours is funnier though
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yeah me too
screw my picture I want cat’s
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I want my picture too...
wait what?
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Psh.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
by phishbate on Jun 3, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to say
If your name is not “ken griffey jr.” turn your hat around you look like an idiot…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
See what I said above...
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
todd
is awesome whatever is on his head is a-o-k with Maria :)
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
This should always be done and is in vogue
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bloggers never play baseball
or watch at the park
or own gloves
so it’s moot
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions
And a mother to warm hot pockets.
And this ashtray.
And this paddle ball.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
The ashtray, the paddle ball,
and this remote control. That’s all I need.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
And these matches.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't need my dog.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
The ashtray, paddle game, the remote control,
and this lamp. That’s all I need.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
And the chair.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
To be clear, he's not dead.
Only his comedic timing.
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is more funny now than ever.
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what???
His last album was really good though…especially the song with Dolly Parton singing…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Hey, I'm a bigger Martin fan than most...
but there’s no way he’s still as funny as he was in the Jerk.
Or the entire 1980s for that matter.
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I'm gonna have to completely disagree here
since he turned into LOL FAMLEE PIKTURES in the 90s, he just ceased being hilarious.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
addendum
Bowfinger is an underrated film
Stand by your man.
by Muzia on Jun 3, 2010 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Re bowfinger
couldn’t agree more. unreal how good that movie is, across the board. that line “Alien love!” was all I could think about during Avatar, almost ruined the movie for me.
I didn't say his movie choices
were better. But his work on SNL, and his standup…yeah better.
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that was in like hte 70s though wasn't it
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
what?
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wasn't his SNL work and Standup in the 70s?
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions
not altogether..
he’s been making some SNL appearances this year and some standup. Plus his banjo album rocks.
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LOL . Funyuns!!
I prefer Cheetos or pretzels
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This makes me sad
And all this time since of been playing on PR, my brother-in-law as been calling me Bloggette….
/crestfallen
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but you don't
actually blog…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
I was joking.
Because my family thinks I post here, that I’m now a blogger…it’s pretty funny.
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My folks still have dial up
I don’t think they even know what a blog is….
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
well, if we put all your comments together
we may get the equivalent of RMN’s Monday Rockpile
Stand by your man.
by Muzia on Jun 3, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL...now that's funny
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HEY YOU KNOW WHAT
I put work into that
I enjoyed writing it.
why you gotta make me feel all bad
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
crestfallen alert
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He's got 99 problems...
…and his hat is one
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SNES
is awesome…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
When I see vidjya
I think of Star Trek: Teh Movie with
V-jer
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I, of course, had the exact same thought.
Did you just use “teh” in a sentence intentionally? Or is that a typo. I never took you for a 13373r.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions
typo
what is a13373r?
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I still don't understand the reference
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well isn't that all of us,
at one time or another… or do you mean IRL?
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ahhh....I see.
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It evolved from the second lowest tier of cockroaches of internet gaming.
The lowest being 12 year olds with a mic.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I feel old now
that he is officially done with baseball…
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Oh jeebus
Yes there exceptions to the rule…this is a special case and upon further review – i retract my statemtn…sigh…
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Co-president of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Hey,
does anyone know when the Rockies are scheduled to have their perfect game this season?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
never, bud selig has specifically ordered the umpires to not allow anymore perfect games this year
oh wait nevermind this isnt the NBA
Game 7 would make it all the more epic.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
hm...yes.
I just don’t like admitting that we might lose 3 times.
by Andrew Martin on Jun 3, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
let's see..
one @ Oakland
one @ Miami
one @Detroit.
Probably in a crappy city and no one will see it.
Stand by your man.
Well, the league has set a policy
that all perfect games must be completed against Florida teams, so when do we play them next.
Austin Jackson just made the exact same catch as last night
this time to right center field.
Stand by your man.
also, David Huff is the starting pitcher for the Indians
one week after getting drilled by the A-Rod line drive.
Stand by your man.
It takes more than a line drive to the head to stop the mighty David Huff.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
His nickname should be the Big Bad Wolf.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
annnnnnd Carlos Guillen hits a 2 run double
he should have picked the straw house, not the brick one
Stand by your man.
Isn't Aubrey Huff the Big Bad Wolf?
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Aubrey Huff isn't about to blow anything down.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Except the Rockies :(
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"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 3, 2010 12:03 PM MDT reply actions
Well off to lunch and some shopping with Mom..
catch you all later on Cresfallen Day afternoon.
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I haven't seen much discussion of the draft.
What do some of you who are more familiar with the draft class expect/want the team to choose in the first round or two? I’ve seen a couple mock drafts but it almost seems like a crapshoot beyond the first couple of picks.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
Hiding down here, I will put in my two cents.
As difficult as that was to watch last night, I have to say that I don’t think it should be changed. I want Galarraga to have all the honor he deserves, don’t get me wrong. But you change this - yes, this is a very exceptional circumstance. But it’s like Congress being able to regulate what roads are built because of the commerce clause, or like in the Supreme Court when they make one ruling, setting a precedent that never remains static, but is challenged all the time. I do not think it is reasonable to expect that all teams will think, oh, this is just for the 27th out of a perfect game, Selig will never change the ruling again. Once there is a crack in the door, I can’t imagine the number of requests to change calls that could have affected/did affect the makeup of the game.
With that said, yes, I think instant replay should be used more. But I just can’t make myself support changing the game to a perfecto. We’ve learned a lot about the professionalism and makeup of two incredibly strong individuals, and that is, in many ways, a good thing. I don’t know – obviously, if I did I’d be rich — if the changed ruling would indeed open the proverbial Pandora’s Box, but I can easily see it happening, and it scares me.
www.twitter.com/owtsproductions
Also, Carlos Gonzalez is still a sexy man.
Perhaps
and I’m the first to admit the logic could easily be faulty. I’m just looking at it as if I were a player/manager/exec for another team who has been robbed by a blown call; I look at the precedent, I see it has happened before, and if I truly believe that the makeup of my season has been fundamentally changed by the game, or if I was cost a win by a blown call, I go to Selig. I see there is a crack in the door, I will try to open it.
That’s all.
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Also, Carlos Gonzalez is still a sexy man.
This is mostly what I've been saying all morning
maybe I should have made longer paragraphs
Stand by your man.
Selig will not reverse the call (but will look into extending replay).
Fine by me.
"Because I am a Rockie." - Todd
BtB's next installment up....players 21-30
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/6/3/1499538/btbs-50-best-of-the-next-5-years
No Rockies in this batch.
It’s funny to see guys like Asdrubal Cabrera rated higher than Roy Halladayy
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 3, 2010 1:18 PM MDT reply actions
You still in here Muzia?
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep, so ticket master math
means two tickets would run you about $80.
They'll play what I tell them to play...for I am the mayor of Albuquerque!
by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
but it's not until October, so that $80 is like spending $30 today
you know, with inflation and stuff
Stand by your man.
So you’re saying that people who buy tickets now are suckers, because dollars will be worth less in the future?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I was pretty much The National-ignorant until High Violet
My loss. They are soooo damn awesome.
Oh yeah, EAOD did used to cover “Abel” on occasion, and that rocked, too.
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Jim Tracy will be on the SVP show tomorrow to talk about Ubaldo.
Over/under on number of times “special” is used?
Do you think if Jim Tracy was on a home improvement show
He would use “spatial” a lot?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 3, 2010 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wish more of eee ssssss peee eh-n were done in pantomime
With the brightness on the TV totally turned to the left.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
ZING!
I finally understand why we have to have Woody Paige in town. It’s nature’s way of evening the field in contrast to the greatness of Renck. Unfortunately, the field is still tilted the wrong way, because Kiszla’s still around.
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SVP is also on ESPN2..
Just like Mike&Mike.
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by Charlie77 on Jun 3, 2010 4:00 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
neither...the word is VERY
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With a heavy heart..
I found out last night that a kid I went to church with in San Diego was killed in Afghanistan over the weekend. I didn’t know 18 yr old Jake Unthank that well, except he was the only child of his parents. His Marine unit had only been in Afghanistan for 1 1/2 weeks.
I’m so grateful my brother IL came back this month. But it shows how dangerous that place still is. I am going to keep his family in my prayers for awhile.
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by Charlie77 on Jun 3, 2010 2:10 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
This is so sad
No matter how long this goes on, you never really inure yourself to such stories. My heart goes out to his family.
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whew
for Alanna avoiding the DL…and wooohooo for Ace Baldo
TULO = 2010 MVP!
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Just got tickets to see Ubaldo next week!
I’m so excited!!!
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
I just went through the schedule to see if Ubaldo would be pitching in one of the game here in SF in August.
And nope, it doesn’t look like it (assuming he pitches every 5th game, not every 5th day, which they haven’t been doing). I’m bummed. I won’t get to see him in person this year.
Too early to make that assumption.
The All Star Break will change things up, especially if he pitches in the game.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions
And even if he pitches in the game, the 1st game isn't until Friday.
I think throwing a couple innings would fit in with his normal throwing schedule.
Maybe, but a lot of teams givbe their starts 3, even the full 4 days off after pitching in the game.
It’s a possibility.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions
True.
His schedule does work out pretty well for the All-Star game. His last start is a couple games before the break, and then with the next game 3 games after the game, they could conceivably start him next. I did check, though, and if he instead goes in the 2nd or even 3rd game after the break, that would push his starts back and he would pitch in one of the games in SF. So I guess I’m hoping for that!
Though otherwise he goes against the Dodgers, which might be better for us. Who knows what the standings will look then.
welp you never know.
If we have to plan SF in the playoffs, you might have an opportunity.
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If any of you haven't seen this:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=8633629
Galarraga delivered the Tigers lineup card to Jim Joyce today. It’s a good moment between the two, and even though Jim Joyce looks absolutely devastated, Galarraga looks more than ready to move on. It made me feel a lot better about the situation.
Also, it's clear to me that while Joyce made a horrible mistake, he's one of the good guys.
When you have guys like Joe West or others in the news recently for ejecting guys unfairly, deliberately making themselves part of the story, etc., a guy like Jim Joyce, who from all reports has always been well-respected by the players and has been a very good umpire over his career, deserves to stick around.
How many of the umpires would have handled this the way he has? How many would have felt as horrible as he clearly does? I’m sure many of them, but probably not many others.
Also, a huge part of this is also how Galarraga has handled it.
I think the way Armando has handled it and how he’s treated Joyce, has really helped smooth things over.
Yes.
I just watched Galarraga’s post-game reaction from the locker room, just an hour or so at most after the game.
What’d he have to say? Everyone’s human, he holds no hard feelings, and it just gives him more confidence to do it again in the future. It would have been VERY easy to be furious right then, even to a fair extent. I don’t think anyone would have blamed Galarraga for being upset. But he wasn’t. It’s really good to see.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions
I mean, imagining what could have happened if either the umpire or the pitcher had been different.... eugh. Ugly.
by Greg Stanwood on Jun 3, 2010 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions
There would be a lot less hate in this world if we followed the example of those two.
The way Galarraga and Joyce handled themselves is an example of what’s right in the world. If you make a mistake, admit it. Then the offending party accepts it and moves on.
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