Rockies 2010 Draft Signing Diary (now updated)
by Rox Girl on Aug 11, 2010 1:25 PM MDT
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PrintI'm going to do it a little bit different this year and instead of just a straight list, categorize the picks according to their current likelihood to sign. This post will be continually updated as information arises, so if you don't see a draft pick listed, it's because I haven't gotten to them yet.
Signed:
- Kyle Parker (1) - There is zero indication in his post-draft comments that not signing's a serious option. Here's more:
Parker was asked repeatedly if football even figures into the equation at this point, and he sounded like someone who really wants to just try baseball.
"It's tough to say, but the biggest thing is I came to college and wanted to play a professional sport," Parker said. "If I ended up focusing on just one, I would be happy. I pretty much just have to sit down and figure all of that out."
- Peter Tago (1s) - Wanted to sign right away, but didn't.
- Chad Bettis (2) - per Tracy Ringolsby. Bettis will report to Tri-City.
- Russell Wilson (4) - Also from Ringolsby. Wilson will also continue playing at NC State.
- Josh Rutledge (3)
- Josh Slaats (5) - We're getting lots of print evidence that Slaats has already signed.
- Jared Simon (6) - read his reaction here
- Kraig Sitton (7)
- Corey Dickerson (8) - according to this article, Dickerson signed an above slot deal. Big props to SDN Bulldog blog. btw for keeping up on the story.
- Geoff Parker (9)
- Brett Tanos (10) - according to Baseball America's Draft Database
- Matt Crocker (12)
- Josh Mueller (13) - according to this report.
- Taylor Reid (14)
- Will Swanner (15) He's the highest profile HS pick the Rockies will sign until Tago or possibly Rosado come aboard, it took a $490,000 bonus to lure the catcher away from a Pepperdine commitment.
- Jayson Langfels (16) - His coach seems to expect him to go pro. Now we also can read it from Langfels himself:
"(Christian Friedrich) called me and congratulated me and talked to me a little bit," Langfels said. "He's really excited and I'm really excited. I feel really comfortable knowing that I can talk to someone who has been through system."
- Ryan Casteel (17) - as linked here.
- Juan Perez (18)
- Blake McDade (20) "I'm definitely going to sign"
- Mark Tracy (22)
- Bruce Kern (23)
- Christian Bergman (24)
- Kenneth Roberts (25)
- Blake Keitzman (27)
- Robert Brewer (31)
- Jordan Ballard (34)
Did not sign (to the best of our knowledge):
- Hommy Rosado (11) anonymous message board chatter that has a ring of truth to it says that he purportedly turned down a $600,000 bonus offer, as he's seeking seven digits. He'd be smart to sign for that, given his scouting reports, I hope he comes to his senses. UPDATE: Rosado's still mulling it over and it's seeming more likely that he accepts the Rockies offer at this point.
Note: Keep in mind that almost all of these "uncertain picks" as summer DFE's are actually a lot closer to unlikely signings than they are to likely, and barring any unforeseen leaps forward will all eventually be shifted into that category as the summer progresses.
- Chris Giovinazzo (21) - the junior outfielder at UCLA spent his season on the bench, and the 21st round might not be what he had in mind if he thinks a year of starting will improve his position.
- Tony Rizzotti (28) - this article is very encouraging, but as it indicates, Rizzotti's likely somebody we're going to have to wait until the Aug. 15 deadline to know for certain.
- Marco Gonzales (29) - as with Rizzotti, the Rockies are doing a summer DFE with him and will wait and see how he looks before deciding to make an offer.
- Jimmie Koch (36) - I'm assuming he'll go into the unlikely category soon, but the Florida Tech coach hasn't convinced me, and barring more certain news, I'll leave him in the summer DFE (draft, follow and evaluate) category. Indeed, another report says that's exactly where he is. Koch will begin summer ball in another week or so after recovering from injury.
- Ben Mordini (41)
- Thomas Pereira (42)
- Keith Barlow (43)
- Kyle Richter (44)
- Mike Benjamin (45)
- Mitch Horacek (46)
- Landon Appling (47) - Another summer DFE that would seemingly much rather play professionally than go to the University of Houston:
"If they tell me to go, I'll go," Appling said. "We'll see how it goes. I can always play baseball at Houston like I had planned to do."
- Evan Thomas (49)
- James Dykstra (50)
Unlikely to sign:
- Ryan Eades (19) - LSU commit, I haven't seen anything to indicate he's thinking about going pro. These two articles indicate he's planning on pitching for LSU. Apparently he's back up to his 91/92 mph velocity after surgery. I hope we sign him just for the pie in the face of the Dodgers aspect of getting one of LSU's big three pitching recruits.
- Jacob Tanis (26) - his coach lays it out:
"I feel like he's going to be a Mercer Bear," said Gibson, who hadn't talked to Tanis as of early Tuesday evening. "The (27th) round, there's room for improvement. And it's like I told him, he's part of a great program, he's helped us win a championship, our team's going to be better next year.
"Everything's in his favor to come back."
- Jeff Ames (30) - this sounds pessimistic:
"I basically slipped down in the draft," he said. "They (the Rockies) wanted to draft me for a certain amount, and I stood firm on how much I wanted. I guess my standing firm caused me to drop in the draft."
- Jason Monda (32) - will likely bypass the pros for now to attend Washington State.
- Steve Selsky (34) - in the same situation as Tanis. The draft eligible sophomore wants third round money, and is "leaning toward going back to school." Still, he's another summer DFE and gives it about a 50/50 chance that he goes pro after playing in the Cape Cod League. UPDATE: Selsky's moved his self stated odds to 75/25 that he returns to college in this Q and A.
- Justin Fradejas (35) - this report from a few days ago says Fradejas is one of the Auburn Tigers "virtually certain to leave." I still have my doubts given how late he was picked.
- Dan Kickham (37) - here's an interesting article on him and his twin brother Mike, who was drafted by the Giants, but the pertinent paragraph comes near the very end:
Dan Kickham, on the other hand, is expected to wind up at MSU --barring a surprisingly early selection.
- Logan Davis (38) - according to this article
- Joel McKeithan (39) - wants seven figures:
"A lot of things have changed recently. We put out a number. It was pretty big and might turn some people off. We're pretty much saying, ‘Unless you want to give me this number, which is a lot, I'm probably going to Vanderbilt.'"
- Hunter Greenwood (48) - possibly would have signed if he was selected before the 25th round according to this article, now he's not expecting to get enough of a signing bonus to sway him from his scholarship to Sacramento State
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Finally, an interesting story about a player we didn't draft, but might have had he agreed to the terms we were offering. San Francisco's Stepen Yarrow turned down $75,000 plus money to finish college in order to stay in school. Another player we learn after the fact that the Rockies were interested in is Dodgers pick, Steve Domecus.
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I basically slipped down in the draft," he said. "They (the Rockies) wanted to draft me for a certain amount, and I stood firm on how much I wanted. I guess my standing firm caused me to drop in the draft.
If I pitch well this summer, maybe they’ll give me what I want," Ames said of the Rockies. "If they don’t, I’ll come back to LCC and work with Coach Hip (LCC pitching coach Rob Hippi). It’s a win-win for me either way.
yep, just finished updating with the status of all of yesterday's picks
Ames falls into the “unlikely to sign” category.
I bumped Taylor Reid up to a near lock,
his college coach indicates he’s going pro. Also, I moved Kyle Parker to “very likely” after further review of his post-draft comments.
Added links for Geoff Parker and Corey Dickerson
Parker’s still seeming very likely, while Dickerson’s not:
"I’m pretty sure that the Rockies will offer me slot money for being an eighth round draft pick so my family and I will have to decide if I’ll sign or go to MSU to improve my game," Dickerson said. "It’s really up in the air right now."
I would leave Dickerson where he's at
The Rockies likely know what they’ll need to do to land Dickerson, and obviously think well of him to take him here. I wouldn’t compare this to a Dominguez type pick, where the Rockies felt they had an idea what he wanted but then he came back with an outrageous demand. This looks more like a kid that has liked MSU and talked to the coaches, but have yet to really sit down and listen to the Rockies.
This article would support "leaning to sign"
as Scout has quotes from the MSU coach today expecting it to be tough to get Dickerson on campus.
I downgraded Rosado and also added a link to a March report that says Swanner
would prefer to turn pro if the money’s right, laying out the $192,000 value of his Pepperdine scholarship as a starting leverage point.
also added another Swanner link, this time from June 5.
He must have been telling scouts something he’s not saying to the media, because both these reports are indicating a pretty strong desire to turn pro.
So possibly 200,000 to land Swanner?
That sounds like a steal. I’m pretty impressed with this pick after watching some video and reading more reports. I like him as our fourth best pick behind Parker, Tago, and Bettis.
I don't know if he'll sign for that low,
but it definitely seems as though he might be below seven figures. I’ve been getting higher on the pick too as I’ve been reading today. I think Rutledge is right in that region, but yeah top five for sure.
Swanner and Casteel
I like what I’ve read on both of these guys. It sounds like Casteel was fairly well-regarded last year, but fell due to bonus demands. He had a solid freshman year and sounds as if he’s ready to sign now. If the Rox can get both he and Swanner signed, that would really help to bolster the depth at Catcher.
Casteel
Actually, he went completely undrafted last year. I read that it had to do with an injury during his senior year, not bonus demands.
You're right
I thought he went late, but he did end up going undrafted. According to the link provided above, it was due to bonus demands, though.
"I kept hearing that I’d go in the first eight rounds or that I would go late. It was 50-50 on signing me in the top eight rounds. For whatever reason — and it was probably signability — they didn’t draft me," Casteel said after not getting selected last year.
I definitely feel Kyle Parker's a lock to sign now...
Read this and you’ll see that the only question, and it’s not much of one, is whether he’s going to try the two-sport thing like Wilson.
I would expect the Rockies to disuade him from playing football again
especially at that level of investment, and judging from his comments, he may not put up a fight on that either. Sounds fully committed to baseball and the Colorado Rockies.
Interesting MP3 with BA's John Manuel
talking about the Wilson and Parker, and he says the same things. “He’s going to sign.” He does give a good scouting report on Wilson.
You kind of wonder
how much these sorts of comments the players make play on themselves.
The kid says he’ll only sign if he’s drafted early, so a club that views him as a fourth-round talent might think “is that early enough for him?” and pass on him, and he winds up getting drafted in the twentieth round. And then he says, well that’s not early enough for me so I’m going to college.
To which I should add
If the kid keeps his mouth shut prior to the draft, maybe he does get drafted early.
huh, that expains the Kaleb Barlow selection now
we needed a receiver for all our QB’s: check out this video
I haven’t found anything on what his signing parameters are, yet.
As of now, 26 players are at leaning to sign or better on your list.
We signed 40 players in 2009, 31 in 2008, and 33 in 2007.
So while it looked like on the surface the Rockies were taking quite a few tough signs, 26 isn’t THAT far off from our recent norm. It could mean that the Rockies intend to get serious with some of their DFE’s, which would make this a very interesting draft class. However, unlike the last few years, we’ve seemed to have gambled earlier than normal, with players like Rosado and Swanner not in the “projected 26” yet taken in rounds we normally sign our players.
My very early opinion is that without a Rosado or a Swanner, this draft class is above average but not at the levels of 2008 and 2009. However, with one of the two and a summer DFE or two, and I think you can speak of this draft with 2008.
For what it's worth
and it probably isn’t worth much…but Bill Schmidt said on Day 1 (when they interviewed him during the game on tv), that they expect to sign around 25 players.
That sounds about right,
I’m thinking we’ve narrowed it down pretty well with the remainder of these HS picks in the unlikely category once we get further word. Fradejas, who I currently have as leaning to sign might really be an uncertainty, but as David says, even with him that would be 26, which is right around that 25 range. Those that are in the uncertain category right now I would not expect the team to be counting on signing, they’re in a way gravy/dessert picks for the team.
Don't know if this has been posted yet
but this article from two days ago makes it sound like Peter Tago will be one of the quicker signs of our high picks and should report early to a short season team. Could be a throw away line at the end of the article, but none of Tago’s comments sound like a player not expecting to sign quickly.
thanks,
I had seen that and it was the reason I put him in the very likely, but couldn’t find it right away this morning as I started looking at other picks. I’ll add this and the Dickerson article to the post.
I think
a lot of people suspected that Tago would be a tough sign because he switched his commitment from UCLA to Fullerton.
Updated, with the remaining Day 3 picks added
Most of whom don’t have any media reports yet so I’m putting them in the Summer DFE category based on this article from the main site, which quotes Bill Schmidt:
“I feel good about what we did. We’ll let it play out,” Rockies vice president of scouting Bill Schmidt said. “Today was just really a couple kids we needed to fill out some rosters on the short-season clubs, and the rest were a couple kids we’re going to watch for the next couple months.”
There were added links for Steve Selsky, Jimmie Koch and Landon Appling, all of which sound at least somewhat optimistic.
Draft, follow, and evaluate
Until recently, teams drafted a bunch of junior college players and held their rights until a week before the next draft. If they liked what they saw, the drafting team could sign them. But that was eliminated a few years back. Now we have summer DFEs with the August deadline.
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Sorry about that, the one point where I wrote it has now been buried in the piece a bit
Draft, Follow and Evaluate. It used to be a common practice in the draft for junior college players as a team would have a full year to watch them before deciding if they wanted to sign, the Padres Mat Latos is probably the last high profile traditional DFE to come out before the rule was changed so that teams only have until Aug 15th to sign everybody. Since, a lot of teams, especially the Rockies have sort of come up with a shortened summer version, as they ask these players to go to summer leagues with more advanced competition. If the player does well and looks promising, the team will offer a contract.
Not that this helps us sign him, but this would be why we drafted Ames (30)
Jeff plays for the Wenatchee AppleSox:
The AppleSox will send the flame throwing right-hander from Lower Columbia College, Jeff Ames, on Friday. Ames, who has a fastball that has been clocked at 96 mph, was drafted by the Colorado Rockies this week in the 30th round of the major league draft.
In case anybody was needing more confirmation about Peter Tago signing:
In this story about the end of his high school team’s Cinderella season, it says:
"I’ve been on varsity for four years," Tago said. "All that hard work…it stinks it comes to this. It’s heartbreaking, just heartbreaking."
He said he was looking forward to turning pro, and that he knows the Dana Hills program is better now because of him and his fellow seniors and teammates. "We all put our heart and soul into it, but nothing is handed to you, you’ve got to earn it. You’ve got to bind to the program."
That last bit is a pretty good testament to the kid’s make-up. I think we drafted a good one, here.
Corey Dickerson signed!
You can read it right here. Already, Rockies are going overslot on what was to be one of the tougher signs, so it seemed.
I’m pretty excited about this one. There have been varying reports about Dickerson’s athleticism, but he looks pretty fluid with an excellent frame on his scout videos, and as the article says, the Rockies are going to let him play center, so they obviously feel there’s good athleticism in this player as well. With a big year at Casper, it’s possible Dickerson could reach the Purps list, but more likely, this will be a name to file away for a year, but he’s most certainly a prospect.
Per Ringolsby tweets
Chad Bettis signed and will report to Tri-City. No word on starting or relief, but I’m hoping starting.
Parker may require 2.5 million?
Bill Schmidt says it could in a new Baseball America article. However, it also doesn’t appear that they mind paying it.
they'll be able to spread the bonus over five years if they wanted to
because of his two sport status, the same goes for Wilson and I’m guessing Barlow. There might be a couple of others as well.
Thanks for keeping up on this so much RG
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Per Steve Foster
Rockies agree to terms with 11 draft picks
The players: Chad Bettis, Jared Simon, Corey Dickinson, Jayson Langfels, Ryan Casteel, Blake McDade, Mark Tracy, Bruce Kern, Kenneth Roberts, Blake Keitzman, Jordan Ballard.
nice find
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JFK
I updated the eleven signees, also thought I'd give a bit of a Hommy Rosado update
Well, actually it’s not so much an update on him as his high school teammate, Kevin Berard, who signed with the Brewers. Berard, like Rosado, was slated to go to LSU-Eunice. He’s already signed despite being a 22nd round selection. Rosado was drafted in the 11th round. I don’t know if they were friends, it sounds like they were closer than Berard was to Garin Cecchini, who also played on that Barbe team. Anyway, if you see a friend and a teammate who you were expecting to go to college to play with go pro, I would think that would either add pressure to go pro yourself or at the very least take away one of the draws of going to Eunice.
We’ll see if it works out this way, but I can’t help but think Berard’s signing is a positive indicator that Rosado will sign as well.
Josh Mueller signed
Went to check on Rockies’ draftees on the Cape, and didn’t find Muller on the Wareham roster. Then came across this article.
I’d expect this to be yet another above slot deal, but Mueller brings an impressive scouting report and reputation in a round you don’t expect to find them in.
Thanks for the updates both to you and Tom for Tanos
I’ve been busy on a separate writing project the last couple of days and haven’t had as much opportunity to keep up to date as I would like. I did read an article on Hunter Greenwood a couple of days ago that as expected puts him solidly in the “unlikely” category, so I will slide him down and put Tanos and Mueller as signed after I finish this morning’s Rockpile.
Nothing to do with signing but...
Marco Gonzales is one of the Faces in the Crowd in the 6/21/10 issue of Sports Illustrated.
A question
When players sign for pro teams, does that mean they’re not able to finish their education? Isn’t this a problem since most of them won’t make it in the sport? Do any of them maintain their degrees while also playing?
Most of the bigger contracts include money for school
Which is sometimes treated like free money by teams since several players won’t take advantage of this. Often, the school amount has a set amount of time to be used before it expires, making it difficult for players as well.
As for completing degrees, again some do and some don’t. It’s harder for the bigger names since they often get invited to fall leagues, instructs, major league spring training, September call ups, etc.
Thanks David. I'd have thought it'd be in everyone's interest to maintain the education of the younger players
At least those who have a realistic chance of academic success. And it would presumably help them feel grounded too. Since the minor leagues are seldom rushed, it seems there’d be ample time to achieve all their goals. Do any clubs have good reputations in this area?
Well, one issue with the free money
Most teams will only foot the bill for an education at a state school (presumably in the player’s home state.) That can be an issue for a player who went to a private school — not that I’m saying a degree from a private school is necessarily better than one from a state school, but often you can have issues with credits transferring when going between a private school and a state school (particularly private schools affiliated with a church.)
It'll be interesting to see if more players complete their degrees online
since a lot of schools are offering on-line programs now. Being in a different city with your minor league team might not be as big an obstacle as it once was.
Josh Slaats update
I’m going to leave him in the “near lock” category until a credible media outlet reports otherwise, but this discussion thread opened by a friend of his has a couple of clues that he may have already agreed to terms if not signed. There’s a specific mention of a $350K bonus.
Wilson has signed.
Per Ringolsby. The article said he took ground balls at second base during a workout with Rich Dauer.
Matt Crocker
is now listed on the Casper roster.
I also noticed him listed as signed
according to Baseball America’s Draft Database
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I updated with Josh Slaats having signed and news that Rutledge is apparently close
You’ll have to look for a cached copy of that linked article on Rutledge, but the Slaats link works.
I also finally moved Matt Crocker into the signed camp as well. In all this brings us up to 18 picks that have signed, five more that there’s little reason to doubt that they will sign, and a handful of wildcards.
Oh, I forgot to update, but last week there was also a video report on Kaleb Barlow where he basically says that he’s a summer follow as well and seems as if he would sign if the Rockies were really interested.
I have not seen a scouting report
so what is it about Slaats that would have us signing him for over slot money? I saw his jus W/L record and ERA, but does he strike out a lot, is a hard thrower, what makes him worth the signing. I know he’s a junior, so he had some leverage, was that the reason?
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Jack Handy quote
Reports indicate his fastball and slider are both potential MLB out pitches
With the FB sitting mostly 92-95 and staying over 90 and retaining decent life late in games. He’s fairly advanced and poised and should rise quickly. The FB/slider combo already gives him a floor of a quality reliever or bottom of the rotation starter/longman as long as he stays healthy, if he develops a change-up or a cutter or 2 seam FB, he could have a ceiling as a quality mid-rotation starter.
Basically he’s Connor Graham with a greater likelihood of reaching his ceiling and it was pretty surprising he dropped as far in the draft as he did. The number we were hearing for his bonus was $350,000, which isn’t outrageous, but likely more than most fifth round selections.
Slider looks really sharp
On the scouting videos. It looks like a breaking pitch he can throw for a strike and as a chase pitch. Worst case is he’s a slider dependent reliever, but I like the Connor Graham comp career-wise.
btw, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Kraig Sitton is in a similar situation,
signed a bit above slot, but being held up in the bureaucracy as he’s another Jr. with enough leverage to get an above slot bonus, but not enough to hold out all summer in the hopes of squeezing out something more from the Rockies. The same is true to a lesser extent of Geoff Parker, but right around that draft range you get to a point where collegiate juniors might actually be seriously considering returning to school.
Thanks as usual for the scouting report
I will be following his development closely. Maybe this was already mentioned, but do you know where he will be assigned?
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Kraig Sitton
was signed and assigned to Tri-City according to the transactions log on the Rockies MLB site.
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There's a report
that July 20 is the date for a Parker decision.
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Swanner
Any thoughts on how the team came up with the dollars to meet his asking price?
Is it as simple as with Kyle Parker wanting to continue to play football and Geoff Parker getting hurt, the team had more money to go after a tough sign?
TGFPR!!
My own guess is that the money to sign Swanner was there all along.
This seems to me to be a case of an overslot player being held back for league solidarity purposes and I think it’s probably independent of the developments with the two Parkers. Swanner’s demands weren’t that out of line given his talent profile and scholarship, and he really seemed to be looking for equal value to the scholarship value. All of this seems to indicate to me that it was a case of the Rockies taking a shot on a quality player that slipped. Another indication that this might be the case is the purported $650K offer to Rosado, this would be in that range and it would show how the Rockies are valuing these players from the beginning.
Josh Slaats' status can certainly be updated, I think.
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Baseball America
Has Robert Brewer as signed in their draft database (highlighted).
My college band teacher was named Robert Brewer
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What happened to Tago signing so quick?
Is it that he want’s to be paid over slot and the Commissioner’s office has to approve it still?
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He’s a talented prep player who wasn’t expected to be a comp pick. The commissioner’s office discourages overslot deals, but can’t really do anything about it, so they kind of try to screw things around a little by holding the deals up.
whenever I see Tanos in the Pebble Reports, I read it as Tago
“wow that pitcher can really rake”
/throws SDcat09 under bus
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Baseball America's Draft Database backs this up.
I’m shocked, but at the same time Parker was in a tough spot. I’d expect him to be the veteran leader in the Tri City bullpen next year and hope he gets his career on track. From everything I’ve read, he seems to be a great guy.
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