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Friday Rockpile: The Reds Hunt for October

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Friday Commentary:

The Reds have looked ripe for a breakout season through about 3 years now. 2010 has marked the year where they have gotten their best opportunity. With previous contenders Chicago Cubs and MIlwaukee Brewers in down years and the Pirates and Astros lollygagging about, only the regularly competitive St. Louis Cardinals represent a significant threat to October dreams in Cincinnati. They're an exciting team, with a lot of young talent, and they represent one of the most intriguing teams to me this year. I am excited to see them. After we play Cincinnati, the only NL team we will have yet to face is the Pittsburgh Pirates, whom we will play upon returning to Coors Field at the end of the month.

The Reds will be the first post-All Star challenge for the Rockies, three games that begin a nightmarish 11 game road trip that takes us East to the Marlins and Phillies afterwards. Remember that Jim Tracy has stacked the rotation a bit differently. With Ubaldo Jimenez set to get the maximum amount of rest after two innings pitched to start Tuesday's All Star game, Jason Hammel will be filling the #1 slot for now, followed by Jorge De La Rosa and Aaron Cook before heading to Miami. The Rockies will be facing the well-styled hair of Bronson Arroyo today. 2008 breakout star Edinson Volquez will be making his seasonal debut against us on Saturday. Sunday's starter has yet to be announced, but Aaron Harang will be eligible to return from the DL should they so choose to activate him, but it is more likely we face Johnny Cueto.

Though the crestfallen days may be over for now (and will be until August 2nd), this 11 game road trip needs to be taken seriously. While we all hope that the Rockies can continue capitalizing against good teams, it must also be realized that facing teams like the Reds and Phillies will provide a challenge for us. Most of our recent success has come at home, and it is time to show that we can take the act on the road. The 11 game road trip is nothing when you realize that only 11 games of the next 35 will be at Coors Field.

Links (of which there are few):

The talks of a Dan Uggla trade have been heating up this past week, and yesterday our friend Troy Renck confirmed via Twitter that the names of Esmil Rogers and Matt Miller have been mentioned in consideration. Renck also mentions that the team is listening to requests about Franklin Morales. The team will not, however, be trading Jhoulys Chacin for any reason. Good.

Also from Renck, this time for the Denver Post, injured first baseman Todd Helton will not be ready to return immediately when he is eligible to come off the disabled list in Florida (as I predicted). For now, the team will be bringing Helton along with them in case they need to activate him at a moment's notice. This would mean that if Helton is ready to be activated before returning home to Denver, he may not be going on a rehabilitation assignment with a minor league affiliate. Interesting, though Renck specifically mentions that the team will still probably give him one, suggesting that Helton's presence on the road trip may be more related to his presence alone than his potential performance.

This was mentioned in the comments for yesterday's Rockpile, so it may have already been seen by many of you, but I thought I'd give a link to Jack Moore of Fangraphs' Four Factors column, which focused on Carlos Gonzalez yesterday. It's an interesting look at his flaws, but I wouldn't say it offers anything we don't already know, such as he's gotten lucky with some hits and he never walks (he has fewer walks this season than both Clint Barmes and Miguel Olivo, though to their credit, both batters seem to have improved their patience at the plate this season). The most interesting aspect of the column is comparing his current stats to those from 2009 and 2008, providing a little bit of evolutionary context to Gonzalez' short career thus far.

A couple more after the jump.

Star-divide

If you recall, Jim Tracy got a street named after him in his home town of Hamilton, Ohio (Rockies pitcher Aaron Cook also lives here, though he was born in Kentucky). Tiffany Y. Latta of the Hamilton JournalNews has the story. Take note, Rowbot Photshoppers and Meme Artists: that picture there of Jim Tracy and his street sign may be quite useful to you someday.

ESPNLosAngeles reports that the McCourts may be ordered by the McCourts to sell the Dodgers during their legal battle. The financial chaos involved in the divorce proceedings has the judge concerned that the operations of the Dodgers may be simply a nightmare to attempt to resolve in this manner.

Each McCourt continues to complain of low liquidity, and L.A. Superior Court Commissioner Scott Gordon thought of one way to resolve their cash flow issue -- putting a for sale sign at Chavez Ravine, the newspaper said.

Low liquidity, eh? This is perfect for a Chinatown reference, even if it's the wrong kind of liquidity.

"Forget it, Frank. It's Mannywood Dodgertown."

Poll
Friday Poll: What opposing team scares you most over the next 11 games?
The Cincinnati Reds. They have a lot of sharp young talent we haven't seen yet.
82 votes
The Florida Marlins. We always seem to have the most trouble against the teams we should be most likely to beat.
71 votes
The Philadelphia Phillies. The East Coast Overlords will rule us all.
78 votes

231 votes | Poll has closed

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When was the last time

A 27 going on 28 year old minor league outfielder was a key piece to a big trade? I’m pro Uggla trade, but after reading Renck’s tweets, it sounds like more speculation than substance. Matt Miller is not a prospect and is not likely to be a major contributor to a big league team. His lack of power numbers in hitter friendly PCL should be alarming to other teams. Sorry Troy, a AAA All Star appearance is a nice career achievement but not a signifier of pro potential. Otherwise we should never have let go of that Andy Tracy guy.

by David OhNo on Jul 16, 2010 7:24 AM MDT reply actions  

But all we need to do is add Alan Johnson

with Matt Miller to make it happen!

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by Russ Oates on Jul 16, 2010 7:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Perhaps I read Renck's tweet wrong

To me it seems that he is saying that we have depth with Miller so we could move another outfield piece.

by Blake20th on Jul 16, 2010 7:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

The only outfielders the Rockies should even think about trading are Spilborghs and Hawpe...

and you’d be selling pretty low on Hawpe right now.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jul 16, 2010 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Uh oh...

Don’t let Cat hear you say that…

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Are all brits as bitchy as you?

I’ve got to say, every dirty brit that I’ve met has been pretty cool.

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

hey,

man, no swearing. Its barely 8:30, golly.

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 8:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

but..but..

He said dirty brit.

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 8:47 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yet yo mind

out. the gutter.

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

My mind

is nowhere NEAR the gutter!

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 8:57 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's good missy.

You’re too young for such foulness.

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pot/kettle scenario

Anyway, I just asked if we can can the meme, just like I’d have asked anyone else who’d said it. Keep your knickers on.

by biondino on Jul 16, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why???

Everyone knows when my knickers drop its a

PAAARRRRRRRR TAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

um

I wear skirts.

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 9:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let's hope you have knickers too :)

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Knickers in US = the shorter trousers the basebvall players wear, right?

Not so much in the UK. and if PIP becomes involved in any such conversation, I could go to prison.

by biondino on Jul 16, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

So long as that is your use of the word knickers :)

and remains so on the Row to stay consistent.

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

re lenient systems

Doesn’t that apply to your dental system, too?

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bazinga!

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would reply harshly to your dental gag

But then I remember that not only do I have stupid gappy teeth, but that I chipped a front one on the weekend when an unfortunate juxtaposition of kissing and laughing occurred. ;_;

by biondino on Jul 16, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

"unfortunate juxtaposition of kissing and laughing"

Wow, that could totally end up with a trip to the 15 day DL. You should stretch better next time, and go see the trainer.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know

I’ll need several days kissing rehabilitation in Modesto and Tulsa, and I don’t fancy any of them :(

by biondino on Jul 16, 2010 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

You've made Christian Friedrich very angry

don’t you find him hawt?

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

We dated a few years ago, it ended messily

It’s a bit of a sensitive subject if you don’t mind.

by biondino on Jul 16, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hope not "messily" in the way of...

….Votto and Pujols’ face.

I may need counseling after reading that.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

just a shower

Ubaldo Jimenez: Your Cy Young awaits in 2010
Brad Hawpe: 1B, RF so long as you stay a Rockie
Todd and Troy: Get well soon
Clint Barmes: We don't need no stinkin' Uggla
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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

TWHS

Oh Christian. You were so beautiful back then. Why did I let you go help Alan Johnson wash his car that fateful day?

by biondino on Jul 16, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

a favorite quote from Chuck Klosterman:

on essays he received while teaching a class on American pop culture, on who the most influential pop culture icon in the US was:

“By far, most people wrote about Michael Jackson. Mostly, they saw him as a misunderstood genius, who was marginalized partially for racial reasons. Most did think he was a child molester though. Europeans are forgiving in unorthodox ways.”

just thought I’d share.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

yay

I’m a few weeks over 16.

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 9:35 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

really...just now?

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

in context it's not

but there was this really long discussion section between yours and hers – that just adds to the creepy.

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

In any sense it's not

But you said those very words to me about my exchange with PIP and it seemed appropriate.

by biondino on Jul 16, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

AMart made the official creep.P. call

about half an hour earlier.

Just for the record.

Bazinga!

by Junction Rox on Jul 16, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bitchy isn't swearing?!?!?!

Russ?

/checks on “bitchy”

Judge Mills Lane says: “while it initially entered the American lexicon as coarse and vulgar word, ‘bitchy’ has enjoyed a renaissance in the common vernacular to mean ‘moody or testy’. Because it’s Friday, I’ll allow it.”

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

No you cannot.

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah I have no idea who in our OF

We would be willing to trade that Florida would have an interest in.

by Blake20th on Jul 16, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Noooooo!

No trading Spilly!

LoDo Magic, The Ghost of Tulo's Mullet or Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!

by DAWNMARIE01 on Jul 16, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

I read it as Miller creates additional depth...

not that he’d be any kind of trade piece.

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

This

I also read the tweets not as any evidence of actual trade discussions, but of speculation on Renck’s part on what directions trade talks could take.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Point doesn't change

Matt Miller does not belong in either equation, be it a trade piece or one seen as a depth player to deal other assets. If the Rockies trade Blackmon, they don’t do it because they have Matt Miller.

by David OhNo on Jul 16, 2010 9:17 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

so what's the chances that when we leave Florida, Uggla is wearing a Rockies uni?

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by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

It would be sweet if it happend after game 2

and Uggla just committed like 3 sweet ERRORZ a game.

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Could he possibly be worse than Mora at 1st? Cause I don't think the likelihood of seeing Todd at first any time soon

is all that great.

I know he would rather play 2nd but an infield of Uggla at first, Hernandez at 2nd, Tulo at SS and Barmey at 3rd would look pretty nice down the stretch. And I think Uggla would like a chance to play in the WS.

And yes, I’ve lost a bunch of confidence in Caber. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him as part of a trade in the not too distant future.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

when tulo gets back we cant have both herrera and barmes in there at the same time

i have a feeling Tulo’s wrist injury is going to hurt his SLG. With that infield only Uggla would provide decent SLG. Stewart has to stay in at 3b

by purplesocks on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

sure we can. Just slide Barmes to 3rd. Stewart hasn't performed up to snuff IMO

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by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Stewie has a OPS+ of 114 for the season and 144 for the past month

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

would that include strike outs at inopportune times?

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

/folds

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

picky picky picky

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

HA

Ian Stewart COULDN’T have batted .193 because Atkins was playing all the time for some ungodly reason!

HA

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

think that may have been meant for Barmes.

I just get so tired of waiting for Stewart to reach into his bag of potential and bring out some the play we all expect of him on a regular basis.

Someone once said “Potential means you haven’t done anything yet” (paraphrased). Thats where I am with Ian. I think we would be a much more productive team with Uggla at first and Barmes at third. This assumes Todd won’t be playing regularly in the foreseeable future.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, keep a few things in mind

1. You’re wrong
2. Just kidding
3. Stewart is 25
4. Stewart has been shuffled to the bench perpetually throughout his short career so Atkins could continue to undeniably decline.
5. add 3+4 together and you have someone who is just finding his real swing as a starter

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm ready to win now. Don't think Stewart gives us as much opportunity to do that at this point.

With the year ‘Baldo is having, we can’t squander this season.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna write on this for Wednesday I think

Basically, I disagree with you, but when we get down to “I don’t think he can do it” vs “I think he can do it” and we’re not using the stat metrics in the debate, we might as well let it sit for a bit.

Check back with me on this wednesday, I’d love to continue – I just won’t want to fire all of my ammunition right now!

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

fair enough. Not being a dyed in the wool stat guy, I'm always going to go with

the observation/gut feel. But I understand your position. I just don’t agree with quite all of it.

I’ll look forward to your thoughts on it later.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Help me understand your point

Stewart both gets on base better (.350-.322) and hits for more power (.438-.399) than Barmes, and yet Barmes is the better option at third because, anecdotally, you’ve seen Stewart strike out at a few inopportune moments?

Taking a hit in on-base and power gives the Rockies a better opportunity to win now?

by deacs on Jul 16, 2010 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

You've got to go back to he original discussion that had

Uggla being traded for and installed at 1B in the event Todd is close to being done. s Uggla’s OBP is .369 and slugging at .483 for an OPS of .852. Better than Stewart.

Then we just need to compare Barmes to Todd to see how that shakes out:

Barmes OBP:.322; Slugging .399; OPS .721

Helton: OBP .336; Slugging .310; OPS 646

seems to me that we would be a better hitting club with Uggla “replacing” Stewart and playing 1B and Barmes “replacing” Todd and playing 3rd.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I see what you mean with "replacing" and such

but if Uggla > Stewart > Barmes > Helton, how does not slotting Uggla in at 2B in favor of Barmes (assuming Tulo is back, etc) and keeping Stewart at 3B the best option?

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or even if we had Uggla at 1B

I still don’t see how Stewart is shuffled out – assuming we’re willing to not assume Helton is the guy

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

What are you gonna do at first? I was trying to come up with a way to

have Barmes, Uggla and Herrera in the lineup at the same time. A lot of this is frustration with Stewart on my part. I’ll be the first to admit that one.

I’m sure that will start the howling about Herrera. And Todd’s back issues demand that first base must be dealt with. Mora and Giambi aren’t the answer and I just don’t see Tracy switching Iannetta or Hawpe.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think Herrera's been great

but I don’t think he’ll maintain greatness. Not just because of SABR flags that suggest it, but because if you look at what he’s done throughout his career, he’s just not this good.

I see him as the odd-man out.

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think you're probably right on the mark there.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah, I wrote about that on Monday

99% of the conversation was off topic

.1% was “we finally have a great bunter and you want to get rid of him?” which I never said

and I think the other .9% was UGGLA conversation.

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Baseball Musing's Lineup Analysis

With Uggla as a Rockie. (I used Cargo, Smith, Hawpe, Uggla, Stewart/Barmes, Olivo, Tulo, Ubaldo’s ’09 hitting line, and .370 OBP/.460 SLG for the Eldred/Giambi/Mora first base situation.

With Barmes and Uggla in the lineup, the best combination scores 5.63 runs/game. The worse scores 5.173 runs/game.

With Stewart and Uggla in the lineup, the best combination scores 5.712 runs/game. The worst scores 5.285 runs/game.

That’s a pretty stark difference between having Barmes or Stewart in the lineup. It’s noticeably worse with Barmes playing over Stewart.

by deacs on Jul 16, 2010 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Granted, I haven't followed this thread closely

but that makes no sense.

A batting lineup (not fielding) is the sum of its parts. In a batting order, 1-9 only count for their hitting. Keeping the weakest bat in the lineup at a different position does nothing to change the fact that the weakest bat in the lineup is still in the lineup.

by deacs on Jul 16, 2010 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

the weakest bat in the lineup is arguably Todd Helton

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

In the scenario (and reality), Todd's not playing

If Uggla is acquired and Tulo is healthy, that means Barmes is definitely the weakest bat.

With Tulo hurt, the best lineup definitely includes Barmes at SS, Uggla at 2B, Stewart at 3B, and the Modrembi combo at 1B

by deacs on Jul 16, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

i dont believe that at all

why would everyone else be saying the rockies are in talks. plus tulo is not healthy and probably wont be for several more weeks and even when he comes back he’ll likely see a loss in SLG due to the nature of wrist injuries

by purplesocks on Jul 16, 2010 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

You ever get the feeling that

Ringolsby and Renck just don’t get along…. I’m calling out Ringolsby here and saying he’s full of crap. There has been to much talk about Uggla for the rockies not to be interested.

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by wolf213 on Jul 16, 2010 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

How much of that talk has actually been sourced to the club?

I say none.

That does not mean the Rox are categorically not interested. It means that all this discussion is pure speculation not founded on anything other than:

1. Hey, Uggla plays 2B and hits DINGERZ;
2. Barmes hits lousy after the ASB;
3. Tulo’s coming back

Again, this doesn’t argue for or against the merits of a trade, but there’s no indication whatsoever that there is any talk within the club about trading for Uggla.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

DINGERZ!!!1!

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's certainly blown out of proportion by the community.

But the fact is, the team probably has 5 conference calls a day with other teams, and I refuse to believe that the last time O’Dowd got on the line with Florida, they didn’t say the words “Dan Uggla”. This is likely a case of someone in the organization A, not being privy to this particular call, or B, a difference in definition of “a name coming up”.

by Greg Stanwood on Jul 16, 2010 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

TEEN GIRL SQUAD!

CHEERLEADER.

SO AND SO.

WHAT’S HER FACE.

THE UGLY ONE.

by Greg Stanwood on Jul 16, 2010 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

how do you know this I thought you hate fun

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

naturally

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or "c"

Where the Monforts have already said they’re not interested in either taking on additional salary at this point, nor diverting away from their methodology of developing from within (and getting complimentary pieces cheap, which Uggla is not).

Which leads to “d”, where Florida says “you want Uggla” and the Rox say "no thanks (but at which point it’s a truthful statement that “the teams discussed Uggla”)

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Quite possible.

That still means his name has been discussed more recently than the Winter Meetings.

by Greg Stanwood on Jul 16, 2010 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

But it also makes it even less likely that any Uggla trade is on the horizon

Or that there’s even any actual rumors of Uggla trade talks.

The only real point being that writers using other writers self-made reasoning as something that constitutes a “rumor” is actually pretty much intellectually dishonest.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think I trust Renck here then

the Cowboy.
Uggla will be a Rockie before the deadline, book it.

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by wolf213 on Jul 16, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Smack it up, flip it,

and rub it down!

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, I actually trust Renck, too....

….but we’re putting words in his mouth. He hasn’t said the team has discussed Uggla.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mondogarage:

I think this comes pretty close to saying that the team has discussed Uggla

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_15501878

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by wolf213 on Jul 16, 2010 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I read that article again...

(I read it when it first came out), and I don’t think it comes close to saying that at all. A header of “Uggla on radar” isn’t saying anything more than Uggla is on Renck’s radar. And then he goes on to explain all the logical reasons why there would be no trade talks for Uggla (Fla not eating contracts, Rox not taking on contracts, Uggla not wanting to leave 2B, etc).

In other words, the article contains more words than a Renck tweet, but on its face, the article doesn’t say at all that the team has discussed Uggla.

Now, I trust Renck as a writer. If Renck comes back with a Tweet that says the Rockies are talking about trading for Uggla, then that is 1000% different, and I’d believe it. But he hasn’t actually written anything of the kind yet, and he’s written nothing that can be concluded in that fashion unless the reader is filling in the gaps and making their own logic leaps.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think Renck

puts a bold headline like “Uggla is on the Radar” if he isn’t truly on the radar.

Especially when he follows it up with

There were strong indications Monday that the Rockies remain interested in Florida’s Dan Uggla.

Where would these indications come from? Purplerow? I think he’s been talking to some insiders that have knowledge. It just seems dishonest otherwise to say there are strong indications, and he is on the radar, if its just him speculating.

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by wolf213 on Jul 16, 2010 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why do you even necessarily believe...

…that Renck wrote the sub header?

He doesn’t elaborate at all on the “indications”.

So all he did was essentially make a claim (“there were strong indications”), and the rest of the article discusses the logic and hurdles involved with such a move.

So “strong indications” could in fact, simply be “well gosh, I’ve seen a lot of internet chatter about this today”.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

No.

I’m saying that while they may not be seriously considering a trade, I find it very difficult to believe that Uggla hasn’t been mentioned numerous times while making the rounds.

by Greg Stanwood on Jul 16, 2010 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

What I'm saying is...

….that there is actually no evidence that he was even talked about.

And Renck’s tweets, and a MLBTR writeup that doesn’t even refer to “unnamed club officials” is evidence that he was even talked about.

That’s what I’m saying.

Renck hasn’t even actually said that the team has actually discussed Uggla. Instead, Renck has tossed his own ideas around about what it would take to get Uggla. That’s not nearly the same.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ringolsby's tweet similarly doesn't provide any evidence that he wasn't talked about.

The sheer amount of internal discussions + the sheer amount of connections made between Uggla and the Rockies makes me feel more confident than not that Uggla has been considered. I’m not trying to prove it in court here.

by Greg Stanwood on Jul 16, 2010 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

But see....

…even those “connecting” the Rox to Uggla aren’t connecting the team to talking about Uggla.

1,001 writers can all conclude that Uggla would be a good trade pickup and decide what it would take to get the Marlins to trade him…but when none of them actually connect the team itself to Uggla discussions, then there’s no indication at all that anyone other than the 1,001 writers have connected the Rox to Uggla.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I still don't really see what you're trying to argue here.

I understand that what has been said is no reason to jump to the conclusion that we’re already deep into the Uggla boat, and also understand that media skepticism is completely justified in any case, but I’m not sure why you’re taking it so seriously here. We’re not all delusional, here. There has been a lot of talk about the Rockies and Uggla. There’s no reason to absolutely refuse to believe the possibility that the Rockies have, in fact, been keeping their eye on him.

by Greg Stanwood on Jul 16, 2010 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Here's what I'm not saying...

….I’m not saying there is no reason to believe the possibility the Rox are looking at him.

What I am saying is that there’s no actual evidence of the Rox having interest in him, because all of the talk has come only from reporters’ own thoughts and reporters using other reporters’ thoughts as their “source”.

These are two distinctly difference concepts.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we agree with the concept...

… jut disagree over the conditions that highlight whether or not its reasonable to believe in it.

by Greg Stanwood on Jul 16, 2010 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Coincidentally, Alana said virtually the same thing

last week when she did an interview on a local sports talk show over here. Rox didn’t need Uggla, she didn’t think they had talked about Uggla, and she would be “very surprised” to see him in a Rockies uni. I wonder if this is the word around the FSRM set.

Bazinga!

by Junction Rox on Jul 16, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I KNOW...

we know you can roll your Rs Alana…you don’t have to celebrate it.

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

But what makes her a worse source....

…than Ken Rosenthal, who half the time is categorically wrong.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you for posting this

I replied to Renck’s Twitter update by saying “Is Matt Miller seriously considered anything more than a toss-in on a trade?”

by Andrew Martin on Jul 16, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

I expect a "Jim Tracy Way"

photoshop to appear in the game thread tonight.

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by Russ Oates on Jul 16, 2010 7:44 AM MDT reply actions  

It probably won't take that long....

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Probably,

but I mean in a game-related photoshop.

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by Russ Oates on Jul 16, 2010 7:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Erm
Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I’m a dog chasing cars. I wouldn’t know what to do with one if I caught it. You know, I just… do things. AMart has plans, JDub hase plans, RIRF’s got plans. You know, they’re schemers. Schemers trying to control their little worlds. I’m not a schemer. I try to show the schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

SUH WEET!

When/where was that posted???

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's a quote from the Joker from The Dark Knight...

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

/disappointment

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

what? you don't like the Joker in the Dark Knight?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought

that you thought that I thought I had plans…

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

All about the failboat this morning

First stop…wherever the Gints are playing tonight.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Since when are we using this horrible nickname for RMN

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

It ends after the latter of...

….either the start of tonight’s game, or when RMN actually forms his plans and schemes

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Muzia: The Nicky Hilton of Purple Row

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

did I miss something here...

when did Muzia get a life?

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

He found it on the appetizer menu at Old Chicago's

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh

you are on your A game today Mondo.

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Muzia: Social—-lite

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

awesome!

One of my favorite quotes, though I can never get it right.

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 9:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

My OT post for the day:

Go see Inception.

My review: Thank you Mr. Nolan.

by roxintober on Jul 16, 2010 7:59 AM MDT reply actions  

Can't wait to see it.

Seth Smith's beard looks on in anticipation.

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by Thnikkaman on Jul 16, 2010 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Me too, but won't be able to this weekend or next week

It’s the one film this summer I’ve really been looking forward to. Though I now also want to see The Kids Are Alright

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

really? How would you compare it to Memento?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Memento

niceee great movie…so underrated not many people have heard of it…glad to see somebody else has

Get better Tulo....time to rally around each other and hang in there until our Mr. everything returns

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or, more appropriately

has else somebody see to glad… it of heard have people many not underrated so…movie great nicee

Memento

Bazinga!

by Junction Rox on Jul 16, 2010 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

hahaha

nicee

Get better Tulo....time to rally around each other and hang in there until our Mr. everything returns

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jul 16, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

im excited

Though Leo never intrigues me

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 16, 2010 8:26 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have now met The jDub

He’s real, and he’s spectacular!

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 8:20 AM MDT reply actions  

Is he stuck in the 80s?

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by Russ Oates on Jul 16, 2010 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

it wasn't a garish hat, just something we would recognize

a classic Montreal Expos hat that was likely made in a factory in Panama, 1976.

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

it must feel good to be able to say "i have no plans tonight"

And suddenly a dozen people show up

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 16, 2010 8:29 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

QUALITY > Quantity

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Quality is....

….chicken and waffles at Oskar Blues.

Just sayin’.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

And the Dale's.

Dale’s is gangster.

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not a fan. I do like the Gubna Imperial IPA

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh nevermind

Guess you’re a loser

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 16, 2010 8:36 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Windsor is a lot more civilized than Keenesburg thankyouverymuch

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 16, 2010 8:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Windsor

is a cute little town.

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Keenesburg is uncivilized?

I’d hate to see what you’d say about my little hometown.

by Yokel on Jul 16, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

funny, I always thought the old Montreal logo looked like a uterus.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

or cacknballs

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

who would

put a uterus on a hat though?

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

reccin dis

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh...

So he’s actually cool in real life. ; J

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 8:31 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

If by "cool" you mean

loud, obnoxious, and interrupting…

;)

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hear that ladies???

I’m spectacular.

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

whatever.

Not yet in my book. You still have to prove yourself to me.

Maybe in a few years…..
/partially kidding

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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 8:35 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh PIP...

(kids these days…such a riot)

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

lololololol rec

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

PIMP

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

no.

no.
no.
no.
no.

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm told his is Magically Happening

He is….the most interesting Rowbot in the world.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

wow.

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

And by a booth, you mean two booths?

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh my

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh RMN

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

because of jDub's gravitational pull?

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

oh dayummmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!! ROFL

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

once those bodies are set in motion

you sit back and watch the magic happen

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

/shudder

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Or sit back and wonder..

how did this happen…

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

You can't mess with chemistry.

Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...

by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought this was physics???

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by RdRnnr on Jul 16, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought it was astrophysics

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

I was too busy eating.

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Um, the dish is getting deep here

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

You nailed me.

HA!

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Me too...

but that means I can only hang with you, matt, beep beep over there.

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

TW......nah, too easy.

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by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah dude...

I don’t normally drink on school nights. I’ve got a few cobwebs this morning. Need an attention suck.

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

WOW.

Nice work. Ah…I memmer those days.

/looks back fondly

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by The jDub on Jul 16, 2010 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Alright...

How about Jeff Aberle for Eric Stephen and cash?

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

we are receiving cash in this deal?

seems backwards to me, considering I hate Jeff with the fire of a thousand egyptian suns

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

is an egyptian sun more fiery than say a Sonoran sun?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

and before you get all up in my grill,

Eric fills a need here. Mainly our lack of people named Eric.

And Jeff is in Japan already, I think he’d jump at the chance to be back in the bigs.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah but Eric fumbles stats left and right

we may have to stick with the homegrown guy here

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Gosh, is that all people are going to remember?

Just because he let a couple stats go by. No one is arguing

Jeff with stats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric with stats

but you can’t seriously argue that

Jeff being someone named Eric>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric being someone named Eric.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

but you can't tell me that having someone named Eric

no matter how Ericy he is, is more important than having an all-stats guy

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is Eric Stephen mean?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

How many good years of stats can you honestly say Jeff has left in him?

2? 3? then stick a fork in him.

But Eric is going to be Eric for the next 5-10 years.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

do you think he will ever improve his stats though?

when Russ is rockpiling, we need a stats guy behind him and I just don’t trust Eric like that

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is the "+" used to negate differences in home bathrooms?

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

The obscurity level of the reference was high

Jenn would say I was “vaguebooking”.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

now that I looked at it again

hilarious.

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by Maria M on Jul 16, 2010 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

How do you feel about pitching wins and BA.......

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh here we go.

Our staff needs stats. Russ is a rockpiler and we need people to back him up.

Do you know what Russ’s rockpile to game wrap/pebble report ration was in the first half?

1:2.4.

That’s right. Russ is not nearly the Rockpiler everyone makes him out to be.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

But is Rockpiling a more significant stat that Know Yer Foeing?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Know Yer Foeing is kinda like being an Eagle Scout

Be prepared, yo.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 16, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

So, its more important then?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 16, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

but you're completely forgetting how important having an Eric on staff would be

/looks up www.purplerow-reference.com

See? We had a .234 quality pebble report score last year at this time. Now things may be good now, but in 6 months you really want to face McCovey Chronicles with that kind of black hole in your weekly rotation? Besides if we grab Eric Stephen, that means the rest of the blogs can’t obtain that quality Eric.

Stats are replaceable and we don’t have a homegrown Eric ready right now. We just don’t.

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by Muzia on Jul 16, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up