Rockies stop executing for Hammer (or Hammel) time, lose to Reds 3-2
by Rox Girl on Jul 16, 2010 9:16 PM MDT
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PrintCertain aspects of this game clearly pointed to the fact that we had the inferior team on the field for much of the night:
- Bronson Arroyo was dominating, giving up mostly weak contact throughout his seven plus innings.
- Jason Hammel was not, getting hit hard at times but staying tough and getting a deep quality start in the loss
- The Reds defense executed when it needed to, turning double plays and making outs on difficult and easy plays alike
- The Rockies defense failed to execute, twice losing potential pick-offs they should have had and looking a bit less timely than the Reds on other chances.
Despite those issues, the Rockies still could have won this game if their offense could have come through in a critical bases loaded, no out situation in the eighth inning with their first three hitters coming to the plate against Reds All-Star Arthur Rhodes. Three failed attempts by Dexter Fowler, Jonathan Herrera and Carlos Gonzalez later, the game was back in Cincinnati's court and the rally (the kind the Rockies came up with often while at home before the All Star break) was squashed.
I guess then what I'm claiming as execution isn't a basic, throw the ball, catch the ball, hit the ball sort of things that all MLB players usually do at a degree above anybody else, it was just that little extra bit of effort that you will usually see separate the playoff teams from the pretenders. So the short summary of this game would be that the Rockies tonight didn't look like a playoff team should, letting the steamy Cincinnati weather sap the spark they had a week ago at Coors Field.
The good news, that little which we can get from a 3-2 loss, is that Hammel didn't get Hammered, unless you count by the rapper in attendance for a pre and postgame concert, and that the Rockies bullpen was barely touched with ten games still left on the road trip. Second, the Rockies were too legit too quit, even if not being legit enough to win, coming back from a 3-0 deficit and not giving up despite Arroyo's early dominance. Miguel Olivo homered (barely) in the seventh and Jason Giambi came through once in the clutch to drive in Carlos Gonzalez for the Rockies other run in the eighth.
So let's just pray to make it (a win) today tomorrow.
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wut? I wasn't even here for the whole game...Are you sure about that number?
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That seems crazy! Seriously...I don't understand...
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LOLBlabbermouth!!!
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
well duh
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you had five posts after the Overflow was posted in the first thread...
Clearly you can no longer help yourself. If I wasn’t one of your dealers here, I’d suggest you get some help.
I didn't realize the overflow had overflowed..
I seriously missed like 4 innings…
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Sounds like Barney reruns for both you and Mom!LOL
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
fffff...never
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Talk about statpadding!
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
okay this is pretty funny from MCC re Molina's cycle
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/7/16/1574054/gamethread-the-second#42245992
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From my Red Sox fan cousin on Monina's cycle (triple)
“How the **** do you let the big tub of goo get a triple agaisnt you? "
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
It could not have happened against a better team....hehhehehehehe
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I wish i had some way of conveying how funny it was to watch with Red Sox fans
Many things that can’t be typed here were said after both the grand slam and the cycle
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions
NESN just timed Molina's triple
It took him 16 seconds to get third. If that was anyone else they would have had a grad slam and an inside the park home run in the same game.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
twice for dex ...on both
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When the Goo is stuck on the ball
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Let' just keep remembering that we've been winning without Tulo.
How awesome will it be when Tulo returns? Seriously
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I didn't see this game but it seems like the Rockies tend to execute more in there types of games more consistantly at home
I know this is true with most teams but the Rockies seem to take it to another level.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:34 PM MDT reply actions
there these
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
true...very close opportunities
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Was the 8th the only really great opportunity for the Rockies?
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
yes...Arroyo was one Herrera from a perfect game
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He finally gave way in the 7th and then we had the bases loaded in the 8th with no one out
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Okay
This makes me feel a little better. Sometimes you just run into a buzz saw. If the Rockies still had a chance to beat a division leading team on the Road after that I can’t be too mad
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I came in late...
It just sounded like the Reds played a better game today
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
it was there for the taking...but Dex didn't hit the sac fly deep enough
Herrera was called out on strikes on a close inside pitch. CarGo had a really terrible AB…..honestly…
But we seriously didn’t get a baserunner (Herrera) until the 5th or 6th…Arroyo was lights out
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Arroyo seems to have a few of those games a year
He’s a really tough pitcher to figure out
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
No lie
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
And he's a good hitting pitcher too
Quite a unique player
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't forget, Ian struck out to end the game with a runner on
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
well, I started realizing that RoxGirl gets paid for this...lol
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Like excrement...
Games like these occur no matter how good or bad you are. It just happens
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
This seems to be singling out Stewart
That one AB in the ninth wasn’t nearly as devastating as the fact that he didn’t score the tying run after walking in the eighth. He did a good job as a rally starter, a poor one as a rally finisher, but Fowler and Herrera and a couple of others did poorly in both situations all night.
I dunno, from what I saw, he clearly gets gunned if he tries to score on Dex's fly.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's what I'm saying...
it wasn’t his fault he didn’t score in the eighth, it was Dex’s, Herrera’s and Cargo’s and their failures there were many times worse than Stewart’s inability to come through as a rally finisher (or continuer) in the next inning.
I agree. Do you wonder if burning Hawpe was wise? I had some heartburn with that
decision
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Spilly did not have a quality AB...
I think it was a match up thing and likely Hawpe doesn’t do well against Rhoades
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
In the stands, I immediately questioned it
In retrospect, it seems right. You’re not really playing for extra innings on the road, that was our one really good opportunity to get a win and Spilly was the better choice once Rhodes came in. Hawpe’s job essentially came down to making sure a dominant starter got removed from the game with less than 90 pitches thrown, and he succeeded at that job..
ah, gotcha.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Ian's strikeouts just seem to come at the worst times.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
See, this is why I'm thinking you're unfairly singling him out in this case.
There seems to be a preconceived narrative that Stewart’s K’s are destructive to the team and therefore every time he strikes out, he gets hammered on Purple Row.
I’m not saying the K’s aren’t bad, I’d much prefer non-outs, but in this case, Stewart’s final K wasn’t as critical as any of the five outs that preceded it. If any one of Dex, Herrera, CarGo, Giambi or Smith comes through in situations that most of them had a platoon advantage over the pitcher, the Stewart K would be an afterthought.
Bingo!
Dex, Herrera, and company were all disappointing tonight. Can’t lay it all on Stew. Losing, just like winning, is a team effort.
Get your purple on.
I'm not laying the loss on Stewart. All I said was don't forget about his strikeout.
I totally agree that there’s plenty of blame to go around. I just get really frustrated with Ian when he strikes out 25% of his plate appearances and many of them seem to me to be when we need him to drive in a run or move a runner along.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
wait, I wasn't in the game thread
and could not hear the tv where I was.
But didn’t he get hit by the pitch immediately preceding the one he struck out on?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
looked like it to me. I couldn't understand why he didn't take the base. Not sure if the ump missed it.
They seemed to have a short chat about it.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by pedalpusher on Jul 16, 2010 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you today...
Stewart still is not adjusting well. He’s better than last year but still not good. The light may still yet go on in the closet: hopefully before he winds up in another uniform
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I'm still pleased with Herrera overall...
You guys might think I’m crazy but thirty five years ago; what he’s doing now is what was expected of the avereage 2B. Maybe he won’t sustain it. I think He’s realized it’s his only chance to stick in the Majors. I can tell you LaRussa appreciates him.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I love Herrera. And I've always thought of 2b in this way. Hence, the Barmeys of the world
and Kazs’ and Carroll etc
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I think appreciate is not the word, LaRussa would use..
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The one thing I respect about LaRussa is the way he uses an Eckstien or an Aaron Miles
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Definitely still pleased with him and what he's done overall
This game was his turn to be a bit of a goat, though. It’s going to happen to every player, even the stars (and Herrera’s not one) over the course of a season.
I don't expect him to be an RBI producer anyway.
His job is to get on and score runs. Play small ball behind the runner and be the good glove
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Well so much for the Dbacks helping us...Pads ahead 5-1 now
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bounce back tomorrow
that is all
Get better Tulo....time to rally around each other and hang in there until our Mr. everything returns
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
Giants just executed a suiced squeeze against the Mets
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What's the score?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
1-0 SF
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Is Beltran playing?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
yes
Ubaldo Jimenez: Your Cy Young awaits in 2010
Brad Hawpe: 1B, RF so long as you stay a Rockie
Todd and Troy: Get well soon
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I wonder if he will kickstart them?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
hard to say. Zito is dealing tonight...
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Sounds like Niese is keeping it close.
If not for Ike Davis; the Mets have considered moveing Beltran to 1B yo save his knees
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Whew!
What a day! Couldn’t catch the game…hopefully tomorrow.
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This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 9:51 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Hopefully!!!
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Brad Hawpe: 1B, RF so long as you stay a Rockie
Todd and Troy: Get well soon
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well, hopefully
you can be in the Rockpile more tomorrow….it seems I have been acting up without you…
/has no idea what has gone on the past few days
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 11:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Okay I'm watching Dateline and they
are doing a speed dating test. And switching people who look similar with someone else. 8 out of 9 men didn’t notice the women had changed…
Ubaldo Jimenez: Your Cy Young awaits in 2010
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So Barry Zito's uncle is Patrick Duffy????
whahhhhaaaaa??
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Wait, really?
I saw Patrick Duffy and Susanne Somers (sp?) once. I was in the Rose Parade and I was on the end of the row next to the cameras, and we happened to go right past Patrick and Susanne walking down the street (I assume they were announcing it for one of the networks and were on a break). They were like two feet from me. That’s one of my celebrity sightings.
Okay everyone I've got to go
I have 5th row tickets to see the Rangers and Red Sox tomorrow (birthday present) and I can’t wait to see Cliff Lee destroy to Red Sox. See you guys later.
Get well soon Tulo. The Rockies need you.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 16, 2010 10:03 PM MDT reply actions
Make a sign!!! PR supports Cliff Lee's destruction of the Sox...or something
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well that aint bad
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jul 16, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
No mention of Dex's glove?
i think he deserved it.
Is that four tacos in your pocket, or are you just happy to see the Rockies scoring 7 or more runs?
by fantasyfencing on Jul 16, 2010 10:03 PM MDT reply actions
Web Gem #1
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i meant in the game wrap :3
Is that four tacos in your pocket, or are you just happy to see the Rockies scoring 7 or more runs?
by fantasyfencing on Jul 16, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
doh!!!
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This is true.
After watching video of the play. I wish I could have seen it better live. My view on it was obstructed by Reds fans.
Not gonna cut it
The game was ours for the taking, but we couldn’t execute a simple sacrifice to even tie it. If we’re gonna be contenders, we have got to make these situations count. ChessMaster Tracy out thought himself tonight in the 8th. I get the “insert Hawpe so they’ll have to go the pen” idea, but then sending Spilly up to bunt? I don’t get it. After that, it was all “swing for the fences”.
End of rant. Get ’em tomorrow.
Get your purple on.
Dex wasn't swinging for the fences...
…let me guess, you’re one of the people who wanted him to put it on the ground? OK, that’s a GIDP, you have one man on either 2B or 3B, and 2 out.
He was TRYING to hit a SF, which leaves you with men on 3B and 1B, 1 out…and gives you the best chance to get beyond the tie to the victory…
although that GIDP should have scored one...
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Fine, then you've got a tie game, but the advantage is still all towards CIN in that situation. You wind up needing a HIT to get the winning run...
…whereas if you actually get the SF deep enough, you tie the game up and have a man in position to score on another SF.
I’m not blaming Dex for his plan, only for his result; and I’d be furious if he’d been trying to put it on the ground
Uh, no
I was one of the people who wanted him to put the ball in the play. Dex was over-swinging trying to do that. Hence the “swing for the fences” analogy.
Get your purple on.
Oh, sorry *blush*
I really didn’t see Dex as overswinging all that much, just getting under the ball more than he should have…
And Herrera did the same thing.
It’s all part of the process of growing players. As somebody once said, “If baseball was easy, everyone would be playing it.”
/or something like that
Get your purple on.
Herrera? He didn't pop out...
…he K’d on a pitch that he had no excuse to watch, since he had to know the strike zone for the night by then…
Really, though, the only one I’m mad at is CarGo, who swung at three balls…
and your blaming tracy for that?
by purplesocks on Jul 17, 2010 3:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
color me shocked
no hits on the road. really we only need 5 wins on this trip so I’m not panicking, but this offense flat out stinks on the road, and has all year, and we’re going to lose a lot of 3-2 efforts unless some of these guys start hitting like professionals on the road.
How many teams have winning records on the road this year? 5 or 6?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I've been a rox fan for far too long
to expect a winning record on the road. I’m fine with .500. But it would be nice if 85% of our squad didn’t have a road OPS in the 600s.
Well that is still a legitimate Coors effect...
Balls still don’t break or move as much as at sealevel. The Rox need to build a cage at home that is realisticly pressureized and humidified to be like Atlanta or St. Louis for that to change.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
So, I had an interesting walk to the train station from my office.
First off, my ears about froze off. In July.
Second, I had the following conversation with random older dude in a Giants hat:
Random dude: Do you need a husband?
Me: Um, no.
Random dude: Are you sure you don’t need a husband?
Me: Yes, I’m good.
Random dude: Well, you could be my wife any day.
Me: Um, okay. Thanks!
That’s beyond weird.
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This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Jul 16, 2010 11:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It was sort of flattering in a weird way.
But still, weird. He looked like he might be one of the regular scalpers (I’m stereotyping here a bit—he African American, as are most of the scalpers that I see).
I don't agree that Hammel got hit hard
Rox Girl,
I don’t agree that Hammel got hit hard. Go back and look at the game again. He gave up 8 total hits and the first seven were all bloopers or just over the infield. It was not until Orlando Cabrerra’s double in the 5th that he gave up a hard hit ball. That also happened to be the last hit the Reds got in the game. To me that’s what made the game so frustrating. The Reds scored all their runs because of dinks and dunks without ever really getting into Hammel. I thought Hammel actually pitched really well, he was just unlucky.
And he should have been either off the hook or in line for the win after the 8th.
Bases loaded 0outs and you don’t score is unacceptable.
Maybe we're looking at a different game. Brandon Phillips had him figured out.
None of his hits were cheapies, he got good contact on all of them, particularly the double. The bloops or dinks came, but so did plenty of line drives and balls were regularly clearing the infield, even on the fouls. Of course, Fowler saved Hammel from a home run blast and another run scoring. I don’t think Hammel was particularly ineffective, and at times he was really sharp, this isn’t like some of Cook or Francis’ recent starts, but I definitely don’t think a case can be made that he was the better starter this game. Compared to Arroyo, though, he just wasn’t in the same class last night.
I agree that Arroyo was better, I just disagree that Hammel was hit hard
No doubt that Arroyo was lights out and was the better pitcher last night. And no doubt that Phillips had a good night, and I don’t mean to imply that he was lucky either. I’m just not sure I agree that Hammel was “hit hard”. None of Phillips hits were particularly hard (even though you’re correct that he had solid contact on them and they weren’t cheapies). But every single one of them, even the double, were just beyond the infield. They were just well placed. The double just happened to roll into the gap but it was not hit with any more authority than his singles. In my opinion, of the 8 Reds hits, only Cabrerra’s double in the 5th was hit particularly hard. Bruce’s drive in the 5th that Dex stole was hit hard. And Gomes’ line drive in the 9th was roped hard, it just happened to be right a Seth Smith. Perhaps I’m splitting hairs about what a hard hit is, but my impression is that all but one of the Reds hits were just simply well placed as opposed to hard hit drives. And of all the outs the Reds made, only Bruce in the 5th and Gomes in the 9th really barreled up the ball. BTW after going back and re-reading your article, I realize that I misread what you said. You didn’t say Hammel was hit hard all night, you said he was hit hard at times. I can agree with that. I just don’t think he was hit hard as much as the Reds hits just found holes.
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