Buyers or Sellers: Pruning the Bonsai Tree
As a recent trend shows, the Rockies do not perform well in even numbered years. We like to make the playoffs in odd-numbered years and unfortunately 2011 can't come soon enough. As Andrew Martin pointed out, many teams have had losing streaks and have contended and made the playoffs and gotten through them. But the recent road trip showed, we aren't a clutch team, we can't score runs, our pitching is inconsistent, and we don't look like a ball club that wants to make the playoffs let alone contend for a World Series. Our lineup is good but it does not strike fear into an opposing team. While Carlos Gonzalez is having a career year and will be a great player in my opinion, he still lacks plate discipline. The Return of the man named Troy will provide some girth to our lineup, but even before he was hurt the lineup didn't strike a lot of fear into a pitcher. Yes with a good Ubbaldo on the mound, we are much more likely to be able to win a playoff series but without a consistent number two starter it is still somewhat unlikely given our ability to hit the ball. With all the culmination of these things, Todd Helton's decline, our shuffling lineup, the Chinese fire drill they call our bullpen, and not wanting to spend big money at the deadline to improve our team...I think its time to sell. By sell, I mean sell wisely, not just fire up the chainsaw and chop down the forest, but rather take out the clippers and prune the bonsai tree.We can load up on prospects at the deadline and maybe use them to make a splash in the off-season or next season.
Pruning the bonsai tree
Brad Hawpe- Has lost it ever since the All-Star Break last year. Possibly a change of scenery could help him and we have Seth Smith who has proved he can play at an everyday MLB level. Rumor has it the White Sox are keeping him in mind as a plan B or plan C.
Jorge De La Rosa- Yes he was awesome, but since his injury has been inconsistent. He could be very valuable to a contending team. We can wait and see what he does tonight, and if he is great maybe we want to keep him, or increase his trade value to a contending team. Could gain us a prospect or two and could be a free agent at years end and is classified as a Type B.
Aaron Cook - Not sure if I want to part with him, but on the books for next year at $9.25 million. Could be valuable trade for a contending team as well.
Jason Giambi- Love the guy but if we can get anything for him and send him to a contender lets do it.
Rafael Betancourt and Joe Beimel- In an extremely weak reliever market we could get a team or two to overpay for these guys. These guys are crucial to our bullpen so this would be a big decision. We could get a decent amount in return especially if we lower our asking price vs what the Toronto Blue Jays are asking for their relievers.
Melvin Mora- Valuable utility player and I think we could part with him if we get something in return.
This is a lot of pruning, but these are pruning options as the deadline approaches these are moves that could help our team long term. Obviously there is no better feeling than Rocktober and want that feeling more than anything again this year. I think even with these moves made we could still contend for the Wild Card spot. Although we could prune these leaves off of the busy, we could still acquire a Jorge Cantu or look to package the prospects we get to make a bigger splash. As fall approaches and the deadline to make a move or not comes, I think the Rockies can prune their bonsai tree and benefit the future of the ball club tremendously.
Eat. Drink. Be Merry. But the above FanPost does not necessarily reflect the attitudes, opinions, or views of Purple Row's staff (unless, of course, it's written by the staff [and even then, it still might not]).
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I think you are being optimistic
that anyone would trade anything significant for Hawpe, Mora, Giambi and Cook. Hawpe is terribly cold and people are a little wary of picking up guys that produced well for the rockies, although Hawpe does have better away numbers. (Atkins) Mora is 38 I believe and isn’t worth anything as a rental as he wouldn’t start for a contending team. Giambi is great but no one would use him anymore than the Rockies are meaning they won’t give up anything to get him. They’d rather just monitor the wire and wait for a similar player. As you said Cook is owed almost 10 million, who would pick up that as well as giving up prospects for a middle of the road starter. All these guys are worth more than they would bring back in a trade. We don’t have any Oswalts or Berkmans that are getting in the way of rebuiding as most of the Rockies are under team friendly contracts for a good amount of time. I’d be against buying much as well, you created this team you are getting back your two leaders in the near future, let them play it out and see what happens.
I am being very optimistic
but I would take what we could get for em.
People take many things way too serious.
I can get a rise out of you.
I would try to get rid of...
Hawpe, Giambi, and Cook. And with what we get back, which might not be much, try and get some more batters. Manly at 1B and some where in the OF. I also would consider trading Fowler for the right player or group of players. I love the kid, it just seems to me he doesn’t always get it.
My wish list for 1B: Adam Dunn; Prince Fielder, but both players wouldn’t give us much in the long run, so next would be Billy Butler from KC, or Kila Ka’aihue from KC as well, but on there AAA team.
As far as OF goes, we could be very open to who we get. As in the player could play any position because we have CarGo, Smith and Spilly to fill in the rest.
by Bron#1 Fan on Jul 27, 2010 12:49 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I had the same thought about Fowler and Spilly as well but I love them both, however whatever is best for the ball club not fan favorites.
Billy Butler would be my first choice.
People take many things way too serious.
I can get a rise out of you.
Might have to include another prospect but it would be sweet.
2B________
LF/RF Smith
SS Tulo
CFGonzalez
1B Butler
3B Stewart
C_______
LF/RF-Spilly
People take many things way too serious.
I can get a rise out of you.
didn't we have him last year?
People take many things way too serious.
I can get a rise out of you.
2008 he was with Colorado.
He has since gone to the White Sox and the Royals. Hitting .305 with 60SB’s, and 12 3b’s. Would be nice to have some base running treats. Fowler’s not doing it. EY2 is hurt. Don’t understand why Herrera can’t steal some bags.
When CarGo leads our team in SB’s…that’s not good. I know CarGo has speed, but we need him for his HR’s and RBI’s.
Albert Pujols
leads the Cardinals in SB
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
no but they have Rasmus
and Holliday who should both have 20-30 steals a year
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
Good its settled
Lets sell the farm for Billy Butler
People take many things way too serious.
I can get a rise out of you.
I really like that Chris Nelson kid I think he could be good
I would rather have him play than Johnny Hererra personally. I just feel he has more upside and looks way more athletic
People take many things way too serious.
I can get a rise out of you.
The Rockies aren't going to get any better than they are now
if they don’t get someone with a big bat that opposing pitchers fear. I don’t see any of that type of talent in the farm system. However, I do see a lot of pitching talent in the minors. The cliche is you can never have enough pitching, which is probably true, but lets trade some of that pitching talent for a power 1B. 1B is the biggest hole for this team right now and as much as I love Helton I think that his next gig as the Rockies hitting coach is coming sooner rather than later.
We would have to pay for a Prince Fielder or Adrian Gonzales. Front office should getir done!
Enough of this mediocrity...win the NL West title
VOTE: Hawpe for 1B! ---- Hawpe for 1B!
Seth Smith: Excellent Beard!
I would rather get a younger bat...
like Butler. You are going to have to pay the same price so why not get the young less expensive player. Plus Butler is right handed.
I like Butler
but don’t think that KC will trade him as he is young. I’m pretty sure that he bats left and throws righty. I also think that we should get a bigger bat….more HR’s.
Enough of this mediocrity...win the NL West title
VOTE: Hawpe for 1B! ---- Hawpe for 1B!
Seth Smith: Excellent Beard!
My bad he does bat righty
Enough of this mediocrity...win the NL West title
VOTE: Hawpe for 1B! ---- Hawpe for 1B!
Seth Smith: Excellent Beard!
If we go after more power then Fielder or Dunn.
We would have to be able to re-sign them after this year. I believe that Fielder is Arb. eligible?
Mark Reynolds to 1B?
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
He can't be as much of a butcher at 1B as he is at 3B, so why not?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
What?!
Why is everybody suddenly writing off the the Rockies already?
Granted I think the Rockies should trim the tree…i.e. trade Rafael Betancourt, Brad Hawpe and JDLR for prospects. This season is far from over…everybody ( last time I check) are still expecting the Padres, Dodgers, and Giants to collapse.
Where is the faith?
Jholy Chacin should take JDLR place.
Making facetious trade rumors since 2012AD
Trim the tree--we still have a strong trunk to keep us standing
Addition by subtraction—let’s see Chris Nelson, Jhoulys and others back on the big squad!
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