Thursday Rockpile: Mostly dead isn't all dead, but it's still mostly dead
by Rox Girl on Jul 29, 2010 7:46 AM MDT
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PrintAll season long many here, and I've been inclined to believe them, have been pressing the point that the Rockies can't rely on miracle runs from
to squeak into the playoffs at the end of the season. But.., uhm, yeah, that plan, the one with a smooth and easy ride to the team's first division title ever seems to have derailed slightly. Relying on said miracle is once again all we have left for 2010. So uh, yeah, carry on with the miracle boys. There's no pressure anymore, I don't think anybody's expecting much from you now.
In the meantime, the pragmatists among us (this should hopefully include Dan O'Dowd, while Jim Tracy can remain in the hopeless optimist camp) start looking to 2011, and for this a hard look at what's handicapping the franchise needs to be considered.
Offense has been an issue all season, no? Here's the Rockies MLB rank in wOBA in the eight non-pitcher positions:
- Catcher: 1
- First base: 18
- Second base: 22
- Shortstop: 1
- Third base: 12
- Right field: 23
- Center field: 12
- Left field: 5
Let me be very blunt. If the Rockies fail to make the playoffs in 2010, it will be because three of their veterans they were relying on to be better than the naysayers were claiming they'd be, failed to even be mediocre offensively. People are getting on Todd Helton a lot this year, but to me, Brad Hawpe is the biggest contributor to the team's current position.
If we're looking at 2011, the Rockies simply can't afford to be nostalgic about all three of the Helton/Hawpe/Barmes trio anymore and must seek out consistent league average or above offense for a couple of these positions. I think the Rockies can be safe keeping one nostalgic laggard, and given his face of the franchise status, that would seemingly be Helton, but in order to do so they need to excise Hawpe and Barmes, or at the very least reduce the latter's role to utility. I know this is stuff many of us have been calling for, but until Hawpe's offensive breakdown, it wasn't as necessary for the team's playoff chances as it's become since.
What this means is that O'Dowd is absolutely correct in shopping Hawpe ahead of this weekend's trade deadline, and he should probably take the best available offer so long as it's a more likely MLB contribution than a typical supplemental round draft pick.
- Rockies season in peril after eighth straight loss - Remember a few weeks ago when Troy Renck wrote that the Rockies needed to play better against the bad teams? Yeah, about that...
- Rockies plagued by harsh Central Division blues - guess which is the worst division in baseball this season.
- Helton begins rehab assignment Friday in Casper - Todd, even though the season is in post apocalyptic ruin and some Rockies fans have resorted to cannibalism to survive, please keep Tina Turner's advice in mind and just come back healthy. We'll take you as you are.
- Rockies evaluate whether to be buyers or sellers - same goes for you O'Dowd. Just make the team as strong as you can without weakening our hope for the next few years.
- Report: Rockies more likely to be sellers - and as Steve Foster indicates from a Ken Rosenthal report, that previous evaluation has been given much clarity the last two days. Honestly, I think this will be a boon to the team and could wind up helping us this year as well as next if these reports are true. I'll miss the three players being shopped (Hawpe, Aaron Cook, Joe Beimel) and they definitely have their places in Rockies history (the first two it should be obvious why, Beimel just for his official Rox robe and Johnny Cash).
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Rosenthal also tweeted that the Rockies could re-sign JDLR
Linked here and if that happens during the season, it would mean Jeff Francis’ option would be less likely to get picked up. I still think it would be a wise decision to, however.
If we take exercise Francis' option, sign DLR AND fail to trade Cook...
… what do we do with Chacin? I’m still in favor of declining Francis’ option, especially if we do keep DLR.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions
If you resign DLR during the season, I don't see how you pick up Francis' option.
Chacin will be in this rotation next year, I just can’t see how he isn’t
he will be, and Cook is the likely one to move
Francis’ option is cheap if he continues to pitch effectively
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No one will take Cook.
In this situation, we’re either VERY lucky with a trade, or we release him. Cook is gonna be on the 2011 team if he’s still in the organization, period.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
He's already signed to a major league contract.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
as we've said a million times
not that simple
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions
That's the cruddy thing
He loses all that weight so he doesn’t get hurt, and it screws up his mechanics so badly that we all wish he would get hurt so Chacin could take his place.
either that, or he's just starting to get old, lose his effectiveness?
the 2010 Rockies defense does him no favours though
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And how do you get him there?
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions
beat me to it
We can’t just magically make the problem go away and still retain Cook, we owe him money, and unless another team makes a waiver claim or makes a trade for him, we’re on the hook for all of it.
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions
He seems to pitch well whilst in Cincinnati
Do you think they would make a play for him?
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Cincy's rotation is STACKED right now
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
What about bullpen help for Cincy?
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Nobody would may 9.25 million for a long reliever via trade
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
not without us taking like Arroyo or someone back
and that’s just meant to be a $$ for $$ comp, I’m not even looking farther than that
we’d all bitch about Arroyo even more than Cook
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't
Arroyo is a contender for my favorite non-Rockies player. :D
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
You underestimate Cook and his value.
I don’t know why you’ve come to this determination, but teams will take Aaron Cook, they just won’t at his salary.
The salary is precisely what I'm referring to.
Everything we have heard says that interest in Cook is incredibly limited. Renck himself said there’s no market for him.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Rosenthal said the Phillies have "very limited interest"
You know he would report interest if there was any
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
And embellish it.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
What is true now isn't necessarily going to be true in August
or in November. How much interest in Jason Marquis did the Rockies have in July of 2008? Yet by the following January, guess who we traded for… I’m suspecting that Cook will either be moved via bad contract swap or salary dump before ST next season.
I'm so wrapped up in this trade deadline, I haven't been operating under the offseason timeline
I outright refuse to think that far yet.
/folds arms.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sealing the deal off as impossible.
But I think trading him will be difficult, particularly since he gets a salary kick if we do.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
or in august and september
im sure that Cook would clear waivers
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Sorry I was away for a little while
If the Rockies have all three in hand come next March, they make sure all three are healthy and pitching well and then they deal one. This idea of a five man rotation is getting somewhat outdated, the elite teams are going six and seven deep now to prepare for injury or other disasters. If the Rockies want to get ahead of the NL West, they should to.
I guess the concern is, where do you store the depth?
Long relief?
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
You can't store Cook or Francis in the Springs, and storing Chacin in the Springs would be a waste
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about Cook or Francis
More about the super-depth (to get to 6 or 7 or 8 deep) that the organization is fortunate enough to have. Cook needs to be dealt, and I’m not sure if they pick up Francis next year.
I think you fell off the conversation we were having since there was a blogn break between posts
RG is talking specifically about Cook, Francis, DLR, and Chacin in addition to Hammel and Cook, and finding a way to make that work.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
long*
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Hammel and Jimenez*
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Temporarily, sure... or if they're all healthy.
I’m saying that there’s a decent chance you wind up using the depth because somebody goes on the DL early. It happens about as frequently as it doesn’t, and when it does, you’d rather have a Francis quality of pitcher than a Josh Towers quality. Give Chacin the spot in the rotation, though.
Right, we're on the same wavelength here. But that's not what I'm asking.
Having a Cook or Francis for depth purposes with Jimenez-DLR-Hammel-Chac9in-Cook/Francis would be fine. But we can’t store them in the minors is my point. If you give Chacin the rotation slot, then your 6th starter with these pieces has to operate out of the bullpen somewhere, unless you literally have a constant 6 man rotation
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm liking the chances of my grandson
Having a ten year career of getting 10 starts a year as the ninth starter
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I thought my subject line answered you...
yes, use Cook or Francis as the really expensive long man in the pen until you can find a suitable trade partner if you’re forced to go into the season with everybody, but I really think that a) somebody will get hurt before then or b) you find a decent trade for one either before or during ST. Of all the possibilities, the one where all six of those starters are healthy and pitching well for the Rockies on April 1st seems the least likely, because if they were all healthy and pitching well, somebody would want them.
thanks for reminding me
at least we never saw Towers
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2b question...
So, how much longer until EY2 gets back from the DL? I’ve noticed he’s been rehabing in the springs and such. More to the point, when he’s healthy, does he replace Hererra on the MLB roster, or stay in the springs until September?
I guess I’m anxious to see who ends up grabbing the 2b of the future (2011) tag between EY2, Hererra, and Nelson. Any real indication that Nelson is at all ready for the bigs given his performance at AAA?
by attackparrot on Jul 29, 2010 7:59 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I think he "tweeted"
that he will be back soon. Granted, Nelson is a much stronger candidate to replace Barmes.
He'll be activated shortly, possibly as soon as today.
He’ll either be optioned to AAA or he’ll replace Fowler, not Herrera.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions
This just tweeted...seems about par right now
prediction for tonight’s game: Olivo will get thrown out after trying to stretch a walk into a double.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
That stretch by Tulo (I think) last night was the moment I disgustingly turned the game off.
Seth Smith's beard looks on in anticipation.
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Nelson has the highest upside, Herrera is black Ichiro
Seems to me EY2 is a distant third right now. Few people are excited about him making the team better, even at his ceiling. Another trade chip?
Black Ichiro?
Despite being horribly incorrect ethnically, Herrera has NOTHING to be compared with Ichiro except that maybe he slaps singles. Whereas Ichiro does by design (god knows he can’t screw up that OBP or AVG), that’s pretty much all Herrera has the ability to do. On top of that, Ichiro has speed. Why do people think Herrera’s fast? Because he’s short? Sorry guy, he’s not fast and that leaves him lacking in the SB department, another strength of Ichiro’s game.
You surprise me. You’re normally much more on than this…
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
I doubt biondino was extending the comparison that far
just having a laugh at the fact that Herrera is a slappy singles hitter
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there are like a million different comparisons to make there
perhaps Eckstein
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions
How about no comparisons...let's just let him be Jonny Herrera - rally sustainer.
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Yeah. These comps are too high concept.
Quick, describe your script baseball player in 25 words or less. Otherwise it won’t sell!
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions
he didn't GIDP though
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Well, you go ahead and ignore the rest of his time with us.
Unless this conversation is only about last night’s game.
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well, everyone seems to do that about the rest of the lineup
I thought I was just joining the game :-(
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
oh okay...I didn't know that was the game...I'm still half asleep this morning
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That skill is only useful
if we can actually get a rally started
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by Junction Rox on Jul 29, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Ichiro has some
massive power too, but he rarely uses it. I’ve always wanted to see him in the HR derby
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I'm tired of watching Cook
pitch reasonably well except for the one inning where he gives up a walk or two and six singles…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
yup
his game is boring and ineffectively inconsistent.
by cocainelips99 on Jul 29, 2010 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions
sounds like Hammel this year
especially at the beginning of the season
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Really?
From May 27 to July 16, a span of 11 starts, Hammel only had one bad game (6/24 v. Boston, and it wasn’t even that bad). He was probably the best pitcher on the team during that stretch.
previous to the DL stint, Hammel was TERRIBLE
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I did specify
at the beginning of the season
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sounds like Hammel this year
especially at the beginning of the season
Only at the beginning of the season. Thereafter, he’s been about as good as can be hoped.
no argument from me there
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That's not what the original post was referring to.
jrockies was suggesting that watching Hammel has been similar to watching Cook this year. That’s not really true, as Hammel has had a dominant stretch that accounts for more than half of his starts.
he said beginning of season Hammel
which was TERRIBLE
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It's semantics at this point,
but the clear inference was that watching Hammel this season has been akin to watching Cook. Maybe that’s not what was intended (given his strong pitching from the end of May until recently), but it’s how it reads.
clear inference
It was pretty clear that he was talking about pre-DL.
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by rockieprogress on Jul 29, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Whatever, it boils down to this:
I’m tired of watching Cook
pitch reasonably well except for the one inning where he gives up a walk or two and six singles…
sounds like Hammel this year
especially at the beginning of the season
However you want to interpret that is fine.
simple comment
I wrote it wrong. I realize Hammel has been the best pitcher since he came back from the DL. At the beginning of the year it was 1 bad inning and the last couple losses he has taken have been the same sort of thing.
Josh Johnson for CY Young?
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Fair enough. I didn't mean to harp on it.
It’s just getting hard enough to keep straight who have been the best pieces to the team this year, since everyone has had their bad times. Hammel, pre-DL aside, belongs on the right side of the good performance fence.
absolutely
the ups and downs of the season for sure. I hope a couple people can turn around and end on the upside from where they currently are.
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uhhhh what? Hammel has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than Cook...
Prior to his DL sting he was bad…but since then he’s been pretty dang good
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If Dan can get
rid of Hawpe for more than the comp pick and Cook for anything (as long as we dump most/all of his 2011 salary) I’ll be very happy.
abandon hope we dump most or all of his salary
we’re gonna be on the hook for some of it, provided he gets moved. There are FAR better SP on the market than Cook, demand will be very low
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We would need to take at least half of it.
My guess, is that if he is traded, it will be later in the offseason, or perhaps in august.
once Oswalt moves
we have a slim chance
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
yeah, I mention that below
ok, Oswalt and Lilly move now, Cookie gets moved in a desperation move from some borderline team
I feel bad saying this
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
I could see that happening... he's like a practice girl at this point.
The thing about O’Dowd moving players is that there isn’t much point to getting rid of Hawpe and his expensive, but certain to be declined option, because it doesn’t clear payroll. Unless Hawpe is sure to accept an arb offer after his option is declined.
The only candidates worth moving are Cook and Betancourt (but particularly Betancourt, because the team doesn’t need to be paying a setup guy $3.775M next year).
unless we're seeing ourselves right back in the thick of it next year
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Frankly, without a 1B or 2B, it's hard to see.
The rotation might be ok, but I see one of Daley or Buchholz being able to set up next year if the team is in contention.
I don't see Daley as good enough to be an 8th inning guy
jury is still out on Betancourt
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Previous experience plus his minor league peripherals aren't all bad.
Given the length of time off, his control isn’t as bad as it could be and he still can get strikeouts at an acceptable rate.
Further, the team will be paying a combined $7.25M to Corpas and Betancourt next year. Corpas is basically a sunk cost, to borrow a favorite Fangraphs phrase, but that’s a lot of money tied up in two relievers when there are other RH in the minor leagues who either have the talent (Buchholz) or the potential (Daley, Rogers) to do as well as Betancourt.
I want to keep Bets
He is still pretty high quality. Plus, I don’t trust Buchholz or Corpas or Belisle to set up next year.
What's a practice girl?
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Sliiiiiiiiim
It would take us paying for the majority of this years salary (2 of the 3 million or so left), a good chunk of next years salary (4 of the 10.25) and his buyout in 2012. It remains to be seen if the Rockies want him off the team that bad.
That would be nice.
I would also love to get a good 1B prospect out of Beimel. That would be awesome.
we shouldve traded casey blake for carlos santana
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I'd also like to move Clint Barmes for Chris Coghlan
I really doubt that any 1B prospect that could really do anything would be had for Beimel.
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
I just don't understand why we would move Beimel?
He’s done well for us in large part….
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he's a FA next year
and when you have a guy like Matt Reynolds in the wings, we could probably view Beimel as a luxury
plus he’s been terribad the past month
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
he cost us nothing and could give us a decent prospect in return
plus we have Reynolds beating down the doo—
and everyone types faster than me
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Okay, thanks everyone
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I love that you thanked my incomplete sentence :)
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Yep
Good managment to sign a lefty to a minor league deal right before the season starts, and move him for a decent prospect at the deadline. Very Billy Beane-ish
this FO has to decide if we've got a chance to get into the post season. If yes, we keep him. If no, we move him now.
And I really really like Beimel. But if we’re raising the white flag, get something for him now.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
Beimel's presence on the team will not be responsible for getting us there, over not getting us there.
Trading Beimel isn’t a sign of a white flag, I feel, nor is Hawpe.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed, and neither is Cook
In fact, none of these guys, considering how little they actually contribute, are white flag trades. Think of it as trimming fat as opposed to firesale.
Agree but if we were to make a run, I'd sure rather have Beimel as the primary LOOGY vs. Flores.
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K/9 is very sexy
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Well, I’m off to a nice fishing/camping retreat with my church and family.
Go Rockies.
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This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Jul 29, 2010 8:31 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
It should be relaxing.
I’m just gonna go up there and breathe the mountain air. Maybe think about my life. This is my first time with a fishing liscense, so now I can catch 4!
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Hmmm.
nothing like fresh fish cooking on a camp fire in the mtns. to clear your mind and restore your soul. Have fun!!
Thanks!
I will!
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 29, 2010 8:43 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
sounds like fun
I wish I could go
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So we're not rifling through their pockets for loose change yet?
Darn. I suspect the average Rockies idea of loose change is much higher than mine.
Tornadough! Tornadough! Tornadough!
The only enjoyment that I've gotten from this series thus far...
seriously is watching Andrew McCutchen make brilliant plays. As a fan of baseball you have to appreciate that kind of talent. But damn, he’s single handedly made winning difficult. Throw in the Rockies’ propensity for crapping themselves, and you’ve just lost two to the Pirates.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
That guy is freaking amazing.
Great guy to watch for sure.
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I wish he were on our team
Get him, Dan. Fowler for McCutchen, straight up.
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I would take this trade
in a heart beat.
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Doubt the Pirates would go for this. They're not that dumb (are they?).
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
I suggested the entire farm in trade for McC last night
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id do it but only for milledge
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
cmon
the milledge
also, I just ate Five Guys. That was discussed somewhere on this blog recently and I thought I’d share.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
You better include a top 5 PuRP in that trade too, or even Pittsburgh will laugh you off for a decade
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
which one?
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
all of them
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I'm not sure
But consider that the Pirates have flamed out on 1st round picks for a decade. They finally have one that looks like a star in the making. They wouldn’t even take an even deal for McCutchen. They’d have to be bowled over.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
IAWTC
He is a star and fun to watch as a baseball fan. I would pay money to watch him play. He again stole two more hits from the Rockies. I would be surprised if he played today after he hurt his sholder again on that Smith drive.
Enough of this mediocrity...win the NL West title
VOTE: Hawpe for 1B! ---- Hawpe for 1B!
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watching Cutch is awesome
shame he’s awesome against us
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions
New name?
Andrew McCatchin
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JFK
I met a guy at the game last night.
reminded me of you.
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Some drunken yahoo
talking exactly like how you post here. I even texted RMN about it.
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sitting in a scooter, probably pushing 3 bills and enough change to buy another mcnuggets
yelling and stuff when his oxygen tank would allow it
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
This hurts.
I am very passionate about this club. It is completely upsetting to see a team with this much talent go on a slide like this. I am also trying to be optimistic but the light at the end of the tunnel has turned very dim. Im not saying the season is over because i think the Rox have one final run in them and maybe just maybe still have a chance to make some noise. It starts today. If they can win today and sweep the cubs then take 2 from the giants we could be looking at things completely differant. Hey stranger things have happend.
"just win Baby"....... unless you draft jamarcus russell
Observations from the game last night
This team seems stressed – pressing too hard. Seems Cook just fell apart after the dropped ball last night – that led to the one big inning that kills us. Errors are killing this team right now – big time – and until they stop pressing and thinking too much I’m afraid its going to keep happening.
McCutchen is brilliant on the field. I don’t know how he got to the balls that he got to – but he was a huge factor in us losing last night.
CarGo’s huge homerun that nearly made it up to the third level was amazing. I’ve never seen a ball bounce of the rails up there – amazing.
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Cargo did hit that bomb pretty damn far......
But his dropped ball in center killed!
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It seems to me
That throughout the duration of this stretch, it’s never been just ONE thing that killed us or lost the game. It’s this team’s seeming inability to shake off a mistake and move forward and focus on the next pitch/play etc. It just compounds…and everyone loses a little composure and big time mistakes keep happening.
AND THIS PISSES ME OFF.
You are a professional ball player, paid millions to do a job. I don’t want to hear about pressure and I don’t want to hear about lack of focus. Do you damn job. Mistakes will happen. Let it go, move on and focus forward.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Aggreed
i cant really pinpoint a certain area of this team that is not lacking some sort of focus.
I just seems that they are in quicksand right now. The more they press to get out the further the sink.
"just win Baby"....... unless you draft jamarcus russell
You know what sucks about being a baseball player making millions of dollars?
You’re still a human being, prone to mistakes, overthinking, fear, etc.
I’m not giving up on this team as it stands now.
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Sometimes bad things happen to good people.
And, when the team was setting defensive records no one was saying, “Well, they’re getting paid to do this so we shouldn’t laud them too much.” They were getting praised for it, and rightfully so. When they screw up routine plays more than once in a blue moon, they deserve scorn. No one needs to moderate their judgment because someone is inherently fallible. That’s a given in life.
I'm not giving up on them by any stretch...
Oh boo hoo…“they’re only human”…so what? When I make mistakes, I have two options: I can dwell on it or I can pick up the pieces and move forward. There’s only one option that I can control any change.
They’re paid to do a job. DO IT. Right now they’re not even doing “just enough not to get fired.” They’re paid like their contracts are guaran…oh wait they are guaranteed. That’s WHY I’M PISSED. And that’s what I hate about the “they’re human too” approach: I don’t care, you’re paid a lot of money (guaranteed) and I expect to hold you to a higher standard.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
It's the mental mistakes
after the error that is costing the team so much. It killed me to see that last night….
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Exactly. Everyone's reaction to an error is horrible.
They dwell and pout on it, or overcompensate and continue the gaffes.
they need to watch Major League 2 before today's game
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I almost had the Cargo HR
on the ricochet but the security guard/ball boy grabbed it two feet in front of my glove and gave it to a little girl (which was probably better anyway).
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screw that.
I warned the kids sitting in front of me – if a foul ball comes this way – I’m getting it – and I’m not giving it to you – so you better catch it on your own.
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I would have kept the ball
but seeing as I have a few already it doesn’t matter too much to me
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I'm yet to grab one myself...
nothing came close to me last night though. The kids in front of me were fun – some jerk tried getting the wave going – and I told them that cool kids don’t do the wave – so we got a round of “let’s go rockies clap clap clapclapclap” going that everyone in the section loved.
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I'm glad
it failed all 12 times people tried to get it going.
I actually missed 4 balls yesterday. Two in BP were grabbed just in front of my glove by different people as I was leaning over a railing in the aisle in the Pavilion and then Carlos threw one to the crowd getting autographs and the guy in front of me wasn’t paying attention until the last second when his glove got in front of mine. It was really disappointing for me yesterday.
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Yeah they were great kids.
Sat still for the whole game – asked me a lot of baseball questions – and I was shocked that none of them chose Tulo as their favorite player.
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they probably hate his AB music
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
Yeah. That needs to change
and soon.
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You knowwww... we could blame the season on Miley Cyrus
In fact, I think we SHOULD…..who’s with me?
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okay
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A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
I'm down with that.
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yeah. That and a ungodly failure to hit with RISP.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
you misunderstand
Miley Cyrus is the reason we can’t hit with RISP, and can’t run the bases. She has cursed the team. Tulo must replace her song with Erasure. That is the only answer …well that and Jonny Herrera.
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lady behind me complained about it too
and I helped her in complaining
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I've never got one either
Though I’m Cincinnati last year stewie tossed me the ball he was warming up with before the game
I grew up watching Larry Walker and his mullet crush baseballs into the stands, its like a dream come true to see Tulo and his mullet do the same.
by WalkerFan33 on Jul 29, 2010 10:44 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Jeff Salazar
tossed me one at Coors when he played for AZ and I was 20 rows back in the OF. I just said his name and he tossed it to me.
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These games have given me an ulcer
I normally try to remain positive….but its being tested severely right now
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looks like Oswalt's a Phillie as soon as he gives the nod
Astros send Oswalt and 12M to the Phillies for J.A. Happ and 2 other prospects
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That would seem to make moving cook more likely aye?
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in an ideal world
Lilly will be the next one to go, and fast.
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so the philies trade Cliff Lee because they "couldnt afford his 8 million in salary this year"
only to trade for Oswalt who makes double that plus $15 mil next year. can we laugh at that cliff lee trade even more now? i really hope the braves or mets win the division and phily misses out on the WC
Well, sort of
Trading Lee helped them avoid trading Brown for Halladay. That looks like the right deal.
more please
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oh right
Cliff Lee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Phillies farm wasn’t that impressive to begin with. Having a rotation that included Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay would own.
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
As much as it would have utterly pissed me off
because I really hate the Phillies…that would have been a thing to behold
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So Rube is a rube
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i thought they were essentially two independent trades
did prospects from Seattle go to Toronto? I thought they traded lee to “restock” their farm while not paying his $8 mil a year salary
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
they were two separate trades
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Astros are supposedly picking up $10M
but it’s still a stupid scenario. Amaro Jr should be managing a Wendy’s.
Del Taco
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Rube would trade the Whattaburger for an arby's
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Arby's is awesome...what the hell
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Not as good as Whataburger.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
very little is, my friend
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Muzia speaks the truth
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by Mondogarage on Jul 29, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
I like the plain ole Arby's RB sandwich...
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yes please
Tornadough! Tornadough! Tornadough!
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by WalkInRight on Jul 29, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Can we make it the one next door to my work?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
You're not in San Diego are you
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL...that's funny
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Ubaldo, Troy, Hawpe, CarGo, and Spilly say "Germans?"
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what is whataburger and how have i not heard of it before?
is it a non-colorado thing?
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
wat
yes it’s not a colorado thing. i’ve only seen them in texas. pretty much the only thing i like about texas.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
they have them all over
New Mexico.
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If you are ever in Las Cruces NM
stop in at “Burger Nook” a little hole in the wall burger joint – amazing.
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really
I’ve been through Cruces but that was all – THROUGH Cruces
god I loved Blake’s
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
You stopped in Las Cruces
when you ran across the border? Ballsy.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
No my partner
has family there. Where she grew up.
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I stopped
at a little hole in the wall panineria in Palermo, Sicily and my friend Alan got sick.
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that all said
“The Owl Bar” just outside of Socorro is also amazing
and facemeltingly hot
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I didn't say they aren't.
I just said I’ve only seen them in Texas. F’n LISTEN…er…READ!
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Texas - and Southern-ish, I think
It’s good. But I’ll take Colorado’s options like Chipotle and Quizno’s instead.
wrong answer
correct answer = five guys
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
huh?
Five Guys >>>>>>>>>>> Chipotle/Quiznos
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
wait wait wait what is five guys? another burger place out of state?
i really need to get out more
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
There are two in Fort Collins now
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Two? This development makes me very happy
Whataburger pwns, but Five Guys is like the One Ring that rules over them all.
Whataburger is like one of the three rings for the Elves.
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by Mondogarage on Jul 29, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep
One right off campus, the other in the newly booming East Harmony area.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
two in Ft. Collins. Pretty good. And the fries are great.
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Five Guys is super tasty
But I feel my stomach fall to my knees upon leaving and have four unproductive hours after
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Texas. And it is fantastic.
!HAT A BURGER!!!
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
I've driven 8 hours for Whataburger and Blue Bell ice cream
wait, this isnt the OT thread
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Blue Bell Ice Cream
apparently there is a shop in Castle Rock that sells it (my mom told me yesterday)
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We have one up here
in Old Town that sells it.
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Serious Texas Bar B Que between Loveland and Ft. Collins sells it.
but only in half pints.
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
owned by one of my best friend's family actually
she JUST let me know about 3 months ago
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Blue Bell Ice Cream..............Absolutely the best. Absolutely.
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I shipped back 40 half gallons in the back of a pickup truck
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wow
My friend went down to Texas and picked some up for me, but that was in March. I haven’t had any since :(
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JFK
yes yes yes yes
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
Went to a bad baseball game last night
- Mistakes catching the ball in the outfield (CarGo)
- Mental mistakes on infield ground ball (Cook not covering 1st)
- bad baserunning (Tulo)
- not moving the runners up
I love the Rockies and will still watch them even if they lose because I am a baseball fan. It seems like the team as a whole thinks they have to play long ball to get a win right now. The best hit I saw last night was Giambi going the other way in the 9th to get on base with the shift on.
I don’t see the Rockies making too many moves except for a trading a reliever, because most of the other players don’t have much value as to how they are performing right now or have to large of a contract.
Disagree that Hawpe is the biggest contributor to the current state of the team. Helton’s problems this year with his vision and back and the Rockies lack of a back-up plan at 1B is the biggest contributor to the current state of the team.
Enough of this mediocrity...win the NL West title
VOTE: Hawpe for 1B! ---- Hawpe for 1B!
Seth Smith: Excellent Beard!
bad baserunning for Smith too
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Actually Cook not covering first wasn't the issue
it was Hawpe being completely out of position on the play. I’m not trying to pile on him, cause he hasn’t played a lot of 1B, but an experienced firstbasemen would not have gone after that ball, seeing as it was clearly the 2B’s ball.
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I was confused
by the entire situation. The runner was booking it up the line so it would have been close with how high the ball was chopped
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
He needs more reps at 1b in game to become better.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Ubaldo, Troy, Hawpe, CarGo, and Spilly say "Germans?"
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he's been tons better than I thought
he looks like a 1B out there the vast majority of the time
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I agree and am very happy to see this.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Ubaldo, Troy, Hawpe, CarGo, and Spilly say "Germans?"
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I don't disagree about Hawpe's 1B abilities
they have been better than Mora and Giambi, but on that particular play it was his fault and it showed his inexperience. I would still rather have him then the other 2 guys previously mentioned.
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Jack Handy quote
I want to see some magic.
Even if just for one game. Just for once, I’d like to see everything go right that could go right.
Maybe I’m spoiled. After all, there was Ubaldo’s no-hitter. But I’d like a little hit of unsustainable luck again, even if just for one game.
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
well we have 60 games to go
I guarantee there will be at least one that we play well and win.
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by Muzia on Jul 29, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
No more, no less.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Can I ask for play well, win, and nobody gets hurt?
No line drives off a pitcher, no strained groins making crazy catches, no outfielders running into a wall.
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
Is this really the time to press our luck?
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I probably shouldn't hope for juice boxes too, then, huh.
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no whammys!
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by WalkInRight on Jul 29, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
I usually agree with most everything RG writes but I can't go along with the Rox being safe
The first base position has yielded 5 HRs through July. We’ve just gotta have more power from a corner infielder than that. If Todd can’t comeback (and I have grave doubts that he can), we should just have a jubilant celebration of his career, hang his jersey on the outfield wall and move on to finding a first baseman who can give us the production we need.
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 9:28 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
The corner player power cliche comes from the notion that SS, 2B, and CF are positions more likely to be selected for defensive skillset than offensive skillset.
While the offense production from 1B has indeed been FAR too low, it’s completely possible to have a successful team without a power hitting 1B when someone else, say your SS, can take that role. Not that having an extra power hitter would hurt or anything.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Cargo still may wind up being our RF, even though there's been talk of putting Dex there instead.
I’d rather they be reversed.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree that you can win without a pure power 1B...
Most winning teams win without a power hitting shortstop too. The reason for history you have the stereotype of corner power in both infield and outfield is you usually put the big guys who didn’t have the agility and speed for playing up the middle. Here is my blasphamy question of the day.
Is Tulo a luxury the Rox can’t afford long term? Could we get two power contact bats for RF and 1B by tradeing him and maybe something more?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
the fan fallout would be so hard to recover from
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
And depending on who you get would the Rox be a better team?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Depends on who you get
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
moving Tulo would be the equivalent of a firesale.
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
and we would sell
a lot less tickets for the rest of the year.
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and we would sell a lot less tickets for the rest of the year.decade. Peeps be PISSED
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
But if that was the move that got them a WS they wouldn't stay pissed for long
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
not sure selling off Tulo
would win us a WS. He’s valuable – but we have a ton of holes that need to be filled.
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That seems like pretty long odds to me
The window of contending is now. We just wouldn’t get back two major league players for Tulo. It would likely be a prospects trade (these things almost always are), which doesn’t help for contending now.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
But he is the piece with the most value to fill the Rox other needs
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
He also has a very team friendly contract and is a rarity as a power hitting shortstop
That’s the piece you build around. If you can’t build around him via the draft, trades or free agency, you wouldn’t be competing without him either, really.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
which he can mostly void if traded so his contract to other teams is less valuable than it is to the rockies
which is why he was ranked so low in Fangraphs trade value series
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
it would take a "you literally cannot say no" trade to get me to move him
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Dunn and Stras?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
you mean Zimm and Stras
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AS if!
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
haha i know both of those were definitely unrealistic
i just think that any realistic option, would not be worth giving up Tulo for
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Well this is a hypothetical ? anyway.
I just don’t think we will be able to build a suitable cast to win with him at SS
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Can't do it
He’s on the DL
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
then
we’ll take a low A C type prospect too since he is on the DL and we can’t expect too much from him…
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JFK
Maybe Dunn and Willingham
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Or how about Kila and Dejesus and something more?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I assume you don't mean competing for a WS this season
DeJesus is out the rest of the year.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Hypothetical...
I was thinking in terms of value
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
todd has a contract that goes through 2013
we cant just hang up his jersey and say goodbye
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions
We can if he provides less value on the team than Brad Eldred would
which is sadly a possibility. Of course, Todd would likely retire before that
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions
I said nothing about not paying him. But we can't continue to have no production from first.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions
But we can’t continue to have no production from
firstvarious positions.
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
what I'm saying is that we can continue having no production from first
or right or second base, but we can’t have no production from all three. All the non-Yankees contenders carry one under-productive player in their everyday lineup, the Rockies could to, for me, the underperforming player I’d rather keep given his franchise status is Helton
It isn't as if he's a hack defensively
I suppose he could hit 8th and walk in front of the pitcher
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
This is what confuses me about people who want to trade for a first baseman
It seems much more likely that there’ll be production from an in-house first baseman than it does that there’ll be production from an in-house second baseman. Herrera is already regressing toward his minor league numbers, Barmes should never have started the season as the 2B, and I’m completely unsold on Nelson except to give him a chance in September.
2B is the priority.
What?
Nelson at least has potential. What in house 1B has more than 4 games at the position and has the potential to contribute next year?
In house or not
Whoever we would find to scrape together at 1B would most likely have better numbers than who we have as 2B options. Position scarcity and all. It’s amazing the production this season out of 1-2 year FA 1B.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Why?
At least H&I have done it before
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
There is something to be said
About a player who we are reported to be shopped around, and another that can’t seem to hold his job down for more than a few months. I know, I know, Iannetta has the unfortune of his league average backups suddenly becoming all starts, still…
Still, their bats should project to be better than a rookie
who has had trouble adjusting to every minor league level. I’m not sure how you could say otherwise. Both are above the league average line this seaosn
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
My point is
The club doesn’t seem to be all that interested in Hawpe going forward. They are shopping him now, and don’t plan on picking up his option. Yes, he may still be here, but most trends point to his departure. Iannetta, I have no idea what to expect anymore.
I thought your point was that you were less sold on Hawpe's bat than Nelson's
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
No,
I think my point is I’m less sold on the future contribution to the team of those two players over Nelson. Mostly cause I’m not sold on ANY future contribution from Hawpe, and I don’t know where Iannetta will end up.
What about Hawpe, aside from the inconsistency
indicates he’d give no future contribution if he was retained?
I suppose if you buy into his last 162 games...
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Still had an .813 OPS in the 2nd half last year
which is miles above Barmesy’s streakiness, which plays into the position scarcity argument.
Why is everyone so down on Hawpe?
He’s been injured, but he hasn’t dropped off the face of the earth. Surprisingly, he still hits LHP pretty decently, and could play 1B as more than part of a platoon.
I don't know
I wasn’t much of a fan when we kept him during the offseason, and I guess that continues. He just doesn’t seem to be in the clubs long term plan.
The team is certainly bad at not trading their players when they still have value
It didn’t take a genius to see what was happening with Atkins, and plenty of people here said trade him while his value was still high.
But I don’t think the same applies to Hawpe. That he’s being tried at 1B indicates the team still thinks of him as something long-term.
In fairness, they did fine with Jennings and Holliday in that regard
Atkins was a horrible oversight. It isn’t as if they had a 1st round draft pick at his position knocking on the door or anything
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
What happened to Holliday during the first month in Oakland
wasn’t assured to happen here, and since then he’s maintained his value (although he, like Uggla, will always unfairly suffer from long memories on a few bad defensive plays).
Jennings is a good case, though I believe it was motivated more by money than recognizing a decline. They let Atkins and Hawpe get moderately expensive. I don’t think Hawpe is going the way of Atkins, however.
A New Day
Today, I opened my drawer for my black t-shirt. I picked up a Rockies shirt, put it back down, and grabbed another shirt instead. That about sums it up for me.
I switched hats today
Enough of this mediocrity...win the NL West title
VOTE: Hawpe for 1B! ---- Hawpe for 1B!
Seth Smith: Excellent Beard!
I tried the hat switching
Helped out the softball team (two games won by 10-run rule), but hasn’t worked for the Rockies.
I'm wearing a Converge "Axe to Fall" shirt today
sign of the impending Trade Deadline?
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Took the day off from work
So Im still wearing my evening clothes
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you're wearing a tux?
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Bond...
James Bond
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by WalkInRight on Jul 29, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
a superman cape and red briefs
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Underoos?
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Wearing my Rox boxers anyway
I don’t expect them to help
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by Mondogarage on Jul 29, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Erasure t-shirt
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dont make me break out that video again
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because its fun to put "quotation marks" around things?
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I think you meant "things"
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that would make for an interesting pair of underwear
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yes. yes it would.
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As I get over I find the unnecessary use of quotation marks necessary...
But what I was getting at, is that we shouldn’t have to make you post something that sweet…you should just do it!
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
I could use me some
Erasure this morning.
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I could use me some Erasure on any day
Ubaldo Jimenez: He's still gonna win the CY
Brad Hawpe: Get it together!!!
Todd and Tulo: Ready to Rox and roll
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for all yall (warning dangerous amount of Erasure)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0SoZNdozs
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I have that bastard bookmarked on my work computer
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Smoking jacket and ascot?
Ubaldo Jimenez: He's still gonna win the CY
Brad Hawpe: Get it together!!!
Todd and Tulo: Ready to Rox and roll
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wore that yesterday
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I knew you were a stylish fella
Ubaldo Jimenez: He's still gonna win the CY
Brad Hawpe: Get it together!!!
Todd and Tulo: Ready to Rox and roll
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sooo karaoke?
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yes....I will post a fanshot todat
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today
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YES!
It’s Ubaldo day!
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yes
better than work anyway
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A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
I'm going to bag it and go see Inception. May catch the last part but I need a break from this team for a day.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
Alright. I'm going.
Anyone else gonna be there?
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions
I think coolopatumus is going to be there.
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Yes, I already texted her
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions
srsly
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions
srsly
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This totally destroys my image of Wolf
Being the resident contrarian. Maybe he’s being contrarian about being contrarian. But over texting?
How am I a contrarian?
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions
It may be the wrong word
But I just get that impression from your not liking anything good and holy in this world.
Just because I dislike a lot of popular things does not mean I dislike all popular things.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
It's very difficult to make a caricature out of me
Though the grumpy old man stereotype is the best angle, I guess.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
So you're Mr. Wilson?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Ubaldo, Troy, Hawpe, CarGo, and Spilly say "Germans?"
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I'm a lot less uptight and a lot less predictable and prim
But just as bitter, maybe.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Less badass and traditional.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Usually, bitter people take the "I wish things were they used to be" route
I take the “I wish things weren’t the way they used to be” route.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
A lot less in love with a dead woman.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Since never.
I send like 2 a month
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
but now you're texting
FLOOD GATES OPENNNN
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
I've seen sending 2 textx a month for four years
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 29, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
until NOW
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on average
I only talk 10 minutes on my phone each month.
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oh duh
I was looking at Maria’s comment
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
I was too
because he replied to that instead of Wolf’s
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A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
yes
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
JFK
I...I think so.
Score a goal. Unit. Basket. Go squadron! Do good! Defeat the opponents soundly in this...skirmish.
YES!
I was gonna go on those $14 homestand tix, until I threw up in my mouth at the $5 in Ticketbastard charges.
I am not paying 35% on top of the ticket price, to Ticketbastard. I’m just not.
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by Mondogarage on Jul 29, 2010 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions
yes, i will be too
Yes, I actually do like cricket. I'm Indian.
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 29, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Not that we've pushed for it too hard yet today
but here’s an OT thread
I have this feeling we may need one
what?
You think people around here go OT? I’ve never seen this in my life.
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Two cents' worth
after almost 2 weeks of vacation & being away from the Row & internet,
just following the box scores, which gives a different perspective
This team just doesn’t score enough runs to overcome its extremely
inconsistent starting pitching. With Ubaldo’s downturn, there’s no
telling what kind of pitching the team will get on any night. Cook,
Francis & JDLR have all been decent one game, horrible the next.
The reality is that Ubaldo & JDLR carried the team the first half
(JDLR going 3-1 before hitting the DL), and with them not doing that,
it’s up to the offense to compensate. It hasn’t.
I totally agree w/ Rox Girl that the nostagia about the veterans
is no reason to keep them around. The window until Cargo
& Ubaldo hit free agency will pass quicker than we all think.
None of that time should be wasted with keeping good ol’ Barmie,
poor ol’ Todd and slow/inconsistent Brad around. We need
to find a power-hitting 1B not named Eldred, Hawpe or Giambi.
If that means spending money or tradlng talent, so be it.
But just look at the top teams — all have good power & run
production at 1B. The Rockies have almost none.
Time to make changes.
Mediocrity sucks
Totally agree.
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions
The thing about moving Hawpe ( aside from my utter depression if he gets traded)
is that he’s just NOW getting starts and starting to hit. I think we hold off on moving him until he’s had more time at 1b to see what happens.
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I think we trade him now since he's beginning to hit. Maybe we can hoodwink someone into overpaying for him.
/thinks about it and decides nope, that’s probably not going to happen.
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions
He at least has been a defenseive upgrade to Giambi....
Aside from utterfail on the first Baltimore chop he’s seen in a decade
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Hawpe-along hasn't really been inconsistent except for this year
and he’s been struggling through injuries. From ‘06 to ’09, he was in a pretty elite category of hitters, never ranking lower than 18th in NL wOBA. That’s good company.
He just never should have stayed in RF so long.
As far as Giambi, he doesn’t need to come back next year, but the team would be in a lot worse shape if not for his bat taking the bulk of at bats at first.
Depends on your sample size
Hawpe has always been quite streaky, and he would have seasons like last year where he was All-World the first half and terrible the second. But yeah, at the end of the season, his stats were fairly consistent
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what you mean by "depends on your sample size"
when it’s a given that streaks will occur over the course of the season. I understand that he goes through slumps that seem a bit more pronounced than other hitters in that group of wOBA, but (not saying that you said this) I think his end of the season line trumps the perception of periodic slumps.
That's essentially what I'm saying
Increased streakiness=increased inconsistency, even if the end of the season line is ok.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
How do you minimize streakiness?
Without guessing. I mean, you can know when a guy is fatigued or overmatched by a certain pitcher, but other than that…
I'm not sure you can
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
His peaks and valleys during the season are quite a bit more dramatic than you would want
He is, to put it, inconsistently consistent.
There you go
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd really like someone to demonstrate the peaks and valleys rather than assume that they are real and deep.
I understand what you’re talking about, because I share the same perception of him as a streaky hitter. But, given the end of season line for 4 years in a row, all that means to me is that he could be an everyday 1B but not a cleanup hitter.
Given the vehemence with which I've argued that the team
not continue to hope that Barmes, Herrera, etc get hot at the appropriate time in order to fill 2B, I wouldn’t change gears for 1B. Although, I do believe a Hawpe/Iannetta platoon could work.
Depressing stat of the day
(as if we needed another one).
The Rockies have not won a game in which they allowed a run since July 10th.
Bazinga!
by Junction Rox on Jul 29, 2010 10:34 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
O.o
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Good thing it's only July 12 right?
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Milledge, Tabata and Kratz are on the bench today
WE HAVE A CHANCE
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:36 AM MDT reply actions
No. They have Cutch.
We bees doomed.
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So McCatchon is playing all 3 OF spots??
This is not good for us.
Bazinga!
by Junction Rox on Jul 29, 2010 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
enjoy
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by pedalpusher on Jul 29, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
New lineup - Barmes in the 2-hole, Stewart hitting 8th instead.
Fowler8, Barmes4, CarGo7, Tulo6, Mora3, Spilly9, Olivo2, Stewart5, Jimenez1
Olivo starts all three this series despite his slump because Tracy wants Olivo to catch Jimenez. I’m sure Iannetta is still tired too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:45 AM MDT reply actions
wait are you joking or is this really today's lineup?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Ubaldo, Troy, Hawpe, CarGo, and Spilly say "Germans?"
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No joke
Maybe O’Dowd can pawn off Barmes as a “2-hole hitter”
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Why do we insult Ubaldo with that king of B lineup
Tracy needs to bury whatever hatchet is between him and Iannetta and give him a freaking chance to get a few consistent at-bats…
I assume Mora is in LF… Is Smith in a coma or something? Tracy’s lineups are getting completely ridiculous.
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by BittenAnkles on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Mora is at first base. That's what the 3 means.
Maholm is a lefty pitcher and Smith struggles mightily against lefties
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah I just realized that!
Thanks
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by BittenAnkles on Jul 29, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Get away da--
oh, right.
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not like anything else has worked lately
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The last time Tracy's lineup was universally criticized
We won 10-0. Worth a shot
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
blind squirrel, nut... Broken clock, ...two time a day
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by BittenAnkles on Jul 29, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I said it than
so I should say it again. This is one of those random, poorly conceived lineups that will somehow manage to put up 12 runs.
this is a scary lineup
if your a fan, but the last time we said that we won 10-0 so it might be worth it. This aught to be interesting
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Uhhh, I think I'm gonna hurl
Tracy used the sorting hat again today I see…
Tornadough! Tornadough! Tornadough!
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by WalkInRight on Jul 29, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
aside from the order and mora
these are all our usual starters. this lineup is nothing like that marlins game. i dont see the huge fuss over it
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Barmes is 9-15 off Maholm in his career
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Worked for Mora against Robertson
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
sounds good to me
I hope he can keep this up. A couple times we played the Bucs was in June last year though so that might have something to do with it…
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what month of the year were those matchups
it makes a difference in this case
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STREET IS GOOD TO PITCH TODAY
Per Tracy
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:07 AM MDT reply actions
Nice.
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Hopefully the Rockies will be in a position to need him.
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by glaucophane on Jul 29, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oswalt appears ready to waive no trade clause and accept trade to Phillies
Houston provides $11mil to help with contract, Oswalt’s 2012 option will NOT be excercised, but he will be “compensated in some other way” for waiving the NTC
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:12 AM MDT reply actions
$2 million dollars?
as in his buyout? how else could they compensate him?
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
I think Bobby Abreu was paid a sum of money to waive his NTC
Could be the same here
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Looks like Philly is going to trade a speedy CF prospect to replace the one they traded to Houston for Lidge.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Gotta admit
Phillies sure are buying for a couple runs here.
And how do they suddenly have the capability to have such a high payroll?
Good question
They already upped their payroll $25mil from last year before this move.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
because the tower is going to collapse upon itself in 2 years or less
they HAVE to win now to justify it
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metaphor for financial footing
they are banking on a rapidly aging, though currently talented core. Dumping everything of value in their farm system for big name trades and re-signing players to long extensions.
In two years, they will be the 2004 Yankees.
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I thought there was an actual tower :(
Like a Lord of the Rings tower somewhere in Philadelphia that is going to fall in a couple years and somehow you know it :(
sorry to burst your bubble
now I’m kinda sad there’s no tower :(
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Towers already fell in San Diego last year
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
In our minds, it exists
And we shall rejoice when this tower in our heads collapses over the Phillies organization.
And then, they will be the sucky Phillies of the late ’90’s where they had to get rid of any good players they had, ie Schilling and Rolen.
can I add
Abreu to that list too?
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You know whats funny about Abreu
Houston let him go, he gets drafted by the Rays in the expansion draft, and traded to Philly for KEVIN STOCKER.
And then basically traded to the Yankees for scrubs.
Funny how for most of his tenure in Philly, he was never talked about. Then he makes the All Star team, wins the home run derby, and suddenly now he is an elite/premier player.
I was thinking Jenga
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They could always just trade Ryan Howard for Pujols
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
straight up yo
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what else is phily sending houston? JA Hap is Worth Roy Oswalt + $10 mil?
their farm is pretty barren from what i understand
by purplesocks on Jul 29, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Happ + RHP Vance Worley (9-4, 3.20 in AA before promotion) and OF Anthony Gose (.263, 36 SB in A)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Gose was Phillies' 6th ranked prospect acc to BA before the season
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
that's a bit disingenuous
6th best in the Phillies org could be the 74th best in the PIrates’ org
by Andrew Martin on Jul 29, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Just stating the fact, not defending Houston here
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
but only after they traded everyone else in the system
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So
Thats one three star prospect, one overrated starter, with injury and command issues, and one other random prospect I know nothing about.
Forgot to add
Plus a very large chunk of the contract eaten. Looks like Houston waited way to long to trade him. They could have got more value a few weeks ago.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
sooo Willy Tavares with a much higher ceiling
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Thats what I was thinking as I read it
Got the speed, and good defense. Wont have any power, and may never hit. That sounds like Willy.
Or EY2
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without the defensive acumen
sounds like a multi year project.
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No, definitly not EY2
At the very least, Gose can be a defensive centerfielder. EY2, at worst, is a minor leaguer.
No, definitly not EY2
At the very least, Gose can be a defensive centerfielder. EY2, at worst, is a minor leaguer.
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Seriously, how does our pitching staff have 3.0 more WAR than any NL team?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:20 AM MDT reply actions
bad defense?
I honestly don’t know
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it does for one side typically...
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10th/16 in ERA, 5th in FIP, 4th in xFIP
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Truth
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh I know why, it just seems high
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Is it still too soon to think about 2011?
Resign DeLa Rosa, probably cost us what, $10-$12 mil a year?
And I’d say look at getting an OF bat along with a 1B.
Looking at potential free agents, David DeJesus might be a viable option and cheaper due to his injury. Looking for a contact guy, not sure of all his measures, but I think he could help out.
For 1B of course my dream scenario would be able to land Dunn at an effective pay, although hello to your #1 strikeout team in 2011 with him lol. Kidding aside, there are some options available, but very risky in my opinion. Lance Berkman for one could be interesting to look at
Of course, I don’t think we could sign anybody really unless we get Cook off the books.
I'm still here
Just can’t say anything nice right now. I miss looking forward to Ubaldo day.
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looks like Baylor will have to wait for another job
Orioles hired Buck Showalter to be their next manager
Toronto's job will be open next year
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Possibly the Mets this week
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Maybe we can help Baylor out
by making him unemployed now.
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Trade baylor for Hojo and a coach to be named later?
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I read this as trade Baylor for a HoHo
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by WalkInRight on Jul 29, 2010 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions
he's had a few
jobs in his career. Good luck Buck
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i have a question for Rox Girl
What this means is that O’Dowd is absolutely correct in shopping Hawpe ahead of this weekend’s trade deadline, and he should probably take the best available offer so long as it’s a more likely MLB contribution than a typical supplemental round draft pick.
isnt Hawpe projected to be type A. offering him Arb would be extremely risky as I think he might accept it. if the rockies decline his option would they still offer him arb?
The Marlins have informed the Rangers they are willing to pay most, if not all, of the remainder of Jorge Cantu’s contract.
Florida REALLY wants to get rid of Cantu
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 11:45 AM MDT reply actions
It's a bit confusing
Florida is doing everything but loading the moving van for him (actually, they’re probably doing that too). And he’s saying he might sign back there this winter if he gets traded. Which means they either know they’ll get him back and are willing to kick in some money to get a prospect for renting him, or he’s delusional about coming back.
Bazinga!
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Renck tweets that Cutch is out of the lineup today
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thank you
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THANK GOD!!! This is the beginning of our turnaround!
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they just made that change?
i got an ESPN text saying he was in the lineup about an hour ago
Per my fantasy page:
New player notes Thu, Jul 29
McCutchen (shoulder) is in the starting lineup for Thursday’s game against the Rockies, the Pirates’ official Twitter page reports.
that's what I get for trusting Renck over the Cowboy?
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According to a Pirates writer...
Dejan_Kovacevic
#Pirates scratch CF Andrew McCutchen (sore shoulder) and put Jose Tabata atop the order.
seconded by Renck
NO CUTCH WE WIN
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Why is Mora at 1B?
Seriously? Hawpe has been hitting more and has been doing well defensively….
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Lefty on the mound?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I guess......
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Unless they are going to be traded tomorrow
3 HR day = gimme better prospect
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
what? since when?
Didn’t the Giants trade for a guy that was playing for the opposite team. He merely went to the other clubhouse during the game……
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His comment implies Hawpe is being traded right now
and wouldn’t be available to play
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I understood...
And my comment still stands. He could be traded to the Pirates for McCutcheon….lol
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Nope
Scratched with the injury from last night
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions
So when do we callup Miller, Garner and Nelson for better looks?
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September?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
If We sell...
Why not sooner?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Depending on the moves
Garner and Miller would have to be added to the 40man, so something would have to happen soon. Nelson is possible. I’d be interested
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Wolf texted me
Said that DLR is doing a bullpen session now and Apodaca is having him try pitching without the pause in his windup
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:00 PM MDT reply actions
interesting
I always thought that “pause” what what made DLR a hard pitcher to face…..other than the actual pitches
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It's also something that allows mechanics to get out of what more easily
double edged sword, really
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by Mondogarage on Jul 29, 2010 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
But he is successful with it and his mechanics don't seem off...
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I didn't realize anything was broken
what would this accomplish?
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by BittenAnkles on Jul 29, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
This was my reaction
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Faster to the plate?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Wolf TEXTED you?
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srsly
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Didn't we do this last night???
Or am I getting major Deja Vu
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by BittenAnkles on Jul 29, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
He even sent me a picture message.
/swoons
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 29, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting Statistics
Player SO/BB BB SO
Dex 1.54/ 39/ 60
Helton 1.56/ 34/ 53
Smith 1.62/ 21/ 34
Tulo 1.64/ 25/ 41
Barmes 2.00/ 26/ 52
Hawpe 2.18/ 28/ 61
Average 2.20/
Stewart 2.30/ 37/ 85
Spilly 2.35/ 23/ 54
Olivo 3.45/ 22/ 76
Carlos 5.11/ 18/ 92
stats taken from B-R
With the inevitable formating failure I find it interesting that a lot of times we complain about the strikeout and we often cite OBP as a good thing. For example Barmes has a low OBP, but this is primarily driven by a low BA because he is 6th on the team in walks and his SO/BB is 5th of the people who qualify. Gonzalez has the worst SO/BB ratio and the fewest walks of the starters on the team.
I will let anyone who wants to run with this but I found this specific set of statistics interesting.
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If CarGo actually worked counts and took walks
He’d be in the super elite category. I hope he gets to that, because we are talking about a guy capable of hitting .320, OBP of near .450 and OPS of consistently over .950 while capable of stealing 20+ bases.
OBP of .450 is stretching it a ton no way he ever makes it that high
id be very happy with a OBP of 375 from Cargo with a .525+ slugging to go along with it and elite defense
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