2010 Rockies draft signing deadline update: Kyle Parker wants deal done
by Rox Girl on Aug 16, 2010 10:51 AM MDT
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PrintTonight at midnight is the deadline for major league teams to sign their 2010 draftees, the Rockies are awaiting word on first round selection Kyle Parker, as well as supplemental round pick Peter Tago. Here are the latest updates:
A Clemson beat writer tweets that Parker's on his way home to Augusta from football practice to negotiate with the Rockies, and that Parker says it's a "no-win" situation if he doesn't sign with the Rockies. While there's still ground in the negotiations to be made up, there's still a very very good chance the Rockies get this done tonight. Earlier, the Independent Mail's Greg Wallace gave this update with quotes from Parker.
Update: In another tweet by Travis Sawchik, Parker's father, Carl Parker, indicates that the two sides are still far apart and that he expects negotiations to go to the "12th hour"
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It's a similar situation with Tago. Entering the weekend, Yahoo Sports' Kendall Rogers gave it a 70/30 chance that Tago signed with the Rockies rather than going to Cal State Fullerton, but those numbers actually seem low compared to what other people are saying, this one's still very likely going to fall in the Rockies favor.
UPDATE: Peter Tago signed for $982,500
Besides those two, the next major question mark would be with Hommy Rosado, a slugger who's committed to LSU-Eunice, and that's where things start to get considerably more doubtful, but there are a couple of indications that a deal might still get done with him. I haven't heard any word on other, later unsigned picks, and therefore wouldn't count on any of them signing before the deadline.
I'll update this post as more news comes out.
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i hope both parker and tago sign
Are these gonna go right down to the wire like matzek’s last year?
"Don't give up, don't ever give up" - Jim Valvano
by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 11:12 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
We don't have a lot of experience in this
I’d say no, the Matzek situation was unique, but it’s hard to say. Hypothetically, deal could get done at 6:00pm and not announced until after midnight.
As far as signings go, not signing Tago is a disaster, not signing Parker something less than that, but anything else is bonus. Rosado would be nice, but he won’t make or break this draft. Success will be had on signing day in the first rounders
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 11:16 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
To expound on my hypothetical
It only relates to Tago and Rosado. When Parker agrees, we will know.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 11:18 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i feel the same way about not signing tago
Especially since I thought he would sign right away and be pitching in the system already. I really liked what I saw from the video of him.
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 11:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a disaster though
In that there’s no compensation if he doesn’t sign, as there would be with Parker.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 11:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i forgot about not getting compensation
Now I’m really hoping they get the deal done.
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 11:29 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
we would get compensation
“If a team does not sign its pick in the first two rounds (including the supplemental round), it receives a compensatory pick in the next year’s Rule 4 Draft, which comes one selection after the slot of the player who did not sign. "
by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
we would get compensation
“If a team does not sign its pick in the first two rounds (including the supplemental round), it receives a compensatory pick in the next year’s Rule 4 Draft, which comes one selection after the slot of the player who did not sign. "
by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
thanks for the doing the legwork on that correction.
I didn’t think that was right, but wanted to look at the rule officially to make sure.
That is correct
as long as the pick was not compensation for a another pick you failed to sign, than it is protected.
I totally dreamed about the signing deadline last night.
I don’t remember many details, but that’s weird. One thing I do remember is that there were these books about the Rockies drafts, one for each year, and they were huge. Like as big as dictionaries.
These is a part of me
That does not want to sign Parker, and would rather have the compensation next year. I have visions of a torn ACL, or a major concussion, or a separated shoulder.
you mean from football?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 12:32 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
I understand the whole sorta split-contract thing (getting less money and keep playing football), but it still puts all the future risk of non-performance on the team. Less concerned with saving $2m now than having a 1st round draft pick never even make it to AA because he’s got spaghetti for knee ligaments
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by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions
those would not be good things
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 12:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
Doesn’t sound like he is fully committed to baseball we like football players that are committed to baseball.
I am sure they will have some sort of injury clause/insurance but still I agree. The dude should decide.
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by waterboy31321 on Aug 16, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Sawchik just gave another update:
Carl Parker tells P & C he expects KP/Rockies talks to go down to “12th hour” … indicates the two sides are far apart
Carl Parker is Kyle’s dad, and throughout the process has probably been the biggest impediment for the Rockies. I don’t blame him, he wants what’s best for his kid, but he might have pie in the sky hopes here.
Carl, plz to meet Matt Harrington's dad
He can tell you where to get your tires rotated, if need be.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly...
If they don’t sign, it could be close to $1 million they’d be walking away from, even if he has a good baseball year next season. It could be $2 million or more if he falters or gets injured playing football or some other disaster. The older Parker is doing the negotiation song and dance, but I really suspect that he understands that it has to end tonight.
It sounds a bit more encouraging in this full article
from which the tantalizing quote was taken from. Still, it looks like they’re going to hold out until the very last minute on this.
Odd
That article implies that leaving football is still in play, despite what has been reported. However, 3 million is still a ton of money just for this one pick.
no way he gets 3 million
especially with him playing football next season.
The rockies paid 3.9 million for Matzek, who was way way higher rated than Parker and a LHP to boot.
by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions
No, that would be the price to buy out his football commitment
However, It still isn’t worth it, even if he gives up football.
The Wallace article linked in the main post also says that's a real possibility.
It’s definitely going to be interesting not only seeing if he signs, but what he signs with regards to the football team.
I'm not exactly sure what they are holding out for.
Now that he has decided to play football this season, I doubt he gets much more than the slot. If he demands too much, the Rockies should just move on and get another pick in next years supposedly deep draft.
by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd argue that with the football risk, he gets a small bit less than slot
And if he doesn’t like it, yeah, we move on. Next year’s draft is deeper, anyway.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions
yup
this is one situation where i like the fact that the rockies are probably going to be cheap about signing, because it’s the smart thing to do.
by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions
This isn't entirely a winning argument,
Next year’s draft is deeper, sure, but the Rockies have that insurance with this pick, they wouldn’t next year and would be less likely to take a serious signing risk on a player with lots of upside. In a way it’s the direct reverse of the leverage they have over Parker.
Yes,
but a safer pick next year will be just as good as Parker was. Hell, there were safer picks available who were higher rated when Parker was drafted.
Okay, this is conflating a second issue,
which is your opinion (granted that’s shared by some sharp sources) that Parker wasn’t a worthy pick in the first place. The Rockies themselves clearly had Parker rated higher than these other safer picks you mention, so from their perspective, it’s almost certain that whoever gets taken next year in that slot is a downgrade. If the Rockies scouts are right and Parker’s worthy here, that means trouble if we don’t sign him. If they’re wrong, then it means we need to get different talent evaluators, but I still think the play would be to follow through on their convictions here.
I posted below that the Red Sox liked Parker at 36 (per Carl Parker, so who knows how accurate).
It’s not out of the realm of possibility that he was a first rounder. He was a great hitter two out of the three years and he has that leadership quality the Rockies seem to love thanks to his QB experience.
He’s a college bat, which means he’ll move quickly through the system and the team will know what it has in the next year or so.
Well, it is always a crap shoot
Obviously. It is just my opinion that it wasn’t a great pick. I hope they sign him and he turns into a hall of famer. I will gladly eat my words if that happens.
i feel foolish for not having thought of this
In addition to the hypothetical compensatory pick being forced to be a safe sign due to compensation rules, but it would increase the number of picks in the draft, likely without a larger budget
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 12:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
That's not really an issue, if this year's budget is added to next year's budget
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by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions
is that a guarantee?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 12:55 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Nothing is ever a guarantee, however.....
Given the trend of upping payroll 10% per year at the ML level, and the attendance this year of a couple thousand per game above expectation, there’s zero reason right now to believe the club’s going to tighten their belts next year versus this year.
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they might not necessarily tighten their belts in total budget
But if we have a lot of comp picks next year, it would require a notable hike.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 1:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
This is true, but I'm saying the club is taking in quite a bit more $$$ than anticipated
So there should be some room do to so.
Also, if we have a total of 4 1st round and comp picks, no reason that it’s categorically bad to just take three of the very seriously, in terms of big guns that we’ll be very intent on signing. That would still be a haul.
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Even larger ripple effect when you add
Potential comp picks from arb players like De La Rosa. You run the risk of having too many comp. picks for the Rockies to be comfortable with budget-wise.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 1:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure about that
Right now JDLR is a type B player, but if he plays well down the stretch, he’ll easily jump into Type A.
MLBTradeRumors.com has a pretty good system of figuring out who is who.
Plus, Hawpe might be offered arbitration if his option is declined, tossing him as a possible comp guy.
The type rating isn't what is unpredictable
it is the offer of arbitration that is. In a year where teams may not be motivated to spend much, there is more risk in offering arbitration.
I don't think there's as much risk with JDLR
as there would be with someone like Russell Martin, who’s clearly already priced beyond his comparable market value. Pitchers have been pretty close to market rate in arb cases lately, and sometimes below. I think the Rockies would be satisfied with this on a one year deal with a starter of his caliber, and would only look for a discount in a multi-year contract.
Ok, if he were to be re-signed
Than we still wont be getting any compensation picks. Point is, don’t count on compensation picks for free agents.
True, I agree with you there, at least to some extent
I think you’ve got to approach compensation picks as you would other risks, where it’s kind of foolish to go to either extreme of either totally discounting them or completely counting on them. That is to say, I definitely want the Rockies scouts scouring North America sans Mexico as though they’re going to get each of those possible comp picks, and I want the front office to be aware and prepared for the kind of budget that would take, but as far as how it effects what you do with current draftees, I’m in complete agreement with you.
Last I checked, DLR lost Type B status
If he regained it, I missed it
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions
It looks like he did indeed return to the fold there.
Never mind.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Ah, I know what I was thinking
He lost Type A status, not Type B. It was Joe Beimel who lost B
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Sure, but the scenario still exsists
That should the Rockies sign no one tonight, AND get a comp. b pick for DLR, you are talking four first round picks, two of theuseit or lose it variety. That’s going to stretch anyone’s draft budget.
It is justa s possible that they sign everyone tonight
and get no comp picks next year. Point is, don’t base your negotiations on next years draft, which has an unknown amount of picks, and an unknown budget.
I'm not, nor are the Rockies
I’m just saying that this notion of getting comp. picks next year isn’t as rosy as you or others make it out to be.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 1:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
With next year
possibly being the last year without slotted bonuses, can you see some teams upping their budget one final time to sign a handful more high-upside HS kids?
Hard to say
I think teams that have been doing it will keep doing it and vice versa. I think that has more to do with team’s philosophies and the value they place on the draft more than anything else.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 1:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i feel foolish for not having thought of this
In addition to the hypothetical compensatory pick being forced to be a safe sign due to compensation rules, but it would increase the number of picks in the draft, likely without a larger budget
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 12:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i feel foolish for not having thought of this
In addition to the hypothetical compensatory pick being forced to be a safe sign due to compensation rules, but it would increase the number of picks in the draft, likely without a larger budget
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 12:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
That's not really an issue, if this year's budget is added to next year's budget
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by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions
holy mother
Apparently a “faiiled to post” error is false
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 12:53 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
They might
Take some of the money they had earmarked for Parker and throw it to Eades, Rizzotti or Gonzalez.
that is certainly possible
Of course, they would have to give up on contract talks early in the day with Parker in order to reallocate those resources in time to throw money at them
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 1:03 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Perhaps
Or they could have called Eades/Rizzotti/Gonzalez and found out exactly what was needed to get their name on a contract and told them to be ready.
i’m sure they could sign all three with one phone call if the Monforts suddenly found oil in Eaton, Colo and turned into megabillionaires overnight.
i hope one day
They find oil in east central north dakota so I could be a megabillionaire the lottery isn’t working out for me.
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 1:13 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
if they found oil in Eaton, Colorado i would demand a share
From spending the best worst four years of my life there in high school. Reconnect through Monfort’s kids or something.
As for your first point, that could work, but that’s assuming you would be getting straight and accurate answers from your secondary targets, which is always dicey in negotiations.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 1:33 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, come on
They have Eaton Pizza there. That place is delicious!
It always struck me as odd that the Monforts lived there. I had to head into Eaton many times to cover games and never understood the appeal.
the intrigue
Is land for the mansion, for the cattle, and proximity to a hot spot of cheap workers.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 1:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
If he does keep football,
and signs, it will probably end up being a structured bonus system, maybe 400k guaranteed, on the spot, and another 1.5 next year if he starts baseball full time.
I don't care about Parker
But I really really want Tago
Clint Barmes is not a good hitter.
Free Chris Nelson.... again.
Found this interesting
Per Sawchik’s Twitter:
Carl Parker said the Red Sox were ready to select and pay Parker with the 36th overall pick
I didn’t think it was a huge reach by Colorado, and this is further evidence of that.
Also, from Sawchik’s Twitter page, it appears he just doesn’t have a lot of experience dealing with this. He’s being played by the Parker family (don’t blame them). I’d suggest they’re not nearly as far off as he’s being told.
Yes, this has been a very one sided source...
which is good to keep in mind. So far he’s been about our only source, however, so I’m glad for the updates even if they are all from Parker’s side.
I also highly doubt the "no football" part of the article
It reads more like Carl Parker’s trying to puff outs much smoke as possible around these negotiations. I’d be surprised if we’re still talking over 2 mil in bonus.
I also highly doubt the "no football" part of the article
It reads more like Carl Parker’s trying to puff outs much smoke as possible around these negotiations. I’d be surprised if we’re still talking over 2 mil in bonus.
Best news on Tago is a lack of news:
For instance, notice his conspicuous absence in this Aaron Fitt tweet:
Expect Fullerton to land OF Michael Lorenzen (Rays, 7th round). White Sox eighth-rounder Josef Terry is more up in the air.
College football live on espn just talked about parker
Nothing new, but they expect Parker to sign, and they believe history supports that Parker will sign. They also said not to rule out influence from his coach since Clemson has lost a lot of major offensive pieces.
by MattBerger on Aug 16, 2010 1:49 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
His football coach has really been one of the biggest clues that this stance by his dad is just posturing.
The program seems to be ready to replace him in 2011.
assuming he would project well in the NFL draft
Which is not a guarantee. He could return for a senior season
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 2:01 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Dang it, Dodgers nabbed Joc Pederson from his USC commitment
I really hope SC’s new baseball coach turns things around, but the NCAA sanctions might delay that process a bit.
By a big day, you mean Pederson and possible Zach Lee.
While overall, their draft expenditures might be the second lowest in the division (to the D-backs, who’ve for all intents and purposes lost their first pick) even if they sign Lee. If they don’t it’s an absolute disaster. So if that’s what you mean, than yeah, the Dodgers have to have a big day today.
Not to worry
they’ll trade him for a Christian Guzman rental in a couple years….
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
it means they're exploring the market
And given the rumblings we’ve heard from PHLP and others, I’m guessing it’s a bit more serious than a typical just toss everybody out there move.
One thing to keep in mind
It’s Rosenthal. Which makes it about 30% likely to even be true, and about half as much likely to actually result in anything.
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You're sure your handle isn't FOXsports?
Rosenthal is way wrong much of the time.
That doesn’t mean Hawpe has not been put on waivers.
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It’s just really cliche to claim that “National Sportswriter Bob is wrong half the time” without really looking into it.
No need to get into an argument. You have your opinions and I’m not going to change them.
To be fair, Rosenthal is the only "National Sportswriter Bob" that gets that degree of flak around here.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
This
Rosenthal is a joke. I’d pay a lot more attention if something like this came from someone like Stark.
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I don't like Stark much either.
Of course, I follow them both on Twitter, lol.
And they’re a lot more likely to break a transaction than I am. Or anyone here is, really. So they get credit for that.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
If you throw enough pies at a wall, one or two are gonna stick
I don’t give someone credit for being right once in a blue moon when they’re throwing out cow turns every other day of the fortnight.
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I don't have quite that much against Rosenthal.
I’m perfectly comfortable taking what he says with a grain of salt in exchange for some amount of legitimate information.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
You're looking for a resulting outcome... namely a trade...
Rosenthal’s reporting, as he always does, on something that’s already happened, namely a team putting a player on waivers to look for the possibility of a trade. I think you read this as “Rockies about to trade Hawpe” when that’s clearly not what’s being said and that’s why you think he’s wrong. Team X talks to Team Y about Player A does not mean that a trade gets done.
I recall Mondo felt the same way about some of the people when they spoke about Uggla talks.
Specifically Ringolsby’s report that they had never talked about him (which I’m still disinclined to believe). It’s difficult to tell in some cases what exactly is being said, what with inconsistent sourcework and differing definitions. What I take from this is still that the Rockies made a perfectly normal August move that we all should have expected the Rockies to make. Not necessarily a stab at Rosenthal, but I can recognize why the reek of sensationalism could be detected, simply because I fail to see how putting Hawpe on waivers is all that newsworthy.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Yup, those Freddie Sanchez talks that were the #1 topic for about a week...
The ones that actually consisted of the Pirates calling and asking “can we interest you in Sanchez”, DOD saying “hell to the no”, and then the usual suspects claiming “ZOMG trade talks between Rox and Pirates for Freddie Sanchez”.
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My bad
I didn’t know you called O’Dowd or anyone in the organization and got the truth.
I stand corrected.
CST isn't a troll at all.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay, I'll just mark up the personal snark as "not trolling"
and post accordingly.
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No more snarky than half the posters here :p
Don’t read too much into it. CST has provided some very useful minor league information for us. I doubt very much they are trying to start a flame war.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
No, I doubt he's trying to start a flame war, either
But tell us the odds that Rosenthal actually gets a front office scoop that Renck doesn’t already have?
That’s mostly my point….you’re extremely unlikely to actually find out Rockies news from Rosenthal, not when we have actual evidence of hard working street pounding by Rockies beat writers, who have already shown themselves to be very plugged in to the front office.
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Yes, he could have
He could also have written 719 tweets saying “player A” on waivers, “player B on waivers”, etc.
And in most of those cases, the response would be “duh”.
As it is here.
I mean, is anyone here really the least bit surprised at all that Hawpe has been put on waivers?
No?
Then what merits the tweet as breaking news? Nothing.
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He doesn't actually label it "Breaking news."
Unless you assume that he should only be tweeting actual breaking news, which I don’t think is a fair assumption.
I think it's a pretty fair assumption...
…when those folks’ employers market the twitter feeds of their writers as a place to get the latest information
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But you're limiting him by saying he can't
post stuff that some fans might find useful, even if it’s not exactly breaking news.
I don't think he's limiting him...
.. just (fairly but not necessarily truthfully) saying that when it comes from Rosenthal, who has a bit of a reputation as a Rumormonger (not just here either), it may be implying a certain level of importance stronger than it actually is. I wouldn’t argue that someone’s reputation should automatically rule out the validity of a statement (that’s a logical fallacy), but I don’t think this is a case of limitation, rather suspicion.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
My intent isn't to limit him, really
Rather, if all a reporter has to post is something that really isn’t “news” by any stretch of the imagination, than it really just appears as if he’s tweeting just for the sake staying in other folks’ twitter feeds, which is pretty tacky and narcissistic.
It’s almost as if he realized people were clicking on links to other writers over at MLBTR, so dammit, he had to tweet something just so that he can be picked up in the next MLBTR rumor collection, lest he suddenly lose invites to be a talking head.
That’s the inherent problem with the 24 hour cable news “news cycle”, because you somehow have to keep your byline and name out there, it doesn’t matter that what you write is pretty much meaningless, untrue, or less than newsworthy, as long as your putting out something as “news”.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I just don't see the problem with tweeting something that is indeed new information.
Just because it’s completely expected, doesn’t mean it can’t be helpful to someone (as clearly it is to some people here). It’s informative in that we now know it’s actually happened.
Now, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t also have other motives. But I don’t really care about that in the context of this particular information.
In fact, from his background
CST is more liable to being “in the know” on such processes than any of us here.
My stance is that there’s way more truth than fiction out there, but guys like Rosenthal are unfairly discredited for the lack of “closure” on a lead. There’s a role and an audience for guys like Rosenthal.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 2:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
There's also a role and an audience for guys like Glenn Beck
That there’s a role and an audience doesn’t grant issue of any actual credibility to their words.
I’ll take the word of someone actually plugged in to the FO and the ballclub (say, Renck). Because when it comes to this club, he’s often a hell of a lot more than Rosenthal.
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It's not, but Rosenthal tweeting the obvious, in an attempt to be able to claim a scoop later...
….typical Rosenthal.
He knows he only has to actually be right 10-15% of the time.
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well that still more right than a weatherman
:)
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 2:31 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Context...
Really. I have to explain this to a film student that certain events which are not important in one situation can become crucial in another? Where did you go to school at? :-P
No if this wasn’t a bigger than usual waiver placement than it wouldn’t be a big deal to Rosenthal either, but because we know, and apparently he knows, that the Rockies have been shopping Hawpe, just like he knew the Nationals had been shopping Dunn, it becomes a bigger part o the story.
Everyone and their third cousins knew the Nats were shopping Dunn
And, it’s about as far away as possible from rocket science to conclude the Rockies would be shopping a player that’s still owed millions and is getting almost no playing time.
So to tweet it as if it’s some sort of breaking news, is just silly.
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The news is the actual placement on waivers of a player the Rockies are trying to trade.
Where did Renck report that? Did I miss something? Show me?
As I recall, the only reason Dunn being put on waivers was news for us was that we may have claimed him.
His actual placement on waivers was a given. Though I could have missed something as well. And please, if there IS something about the waiver process I’m missing, please let me know before I make too big a fool of myself. :p
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes, this
It’s been widely known for months that the Nationals were going to try to extend him, but if not, then try to trade him if the offers were substantial enough.
So Dunn actually being on waivers was not news in the least.
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I'm saying it doesn't qualify as news.
News would be tweeting that he was traded.
Tweeting that Hawpe is on waivers is like tweeting the sun came up in the east today.
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Silly, I don't forget the relevance of context.
I just don’t see any major difference on the context there. it seems to me that “the Rockies are looking to trade Hawpe” information we’ve gotten from elsewhere is more than enough to provide context for August Hawpe stories. Saying Hawpe is put on waivers in anticipation of a trade possibility we’re already considering seems rather implied. I’m not saying it isn’t relevant information, just that we can’t use it as extra evidence that a Hawpe trade is being explored. I apologize if I’m nitpicking; it just didn’t strike me as all that relevant, but I fully admit it may just be because I’m a transactions nerd and already considered this to be a guarantee.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions
You could have guaranteed to me that the Rockies would have placed him on waivers today?
You are good. Again, like with Dunn this is news because it starts the actual process on Hawpe’s fate, even if that’s to remain with the Rockies. You’re a transactions nerd, so you know that as soon as they put him on there’s a clock that starts ticking until we know what happens for sure. Me, I like knowing when that clock starts. I liked knowing it with Dunn, I like knowing it now with Hawpe. I know it was inevitable too, it’s just news that it’s happening right now.
I would have been comfortable guaranteeing he'd be put on waivers sometime soon, if not already.
We know just about every MLB player is placed on waivers, and the process is supposed to be secret. I don’t see why today specifically is relevant. So far as I see, it wouldn’t have been any different had it been reported before PHLP’s suggestion or after. Again, this may just be because I already assumed he was there. I take it as a given.
I can see the timetable angle.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Though if he goes unclaimed, the timetable is the same regardless.
I still get your point. :)
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions
If he goes unclaimed, it starts another clock three days from now
Which wouldn’t have started without this one starting today.
Revocable waivers are on a two day pass instead of three, aren't they?
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I suppose two days from now can be considered inside the third day
Maybe that’s what you meant.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Two days,
I guess I was assuming that the actual process of trying to trade him wouldn’t start until the third day, but you’re right, it could start Wednesday afternoon. It’s still the same point, that wouldn’t have ever happened without this initial placement on the block.
Do we know it was today he was placed on waivers?
Rosenthal does imply it was today saying they “took the first step” Monday, today. It becomes further compl;icated since it’s “business day hours”, which I think we all decided meant weekday hours and not, like, business hours.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions
See, to me it's just another step in the process...
And if it’s a player that the Rockies have zero intention of dealing, say Tulo, or expectation of trading like Helton, then it falls in your non-news category. But with the players that we know they are thinking that there’s a chance to trade, it’s an important step in that process and I don’t mind being filled on the detail.
All right, I gotcha.
My original reasoning for pointing out that we shouldn’t read too much into it was mostly out of concern that people would think this means a trade was more likely, not necessarily harping on Rosenthal. I was just pointing out that I could see where Mondo was uncomfortable with that. It felt to me like “hey, the forest has trees!”. But I can see the complications.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions
The chances of him departing before the offseason are still slim at best
I expect a team to claim him. That in it’s self limits the possibility of a trade. And I really doubt the Rockies give him up for nothing.
Yeah, see this is the same thing,
Some fans only consider it noteworthy when an actual team to team transaction gets made, others find it interesting to follow the process leading up to that transaction. Rosenthal’s reporting on the latter but there seems to be this expectation that he shouldn’t by fans of the former.
I'm a "fan of the latter" and still confused by the importance.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Does anyone have a link to the video that everyone refers to when they talk about Tago?
by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 2:11 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
my reference
Was to the video I saw on mlbnetwork after we drafted him
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 2:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i think i found the same video on mlb.com
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7222481
wow does that fastball have a lot of movement.
by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
i cant open that until i get home
But the video sounds the same the fastball movement impressed me too.
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 2:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
How much does everyone think Helton's success since he's come off the DL played into putting Hawpe on waivers?
If Helton’s healthy then there really is not much room for Hawpe next year
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 2:36 PM MDT reply actions
None, because I think pretty much the entire team is on waivers right now.
They’re all revocable at this point.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
What do you mean by pretty much the entire team?
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Most teams put a significant amount of players on waivers at this time of the season
Just to see what happens. Nothing come of most of these players. Only a few are actually traded or released to the claiming team.
Right, which is why the whole original tweet is stupid
Harmless stupidity, to be sure, but stupid nonetheless. Nothing more than a way to somehow show he’s perhaps more plugged in or relevant than his competition, when there’s really nothing newsworthy about it at all.
Stephen Strasburg or Albert Pujols on waivers, now that would be newsworthy, because there’s not a single sensible reason for either of those players to be put on trade waivers, because no team would entertain any kind of offer for them.
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yep
alex rios is the only significant player I recall moving last year
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 2:58 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
And there, the news wasn't that he was put on waivers...it was that he was claimed
Because that was kinda like the Randy Myers waiver pickup.
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In August, almost every player is placed on revocable trade waivers to gauge interest.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Then why is Hawpe being placed on waivers news if this is so common?
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions
If you read what I'm saying above, it's news because there's actually a thought
by the Rockies that he could be traded, and so therefore it starts that process that was absolutely impossible until this actually happened.
Doesn't any player being put on waivers mean that there's a thought by that team that the player could be traded?
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Mostly just done to read the market in a player.
Here’s a brief Stark article you can read about it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=1860265
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Not really.
A lot of players go through where the team has no intention of trading. Ironically enough, one of those reasons could very well be to minimize the attention it gives to those that they actually are trying to find a partner for. “Brad, ignore that, we put everybody on waivers…”
That was my first thought.
Rox Girl argues above that knowing specifically when the move occurs is important to the proceedings, which can be the case if we get word on a claim. It’s not so much the fact that he’s on waivers, we all expected that, just the fact that he’s been put on waivers NOW.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions
The fact that he's being placed on waivers now is why I'm wondering if Helton's recent success had anything to do with it
It’s almost like the Rockies said “Hey, maybe Helton’s not done. We don’t might not need Hawpe at first next year”
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions
And my point is they probably would have put both on waivers regardless.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions
So you think the timing is a coincidence then?
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions
For the waiver placement, yes.
For the sudden interest in trading Hawpe that has been hinted at, not necessarily.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Got ya
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Excellent
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Great catch.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Jim Callis of Baseballe America
is reporting the deal was for $982,500
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Slightly over slot
Was a little worried that StL-Jenkins deal would raise the bar, but Rockies weren’t buying Tago out of football commitment.
I'm glad they got this done too
MLB’s recommendation for his No. 47 slot was $739,800.
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I'm excited about the Tago signing..
He’s a big RH with pretty good stuff. Check out the movement on his 2nd and 3rd fastball in this video. There’s another one out there somewhere that shows his curve that I will try and find.
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Here’s the video with his curve.
Look for it around the 1:45 mark.
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Awesome
Now that was real news. And great news, at that.
Wonder where Rosenthal was on that one.
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Sweet
this is excellent news
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Dang, I picked the wrong time to go down and fix a sandwich.
Yeay that we’ve got that one down given that the Parker watch will go down near the midnight deadline.
Hommy Rosado actually sounds like a good midnight snack
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Or a fashion line.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions
How do you pronounce Hommy?
I’ve been wondering this since the draft, and have yet to figure it out.
Take your name and shift the double consonant forward one.
It can only be pronounced like your name but with a “m” sound, can’t it? Maybe I’m being anal and unadventurous but those letters can only be pronounced one way as far as I can tell.
That's how I've been pronouncing it in my head.
But he speaks Spanish (and I don’t) so one can never be sure. I didn’t know if maybe it was like Homey or a had silent “H” or something unusual.
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 3:18 PM MDT reply actions
This is the guy
I wanted to sign today anyway. Come pitch for us Peter.
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Casper has games until September 9
there is still some time (assuming he has been throwing a little lately). They could pull a Matzek and hold him off for a year now.
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Seems to be par for the course these days
So many high picks coming down to the deadline to sign. Not sure if it’s agents or front offices that are most responsible for that trend. I strongly suspect it’s the agents…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions
In this case, I really think it's MLB
In a misguided attempt to hold bonuses down by not approving over slot deals until the very last second, so as to not give other draftees ammunition in that draft, e.g., player C’s agent says player B signed for xxxx, but my guy was drafted four spots higher, so he deserves xxxx + 20%.
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Great point
I totally forgot about the “no bonus over slot until we say so” factor.
I guess I can see the idea there, but if it costs these kids a chance to get a few weeks of pro ball under their belts this year, I can’t say I love the idea…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions
That's part of why I call it "misguided"
The other is that I don’t really see it holding down bonuses anyway. It’s not as if any high picks are actually signing under slot.
So the only real effect is to delay signings and getting players into the system, without any actual positive gain.
Other than a few young arms avoiding a few innings, which isn’t entirely meaningless, but probably doesn’t have that huge of an overall impact.
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I do see one problem with this...
….I know, everyone’s assuming there’s going to be some kind of slotting system (and I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing one).
However, here’s the problem. Draftees are not subject to the CBA. They don’t receive the benefits of ML collective bargaining, and they’re not subject to the CBA’s provisions, because they are not professional baseball players. And further to that end, the MLBPA does not actually have the right or authority to negotiate contract rules affecting only newly unsigned draftees.
I strongly suspect that a few of the highest profile agents are going to get together and file an antitrust suit over the entire slotting system, because of this, and there’s a strong likelihood they would win. Because MLB has no authority to contract with the MLBPA on what Peter Tago’s signing bonus can be, because Peter Tago is not a member of the MLBPA.
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But don't other sports have slotting systems?
And they would be in the same situation.
And why would agents, who represent players who are covered by the MLBPA, go that far for something that the MLBPA would probably be okay with?
As to the latter, I don't really have a great answer....
….other than this. When you sign with an agent, I’m pretty certain that agent has a fiduciary duty to represent your interests, and not to take any action that directly runs counter to your interests.
An agent willing to accept a slotting system may be perceived as acting against the interests of his current client base, in that he’s working to limit salaries. That may or may not be a stretch, but it is an arguable position.
And, further, the MLBPA may be “for” a slotting system, under the argument that money paid to non-MLBPA members is money not going to current MLBPA members…but again, the MLBPA arguably does not even have the authority to accept a slotting system.
As for the other sports…well, it’s been stated on here many times before how every other professional atheletes’ union <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< MLBPA. Each other major team sport’s players union (NFL, NBA, NHL) has gotten their ass kicked pretty much repeatedly over the history of labor relations. The MLBPA has not. Much of that is directly attributable to either a) the co-opting of the union’s leadership by the governing body of the league, or b) the selling out of younger pro and future generation pro players by the top 20-30 earners in the league.
Neither of which has come close to taking place with regard to the MLBPA.
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Right, I know the other unions aren't as strong as the MLBPA.
But what I was asking was why agents in other sports haven’t tried to challenge these slotting systems. I don’t see how that has anything to do with the strength of the respective unions, if they truly have no authority over the draft.
And even if the MLBPA has no jurisdiction, would agents really try to challenge a system that the MLBPA has no problem with? You obviously know more on the legal front than I do, but I just don’t see a challenge as you describe as terribly likely.
All of this is just theorizing on my part, but...
I think the root cause of agents in other sports not trying to fight slotting systems in those sports is because the agents do not actually have standing to challenge them. The agents are not parties to the labor agreements.
As for not agents not challenging an MLB slotting system, well, the agents themselves wouldn’t have a legal cause of action. The cause of action would be held by some future draftee, whose income is potentially negatively affected. And any lawsuit would have to be brought by that player, at that time.
Why they wouldn’t challenge it? Well, this actually strikes me as an ethical conflict of interest for the agents, potentially leaving themselves open to lawsuits from future clients. But that’s tricky. Say Boras right now says “hey, I’m all for a slotting system taking effect next year”. Well, he does not presently owe a fiduciary duty to any amateur player who is not a client of his right now, so he doesn’t owe them a duty to not bargain against their interests, and that can’t be made to apply retroactively. In other words, a player down the line, who is not his client now, can’t complain that Boras cost him money later.
One thing to remember is that the agents are not a party to the MLBPA. Undoubtedly, they’re whispering words to the teams’ player reps, but they don’t have a place at the negotiating table.
And beyond that, the union may not be raising a stink about proposed slotting right now, but that’s only because they’re trying to get money saved by slotting into revenue that will make it’s way to MLB players. If they ever perceive that all slotting will achieve is money saved by owners and going into owners’ pockets, then they will have no incentive to accept slotting in negotiations anyway.
Right now, the union is probably accepting the idea of agreeing to slotting, in exchange for getting concessions from ownership in other areas, thus making slotting just another bargaining chip.
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thats why
And someone correct me if I’m wrong they’re actually talking about moving the signing deadline up
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:29 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
jim callis reporting bonus is 982,500 for tago
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:19 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
not bad
for a supplemental pick with his talent level.
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JFK
Yep
Keep stocking the farm
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions
What the status on getting Rosado signed?
Anyone heard any chatter on this?
Is no news good news?
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Have heard no chatter at all.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions
In this case no news is no news
There are a lot of complications in getting information on him (his family lives in Puerto Rico and speaks only Spanish, LSU-E isn’t a bigtime program and he’s a later round draft pick) which will make getting info frustrating. That said, I e-mailed a reporter who tweeted about him a month ago and learned that the coaches at Eunice weren’t that sure he’d show up to campus this month. That’s about as much assurance as I can give you.
No news is no news
Rosado just isn’t high profile enough for chatter today, nor does he have a major college program and it’s media keeping tabs on him, ala Parker. Doesn’t mean good or bad, just means the Jim Callis’ of the world aren’t checking into the Hommy Rosado’s of the draft today.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 3:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
If we don't sign Parker
there is concern that we would lose our leverage next year. How does that scenario compare to the Rays this year selecting Justin O’Conner at #31 this year? He was rumored to go some where in the bottom half of round one. They took a shot and it seemed to pay off.
It seems to me that there is more leverage for the team in next year’s draft. The uncertainty in how the new CBA will impact bonuses in 2012 has to be getting college Jrs. thinking to themselves "Hey, I’ve been drafted in the bottom of the first round. If I don’t sign this year (2011) then there is the risk that I lose my leverage as a Sr. and that I will fall and get less next year if they institute a slotting system."
If next year is as deep as it is rumored to be and there is the possibility of slotting in 2012, then I think this year of any makes the most sense to play hardball.
TGFPR!!
Any player they draft next year
has to be signed or they do not receive a comp pick, giving the team zero leverage.
Zero leverage sounds harsh and could be misleading
The idea is essentially that the team get a good player and the player gets a good deal. If it’s negotiated right it should be win/win for both parties. Not being able to use the “well if you don’t sign we get compensated” line may make a few tens of thousand difference to the fee but it’s not suddenly like the player can name his price. If the team pull out, the player could lose bigtime too.
Rockies still short on leverage
Player can get drafted again even with slot, Rockies get nothing.
All this 2012 slotting talk assumes slot amounts would stay the same with the hard cap, but that would suggest MLBPA pretty much punted on these negotiations. I don’t think hard slotting is as easy as it is suggested.
by David OhNo on Aug 16, 2010 4:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Tago heads to Casper
Release:
Colorado Rockies supplemental First Round pick Peter Tago has been assigned to the Casper Ghosts. Tago will join the Ghosts on the road in Helena. Make sure to come cheer on Tago and the Ghosts next Tuesday night. Call 232-1111 for more information.
Not sure if he’ll pitch or not.
i hope he pitches
It’d be nice to know how heavily he has been working out and throwing
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The Clam before the Storm!
Things should pick up soon.
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Did you really spend the last hour of your life doctoring a clam before the storm image?
You need a new hobby.
It only took 20 minutes..
To combine these different pics into one impending storm of signing day.
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Just under
2 hours to go
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I remember there being more interest last year in draft signing day
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Tyler Matzek was a bigger draft day talent.
It’s probably to be expected there’d be some drop off of interest from Rockies fans for Parker.
Plus, I think a lot of fans were sort of using Matzek as a test of ownership
Which they passed, and so now there’s not that worry so much anymore.
Especially since more people here seemed interested in Tago
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I was more interested in Tago
though I don’t really have a good reason for it
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I hope he signs
Even if he was a “reach” and an injury risk. the more players that could be good the better
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Woohoo people are still here
I was starting to feel like i was alone and didn’t want to start talking to myself
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I talk to myself all the time.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I do.
Sometimes with multiple answers.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Ya i do too
but not by responding to my own internet posts then i’d feel weird
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It used to happen here a lot when like ten people posted here.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm still not convinced you're all just not extensions of my personality manifested on the internet.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Actually,
I’m me, Rox Girl, and at least 20 other people here. Why do you think I don’t actually ever give an opinion on this site?
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You give Star Wars and historical opinions all the time.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions
On the Rockies.
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Well,
you’re not me.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 8:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Prove it.
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Uh....
HATE = HATE!!!
HATE = HATE!!!
HATE = HATE!!!
HATE = HATE!!!
HATE = HATE!!!
Aw, crap, though, I kinda like Star Wars.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 8:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Personalities can disagree.
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Or agree.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions
She should secede from covering this story.
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To be fair
She does lead a truly exciting life.
To entertain while you wait...
Read about Rafael Ortega.
And, yes, my headline absolutely was “Cowabunga!” in the paper. Proud moment.
http://trib.com/sports/pro/article_9b755f3b-ce9d-5521-b4ac-dc67bfb9a889.html
Actually read this on my cool Pioneer Baseball App.
Good story, Ortega will be fun to follow on hopefully next year’s loaded Asheville team.
There's an app for that?
Which phone do you have?
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iPhone
I think it was CST that posted about it earlier.
Someone actually downloaded it?
Sweet.
It is actually a really cool app. You click on a team and it gives you all stories tagged with that team. We’re working on putting skeds/stats/rosters/bios and whatnot in there.
Is it available for Android?
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Yes
I believe it was tested on Androids as Wyoming doesn’t have iPhone service.
Search for Pioneer Baseball, I believe.
I just downloaded it..
There’s a good story by Jennifer Kilmer in there about the Ghost’s Latin pitchers. Except the part where she wrote:
They all hail from the South American country.
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I should take the fall for that
Edited by me and I’ll go ahead and hope the print edition said “same” in there.
Ahh..
Rox Girl has the same problem with Russ’ editing snafus.
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Ortega is probably a very underrated prospect. I suspect he’ll be the best OF on next year’s Asheville team, particularly if his power continues to develop (he squares the ball up very well for a 19 year old facing mostly college pitchers).
I got Dickerson's autograph...
if that counts for anything.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
When I first read this
I thought it was CST replying to me and immediately thought about the Tebow brouhah from last night.
What happened?
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JFK
/sigh
some people just don’t think
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Yes
Dickerson struggles against lefties (though, he’s picked that up a bit) and changes his stance demonstrably throughout an at bat.
He’s not as toolsy as I anticipated, either.
His batting stance changes
annoyed the crap out of me the one game I got to see. Almost straight up when fewer than two strikes and almost 3 feet tall (slight exaggeration) with 2 strikes. I don’t know how the coaches will let him continue that into next year.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Oh, you mean "Midget Mode"
It’s weird and negates any potential power he’ll have.
I agree
I don’t see him being a slap hitter for some reason, and that is what he’s trying to do with two strikes. Yes he should shorten up and spread out his stance a little but not to the extreme he takes it.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
That's what instructs are for
I’m sure they’ll start to straighten him out.
Frankly
I was surprised they haven’t started yet.
He has good plate discipline and is probably the team’s best power hitter, but I still think Ortega edges him out as top Casper prospect (followed by Adames and Campos/Mejias).
Don't want to say anything mean, so...
Let’s hope he knows how to play multiple positions?
That was the first thing I noticed about Dickerson when I sat behind home plate
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions
yep
first thing I noticed too
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JFK
Was this from the same game?
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
yep
the lady is wearing yellow in both pictures
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JFK
Good catch
And also Yikes on those separate stances
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
They were consecutive pitches
I realize the RH photo is darker, but that may have had to do with a cloud. They were stills from a video, and I only got one AB
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
the second one with two strikes?
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JFK
I think you may be right about that
Though I can’t say I was paying as much attention to the count as just keeping the camera in focus through the netting
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Good job through the screen
The game I was at he only dropped down with 2 stirkes
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JFK
That's certainly possible
I seem to recall him popping up on the RH pitch as well
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
The crouched stance would affect his swing arc..
limiting the time his bat is in the same plane as the ball.
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Oh dear that's even worse then
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't see the Cowabunga....
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 8:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Which league was he referring to as having more experienced pitchers?
“The pitchers have more experience and better stuff, but it’s the same baseball,” said Ortega of the difference between the Dominican Summer League, where he hit .324 with 39 stolen bases last year, and the Pioneer League.
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Pioneer League, by a long shot.
Ogden, for example, has a roster loaded with college players. A lot of these teams (Casper included) have a bullpen full of 23-year-olds who have gone through college and summer leagues in college.
It’s why guys like Adames and Ortega, who have both held their own, and Crousset to a lesser extent, probably deserve more buzz, as Rox Girl said earlier.
What have you seen of Albert Campos?
He’s got another three hit shutout going tonight, and has been putting up some nifty numbers.
I saw him early
When he was on a strict pitch count.
I just mentioned him above as probably the team’s fourth or fifth-best prospect. I should be able to get out and catch a couple games next week, so hopefully he’ll be on the bump.
I'm hoping to catch one of their Sept games in Orem or Ogden next month.
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Etkin had some notes on Crousset
And he’s put up some good contact numbers. I’m pretty excited about the position players in Casper.
yeah you r the voice of the Rockies
i prefer “Rockies Insider” where it isn’t run by a group of wannbe GMs
It was a drive-by fruiting!!
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Did anyone check out
the new tagline for the site?
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nice Russ
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JFK
classy!
That’ll show em!! :-p
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and i dont know how to use the links
http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20100815/SPORTS/308150054/1007/COLUMNISTS
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Matzek would get along with Twins manager Ron Gardenhire..
That’s the second time this season he has not allowed a hit in more than five innings of work, but he also left the game June 24 vs. Savannah after 5 2-3 hitless innings after walking five and striking out five.
"Looking at one game is short-term thinking, and you have to think long term," he said. "If you look at your career, it’s not going to be based on one game, even if that’s a no-hitter. To me, a no-hitter is when you don’t walk anyone or maybe one, not a no-hitter with a bunch of walks."
Uhh Ty, a no-no without a walk is called ‘a perfect game’.
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What the heck is a "twitter"?
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 8:46 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well you tell people about your Daley schedule..
like right now, I’m hanging with prettyinpurple!
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Who cares what your doing:
you’re basically still a Cookie!
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 8:59 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Ugh..
I’m actually older than Cookie, he’s my sister’s age.
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Here ya go
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
It's funny how this image has become part of my vocabulary..
I muttered it at work last week when the district manager yelled at me.
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OH.MY.GOD....
I have said “THIS” during conversations. And I think of this sad face when sad…..lol
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You know what's funny
I can’t even remember the first time I posted it or what it was even for (probably for the Rockies losing but I don’t know).
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Whenever I Google Image search “purple row”, this always comes up.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:27 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions
ha!
I just searched it, and a bunch of funny stuff came up, mostly by Charlie77.
Search “purple row rockies” and the 2nd page has it, along with that mullet dog.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow there's some funny stuff in those pictures
Sadly I remember what pretty much all of them were from
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions
And look, I found Waldo!!!
/and his little dog too!!
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how cute
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JFK
And the pic
to the left is also mine.
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What about the one that sits one spot up and one spot over
of you and your Chihuahua under “Purple Row rockies”
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Nooooo.
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Hee hee
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by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
I posted the Slowpoke just ONCE, and it shows up there?
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions
I only posted the birthday cake once.
But it was delicious, so…
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hehe
I say VAPORS! now…
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, yeah,
And “TEH”.
And the other night I asked my dad “CANZ I GOE WIFF YOU?” and he was all “were did you learn THAT?”.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
hah....I said "I has a sad" to a friend of mine.....
It was hard to explain…..
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you know you spend too much time on PR when...
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
pretty much
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Oh, yes.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:46 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Dude,
don’t let the district manager yell at you.
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Dude..
you know what retail’s like.
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Considering I work
for Target, yes.
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My work just announced we will be open on Thanksgiving this year..
since they took away Easter a few years ago the only holiday left is Christmas.
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Wow, that sucks.
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Fun Fact: CSP pitcher Damian Moss was pulled while throwing a no-hitter for the Braves in 2002
Moss had walked seven in seven innings and threw 116 pitches. Vinny Castilla was the starting 3B that day and John Smoltz got the save in the 12th inning.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Of course, he's long gone from CSP now.
But never to be forgotten, it seems.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Got his autograph in ST
/for some reason nobody else wanted it…
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
I remember somebody had.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions
To be honest, I hadn't realized he had been jettisoned
He was there at the end of June
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
He was released June 23rd.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Poor guy held on as long as he could
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
OT: Dodgers blow 3 run lead in the 9th :)
Padres beating the hapless FailBears…and Soriano is a lollygagger
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Juan Rincon blew a 2 run lead for the Sky Sox.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions
This is not surprising.....
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CSP's bullpen has improved significantly over the past few weeks.
Rincon did not join the party.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
That might
be the worst bullpen outside of Reynolds I’ve seen the Sox have in a while
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JFK
It was for a while.
Aside from one bad outing (where Reynolds was bad too), Edgmer Escalona has been fantastic since the break. Andrew Johnston is back from injury as well. Morales is keeping his head above the water too, at least.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions
You just beat my post about Johnston.
He was very good before his injury.
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It sucks so much
We are getting absolutely no help from anywhere. Braves are 7-3 in their last 10, Phils are 7-3 in their last 10, Padres are 7-3 in their last 10, Reds are 7-3 in their last 10, and the Cards are 6-4 in their last 10. The only team that’s ahead of us who has not played great in the last 10 is the Giants and they are 5-5.
The hill the Rockies have to climb keeps getting steeper.
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions
1 hour til the deadline.
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I remember last year, I was refreshing the browser constantly waiting for the article.
I made the first comment, something along the lines of “THEY DID IT!!!!!!!!!”. I was too excited even to link.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I think 11:59
I say it goes down to the last minute again
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I say it doesn't get done.
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12:03
I’m just playing a GM here.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions
dun dun dun
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 8:59 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Ruh roh....Cubs have made it 7-5 bottom of the 8th....
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This is what the Cubs do
They suck you back in just so they can rip your heart out again. Now I know why so many people at Wrigley field are always drunk. You can’t watch that team sober.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Ha.....good point
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Is that why they're always sharing with others?
Like the Phillies Shane Victorino or crosstown White Sox player Al Smith.
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Heh....maybe so....just trying to be neighborly...
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Diamondbacks signed Ty Linton according to Keith Law
he basically became their primary target after Loux’s shoulder damage materialized. Good pick-up for them.
So they are pretty much in 2012 or 2013 mode now right?
Just trying to time a wave of good young talent all coming up at the same time and make a run
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Linton would be a year or two after that.
And given that a lot of their 2009 draft talent was high school aged as well, I think you’re realistically looking at 2014 as the opening of their next target window unless they trade their younger guys for more advanced talent.
Wow
They are even more screwed thanI thought
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions
hmm
Kyle Parker’s hair looks dyed, that’s my opinion.
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by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:15 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Is this a bad thing?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Good thing baseball caps are capable of hiding bad hair. Hopefully it hides a lot of it.
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by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Tulo's found a way around that
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I know.
/sigh
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:47 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
But it seems like the longer it gets the better he hits
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions
fairly sure Smith
is regretting shaving the beard now that he is in a super slump
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I think we may be on to something here
More hair = better bat
This would explain Barmes’s stuggles
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Matt Holliday is the opposite of all rules
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Plus he's been gone for a couple of years now
I think it applies to this year’s team.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions
More hair might mean better pitching too
Beimelownage
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Nah
Ubaldo ruins that
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
If Ubaldo had Beimel hair, he'd have a 0.00 ERA and twenty perfect games
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Next year then :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
hmmm Hawpe has nice hair.....this dispels your theory
as does Seth Smith
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It's not about how nice it is
It about how much you have and how long you let it grow or if you do crazy things with it.
Tulo’s mullet, Cargo’s mowhawk, Smith beard when he had it and was hitting well………………………..
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry, I meant the fact that they have hair...lol
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And they are doing decent
Hair = decent
Bald = Bad
Mullet or mowhawk = Awesome
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes.
In fact, that pic looks so bad it looks as if he’s wearin a blond wig.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 9:18 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think he looks like an Amish man or a Quaker
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It also looks like he has stolen John Krasinski's smile
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Umm im not sure if im supposed to go off topic in here or not buuuuut
has anyone seen invictus and should I bother watching it?
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I've no idea
but I’m playing hand-held yahtzee waiting with you folks
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Is it wrong to wish the Matt Harrington Curse on Parker if he doesn't sign?
Clint Barmes is not a good hitter.
Free Chris Nelson.... again.
no, it's not wrong,
As I’m guessing if that happens to another Rockies draftee or two that fails to sign, we’ll be able to offer half slot to all our future first round picks.
For the NL West
The big three unsigned players we’re watching are Whitson with San Diego, Parker with the Rockies and Lee with the Dodgers. Still no final word either way on any of them.
8 minutes
left for your prediction
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JFK
That was a funny article about Lee that RMN read on Rowbot Radio..
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during the SB Nation Denver after party.
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Pads beat the Cubs 9-5
They are the first NL team to 70 wins and are now 23 games over .500.
If you told me that this was going to happen at the start of the season you could knock me over with a feather right now. I can’t believe that team is that good.
If they hold on and win this division the entire SABER community is going to have a whole hell of a lot of explaining to do.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:37 PM MDT reply actions
I didn't know they would be this good....
But I also knew they were a serious threat…..I told you all so…
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At least
they are a team I can root for in the playoffs (just in case)
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
As long as the
Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, O’s, Blue Jays, Indians, Royals, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, A’s, Angels, Mariners, Rangers, Phils, Mets, Nats, Brraves, Marlins, Brewers, Astros, Cards, Reds, Cubs, Pirates, Pads, Dodgers, Giants or D’Backs don’t win the World Series, I’ll be very happy.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Stupid Padres win ....AGAIN.
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19 minutes and counting
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JFK
What does that mean?
We haven’t backed away from our steadfast offer? Or we haven’t thrown in the towel?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
we can hope
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JFK
That was my presumption as well
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Renck tweets
Last year with Tyler Matzek, it literally went down to the final minutes. Parker turned down $2.2 million.
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I'm not sure if Renck's referencing right now, or the previous time Parker turned down $2.2 million
Which was mentioned in the articles up above.
Parker turned down $2.2 via Renck
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JFK
Today?
That would suggest they’re buying out football. Otherwise, he’s either using old information or the the Rockies are elbows deep in this.
One thing to keep in mind
His dad played in the NFL. I’ve no idea what his financial situation is, but it could be a situation where losing a million might not be worth losing the fun of college for him.
I can't imagine a situation where "losing a million" would be worth it.
Well that is assuming that I never win the World Series of Poker.
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I like your tweet to Renck
Unfortunate typo
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I think it was brilliant.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Was thinking the same thing.
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Maybe he just ignored it.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Sounds like he might need to see a Doctor....
Maybe that condition has had an effect on what we’re offering him??
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I missed it when I re-read it too
I guess it’s how I really feel about football!
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With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
If it's done at literally the last second, we may not know for a little bit afterwards
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep
It’s just like the trading deadline all over again
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Any reports of how much Parker's side asked for?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 9:51 PM MDT reply actions
Harper hasn't signed yet either
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Drew Pomeranz signed, apparently.
I believe our Stu Pomeranz is his brother or similar relative.
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I'm eightythreeve percent sure that they are brothers
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow.
There was almost no expectation of that until recent days
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
McCourt sold his wife.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Funny on multiple levels
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions
This
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
You can do that?
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Dodgers sign Zach Lee
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I suppose
I can assume we all follow the same people.
Chelsea Lately?
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Texts From Last Night?
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That's really odd
I’m actually reading through that site right now after a friend told me he sent one of mine in and it got published.
Which one?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Was it:
Just a heads up. Everytime I get arrested in Maine I claim I lost my ID and use your name.
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I'm betting it's on this page
http://www.textsfromlastnight.com/Texts-From-Areacode-307.html
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
False
I have an out-of-state area code.
And it’s not one I’m super proud of, otherwise I’d gladly share.
Darn
The first one was even baseball related
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Most of those sayings aren't moments that would make someone proud to admit it..
although it’s cool you can order it on a t-shirt.
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Well, then
my mother’s day shopping just got a bit easier, didn’t it?
Oh, now I know which one you sent!
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Are you superior to Sarah Silverman?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
When are you going to start 'sharing' on the twitter?
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Distinct possibility
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
We may all even be using the same feed.
I made my baseball feed public, but I don’t think anyone else uses it.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Midnight ET
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JFK
Some were saying it'd take $10 mil.
Hehe
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought he'd get more
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Nationals fans can now breath
Although if he didn’t sign he would have to play another year of college/juco and he wouldn’t be happy that he missed his chance.
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JFK
The Nats are gonna sell a lot of tickets with him and Strasburg there in a couple of years
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
There were bared 21k for Strasburg’s start yesterday on a Sunday afternoon
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Really?
You couldn’t get a ticket to one of his starts a month ago
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
he had a bad start
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Agreed, but should give till about 10:12 or so....
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
We'll also probably get a "Rox fail to sign Parker" note somewhere too.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Nick Castellanos, who was on our radar back in June, signed at the deadline as well.
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for $3.45
Yikes
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
million, naturally
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
about tree fiddy
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
for a huge frickin' amount.
And Aaron Fitt poors salt on my wounds as an appreciator of Trojans baseball.
I didn't follow the baseball team at all.
Though it does make me a pseudofan of Randy Flores. I showed him my USC hat (visible in my avatar) from the bullpen railing a couple months ago.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Needs more salt.
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If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I can live with this
"Don't give up, don't ever give up" - Jim Valvano
by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
WHAT
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Good
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Several scattered about.
Callis.below
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
/mkorpal downright shocked
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Shocked and thrilled!
Thrilled that he signed, and shocked that we got him at that price. I assume the difference between this and the $2.2 has to do with football?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
This x3, awesome for the cost, even if he gets to play football.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice job nkrause
You win
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
YES!
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Not enough to buy out football
but still pretty good
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Don't believe buying out football was on the table today
Lower than I expected, but thought numbers around 2 mil were crazy.
I wasn't thinking football was a possibility at all actually
the $1.4 is lower than I expected
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Would have been huge about face to give up football now
And would have put his character in question.
Better than $3.45 for Castellanos
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm not to happy about that number
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
via Jim Callis and Baseball America
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/21373647404
http://twitter.com/blakebomber
by BlakeBomber on Aug 16, 2010 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I love how Jim Callis ends his texts with
as if he has holy information.
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texts?
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Yeah, we're close like that.
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Renck still hasn't tweeted the news
Should I tell him?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:11 PM MDT reply actions
Ha I thought about it
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
do it
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
I already had.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Tweeted it now, though
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
more than one isn't bad
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
It'd be bad now.
He tweeted a couple seconds before I sent mine to him.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
He has it now.
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Maybe I should move to Asheville
That outfield will be stacked
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Move to Modesto
The least covered of our minor league teams by far
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
But I don't like it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I watched Monsters vs. Aliens this evening, which takes place partially in Modesto.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
All I can say is
Go Clemsen offensive line.
by mkorpal on Aug 16, 2010 10:13 PM MDT reply actions 5 recs
rec
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Pretty sure club is $$$ protected if it fails
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Yo-ho!
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
A pirate's life for me.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
IS THIS THE TURNING POINT IN THEIR SEASON? :-)
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep.
Option years begin immediately.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
YEP
Options and 40-man space required. I wonder if 2010 counts as option year 1?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Unless they bring him up before 20 days, it does.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
They might
Bring him up this year for an AB or two similar to the Mariners with ARod.
ARod was amazing
Is Harper the next ARod (talent wise?)
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
It should be noted he gets an extra option year.
He’s currently 18.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
So in addition to this one, he still has three following.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I feel old now
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I felt old
when I realized there were players in Casper that were younger than my sister who is starting her sophomore year of collge
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
hehe
It scary for me when the players birthdates get closer and closer to mine each year, I can’t imagine how scary it is for all you folks on the otherside…
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 10:23 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
GET OFF MY LAWN!
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and pull up your pants
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
JFK
Get a haircut!
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes, starts using options this coming spring, lol
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Should start using options this coming now.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Well that's different
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Rosado
I don’t know that no information means no Rosado, given that he probably didn’t get a super huge bonus and is low on the radar, but I’m still curious.
I have a hard time believing the 600K number being thrown out there early (and an even harder time believing he’d say no to it), but I still assumed he’d sign.
Could there be a slotting issue with him delaying the announcement?
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He's not really the kind that be announbced in this madness anyway
The kind to show up via announcement on BA tomorrow.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
not at this point.
The only issue would be lack of notoriety, but if it’s as above slot as he was demanding, that would get noticed.
I'm thinking I should mark my calendar for November 6th
It’s when NC State plays Clemson.
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I dislike both teams
but will just cheer for 0 sacks
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
That would be an interesting game to watch
all Rockies brass praying a meteor does not strike.
Wyoming baseball --- GO GHOSTS!
by Kris Hansen on Aug 16, 2010 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Well at least now I have a college football team to watch this year.
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you have two
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions
What's the other one?
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Russell Wilson is NC States starting quarterback
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I was so glad when Matzek allowed us to sign him to a minor league contract.
He cited the Rockies devotion to their farm as the key in that decision. Makes you wonder if he had been drafted by another team, would he have accepted a MiLB deal?
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Lee quit football, Parker did not
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Yep
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
That's a great deal more than they were reportedly offering
I’m shocked
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2010 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions
OT: Did you guys see Christian Friedrich nearly threw a perfect game?
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When?
It certainly wasn’t today
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
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Oh.
Don’t do that. lol
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 16, 2010 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Banned for a week
lol
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 16, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah, I saw that earlier.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2010 10:39 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
So Kyle Parker basically paid $800,000 to play one year of football for Clemson
(difference between the $2.2M offer he reportedly refused and the $1.4M offer he accepted)
In some ways it’s refreshing to see that in an “it’s all about the money” athletic world. In other ways that seems like the kind of thing a kid could easily come to regret. Hopefully it all works out for him.
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He should have gone to an SEC school
They could have made up the difference for him…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2010 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
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