Saturday Rockpile: Hanging 'em up (for some, only for 2010; for others, possibly for good)
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 21, 2010 9:07 AM MDT
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PrintAfter last night's stunning (to me, at least) 4-3 loss to the Diamondbacks, I'm going all Negative Nancy on everyone and stating that I believe the season is over for the 2010 Rockies. I'll keep watching, as there are many, many other beauties to watching this team (and baseball, in general) besides knowing they're in the playoff hunt. But, as far as contending for the division, or even the wild card, in my opinion the Rox buried themselves for good last night.
Am I bummed about it? Absolutely, but I also hold out a ton of hope for the future, and you should too. Last year was NOT this team's last rendezvous, I can guarantee you that. However, with the possibility of at least another four key members of our 2007 run departing after this season, changes will be in order. I have no reason to believe that Dan O'Dowd and the Rockies' brass won't make the best decisions in doing so, either. But, until then, say goodbye to 2010. It has been fun, it has been miserable, and it has certainly been everywhere in between. There are just too damn many inexplicably soul-crushing things that have happened to this team lately, and I don't think they're going to recover. To the links...
Kiszla: Time for Helton to hang 'em up - The Denver Post
Mark Kiszla's birthday present for Todd Helton was a piece on how the greatest Rockie of all-time should put down his bat for good. Kiszla has a lot of nice things to say about Todd, and they're all warranted. However, it's possible that his urging of Helton to give it up may be, as well. The guy's back doesn't seem to allow him to produce at a level that he's comfortable with, and being a prideful guy, I don't know that he'll want to stick around much longer if he can't contribute like he's accustomed to doing. My personal opinion is that he probably should give it up. He looks like he's in complete agony every time he swings the bat, and thus, has had a lot of downright awkward-looking at-bats this season. He doesn't hit the ball with much authority anymore, and he strikes out way more now than he ever has in his career, possibility with the exception of his rookie season.
With that being said, my gut feeling is that Helton will be back in 2011 to try giving it one last shot. There's no way he'll be back after that if next year is anything like this year, though.
More links after the jump...
The Rockies' 2011 Rotation: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
Ben Nicholson-Smith at MLBTR discusses possibilities for the Rockies' 2011 rotation. My guess is that it will look a lot like this year's - as in, it will be Ubaldo Jimenez, Jason Hammel, Jhoulys Chacin, Jeff Francis, and Aaron Cook. Francis, provided he can show he's healthy, has pitched like he's worth every penny of his $7 million option. Cook will be looking to get back to form. However, they're going to need some depth in the event that something happens to one or both of those guys - or anyone else, for that matter. I think (hope) that Rogers ends up in the bullpen, and nobody else in the system is close enough to the big league level to be a factor when the beginning of next season comes around.
Dan O'Dowd will probably do his usual searching of the scrap bin for possible reclamation projects instead of spending big money on a free agent like Cliff Lee (or even Jorge De La Rosa, for that matter). I can't say I blame him, though I believe there needs to be some money spent to upgrade the offense.
Tracy: Hawpe could still be in team's future - The Denver Post
This could be potentially awkward for all of us sentimentalists who have been waxing poetic about Brad Hawpe over the past few days. But, if he can help the team, there's no reason not to try bringing him back - but, as Renck says, it would have to be at a lower salary than what he made this year. Also in that piece, Carlos Gonzalez is making progress and likely won't end up on the DL, Jeff Francis may start throwing off a mound as soon as today, and Jim Tracy had some nice things to say about rookie Matt Reynolds.
Giants Could Pick Up OF Hawpe
Hawpe appears to be on the Giants' radar, according to CSN Bay Area's Mychael Urban. The Giants already face a few roster constraints, so it may not be entirely possible at this point. However, he would be a nice pickup for a team that has a propensity for struggling offensively.
Morales showing signs of improvement | Inside the Colorado Rockies
Jack Etkin checks in with a piece about Franklin Morales' recent improvement in Colorado Springs. He still needs to cut down on his walks, but he strikes out more than a batter per inning. He may never show completely adequate control, but he's still a more-than-viable LOOGY option, at the very least, for the major league club. In fact, Morales will likely get the call from Jim Tracy in a few days when he decides to add another bullpen arm to replace Randy Flores.
Setback breaks win-loss streak - The Denver Post
As pathetic as the "streak" was I would have liked to see it continue (at least for one more day for obvious reasons), rather than breaking it in such heart-grinding fashion.
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WELL ITS ABOUT TIME THE ROCKPILE WENT UP.
/kidding
Garsh I’m tired. And nothing to do all mornin except DRINK COFFEE!
Tomorrow I leave for PIP’S JOURNEY INTO ENEMY TERRITORY and you should be excited for me.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 9:12 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
How's that hangover?
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by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Hey
the Rockahol didn’t do it too bad for me.
I had to wake up at thr crack of dawn, literally, though, and that was not fun. I then made some gross coffee.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 9:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather see Rogers in the 2011 rotation than Cook at this point.
Rogers is still young and will probably experience his share of inconsistency, but his 3.28 FIP is much better than Cook’s 4.69. Also, Cook has seemed to be trending down for a while now, a la Garret Atkins (and according to some people Brad Hawpe). He just doesn’t seem to have the control that he used to.
I agree.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 9:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the Rockies are going to try hard to move him this winter
Be it by swallowing salary or exchanging bad contracts with another team.
Btw, JDLR’s 2010 season will probably be keeping his salary a lot lower than people seem to be expecting. Oliver Perez signed his contract extension with the Mets coming off couple of solid, durable seasons. JDLR had one good year in 2009, and then this inconsistent, injury marred year, which makes him more of a risk going forward.
So if JDLR is cheap because he was inconsistent
does that make the Rockies more or less likely to resign him? I mean 3/$27 million is a lot of money for the Rockies to spend on a pitcher who may or may not replicate his 2009 form
I guess what I'm saying is that if the Rockies aren't going to go after the big fish in the pond
They will have no choice but to take risks on the lesser FA’s. It will be a test of the front office if they make the right decisions on those. Is JDLR a better risk 3/$27 million than whatever Ted Lilly’s going to go for? I’m not entirely sure, I hope the FO knows better than I do.
I guess the risk is worth it
if you think you can get JDLR back down to being a sub 4 ERA pitcher, or even a little higher. I just like a rotation with him in it better than one where Francis is the lefty option.
And as soon as I post that
I realize he never actually has posted a sub 4 ERA year with the rockies. But he has had FIPs at or under 4, compared to 4.44 this year.
25 runners left on base!
Off-hand, anyone know what the season high is? I know there have been a lot of games in the 20s, which is effing ridiculous. 25 has to be about at the top, right?
Cripes! You almost have to try to leave that many runners on.
There is no way the Rockies left 25 men on base last night
That would men they would have had to leave the bases loaded at least five times in a 10 inning game.
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 21, 2010 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions
It doesn't really mean that though.
Because if one guy strikes out with a runner on, then the next guy makes an out to end the inning, they both get credited with one LOB, while there is only one runner left at the end of the inning.
Dude, Arthur's 3-yo little sister sent me an e-mail?
and she’s a Dogger fan? For your entertainment (because this was raucous laughter to wake up to on a Saturday morning):
the dodgers have fans?
by Rox the Casbah on Aug 19, 2010 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions
about 2.7 million every year…..
by SDcat09 on Aug 19, 2010 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions
my question stands ;-)
I don’t know what SD get there numbers you even a fool to say if the Dodgers have fans but do the Rockies have fans and not when you guys made the WS for the 1st time in franchase history? Do you know LA is a big market than Denver? Well even with our fansbase the real fans that have job are the one that arrive late in the 3rd innings and leaving in the 7th and even that we’re still outdrawn you guys every year 4+ millions and we average around 44,723 filled our capacity which we be almost 80% and you guys are average around 35,854 and that’s 71.1% look like you guys have no fans and you would not disrespect are fanbases when you guys are even worst.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance
… IT GETS BETTER…
I hate Matt Kemp.
by Rox the Casbah on Aug 19, 2010 10:00 PM MDT reply actions
Yes we hate Kemp because he been a disappoinment for us his number are going to be worst after season end than last year but other than that you would love to have Kemp on your team.
"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale
"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo
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Yeah, everyone wants a lazy outfielder with below-average talent
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by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions
You ever watch Matt Kemp play? He’s a dog, or has been this year, I won’t deny, but if the Rockies acquired him tomorrow he’d INSTANTLY become the team’s third best player. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again – if Kemp’s a change-of-scenery candidate, I’d trade just about anybody to make his new scenery Coors Field.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
I guess what I've seen this season is just freshest in my mind
I do kind of wonder how he’d do here.
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Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions
the truly funny part about it was
how out-of-context the remark was. It was midgame banter as he got a knock on our team. I’d’ve said the same about Jamey, and I genuinely like him!
"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale
"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo
"Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug."~Mitch Williams
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Proud Member of the PR Gynocracy
by Rox the Casbah on Aug 21, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
He’s a jerk, though. And a diva.
Yeah, great player, but I don’t want him on my team…
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 10:02 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m kind of reaching my wits end with nice guys who bat .240.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Aug 21, 2010 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions
I've sort of reached my wits end of talented guys who think they're too good to improve
Kemp, as good as he is, isone of those players according to just about everybody who’s ever coached him apparently. I think adding him would help the team’s talent level by quite a bit, but lessen the team’s chances of gelling and becoming a team that’s greater than the sum of its parts.
For me it’s a tough call. We’re obviously not that team right now, either, so why not add a talent like Kemp to make up for it?
Well, unlike the guys I am pretty sure you’re mentioning, Kemp’s actually delivered on that prodigious talent with great years in 08 and 09. He’s chafed under Torre and the abuse from the Dodger fans this year which is why I call him a change-of-scenery talent.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Aug 21, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Not to mention the public abuse from his GM...
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by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
This is why I'm not entirely opposed to the idea.
but you can’t blame his 2010 season entirely on abuse from fans/managers/etc.., he showed up out of shape in the Spring which is why Torre and Bowa and Colletti all chafed, and he seems to be going the Andruw Jones route. It might not be the next franchise he regains his footing with, but the one after that.
I got into a discussion about this in an offseason thread.
There was some ranking that put Kemp ahead of Tulo for young players, which I thought was ridiculous. He gets a lot of credit for being a toolsy center fielder, but his defense isn’t very good in center, and if you put him in a corner spot his bat doesn’t stand out as much. Meanwhile, Tulo’s posting his second consecutive .390 wOBA season and contributes more on defense.
"Toolsy"
Heh…I like that word. It could be applied to other players, in a different context. :)
Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions
IIRC, he was called that because he had lots of athletic ability but not as much baseball experience as some of his peers.
I think he was a multi-sport star, and only switched to baseball exclusively after going pro. People expected him to continue to improve as he gained more experience, but that hasn’t happened.
I'm not sure if that's really D.J.
She seems too sophisticated for some of this stuff. Whoever it is, though, sounds a little bitter and defensive. Methinks thou dost protest too much…
Yeah, we had a good laugh about it when we realized it.
Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions
You know what's funny. I got that number from Vin Scully
whilst watching Dodger and Rockies. Blame Vin..lol
Brad Hawpe - I'm going to miss you most of all. Please don't kill us wherever you play....
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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Blame Vin
Generally a safe bet in my book. I honestly don’t get all the fawning he gets. Respect for seat time maybe? I find him unentertaining and obnoxious.
"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale
"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo
"Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug."~Mitch Williams
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Proud Member of the PR Gynocracy
by Rox the Casbah on Aug 21, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Vin is becoming a little more testy
and a little scatterbrained. But I still like the guy for the most part.
Brad Hawpe - I'm going to miss you most of all. Please don't kill us wherever you play....
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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Senility
Has made a fog-brained mess of me
And now my crankiness you see
Because I now have
Senility…
Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Is he a little more forgetful these days, a tad more repetitive with his anecdotes? Sadly, yes.
But nobody has ever done what he does better than him. Nobody. Listen to the clip I linked below… it’s magnificent storytelling.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Aug 21, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh, he's still good when he's on, no doubt
I’m just very good (usually) at finding the cheap ’n easy joke.
Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions
He hasn't been 'on' since the 90's.
Is it hockey season yet?
BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BEs - abayarde
Paul McCartney Can't Play Piano
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He still says some things now and again
that make me go “Huh…that’s interesting” or “Huh…I did not know that”
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Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Hell, Jack Corrigan says things now and then that make me say “Huh, that’s interesting.”
Is it hockey season yet?
BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BEs - abayarde
Paul McCartney Can't Play Piano
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True
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Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
I like Jack.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 10:34 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Try and find his call of that night a few years back when the Dodgers hit four straight home runs off the Padres and then won the game in the 10th inning. As good as it gets, particularly his sense of the moment to let the roar of the crowd tell the story on Garciaparra’s game winner.
30 seconds later, as the hubbub’s dying down, Scully finally talks again: “I forgot to tell you. The Dodgers are now in first place.”
Maybe it’s just having done play by play before, particularly an entire baseball game by myself. It’s HARD. But not when he’s doing it.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Aug 21, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Vin is becoming a little more testy
and a little scatterbrained. But I still like the guy for the most part.
Brad Hawpe - I'm going to miss you most of all. Please don't kill us wherever you play....
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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Listen to this.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Aug 21, 2010 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
OUR FANS ARE REAL, HAVE JOB
Is it hockey season yet?
BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BEs - abayarde
Paul McCartney Can't Play Piano
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I'm a hologram
Is it hockey season yet?
BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BEs - abayarde
Paul McCartney Can't Play Piano
Burgundy Wave: Nobody's favorite Rapids Blog!
Hey, SDCat can't even claim that
because, you know, holograms at least exist and stuff.
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Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm a non-existent hologram
think about that for a minute
Brad Hawpe - I'm going to miss you most of all. Please don't kill us wherever you play....
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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i'm truly, truly, truly outrageous ;-)
"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale
"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo
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by Rox the Casbah on Aug 21, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions
All Jesus-freak hillbillies
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Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Thank God I’m a country girl!
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 10:28 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
P.S. - Sorry to post and run, but I've got a busy day ahead.
Hope you get a good laugh, and I’ll try to check back later.
"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale
"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo
"Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug."~Mitch Williams
Chief Engineer of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Proud Member of the PR Gynocracy
I am missing.
My first Rox series in PHX in three years. Just can’t get excited about them this weekend. Sort of sad, in a way. At least next season we will be back under the radar and can play the underdog role again, we seem to perform better with low expectations.
Tip: Orton jerseys soon to increase in value, buy now!
So I woke up to some entertainment in my e-mail this morning
Some “DW” character e-mails me with the following regarding this comment:
Well, it’s the 7th
So they’re all leaving
that I made in the game thread from Thursday night’s game….
lol I wonder why are stadium is in a bad location and we still outdrawned your team and even worst we outdrawned your team when you guys made the WS.
I think to myself, “Ah, a loyal Dodgers fan. How cute.” I was going to craft a reply to him, but I decided it wasn’t worth my time to send it and bring myself down to his level. However, it IS worth it to share it with my fellow Rowbots:
Dear DW,
Thank you for your insightful commentary on my most grievous slight. I will refrain from pointing out that Dodger Stadium has a higher capacity than Coors Field, since that is too obvious. I will also not delve into how the Dodgers have been around longer than most of us have been alive, to say nothing of the Rockies, and how this time advantage may or may not have allowed for a fanbase to gain strength (at least between the 3rd and 7th innings). Being an NL West aficionado, I’m sure you’re also aware that the Rockies were terrible for a number of years (and looking close to out of it in 2007) before they had a miracle run just to sniff the playoffs, whereas the Dodgers have been strong for a number of years. However, since the Rockies’ future looks bright and the Dodgers’ future portends a number of mediocre (or worse) seasons given that the McCourt soap opera has made Manny Ramirez look normal, I won’t worry too much. I’m sure one team outdrawing (or outdrawning) the other is the least of anyone’s concerns. I also don’t think that offhanded, smack-talking comments on my own team’s blog are really worth your flattery, but that’s just me.
No, I will just point out that you responded to an offhand comment in a game thread, via my personal e-mail, at 6:30 on a Saturday morning. Thank you for showing me that, while I may not have much of a life, I am far better off than some people in this world. Taking the time to send me a personal e-mail? Seriously? I may make jokes about the Dodgers and their fans, but I have a whole hell of a lot more respect for them than I do for the Giants and anything related to them…It’s never been personal for me with the Dodgers like it is with the Giants. I’ve also said much more hateful things about the Giants, and have never gotten a personal e-mail in response. Sure, my words have been used as bulletin board material over at MCC (just as I’m sure they’ve been used at GLB and TBLA), and that’s fine. That’s how the game works, and I accept it. It’s part of the give and take of being a baseball fan.
But you, DW…you went there. Congratulations: You just did something even a mouth-breathing Giants fan would find bush-league, to say nothing of your fellow Dodger fans (or the mods and members of TBLA, who I generally like a lot). Are you SURE you’re not a closet Giants fan? It’s okay. I won’t judge (well, okay, I will). Be comfortable in your own skin and DO. YOU.
Chew on that for a while as you’re trying to figure out your e-mail’s spell check function, and thanks for the laugh. I needed it.
Love, hugs and kisses,
Paleface Destro
I guess that’s what I get for having my e-mail in my profile…heh.
Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 9:50 AM MDT reply actions
- sissy mouth-breathing ; J
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 9:56 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I figured the "sissy" was a little too cheap 'n easy.
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Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions
‘Outdrawned’? ‘Even worst’? That’s some good stuff.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
There was so much material and comedy potential in so few words.
I wasn’t sure if I’d found the silver-bullet replacement for oil or what.
Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
I wonder if being outdrawned is like
being drowned or drawing down. I know Oxford added some words to the dictionary..maybe we missed these two.
(true story, they added interweb)
Brad Hawpe - I'm going to miss you most of all. Please don't kill us wherever you play....
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English
It’s like an erector set!
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Jason Hammel: Unsung Hero
Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)
by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
On Viagra! what?
Brad Hawpe - I'm going to miss you most of all. Please don't kill us wherever you play....
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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Loss of bone density is a tragic thing
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by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I think I'm experiencing deja vu
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Haha...
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by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Isnt erection and loss of bone density..
An oxymoron?
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by Charlie77 on Aug 21, 2010 12:46 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you used too many big words in the response.
Is it hockey season yet?
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Nah
Because a) I didn’t actually send it, and b) it’s not like we’re talking a Giants fan here. I do give Dodger fans much more credit than that…
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by Paleface Destro on Aug 21, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
From Will Carroll
on Cargo
ltalamacchia has an infected foot … Carlos Gonzalez is having trouble with his knee and has missed a couple games with pain and swelling. It would be a bad way to end such a breakout campaign. The Rockies are playing this down as day-to-day, but those who have seen Gonzalez’s knee tell me it’s not looking good. After banging the wall, the thought was this was just a bruise, but the severe swelling could indicate something like a burst bursa sac..
Just put him on the DL
Didn’t they learn from Hawpe?
I hurt my knee like that..
Playing hs football (Central hs doesn’t believe in grass) and it took a month and several knee drainings before I could run again. I could barely walk for the next week.
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by Charlie77 on Aug 21, 2010 12:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Seems accurate with what were hearing
Knee injuries just suck in general. In baseball, I dislocated my knee to the point where it needed surgery. It wasn’t a fun experience, and I’m not sure whether I can play for my senior year…
How many Matts are there in the organization?
Matt Daley
Matt Belisle
Matt Miller
Matt Reynolds
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You went/are going to law school right?
I seem to remember that from your old blog. I’m applying this fall. Good move? Any advice for someone with mediocre LSAT but good undergrad GPA?
Went.
Hmmm… well, I graduated during a recession, so maybe things will change by the time you graduate. It’s not good right now… and I went to a top 20 law school.
(Though it’s not helping that I graduated last year and still don’t have my law license.)
I’m going to shoot for the highest ranked school that can allow me to graduate with the least debt, and not worry about working for Williams & Connolly. Though that’d be pretty sweet.
That's a good call.
I probably should have made that call, but instead went with “highest ranked school” and ignored the debt part.
One other piece of advice: if you know where you want to practice (geographically, that is), go to law school in that area. It’s a huge deal. So, for example, if you wanted to practice in Denver, going to CU or DU would be your best bet, regardless of ranking.
I’ve never lived in Denver (or west of MN), but am definitely going to apply there. Seems like enough national firms have offices there (Faegre comes to mind) that it’d be easy to relocate if necessary.
Thanks for the pep talk. The blog at RCSports is nice work, btw.
Thanks.
A few firms from Denver did interview at my law school (I went to Vanderbilt, btw) but they were mostly the national firms that had offices there, and most only seemed vaguely interested in recruiting at Vanderbilt. There’s kind of a suspicion among Denver law firms that a lot of law students from outside Colorado just want to go there and hit the slopes for a couple of years before moving back to wherever they’re from.
Firms are curiously paranoid
especially when they’re getting the most value out of their young associates: tons of billables, $300+/hour, huge margin on the billing rate vs. hourly wage. It’s pretty similar to Cargo pre-arb.
It’s nice to have people with ties to the community to lure in new clients, but you only need like one out of every five new attorneys to be that person.
I'm not sure that's what it's about
So much as kind of an “old boys” club kind of thing… if you have a law firm where all of the partners went to the same couple of law schools, you’re not really terribly interested in recruiting associates from other law schools, particularly since hiring a bunch of new associates from your old law school makes your law school look good.
Matt Wilhite
Matt Repec
Matt Saunders
Matt Crocker
Possibly Matt Baugh, but he may have been released/retired
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 21, 2010 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Bah!
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lol
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 21, 2010 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions
I mentioned this to Matt Muzia recently...
… our bullpen next year could conceivably be 3/7ths Matts in Belisle, Daley and Reynolds.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 21, 2010 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
So maybe the nickname could be
we are going to the Matt. You know wrestling, duking it out…
yeah…not so much…..I’ll keep thinking…..
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This is better
than when we had a whole bunch of guys named Todd on the team.
Reminded me of the George Carlin bit “And I’m really getting sick of guys named Todd!”
Jeff Francis
“Francis, provided he can show he’s healthy, has pitched like he’s worth every penny of his $7 million option.”
What brand of TV do you watch? Mine isn’t showing me what you’re seeing.
I'll take a stab at it.
By WAR, Francis is our third most valuable pitcher, despite missing a good portion of the season. His FIP is solid at 3.51, and the other numbers don’t make it look like a fluke. While he’s not the best Rockies starter, he’s worth that much money.
More traditional stats show he's worth it too,
the 3.34 ERA since the ASB is very good, it looks like Jeff47’s TV hasn’t been working since about that time.
Aside from the three starts right before the ASB, Francis has been one of our most consistent starters.
Yeah, I think he's definitely worth the money.
The area where I’m still uncertain is the DLR vs. Francis debate. If there’s only enough money to sign one of them, DLR seems to have greater potential. However, Jeff would be cheaper and allow the team to upgrade elsewhere, like 2B. I see lots of arguments on both sides.
Traditionally, low strikeout pitchers with a recent history of severe injuries, and without a long track record of success behind them, don’t get paid $7M/year.
However, if the difference is risking him signing elsewhere but resigning with the Rockies for $5M, or just pick up the $7M option, I’d say just pick up the option. That’s not a lot of money on a one year deal, and it’s unlikely that he’ll make less than $4-5M/year in free agency. Say he has a good year and walks off into FA as a Type B. In all, that’ll be worth a lot more than $7M
One severe injury, and he's showing a decent recovery from it.
Over the last three calendar years, his FIP is 4.22, just ahead of Aaron Cook, actually. The guys around him vary in their salaries from Cook, Kyle Loshe ($8.875 million) and Randy Wolf ($9.75 million), who would be on the overpaid side of the scale, to Kevin Correia and Brett Myers, who are bargains (value wise) at $3.6 million and $5.1 million.
The Rockies are banking that because of his shoulder, they’ll get him at a bargain too, but his option is valued just about right. I wouldn’t take that risk, personally.
Different path, same conclusion.
One severe injury and lingering shoulder concerns is probably the same as “recent history of severe injuries” to most GMs.
It’s an interesting scatter of contracts for people in the same FIP range as Francis, but Loshe signed his contract before the market cratered (if he hadn’t signed so early, he probably would have forfeited $8-9M by December ‘08. Cook’s extension is a similar story.
Wolf is an example of what you don’t want to happen with Francis, and Correia and Myers are good examples of what you’d hope Francis could be.
All in all, $7M for one year isn’t bad.
I could see a 2/8-10 contract for Francis from the Rockies easily.
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I could see 2/$11 million contract from the Dodgers easily
A 2/$12 million contract from the Phillies and a 3/$15 million contract from the Royals.
Now it’s the Rockies turn again…
It'll be interesting to see what happens with someone like Pavano.
I’d think the market for him and Francis would be similar. Lee —> Lilly —> Vasquez —> JDLR —> Francis —> Pavano —> Correia —> Garland —> Millwood.
Personally, I'd switch Pavano up before Vasquez
I know Pavano’s past in free agency sucks, but the past two years he’s been really valuable for the Twins.
Yeah, I just looked at his numbers this year.
No idea they were that good.
Lee —> Lilly —> Vasquez —> Pavano —> JDLR —> Francis —> Correia —> Garland —> Millwood?
Why is Mat Latos not in this equation?
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Oh...okay...wasn't sure about that..thanks!
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Especially given what Buster Olney just put in a tweet about Vasquez
The Yankees have a big problem: Javier Vazquez’s stuff has disappeared. He was throwing 86-88 mph fastballs, and hitters are teeing off.
So wait
It’s not ZOMG THE AL IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE NL!
People will blame in on Yankee Stadium somehow
even though he pitches fine there, and he’ll sign with an AL Central or West team for $10M/year.
I could see that...
It will be interesting to see what happens with SD in regards to their two key parts leaving. Also, Tim Hudson goes high on the list, just behind Lee, which ought to help the Rockies in signing their two FA’s.
I don’t know if Lilly’s that high a target for most teams because of his age, I could see him being the bargain pick-up if JDLR/Francis fall through.
I forgot what I was watching
but it was an ESPN broadcast, and the Lilly hype-machine was in full gear. If he continues to pitch well for Dodgers, he’ll get 3/$24M at a min.
I don’t think there’s much difference between Lilly and Francis, honestly, except that I’d prefer Francis bc of the GB rate.
Hudson signed an extension through 2012 (’13 option).
I forgot about/missed the Hudson extension
and there’s one of the shortfalls of using Cot’s 2011 free agents page. Oops.
That will be good for our prospects of resigning both Francis and JDLR if Lilly could become this year’s Suppan/Wolf type
The royals have pretty well c ommited to youth ala the Rox from 2003
I don’t see them signing a pitcher witha history of an injury for 3 years
No team outside of Miami ever commits totally to youth.
They all like their veteran pieces to mentor/help things along. Plus, the Royals rank near the bottom of the AL in pitching, they know they need help in that category still. I was just using them as a for instance, but I’m guessing they make a play at a starting pitcher or two this winter, especially if they sense they can get them at a relative bargain.
Personally, I'd like to see the Rockies
look at a 2 year extension option like Betancourt before free agency begins, and if it doesn’t work out, take the club option. There’s no reason to let Francis see free agency at all, and his agents probably know we hold the leverage in Francis’s situation, especially since I think we wants to be back,
Ideally, I would love to see Rogers be the long man/6th starter with both DLR and Francis back, and Cook traded for pebbles and get the other team to take on a couple million dollars.
the rotation being
Ubaldo/Francis/Chacin/DLR/Hammel
I would hope for this too...
but if I was his agent, I don’t know if I’d advise him to sign anything with that option and FA pending.
disagree
With his shoulder, security > money, and the Rockies are willing to offer both.
That's assuming an unhealthy shoulder.
I guess what I’m saying is that if I’m his agent and I know that the shoulder’s balky, that teams will shy away after seeing current MRI’s, I definitely sign something with the Rockies. If I know that the shoulder’s fine, and teams will find it fine, then I probably take my chances on the market unless the player really wants to stay.
That's true
I forget how much research a team probably puts into a player, especially an injury prone one, before signing them. Still, it still must take a large effect into the kind of contract he receives; a highly doubt a team will give him 3 years, though if the Rockies did sign him to a 2 year deal, I could see them giving an option year.
I agree with this,
I think most teams that would want him would offer him 2 years, but that leaves the door open for that one risk taking GM to throw in a third to make their bid stand out.
Francis has certainly exceeded whatever expectations I, or most other reasonable people, had for him
coming into the season. All things considered, he’s been terrific. Go look at the stats and try to prove me wrong.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 21, 2010 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Francis >>>> Webb
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by Charlie77 on Aug 21, 2010 1:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Rockies Need More O's
If you haven’t noticed, the six guys battling it out for the NL batting title all have a prominent “O” in their names: Votto, Prado, Polanco, Cargo, Pujols, and if he gets enough at bats, Tulo. I think O’Dowd ought to work out a trade for Cano.
In the game threads it does feel like Uh-oh is pitching a lot..
Oh-no is often seen throwing late in games.
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by Charlie77 on Aug 21, 2010 12:44 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't forget about Olivo
Oh wait…
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 21, 2010 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions
The only I have to about this part of today's RP is
O-Boy
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I'd like to see less O's
AS in O for 4 with runners in scoreing position. O for three leading off an inning……
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NN – The rox are done this year and starting a rebuilding project. They have young 2Bs, OFs, a shaky 3B/1B and C situation next year and possibly 3/5ths of the rotation wont be back.
PP – If JDLR is back and with Chacin/Rogers in rotation the starters will be good. Bullpen should be good next year especially with Bucky and Weathers a year stronger from recovery. The offense will be better with a faster group at the top of the order. There should be less injuries next year as well.
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by Charlie77 on Aug 21, 2010 12:58 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
So, one of the analysts at Yahoo Sports
Says Josh Hamiliton should be the AL MVP because he’s on a winning team. Agree or disagree that only players on winning teams or playoff bound teams should be the MVP? discuss
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Players on winning teams should get weighted consideration, at a ratio of 1.3 or 1.5. Something like that. Unless you’re Bonds or Pujolsian, if everything else is equal, doing that equal thing is more important on a winning team.
Is there really a weighted system here though?
I thought it was the BBWAA that votes..I’m a little confused …
Supposing the Rockies don’t make the playoffs, and somehow CarGo recovers from his knee injury…rejoins the team and puts up redonkulous numbers that leapfrog him stats wise over the others. Should he not win the MVP?
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Not this year for Cargo
Even if he puts up ridiculous numbers in September (after a miracle recovery), he still won’t have the numbers of Pujols or Votto or Ryan Zimmerman. There’s even a case for Andres Torres over Cargo this year (not that Cargo won’t be the far better player over the long haul).
Zimmerman, in my opinion, should be the NL MVP.
Anyway, the BBWAA does vote on the MVP awards, but there is no weighted system. I’m just saying that I would scale it as such:
Pujolsian —> Great hitter/defender on contender —> great hitter/defender on non-contender —> great hitter/average defender on contender —> great hitter/average defender on non-contender.
Within those distinctions, I would scale it based on positional difficulty. So, if Votto and Zimmerman had identical hitting lines, I’d give it to Zimmerman.
Zimmerman?
To be fair, he’s third in WAR among NL hitters behind Adrian Gonzalez and Aubrey Huff. But it would never happen.
Hamilton is 7th among AL hitters in WAR; first is Robinson Cano (who, ahem, also plays for a winning team.)
Whose WAR are you using, Rally? He’s first among NL hitters on Fangraphs, and leads all third baseman (and NL fielders) in UZR/150. Other metrics rate his defense as being very high. Huff has been great in LF and 1B, below average in RF, but Zimmerman’s defense overcomes the minimal gap (according to Rally WAR) between their bats.
In other words, I’m putting what Zimmerman is doing this year into the Pujolsian category (which, with a 7+ WAR season, will be true) and above Gonzalez’s great hitting/great fielding on a contender package.
Seems as though the difference is in the weight given to defense
Much more heavily on fangraphs.
Were you saying you think there’s no way Zimmerman will win, or something else?
I don't think there's a way Zimmerman will win
Seeing how the voters for the MVP award place so much value on your team’s record, I don’t think Zimmerman can win it just because the Nationals aren’t any good.
I really think this is a year for a pitcher to win the MVP award.
That would certainly please ESPN
with their “year of the pitcher” meme. As far as peripherals go, I think there are plenty of candidates, but Wainwright or Halladay need to really ramp up the Ws to make themselves viable candidates in the eyes of BBWAA writers. Ubaldo would need a tremendous September (with a couple of CGs) to move from Cy Young contender to MVP contender.
I think I'd vote Zimmerman/Cano
I think the actual results will be Gonzalez/Hamilton.
I’m guessing that the Padres surprise year nets Adrian the MVP.
I hope that no one talks about Gonzalez
and just yammers on about their transcendent pitching this year. Jerry Hairston has had a HUGE impact on that team.
Cano is a good call. Hamilton’s story is just too hard to overcome, though. There’ll be a movie in the works immediately.
I remember when “The Rookie” came out. Huge disappointment that it was made by Disney. If it could have been a PG-13 or R movie, it would have been a fantastic tale. I’m hoping Hamilton’s story is an R movie.
yeah, it depends on if they want to go gritty but fun realism
ala Bull Durham and try to snag critical honors/awards or sappy sentimentalism and snag some box office. I agree, it will likely make a much better film if it’s done with an edge.
The sad part about this
is that “critical honors/awards” and “box office success” are often not related to one another.
Pretty often directly opposed to each other.
The nice thing about Hamilton’s story is that it could be gritty/real, and unlike the Facebook movie, they wouldn’t have to make up the part about blowing coke off girls’ body parts.
The Rookie and R Story?
Come on the guy sold it to Disney in part because he wanted it to be a family movie. I enjoyed the movie thoroughly, and to be hoenst, I think Bull Durham is the single most overhyped movie in the sports category.
Actually, they already made a movie about HAmilton – its called the Natural.
by Doctor Christopher on Aug 21, 2010 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmm, see I would think Brad Hawpe was more of "The Natural"
considering he actually broke a light in a stadium a la “The Natural” while he was in high school.
Before everyone jumps on me, this will be the only association I will ever make between Roy Hobbs and Brad Hawpe.
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Underachieving....ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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to keep with the O theme from above
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JFK
O HAPPY DAY!
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that's the way Ringolsby used to say his name back in the day
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by Hollidayrain on Aug 21, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
nice catch
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
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Rangers interested in Hawpe
I’d like to see that happen. Imagine the Rangers had Hawpe at first base all year, with the ability to fill in at RF when necessary? The Angels would’ve been dusting off the golf clubs a month ago.
I really hope he catches on with a good team. I couldn't help but think that maybe last night and in the last game with
the Dodgers…that his bat off might have come in handy…..ah pues…..
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Oh please...at least he would have struck out swinging....
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Nice...thanks...
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bahahahahahaha
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by Hollidayrain on Aug 21, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
See I would have woken up and said....
“yippee!”…Now my dream about Tulo dying in LF that was definitely an “uhhhhh…WTF…I better check the news ASAP!”
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I still believe...
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by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh damnnnn that sucks..
I won’t tell you about dreams that I’ve had that have come true…
I’m choosing to believe my Tulo dream will not….
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But then..
How else will you ever have little mullet-haired babies?
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by Charlie77 on Aug 21, 2010 5:19 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
What you want me to have zombiemulletbabies?
Did you not know that Tulo died in my dream?
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I have a random question.
Is “WhatWouldSpilly” really truly Ryan Spilborghs Twitter page? It has me confused….
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No.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 21, 2010 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Good afternoon, all.
I had a dream about Purple Row last night.
Or rather, a NIGHTMARE! D:
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Did the site get deleted?
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 21, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
No.
I was…. a troll.
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!!!!!
Noooooooooo!
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 21, 2010 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I think it might of been unintentional
like I made a stupid comment or something
and I felt horrible, and I was crying!
I blame Alan Thicke
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OH NOES!
I’m pretty sure I had a dream about PR too, but can’t remember what it was about.
I still believe...
This is R year!
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Drinking? :P
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heh
Why in the world would it be about that?
I still believe...
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by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 3:29 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
oh wait...
that wasn’t a dream…it really happened! ; J
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 3:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
you leave Alan
out of this Shiva.
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I was told I have the mentality of a 2nd grader
because of Alan.
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I can't remember what I said, actually
but everyone was MAAAAAAD.
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Even me? : )
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 3:31 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't remember :(
I just know that I was dogpiled by comments of ANGER!
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Are you going to provide any details?
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See above :)
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PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
Last night was just pathetic once again from Huston Street.
Teams in the NL have figured him out.
10 days until my first Rockies game!
I disagree that they have figured him out. He's, apparently. stopped challenging
them with his fastball. If anything, umpires have stopped giving him the nibbly calls…..rightly or wrongly…:)
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If you are pitching like Huston is now,
the umps are less likely to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 4:46 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly. That's why I said rightly or wrongly :)
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I dont think its a matter of "figuring" Street out,
Its the same case with all the leauge, I think its just a matter of Street having lost confidence in certain of his pitch types in certain locations, especially at strike 2, obviously.
The stuff is there, Street just needs to get it together.
Oh dear, here I am defending him.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 4:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you decided to not break up with him just yet.
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*sigh*
Yes. I hope he will change, and I’m gonna give him a chance : J
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 4:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
And the strategy they figured out is:
let him walk a couple of guys then wait until you’re down to your last strike, then he’ll groove a pitch you can clobber?
Seems like if he was “figured out” there wouldn’t be so many 0-2 counts. Street’s the one that needs to figure out how to throw strikes ear[y and get his put-away pitch back again.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." ~Earl Weaver
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Well, looky there...Cubs are leading
the Braves 5-1 in the top of the 8th. Aaand…the Braves have the bases loaded with 2 out
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WHY are you rooting against the Braves?
They’re the only hope to keep the Phightin’s completely out of the playoffs!
Why do you think I'm rooting against the Braves?
I was merely pointing out that the Cubs were leading…..which seemed odd to me…..
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Well, holy crap, the Cubs beat the Braves....that's a bit of a shocker!
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ohhh, my mistake...
…and I’m not surprised that once Marmol came in the save was a given :-(
They’re only bad when their starters are…
Until the Game Wrap is posted.
Then that’ll be MY home sweet home for discussion ; J
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 21, 2010 5:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
OT: But, regular Fox was running an ad for
Broncos v Steelers next Sunday night. They’re tag line was
Brady Quinn v Tim Tebow for QB
poor Kyle Orton :(
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Indeed...but I'm pretty sure they did not...:)
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