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Rowbot Radio - Episode 25 (Special Guest Co-Host Russ Oates)

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Welcome to Episode 25 of Rowbot Radio! On this edition, Supreme Overlord Benevolent Dictator Russ and I discuss Jim Tracy's controversial decision to leave Ubaldo JImenez in earlier in the week, as well as some discussion about Matt Miller, Cole Garner and a couple other potential contract purchases next month.

Andrew will be back next week. Download link below, flash player after the jump.

Rowbot Radio - Episode 25

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All errors of fact

are mine and mine alone.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 6:45 AM MDT reply actions  

This partially referring

to the start time for Wednesday’s game. It was moved up an hour to 7:15 p.m. MT.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Small constructive criticism ..

Russ/Francis its ok to talk more. Greg was dyin’ out there a few times. Just don’t go on and on about sim leagues.

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 12:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sim leagues?

First time, Charlie, first time.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love listening to Andrew..

but when he goes on and on about his sim leagues I roll my eyes.

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

He's new to this.

Don’t blame him :)

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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 30, 2010 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey, hey.

I could have talked more, but then I would have talked non-stop for 40 minutes on site decorum and then have spoiled my history-laden post that’s coming out soon.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Im so stoked to see this..

Monday morning pods are hard to find.

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 7:15 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Has anyone ever notices???

Is it just me or does Russ sort of sound like Jeff Francis?

What if the hokey pokey is what it is all about after all????

by FlyAway on Aug 30, 2010 8:49 AM MDT reply actions  

What are you talking aboot, eh?

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Truth be told,

I’m also Jeff Francis.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I knew it....

My first hint was I have never heard you and Jeff talk at the same time….

What if the hokey pokey is what it is all about after all????

by FlyAway on Aug 30, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

wait a sec...

If you’re Jeff Francis, and you’re also me, and if I’ve also had a crush on Jeff Francis…

o_O

… well, this is awkward.

by Rox Girl on Aug 30, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Multiple personalities.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

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by SDcat09 on Aug 30, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Some points I'd like to make..

Nice pod guys.

Ubaldo should’ve been rested more in August to protect him during the stretch run. He’s needed in Sept and Oct not July-Aug. Good point by Greg that its the mgrs responsibility to protect the pitcher.

Sept callups- Miller, Mckenry, Nelson and Blackmon are the guys I want to see. Also this negative talk about Matt Miller is driving me crazy. The Guy has crazy good splits and has hit at every level. Its wrong to compare him with Seth Smith even though they were drafted the same year. Seth is left-handed and was drafted higher out of a major college. Remember he was a late Sept 07 callup who hit his way onto the world series team. Matt has been blocked and deserves a shot. And the Rockies need a RH bat.

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 8:59 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Greg and I both said

Miller deserves a shot, but that he has no long-term future with the club.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 30, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Miller's not a bad fifth OF

But he’s not a better hitter or fielder than Spilborghs. It’s sort of hard to convey that his MLB future is on some team’s bench and that he’s not exactly an upgrade to what the Rockies currently have without sounding negative.

Just making it to the MLB skill level is a tremendous accomplishment.

by Rox Girl on Aug 30, 2010 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

btw, why all this negative talk on Cole Garner?

He’s been ripping it up for CS, has as good a batting profile as Miller and is two years younger. I really don’t understand why you’re so harsh on him.

And yes, I realize you never actually said anything about Garner, I’m just trying to make a point about what you interpret as negativity towards Miller here.

by Rox Girl on Aug 30, 2010 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Im just disappointed a player like Miller wasnt given a better shot..

When the club has a clear need for a RH bat. Miller will fall into the same trap Jayson Nix did, where he has to produce of else. Miller seems to be regarded in the same way EYJ was. Now Eyj has shown the team can use his skill set. Which btw I think the speed ey provides along with Dex at the top of the lineup will help with the road offense, a point Greg and Russ touched on in the pod.

I don’t have a problem with Cole. He’s younger has more power and is a switch hitter. I just believe Miller deserves a shot and his splits are a little better and less susceptible to matchup problems.

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 9:40 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Garner's a right hand bat. They experimented with him switch hitting, but he dropped it.

There’s a marginal improvement w/ Miller in his ability to hit for contact against RHP’s, but it’s not enough to make up for the advantages Garner has in just about every other category, including OF defense.

by Rox Girl on Aug 30, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Blackmon is not likely to get a call.

He’s not even Rule 5 Eligible this year.

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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 30, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Do sept callups start their clock?

I thought it didn’t. I would like to see Blackmon and Weathers get a shot. They both deserve it.

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 11:53 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

It starts the service time clock.

Weathers will be purchased this December, but he won’t get a callup. We’re not going to see Blackmon purchased until next year or directly after.

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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 30, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ahh..thank you

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually what Tracy said about kicking himself

was that he would have been kicking himself either way, which means he could not have made a correct decision on Jimenez pitching the 8th, it could have been wrong either way, so in a sense he was defelcting all the blame. No one wants Tracy to take the blame and “fall on the sword” for every loss, but once in awhile to admit some fault would be nice. He’s right that he could have been wrong either way, but I think he should take the blame for not recognizing his pitcher was tired and making the best baseball decision to take the guy out and use a PHer in the 7th, or at least recognize it prior to allowing him to face Ethier, who owns him. He can say all day long that he asked Jimenez and Ubaldo said he was fine, but its not Ubaldo’s job to determine if he is ok to keep pitching, the player will almost always say yes, he’s a competitor, of course he thinks he can. It just seems like to me we are really minimizing what effect a manager has on the outcome of the game. If its so small, why even worry about who to hire, just hire some clown off the streets and pay him nothing to do it.

I do believe the players have a much larger effect on the outcome of the game than the manager, but every now and again a managerial decision does play a significant factor in the outcome of the game and the decision w/ Jimenez was one of those times, IMHO. Having said this, I am not ready to can Tracy over this decision, but I do believe it was a poor one and the players might respect him taking some of the blame.

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by smokinRox on Aug 30, 2010 10:42 AM MDT reply actions  

Ubaldo was pulled early in his previous start..

And I think that weighed on Tracy’s mind since the pen blew up. So this time he gave Ubaldo a longer leash and both Ubaldo and the pen blew up. Its like when you’re playing Risk and all the pieces are in place to take over Kamchatka but the dice keeps coming up snake eyes.

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by Charlie77 on Aug 30, 2010 11:57 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

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