Tuesday Rockpile: Monday's Game = Formula for Success?
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 31, 2010 7:46 AM MDT
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PrintI will not call the Rockies unlucky this season, as I am quite certain every fanbase believes their team has been treated poorly by Lady Luck. I will say that the Rockies needed three things to revive their playoff hopes - to play much better, help in the standings against the teams ahead of them, and most certainly a little bit of good fortunate in close games.
I think it is safe to say the Rockies have had a clean sweep of that trio, punctuated by Monday night. On a night where the Padres, Cardinals and Phillies had already lost, Colorado was in danger of losing 1-0 in San Francisco last night. Instead, they won their first road game in 2010 when trailing after eight innings.
The pivotal game became Yahoo! Sports' Game of the Night, and Keith Law congratulated the Rockies on a big win. And it was all thanks to one ridiculously quirky flyout triple.
But truth be told, if the Rockies were to make a charge, these are exactly the types of games Colorado needed to put in the W column. They cannot afford to let nine-run comebacks turn into losses, as the Giants have. They have to squeak out wins on the road in games they may or may not deserve to win. Put a big black check mark next to the luck column.
The Rockies are 7-1 in their last eight games, 2-0 on the road (despite scoring 3 runs). Put a check mark next to in the "playing well" column.
Lastly is the "Help" column, and more than any 8-game stretch this season, the Rockies have gotten help on this 8-game streak. Get ready for another check mark. Despite playing vastly inferior teams (Arizona, Pittsburgh, Houston, etc), not a single one of the teams the Rockies are chasing have a winning record since August 22:
| Team | Record | Gm Made Up | GB |
| Padres | 3-5 | 4.0 | 7.0 |
| Giants | 3-5 | 4.0 | 2.0 |
| Cardinals | 3-6 | 4.5 | 0.5 |
| Phillies | 4-5 | 3.5 | 3.5 |
| Braves | 4-4 | 3.0 | 6.5 |
That is a lot of ground made up for eight days, but really, let's not get too excited yet. The last eight days have been a perfect combination of dozens of outcomes that simply won't be repeated again. As it is, the Rockies have a 12.55% 15.95% chance of making the post-season. That is a vast improvement from August 22 (in fact, no team improved their odds more since August 24), but there is still an steep uphill climb in the final 32 games. At least the Rockies have given their fans something to watch going into September. After all the injuries and that brutal 2-9 road trip after the All-Star Break, that is all we can ask for.
Tulo News
Rockies' Tulowitzki skips start vs. Giants - The Denver Post
Tulowitzki took batting practice Monday but did not field any groundballs. He hopes to play tonight, though the longer he talked it sounded like Wednesday was more realistic. - Troy E. Renck
Some news in case you missed it yesterday afternoon/evening:
Rockies swap Chacin, Cook in upcoming starts | Inside the Colorado Rockies
This is most certainly a positive development, especially considering Cook's career lines against the Phillies and Padres. That sets up the pitching matchups the rest of the week as Rogers/Bumgarner, Jimenez/Lincecum, Chacin/Blanton, Cook/Garland, Hammel/Richard, De la Rosa/LeBlanc. Even on the road for 5 of those 6, each one of those match-ups is winnable, making Rox Girl's request of a 5-2 week possible.
Rockies' McGregor died from rare virus - The Denver Post - The disease is known at viral myocarditis, which is a virus that attacks the heart and is incredibly rare. According to this website, the "incidence of cardiovascular involvement after enteroviral infection is 1-4%." Moreover, full recovery (when the disease is caught, which it was not with McGregor) runs over 50%. Those are long odds; I'll let you interpret that as you may.
Rockies' Barmes carries burden for cancer-stricken father - The Denver Post - Onto another sad story. Clint Barmes' bereavement was to visit his father, who was diagnosed with Stage 4 lung cancer that has spread to his bones on June 15. And we wondered why Barmes' second half decline was more dramatic than usual.
CarGo's big week nets NL honor | ColoradoRockies.com: News
Fantasy Baseball: Who Is Your #1 Pick in 2011 Drafts? - FakeTeams - Carlos Gonzalez is currently third in the poll, trailing Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera, beating Joey Votto.
Feature Links:
Twitter / Kevin Goldstein: Sleeper Alert: The prospect guru lauds the Rockies' 2010 8th round pick Corey Dickerson as a sleeper prospect.
A digital salute to pitch grips - Mike Fast at The Hardball Times attempts to create a shorthand for accurately illustrating the pitch grips MLB pitchers use. The link is worth it for its geometry nerdiness, but it is a must see if you have never seen Adam Wainwright's curveball grip.
BtB Power Rankings: Week 21 -- Entering the stretch run - Beyond the Box Score - BtB's intensely statistical Power Rankings from Saturday evening had the Rockies 10th in MLB, ahead of the Reds, Giants, Dodgers and Phillies. The Rockies have gone 3-0 since that was published.
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"As it is, the Rockies have a 12.55% chance of making the post-season."
Actually, our chances are up to 15.94%. You were referring to the “7 day change” column.
16% is very nearly a 1-in-6 chance. I’m liking these odds…
not as punny as SDcat00
I feel like a trainwreck
There are probably more errors than that. Though the fact that such an error is even probable is a testament to how much the Rockies have returned from the dead in the last week. We’re still 7th in a 16 team league, but it’s…possible
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 31, 2010 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions
You had lots of good links today though
I really enjoyed the one about pitch grips
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Don’t say trainwreck : )
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 11:59 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Trainwre..............
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Since I have stopped following the team because of moving and vacation, they are 7-1, huh…I guess we can consider my hypothesis correct. I am bad for Rockies baseball.
/throws SDcat09 under bus
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by Muzia on Aug 31, 2010 8:01 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
maybe it was your prior place that was bad for Rockies baseball
The demon Bruce Bochy hid a Giants or Padres sock in there or something.
GET OUT!!!!!!!
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions
oh hai
giiiiiiiiiiit out
Yes, I actually do like cricket. I'm Indian.
Rockies are actually zombies. And they're coming to hunt you down just when you think they're buried.
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by Hollidayrain on Aug 31, 2010 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions
How did Asheville do?
/checks to see if Pebble report is up yet…
How did Asheville do?
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions
I've quit playing the prediction game for the same reason. And they are what in the last week +? 6-1? Think I'm done with the predicting game.
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by pedalpusher on Aug 31, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I just can't get over how awesome that 9th inning was
I mean Dex was behind 0-2 and just kept hanging around, hanging around, worked a walk, got Sanchez out of the game, brought Cargo to the plate, which led to the adventures of Cody Ross in right field. It all hppened so fast, I had to pinch myself to make sure it wasn’t a dream.
Oh and as usual it all started with a walk. Funny how that always seems to be the case huh?
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 8:23 AM MDT reply actions
I almost gave up on this game in the 7th
but I’m glad I stuck it out, I had to check with the gf to see if that 9th inning actaully happened.
#11
I'd bet money that we don't see Ross in right again tonight.
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Go Rockies.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 8:24 AM MDT reply actions
Funny that all of this winning has occurred after CBS Sports finally stuck a fork in the Rockies--more so, this was the featured topic of the power rankings that day
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I, too, declared the Rockies dead
the Saturday after Huston Street’s terrible blown save in Arizona.
Obviously, I hope I’m made to look like an ass.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions
I declared the Rockies dead but only to remove all expectation so they could start winning :-)
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm with you, when we hit 7 back in the WC, I declared us dead.
Now when I say “the season’s over” or “this team sucks”, it’s strictly for ninja powers.
not as punny as SDcat00
And it has been incredibly effective, so keep doing it!
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Just let us get down a run or two late, you can count on it
Though I got other things to do tonight, prolly won’t even be around….so the team better just go ahead and score 4-5 runs early.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
A zombie has to be dead..
Before they can be risen from the dead. In your defense.
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by Charlie77 on Aug 31, 2010 11:45 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
yes
Yes, I actually do like cricket. I'm Indian.
Rockies are actually zombies. And they're coming to hunt you down just when you think they're buried.
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by Hollidayrain on Aug 31, 2010 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
A road win without Tulo against a good LHP
Highly unusual. I hope it’s an omen of things to come.
Mediocrity sucks
By the way, everybody, you have been warned in the past
to NOT go shitting up McC – or any other blog, for that matter. Unless you’re going there to incite an intelligent baseball-related discussion, stay away.
I rarely, if ever, exercise my authority as a PR staff member. Don’t make me start now.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 8:34 AM MDT reply actions
Woah! Laying the smackdown early today.
MY FACEBOOK STATUS:WAITING AROUND THE CORNER FOR FRANKLIN MORALES
Again
I apologize if my shenanigans cause issue yesterday. I have been in e-mail communication with the mods over there that included an olive branch, and my similar apology.
I have personally worked things out.
The lack of Seth Smith's beard is irrational
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Well done.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions
You know, your comment didn't merit 1% of what was directed back your way
I’m sorry, Bryan, but I don’t see why it’s PR folk who need to be apologizing here, or getting warned. You know how mild Thinkkaman’s comment was.
not as punny as SDcat00
There was some really ugly stuff said on both blogs last night.
Emotions were running high after a big game and we both overreacted.
I think its best if both sides apologize and move on.
It wasn't the comment, it was the timing and context of it.
With that being said, everyone is doing their best to mend what was apparently broken and move on.
Consider my post above as nothing more than advice, fair warning, and closure.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
That's all well and good
I just don’t see why the rudest group of people on the entire internets have to be given special allowances. What’s been called “emotions running high” is actually just standard operating procedure over there.
I’ll shut up now.
not as punny as SDcat00
Its not their "standard operating procedure" at all.
Muzia, ATF, and other opposing fans can go over there and converse quite civilly with them.
Its quite different to go over there and post a taunt (however mild) right after such a gutwrenching loss. Of course they’re not going to take kindly to it. We wouldn’t either.
And really
I thought that they were aware of the Diamondbacks announcing that they were putting in a Humidor at Chase field, thus the reason why I made the joke.
It was really poor game on my part.
The lack of Seth Smith's beard is irrational
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Apparently you have never participated on
an Oakland Raiders message board.
The lack of Seth Smith's beard is irrational
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But how often to we see MCCers here?
I’m sorry, but when an imbroglio comes up, it’s pretty much always from someone here going to another blog to stir something up. Then when the expected/desired reaction occurs, we run back here and say “Look how much better we are.”
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly.
And we wonder why other blogs don’t like us very much.
(Also, fantastic use of the word imbroglio.)
Natalie Imbroglio was one of my favorites.
wait…
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
I see what you did there
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
wasn't Lou Brock traded for Ernie Imbroglio?
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by pedalpusher on Aug 31, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
And if I actually followed the rules
set up here, we would ban user from other sites if they did something similar here.
Guess I need to bare the iron hand.
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The corollary to that is....
Why is it, when PR users go over and visit GasLamp, TBLA, Talking Chop, Federal Baseball, etc., etc., in other words, any other SB Nation blog, and engages in a little friendly banter (without the use of inflammatory language, profanity, personal insults, etc.), everything stays perfectly civilized and friendly?
This is not a PR problem.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm going to share a piece of advice that was once given to me - in an actual real-life, professional working environment -
that I will always cherish and will never forget:
Know your audience.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Same thing happens at MCC
AFish and Muzia don’t have problems over there. I do see the chiding they give AFish whenever they start talking LOLCOORZ and Andrew goes over, they always give “Oh, here comes Andrew Fisher to set us straight.” But it’s never a flame war.
And it’s also never right after a soul crushing loss.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
Same thing happens in real life
it’s one thing to rib with an opposing fan before the game. It’s one thing to taunt and verbally spar during the game. It’s quite another to rub their faces in it after they’ve suffered a heartbreaking loss. You’re already happy, they’re already not. Leave it at that because most assuredly some day the tables will be turned.
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well, in my brief history at MCC
it’s no different at all “to taunt and verbally spar during the game”. Really, if you’re not an MCCer, and you make an appearance in a game thread, and say anything that can be construed at all as anti-Giant, you’re going to get wishes of bodily harm, threats, and the like.
The one time I posted over there was well before the end of a game. And now it’s being couched as an “accidental” banning, but there was nothing accidental about it, at the time, it was more of a case of “we’re banning you because you coming here is putting me in an uncomfortable spot” (I’m paraphrasing here).
But yeah, the parallels to real life are certainly there. Still, the level of “taunt”, if you will, I’ve seen from PR toward the MCC would probably get a drink spilled on you, in real life. The taunts coming back from MCCers would get you stabbed or shot, in a lot of places.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Well past it
Just want to make sure everything’s properly characterized and in proper context yo. ;-)
If there’s one thing I hate, it’s revisionist history.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
McCer's don't generally post here.
And the reason they don’t is because of the strict rules on conduct that are enforced on our site. They don’t like playing by those rules and consider PR namby-pamby…
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Except the rules really aren't enforced here.
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You do enforce the language and personal attack policies by and large.
That’s what I referring to.
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We've been pretty lax about it.
In fact, our own mod swore up above. I’ve been trying to hold people to a better standard over the past few weeks, particularly in regards to the F word.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions
It's appreciated!
Sure it happens here and there but left unchecked great sites like this can quickly become trashed!
agreed
That is why I love this place – for the most part it is a haven against curseword laden posting.
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yeah and beyond the cursing
it’s great to just have a classy bunch. Nothing wrong with debate and intense discussion but when people start to through out personal attacks and such it’s nice that that gets cut off.
this is true...
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I never understood online swearing
For some reason it seems more juvenile when spelled out.
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Yeah that's my bad, but it's about the only word I could think of to describe
what I felt needs to be stopped.
The F word has no place here, though, except for maybe in the heat of an extremely positive moment having to do with our ballclub.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions
The difference is, they don't even have rules over there, much less enforce them
MCC sets a wonderful example to show potential SB Nation venture capital investors.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions
MCC is a good READ when things are going badly for them
just because they get soooooooooooo upset. But I only read and have a good guffaw at their expense. Not participate. It’s fun enough to just read.
That being said. Russ is a great mod/overlord and we all should be thankful he uses such restraint with the likes of us ner-do-well ruffians and layabouts/
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Agreed
with this.
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Agreed x1000
Not that I participate. I was banned for responding after their users wished actual injury to our players last season.
/whatever
/nominates Russ to lead the SB Nation moderators training program
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
I declare Russ to be the host of the most whimsical jig of the season
huzzah to the shop-keep!!
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as far as trolling goes, it certainly was about as tame as you can get
But it WAS trolling, given the timing.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Teasing 4yr olds is never a good idea.
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by Charlie77 on Aug 31, 2010 11:59 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
why not let their mods handle any warnings? Are we to believe they warn their people when they go somewhere and make themselves look foolish? Hell, they call PR a namby-pamby crowd anyway, I doubt they would warn their guys about coming here and stirring the pot a little.
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by rockieprogress on Aug 31, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Look, let's just not give them a reason to.
Although, I fully believe that Grant would do his best to get in the way of people coming here for some pot stirring.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions
I would just like to say that we strongly discourage McCers trolling/trash talking on other sites and if it happens and we don’t see it ourselves (I don’t read PR unless we’re having a series and even then, not really), feel free to let us know in some capacity.
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That's all well and good
It might also be helpful for your users not to return a spitball (e.g. Thinkkaman’s comment last night) with daisy cutters.
victor frankenstein hung out here all game last night, and we conversed perfectly well, and he was perfectly welcome.
Of course, it should be noted he’s banned at MCC, too.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I got a good e-mail from him today
I got a good laugh out of it.
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With all the discussion there has been about it over the many Rockies/Giants series over the past few years, you all are aware of how MCC works and how we respond to certain kinds of comments. As we’ve discussed multiple times, MCC and PR are very different sites and just as I wouldn’t expect you all to react well if I posted here as I do on MCC, you can’t expect us to react to posts like Thnikkaman’s comment the same way you would.
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Serious question.
Why was a humidor comment as reviled as saying, "Your team is horrible, you guys stink, f the giants or something?…this is where I thought the response was far more extreme than the actual comment.
I ask because maybe you can help us gauge the difference and help us avoid some of this in the future. Of course, it does seem that sometimes even saying hello and asking a legitimate question, gets inflammatory in a hurry.
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in general, just about any comment in a losing situation
with a divisional rival will get taken out of proportion. You have to know that from the start. If it’s late in the game, or after a game where the Rockies have just defeated an opponent, saying anything that’s not complimentary to the opponent (great job by Sanchez, he pitched well and deserved a win, etc..,) is seen as trolling.
We had a similar situation with Ray from Fake Teams the other day, saying “Thank you Tracy”. And while PR users didn’t take it to the extreme McC did last night, they did make it clear that the commentary from an opposing fan wasn’t appreciated. Really, it’s best to avoid rival sites late in games we’re winning unless, as I said, you have a genuine compliment to give.
It's more about the timing of the comment than the comment itself
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions
It came off to me and many other members of the site as a taunting “Haha, you lost and we won!” comment. I didn’t realize he was making a reference to Arizona… especially since we’ve had some arguments with PRers in the past on MCC about the humidor at Coors (for the record, I think all humidor whining is tiresome and boring.) I thought it was in part a reference to that whining (on our part!), as well as the gloat/taunt type thing.
I’ve spoken with Thnikkaman about it and he’s since been unbanned.
Rox Girl also said it quite well.
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Semi-serious Attempt at a semi-serious answer
Because it had nothing at all to do with the text of the comment, and everything to do with commenting at all on a site that really isn’t very welcoming of others (for the most part). I mean, it’s impossible not to be welcoming to Muzia. We should send him to negotiate Mideast peace.
It’s like sticking your hand in a jar of peanut butter, only to find out it’s actually a hornet’s nest, and not a jar of peanut butter at all.
Every team’s forum site reflects an upset attitude after a bitter loss, probably more so to a divisional foe. But some sites just seem to engender a greater degree of unhingedness. MCC just happens to be one of those sites. The Red Sawx site is quite possibly similar, though I wouldn’t know.
The above having been said, I have really only visited MCC during series with the Rockies. So my sample size is limited to those threads that take place during Rockies/Giants series. But I’ve noticed a pretty much 100% correlation between a level of vileness in comments over there, that I’ve not witnessed at all on other SB Nation blogs. So to deflect it off as something about the “timing” of a comment, I honestly feel is to not do proper justice to the situation.
Frankly, Rox Girl’s advice is sound. There’s really no point whatsoever in even commenting on MCC. It won’t serve to advance dialogue, and can only result in you getting pissed off.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
you paint with too broad a brush.
McC has a lot more users than the other NL West sites, and just like the proportion of asshats in a big city like Los Angeles or New York might be the same but stand out more just because those cities have so many of them, so too will the bad seeds stick out more on that site.
The second point would be that what you see as vileness will often be a misread of what somebody else sees as an attempt at sarcastic humor. The unfortunate thing is that you’re not the only person that’s misread that, so there really is a bit of 4chan level attraction to the McC site. I think eventually most of the users that really are scum of the earth types get rooted out and banned but I don’t blame their mods for the seeming hypocrisy and taking their sweet time in doing it. I have a much quicker trigger finger with opposing teams’ fans here, too and will sometimes tolerate boorishness from other Rockies fans longer than I should.
I guess part of my problem stems from this...
….what you consider boorishness here on the Row, doesn’t even begin to approach what it takes to rise to that level on MCC. I really have far thicker skin than what is credited for.
And yeah, I’m admittedly a bit sore over the fact that whatever word usage over there got me banned paled (and I’m talking vampire-level pale) compared to the crap tossed in my own direction, despite the fact that I’m known to use far more colorful language (and far more frequently) than anything I post on PR would indicate. And “timing” would be a lame excuse, because it was mid-game. Such that while it’s PR (or PR users) who gets accused of being holier-than-thou, or of being thin-skinned , the mod conduct over there at least appears to indicate the direct opposite.
Really, it sorta parallels the way I feel about those avowed “constitutional conservatives” who actually act anything but, when comes to someone they disagree with trying to exercise the very same rights.
Is that brush broad? Sure. Okay. I won’t argue that. But I take issue with what appears to be PR mods seemingly behaving apologetic to MCC, when so such kowtowing is required or deserved, imo.
not as punny as SDcat00
Just, er, hypothetically
Is there a number of warnings after which you get an automatic ban? I’m, er, asking for a friend.
I get warnings all the time..
And I’m still here.
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by Charlie77 on Aug 31, 2010 11:52 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
No.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Go team.
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show some class, Maria.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
FI2 stop it.
Just stop it.
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sorry, guess i just haven’t had a meat bag in a while.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions
I start all of my days
with a big bag of meat.
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mmmmm....protein.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Bag of meat
and a glass of lard to wash it all down.
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maybe a cup of water on the side for dippin
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
gravy my man.
gravy.
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True story: I will put gravy on pretty much anything.
I find it just makes everything I eat that much more delicious.
Truth to Power!
Gravy is awesome.
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I like Gravy
French Fries, and cheese curds.
I’ve never tried it, but it must be good, but can’t be as good as Deep Fried cheese curds at any midwestern state fare.
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Just French fries with brown gravy
mmmmm
No need to bring cheese curds into things (though cheese curds are good too)
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
french fries
with really good green chili…oh man that is some good stuff.
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Oh...yeah!!
Those are the best kind of chili-cheese fries!!!
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 11:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
indeed!
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Me too
and I was still craving brownies from last night’s game wrap.
This place is going to turn me into Pablo Sandoval…
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Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
hehe
During the game last night, when he was running, I sad something like “think of the cake!”.
No one knew what I was talking about.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 11:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Its not poutine without the curds
The lack of Seth Smith's beard is irrational
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Well, after all, it is one of the basic food groups.
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by pedalpusher on Aug 31, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions
I got your bag of meat right here.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 10:54 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
o_O
PIP you are consistently one of my favorite people here.
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heh
Thanks. And likewise!!
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 11:05 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Morning yall
Im thinking CarGo’s bat would have at least been a double as well
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Big ups to Jorge last night
keeping us in the game when our offense was crappy
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good point
There were several opportunities for big innings from them that never ocurred.
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Yea that game last night was pretty cool
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Quotes from last nights game via Renck
Bruce Bochy on Cago’s broken-bat triple to right field.
That ball just sailed. It got up there and just kept going. It looked like it was right to him too. There isn’t a right fielder that wouldn’t have thought that ball was going to die and it just took off on a wind current or something.
Tracy on Cargo’s hit
When I saw the manner in which he hit it, and where the barrel ended up (at past the pitcher’s mound), it was just shocking.
Cargo on his hit
When I hit the ball, I was ready to apologize to the manager for not getting the job done. Then I started flying around the bases when I saw he wasn’t going to catch it. The ball hit me, then Pablo, then went out. It was crazy. Just crazy. I got lucky.
Tulo on Cargo’s hit
I am the most relieved guy in here. (He was unable to play because of a left groin injury. He’s unsure if he will be able to play Tuesday).
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 9:06 AM MDT reply actions
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CarGo had a different quote to Alanna
similar, but apologizing for not hustling out of the box (which he didn’t do, just stood for a moment). But it was a rare instance where lack of hustle probably helped us, in that he would have been at 3rd easily and not drawn a throw had he busted out of the box. His lack of hustle resulted in the bad throw that gave us the lead. Whaddaya know.
I feel like this is something that could only happen to teams like the Giants, Cubs and Mets
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Who knows if at bats would have been different with CarGo on 3rd
but I’m pretty sure Mora’s fly out would have scored him, anyway.
or spillys triple
but like you said, the at bats would probably have been different
I wish there was some way to find out what would have happened in situations like that
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions
If we can't score Cargo from 3rd with 0 outs
then I suspect we don’t deserve the W.
IOW: He would have scored and we would have won even if he had hustled out of the box and had to stop at third. Not hustling is never good (or excusable) practice.
"I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else" - W. Churchill
This has to make the Giants feel awesome:
The Rockies went 0-for-7 with RISP and won.
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sadly it doesn't quite make me feel awesome.
more relieved.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions
relieved yes.
awesome – not so much.
I’m sure the folks over at MCC love this stat.
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I'm sure you're right
personally, I’m just glad somebody else gets to feel crappy over a Rockies 0-7 RISP outing on the road for a change.
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
facing a halfway decent pitcher in the first game of a road trip
Ill take a win anyway we can get it. The bats will come around, just in time for us to go back to Coors Thursday
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 31, 2010 9:16 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
That loss from the Giants last night was really a classic late season Giant loss
They seem to find a way to rip their fan’s hearts out every year.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
This is true.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
It can be classified as a lucky, but nonetheless satisfying win.
We need to do better if we expect more of those. Sanchez was in a good place yesterday.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I still don't feel like we made him work as hard as we could have
We could have run his pitch count higher and shortened up some swings. The base running errors killed me. When a pitcher is on like that you CAN’T give him any additional outs.
We didn't.
This goes back to that “fans look within” phenomenon I’ve been noticing. I wasn’t trying to excuse the offense. I was just pointing out that we must always remember that in order for a team to fail offensively, the opposing pitcher has to be doing something right too.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Of course they can.
I would make the argument, however, that they don’t do it every AB. Credit has to be given to an opposing p[pitcher in some respect, just as when one of our pitchers does well, we have to acknowledge some amount of failure from the opponent offense. It goes both ways. Fans of a team generally seem to have the intent to look within first; we didn’t score runs, so that’s our offense’s fault. It is, but not entirely. Likewise, fans seem to give their pitchers or offense full credit for doing something right, forgetting on occasion that the other team had to do something wrong. All MLB pitchers are capable of putting together a good pitching performance. Since it’s impossibly problematic to try and “assign” value to each side, all that I feel comfortable acknowledging is that both teams are responsible for the outcome of the game.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Sure, I agree.
My only point is that last night wasn’t one of those nights where the opposing pitcher was completely dominant, although very close. I think with Sanchez the approach could have been better to force him to make a mistake. We gave him too many strikes and too many outs.
There seems to be some relationship here with Bayes' theorem.
We can’t measure the outcome of an at bat independent of the batter or the pitcher. The event was influenced by both. I’m not sure how to put this formally though.
To a degree yes
That’s why the wOBA formula actually gives a small amount of credit for reaching on an error
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 1, 2010 7:58 AM MDT up reply actions
I was so jazzed about that win last night that I didn't get ot bed until like 2:00.
And I had to get up at 6 for classes.
I hope the Rockies win in a much more relaxing fashion tonight. Though I’m a bit worried that the Giants’ hitters will be able to pound the heck out of Esmil’s fastball.
Somebody just needs to tell Esmil that he's coming on in long relief.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
True. Especially against the Giants.
Just tell him its the 9th inning and we need him to keep the game going.
If that had happened at Coors Field
the MCC crowd would’ve been blaming the humidor. What are they going to blame it on now?
A corked bat? well, go pick it up and check…
The Rockies left an unhumidified ball out there when Betancourt went to the dugout? nope.
Divine intervention? the angel in the OF is 400 miles south…
They have to blame something because they have the biggest inferiority complex in all of baseball.
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
I'm pretty sure they're blaming Cody Ross
for navigating in right field about as well as Magellan.
(Note: This was a joke originally made by a poster at MCC. Shoemaker does not take credit for this joke.)
They're blaming
Bochy from what I read. They believe that Wilson should’ve started the inning.
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Aug 31, 2010 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, Bochy and Ross are who I've seen getting burned in effigy over there.
But then, blaming Bochy is their standing operating procedure.
And people say we’re hard on Tracy here.
what's interesting
is that Bochy did the same thing Tracey did with Ubaldo against the Dodgers. I think the innings are a little different, but the loss to the Dodgers had me wondering why Tracey ran Ubaldo to the plate, then next inning Ubaldo let the first three reach, scoring a run… and then the GS off of Beilise….
He shouldn't have taken Sanchez out!
He owned Cargo all night.
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
IMHO either you don’t let Sanchez start the inning or you let him lose the game. Personally I don’t think either Sanchez or Wilson should have been in there. Wilson had just thrown 30 pitches the day before.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
This (well, the Sanchez bit)
Sounds like your bullpen has also been overworked and short lately, so not sure Bochy actually had a better option in that spot, other than letting Sanchez face CarGo (because he had owned him all night).
To be fair, he’d also owned Dex all night, up until he got to 0-2 on that AB.
But the Sanchez on the mound didn’t lose the game. The Sanchez in the infield did. That, and the Rockies’ defense. Though JDLR was, for the most part, really good last night, Sanchez did outpitch him.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
The way JDLR was pitching last night the key for the Rockies was to get to that Giant bullpen
The first six games of the homestand for the Giants against the Reds and D’Backs saw an insame amount of offense and the bullpen had not only gotten knocked around but was also spent. (Wilson had to get a five out save on Sunday)
Sanchez almost gave the Giants exactly what they needed and even in the loss he still helped their bullpen situation. (Although Wilson must be out of gas by now)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Scoring a single run didn't help much either.
Also, what is this ‘defense’ of which you speak? Giants have 11 errors in 5 days. Where can we find some of this fabled ‘defense’?
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Well Sanchez was very good at not making errors until a few days ago
He hadn’t made an error all year long and has now made four in the last four games.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
He also hadn't gotten to a ball all year long
Can’t get an error if you don’t touch it… :-D
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Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions
/rimshot
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
30 pitches Sunday and then losing last nights game
pretty much guarantees we won’t see him tonight.
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
The Rockies being ahead in the 9th will contribute nicely to this also :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Ha yeah I was gonna say
they won’t even need him. But it’s nice to know IF they did need him they couldn’t have him. It does make Bochy use the pen differently knowing he’ll have to save his second best reliever for a possible closer role.
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
If the Rockies are patient tonight and Bumgarner does not bring his "A'" they have a chance to hang a big number on the Giants here
(Of course these are the Road Rockies so that’s probably wishful thinking)
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
“A” game
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Has everyone thrown out their theories as to why the offense
is so bad on the road? If I were a science guy I would try to figure out a way to back my theory on the ball movement variations at different air densities. I sometimes thing the ball coming in a lot flatter in Coors makes the home team batter accustomed to anticipating a different trajectory of the pitch at home that then changes drastically on the road. This would cause a lot less quality contact out on the road. I can’t think of many other reasons at this point.
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
There was a great article written
about CarGo last month – and they looked at why he is so bad at fastballs on the road. Found out that the fastball moves considerable less here at Coors than it does in most other parks – A good reason as to why he kills them here – and misses them so often on the road.
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oh cool
got a link by chance? I know when I say link you think of a food item but I mean an Internetz URL
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Here ya go
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2010/8/8/1611852/carlos-gonzalez-a-god-on-a-mountain
ha ha – wieners are linked…
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Good catch
I’d have never found it over at BP….
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
it's what I do.
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I think it was a BP article
May be in our old fanshots? Will try to find it…
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
BEAT YOU!
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This has been my theory for a while,
and yes, I have quantified it (I don’t have any data handy at the moment). There was also a great fanpost on the Oakland A’s SBN site about Cargo.
Street only threw 9 pitches last night, no?
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
He's thrown the last three games though
It would be ideal if the didn’t have to throw tonight with an afternoon game Wednesday and a quick turn for Thursdays game.
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Ya, I'd forgotten he threw on Saturday
That probably means Belisle as closer tonight. Not sure how I feel about that, because he seems gassed, after being the most reliable tool in our toolbox most of the year.
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Belisle has also thrown the most innings of any reliver in baseball
which is probably why hes gassed. hes been awesome this year though. 2nd in Fangraphs WAR among relievers with only Marmol ahead of him
by purplesocks on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
I really don't know who we *should* be using tonight
Beimel, I suppose. It’s so easy to eliminate.
Heck, I’d be okay with giving Matt Reynolds a shot, though I don’t see him at all as a closer…
No Street tonight
No Belisle tonight
No Morales ANY night
not as punny as SDcat00
by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I haven't firured out how yet but I have this weird feeling that Morales will somehow get the win tonight
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
So you're saying the game goes 16 innings, then
Got it.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
oh we could still see belisle tonight
hes only pitched 1/3 of an inning the past 3 days
by purplesocks on Aug 31, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
That was a pretty horrific 1/3 inning....
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah it was. And the inning he pitched 4 days ago wasn't pretty either
that being said, im sure hes available tonight
by purplesocks on Aug 31, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions
No doubt he's available, but I'd hate to see him in a high leverage spot right now
We’re going to need to lean on him a lot in September, and given recent struggles, I’d really like to see him sit another couple days. And definitely not close tonight.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
oh i agree. maybe do a Righty/Lefty comittee tonight with Reynolds and Betancourt
hopefully we blow them out so we dont need a closer
by purplesocks on Aug 31, 2010 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Your solution is best
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Historically, not a good closer, self-admitted uncomfortable in the role
I think he’s got the stuff to do it, but I also believe in putting people in the best position to succeed. If he doesn’t pitch the ninth as “himself”, then why force the issue unless you absolutely have to?
Reynolds has no fear.
Besides, if we move Raffy to the 9th, then we have to fill the hole in the 8th, as well, which means more unusual bodies in more unusual slots.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
but it was 3 days in a row
he probably gets the night off
by purplesocks on Aug 31, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
To further this point:
Sanchez owns CarGo, period. To the tune of 0-11 with 5 Ks against him.
by blooming rock on Aug 31, 2010 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Such sad news about Barmes' father.
It’s a wonder Barmes can concentrate on baseball at all.
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I feel really bad about being mean to Clint last night.
Its important to remind myself that baseball’s just a game and the people who play it are as human as I am.
Honestly, this might explain a lot about Barmey's struggles..
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I think you're right.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep
Big ups to Barmes for putting the team before himself. It shows what character is all about.
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Aug 31, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I think you're right, too
So maybe we can all just leave him be, and keep this in mind when deciding what to do with him going forward after the season.
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IAWTC
No more Barmes bashing for the rest of the season.
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
2010 Rockies - It can happen!
I'm not suggesting we can't critique him, but maybe not be so mean about it
That was not directed at anyone in particular.
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Exactly.
Even better, let’s win the World Series for Clint’s father!
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
2010 Rockies - It can happen!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Aug 31, 2010 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS.
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
by glaucophane on Aug 31, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
That really sucks.
I know what he’s going through. My dad was diagnosed about two years ago and is very close to the end. It’s such a horrible disease to deal with, because it causes so much pain and just drags things out. My dad’s cancer spread to his bones also, which is apparently one of the most painful types.
It seems like the beginning is the most painful part, because you deal with so many emotions early on. I’m sure it’s been tough for Clint to put on a uniform every day and focus on the field while this is going on. I wish him and his family the best as they deal with this. I hope the Rockies FO can treat him with respect, even if he isn’t in their plans for next year.
I'm so sorry that your family has to go through this.
My prayers and thoughts are with you and your Dad. God Bless!
I'm sorry you and your family are going through this RoxnSox09
I’m sure the PR collective’s thoughts and prayers are with you and your family :)
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Thanks, guys.
We appreciate all of your thoughts and prayers.
I'm sorry to hear this
Hang in there man, all you can do is take it one day at a time
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
My condolences.
I can’t imagine how rough that is.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Im so sorry.
I know how difficult it is to have a loved one with cancer : (
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 10:52 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's scary how many people do.
Sometimes it’s easy for me to feel sorry for myself and think that nobody else is in a position like this, but the reality is that there are millions of people dealing with it. Still, it helps to have support and encouragement from others.
Speaking of which, I wonder if there’s something we could do for Clint?
Right now, he's probably overwhelmed with support from those near him
I really think showing him the respect and staying off his case, is probably the best thing we can do, to help surround him in a positive environment.
And with regard to your earlier statement, I think we can be absolutely certain the FO will treat this matter respectfully. Whether or not we agree or disagree with their personnel moves, the FO has approached these situations with nothing but class and dignity in the past.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
My father got lung cancer in his early 50s
No smoking history or anything. He was very lucky it was caught early. He had part of his lung removed, and now as healthy as can be.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm very very sorry for you and yours
Living through the death of a loved one is beyond sadness.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised if it did
That’s such a brutal process to go through and I wish him and his family the best
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I am going to be in SF on Wednesday for work
And I just bought a ticket off Stubhub, sixth row behind the Rockies bench.
Now the question I have is how much rooting can I do there without having to fear for my safety?
Ubaldo v Lincecum should be a great game.
Oh you'll be heckled relentlessly, but would hope that's about all
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The fans
are pretty good away from the internet. They treated me nice the game I was there a couple years back.
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This
I mean, it’s not as if you’ll really have to carry a taser or anything.
Go and enjoy.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions
you will live.
I did, and I cheered as much as I would’ve at Coors.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
6th row
you’ll be fine.
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by rockieprogress on Aug 31, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions
I believe Giants Fans are among the best in baseball
I was just there a few weeks ago wearing my Rockies hat and had some very good conversations with their fans about baseball. When I lived in the bay area I went to about 20 games a year, many of them Rockies games, and no one ever heckled me. Instead they bought me beer, because I would sit with them and make fun of the Dodgers.They are great fans
by arpagamos on Aug 31, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Uniting around Dodger-hatred is kinda like uniting around the US flag
I mean, it goes almost without saying…
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions
This is a fair point.
I think we might have a jaded view of Giants fans because of the acrimony we have with McC.
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I think most of the bad blood has been due to gameday threads too. We are basically a pack of rabid jackals on a good day in those threads so any kind of “ribbing” will be taken seriously.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
"jaded view of Giants fans because of the acrimony we have with McC"
This is entirely accurate.
I’m sure phone company field is a lovely place to visit, if dressed appropriately.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
it is the only place
that I have had to dress in winter clothes to go see a baseball game in July. The garlic fries are every bit as good as they though.
This July was brutal.
I’m pretty sure summer still hasn’t really shown its face, despite the single insanely hot day we had about a week ago.
it was nice when I was there
but I hear it’s been awful. My wine friends tell me that pinot is about two to three weeks behind because it’s been so cold.
I know nothing about wine. But it doesn't surprise me
that the weather could be having an effect. It really has been pretty chilly for this time of year.
meh
They weren’t jerks to me, but they weren’t nice. About as expected.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 5:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll be sort of near you. I'm about 23 rows up, section 110 (which is just on the 1B side of home plate).
Also, you’re in a safe spot. I’m not usually very vocal at all, but I’ve never had any problems.
This made me laugh. And the fact that it came after Carp pitched...well, I laughed even more.
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guuuhhh
Ima zombie.
Got back late, had to pack, tried to finish my fanpost….
Guuuuhhh
Finished it this morning. I hope you all are happy. I made the Rockies win, afterall.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 10:12 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Yes, yes you did.
Most awesome, thanks!
You should really turn around and go back, to ensure the sweep.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions
No more base running mistakes!
I wanted to say this last night, but didn’t want to rain on the party…
EYs attempt at 3rd last night was a bad move, with your best hitting Lefty in the box…
Tulo has made a couple of dumb base running mistakes in the past week or two, making the first out at third at least once. Another time I believe he forgot there was only 1 out and was half way to third by the time he realized he needed to tag first. This happened to Mora against LA (I think). And didn’t Helton get DP’ed in a stupid way recently too?
The Rox have got to play near-perfect to make this run. Let’s not give the other team any help! Remember how many outs there are!
Amost all of them have made base-running mistakes this year.
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
2010 Rockies - It can happen!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Aug 31, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
To be fair, most of them haven't had as much practice being on base as in other years
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too true!
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
2010 Rockies - It can happen!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Aug 31, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes but pacified is right to say that it has been worse recently
Another mistake that will be mostly forgotten is Cargo getting picked off second in the middle of the comeback against the Braves. That easily could have cost us that game.
If we keep doing this, we are going to get burned sooner or later.
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
This is the cost of doing business
They are trying to be aggressive on the base paths, as they have been taught. Now Mora was inexcusable, but the rest is just pushing the envelope.
I seem to recall one of the times Tulo was thrown out at 3rd recently...
…he went solely to protect a runner going home on a short-ish hit to the OF. He sacrificed himself so that the run would score.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
It's this "be aggressive" philosophy the team preaches
“be smart and know the situation” is a much better philosophy. Hopefully as some of these younger players mature (and before they become too expensive to keep) they’ll figure these things out.
I was practically screaming at Dex in the 9th inning (which is really silly considering it was on my DVR) to stay put and not get picked off, and that he’d probably score from first anyhow if CarGo made solid contact and found a gap. Happily, he did.
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions
It didn't really find a gap as much as it found an outfielder who needed a GPS :-)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Right. But I didn't know that at the time 'cause it hadn't happened yet
(actually it had, but not in my DVR-delayed experience — you get the point)
The “he did” part was referring to Dex staying on 1st and not getting picked off. So many things could have gone wrong had he run. Even if he was safe, with Tulo out they just walk CarGo, Mora grounds out or something, and we’re here talking about the 0-for-7 with RISP last night instead of a great win.
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Jonny Herrera was the #10 in ESPN Top Plays of the Day :)
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I'm gonna go out on the limb and say Cody Ross didn't make it right?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
This would be correct
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DAMN I'M GOOD
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
HOW DID YOU DO IT?!?!
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PSYCIC POWERS!!!
FOR INSTANCE, I ALSO DON’T EVER SEE THE CUBS WINNING THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
WOW!!!
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I thought the Pirates made reservations for that spot
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes but they can just use the money they got revenue sharing
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
got *from * revenue
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
The question is
Is the Cubs winning an indicator of the Apocalypse, or is it the Apocalypse it’s self.
Well you see they still won't actually win
They will hit what appears to be a walk off home run in Game 7 of the World Series but a black hole will open up and swallow the earth before the ball ever has a chance ot come down and therefore negating the World Series victory.
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
hehe
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 11:18 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
wouldn’t that be the rapture?
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Aug 31, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
this
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
If the Cubs win the series in 2012,
I’ll know want the world is to actually ending that year.
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Mike who? (kidding)
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Tonight's game is huge for the Giants
If they lose, the table is set for a Rockies sweep.
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:02 AM MDT reply actions
I was just thinking the same thing
they are going to put errrrrything into winning tonight. Rogers….our faith is in YOU
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At least Rogers can hit
Maybe we can score more runs tonight
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm gonna come out and say we have a pretty good night
against a lefty on the road for the first time. I think Madison is gonna have a hard time throwing strikes and we’re take advantage.
by BringItHome on Aug 31, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm gonna say there will be more than three runs scored
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm looking forward to watching Dickerson and Ortega
They should be fun to watch zoom up the organization,
Campos too, and quite possibly Adames, Swanner and Gagnon
The Rockies could have three or four potential 3 plus win prospects at Casper right now. That’s very exciting. Last year I believe we had just one, CBM.
I'm still holding out hope for Perez.
I know he’s unhyped (and so far as I can tell, largely ignored by the scouting community so far), and I know he had a bad game yesterday, but I think he could make something of himself.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions
He's decent...
and as I’ve said before, he’s not the only underhyped Latin American pitcher there (Campos is getting ignored outside PR as well and I’ve said how I’m looking at Barraza and Mejias as sleepers) the only reason I didn’t mention him above is that by definition a reliever isn’t going to be a three win player (meaning WAR) unless he’s an elite level closer.
If we opened it up to guys that look like they may eventually become solid role players like that, you’d have Perez, Casteel, possibly Tanos, etc.., on the list.
Okay
So the Padres have lost five games in a row and now sit at 76-54 which puts them 22 games over .500. If they play .500 baseball the rest of the way they will finish the season with 92 wins. Their schedule looks like this.
2 more @ D’backs
3 vs. Rockies
3 vs. Dodgers
4 vs. Giants
3 @ Rockies
4 @ Cards
3 @ Dodgers
3 vs. Reds
4 vs. Cubs
3@ Giants
Of those 32 games, lets take the 26 they don’t play against the Rockies and say they go .500. (I’m not saying they can’t do better but this is BY FAR the roughest their schedule has been all season and they are due to hit a bump sometime) If this happens and the Rockies go 5-1 against the Pads in their remaining six games, that means they only end up at 90 wins and in order to catch them we have to 16-10 in our other 26 games.
It’s a long shot but if we play great in the six games we have left against the Pads I don’t think the division is out of reach.
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 11:53 AM MDT reply actions
STOP BEING SO POSTIVE
THE SEASON IS OVER WE ARE DOOMED
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(pssst. rockies - you are underdogs now)
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THIS
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
2010 Rockies - It can happen!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Aug 31, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Their schedule is quite home-heavy, tho
My concern is, the Cubs are already phoning it in. The Reds may have an 8-9 game lead by then, and may be starting to rest some players.
I guess I’m just thinking, that even if the Rox go 5-1 against the Pads the rest of the way, the Pads probably still get to 92 wins. But they are showing a few cracks. So why don’t the Rox just go ahead and get to 94 wins, and the Pads can have the WC.
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by Mondogarage on Aug 31, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
I think 94 is to high a number to ask the Rockies to get to
As far as your other concerns though
1) It doesn’t seem to matter if the Pads play at home or on the road. While the Rockies, Braves, Giants, Dodgers, Phils, and Cards all have huge home/road splits, the Pads are 38-26 at home and 38-28 on the road. (They also only have two more home games left than road games so I don’t think this is a big)
2) As long as the Reds don’t get more than 7 games ahead in their division we are in good shape because I think they will want to clinch the division before they start resting players. I think that series against the Pads will happen just in time. (The Cards will start winning some games soon as their raod trip is almost over)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions
This assumes the Rockies find a way to win on the road, and especially in LA
which is not impossible, but the evidence is overwhelmingly against it.
Now if we win this series in SF, win Thursday, and win the next road series in San Diego, it’ll be time to withdraw the fork.
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
It's not as daunting a task as you might think though
In the Rockies 26 games left this year not against the Pads, they have 12 on the road and 14 at home. That means a 6-6 mark on the road and a 10-4 mark at home gets them to to that 16-10 record I mentioned.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
right now .500 on the road seems pretty daunting
hopefully this San Fran series eases my worries
by purplesocks on Aug 31, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
If we can't go .500 the rest of the way on the road then we don't deserve to make it
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
pshaw.
I really dislike this “deserve to win” stuff.
If a team figures out a way to win enough games to get in the playoffs, I think they deserve to be in the playoffs.
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I have to admit, this is something that's been bothering me about this year
Maybe y’all can talk me out of it.
This season, the Rockies have not played playoff-caliber baseball. The playoffs are for the best 8 teams out of 30 and if the team we’ve seen so far this year is one of the best 8 then as a baseball fan I’m very sad for our sport. Now it’s quite possible that in the last quarter of the season, a team which has been mediocre plays terrific ball, which would average out to “good” or something, but are they really as good as a team which played well consistently?
Late-season surges are fun to watch, and that was part of the intent for the wild card but the goal this year was to have a team play solidly from start to finish and win the division. That will not happen this year, so in a sense even if we make the playoffs the season is a disappointment. How’s a fan to make sense of this?
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Much of baseball is about failure
If a batter fails 7 out of every ten at bats for 15 years, he probably ends up in Cooperstown. I think it’s just part of the nature of this game.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions
See thats the problem though
the season is a 162 game race.
In highschool I was a distance runner. I was one of those runners who had a really strong sprint at the end of a race – so folks who weren’t used to racing with me blew me off if I fell behind early in the race – but I would always come back into it because of my fantastic closing speed – often winning because people were not expecting me to be there at the end.
I see the Rockies sort of the same way – if they have a strong run at the end of this race – they deserve to be in the playoffs. They played the best over the course of the season – because damnit the last month counts too.
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This
So far the Rockies have not been one of the 8 best teams. That doesn’t mean they won’t be by the end of 162 games.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Right now they are 3.5 games from that level
(not necessarily top 8 teams in baseball, but top non-division leader in the NL, which is the requirement for making the playoffs…)
So no, they haven’t played to that level. But they also aren’t that far away from it, as seems to be the impression at times. That was part of the rather jumbled point I was making in the comment listing the 130 game records in 2007, 2009 and 2010. We have played better (W/L wise, at least) than 2007, not quite as well as 2009. This team may not be having the season we expected going in, but they also have absolutely nothing to apologize for when it comes to being in the playoff hunt.
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by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think any team ever has anything to apologize for being the a playoff hunt after that 83 win Cardinal team won the World Series
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
the
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting analogy
I think this helped sort it out a lot. If the Rockies came back and won the division, I’d say there’s no question that they were the best over 162 games. But if they come back and win the wild card, then they didn’t win the race. It would be like a qualifying race where the top two get to move on. You move on so you’re happy, but you know someone beat you that time.
Since the goal this year was to win the division, it would be disappointing from that angle, but from the perspective of dealing with the injuries and such that the team has had to deal with, qualifying in the top two would still be an accomplishment.
Thanks!
(oh, and about baseball being more about failure than success, you don’t have to tell me that. I’ve rooted for two teams for the past 30 or so years. In that time, the teams I’ve followed have made the playoffs only 5 times. 3-in-10 would be a major improvement :-) It’s the frequency of failure in this game that makes the success so much sweeter. )
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions
The team goal of winning the division
was not unreasonable at that time. And then the following happened
1) Huston Street starts the season on the DL
2) McGregor died,( I don’t care what anyone says, it affected the team)
3) Todd couldn’t get it going, and was injured
4) Hawpe couldn’t get it going and was injured
5) We forgot how to play on the road
etc, etc, etc
If we manage to make it in through the Wild Card, I will consider that a great success.
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If they come back and win the wild card, then they didn’t win the race. It would be like a qualifying race where the top two get to move on.
That’s exactly how the regular season works in MLB. It’s just about getting to the next step. The Wild Card makes winning the division irrelevant; as long as you get in you’re season is a success.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions
irrelevant?
I would have much rather played the Cards last year than the Phillies
I do agree about the season being a success
by making the post season, but I would like to go a little deeper this year should we make it.
I wouldn't call it irrelevant
It’s still a greater accomplishment to win the division than to win the wild card.
It’s probably personal preference, but there’s a ranking, something like:
1) win the world series
2) win the pennant
3) win the division
4) win the division series in the playoffs
5) make the playoffs
6) have a winning season you think you can build from
etc
Some people would no doubt swap 3 and 4, but I still think winning the division is important. I also think wire-to-wire division champs are very special, regardless of what they do in the playoffs. It’s probably more difficult to do than winning the world series.
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So you consider the 2008 Cubs season a success?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions
It's a scale
so, the 2008 Cubs were more successful than, say, the 2008 Nationals. They were less successful than they hoped for and they were less successful than the 2008 Phillies and 2008 Rays.
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How about the 2008 Dodgers who only won 84 games but swept the Cubs in the NLDS?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I would say that the 2008 Cubs were more successful
and that making the playoffs 3 games above .500 is a joke. But had the Dodgers gone on to win the pennant, they would be more successful.
From the question, I take it you would argue otherwise, which only shows that the scale is subjective, just like most value scales in life.
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Yeah I would argue the other way
That to me that is the magic of October. I believe that 97 wins and 162 games of great baseball can be wiped out in three games by getting swept by an 84 win Dodger team.
I know many people may be able to focus more on the 97 wins but as a fan I’d rather have my team be the 84 win Dodger team than the 97 win Cub team.
That massive failure at the end would just erase too much of the good in the season for me.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I keep trying to counter your point
but this is a strong one. For certain teams success can only be defined by reaching certain levels. In Boston it was always if the Sox lose to the Yankees in the ALCS the season was a disaster. In NY it’s if the Yankees don’t win the WS the world is over. So yes essentially you make a good point, but generally I think most teams goals are to make the post season and follow the list above/below whatever as far as the scale goes.
I agree most team's goals are different and I think that plays a huge role in whether a season is seen as a success or failure
As mentioned above, it gets really subjective at this point
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions
If it had been the Pirates, that Cubs season would have been a success, yes...
The playoffs are a major goal, but they’re just one of several, I think. Baseball isn’t the same as other professional sports where just having a winning percentage is likely to get you in. Sometimes the breaks work out that you have a good team, just not quite good enough.
Last year’s Braves team is a good example, it seems a majority of their fans and their front office felt they had a successful season despite not making the playoffs and they were able to use it to build on heading into this season.
To illustrate
I can point you to the 1993 San Francisco Giants. 103 wins. Generally considered a phenomenal season. Missed the playoffs by one game (pre WC-era, of course).
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The Rockies are largely to blame for that too...they went 0-12 or something against the Braves that year.
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Including losing the last 3 games of the season to the Braves
And the Rox went 3-10 versus the Gints
So really, the Gints have no one to blame but themselves, because they couldn’t beat the Rockies enough times. So we appear to come full circle.
Relying on an expansion team to ensure your playoff trip is risky.
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I agree that there are different ways to view a season
and that it’s more of a spectrum than a straight success/fail thing but I view the division crown and the Wild Card spot as almost on the line in the spectrum.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't, I still see a division title as above the wild card
and the longer the Rockies go without one, the wider the gap between the two becomes. I know I’m not alone among Rockies fans in this sentiment. This would be a case where the relative value of that to our team is probably greater than it is to the other playoff contenders. The Yankees probably see little value in anything short of a World Series title. The Padres probably would find a lot of value in this season even if they collapsed and missed the playoffs.
I still see a division title as above the wild card
I still think the difference is extremely small. The Wild Card winners pop just as much champaign as the division winners do every season just for making it into the playoffs. Also, it’s not like there’s a trophy for winning the division like there is for winning the World Series or the pennant.
And if the Pads collapse I believe they will be remembered as a team that folded down the stretch instead of one who overachieved but I think that’s a different debate.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay almost irrelevant
Since MLB added the Wild Card in 1995 the team with the best record in each league has advanced to the World Series 9 times and the Wild Card winners have advanced 8 times. What I’m saying is all that matters is getting in because once you get in history shows that no sopt is really an advantage in advancing to the World Series.
If this is true then winning the Wild Card is just as good as winning the division.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you from the stat perspecitve
but winning the division has a better emotional feel to it. Does it make your chances better to get to the WS – no – but how awesome would it be to hear “Colorado Rockies – NL West Champions”.
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Maybe my mind will change if we win the division
I can’t say that I know winning the division has a better emotional feel to it because I’ve never experienced it.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm sure it does
/sobs in corner
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It's can't be better than sweeping the NLCS
against the team that won the division :)
This could play into it
(personal experience, that is).
For me, my favorite baseball season was the 2007 Rockies, for reasons I don’t have to explain to anyone here, but a key to it was winning the pennant and playing in the World Series. Had they lost in the NLDS, it wouldn’t have been nearly as special.
My second favorite season was the 1997 Orioles, who won 98 games including a wire-to-wire division title over the Yankees, Red Sox, and Blue Jays. They won the ALDS but lost to Cleveland due to horrendous performances by Armando Benitez (who I will NEVER NEVER forgive). It was a very flukey thing to lose that series, but the thrill of watching a very good team play very good ball for 6 whole months and looking back at other teams in the standings all year was something I’ll never forget, and something I desperately want the Rockies to accomplish and Rockies fans to experience. This Rockies team has the potential and will do it when they’re able to stay mostly healthy some year.
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well I still agree with roarfrom112
but we can agree to disagree
I think we're looking at it from different angles
That’s where the disagreement is coming from
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Not necessarily angles, but preferences
“Would you prefer a week skiing or a week at the beach?” Some will say one, some will say the other.
“Would you prefer a 100-game season or a NLDS win?” Some will say one, some will say the other.
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NLDS win
every time.
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Agree
An this is why October is so awesome
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
^ 100-win season
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100 wins is meaningless
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how much fun would we have
all year if we dominated baseball. Every game we could expect to win. No more terrible road loosing streaks. No more getting beat up by the Dodgers. We would be cracking bottles of champagne in August if not June :). Yeah my heart would be broken but then next year is right around the corner. I t would be awful to lose in the NLDS don’t get me wrong and I would rather barely get in and win it, but a 100 win season isn’t meaningless
If we were to win
100 games – and not win the NLDS or for that matter the NLCS – I would want to forget that season..
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really
is the end result all that matters? You watch almost every game and blog about it. Wouldn’t a long season of being really happy be fun even if the end crushed your heart?
But in the end you would be remembered as a team that chocked
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
My expectations
would have risen considerably for winning the NL Pennant if not the World Series – and the emtional fall would hurt much more so when we lost.
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but winning those 100 games
would be a blast. True I would need medication to make it to Spring, but the season would have been fun.
Yep
You get 6 months of great baseball and “this could be our year”, then a couple of days of “uh oh” followed by a big “AARRRRGGGHHHHHH!!! WTF?!?!!”, but it passes. In the end, the memories of the good 6 months come out ahead.
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But ultimately those 100 wins
don’t really get you anything. The 4 wins in the last series of the year get you remembered. The 162 regular season games, ultimately, are there to qualify you to go after the big prize.
I’d enjoy a 100 win season, but I would never trade postseason success to get it.
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by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you about the post season
The Mariners once won an amazing 100 and some games and I believe lost in the ALDS. People still remember that season but barely. Yet it still sounds like fun to me even if we lose in the end, but yes I would rather win NLDS, NLCS, WS, and only win 83 games in the season. In the end though I’m selfish I want both a 100+ win season and a world series ring
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey look!
I was helpful – and not just about how to cook a good hot dog!
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Yeah!
but it is about lunchtime. Perhaps I should have hot dogs :-)
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I've had hot dogs
7 out of the last 8 games the rockies have played…guess which day I missed…
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That's a lot of hot dogs!
I don’t think my arteries would approve.
But once a week or so is good, and since I can’t go to the game on Thursday due to having to drive to Minnesota for yet another wedding, I might as well.
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How I don't weigh
300 lbs is amazing…But yeah I love me some hotdogs…
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See, that's the thing
I think we’re underselling our performance. To be frank, the overall numbers for our pitching staff reveal this to be the single greatest season of pitching in Colorado Rockies’ history.
Our defense, though not at record-setting 2007 levels, has actually been in easily in the top 1/3 of MLB all season, and is now around top 10.
This team is flawed, but every team is flawed. And the team has overcome certainly more than their fair share of games missed to injury by key players. I’m not convinced we’re not playoff-caliber. Of course, I’m not convinced we’ll be playing playoff baseball, either.
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The top 10 IS the top 1/3
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 31, 2010 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
According to several metrics our defense grades out as average, even slightly below average.
But if you don’t trust them, I won’t blame you.
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Think about the Padres and the Rockies
Most everyone here has said the Padres are not a more talented team. They are lucky, BABIP, (BHOE)etc. Yet they never had more than a 3 game losing streak which has resulted in a significant lead in the division.
The Rockies were supposedly a better talented, better built to win and team and we all know what’s happened.
So, now the Rockies have started taking advantage of their opportunities and at home and the Padres have inexplicably started losing more games.
Which team “deserves to win”?
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if we win the division
it will be because the Padres failed epically. I will look forward to seeing that movie we talked about yesterday
I wasn't suggesting we would win the division
My point was to illustrate that whichever team remains standing via division or WC deserves to win.
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I was trying to counter it
for example I’m not sure that if the Rockies won the division this year with say 92 wins you could say they deserved it. SD would have to play so terrible they would barely be representative of an MLB team. Yet this is sort of possible
I cannot disagree more.
If the Rockies somehow win the division because they played better than the Padres do in the last month…how are they any less deserving?
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I want to get to the postseason anyway we can
but if that scenario happened above I believe it would be a gift from SD and not an achievement of the Rockies. It’s not that they played better its that the Padres self destructed. We didn’t get there by winning we got there cause another team lost.
Let me ask this if a team made the playoffs by winning their division with less than a .500 record do they really deserve to be there?
In general your right though most teams deserve to be in the playoffs because they won. My argument is hypothetical crap that really is just wasting blog space probably because I would rather do this than work
I disagree, just because the way that the schedule works out
The Padres have an NL West gauntlet of teams that know them, are gunning for them and are near equals (or as is widely thought in the Rockies case betters) to them. If they lose six against the Rockies and four each against the Dodgers and Giants, it’s not necessarily as much a collapse on their part as it would be a better team finally overtaking them in the end.
The 07 Mets played only NL East teams down the stretch and were 0-7 in their last two series vs. the Phils and they are remembered as chokes
How would the Pads be different than this?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Because the Padres may well be overtaken before the last 7 games of the season
If they’re really going to collapse, we’re probably seeing it in action right now.
not as punny as SDcat00
Disagree
… because it would be a gift from SD and not an achievement of the Rockies. It’s not that they played better its that the Padres self destructed.
If the race ends up tight with the Rockies just missing the playoffs, you could say that about the wild card team who"got there just cuz the Rockies had a 2-9 road trip."
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by trekinaz on Aug 31, 2010 4:21 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
We have the second highest 3rd order winning % in the NL (behind ATL) FWIW...seventh in MLB
So obviously they aren’t playing that poorly
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For a team that's gone 26-40 on the road so far, .500 would be an accomplishment
like I said, it’s not impossible, but some important things need to change in a hurry. This week can do a lot to prove the team is capable of it.
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 31, 2010 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions
lets get emmmmmm
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 31, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I just read the game thread from last night.
Good reading material…..but that’s all I have: PR….I’m not even out of Cali yet.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 12:05 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Cali's a big state
(of course they all seem big to me)
The 2010 Rockies are done!!!!! Do you hear me Rockies? You have NO SHOT at making the postseason. In fact I guarantee you will not make the postseason. (Okay, now that I have removed all expectations go out and make me eat these words)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions
A little historical comparison
Records after 130 games this year, and in the 07 and 09 playoff years:
2009: 72-58
2010: 69-61
2007: 67-63
We’re 3 games behind last years pace and only a couple games ahead of where we were in 07 leading up to the big crazy season ending winapalooza. To me I guess it’s a little bit disconcerting, since it highlights the need for another exceptionally hot finish, but also gives me hope as we are right in the ballpark of our last couple playoff seasons. It also kind of defeats the feeling that seems to float in the air sometimes that we’re having a sub-par season and somehow should feel lucky just to be in the wild card race at all (or that we’re delusional for even believing that we are…)
Obviously the big stat is the 3.5 games back in the wild card, and the numbers we really need to beat aren’t our own 2007 and 2009, but Philly, SF and SL’s 2010. That, I have no doubt, is possible, but it won’t be easy.
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That's why getting through these next six games well is so key
No only do we have a chance to directly pick up ground on the teams in front of us but it also puts us in good shape to make a run considering 16 of 22 after the Padre series this weeked are at Coors. As Rox Girl said, if we go 5-2 in this stretch against the Giants, Phils, and Pads, we are in a position to make a good run at this.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions
De La Rosa gave us a huge win on the road against SF last year too
It was Wed. Sept 16, 2009 against SF. 8 innings pitched, 3 hits, 0 runs, 2 Walks, 9 ks. Rox won 4 to 3. Before that game they had lost 4 in a row (2 to SF who was just 2.5 games behind us in the wild card. The Rox went on to win 9 of their next 13 games to earn the NL wild card. (they lost the last 2 games of the season that didn’t matter) That was a HUGE game for us last year. We went into last nights game on a winning streak but the nature of last nights win does have a similar feeling. GO ROX!
Yep...I mentioned this in the game thread yesterday.
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time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 31, 2010 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions
From ducksnorts.com
Meanwhile, the Rockies beat the Giants to keep San Francisco five games back of the Padres. That’s great, except Colorado is now just seven games back. Have I mentioned that the Rockies make me nervous? Between their weird September mojo and the fact that they remain the most talent-laden team in the division… look, can we just start the playoffs now? Is that so much to ask?
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Aug 31, 2010 1:16 PM MDT reply actions
Trade!
Just posted:
RealRockies#Rockies acquire RHP Manny Delcarmen from Boston along with cash considerations for Minor League RHP Chris Balcom-Miller.
Kinda sucks I liked Balcom-Miller
IAWTC
That seems to kind of sum it up for me right now.
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by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
One part of the deal I do love, however
is that we are buying at the deadline in order to gear up for a postseason run, and the Red Sawx are selling to us….
I know it’s a little more complicated than that, but that’s how I choose to view it…. :-D
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by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't like this trade
Delcarmen is awful in big spots
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Yay, it's not Kevin Gregg....
/waits for Jim Jimenez
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A little less pricey
than Helton, I guess, even if a few years later.
For CBM
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I know CBM got decent results, but didn't he only have sorta average stuff?
Our 7th ranked PURP pitcher, 14th ranked PURP overall.
Guess I’m okay with this.
definitely indicates the club is going for it. But yeah, I was sorta looking forward to seeing CBM, as well.
not as punny as SDcat00
He stood out because his pitching style was organizationally condusive.
He had potential to be a groundball whiz.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Cool
Definitely not a Smoltz for Alexander trade, so I approve, given the circumstances of our worn down pen.
not as punny as SDcat00
swings and misses
poor contact ;-)
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I will sooon.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Delcarmen will be arbitration eligible for us next year, and the following year.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I think he was getting about 1 million this year so that's what they have to work off of
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
$905k this year
"I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else" - W. Churchill
Just under that, yes.
Probably not due for a gigantic raise next year, but there’s still a month left to play.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
After the number of people I've seen him walk in close games this season he certainly shouldn't be getting a raise
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 31, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
He's struggled with the long ball this year, but has a decent history behind him.
He definitely fits the mold of an underperformer this year who could regain form with a change of scenery.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Too many walks/9, not enough k/9 this year
But yeah, maybe he can replace Corpas on the 2011 roster….
not as punny as SDcat00
I always thinks this doubles when a guy goes from BOS or NYY
Even our race to the playoffs is less pressure than every game for those two so, I would say decent chance for a turnaround
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K/BB ratio is pretty awful this year (32/28 in 44 innings)
7 HR’s allowed in those 44 innings isn’t quite as bad as I feared from your comment, but not anything to get excited about either.
We were teased yesterday about a “change of scenery type”. We may have gotten the ultimate example here.
It’s always hard to lose a prospect who is doing well, as CBM certainly has. But if Del Carmen is able to help us out down the stretch here and stick around to contribute for a couple more years, I think a guy who projects as a lower end of the rotation starter at best might be a price I can deal with. Might.
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Bazinga!!
by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
wow
That’s a great deal better reliever than I expected to get. Also a better prospect than I expected to give up
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 31, 2010 2:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Posted Now
http://www.purplerow.com/2010/8/31/1661257/rockies-acquire-rhp-manny
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Ideas about the corresponding roster move?
who took Ian’s spot on 25 man?
"I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else" - W. Churchill
of course
so who leaves for Delcarmen?
"I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else" - W. Churchill
then he wouldn't be post season eligible
"I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else" - W. Churchill
If I'm not mistaken...
Whomever is sent down can’t come back for something like 7 days, even with roster expansion, and of course ineligible for playoffs. Not that it would break my heart with the human atom bomb or anything.
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by trekinaz on Aug 31, 2010 4:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
10 days.
Unless they’re replacing an injury.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions
We don't need to activate Delcarmen until three days from now.
No move needs to be made until the roster expansion anyway.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
But wouldn't the point be to have him be post season eligible?
"I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else" - W. Churchill
even for him to be post season eligible?
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions
At the end of the season, anyone who is injured can be placed on the 60 Day DL inconsequentially.
See: Manny Corpas.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
The DL is just so open for abuse
/kidding
"I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else" - W. Churchill
I was actually thinking about that whole conversation today...
reading the news that the Jays are going to shut down Brandon Morrow for the year after his start Friday against the Yankees. Made me wonder how they’ll get him off the active roster (assuming they don’t just go with a 24 man roster the rest of the season). Seems like they either send him down to AAA and screw up their roster or put him on the DL (but thanks to WM I know that’s impossible…)
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by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
They won't have to do anything with him
Rosters expand, no need to DL him, they’ll just use callups.
not as punny as SDcat00
D'OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/slaps forehead
Really tried to overthink that one, resulting in not thinking at all….
Thanks, Mondo…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions
's all cool, but in penance
You have to listen to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUaE5EuoGac
(Probably should right click and open in new tab…having link problems today)
not as punny as SDcat00
I shall do it tonight
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by Junction Rox on Aug 31, 2010 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't consider that an absuse. :p
Basically, even if Daley is activated, Corpas is already on the DL. We can put him on the 60 Day at any point and use Delcarmen as the replacement if he doesn’t qualify.
That said, just because we don’t HAVE to activate him right away doesn’t mean we won’t.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions
To specify, players whoi are traded have three days to leave one roster and jopin the active roster of the other.
We did the same thing when we got Hammel last year.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Forgive the typos.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions
WOW WAS LAST NIGHT CRAZY OR WHAT?
Let me just say one thing: I TOTALLY CALLED CARGO’S SHOT IN THE RIGHT FIELD GAP IN THE NINTH INNING!! I swear it. It was incredible.
Wow being at a big league game is just…amazing. One of the best experiences of my life. Actually SEEING the guys you have become so attached to over the course of a few years was phenomenal – instead of seeing their pictures on Gameday or their 2D images on a television screen. Grrr… I really need to go to more games. it was just…crazy.. I’m definitely not going to forget that trip EVER.
Well about the game. We got very good seats ( except we sat by this very rude gang of big, fat Filipino men who stared at me very rudely).. Arrived when the team was taking BP. Tulo did not look healthy AT ALL, he couldn’t really step with his left leg when he swung. However, the ball was coming off his bat great. Anyways…
I knew how the game was going to go last night – Rockies were probably going to struggle offensively and we were going to get a low-scoring game. Needless to say, I was pissed off after not scoring anything in 8 runs. (I already read the gamethread last night and yes holly, you were right – I was MAD). But once CarGo hit that triple’s alley shot (and yes, I called it) everything obviously changed :)
Damn Street gave me heart attacks at the game!! I knew it wasn’t going to be easy but jiminy!! I thought Huff’s shot was gone. GOOD THING a huge patch of fog came out RIGHT before Huff’s AB. Ironic I know. Baseball gods just wanted the Rockies to win last night. Hell, this is OUR YEAR.
Go Rockies.
There's nothing like a good pitching duel, and you got a beauty!
it’s a great game when you know there wont be a lot of runs scored, so every pitch and every at-bat is key. Glad you (and PiP) got a chance to see it live.
Are you going to any of the other games in the series?
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Unfortunately no.
I’m going back to the Central Valley today :( I’m definitely going to more games in the future, I really want to hit Coors Field soon (I’ll probably go if the team makes the playoffs).
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 31, 2010 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Awesome.
So, you were on the 1st base side? I thought I saw some purple arrive in that area during BP. Were you with another person? I couldn’t see that far, should’ve brought my binoculars. Also, during the pregame text thingie, I saw “Go Rockies!!” just like that, and thought it could’ve been you.
Well, cool! I’m glad for you!
You’re very welcome to post any thoughts in my fanpost!
And, yep, This is R year!!
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 4:39 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Time to do the unthinkable....give props to MCC
There’s some mad Neko Case love going on over there right now. Someone over there’s got good taste. I may have to queue up Blacklisted, as soon as I finish this here Afghan Whigs live (cover of Curtis Mayfield’s “If There’s Hell Below We’re All Going To Go”)
I swear, music does a better job than RC cola bringin’ folks together.
/kumbaya moment over
not as punny as SDcat00
Reply fail
Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0vk5SGmw3w&feature=related
not as punny as SDcat00
For some reason I can not get into female singers
other than P.J. Harvey, Kate Maki and Jesse Sykes
#11
That's totally cool, I'm not into too too many of them myself...
….but it’s inconceivable that someone into PJ couldn’t like Neko, imho….
not as punny as SDcat00
RC COLA SUCKS
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WORST SODA EVER
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I don't think I've ever actually had it.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions
It tastes worse
than onions.
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I would rather
drink a gallon of gravy before a cup of RC Cola.
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Well, if the gallon came with three dozen flaky biscuits, I might, too
but the option of both would be winnah.
not as punny as SDcat00
Now that sounds like
a grand idea.
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That's saying something.
Onions make me cry. And not just because they’re irritating on the eyes.
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions
my hands have smelled of onions and peanut butter all day
made a thai peanut marinade last night.
about to go home and see how it is.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions
that sounds
awful – did you mix in some RC Cola to go with that?
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hot dog hot dog hot dog
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions
never nude never nude never nude never nude
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hot dog hot dog hot dog
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions
you blow hard.
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i can taste those leading man parts in my mouth.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Who would like
a banger in the mouth?
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...
I’m afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run if you will, so I’m afraid I have something of a mess on my hands.
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
so many poorly chosen words there.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind kissing that man between the cheeks.
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
oh michael
you can sink your arrow into my buttocks anytime.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions
He just wants to see boys' Linuses.
"Ninety feet between a hot dog and my mouth is too far" - Maria M (SDCAT09 is awesome for coming up with this fake quote for me!)
Super Overlady Of the Ubaldo Lovers Club.
Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
as expected No Tulo in line up again today
via Troy Renck
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
He also announced which Rockies will be going to the Arizona Fall League during the off season.
Billings, Blackmon, Brothers, Field, Jorgenson, Pacheco, (Greg) Reynolds
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by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions
yup
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 31, 2010 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions
line up
2b ey cf fowler rf cargo 3b mora 1b giambi lf spilborghs c olivo ss barmes rhp rogers
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
Oof. The bottom half scares me.
I can see Spilly over Smith, but Olivo, Giambi, and Barmes don’t seem like the best options.
Well, Helton needs a day off, and with no Stewart, no RH option for 1B
Could have done Herrera at 3B, Mora at 1B, but then that really restricts the bench tonight.
not as punny as SDcat00
Olivio did have 2 hits last night
and CDI is not tearing it up why not give him another game?
MY FACEBOOK STATUS:WAITING AROUND THE CORNER FOR FRANKLIN MORALES
i don't know why
but i have a good feeling Giambi will have a big night tonight
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 31, 2010 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I hadn't realized that about Helton.
Though I know he needs frequent rest. I guess it might be the best we could put out there; that’s just not saying a lot.
gotta go with what we have right now
saving Iannetta for tomorrow he hits Lincey well….and Mora against a lefty is a good option and Todd needed a day off
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 31, 2010 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly. It's not an ideal lineup, but given no Tulo and no Todd tonight.....
….it’s probably as good as we can assemble, given the circumstances.
not as punny as SDcat00
/5 spot in top of the first.
The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Renck informs us that the Rockies will begin by expanding the roster by two tomorrow.
He predicts Nelson and Buchholz.
PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
Delcarmen of course will follow shortly thereafter.
PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
by Greg Stanwood on Aug 31, 2010 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions
WolfMarauder, do you know of any Luke (or Luc) in our organization that is a pitcher?
Met some Rockies fans yesterday who are friends of his, and they say he plays in one of the A levels, one of the reasons they are Rockies fans.
I still believe...
This is R year!
by prettyinpurple on Aug 31, 2010 7:16 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
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