Padres 7, Rockies 6: Late Rox rally falls short
Upon landing in Denver, Heath Bell made a prediction that the Padres were going to kick some (redacted) in the series against the Rockies. Despite nearly being the one that prevented that from happening (temporarily, at least), Bell's prediction held true as the Padres escaped with the W - for the game and for the series.
As big as some of the Friars (Jon Garland, Aaron Cunningham, Matt Stairs) came up in this game, the Rockies may have beaten themselves by not locating pitches well and, at times, disregarding fundamentals. Jason Hammel was roughed up for four runs on ten hits in four innings, and struggled with the command of his fastball the entire time. Meanwhile, Eric Young Jr. committed a couple of fielding errors and Edgmer Escalona failed to cover first base on a grounder to Todd Helton that had the potential to be a double play ball.
Despite all of that, the Rox did their best to rally from deficits of 4-0 and 7-4. Carlos Gonzalez's two-run double and a Helton sacrifice fly put the Rox on the board and got them to within a run. However, the Padres gave themselves some cushion on a pinch-hit two-run homer by Stairs off of Rafael Betancourt. In the ninth, Helton led off with a double off of Bell and was driven in by a two-bagger by Mora. After Seth Smith failed to execute, Jay Payton pinch-hit for Miguel Olivo and promptly singled in Mora to cut the lead to 7-6. After unintentionally-intentionally walking Jason Giambi, Bell induced Eric Young Jr. to swing early in the count and ground into a game-ending double play. It was EY's first GIDP of the season.
The season isn't over by any means, but the Rockies obviously have some work to do. It starts by winning tomorrow.
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Free Chris Nelson. That is all.
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Nelson, as well as Rogers, have emerged a new pair of favorite Rockies, replacing Hawpe and Flores.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Rogers is for sure one of my favorites
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I was at the game Sunday, where Rogers was just an amazing human being.
I spend every game I go to at the bullpen for its entirety, and not only is Rogers one of the most entertaining to watch, he also pitched those good couple of innings, and most impressive of all, threw a ball from the CF warning track to home plate on the fly during warmups before the game. I’m not exaggerating either.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow
thanks for the insight
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm liking Esmil.
He threw me a ball in SF.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 11:18 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He's definitely the most crowd-friendly guy in the pen, only Betancourt comes close.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Did you see the Rockies All Access ad during the game?
There was a brief shot of Reynolds and another pitcher wearing their pink backpacks walking through the outfield to the bullpen, holding hands. I laughed so hard I had to rewind and watch it multiple times. Do you know if that was Rogers? Does he have a pink backpack right now? I was pretty sure it was him, but, couldn’t be positive.
In any case, it just seemed like that would totally be something he would do, embrace the hazing completely and pretend to be a little boy walking to school with his friend, or something.
It was Deduno.
I was at the game when they did that.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Rogers was wearing Escalona's pink backpack around for fun. While Rogers is a rookie this year, he was probably already hazed. At the game, only Reynolds, Deduno and Escalona had the pink backpacks.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:33 PM MDT up reply actions
In fact, it's likely Rogers was hazed last September because he was a callup last year.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes, I saw Rogers wearing the pink backpack last year in AZ
This, my second signature, is not nearly as original as my first signature. Therefore, my signature pride is hereby lessened.
Having to do it in a visiting ballpark.
Ouch.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions
It's just a backpack
Some teams do MUCH worse hazings than that… and on the road as well. The Rockies’ hazings are pretty tame.
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I've not seen any other team rituals.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 15, 2010 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions
The pink backpack has an appeal with many teams.
If you never ask, you'll never know.
But where's the integrity in saying you never knew if you never asked?
by victor frankenstein on Sep 15, 2010 7:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Ah, okay.
The shot was from behind and I couldn’t see any of Deduno’s name. It was still totally hilarious.
Yeah, it was cute.
I have mixed feelings on hazing in general, because often times it becomes bullying, but this seems innocent enough.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:42 PM MDT up reply actions
It's been a tradition for some time, too.
I saw Daley have to wear the pink backpack during June 2009 or so.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not a fan of the harsher kind of hazing.
But everything we’ve seen the Rockies do seems pretty good-natured.
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He hasn't been too hot with the Twinkies
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions
No, and that's really to be expected.
His time here was exaggerated for the positive by the fact that we had other guys covering innings he’s more likely to pitch with the Twins. And I’m probably Flores’ biggest fan on the blog.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions
that's putting it nicely
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by WalkInRight on Sep 14, 2010 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
How does a 24 year old SS
with a 313/376/492 line in AAA not get a long look at 2B?
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Tracytology?
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is that the science of Keeping the better defender with more power on the bench to
pinch run, and keeping the struggling speedster in the game to make errors?
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by TomCat009 on Sep 14, 2010 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's more
we’re 10.5 back so let’s see what we have going in to next season..10 game win streak, young speedster is doing good so he keeps getting playing time.
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah but why is nelson a Pariah?
at 2B or 3B he deserves a shot, Tracy kept Cargo in the lineup when he was hitting .200 for the defense as much as anything, keeping a defensive liability like EY2 out there seems incongrous
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im not sure what a pariah is
But I do agree nelson needs a shot somewhere just pointing out ey had been on a recent hot streak.
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 11:15 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It seems his hot streak is waning
Or at least the number of errors by him in the last couple of games warrants sitting out a game or two.
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
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He'll get his look during the Spring, I promise.
Though Eric Young is probably going in as the favorite, I don’t yet believe they’re going to outright slant Nelson out of the job. A lot of what happens with those two players also depends on whether Barmes is non-tendered or not.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
With the way this organization treats its veteran homegrown players, I haven't ruled out the possibility of them keeping him on as a utility man.
However, it is also possible they non-tender him and then try to re-sign him out of free agency at a cheaper rate than an arbitration influence figure would give. Point being, even if you feel it is likely he is non-tendered, there is still somewhat of a chance he winds up taking the 25th spot on the roster.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions
That's a great point
As far as how we treat veteran homegrowns. My heart loves that side of the team but my brain asks how many more times do we need to go down that road, especially in light of the Atkins/Hawpe situations. Granted he wouldn’t be nearly the salary albatross those two were but he’d still be eating a roster spot. Personally, I wish Barmes well but we seem to be pretty redundant at his positions with EY/Herrera/Nelson (Please free me, pretty please) along with the potential for upside with those youngsters.
This team is hard to figure out
we were starting to hit like crazy then the last 2 games of the Dbacks series we scrapped by and got lucky to win both those games….first two games of this series an inning or 2 of offense and that’s it….friggin Padres haven’t done crap lately all of a sudden they can hit the ball again this series…if it wasn’t for there bullpen they would be in such deep sh** its unreal….MUST WIN tomorrow….if not you can pretty much say goodbye to the season and that nice 10 game win streak would of been for naught
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
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Our offense is still doing their best to stay in it.
In both losses, we’ve had an uneasy starting pitching performance lead into using a tired and/or inexperienced bullpen, together producing just enough runs to keep us down and put the pressure back on us. DLR is definitely the key to tomorrow’s game, I feel.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah that too
we keep falling behind early…that is not helping at all….
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 14, 2010 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Icky mental laspe by Escalona there, but full credit for Manny Delcarmen.
It’s going to be easy to blame the game on Escalona (or Tracy’s decision to put Escalona in the game there), but I really thionk the killer was Hammel today. We were forced into our C Grade levels of September bullpennage.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm taking the Buddha approach.
This may be the last couple weeks the Rockies play this year, so I’m damn sure gonna try and enjoy them rather than tear my hair out. With that said…beat the flippin Padres.
As always, I'm not at all angry or upset about the loss.
At this point, making the playoffs doesn’t matter much to me or not, because I’ll enjoy them regardless.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Could have, would have, should have.
Keep calm and carry on.
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Updated:
37. Delcarmen
38. Escalona
39. Morales
40. Corpas
41. Dinger
Payton moves up also.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 10:33 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
hey...this list cracks me up
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I feel bad for those guys.
I actually really like Corpas. Escalona made a good impression on me while watching the bullpen shenanigans on Sunday, though Delcarmen did not. Morales is love/hate for me.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Does Escalona's brainfart make any difference to you?
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Not in my like or dislike of the guy as a human being, particularly since he's a kid.
I actually think Daley should probably have been pitching that inning instead. Like I said above, it’s easy to blame Escalona for losing the game, but I feel the real issue today was Hammel. If he does better, not only are we in less of a deficit (at least), but Escalona probably isn’t even considered to pitch. In other words, yeah, it was embarrassing, but not a killer of my like for him.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I blame the wave...
Among other things I guess…
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 10:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
IAWTC
I was at the game and there was far too much wave-ing going on!
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
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Amen, brother
the real issue today was Hammel.
And I’m a big fan of his, but boyohboy was he off tonight.
Get your purple on.
Delcarmen still has yet to make me like him,
Tonight, Escalona jest…AUGH!
I am a forgiving person though. That spot is very flexible. I really do hope he redeems himself.
As for Morales/Corpas…those are pretty permanent for me.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 10:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Delcarmen was very boring in the pen.
As you know, I love seeing the pen guys interact because they’re all usually very funny. Before, Matt Belisle was the most boring guy there, but at least he gets up and does some stuff. Delcarmen just sat still the entire time. Don’t get me wrong, I recognize it’s stupid to jump to conclusions about a guy from watching how they sit around for three hours. It just didn’t give me any reason to like him. Escalona, on the other hand, was highly entertaining and fit right in.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I think you and PIP are rating players for different reasons.
I think she probably likes all of them as people…but performances are her bugaboo.
except Dinger
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Certainly, everybody has very significantly different reasons why they choose to like or dislike someone.
Performance is certainly a factor, but if I were ranking by performance only, Corpas would be a lot higher, because I think a lot of people underrate what he contributed this season. But at least for those that don’t care for him, Corpas may have pitched his final game as a Rockie, and even if he hasn’t, he’s going to be missing next season at least.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions
True,
Performance is effecting #38 currently. I just don’t know Escalona, or Delcarmen for that matter to like them enough as people where their performance doesn’t have so much effect on their ranking. I have a strong dislike (irrational, even) for Morales amd Corpas, and combined with their sometimes sucky perfomances, they are a lock for the last 2, well 3, slots.
But yeah, its a balance between performance, likability. For example, taking my favorite arm out of the bullpen, Huston Street- well, let’s actually use Joe Beimel as an example here, if he were to blow it say, tomorrow, it would have little efffect on ranking, because I have grown to like him. But say he blew it when we just acquired him, that performance would weigh heavily on ranking, because I don’t know him well enough to like him.
The same is true for these new guys. So for Escalona and Delcarmen, I have nothing personal against them (except Delcarmen is a former reeksux), so these first few performances effect their slots greatly. But if I found out Escalona likes Honey Bunches of Oats, he might move up a slot.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 10:56 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh that's funny PIP
Honey Bunches of Oats awesome…I laughed….thank you…I needed that guffaw.
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: )
Anytime.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 11:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
If it helps (it won't), Escalona seems like a sweet kid.
He was a good sport about the hazing, spent the entire game in the pen with a smile on his face, and perhaps most important of all, he was a social butterfly. He was chatting up Street, Betancourt, Beimel, etc. looking to make friends and learn.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Thats cool,
And I’m going to have to “develop” my likability more by watching interviews, the bullpen, reading more fun articles, etc. I obviously haven’t seen as much of him as you have, actually I haven’t seen him at all, so once I do and get a feel for what he’s like….I guess the future is hopeful for him. : )
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 11:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
We won't be seeing much of him though.
He’s incredibly unlikely to make the team out of the gate next year.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Well then,
it’ll be a slow-developing likability.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 11:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Hmmm...interesting.
Like I said the spot’s up for grabs, basically, so ATTN ROCKIES: IF ONE A YOU BLOWS IT IN A MAJOR WAY, AND I DO NOT CARE FOR YOU IN PARTICULAR, YOU MAY INDEED FIND YOURSELF IN MY #38 SPOT!
I actually had Escalona ranked much higher a few days ago, I think, so…no total dislike at all.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 10:46 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
See, I still don't think Escalona's mistake was the "major" pitching fail of the game.
I think if we see him make similar mistakes, then I’ll be more concerned.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Even if it wasn't the "major" pitching fail,
or the ultimate reason we lost, his performance wasn’t all that positive.
Therefore,
/demoted to #38.
But yeah, if he keeps this up, he might be stuck there, but I highly doubt that.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 10:59 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I doubt he'll ever make THAT mistake again!
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
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you know Escalona is the guy who tried to physically attack his pitching coach this year, right?
No amount of sociability in the bullpen will make me like him.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 15, 2010 12:14 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, I heard that story, though I also heard many different interpretations about what happened.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 15, 2010 12:26 AM MDT up reply actions
The radio announcer for the Sky Sox, for one, seemed to think the incident was widely misreported.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 15, 2010 12:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Here's a link about the story
http://roxsox.freedomblogging.com/2010/05/18/escalonas-blow-up-was-a-month-in-the-works/2895/
Frazier also mentioned this incident on the broadcast today.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 15, 2010 12:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Say what you want about the Giants...but they have fans that do know baseball and know how to cheer.
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Yeah...
And they have this cool chant that they do to all outfielders…"What’s the matter with (outfielder)?…HE’S! A! BUM!.
Pretty cool, when not done to our Spilly.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 14, 2010 10:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Zito is sometimes a master illusionist.
That idiot fastball eluded the bats wonderfully, but you just scratch your head wondering how?
That being said, he cannot hide his ire at the continuing juggerNOT lack of run support when he holds the opponent down, or when the circus defense shows up. Still, he’s not vocal about it – which speaks to his character and class.
If you never ask, you'll never know.
But where's the integrity in saying you never knew if you never asked?
by victor frankenstein on Sep 15, 2010 7:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Can I has what you'rd sadding?
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Tip 'o the cap to the Pads
They clearly arrived in Denver to play serious baseball. They’ve managed to take full advantage of the vast outfield space at Coors Field while the Rockies seem to want to swing for the fences. They’ve outplayed us these last two games. Bell’s unintentional/intentional walk to Giambi was masterful. EY2 wasn’t up to the uber-high leverage AB and the Padres knew it.
It’s now the Rockies that better pray.
Get your purple on.
Tracy's comments via Renck tweets
Tracy: for third night in a row we didn’t get any starting pitching
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This should be rec'd
1,058 times
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions
don't rec me....I'm just reporting the news
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well
the starters have only pitched 17 innings in the last 4 games.. that’s very not good
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
More from Renck re Tracy comments
- Tracy doesn’t sound like will rest ey. I would rest seth less than 5 seconds ago via TweetDeck
- We don’t have to feel like season ended but we have to rectify it Tracy said 1 minute ago via TweetDeck
- It’s a huge game w de la Rosa going tomorrow 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck
- Tracy on escalona. He’s a young kid who got caught up in moment 3 minutes ago via TweetDeck
- Tracy said. We aren’t done. It’s still all in front of us but we have to do much better q starting pitching
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
what?
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oh now...just format fail on my part
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Haha me too.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 15, 2010 6:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm out
Time to read and learn before I hit the hay…
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Good night !
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Adios
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by nodakroxfan on Sep 14, 2010 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Ha
I skimmed over that as “Time to learn to read before I hit the hay”
PROJECT LIBRA: Depth / Transactions
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2010 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions
And once it was 7-6,
I had to go out and help my brother change a flat tire.
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How dare you help your brother!
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One good thing came out of tonight though..
Before the 8th I couldn’t find my Rockies hat and was sure I had lost it before my roommate was doing laundry and found it in the laundry room!
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Safe to say Tracy is not a fan of small ball
unless a guy is on third.
EY2 in the 9th. FSN did a scan of the field and Gonzalez is a good 15 feet behind 1st base line. Does Tracy not trust EY2 to get a bunt down in that situation, as there was a very good chance he could beat any bunt out at that point.
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This is exactly what I was saying at the game
and I’m not generally a fan of small ball either, EXCEPT LATE IN GAMES WHEN ONE RUN WILL WIN OR TIE THE GAME. I figured in that situation you either send EY up to bunt, (worst case he fails to do it and Dex, who was 2-for-4 at that point, still gets an at bat) or you send Herrera in (who has an uncanny ability to get base hits in key situations), or Nelson.
The infield was playing back, maybe a step shy of normal double-play depth and not in a position to defend a good bunt at all. They were, however, in perfect position to turn a ground ball double play, and we played right into their hand. If EY can’t bunt in that situation he needs to practice bunting all winter until he can.
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by RoarFrom112 on Sep 15, 2010 12:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Or you know, PH Herrera..:)
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by SDcat09 on Sep 15, 2010 12:51 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why this didn't happen I just cannot figure out.
by Skullduggerman on Sep 15, 2010 1:32 AM MDT up reply actions
PH Herrera for EY seems almost a lateral move to me.
They have similar skill sets. I think the problem may have been more the call than the personnel. I agree that with the way the defense was set up (though I didn’t notice it at the time), it would have made sense to bunt. I’m not sure we have any reason to think EY couldn’t have executed a bunt. He just didn’t try for some reason. That seems to me to be on the coaching. Unless he missed a sign.
we also had no reason to expect ey could hit into a doubly play
I don’t think you want to risk giving up an out there. Even with the d the way it was, you still have to get a good bunt down vs Heath Bell.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 15, 2010 8:17 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Back from the game
I haven’t seen baseball that bad at Coors Field in years. Starting pitching. Pitch calling (let’s throw 7 straight mid-90s fastballs despite the fact that the Padres’ game plan is obviously to swing early in counts and they hit 3 of the first 4), which is normally a strength of Olivo. And horrible defense (2 errors, which should have been 3 if you count the pitcher completely failing to cover 1st base as an error as I do when I score), save a great gem by Mora at 3rd base.
I know some will blame the offense for stranding baserunners and say that we could have won besides all that horrid baseball had we only scored more RUNZ but at some point it’s important to play fundamentally sound baseball if you want to win games. I refused to insult my rally cap by putting it on in the 9th tonight. We did not deserve to win this game. Hopefully it’s a wake-up call that we can’t go into cruise-mode after a 10-game winning streak and expect the division to just fall over. I think it will be and tomorrow the ship will get back on course with De La Rosa at the helm and sound defense and hitting manning the ropes.
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Bad baseball today...
I like Hammel but that start was painful to watch.
Where was Herrera? I think he deserved to bat for EY after what he did this weekend and the two errors by EY.
The good news is Cargo and Tulo are still studs.
I don't think you pinch hit for a guy as punishment for mistakes on defense.
You PH for a guy if you think someone else has a better chance of producing. And I’m not sure the difference in the chance of Herrera coming through versus EY coming through is as much as people think. Plus, you have to consider the possibility of extra innings. Do you burn another bench bat there?
Not as punishment for the mistakes
Mainly for his bat and if it goes into extras you have Herrera at 2B.
by Skullduggerman on Sep 15, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
at least you guys scored tonight… we lost on a one-hitter… thrown by our own staff.
the only run the dogs scored was on an error that would have ended the inning. stupid clayton kershaw.
urg Kershaw
he has had our number this year too
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 15, 2010 4:12 AM MDT up reply actions
As a result of the Rox losing this game
I will end up spending far less time smugly reading about purple success and far more time working sullenly. Boo!
Man, winning 10 games in a row then losing two at this stage of the season is like bumping into Zooey Deschanel in the street, getting her number, going for a drink, going for a meal, going back to her place, gazing deeply into each others eyes, and then jumping out the window when her boyfriend gets home :(
Hahaha that about sums it up.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 15, 2010 6:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Anyone else screaming at the TV in first inning...
Stop throwing Straight balls early in counts!!!!! They obviously came up swinging, and no one thought to start ’em off with a Curve or slider…Hello, jackasses? Lets pull our head out.
Its like the Football coach who scripts a set of plays and refuse to go away from it, until the game is lost. which is what happened, IMO. game over before one one recorded…
Hyperbole on my part? maybe, dumb and stubborn on Jason , miguel and who ever is calling the game?…absolutely
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olivo calls a good game
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 15, 2010 8:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
So Hammel refused to change? That seems peculiar.
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that may well be (however one decides this)
But the first 5 batters would provide evidence to the contrary for last nights game
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by El Paso Jeff on Sep 15, 2010 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
I say employ some scrappiness
Would be really fun to throw out this lineup:
Young Jr. (LF)
Fowler (CF)
Gonzalez (RF)
Tulowitzki (SS)
Mora (1B)
Nelson (2B)
Olivo (C1)
Herrera (3B)
Ugh
Although, insert Spilly for EYJ and you might be onto something.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 15, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions

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