The Demise of Chris Iannetta
Sunday's loss to the Dodgers in 11 innings was a very frustrating game. An early lead was quickly snuffed by any combination of bad luck, poor defense, questionable bullpen usage, controversial calls, and an inability to build on an early lead off of a shaken starter.
Troy Tulowitzki had possibly his worst defensive game of the season, making a handful of errors, throwing and fielding (yeah, they ruled one of those a hit, but come on, it was an error). Jason Hammel exited the game with a supposed dead arm after 4 incredibly mediocre innings. The pitching staff threw 4 wild pitches as well, at least one on a strikeout-dropped-third-strike that allowed the batter to reach.
While technically these were scored as wild pitches, one has to wonder why so many balls in the dirt got away from the catcher, Paul Phillips. Which leads me to an almost bigger question:
Why was Paul Phillips even playing?
The immediate answer is that backup catcher Chris Iannetta was still hurting from a calf strain he had sustained the week before while running to 1B to back up a grounder. Troy Renck confirms this, but Tracy Ringolsby, the TV announcers, and Iannetta himself all reported that Iannetta was good to go for the start on Sunday.
Since his initial callup in 2006, Iannetta has had a very shaky career with the Colorado Rockies. In his first season, Iannetta posted a respectable .759 OPS, and a downright solid .370 OBP. His slugging numbers had yet to develop, but his career looked promising.
2007 was a pretty paltry year for Iannetta, batting a mere .218/.330/.350, and while he was prepared to fight for the starting position, the organization decided he needed refresher midseason, seeing him demoted to AAA Colorado Springs. What he worked on in AAA seemed to have worked, as he came out in August and September hitting over .300 and posting wRC+ of 164 and 123.
2008 was Iannetta's real breakout year. Taking the starter role early from recent re-signee Yorvit Torrealba and never looked back. Over the season, Iannetta did not post a wRC+ below 118 excepting May, when he posted a 88 wRC+. This is to say that in 5/6 months of the season, Iannetta was 18% more valuable at the plate than the average bat. And in May he was 12% below (/brushes under the rug). It looked to most everyone that the Catcher of the Future had finally arrived.
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2009 had other plans, however. Iannetta faltered out of the gate, and while he posted solid numbers through the break, he fell pretty hard in August, losing the job to suddenly hot-as-hades Yorvit Torrealba. While Iannetta had a very strong September, it was too late, as Torrealba's timely hits and excellent OBP trumped Iannetta's superior overall OPS/wOBA/wRC+.

Regardless of who the fanbase thought should have been playing, Iannetta's massive OPS and lefty-crushing ability continued to ride the pine in favor of Yorvit Torrealba, and Yorvit killed it, too, going 5-for-14 with a 1.071 OPS and .426 WPA. Bummer for Iannetta, but there were better days ahead.
During the 2009 offseason, Iannetta was awarded a 3-year, $8.35M (with a $5M 4th year option) contract to solidify his status with the Rockies, and hopefully his head as well. Yorvit Torrealba opted to try for Free Agency, turning down nearly $6M/2years with Colorado (there are conflicting reports about this) and only found a 1-year deal with San Diego for $1.25M(with a $3.5M mutual option). In the meantime, the Rockies signed Miguel Olivo to a 1-year, $2.5M(with a $2.5M club option) deal in hopes of having another excellent catching platoon for the season.
As we've seen too often from Iannetta, he tumbled out of the gate in 2010, posting a paltry 40 wRC+ while Miguel Olivo claimed the job, passed a kidney stone mid-game, and put up a 144 wRC+ in April. Olivo continued to tear the cover off of the ball (147 wRC+ in May) while Iannetta found himself demoted to AAA Colorado Springs, ostensibly to "fix a hole in his swing", or something, but some sources seemed to indicate that Iannetta needed consistent playing time, and he wasn't going to get it with the heat Olivo was hitting with residing in Denver.
As Rob Neyer put it (with a little help from Jack Moore), "Jack's probably right, though. Iannetta will go to C-Springs and hit, and Olivo will play more and won't hit, and everything in the world will seem right again. These things happen, and usually they're forgotten within a few months."
Well, much to Iannetta's chagrin, things DIDN'T change, and Olivo put up 4/6 months of above-average batting, not to mention threw out everyone trying to run on him and their little dog, too. This is obviously a fantastic thing for the Rockies, as having a solid batting catcher behind the plate is NOT a problem - don't think that's even a suggestion. The problem is just for Iannetta - when he hit his hot streak in June and July, Olivo was still batting very acceptably - well, even - and there was just no way that Iannetta was going to find himself behind the plate for any bigger slice of the playing pie.
So here we are with less than 2 weeks left in the major league season and I'm guessing Miguel Olivo is going to start roughly all of those games. There are certainly cases to be made for both players, but I like to point out a couple of things:
First, another chart

Secondly, this simple fact: Since Iannetta's return from AAA Colorado Springs, Iannetta has posted a .791 OPS (.227/.344/.447), and Miguel Olivo has posted a .706 OPS (.263/.297/.409). When you consider Olivo's April, May, June, and July, it really tells you how poor that August was, and how September is continuing to be pretty bad.
So going forward, my obvious reaction is to start Iannetta, simultaneously because I'm a big fanboy and the fact that Iannetta's 1.071 OPS (over a whopping 14PA) in September trumps Olivo's .662 OPS (54PA), along with that OPS split. Right now, the story on the surface is that Iannetta still has the calf strain that took him out a week or so ago.
So my next question is WHY is Olivo still the starter? A miserable, miserable August and a poor September typically has a manager looking for anything to throw against the wall that'll stick. Honestly, Olivo isn't really sticking. Would Iannetta stick? Hard to say.
In the month of September, Olivo is also posting a .333 BABIP, which would suggest that his already poor batting numbers could drop even further (potentially - in a small sample it's hard to really talk about numbers levelling out, but the thought is that his .662 OPS is "inflated", given his lack of walks). On the flip side, Iannetta's 1.071 OPS is almost DEFLATED by a .250 BABIP, suggesting that if a couple more hits drop, he'd be even more productive. Again, small sample, but it's something to take into consideration - Olivo isn't terribly likely to get hotter, but Iannetta "is", if analysis of BABIP regression has anything to say about it.
Which brings me to my next point, BABIP. The standard issue response to a low or high BABIP is basically "well that's going to normalize" and make a player's production even better or worse than it currently is. That's been one of the major defenses for Iannetta's low BA, that his BABIP is so low that there's no way he's going to keep batting as poorly as he is, that given consistent playing time, he'll come around. In Iannetta's defense, he DID show those signs of improvement with regular playing time while down in AAA (in 2010), posting a .349/.447/.698 line, showing inflated power, but even more interesting, a .500 BABIP (possibly inflated by a lot of walks and home runs). Proof? Not really, it's AAA. But it is proof that he's capable of doing SOMETHING and more or less belongs in the majors.
Take a look at Iannetta's career numbers, year to year.

Batting average is far from everything, but it's definitely the fuel to the OPS machine. Low batting averages are certainly excusable, especially by me, when bolstered by high BB% and solid ISO, but that's just it - they're supplemental aspects of the game. What's strange to think about is the fact that Iannetta is walking at a rate right around his career norm, hitting for slightly less power, but not low enough that we'd consider it a power outage, and his AVG/BABIP are basically circling the drain.
Iannetta has always had trouble as an extreme flyball hitter. While it isn't that terribly awful in hitters' parks, he's definitely not hitting the ball on a line like we'd like to see.

Strange how in 2010, Iannetta has drastically decreased his FB% from 2009 to land more in his career line, but his GB% has never been higher, and his LD% has never been lower. There's a correlation between LD% and BABIP (as line drives tend to fall for hits more often than fly balls or ground balls), which could explain the declining BABIP issues, but what really has caught my eye is that GB%. Iannetta has no wheels whatsoever, so those ground balls aren't likely to become hits anytime soon.
But why such a drastic increase in groundballs and decrease in flyballs? Has he fixed his swing, and is just getting unlucky? I seriously doubt it, as his LD% is lower in 2010 than any other point in his career. But grounders? Didn't we figure that Iannetta would just keep punching flyouts everywhere and be generally disappointing. But that assumption means that his plate approach is the same.
One of the complaints about Iannetta's plate approach has been lack of aggressiveness (aggression?), that'd he'd wait for the perfect pitch and let too many hittable pitches go by, and as a result, strike out, walk, or hit a fly ball to nowhere. Well, where is he today?
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Year |
Swing% |
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2006 |
48.8% |
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2007 |
46.2% |
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2008 |
44.0% |
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2009 |
45.4% |
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2010 |
45.2% |
Hm. So nothing has changed, apparently. Or has it? Let's dig a little deeper.

Hoo boy.
If we look at the numbers here, Iannetta is swinging at more balls outside of the zone than he ever has in his career, and the strangest thing is that he's making more contact on balls out of the zone as well. Not a complete answer, but making contact on pitches outside of the zone when you're not a Yogi-Berra-esque bad-ball hitter isn't going to be much of a chance for success. Probably won't get too much solid contact, and there's also a distinct chance you'll just roll over it and...GROUND OUT.
The upside is that along with the increased O-Contact%, his Z-Contact is up as well, suggesting he's putting bat on more strikes, which SHOULD lead to more hits. Part of the lack of hits is explainable by a low BABIP, which is then explained by a lot of swinging at pitches outside of the zone and not hitting them for line drives, which is sort of circular, but it does explain the declining average somewhat.
There's still good to be taken out of Iannetta. A 98 wRC+ catcher is nothing to be sneezed at, when you consider that Jason Kendall and Henry Blanco are out there lurking somewhere.
Part of me still feels like the organization has mishandled Iannetta. Twice he has been benched in a September playoff chase despite outbatting his competition. Twice he's been demoted to AAA, and twice he's returned to destroy the baseball.

The two lowest points there are his demotion points, and as soon as he returned he mashed. You know, when he got playing time. At the same time, I can see how a manager might not be terribly willing to start a catcher who was demoted midseason, either, but that would be accusing a manager of holding a grudge. The .100 OPS swing from Iannetta to Olivo (post callup) is kind of hard to ignore though. Iannetta's posted a substantially better OBP and SLG, but is batting about .030 below Olivo, as far as AVG goes. I really don't know what else to say on the topic of playing time. Apparently the threat of Olivo's arm is still potent enough to keep Iannetta on the bench. Or his calf or something.
It seems pretty apparent that Jim Tracy is going to start Miguel Olivo the rest of the way down the stretch. This leads me to wonder what there is to be done with Chris Iannetta. With a capable defensive backup in Michael McKenry more or less ready to go, posting a AAA batting line of .265/.328/.424, or at least to keep the seat warm until Wilin Rosario is ready for Major League action - which could be awhile yet - it seems like Iannetta might not be a solid fit for Colorado anymore.
Despite the contract and the lip service and such, Iannetta hasn't entirely stepped up to the plate, so to speak. We've seen a decline in wRC+ since his breakout 2008 (which in itself may have been somewhat BABIP inflated), and given the evidence we've seen above, it's really hard to just say "but but peripherals!" Frankly, I think he's still a solid addition to any team that he plays for (seriously, a career 106 wRC+? I can't imagine a team that wouldn't leap at that - you know, except the Twins and Braves), but Iannetta can't seem to catch a break in Colorado. He hits his cold streaks right when the other catcher is getting hot, and then when he gets hot again he can't buy an AB. Or when he gets hot he then comes down with a calf injury and once again becomes a non-option for playing time.
I think Chris Iannetta is still a very talented catcher, and a good one, even. He's one of my favorites for a reason, I didn't just draw his name out of a hat. Not a lot of players in MLB have the ability to draw a walk like Iannetta, and not a lot of players can club an ISO like Iannetta can, either. The problem is that there are a lot of players who can post a sub-.240 batting average with extreme non-LD% as well. It all adds up to Iannetta being a near-league-average bat, and anyone who refuses to play a league-average bat at Catcher when the alternative is inferior is either loopy or there's something going on that isn't being talked about.
If Chris Iannetta could just put things together again, he'd be a top-5 catcher, and I'm willing to stand on that still.
I just can't see it happening with the Colorado Rockies.
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Very well done.
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A lot to take in
And all very interesting and well done. I disagree on some points, obviously, but I won’t re-start battles long since fought.
My dead horse is simply that the Iannetta issue must be related to off-field issues. And the media has simply not done anything to uncover what might be going on, so I am left to pure speculation. But it is evident that Tracy does not trust him, at all, and Hurdle didn’t really either. Add to that the fact that DOD has evidently not done anything to force the issue himself — to the contrary, he tried to re-up Yorvit at way above market and signed Olivo to a big deal — indications DOD doesn’t have any interest in “forcing” Tracy’s hand here.
I hope CDI takes the bull by the horns next year and blows up. Olivo’s cliff-dive suggests that he cannot be trusted going to next year. CDI fairly deserves a(nother) shot. But I’ll believe it when I see it.
And the biggest problem of all: I doubt he has the trade value to make it worthwhile. Maybe there’s some GM out there buying everything you’re selling above, but even so its probably not enough to raise his value to “even money.” I imagine we take a bath if we trade him.
Oh well, will be interesting to watch to see how it plays out.
by Teekalong on Sep 22, 2010 12:58 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
"related to off field issues"
Agree and am quite puzzled by what issues could be soooo terrible to keep from giving him playing time. Everyone keeps saying it’s a business etc., so why not do the old"platoon" thing that Tracy promised at the beginning of the season. I know several on here are tired of my opinions, but screw you….he has a right to a fair shake !
Ianetta just baffles me
I completely agree that he has the tools to be a top 5 catcher in the league. I keep waiting for the switch to flip on or his confidence to soar or something cliched like that but it still hasn’t happened. At this point, I would seriously consider moving him if we got a nice package back, letting Olivo be our main guy next year in hopes that Rosario is ready sometime 2012.
There is no way I want to move Iannetta this offseason
Why sell low on a guy we believe could be at top 5 catcher? That makes no sense to me. As RMN discussed in the article, it hasn’t clicked for Iannetta the last two years but we know the potential is there; in fact we’ve seen it in 2008. I think Iannetta’s numbers will only go up from 2010 so I say hang on to him. Just because things have broken as bad as they possibly could have for him the last two year’s doesn’t mean they will again next year.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
It's not completely selling low
Because there’s a lot of teams that still believe in him like we do. We won’t get top dollar but at the same time we won’t get 5 cent to the dollar. However, if CDI takes another dump in 2011, you can bet his trade value will then be around zero. It’s great having potential, it’s actually fulfilling it that matters.
As I said though, I’m seriously consider it if the package was attractive. I wouldn’t just dump him for a middle reliever or something similar.
Jed Lowrie?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 22, 2010 2:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually I think that's a trade that could actually happen
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not really a big Lowrie fan
If CDI did go to the Red Sox I’d probably ask for Rizzo preferably, but if not, Anderson and an arm who’s far away.
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by Jeff Aberle on Sep 22, 2010 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Hammel pitched Sunday and Tuesday?
LoDo Magic, Tulo's Mullet or The Ghost of Seth Smith's beard - call it what you will but it is neither unimpressive or unsustainable!
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Sunday was all on Tracy
nice article, but managing 101 should say, you don’t start a catcher who has not caught for your starting pitcher in a pennant race. Phillips offensive numbers did not dictate starting over Iannetta and Ianetta was physically fine. Chris is getting a raw deal and I don’t understand it.
From Renck today
Tracy on Iannetta. He’s available to hit. Still easing back into catching
So three days after the fact they are still easing him back into catching. I’m not sure Iannetta starting on Sunday was really an option.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
he's been catching his entire life, what is there to "ease back into"
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You'll have to ask Renck
Also, that’s today he’s available to hit. Who knows what he was available to do Sunday.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Tracy has no intention of staring CDI ever again
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*starting
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Well, it was a calf injury. Think about how a catcher moves all game. It's not 2B or RF we're talking about here
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Well
that seems to me to say that he was not healthy enough to start. Which has been the obvious conclusion all along. No question that CDI gets odd treatment, but the conspiracy that he was “dissed” for Phillips seems inane to me. This plotline is along the lines of SF/humidor nonsense. Not as bad, but same kinda stuff.
To compare the issue of CDI not starting with the humidor conspiracy is just ludicrous.
Clearly, there is something Tracy does not like about CDI, be it play or personality or whatever.
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Yeah, I obviously discuss that above
but that’s not the issue here. The vibe from you and others is that Tracy is actively harming his team’s chances of winning in a pennant race to fulfill some sort of personal vendetta. It makes no sense at all, and if its true, suggests that all of our coaches and GM are complicit in allowing it to happen, and that essentially our organization is incredibly dumb. Nevermind the lack of ANY evidence to support it, the lack of any rumblings from players or media, and the very obvious fact that he was hurt, etc. This is purely a construction of the prevailing Tracy-hate and seems to be nothing more than setting up a pretext for offseason Tracy-bashing if we come up short in September. And, of course, is also just a re-hash of the argument from last year.
Really, bang on his management (Sunday) all you want, bang on his overall use of CDI or others, all fair and subject to debate. But the current tinfoil-hat vibe that seems to be brewing is beneath us.
by Teekalong on Sep 22, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I never said he thinks he's hurting the team
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Disregard this post.....
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wow...ignore my post immediately above
I’m seeing things…
Sorry Muzia, I totally was confused on the order of the posts…
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and I had a perfect analogy about me "believing" I was attractive versus actually "being" attractive all lined up and ready to go
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there, there, buck up young camper!
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I never said that Tracy was intentionally harming the teams chances.
I think Tracy is short-sighted and doesn’t trust CDI, for whatever reasons. Does he expect Chris to be a fistpumpy, emotional player? Does he expect something else that we don’t see? This is not an extension of Tracy-hate.
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I think you made giant leap ffrom the comments made
to Tracy hate. Perhaps you should adjust your tin foil hat, for better reception! :)
About the tin foil hat adjustment? No, she's right.
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I wish we would have just won Sunday's game and didn't have to keep thinking about all the ways we could have won it
The sting of that loss has shelf life. (Philips starting and extending the 4th inning on what should have been a strikeout, Tulo’s terrible day, EY’s no bunt and injury, the entire offense going to sleep, the blown save….ect) It still hurts.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions
No doubt
if we ultimately come up short, that game is the first thing that will come to my mind.
Braves DP game still stands out
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If we finish one game behind Atlanta that's gonna be a tough pill to swallow
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
two games even
Had that game gone the other way, it would turn a two game deficit into a tie. Its looking likely that we will lament that game and forever hate Jeff Nelson
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 22, 2010 2:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Everybody had a bad day on the same day.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 22, 2010 3:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
But the problem was that everybody had a bad day on the same day after being up 6-1 against a lousy team. If we would have just played terrible the whole game and lost 8-0 or something like that then you could chalk it up as a bad day, but that being up 6-1 creates this overwhelming feeling that we choked one away and derailed our momentum train.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions
You keep saying "Sunday was all on Tracy"
And you’re as wrong today as you were yesterday and Monday.
Paul Phillips is a professional catcher with ML experience. Given Iannetta’s injury, there was nothing unreasonable about starting Phillips.
It’s not Tracy’s fault that a lineup of major league hitters couldn’t muster more than three hits off the LA Dodgers in nine innings.
Jim Tracy did not blow the double play call in the 11th inning.
I could go on….
Just fess up that you have a personal bone to pick with Jim Tracy, for some unfathomable reason, and get it over with.
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this place is so hard to navigate.....
If you push the “up” link that is next to reply – it will scroll up to the comment the poster is replying to.
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Well, we went through that exact same argument last night
And it pisses me off a bit that he continues to insist Sunday was entirely Tracy’s fault. I guess it was Jim Tracy playing SS when those two entirely unforgivable errors were made.
I get pissed off when dumbass internet posters and mouthbreathing Denver Post commentors try to make Jim Tracy or the Monforts the scapegoat for 2010. All that does is reveal both their bias, and their complete ignorance of baseball.
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I have a bias against our manager
but I’ve tried to mitigate it.
by Andrew Martin on Sep 22, 2010 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, no one would accuse you of being willfully ignorant of anything
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I would.
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You are willfully ignorant
that this is a conspiracy by the Red Sox to steal CDI away from us – they are actually paying him under the table to suck – so they can get him to play for them.
All the signs are there RMN – you just gotta dig a little deeper.
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and obviously
Jim Tracy is in on it – and this is the reason we lost the WS in 07.
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This makes me sad.
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by prettyinpurple on Sep 22, 2010 3:07 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I understand
I truly was lost because so much happened between posts.I didn’t mean to offend. Thanks Maria, for helping me navigate. Does anyone have a seeing eye dog I can borrow?
Oh and nice write up RMN
I’m not sure how much stock we can put into Iannetta’s 1.077 OPS this month since he only has 14 plate appearances but I agree with your overall point that he should start more (once he gets healthy) especially when you consider what he has done in his career in September.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:08 PM MDT reply actions
Tantalyzingly talented
Ultimately disappointing
Tough luck
Consistently at by the underdog
Performs out of his mind when people stop believing
Performs horrifically when big things are expected
Capable of flipping a switch in September and playing out his mind
Sound like any other player you know? Or maybe, perhaps, the WHOLE FREAKING 2010 TEAM?!
Sadly, it might be beneficial to exorcise this demonic antichristian from the clubhouse. He has seeped into the whole team
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 22, 2010 2:34 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Wonderful article, RMN
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Is it possible that almost all of Iannetta's struggles the last couple of years could be due to bad luck?
I looked deeper into his BABIP numbers and from 06-08 his BABIP was .303 while it’s just .236 in 09-10 combined. That .67 point drop off seems enormous to me and almost has to jump back up. (Maybe not to .303 but .236 is ridiculously unlucky for any player over a two year period)
If a bounce back in BABIP occurs, then Iannetta should easily be an .800 + OPS and 100+ wRC+ guy. Is that something we really want to give up on?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 22, 2010 3:27 PM MDT reply actions
interesting...
I thought RMN did a good job discussing his BABIP several times in the article…
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much of his babip drop in 2009 was trading line drives for line drives
He cut his fly balls a bit this year, only to replace them with groundballs. I should calculate his xBABIP when I get a chance. He has been unlucky, but he has profiled as a low babip hitter the last two years, and luck can’t help all of that.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 22, 2010 3:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
2009 = line drives for fly balls
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 22, 2010 3:53 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Finally someone gets it!
Chris’ xBABIP is in the .320 range.
Seriously, I’ve been driven to the brink of insanity over the past year+ over the Rockies handling of Chris. Some of the comments I’ve seen on the web have only helped. Sadly very few people in CO seem to understand that Chris is actually a pretty good player, and probably a major offensive force if that BABIP becomes even close to normal. I’ve written about Chris a few times on my (infrequently updated) blog milehighnumbers.blogspot.com (sorry had to get the plug in). Anyway, keep up the good work. It’s good to see other like minded Rockies fans are out there.
It just depends your definition of giving up
I don’t believe trading someone is giving up on them if you get value back for them. Like if you asked would I trade CDI for a 1B who’s likely to be above-average and making peanuts for the next 5 years? I might say yes, simply because of Rosario in the system. It’s more of an reallocation of assets as opposed to just giving up on the guy. Granted, catchers are extremely difficult to forecast (ie. Texas Rangers catchers) so maybe it’s smarter to hang onto CDI.
I love Iannetta. I think he has a very good skill set with his ability to draw walks and ISO power. However, if the value to fill another hole on the team is there, I’d certainly contemplate it, I’d think about any potential deal that could help the team. If Chris has another bad year in 2011 though, any value he owns will be gone (see Jarod Saltacan’tspellhislastnamechia).
you were "lamac" short and ended up typing like 30 words
good work.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 22, 2010 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
And yes, I purposely omitted the "la" in his name. Why? Because SCREW LA.
by TChizza on Sep 22, 2010 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
/standing O
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I hate Iannetta just a little less than Tulo and Belisle.
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