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Saturday Rockpile: Rockies' underclassmen ready to step up for seasons to come - thanks to Dan O'Dowd

That headline is totally in honor of the start of the college football season, but it certainly applies to the Rockies for the next few years, so I'm not backing off of it.

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Flexo (The PHX): How screwed are the Rockies? Tracy's a strategy/game management imbecile (and apparently not magic! Who knew?). O'Dowd has now failed to trade 3 players (Baker, Atkins, Hawpe) when their value was high, preferring to allow them to decline to the point where they had zero value. But don't worry...they both got big extensions!
Keith Law: Tracy really killed them over the last two games, between the absurd loyalty to Olivo and lots of bad in-game management (the CS in Tuesday's game comes to mind).

Really, Flexo? Jeff Baker? Also, I won't discuss the Jim Tracy portion of this, but I don't see why people don't consider all of the good things that Dan O'Dowd has done - especially over the past decade. Instead, it's "FUUUUUUHHHHH O'CLOWN CHEAPFARTS DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR." Look, regardless of what happens in 2010, this team still has a core in place (Troy Tulowitzki, Carlos Gonzalez, Ubaldo Jimenez, Jhoulys Chacin, etc.) that will almost single-handedly keep it in playoff contention through 2014. Add a couple of pieces here and there, which overall, O'Dowd has done a nice job of doing, and you're looking at a World Series contender. Can O'Dowd do a better job of identifying when to sell high on a player? Sure, but I also don't think you can argue a whole lot against his approach thus far because, barring a complete collapse, the team is about to complete its third winning season in four years - a track record of success this franchise has never seen before. So, give the front office a break, stop trying to play GM, and sit back and enjoy the ride you're about to experience for another 3-4 years.

In addition, I'm not a big Olivo guy, and his awful second half has been a trend throughout his career, but I find myself disagreeing just a tad with Law...

Miguel Olivo Is Happy August Is Over | FanGraphs Baseball
...about Olivo's playing time. Sure, he's been bad lately, but after reading this, I realize that his body of work has been above-average. Iannetta is the better option going forward, but it's not like it should be considered a crime for Olivo to get starts (although walking ONCE in August - and the fact that it was intentional - may be a crime). Man, I keep going back and forth on this issue...stupid catcher wars.

Sinking feeling has Padres fans unnerved - SignOnSanDiego.com
The sky is falling in San Diego. Let's hope the Rockies get out of there (with a sweep, preferably, but two of three would suffice) before it completely comes down.

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A big round of applause for Jason Giambi's.....

DEFENSE!! Yes…..he made two GREAT plays on defense last night. Very surprising but very nice at the same time.

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by jpage78 on Sep 4, 2010 9:57 AM MDT reply actions  

There's really nothing more to be said here

The man stepped up on both sides of the ball, and it made all the difference.

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by Paleface Destro on Sep 4, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Weird.

I had a dream WolfMarauder tried to trick us again with fake links in the Rockpile: he put Star Wars links.
Yeah, weird, I know.

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 4, 2010 10:12 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Hmm...

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 4, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow. All 19 Padres fans are unnerved.

Too bad for them.

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by trekinaz on Sep 4, 2010 10:45 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

They should be the Rockies and Diamondbacks..

have the best record in the NL West over the past 10, 20, 30 games.

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by Charlie77 on Sep 4, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the fact that we're the one team that's been able to figure out the Padres consistently this season

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HEAR YE: Tremble (with laughter) at the sight of Sir Preening Fauxhawk, BS, of the Clan of the Great Pumpkin
Jason Hammel, Unsung Hero warns us all: Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)!

by Paleface Destro on Sep 4, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, except for the one who has the "Mission October" sign

Though he probably thinks it’s a historical site near the ballpark or something.

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HEAR YE: Tremble (with laughter) at the sight of Sir Preening Fauxhawk, BS, of the Clan of the Great Pumpkin
Jason Hammel, Unsung Hero warns us all: Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)!

by Paleface Destro on Sep 4, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about making a CarGo MVP sign.

Or “Our Gonzalez is better than your Gonzalez:”, but thought I might bring on some unwarranted anger.
Plus the friend I’m going with is a Padre fan….

But I do have on a lovely purple t-shirt :)

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by SDcat09 on Sep 4, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think there'd be anger.

They’d probably wonder why you’re talking about the Chargers at a base-ball game.

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by Paleface Destro on Sep 4, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Do it do it!!

“OuR Gonzalez” hee hee.

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 4, 2010 11:47 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

What's tough about this team, is the age differential..

Half of the starters are 30+:
Helton 36
Olivo 31
Barmes 31
Spilly 30

And the other half are 25ish, and will be moving on to the AL East by 2014:
Tulo 25
Caber 25
Dex 24
CarGo 24

Iannetta and Seth are 27, but are they really starters? Then in 2014 we start with a new class of Parkers, Tagos, Matzeks, etc.

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by Charlie77 on Sep 4, 2010 11:05 AM MDT reply actions  

I wouldn't really call Barmes a starter at this point

and he won’t be next year.

Spilly’s always been a spot starter only.

So I don’t think it’s quite right to say half the lineup is over 30.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Sep 4, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

uploading Matzek videos as we speak

piecing together Arenado video next.

Quick question. Of the following remaining Asheville players I filmed, who would you most like to see uploaded this weekend?

Nina, Mesa, Massey, Musick, Wong, Cleary

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by Muzia on Sep 4, 2010 11:20 AM MDT reply actions  

in order

Cleary’, Mesa, Wong, Massey, Nina, Musick

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 4, 2010 11:46 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

MESA

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 4, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'd personally like Musick, as he's the player on that list I haven't seen in person yet

but since I have seen the rest, you probably shouldn’t take my vote into consideration as much as you do other users.

by Rox Girl on Sep 4, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Cleary!

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 4, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Rockies - Please beat the dreaded Dodgers
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by SDcat09 on Sep 4, 2010 11:31 AM MDT reply actions  

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!

Dear Rockies - Please beat the dreaded Dodgers
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act. I'm going to miss you most of all! Good luck with the Rays!
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by SDcat09 on Sep 4, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just thought I'd get that in now, since I'll be at the game

Dear Rockies - Please beat the dreaded Dodgers
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by SDcat09 on Sep 4, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rox Lineup

EYJr.
Fowler
CarGo
Tulo
Toddfather
MelMo
Seth
CDI
Hammel

by CentralCaliRox on Sep 4, 2010 11:54 AM MDT reply actions  

Wow got a road lineup without Barmes or Olivo.

Took long enough

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by Neclord56 on Sep 4, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting Pads Lineup

Venable 8
Eckstein 4
Ludwick 9
Gonzalez 3
Headley 5
Denorfia 7
Hundley 2
Cabrera 6
Garland 1.

Very different from what we saw yesterday.

by CentralCaliRox on Sep 4, 2010 11:59 AM MDT reply actions  

At some point,

Every manager will pull the “we just have to shake things up” card. Most times, it does nothing.

by roxintober on Sep 4, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

But but...MATCHUPZ

Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
HEAR YE: Tremble (with laughter) at the sight of Sir Preening Fauxhawk, BS, of the Clan of the Great Pumpkin
Jason Hammel, Unsung Hero warns us all: Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)!

by Paleface Destro on Sep 4, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

well, they don't know it's a ten game losing streak yet.

They’re still thinking they have the power to stop it at eight for some reason.

by Rox Girl on Sep 4, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Poor, misguided souls that they are

Paleface Destro, Infield Butcher: Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
HEAR YE: Tremble (with laughter) at the sight of Sir Preening Fauxhawk, BS, of the Clan of the Great Pumpkin
Jason Hammel, Unsung Hero warns us all: Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)!

by Paleface Destro on Sep 4, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreement

Although some of Tracy’s moves are suspect he and O’Dowd have shown integrity by remaining loyal and giving their players (even slumping players) the opportunity to succeed, even when trading them might be the wiser move. This attitude from the top down has given the players a sense of family and togetherness and is one of the reasons they don’t give up or point fingers.

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by SomethgPurple on Sep 5, 2010 10:42 AM MDT reply actions  

I think that's a slightly rose-tinted view

And clubhouse solidarity just isn’t worth playing sub-optimal players. And of course Tracy’s inconsistency of lineup this season means that while the roster may stay roughly the same, the players stepping onto the field aren’’t.

by biondino on Sep 5, 2010 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

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