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Monday Rockpile: Awwww Snap, there it goes again

Welcome to Labor Day, the day when our nation celebrates having jobs by not going to them.

Here are a list of players who should be incredibly thankful for their jobs (to which they are contractually bound - well, at least to the compensation):

C Miguel Olivo: .140/.155/.158 in the month of August. Seriously, abysmal. So abysmal we're not the only ones who noticed it. But good news, he's started off September by going 2-12. That's good, right?

2B Clint Barmes: .132/.203/.151 during the dog days. Oof. That explains Eric Young Jr.'s amount of playing time, right? Well, Barmes is 2-7 in September with 3 walks.

1B Jason Giambi: .105/.217/.158 - at least he's walking. That'll boost production from 1B. He's 2-7 with a dinger and a walk in September.

LF Seth Smith: .115/.193/.269 - he hit 2 dingers! woooooo! Way to grab that extra playing time by the short hairs, Seth. Looks like it rattled him a bit, and he's 3-10 in September.

C Chris Iannetta: I don't think it's possible to bat worse than Olivo's August line, and yet Olivo still got more playing time. Not that Iannetta's .163/.288/.186 line actually warranted any more playing time. He's 2-9 with a bomb in the stretch. Jim Tracy has to be pulling his hair out by now. In a mild-mannered way, of course.

2B Eric Young Jr.: Oh right, the experiment thing. .242/.296/.273 isn't going to win you a lot more starts, especially when you're striking out more than normal and not walking (you know, bad things from your leadoff hitter). Going 2-13 in September has me wondering why the organization doesn't want Nelson playing more. I mean, come on, the guy is 1-1 and OPSing 2.000!

I'd pick on the pitching staff, but honestly, nobody was otherworldly bad in August, and I'm pretty sure that Phillies game wrecked everyone's lines for September (except Chacin of course).

So now that we've gotten all of the crappy play our of our systems, we're all set to have another magical run, right?

....right?

September 2007 (yep, I'm making this comparison) started out with Colorado winning 3 straight series in-division (Arizona, San Francisco, San Diego) en route to Rocktober magic. I figure now that the guys have had all of the terrible beaten out of them by now, all that's left is good clutch awesome execution with small ball and 3 run dingers right when you need them and big strikeouts and perfectly turned double plays. That's what September is all about. Also, the Rockies will be buying everyone a pony. Granted, it's a small plastic pony that goes with the small plastic cowboys and indians playset (lousy Cheapfarts), but it's more pony than we got at the trade deadline. (Am I mixing my analogies here? Whatever, roll with it.)

It's a really confusing time right now for a lot of Rockies fans, because we want to believe in the team, we want to think there's a bottle of Liquid Schwartz hidden in the glove compartment, but like I've said a million times before, you can't plan for magic, it just happens, and after a lot of the stanky play we watched in August, it's not unreasonable to not have much faith. My stance is "Realistically and with a balanced tone, I think the 2010 Rockies will fall short of the postseason; that said, this team also has an entire village of wish-granting gnomes underneath Coors Field that will push them farther than their own play possibly could" and I'm sticking to it (there's a distinct chance that "gnomes" could easily change to "leprechauns" or "tax accountants" - well, at least until some fool leaks the Rockies' financial statements). Remember, if wishes were horses, we could open our own dog food company run by beggars and the embodiment of Todd Helton's .958 OPS August.

I seriously have no idea where this is going, so I'll just quote our good friend frightenedinmate#2:

Go Rockies

Star-divide

There's not much for news yet, so I'll just go ahead and paste in MLB.com's Rockies beat report:

Mora playing with energy, vigor of youngster || Thomas Harding, MLB.com

something something Versatility something something Vitality something something Small-Sample splits

More importantly, Carlos Gonzalez' MVP potential is discussed, along with Manny Delcarmen's DESTINY. Seriously, DESTINY. If Carlos Gonzalez can't out-hit Omar Freaking Infante, he should be selling hotdogs in Tulsa or something. Just awful.

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Time to make a run

(for the the hundredth time) for real this time

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 7:41 AM MDT reply actions  

Destiny: also known as history read backwards.

Or as Ambrose Bierce put it in the Devil’s Dictionary:

DESTINY, n. A tyrant’s authority for crime and fool’s excuse for failure.

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by Russ Oates on Sep 6, 2010 7:49 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Cargo for President!

Thankfully, in spite of the struggles Olivo, Iannetta, Barmes, Smith, Giambi, and EY2, we do have the dark horse MVP candidate that is Cargo. I truly think he’s carried us these past few months in a way that Ubaldo carried us for the first half of the season.

I can’t believe is how ridiculous Cargo has been over the past 2 months. Since that All Star snub (which was reasonable back then since he was competing with Votto for that final spot), he’s been en fuego. His OPS since the start of July is over 1.150! And despite his apparent weakness for not taking walks, his OBP over that time period is solidly over .400.

And for all of the talk about Pujols and Votto competing for the Triple Crown, Cargo is subtly turning himself into a third contender for that crown. He leads batting average by nearly 16 points and he’s only 3 RBI and 4 HR’s off the NL lead right now. What particularly impressive about that is those 44 games he played as our leadoff guy. If he was our 3 spot hitter, I believe Carlos would own 2/3 of the Triple Crown right now.

Considering that his OPS for September so far (with an admittedly small sample size) is around 1.580, is anyone else really excited about his Triple Crown prospects? We have 3 more road series (including on in AZ) left so Cargo is going to be seeing a lot of Coors for this last month. If his amazing hot streak continues for a little while longer, it seems possible (though he’s going to need to hit homers in bunches to make up that margin). And he will likely be going for it while carrying the Rox’s playoff hopes on his back.

by GalarragaForever on Sep 6, 2010 7:50 AM MDT reply actions  

But but but

LOLCOORZ

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"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

you don't think that they would put a LOLCOORZ detractor on those too?

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

The problem with the HR is not the amount, but the number of players ahead of him. He’d actually be more likely to make up 8 home runs against 1 player than 4 homers against 4 players – 1 player can slump, but with 4, the odds are very good that at least one of them will hit HRs at a higher rate than CarGo, especially as the 4 ahead of him are all premier HR hitters. Even if you assume that the average expectation for him is 8 HR over the remaining 26 games, which is extremely generous, you’re still only looking about a 1-in-5 shot that he can win the HR crown.

The odds of any of the three are getting pretty long. Infante makes the BA task very difficult for Votto and especially Pujols and the amount of HR competition makes it a longshot for CarGo.

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by D.Szymborski on Sep 6, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't care what anyone says Infante will not get to 502 AB.

4.55 per game even from the leadoff position will be tough. And he has to keep his average up through those ABs

by Roxfan24 on Sep 6, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have to reach 502 PA

If he hits well the rest of the season and falls short of that number, they will just add an ofer to the number of PAs he needs. Theoretically, his average could be high enough to sustain that ofer and be awarded the batting title.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 6, 2010 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Didn't they do that with

Chipper Jones the year he won the batting title?

I feel like they did that with someone fairly recently…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tony Gwynn did it in 1996 (he was 4 PA short of 502).

1910’s still the weirdest batting title race. On the last day of the season, there was controversy over an error by Bobby Wallace and the Browns GM tried to convince the official scorer to change it to a hit.

Cobb won the title, but eventually, it was discovered that Cobb had been credited with two extra hits during the season that never happened and Lajoie had actually won the batting title.

Baseball refused to acknowledge the two hits didn’t happen because that would have both messed up Cobb’s consecutive batting title streak and moved the well-known 4191 to 4189, so Rose’s record-breaking hit didn’t happen when it did. MLB’s pretty much the last source for Cobb having 4191 (people running databases generally really dislike when data is determined by political decisions rather than best information).

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by D.Szymborski on Sep 6, 2010 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

wow.

that’s phenomenal. I love hearing and reading about baseball way back. Fascinating study.

What brings you around the Rockpile today?

by Andrew Martin on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Been doing a lot of work with Triple Crown stuff lately, so I’m naturally drawn to discussions on the subject!

And a correction, it was the Browns manager that tried to get the scoring changed. Bad memory.

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by D.Szymborski on Sep 6, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

No joke, probably most problems anywhere can be traced to

making decisions off of politics rather than best information.

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

If it leads to a political discussion, however, I fully grant all the regulars the right to punch me in the face once.

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by D.Szymborski on Sep 6, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol don't worry

the decision to punch you in the face will only be made if there’s sufficient information suggesting to do so.

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Going back to start of August, Infante’s had 4.6 PA/game and hasn’t missed a single game. With him hitting 347/385/503 over that span and a playoff race, they’re surely not going to rest him until they have to. So assuming he plays every game, that’s about a 6 PA buffer – my model has him falling 7 PA short (since you can’t assume anyone’s going to play every single game) and having a 67% chance at the batting title.

It’s certainly possible, of course, but it’s a hard road for everyone – don’t mean to play the heavy.

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by D.Szymborski on Sep 6, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

plus Votto's remaining schedule is just as favorable, if not more

Seeing as his home games are at GABP and he has road trips to Coors, Miller Park and Minute Maid.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

just talking about HR's here, though

he’s evenly split, but the four stadiums I mention are all very HR friendly. Albeit, I’ll grant that the Rockies pitching staff is not at all HR friendly, even at Coors, but you can’t really say the same about Houston and Milwaukee’s staffs.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

this is why it would seem possible.

11 HR’s in 18 games at Coors since the ASB. At that pace he could put up another 9 or 10 at home in our remaining 16 games there.

Really, I think he has the best shot of the three for a triple crown, but I was playing the devil’s advocate as chances are very remote, even for him.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Also, and I don't know how much stock to put in this

but historically, Pujols has monster Septembers

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

also Ryan Howard

he’ll probably bat .500 and win the MVP with an inferior OPS/WAR to like 6 players.

by Andrew Martin on Sep 6, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

fact: no one can put a team on their back better than Ryan Howard

or something like that right?

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

He better for a $125 million contract that still doesn’t start for a whole year. I’m still shaking my head.

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by D.Szymborski on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Damn...you beat me to it. :)

So count me as someone who completely agrees with this sentiment.

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by Paleface Destro on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

that one still boggles my mind

Ruben Amaro Jr. is shooting up the list of “really dumb GMs”

can you imagine if they’d had the prospect load to somehow have a rotation of Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt, [doesn’t matter at this point]? They actually might have. I don’t think he’s even approaching the understanding of “window of opportunity” and he’s just “ooooh that guy’s good – let’s get him” /trades for Mike Sweeney

by Andrew Martin on Sep 6, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Giraffes are magic, and effin' rainbows.

And Albert Pujols can’t even outhit Omar Infante*. Maybe the whole National League should just quit now.

  • full disclosure: I picked up Infante in my fantasy league around the ASB as I needed infield help with Tulo down. It turned out to be a really good decision, so I may be a bit biased.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 8:05 AM MDT reply actions  

Gotta love when All-Stars are available at the All Star Break

Especially when they aren’t Lance Carter quality.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 6, 2010 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

As long as we are exchanging fantasy stories

CarGo’s two stolen bases yesterday swung the category for me, while Street’s save locked down two more in winning my league championship. Talk about clutch!

I take this as conclusive evidence that the Rockies will win the Division and go on to win the World Series.

To quote Brian Wilson:

“You’re Welcome”

by Jason Wells on Sep 6, 2010 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

The awesome thing is that Infante started playing like a star after being named an All-Star. Gives me hope that if someone calls me a billionaire, it will magically come true.

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by D.Szymborski on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

No one can suggest CarGo doesn't believe, either through his actions or words

From USAToday this morning:

“We all know that we have a very good chance to win everything,” says Rockies outfielder Carlos Gonzalez, the NL batting leader.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 6, 2010 8:20 AM MDT reply actions  

I loved the story about how he rolled his eyes at Kiszla

From the aforementioned’s column this morning.

“The word on the street, I told Gonzalez, was the Rockies were going nowhere because they had stunk on the road through the season.

CarGo replied by rolling his eyes."

Read more: Kiszla: Just watch CarGo go – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_16002186#ixzz0yl8wy8RN

by Jason Wells on Sep 6, 2010 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised Kiszla recognizes that as a non-verbal response.

You would think he’d see it often enough to think it a natural human tic that happens anytime someone sees him.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

just roll your eyes :-D

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"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow, a third day game in a row! Nice one, Labour Day.

Squeaky, you timed your move just right! And I have a night in tonight, so I shall be listening/watching and whooping for Ubaldo. Sweet!

by biondino on Sep 6, 2010 8:29 AM MDT reply actions  

I gotta love the ou in labor

British people are fun

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by Neclord56 on Sep 6, 2010 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

They also think football

is something that was played in S. Africa earlier this year

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Sep 6, 2010 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Metric spelling is awesome

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HEAR YE: Tremble (with laughter) at the sight of Sir Preening Fauxhawk, BS, of the Clan of the Great Pumpkin
Jason Hammel, Unsung Hero warns us all: Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)!

by Paleface Destro on Sep 6, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just one little point

In the UK we use imperial measurements by preference, though we are also legally obliged to use metric ones commercially. Personally I think in yards, stone, feet, ounces, fathoms, furlongs, chains, bushels, hundredweight, guineas and gills and only stoop to using metric when things are really really small (millimetre and below).

by biondino on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know that. I was simply referring to the different spelling of certain words.

Colour, honour, centre, etc. I’ve long referred to it (humorously) as “metric spelling”…just another way to get the job done. :)

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HEAR YE: Tremble (with laughter) at the sight of Sir Preening Fauxhawk, BS, of the Clan of the Great Pumpkin
Jason Hammel, Unsung Hero warns us all: Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)!

by Paleface Destro on Sep 6, 2010 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

This would totally rule

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HEAR YE: Tremble (with laughter) at the sight of Sir Preening Fauxhawk, BS, of the Clan of the Great Pumpkin
Jason Hammel, Unsung Hero warns us all: Beware The Black Heart of Eckstein(tm)!

by Paleface Destro on Sep 6, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

that would actually make me happy if you did that

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I've got the old Head vs. Heart thing going on

My head tells me, “They’re 4.5 back. There are TWO teams in front of them. They haven’t been able to win consistently all year. There are still question marks in the rotation, and the catchers and 2B’s can’t hit.”

But my heart says, “They did this once before. So did the Astros back in ‘05 and ’06. So did the frickin’ Mets a couple of times. And the Padres & Giants aren’t exactly the Yankees and Red Sox (uninjured version) to catch. It’s possible …”

Come on, Ubaldo. Make me a believer.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Sep 6, 2010 8:48 AM MDT reply actions  

There's really just one question mark in the rotation anymore

And with Francis coming back and Rogers in the wings, we’ve got several potential answers for it if the current solution proves untenable. The bullpen on the other hand, that’s suddenly something that’s making me a bit queasy.

With the Giants still on a road trip that likely won’t finish as well as it’s started, and with the Rockies at home, I think we make a move on them this week similar to the one we made on the Padres last week. I’m hoping to be in 2nd place, or at least close to it by Sunday. While I’d like SD to lose to LA, I’m sort of hoping the Padres right their ship by this weekend against SF. The D-backs have been a .500 team at home in the second half, although that includes an 0-4 sweep by the Giants at Chase in July. I guess I’m hoping the Giants come into this series overconfident and the Snakes come in with something to prove.

I guess what I’m saying is that despite being a game further back of SD, I’m seeing the Giants as the bigger threat to our chances right now and looking for help against them more.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I totally agree about the Giants

If Lincecum’s back up to snuff & Sanchez keeps pitching well, their rotation is better than the Padres. You don’t get 10 game losing streaks with 4 starting pitchers like the Giants have.

And I have to admit that the Giants’ “veteraniness” has some advantages down the stretch. They’re mostly veterans I’m not fond of — Huff, Burrell, Gulllen, Renteria, Uribe — but vets nonetheless. I’m hoping that the downsides of veteraniness — slowness on defense, injuries — burn them down the stretch. And I’ll never forget the last time a team acquired Huff for his veteran bat down the stretch. It was the ‘06 Astros, in one of the worst trades ever made (a 2-month rental of Huff for Ben Zobrist & MitchTalbot, now in the Indians’ rotation). The ‘Stros made an improbable late-season run & it boiled down to one game and one AB with RISP against the Braves. Huff whiffed. I’ve been on his case ever since. May he take the Giants down with him this year.

Mediocrity sucks

by Maris6161 on Sep 6, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Huff's been slumping pretty bad through August and the first week of September.

which was to be expected given how unsustainable his first three or four months with them were.

You bring up an interesting point about the double edged nature of that type of vet, and the Giants do have a lot of them. Fatigue seems like it would be a fairly big factor with them as not only do you have all the older players, but Buster Posey’s been starting a ton since they traded Molina, and the last two weeks he’s been showing some cracks from it with a .212 batting average.

Right now they’re riding on their pitching and the hitting of Freddy Sanchez, Uribe and Sandoval. They’re vulnerable, at least.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

We need to go something crazy like 20-6 the rest of the way to put pressure on the Giants and Pads

Even then the Pads could go 16-11 and be tied. While they are in it and the fact that they have games against the teams in front of them helps, it is still a fairly long shot. But the fact that this team has done it twice in 3 years gives much hope.

by Roxfan24 on Sep 6, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

If the Padres win every home series and lose every road series

and given who’s on their remaining schedule this, or something like it, is a relatively likely outcome, they will finish 13-14, meaning the Rockies would have to go 17-9 to tie them.

Doing the same thing (win series at home, lose them on the road) with the Giants gives them a 12-13 record, but the problem is their schedule is a little easier with the Brewers and Cubs as their Central foes rather than the Reds and Cardinals like the Padres and Rockies have. Anything over 14-11 by them is going to make catching them extremely difficult, which is why I hope to see them get swept in at least one of their road series this week.

Btw, doing the same thing for the Rockies leaves us at 14-12, which wouldn’t be enough. We need to do well in our two four game series (win at least 3 against the Reds, come back with at least a split in St. Louis) and probably have a winning road trip in LA and Arizona if we really want to make this work.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

IAWTC

really. on all counts.

"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale

"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo

"Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug."~Mitch Williams

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Giants and Padres have 7 games left against each other

4 of them on SD and 3 in SF for the final 3 games of their seasons. SD has dominated the Giants but with SD coming back to earth, maybe we get lucky and they pretty much split those games, one team winning 3 and the other winning 4.

I’ve seen a lot of fans say they think the Rockies need to get 90 to 91 wins to earn the division crown. Thats 18 and 8 to get to 90 the rest of the way. That would mean the Padres would have to go 13 and 14 in their remaining 25 and the Giants would have to go 13 and 12 for them both to get to 89 and 73.

With the way the Padres rotation has looked it doesn’t seem far off for the padres to go 13 and 14 the rest of the way. The Giants have an easier schedule but if we need them to lose 12 more games, the Rockies must win at least 2 in the last home series against them. If the Padres win 4 of the 7 games against the Giants, thats 6 loses there. Then in their other 15 games we would need them to lose 6. Thats a lot that needs to happen, but when you look at it, it really wouldn’t be that strange.

by humaDONT on Sep 6, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

If the Rox want to control their destiny (as much as possible)

they’d better sweep the Giants.

otherwise they’ll have to count on a lot of help. not impossible, but not under much of their control either.

"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale

"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo

"Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug."~Mitch Williams

Chief Engineer of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Proud Member of the PR Gynocracy

by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah I would rather we just sweep the Giants too

But hopefully the Padres help us a little and win 3 or 4 of their remaining 7 games against the Giants. If that happens we probably could get by with winning 2 of the 3.

by humaDONT on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Unassailable logic

I’m just a control freak ;-)

"Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa." ~Bob Veale

"I hope this game isn't horrible. Because if it is, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see the Rockies win." ~5-yo

"Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug."~Mitch Williams

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean.

I just wanted to share that after looking at all 3 of SF, SD, and CO schedules its obvious we need some luck/magic but maybe not a ton of it. Just a strong finish.

by humaDONT on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

/crosses fingers that Rox Girl is right.

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by glaucophane on Sep 6, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wonder if we WILL get little ponies

Handed out as part of a Rockies campaign supporting CarGo for MVP. You’re a genius, RMN.

Also, Liquid Schwartz – GENIUS! Who’s the certified prince?

by Yokel on Sep 6, 2010 9:01 AM MDT reply actions  

I prefer purple tails

and I’m so glad to hear that I wasn’t the only person who thought of CarGo with the pony comment :-D

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

It was supposed to mean something else? : )

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by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

given that I'm not sold on the "little pony" thing yet (though it certainly fits till he gets a haircut)

I was wondering if it was :-D

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

ah, ok.

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

is it a more recent one?

I used to read a lot of Calvin and Hobbes, and I got nothin on this one… (could also be mom brain)

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

nice :-D

Thanks!

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Do you have a good calvin and Hobbes search engine?

I’d love to find one that I remember. Calvin’s mom is trying to get him out of bed on a winter morning, and he quips something like “I’m not getting up until it’s as warm out there as it is in here!”

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by RdRnnr on Sep 6, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Turns out I had the line exactly right! (Although I had the image wrong.)

Also, in case anyone else is using, please note that the published date is listed in European style-dd/mm/yy, not the American style of mm/dd/yy. Although there aren’t any extra "u"s in any of the words…

Anyway…now my wife has another idea for the next appropriate gifting occasion!

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by RdRnnr on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking about getting the print of that strip mounted and framed...

It really captures something about me (’cause I HATE getting out of a cozy bed in the morning) and our bedroom is already decorated with a fair amount of animation art.

The leatherboand collection might be on my list after the children and grown and out of the house!

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by RdRnnr on Sep 6, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I want a little bobblepony.

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by glaucophane on Sep 6, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

If I could marry an object,

It’d be the swing of Carlos Gonzalez.

by roxintober on Sep 6, 2010 9:31 AM MDT reply actions  

if you were a hot dog

and were starving, would you eat yourself?

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

its a simple question doctor

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

What's your favorite planet?

Mine’s the sun…it’s like the king of planets!

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by RdRnnr on Sep 6, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maria would ensure the answer is "no"

because she’d swoop in before any self-consumption could occur.

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by Paleface Destro on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

read the stephen king short story "survivor type"

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by squalene203 on Sep 6, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know i would.

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by Maria M on Sep 6, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

you made a wise choice my friend

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

but first

I would smother myself with mustard.

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by Maria M on Sep 6, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

So I thought since both our catchers seem to think that offense has been optional

that we should take encouragement from Olivo’s two hit game yesterday AND Iannetta’s bomb from the Philly game.

How’s that for ambiguity?

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 9:41 AM MDT reply actions  

CHOOSE YOUR SIDE

/throws SDcat09 under bus
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by Muzia on Sep 6, 2010 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I choose to be Switzerland

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

So you're not really neutral?

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by Russ Oates on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't say I was neutral

I said I choose Switzerland. Which means I have a sweet tooth and I like that weird form of French and German that the natives speak

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

hehe

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm actually very interested in this option

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

and I can't stand the German the swiss speak ;-p

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

CATCHER WAR 2010!

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by Russ Oates on Sep 6, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

seriously though

I dont think that choosing between mediocre catcher A or mediocre catcher B is going to affect the rest of this season one way or another

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Olivo is hiting .315 in his last 10 games.

And while his slump was discouraging he seems to be coming out of it. Iannetta’s good months seem to be the exception rather than the rule. And with a few recent exceptions Olivo has a better arm.

by Roxfan24 on Sep 6, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

The one check and balance on this is...

….it seems a lot of his hits the last few days have been of the BABIP and bloop variety (except for that one ball he smoked yesterday). In other words, possibly related more to random occurrences rather than actually breaking out.

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

But he had the opposite during his slump. part of evening out.

The biggest change is he IS putting the ball in play. During his slump he struck out at a prodigious rate

by Roxfan24 on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Gonna make a quick MVP point.

Over the last ten games, two teams have made greatly different strides on playoff contention. Here are two players from each of those teams. In my opinion, one of these players will win the MVP. Remember, these games should speak loudly about the MVP discussion.

Last ten games:

Player 1. 6-35, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 6BB, 6K (.171 AVG)

Player 2. 21-39, 5 HR, 11 RBI, 5BB, 6K (.538 AVG)

Can you guess player 1? He’s a superstar from a team that is sprinting away from the playoffs.

Can you guess player 2? He’s almost single handedly keeping a team in the playoff picture.

Point taken, hopefully.

by roxintober on Sep 6, 2010 9:54 AM MDT reply actions  

That's... impressive, when you put it that way.

and I’m sure CarGo would be insanely flattered at the comparison. :-)

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize that Pujols' last ten games were so...meh

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by Paleface Destro on Sep 6, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

OT: Happy labor everybody!

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 10:13 AM MDT reply actions  

labor day....geh

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

geh..

is right…nothing planned, which is sad cause I didn’t do anything for the 4th : (

Labor Day means…tomorrow I go back to school!
: /

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This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thats cool.

I’m celebrating by drinking emergenC in bed, coughing unhealthily, and preparing myself for Senior year.

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Garlic, PiP

seriously. Grab a clove, slice it up, and swallow it like pills. Do this at least once a day until you feel better, which shouldn’t take long. It’s both antiviral and antibacterial.

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, wow.

Thanks, and this is for coughs/colds?

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

it's for anything caused by a virus *or* bacteria

and yeah, that covers coughs/colds, unless you think you have emphysema or something ;-)

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Im jealous Matt

I dont have beer

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Want some emergenC?

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Got a few Ranger IPAs in the fridge

Like Ice Cube said, today is a good day

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Home Remedies

Hops are an antibiotic, and probably good for your immune system, too.

That’s medicine I can get behind.

by Yokel on Sep 6, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

They also increase milk supply if you're breastfeeding

win!

You just need to make sure to hydrate enough to counteract the dehydrating effect of the alcohol, because dehydration can decrease milk supply. Go fig.

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I need to know

what Tebow’s doing on Labor Day. Snap to it!

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by Russ Oates on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

heheheh pip

we started our study year three weeks ago. (It’s more work for me than for the kiddos, but worth it)

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know,

we are behind the times, but my mom (and the school I take classes at) doesn’t believe in starting before Labor Day.

Come to think of it, I’m probably more prepared to start than her ; )

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

as a homeschooling mom

I wouldn’t be surprised if you were ;-) (shhhhh! don’t tell anyone I said that, it might be breaking some kind of code…)

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

almost game timee

Rox lineup 2b ey cf fowler lf cargo ss Tulo 1b helton 3b mora lf smith c olivo p jimenez

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 10:18 AM MDT reply actions  

I’m glad I didn’t sleep in til 2. I guess.
Stupid sickness.
/cough cough

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 10:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

i hear ya

i feel like crap this morning too

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

ok - unfortunately this a legit question

but which of those LFs is playing in RF?

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

i assume Smith in RF

but TroyRenck has both as LF’s lol

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

this was my guess as well

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by Rox the Casbah on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think at this point starting either of them doesn't make

much of a difference….both are fully in the “meh” category now

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why does EY2 keep on getting starts?

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by MattBerger on Sep 6, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOLWHEELZ

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by Paleface Destro on Sep 6, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

it sucks that you can't steal 1st lol

he will get better with more and more starts though….i hope…

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Willy Taveras?

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by MattBerger on Sep 6, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hope they keep the top the same the whole series

(EY, Fowler, Cargo, Tulo) I love EY (hopefully gets on track at home) and Fowler at 1 and 2, especially at home.

by humaDONT on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

2nd base: barmes<EY<Nelson

I understand not doing it at the moment though since EY just has more MLB experience at the moment and we’re still in it. Nelson may have some growing pains to get through once he faces better pitchers.

by humaDONT on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

I still think that people are using a right (wanting to see Nelson)

to justify a wrong (using a too small sample to judge EY2).

Again, pitchers have adjusted to him, let’s give him a chance to learn and adjust back.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

yep people automatically think

Nelson is going to be that much better than everybody else at 2nd…let’s see what he does against tough pitching and the 2nd time they see him etc etc you can not assume he is better than EY, Barmes etc

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

let's see

Barmes is terrible
EYJ is terrible
Nelson is an unknown quantity

this is the point in the season where we throw things and see if they stick. If Nelson doesn’t stick, we try it all over again.

by Andrew Martin on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

we don't know if EY is actually terrible

what if he’s really good and all of a sudden is like yo, j/k guys and starts batting .290 like he did everywhere in the minors?

Honestly though, I really feel like EY is just trying too hard – like he did last year when he just got picked off all the time.

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

I mean

I have no problem with trying to catch lightning in a bottle and Nelson going all Shane Spencer for us. But I still really have no idea what to make of EY. His playing time has been sporadic and he was injured the bulk of the season. Also, he really seems like the man…

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

EY hasn't been around like enough

to call him terrible lol

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

EY is still an experiment developing

play whoever has the hot bat and solid defense, we need to make playoffs! The smallest mistake counts. Yesterday Rockies had lots of double plays, I don’t think that necessarily happens with EY Develop in April, win in Sept

by indianrox on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

well if you want solid defense

then no way is Nelson the man…he has how many errors in triple A…20? lol

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Let's see:

Barmes: 2500 career PA’s. Yeah, he’s terrible.
EYJ :183 career PA’s. Yeah, he’s absolutely a known quantity. Absolutely.
Nelson: 7 PA’s. So I take it that a quantity becomes known for you at 150 PA’s? What did Carlos Gonzalez’s first 150 PA’s look like?

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

are you being overreactive?

I think you are

Right now, EYJ is incredibly cold. The team needs to be incredibly hot for this thing to work. I have a lot of hope that he’ll make it – long term. He’s not doing it right now.

by Andrew Martin on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

But if it doesn't it isn't because of EY

And the default is Barmes or Herrera not Nelson

by Roxfan24 on Sep 6, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Now is the time for veterans

don’t care if Barmes can’t hit a lick, he’s been there done that and won’t fall apart over nerves. He’s given us some pretty great situational hitting in tense games. Let the youngsters watch and learn

by indianrox on Sep 6, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

For every good situational hit

hes probably struck out on a down and away slider with men on two times

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Or popped out

It’s sad when I get excited if the ball leaves the IF

by Roxfan24 on Sep 6, 2010 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

but saved runs with double plays and great range

He’s solid and can pump up for the great hit. Live with it. I’ll take runs saved and let the other guys score. Harder to win playing catch up than keeping a score close

by indianrox on Sep 6, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

In a sample thats

certainly too small to be meaningful, Eric Young has actually performed quite well defensively.

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Which assumption is more valid though?

That EYJ will improve to closer to what we’ve seen from him in the minors or that Nelson will respond immediately when put in a starting lineup in the middle of a pennant chase?

To me, both are equally sketchy as you’re trying to predict the phase and duration of “hot” and “cold” for either. In that event, I’d probably prefer to go with the guy I think will do best (again Nelson) but I know how the MLB works and the second best option is sticking with Young to let him get through the slump.

by Rox Girl on Sep 6, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

EYJ was brought up to produce runs but

right now that isn’t happening, don’t know why, maybe he will be that guy someday. Someday is now for the playoffs, so go with solid defense to make the playoffs, play EYJ in situations only like pinchhit or run, and stickw ith Barmes

by indianrox on Sep 6, 2010 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks

it should be something like Fowler, Cargo, and Tulo just so both those two get more AB’s?

I dont really see us having either a good leadoff hitter or a good number two hitter aside from Fowler…

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:02 AM MDT reply actions  

or maybe flip Cargo and Tulo

since Cargo likes hitting home runs so much…

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

as long as

I don’t start seeing Fowler,Barmes,Cargo,Tulo

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

he has been solid all year

when batting 2nd…over .333 avg

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Cargo's brother is in Coors

according to Renck…2nd time ever in the states….Cargo you must now hit 3 homers today for him

time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 6, 2010 11:07 AM MDT reply actions  

and tomorrow.

I still believe...
This is R year!

by prettyinpurple on Sep 6, 2010 11:14 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Are they looking to sign him?

Because I’m on board with the all-CarGo team idea!

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by RdRnnr on Sep 6, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Time for wins, and on that thought

Give Spilly more time. He’s hitting, seeing the well, his stats are good against right handers too. We need every bit of extra hitting points we can get and Smith sucks right now.

by indianrox on Sep 6, 2010 11:08 AM MDT reply actions  

wait

how did the cops know that internal affairs was setting them up?

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by Resolution on Sep 6, 2010 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

just finished watching last nights game

any word on tulo availability? he looked like he tweeked that groin on his non-slide thingee he did as he scored

The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!

by El Paso Jeff on Sep 6, 2010 11:34 AM MDT reply actions  

He actually got spiked in the leg by Hundley

He said he was ok after the game. He even had another AB after the spike.

by humaDONT on Sep 6, 2010 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

OT. Love Gael Monfils

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by SDcat09 on Sep 6, 2010 11:49 AM MDT reply actions  

Make mine Nadal

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Whats up with Venus

and her weird dress as of late

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by Maria M on Sep 6, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

she needs some extra yards on her curtain

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes. yes she does.

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by Maria M on Sep 6, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mora's been HUGE stepping up for Stewart.

Kept us in the race. Definitely seems undervalued (IMO)

by CentralCaliRox on Sep 6, 2010 11:57 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm in agreement with your above sentiment

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by jpage78 on Sep 6, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love having hope.

It’s what makes me sleep peacefully at night.

GO ROCKIES!!

by CentralCaliRox on Sep 6, 2010 12:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Squeeze. Ugh.

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