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Baseball Prospectus Releases List of Top Rockies Prospects

If you like prospects, this is your week.  Baseball America will release their annual prospect ranking for the Rockies tomorrow, and Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus released his prospect list early this morning.  The article is for subscribers, but the top 20 list is visible without a subscription.

Goldstein's overview was certainly glowing of the system, which is buoyed by the #1 ranked draft in 2009 and #4 ranked draft in 2010 (as ranked by Baseball America) in addition to the ever strong Latin pipeline.

It's a well-rounded, solid system. The only two weaknesses are a lack of up-the-middle talent and health issues... In the always competitive National League West, the Rockies have the best combination of prospects and young talent to ensure they'll consistently be toward the top of the standings. This is an impressive collection.

Obviously, those are words Rockies fans would like to hear.  Below is Goldstein's top 20 list as compared to the most recent rankings by the Purple Row community in September.

Baseball Prospectus

Purple Row

1. Tyler Matzek, LHP ☆☆☆☆☆ 1. Tyler Matzek, LHP
2. Wilin Rosario, C  ☆☆☆☆☆ 2. Wilin Rosario, C
3. Nolan Arenado, 3B  ☆☆☆ 3. Christian Friedrich, LHP
4. Christian Friedrich, LHP ☆☆☆ 4. Nolan Arenado, 3B
5. Kyle Parker, OF  ☆☆☆ 5. Chris Nelson, SS/2B
6. Peter Tago, RHP  ☆☆☆ 6. Peter Tago, RHP
7. Charles Blackmon, OF  ☆☆☆ 7. Charlie Blackmon, OF
8. Rex Brothers, LHP  ☆☆☆ 8. Chad Bettis, RHP
9. Chad Bettis, RHP☆☆☆ 9. Kyle Parker, OF
10. Christhian Adames, SS  ☆☆ 10. Rafael Ortega, OF
11. Rafael Ortega, OF  ☆☆ 11. Hector Gomez, SS
12. Will Swanner, C  12. Rex Brothers, LHP
13. Juan Nicasio, RHP 13. Juan Nicasio, RHP
14. Jordan Pacheco, C  14. Jordan Pacheco, C
15. Albert Campos, RHP  15. Corey Dickerson, OF
16. Casey Weathers, RHP 16. Tim Wheeler, OF
17. Russell Wilson, 2B 17. Will Swanner, C
18. Hector Gomez, SS 18. Casey Weathers, RHP
19. Mike McKenry, C 19. Mike McKenry, C
20. Chris Nelson, IF 20. Albert Campos, RHP

The lists are actually remarkably similar, as 18 names appear on both lists.  The four players not agreed upon were Casper SS Christian Adames and Tri-City 2B Russell Wilson on the BP list, and Casper OF Corey Dickerson and Modesto OF Tim Wheeler from the PuRPs list.

The most obvious trend is that BP values potential much more than Purple Row.  That is not surprising, as most our voters tend to value names they are more familiar with and/or are closer to the big leagues.  This is particularly evident in the level of disagreement on Chris Nelson's ranking.  I'll divulge a sampling of Goldstein's specific insider info after the jump.

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The following content is taken from the subscriber only section of the piece.  I am only sharing a small amount.

Wilin Rosario

"He could be an All-Star catcher with above-average offense and defense...the rare catcher you actually want in your lineup...showcases plus power without sacrificing too much in terms of contact..Defensively, he's a gem."  Goldstein praises almost every area of Rosario's game, and his biggest weaknesses (difficulty with breaking pitches and footspeed) could either develop (he's still just 21) or is virtually immaterial for a catcher.  We have been operating under a Miguel Olivo comp, but Goldstein and his scouts clearly see a brighter future than that.

 

Nolan Arenado

"Arenado is the best pure hitter in the system, with plenty of bat speed and outstanding hands...an impatient hitter whose tremendous plate coverage works against him at times."  Goldstein also concludes that Arenado could be an every day MLB third baseman with passable defense.

 

Christian Friedrich

"He could be an above-average big-league starter, but that's hardly a lock. Relief work is a real possibility...Health will be more important than numbers for Friedrich in 2011." While his velocity fell in 2010, Goldstein attributes that to injury and notes his stuff remains very good for a lefty.

 

Kyle Parker

"He could be an everyday corner outfielder...plus to plus-plus raw power to all fields...solid hitting skills with a very good approach at the plate."  There isn't much to Parker's scouting report we don't already know, as he hasn't added to his baseball resume since coming to the Rockies.

 

His scouting report liked Charles Blackmon as a potential .270-.290 hitter with 20 steals and average power.   He implied projections for Rex Brothers as a closer were too optimistic given his control issues but that he remains a strong back end reliever.  Rafael Ortega projects into double digit home runs and at least twenty steals.

 

The last one I wanted to touch on was Christian Adames, whom Purple Row completely ignored.  He got a lot of love on Goldstein's list and is sure to get the same from Baseball America and other scouting resources.  Adames is a switch hitting shortstop with no power and very little currently in the form of projectible offense.  Goldstein even claims "he'll need to develop some strength to prevent pitchers from simply knocking the bat of his hands."  But he already has very special skills defensively and could be a real asset at shortstop, so any progression at all with the bat could make him a valuable big leaguer.

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Chris Nelson can be very good

if just given the chance!

I don’t care if everybody else absolutely loves Johnny Herrera, but if I have to watch a full season of watching Herrera over Nelson I am going to puke.

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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2011 10:50 AM MST reply actions  

I'm excited about our potential at 2B this season..

between minor leaguer’s EY, Herrera, Nelson (and I’m going to add Gomez) and acquisition Lopez there’s a lot of differing types of talent in the mix. It would be nice if we could combine all of them to create the ultimate killing machine secondbaseman, but we’ll have to see which cream rises to the top.

@charliedrysdale

by Charlie77 on Jan 18, 2011 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

with four catchers, four MI's and two CF's on the list, and only three corners,

I think Goldstein would have phrased it better by saying that the Rockies lack of health is especially hitting their up the middle talent, not that they’re not deep there.

by Rox Girl on Jan 18, 2011 11:11 AM MST reply actions  

I wrote this at 130, and in my deliriousness, I didn't catch that

But it is rather strange.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2011 1:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Got to say

I’m not sure what to make of Wilson right now. He played decent in his very short debut, but nothing amazing. And I have no idea if he will pursue football or baseball right now. With Parker, baseball is almost a certainty, with Wilson, it’s a tossup.

by mkorpal on Jan 18, 2011 11:20 AM MST reply actions  

Not sure Wilson knows either.

He didn’t put in for the NFL draft but he may or may not return to NC State (Kid, ask Parker about those ribs!) for football this Fall. He’s coming back for year two of minor league ball so that may be telling how his future lines up.

Go Bruce!

by Since1993 on Jan 18, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes and no...

That CBA thing shouldn’t get ugly but will. I still think there’s too much money sitting there to logically trigger a lockout – the NBA is a whole ‘nother Oprah. However, so many teams are in need of a quarterback that Wilson could sneak up into the mid-2nd round. If he really dreams of playing in the NFL, this may be a better year than next year when there could be a hard sort of cap in place. Slid a bit OT, sorry. Seems if Goldstein likes him, I’m more interested to see how Wilson plays this summer. That also might help him figure out where he’s going. Must be nice, eh?

Go Bruce!

by Since1993 on Jan 18, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

There is no way

Russell Wilson is a second round talent.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2011 6:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, hey.

Congrats on the MHH gig!

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by Russ Oates on Jan 18, 2011 7:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah, thank you!

I’m excited for it.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2011 11:05 PM MST up reply actions  

It was just nice to read a Kevin Goldstein column that didn’t broadside Ian Stewart. The only bit about him was at the end, and totally fair.

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by Franchise26 on Jan 18, 2011 12:06 PM MST reply actions  

Adames wasn't totally ignored

I praised his fielding and ability to get the ball in play with runners on several times this past season and I recall seeing his name pop up in other peoples reviews of the Ghosts a couple times this past year as well. He was easily one of my 3 favorite players to watch on the Ghosts this past season.

Wyoming baseball --- GO GHOSTS!

by Kris Hansen on Jan 18, 2011 1:06 PM MST reply actions  

I agree with what you said

but I think Fish is trying to say is that people didn’t consider voting for him as a PURP, unlike Goldstein’s list which has him as a Top 10 prospect in the organization.

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by jrockies on Jan 18, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

in terms of the PuRPs lists, he was mostly ignored

He might have even had less votes than Scott Beerer. He deserved more, but I still think he’ll be overrated in scouting circles for his defense, as he seems to be in the vein of Jonny Herrera.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2011 1:20 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

IAWTC

He’s intriguing because he’s a switch hitter, a bonus baby and there’s a hope of offensive projection, but at the moment, he figures to be less of a valuable MLB asset than Thomas Field, who combines quality defense, patience and some pop, but is just a bit older than we’d like to see.

by Rox Girl on Jan 18, 2011 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Another great field but no hit SS?

The minors/majors is full of them. The Rox just got rid of one of the best in that category, Clint Barmes, who was a great guy to boot.

by RoxSox on Jan 18, 2011 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I also agree here.

Adames stands out to pundits like Goldstein because he’s so young, but the Rockies already have a lot of all glove guys in the system (Joey Wong and Josh Rutledge, for instance) and as you point out with Barmes, have a good history with them to boot.

I’d rank Adames as our sixth best SS right now, behind those two as well as Gomez, Nelson and Field, and while his ceiling might be higher than Wong’s, it’s likely not any or much higher than any of the others.

by Rox Girl on Jan 18, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Goldstein really missed the boat on Jhoulys Chacin.

Last year he rated him as a three star, fourth on the prospect list and 9th on the Top Ten Talents under 25. This year he has him third on the Top 10 Talents under 25, but puts in a left handed compliment.

It is interesting to look at where we are now versus last year, and especially on the Top 10 under 25, we are better. The biggest drop or disappointment was Christian Friedrich. Last year Goldstein was much higher on Friedrich, as I am sure many were.

I really look forward to Kevin Goldstein’s article. It is one of my high-lites of the off season.

by brian8065 on Jan 18, 2011 2:21 PM MST reply actions  

I wouldn't necessarily say Goldstein missed on Chacin

Pitching prospects don’t usually show up in the big leagues with more velocity and strikeouts than ever in the minors. Chacin just took a huge step forward. He started that in 2009 a bit, but I didn’t expect chacin’s 2010 either.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2011 3:18 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

These lists beg the questions:

What are we going to do about first base? Convert somebody, trade for somebody, or try to sign a FA? It keeps getting more painful to ask, until we get one.

I guess the flip side is the league is really deep in this talent, so we may be able to rob one from another system, but it is sort of a glaring hole at this point.

-Joe

by jcn7vc on Jan 18, 2011 2:53 PM MST reply actions  

Any one of the above?

I don’t think the Rockies have worried about this because 1B is traditionally a pretty easy position to fill quickly. The 2013 FA list will include expensive guys like Mike Napoli and likely cheap guys like Aubrey Huff. A couple of players (Daric Barton, for one) could be available via trade if there’s not an internal option.

by Rox Girl on Jan 18, 2011 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd like to see someone like Arenado convert...

Basically, my hope is that Stewie can assuage all our concerns with a breakout 2011, allowing the Rox to move Arenado to 1b. Figure Arenado spends 1-2 years or so in the minors @ 1b, and that would be right around the time Helton hangs up the glove and gets into coaching.

But this is pure fantasyland thinking….

by attackparrot on Jan 18, 2011 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

The only problem I have with this scenario is that if Stewart is that good, there may be little chance we'll be able to afford him with Tulo, Cargo and Ubaldo

He enters FA after the 2014 season and if we want to trade him for top value, it would have to be done by the winter of 2013, which just happens to coincide exactly with when Todd’s contract expires, not to mention, JDLR’s and Hammel’s. I think we might need a 3B then just as much as we do a 1B. Arenado would hopefully be a decent replacement at third and Stewart could be used in trade to fill what could be a rotation gap if prospects don’t develop. Of course, the rosy scenario with Stewart might also include a WS trophy or two, which would likely include a significant boost in revenue, which could make Ian affordable.

by Rox Girl on Jan 18, 2011 4:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I see your point...

I guess that has more to do with the lack of depth at the corner IF position, and not wanting to simply shift the problem from 1b to 3b…

Would it make sense to possibly transition someone from one of our deeper positions to 1b?

So, looking at our OF right now, CarGo is etched in stone (barring injury) for the foreseeable future. If Dex can be a solid major league CF, then we really have 1 OF position to fill over the next 5-10 years. So, we have Blackmon, Wheeler, Parker and Ortega coming up through our system in that same time period. Hopefully more than one will pan out, thus filling the LF and 1b positions? Is this realistic?

Should I just simply let go of my fascination of making prospects change positions?!

by attackparrot on Jan 18, 2011 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Keep Arenado at 3rd for now

A transition to 1B wouldn’t be hard if it is needed.

by mkorpal on Jan 18, 2011 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Two words:

Y’all are already way ahead of me here, right?

Yonder Alonso.

Go Bruce!

by Since1993 on Jan 18, 2011 5:23 PM MST up reply actions  

So whats the deal with Matzek?

Do we plan on seeing this guy anytime soon? I mean, he is the number one rated prospect on our list right now.

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by GoldenNugget on Jan 18, 2011 6:10 PM MST reply actions  

And he's 20 years old.

So the answer is no. In a few years. He’ll be starting 2011 in A ball.

I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P

by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2011 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Aaaahhh

thanks

Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
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by GoldenNugget on Jan 18, 2011 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Modesto, though

you know, last week something called Ben Glicksman would have you believe he’ll be in the Springs to start 2011.

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by Russ Oates on Jan 18, 2011 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

ya i do recall

I knew better than that and figured he would be high A but just wanted to ask.

by kjj0127 on Jan 18, 2011 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

He's number one because he has the most clear potential, but his ETA is still 2014

He still needs to develop his changeup and improve his control quite a bit. But he has nasty stuff from the left side.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2011 6:16 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He won't be. The first challenge with Matzek was refining his mechanics so he learned to pace himself and adjust physically to the pressures of professional baseball.

I’m not certain of the specifics, but there was concern that Matzek’s delivery mechanics would tire him out too fast at the professional level. Plus, they were workshopping his pitches from the ground up, I believe. In other words, Matzek’s first year was essentially designed to make him the pitcher he will have to be to advance. He’s not on the fast track as of now. We’ll take our time with him to make sure he’s found himself, so to speak.

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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

This is another nice thing about having Jimenez, Chacin, and JDLR (all three of them) under control for at least a couple more seasons

We can let Matzek develop for as long as we want. We don’t NEED him for a few more years.

73 more days until the Rockies Home Opener!!!!!!!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2011 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

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