The Complete Fall 2011 PuRPs List
After revealing the PuRPs list five players at a time in six installments, it's time to wrap up the fall list by putting it all out at once. So without further ado, here is the full Fall 2011 Purple Row community prospect list:
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Rank |
Player |
Points |
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1 |
Drew Pomeranz |
1191 |
|
2 |
Nolan Arenado |
1156 |
|
3 |
Wilin Rosario |
1057 |
|
4 |
Chad Bettis |
1022 |
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5 |
Tyler Matzek |
1000 |
|
6 |
Alex White |
959 |
|
7 |
Kyle Parker |
923 |
|
8 |
Tim Wheeler |
922 |
|
9 |
Josh Rutledge |
794 |
|
10 |
Charlie Blackmon |
747 |
|
11 |
Rosell Herrera |
724 |
|
12 |
Trevor Story |
718 |
|
13 |
Edwar Cabrera |
707 |
|
14 |
Tyler Anderson |
692 |
|
15 |
Rafael Ortega |
609 |
|
16 |
Peter Tago |
599 |
|
17 |
Christian Friedrich |
593 |
|
18 |
Joe Gardner |
443 |
|
19 |
Corey Dickerson |
431 |
|
20 |
Thomas Field |
388 |
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21 |
Will Swanner |
376 |
|
22 |
Kent Matthes |
365 |
|
23 |
Albert Campos |
282 |
|
24 |
Jordan Pacheco |
280 |
|
25 |
Cristhian Adames |
205 |
|
26 |
Ben Paulsen |
140 |
|
27 |
Joshua Slaats |
123 |
|
28 |
David Kandilas |
102 |
|
29 |
Jayson Aquino |
101 |
|
30 |
Hector Gomez |
95 |
40 ballots were cast in this edition of the PuRPs poll, with 30 points being granted for a first place vote, 29 for second, etc. Until a player was named on 13 ballots, his vote totals were modified on a sliding scale to avoid an individual ballot having too much say over the community forecast -- but none of the above players had that problem, as all thirty players on the PuRPs list were named on at least 14 ballots.
Some commentary follows after the fold.
It was a two horse race for first place in this edition of the PuRPs poll, between the top pitching and position prospects in the system. Drew Pomeranz took the top slot with 31 of the 40 first place votes, while Nolan Arenado was a pretty close second, with 8 first place votes. Behind those two, 3-5 were a clear tier, as were 6-8, 9-17, and 18-22 (all of which were named on at least 36 ballots). Looking back on past PuRPs lists, it certainly appears that Colorado's farm system is deeper than the last few editions, with the added bonus of potential star power at the top.
- In all, 9 players were on every ballot, 64 players received at least one vote for this PuRPs list, 52 got mentioned on multiple ballots, 34 were named on at least 13 ballots (and therefore were unmodified), and 24 were named on at least 30 ballots, showing that the top 80% of the list was more or less agreed upon by the community, if not necessarily the order. Here is a link to the polling thread.
- From last Spring's PuRPs list, three players were ineligible due to playing time -- Juan Nicasio (2), Rex Brothers (8), and Chris Nelson (13), while Bruce Billings (22) was traded during the season for Mark Ellis. In addition to those four players, five additional members of the last PuRPs list were bumped off of this edition: Casey Weathers (20), Eliezer Mesa (23), Cole Garner (26), Edgmer Escalona (29), and Mike Zuanich (30).
- Those nine departures made plenty of room for members of the 2011 draft class (Trevor Story at 12, Tyler Anderson at 14), Latin America (Rosell Herrera at 11, Jayson Aquino at 29), US based clubs (Kent Matthes at 22, David Kandilas at 28), and most importantly, the players from the Ubaldo Jimenez trade (Pomeranz at 1, Alex White at 6, Joe Gardner at 18). Of the four new players who were in Colorado's system when the last poll took place, Herrera made the highest debut at 11.
Here are the five players who came closest to inclusion on the Fall 2011 PuRPs List:
35. Dan Houston (47.7 points, 10 ballots), 2008 7th round, RHP at Tulsa (will be 25 Opening Day)
34. Mike Zuanich (70 points points, 14 ballots), 2008 28th round, 1B at Modesto/Tulsa (25)
33. Sam Mende (70 points, 15 ballots), 2011 31st round, SS/3B at Casper/Tri-City (22)
32. Dillon Thomas (77 points, 17 ballots), 2011 4th round, OF at Casper (19)
31. Edgmer Escalona (85 points, 16 ballots), 2004 FA (VZ), RHP at Colorado Springs/Rockies (22)
It's highly likely that of those 5 players only Escalona (who has an inside track at a bullpen spot in 2012) ever contributes at the major league level, but if there were a player to watch among the five in terms of a breakout season, it would be Dillon Thomas -- a toolsy young OF prospect who may repeat in a short season league in 2012. Both Houston and Zuanich are Rule 5 Draft eligible this off-season and are unlikely to be protected.
Breaking the list down by position, there are 12 pitchers (all of them starters, six are lefties, six are righties), 7 outfielders (2-4 of which could play CF), 6 middle infielders, 3 catchers, and 2 corner infielders. The position to watch next season for the minor league system is at middle infield, where most of those players have the ability to be stars at the Major League level.
It looks like there will be quite a wave of top prospects that will be MLB ready all in the next year or two, so it won't be long before we start seeing some of these guys producing for the Rockies. By my count, Colorado should have 8 of the top 10 ready for a big league call-up in 2012 or 2013, with 6-7 of the lower prospects on the list also making a MLB impact.
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2012 is going to be fascinating on all fronts.
Offseason market, spring training competitions, completely new pitching staff, health of DLR and Nicasio, plenty of prospects making their debuts, and fairly high draft position.
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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Maybe I just underestimate these things
but I’m pretty confident JDLR and Nicasio will come back and be decent this season, albeit with some rust…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
DLR - yes.
Nicasio, I wouldn’t be so sure about. I’m optimistic about him being back by 2013. I mean, the dude broke his neck.
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Oct 25, 2011 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Won't be that long, I really doubt it
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Oct 25, 2011 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm still working off the idea
that there isn’t even a timeline for him to play catch yet…
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Oct 25, 2011 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Mike Zuanich
Can somebody help me understand why Mike Zuanich is considered to be such a non-prospect? (I don’t at all mean that in a snarky/confrontational way.)
To be clear: I totally understand the fact that has been a little old at every level and that he’s been playing against younger competition. I don’t at all discount that the importance of that. And I understand that his strikeout rate suggests that he won’t be able to maintain this level of production as he advances to higher levels. I’m not saying the guy should be a top-10 PURP. It just seems like – as misleading as the big counting stats can be – his overall production should have earned him quicker promotions over the years.
But is there something else I’m missing? Something that doesn’t show up in the box scores? How high does the dude need to push his OPS to overcome the age/strikeout demerits? Does anyone else wonder if maybe he’s being held back by the lack of pedigree/buzz associated with his low draft position?
Help me please! ;-)
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
You pretty much made the case right there.
And if we are being completely honest, being 25 and in Modesto is more than just “a little old” for the level. It’s several years old for the level. Big difference.
If he continues to produce, he’ll get his chance in the Majors. Doesn’t make him a prospect though…
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First base is a tough place to be a prospect
Zuanich has good numbers, but he should at his age at those levels. Compare to Braves’ MiLB Player of the Year Joe Terdoslavich. Adjusting for age makes them comparable, or with Zuanich trailing. And here’s what Kevin Goldstein said today about Terdoslavich:
the doom of most first-base prospects; simply being good isn’t enough. Yes, he can hit, but he doesn’t have the kind of power normally associated with the position, he doesn’t walk much, and as good as his season was in the Carolina League, he’s actually a year older than Freddie Freeman. You need to be almost perfect to be a good first-base prospect.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2011 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree 25 is more than a "little old" for A+, but...
… to be fair, he didn’t turn 25 until right after he got promoted to Tulsa. However, I get that that’s splitting hairs and doesn’t change the overall point: dude should be killing it given his age vs. competition. 25 at Tulsa is too old, too.
But along those lines, why haven’t the Rockies moved him level-to-level more quickly over the years? Other than his brief stint at Casper right at the beginning of his career, Zuanich hasn’t just been doing ok, he’s been putting up some huge numbers. Why haven’t the Rockies been more motiviated to challenge him? More anxious to get him caught up to age-appropriate competition to see if that production holds up? Is it just the strikeout rate? Or something else? Some fundamental flaw in his game that doesn’t show up in the stat sheet?
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Actually, they have been moving him one level per year
The difference is that the promotion comes midseason, not at the end of the season. More or less.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
That's true, but shouldn't he have been moved more quickly than that?
It seems like he did well enough at both of his first two mid-season promotions to earn the right to start at the next level up at the beginning of the following season. After his mid-season promotion to Ashville, he posted an OPS over 1.000. After his mid-season promotion to Modesto the next year, he posted an OPS of .864. Not otherworldly, I admit. But in both cases, even the later one, given his age, it seems like it should have been enough to go ahead and jump him.
In other words, why didn’t Rockies start him A+ in 2010, his 23-year-old year, and/or at AA at the beginnig of this last year? Maybe he ends up over his head, maybe not – but what’s the benefit to the Rockies of NOT throwing him out there against more age-appropriate competition? What do they really learn about him as a prospect (or non-prospect as the case might be) by holding him back? What’s to lose? Guys that come in as college-age players get advanced on an accelerated schedule all the time. Why not Zuanich? Because he was a 28th round pick?
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Which isn't saying too much
but when age is the tiebreaker…
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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Nolan Arenado just hit a HR
RBI in 11 of 14 games.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 PM MDT reply actions
Can we just call him up right now..
And DFA Ian Stewart?
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by Charlie77 on Oct 25, 2011 4:33 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
From #16 down, who is going to surprise everyone next year?
There’s always a couple of sleepers who start low and the have amazing years to catch our attention; (see Edwar Cabrera and Josh Rutledge). Who do you predict will be that sleeper next season?
I pick David Kandilas and Kent Matthes.
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by Charlie77 on Oct 25, 2011 4:31 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I'll go Adames, Campos, Gardner
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2011 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions
LOOOVE the sig.
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Oct 25, 2011 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Which?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2011 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions
The Nick Hornby/Ben Folds line
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Oct 25, 2011 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions
It's a good-un
I relate to both sides.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2011 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Also, you somehow just found me on Facebook
Which is creepy AND awesome. I am also going to the Mute Math concert and CAN’T. EFFING. WAIT.
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Oct 25, 2011 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Mine is Campos as well
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Oct 25, 2011 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I had a dream last night that Campos had TJ surgery :-/
not sure what this says about me…
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I want to add Scahill too. He is in the AFL, throwing 97mph, just had a solid season in AA and didn’t make the top 35.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 26, 2011 6:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He was definitely under the radar.
He’s had a solid AFL with 6 K’s in 5 innings, only 1 walk.
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He made my list. Love me some Scahill.
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I updated the Top 30 PuRPs widget
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2011 5:34 PM MDT reply actions
Of the Purps that were at Casper last year
how many might repeat that level for at least part of this year?
My thoroughly uneducated opinion says Thomas is the best bet, and Mende a possibility. Herrera, Story and Swanner I assume are locks to move up, and I would think Kandilas would be about done at that level too… Am I misjudging anybody?
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by CentralCaliRox on Oct 25, 2011 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I guess I could just read what Aberle writes
but the last time I tried that we lost like 3923905 games in a row on Sunday….
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by Junction Rox on Oct 25, 2011 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Mende was already promoted to Tri Cities during the season..
He could get a jump to Modesto beacause of his age. He’s a tough player who played through a shattered jaw injury in college.
Carl Thomore will probably repeat, but keep your eye on him. He has a lot of talent.
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by Charlie77 on Oct 26, 2011 12:56 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
certainly not Mende
Thomas and Thomore I’m sure will. They’ll have a pretty strong infusion from the DSL I would think too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 26, 2011 7:42 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He was number 36 with 40.8 points over 10 ballots
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I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Oct 25, 2011 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions
He was a top prospect until..
he shattered his ankle his junior year. He reminds me of a righthanded Brad Hawpe

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